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You know, there is this there's this really pervasive

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myth in television. And honestly, I think in

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business in general. Oh, the idea that quality

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just instantly finds an audience. Exactly. Yeah.

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We like to believe that if you build a better

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mousetrap or in this case, if you write a smarter

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joke, the world is just going to beat a pass

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to your door immediately. Right. The cream rises

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to the top theory. It's a comforting thought,

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you know, a true meritocracy. If you're good,

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you win. Yeah. But then you look at the actual

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data. You look at the history books and you find

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these anomalies that completely shatter that

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worldview. Oh, absolutely. And for this deep

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dive, we're looking at perhaps the most famous

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anomaly in sitcom history. We're looking at a

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show that by all conventional metrics of 1983

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should have been dead. Buried and totally forgotten

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before it ever got a second chance. Dead, buried

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and largely unwatched. We are, of course, talking

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about Cheers season two. And it's interesting

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you frame it that way, because when we look at

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the source material for this deep dive, specifically

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the Wikipedia article covering the production

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history between September 1983 and May 1984,

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it's not just a story about a funny show finding

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its legs. No, not at all. It's really a case

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study in corporate patients. Yeah. Which is honestly

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something we rarely see anymore in media. It's

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the miracle renewal. That's the headline everyone

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knows. But I really want to peel back the layers

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on why that miracle happened. Yeah, let's get

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into it. Because we are just talking about a

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show avoiding cancellation. We are talking about

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a major cultural pivot point. We're going back

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to a time when Ronald Reagan is in the White

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House. The Internet is basically just a rumor

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in some computer lab somewhere. And NBC is well,

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NBC is in serious trouble. Trouble is putting

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it lightly. NBC was the basement network at the

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time. They were really struggling. So our mission

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today for you listening is to dissect this pivot.

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We're going to look at how Cheers went from the

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absolute bottom of the Nielsen ratings to the

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top tier in just a single season. A massive jump.

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And we're going to unpack the evolution of Sam

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and Diane. Because looking at the notes, season

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two is really where that dynamic stops being,

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I don't know, cute and starts getting psychologically

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complex and honestly a little dark. And toxic,

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let's be honest. Looking at it through a modern

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lens, it's a very messy relationship. It's definitely

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not a fairy tale. Incredibly messy. We'll get

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to the nose -pinching violence later. And of

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course, we have to talk about the literal fire.

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The fire at Paramount, that is such a wild story.

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A massive fire that destroyed sound stages, but

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somehow completely missed the bar. We have a

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lot to cover. But let's start with the numbers,

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because I was looking at the starting position

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for season two, and it is bleak. It's not just

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bad. It's pack your bags bad. It's abysmal. To

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set the stage for you, we are looking at September

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29th, 1983. Season one has just wrapped up. Now,

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critically, the show is a total darling. It just

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swept the Emmys. Literally four days before the

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season two premiere. Right. They win five Emmys,

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including Outstanding Comedy Series. So the industry

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is basically screaming, this is the best thing

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on TV. The critics are writing these glowing

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love letters. Right. But the American public,

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they are screaming, what is this? Or rather,

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they aren't screaming anything because they aren't

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watching at all. The show finished the previous

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season dead last among renewed shows. It was

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ranked 74th out of 77 shows on television. 74th?

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That is a ghost town. Oh, completely. In today's

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climate, or really even in the 90s climate, that

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show is canceled before the wrap party. You do

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not get a season two with those numbers. You

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barely get a back nine of season one. So this

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is where I want to push on the narrative just

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a little bit. The standard story is that NBC

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executives, you know, Grant Tinker and Brennan

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Tartikoff, were these benevolent geniuses who

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saw the artistic value of Cheers and kept it

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alive out of the goodness of their hearts. Right.

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The artistic champions. But looking at the context

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of NBC's lineup in 1983. Did they actually have

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a choice? That's the cynical take, but it's probably

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the accurate one. You have to remember, NDC in

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the early 80s was the distant third network.

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CBS and ABC were just crushing them. They didn't

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have a bench of hits waiting to take Cheers'

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place. If they canceled it, what were they going

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to air? Another failed melodrama, another variety

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show that nobody wanted. Right. Sometimes retention

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is just a lack of better options. It's not that

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they loved Cheers so much. It's that the alternative

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was literal dead air or a test pattern. Exactly.

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They needed content. But then something unprecedented

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happens between season one and season two. The

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sources refer to it as the summer of reruns.

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And this is really the business lesson of the

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whole era. Explain this to me. Because today

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for us with streaming, reruns basically just

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means I forgot to pause Netflix or I'm engaging

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in some comfort viewing. But in 1983, the summer

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rerun cycle was usually a complete dead zone,

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wasn't it? It was just garbage time. Completely

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dead. Usually networks would just burn off failed

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pilots or air, really generic content because

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they assumed everybody was outside and nobody

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was watching television. But NBC made a strategic

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decision. They kept Shears in the slot. They

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aired the pilot again. They aired the key episodes.

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They basically forced the audience to look at

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it. And because the competition was also in rerun

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mode, the barrier to entry was lower for new

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viewers. It's the scarcity of attention principle.

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People were flipping channels and remember physically

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walking up to the TV to turn the dial and they

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stumbled onto the show. Yeah. And because Cheers

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is serialized, you really need to know the characters

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to get the inside jokes. That repetition allowed

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people to catch up without the pressure of a

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brand new season moving too fast for them. The

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data really backs this up. Right. By mid 1983,

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during the supposedly dead summer months, the

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reruns started cracking the top 20. That is a

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massive leap from 74th. Which is completely un

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- heard of. It's like a band playing to an empty

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stadium. And then suddenly, without releasing

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a new album or anything, the stadium just fills

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up simply because they kept playing the same

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songs. So they enter season two with this weird

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momentum. They have the shiny Emmys on the shelf

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and they have this summer buzz. But now they

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actually have to perform. September 1983 rolls

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around. Does the summer of reruns actually translate

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to the fall season? Or was it just a fluke? It

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wasn't just a translation. It was a total explosion.

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The turnaround was immediate. In the first seven

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weeks of season two, the show posts an average

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rating of 17 .6. Okay, pause there. Yeah. 17

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.6. For you listening, if you haven't looked

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at a Nielsen chart since 1995, we need to contextualize

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that number. Because in the streaming era...

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We count views in the millions, but a rating

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is a percentage, right? Correct. A 17 .6 rating

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means 17 .6 % of all television -equipped households

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in America were tuned in. But the even crazier

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number is the share. They had a 27 share. Meaning,

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of the people who actually had their TV turned

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on at that exact moment, not just owning a TV

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but actively watching it, more than one out of

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every four was watching Cheers. Exactly. Imagine

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that today. Imagine one out of every four people

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watching TV right now is watching the exact same

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thing. exact same scripted comedy. It just doesn't

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happen. The Super Bowl gets those numbers. The

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Oscars used to. But a sitcom on a Thursday night,

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that is dominance. That is absolute monoculture.

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And it's not like they had an easy path either.

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I was looking at the schedule grid for Thursday

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nights in 83. This wasn't a cakewalk where they

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were the only game in town. No, Thursday was

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a complete war zone. NBC was trying to build

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this must -see TV block, though they didn't really

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call it that quite yet. But you had Give Me a

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Break. And Mama's Family leading in. Mama's Family.

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A classic in its own right, but a very different

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tone. much broader sketch comedy vibes very different

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yeah then we got it made then cheers then hill

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street blues but look at the competition they

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were up against cbs was airing simon and simon

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which was a juggernaut at the time a massive

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hit a detective show action mystery very easy

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to watch you didn't need to know what happened

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last week to enjoy simon and simon right very

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episodic and abc was throwing everything at the

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wall shows like It's not easy in Trauma Center.

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Trauma Center sounds like a show I've definitely

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forgotten. Was that a medical drama? It was a

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short -lived medical drama, yes. Just one of

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the casualties of that time slot. But Simon and

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Simon was the real threat. It's fascinating because

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it represents the old guard of TV. Procedural,

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episodic, safe. Cheers was the new guard. Serial,

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character -driven, highly neurotic. And Cheers

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won. Or at least it survived and thrived. It

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finished the season in 35th place from 74th up

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to 35th. That is the very definition of a breakout.

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The notes mentioned that other shows weren't

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so lucky. Taxi, which is arguably just as brilliant

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as Cheers, maybe even more acclaimed critically,

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couldn't survive this exact lineup. Taxi is the

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tragic counterexample here. It was also on NBC's

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Thursday lineup for a bit, but it just couldn't

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hold the audience. It got booted to Saturdays.

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Fame got pushed to syndication. It really highlights

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that Cheers had something highly specific that

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clicked at that exact cultural moment. Why? What

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was the X factor? We have a critic here in the

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notes, Steve Sonsky, who described Cheers as

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comic exaggeration built on a grain of truth.

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Is that it? Is it just truth? I think truth is

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definitely part of it. The bar setting is universal.

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Everyone knows a norm. Everyone knows a cliff.

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But if we are being honest, looking at the trajectory

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of season two, the engine wasn't the setting.

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It wasn't the beer. It was the friction. You're

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talking about Sam and Diane. I'm talking about

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the central conflict. Season one established

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the tension. Season two is where they decided

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to just let that tension drive the car off the

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cliff. It's interesting you say that because

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usually the golden rule in TV is don't get them

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together. The moonlighting curse, right? If the

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couple gets together, the sexual tension evaporates

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and the show dies. But in season two, they actually

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are together. They are together, but the writers,

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Glenn and Les Charles, and the director, James

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Burroughs, they did something brilliant. They

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realized that being together didn't have to mean

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being happy. They completely subverted the romance

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trope. The notes describe their status in season

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two as having fulfilling casual sex, but little

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else in common, which is a very polite way of

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saying it was a total train wreck. It was a disaster.

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Let's dissect the anatomy of this train wreck

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because we have two very specific archetypes

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here. Ted Danson as Sam Malone. The jock. The

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recovering alcoholic, the guy who coasts on charm

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and physical prowess. He's street smart, but

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he's deeply insecure about his lack of formal

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education. He's a man who used to be a hero on

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the mound, and now he's serving drinks to people

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who just remind him of his glory days. And Shelley

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Long as Diane Chambers. The pseudo intellectual.

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She's working as a waitress. But she acts like

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she's an anthropologist observing the lower classes.

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Yes. She is pretentious, verbose, honestly often

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quite cruel. She validates herself by making

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Sam feel small. And in season two, instead of

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the will they, won't they dance, we get the they

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are. But. It's a mess reality. It's the definition

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of dysfunction. And the show doesn't shy away

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from it. In fact, they open the season with it.

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The premiere episode, Power Play. Oh, this is

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the one with the door. The door scene is iconic,

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but let's break down the psychology of it. Sam

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and Diane are looking for a place to be intimate.

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They go to her apartment, which is rare, by the

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way. We almost never leave the bar in this show.

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True. It feels claustrophobic in the bar. So

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leaving should feel liberating. But it doesn't.

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It feels invasive. Sam immediately starts mocking

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her. He makes fun of her stuffed animals. He's

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looking at her personal space and treating it

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like a joke. Which, to be fair, if you bring

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a date home and your bed is completely covered

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in stuffed animals, questions will be asked.

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But Sam isn't asking questions. He's actively

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attacking. He is. So Diane throws him out. Now,

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a normal couple, they cool off. They talk the

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next day. Maybe they apologize. Sam alone doesn't

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cool off. No. He goes back to the bar, gets terrible

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advice from Carla, who actively wants to sabotage

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them, by the way, and he marches back. He literally

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kicks the door open. He breaks in. Let's just

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call it what it is. He breaks in and kisses her.

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It's that old Hollywood trope, right? Aggression

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equals passion. If you push hard enough, she'll

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like it. It is. And in 1983, the studio audience

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cheered. It was seen as romantic determination.

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But look at Diane's reaction. She says, I've

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called the police. A completely logical response

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to a break -in. It is. And Sam immediately backs

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down. He realizes he crossed a major line. He

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apologizes. But then Diane reveals she was bluffing.

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She didn't call the cops. And they embrace. It

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establishes the baseline for the whole season.

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Deceit, aggression, power plays, and impassion.

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It's a vicious cycle. It's a completely dopaminergic

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cycle. High highs, low lows. And the writers

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knew that this instability was so much more interesting

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than domestic bliss. There's another episode

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that flips the script on this, dealing with the

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intellectual gap, Sumner's Return. Oh, this is

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the War and Peace episode. Yeah. This is one

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of my absolute favorites because it's just so

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painful to watch. It is painful, and this is

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crucial for understanding Sam. Diane's ex -fiancee,

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Sumner Sloan, the guy who dumped her in the pilot,

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comes back to the bar. He is everything Sam isn't.

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cultured, literate, sophisticated. Sam feels

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incredibly threatened. Oh, deeply threatened.

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He feels small. He feels like just a bartender.

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So he decides he's going to read War and Peace

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to prove he's on their level. Which is, that

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is not a light beach read. That is a massive

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commitment. He spends five days on it, no sleep.

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He's struggling with the Russian names, the history.

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He's essentially torturing himself to be worthy

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of her world. And the real tragedy is the payoff.

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Or the total lack thereof. Right. He finishes

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the book. He sits down at dinner ready to debate

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Tolstoy. He's practically vibrating with knowledge.

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And Diane and Sumner just wave it off. They say,

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oh, that old thing. It's too well known to discuss.

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It's banal. That is gut wrenching. Yeah. It's

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elitism weaponized. It's basically saying your

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greatest, most agonizing effort is our boring

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Tuesday. It is. It totally humiliates Sam. But

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notice what happens next. Sam confesses. He admits

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he read it because he was jealous. He shows genuine

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vulnerability. And that is what Diane responds

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to. She chooses him not because he's smart, but

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because he tried so hard for her. It seems like

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season two is constantly asking the question,

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can these two people actually change each other?

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Or are they just sharpening each other's worst

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edges? That's the core question. And sometimes

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the answer is genuinely violent. we need to talk

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about Homicidal Ham. The title alone tells you

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we are veering way out of standard sitcom territory.

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This episode is bizarre. Diane has an ex -date

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named Andy. He's a convicted criminal, but he's

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also an aspiring actor. As one is. He comes to

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the bar, tries to rob it, but the climax of the

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episode actually happens during a local theater

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production of Othello. Because nothing says sitcom

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hilarity like Othello. Andy is playing Othello.

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Diane is Desdemona. And on stage, during the

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famous strangulation scene, he decides to actually

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strangle her. Real -life blending with the play.

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And Sam has to rush the stage to physically save

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her. It's slapstick, yes, but the stakes are

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literally life and death. It highlights how Cheers

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was willing to go into these much darker, almost

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thriller -like modes, but wrap it in a joke so

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you didn't quite realize how dark it was. Speaking

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of dark, we have to skip to the end of the season,

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the finale. I'll be seeing you. Because if the

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season starts with a breaking and a kiss, it

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ends with a portrait and a slap. The ultimate

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disintegration. This episode is so painful to

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watch if you're invested in them. Diane commissions

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a portrait by an artist named Philip Semenko.

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Sam hates him. He's pretentious. He's arrogant.

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He's basically a male Diane, but more successful.

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Exactly. And the whole relationship just unravels

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over this. Diane calls it a contest of wills.

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She realizes they aren't partners at all. They're

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combatants. And the critics at the time... They

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were pretty divided on this, right? I have a

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note here from the Gazette, Mike Boone. He thought

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the romance lasted too long. Boone thought it

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spoiled the bar's atmosphere. He wanted the ensemble

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comedy back. But then you have Harry Stein from

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TV Guide who went even further. He called the

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relationship destructive. He argued it completely

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failed to model trust and moral values. Which

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is funny because usually we don't look to sitcoms

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for moral instruction. Yeah, we don't. But Stein

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has a point. If you look at this relationship

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through a modern lens. The A .V. Club did exactly

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that. They reviewed the finale years later. There

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is a scene where Sam and Diane are physically

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fighting, pinching noses, slapping faces, twisting

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arms. Three stooges -esque is the quote from

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the source. Right. In 1984, that was comedy.

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Today, the A .V. Club called it troubling. They

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noted the subtext of violence. It really begs

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the question, were we laughing at abuse? That's

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the real tension of revisiting these classics.

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You have the warm nostalgia, but then you have

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the realization that Sam Malone creates a hostile

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work environment every single day. Every single

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day. And yet we still root for him. We do. And

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we root for the people around him. Because while

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Sam and Diane are sucking all the oxygen out

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of the room, the rest of the cast is quietly

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having their best season ever. The ensemble.

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This is the season where the supporting cast

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really stops being just support and starts being

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the structural pillars of the show. Specifically,

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the mailman, Cliff Clavin. John Ratzenberger.

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This is absolutely his breakout year. I didn't

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actually realize he wasn't a main cast member

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in season one. He was just a guest star. He was

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literally just the guy at the bar. But in season

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two, he gets promoted to the opening credits.

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He becomes the Cliff we know the know -it -all,

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the blowhard. And we find out he's Norm's best

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friend. Which anchors him emotionally. Yeah.

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But the episode that really defines him this

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season is Cliff's rocky moment. Is this the karate

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episode? It is. Cliff gets challenged to a fight

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by a patron named Victor. Cliff is terrified.

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He's a total coward. He leaves town to avoid

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it. But then he comes back and he decides to

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bluff. He claims he actually knows karate. The

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deadly hands of the United States Postal Service.

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Exactly. He sets up this elaborate demonstration

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where he's going to break a solid brick with

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his head to prove how dangerous he is. And knowing

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Cliff, this goes very poorly. Well, surprisingly,

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he actually breaks the brick. The crowd cheers.

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It's his huge moment of glory. And then he faints.

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He just passes out cold. It's the perfect encapsulation

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of his character. He succeeds. but in the most

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embarrassing way possible. And there is a really

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sweet moment where Diane helps him keep the secret.

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It adds a whole new layer of vulnerability. We

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realize Cliff isn't just annoying. He's incredibly

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lonely and desperate for any kind of respect.

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Then we have Carla Tortelli. And this is a case

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of life imitating art in a very literal way.

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Yes. Rhea Perlman was pregnant in real life.

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She gave birth in March 1983, so the show just

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wrote it in. Carla is pregnant for most of the

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season. Which is pretty brave for a sitcom back

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then. Usually they hide the actress behind a

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giant laundry basket or a conveniently placed

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fern. Right, the classic sitcom tricks. But they

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leaned into it. And it gave us the episode, La

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Cicerdote Cha, Carla Goes Into Labor. And we

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finally meet her sister, Annette. Also played

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by Rhea Perlman. A double role. And it's brilliant

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because Annette is the anti -Carla. She's polite.

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She's demure until she's not. She turns out to

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be incredibly flirtatious, especially with Cliff.

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Poor Cliff. He never stood a chance. It completely

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breaks his heart. But it really showed Perlman's

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range as an actress. And we also see a rare moment

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of maturity for Carla in the episode Battle of

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the Exes. This involves Nick. Her infamously

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sleazy ex -husband. Nick and his new wife, Loretta.

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Carla and Nick share a vulnerable moment, a kiss.

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They think maybe the spark is still there, but

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then they pull away and realize, nope, it's gone.

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It's completely dead. That's a heavy realization,

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to realize that the hate you've been holding

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onto doesn't even have passion behind it anymore.

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It's just exhausting. It is. It's a very adult

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moment in a show that is usually full of rapid

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-fire jokes. And speaking of adults, let's talk

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about the coach. Ernie Pantuso, played by Nicholas

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Colasanto. The absolute heart of the bar. He

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really is. He's the father figure for Sam and

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Diane. He's not book smart. But the show always

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emphasized his deep wit. He sees the emotional

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truth of a situation even when he doesn't fully

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understand the vocabulary being used. But season

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two gave him some real edge. Manager Coach is

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a fascinating episode. Coach takes over a Little

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League team. And he turns into an absolute monster.

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A total tyrant. He's screaming at kids, benchmarking

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them, acting like it's the seventh game of the

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World Series. It's so jarring to see the sweet

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coach yelling. It is. But it reminds us that

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he was a professional athlete. He was a highly

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competitive guy. Sam has to step in and remind

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him of his own past to snap him out of it. It

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added so many layers to a character who could

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have easily just been a one -note cartoon. And

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sometimes he was just the obstacle. And Kochi

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makes three. The ultimate third wheel. He's lonely,

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so he starts hanging out with Sam and Diane everywhere

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they go. He's ruining their romantic moments,

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just sitting there on the couch, completely oblivious.

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It's funny, but it's also deeply sad. It speaks

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to the profound loneliness of these characters.

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You can't forget Norm. Norm? The man, the myth,

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the bar tab. Season two is interesting for Norm

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because we really dive into his professional

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failures. He's a semi -unemployed accountant.

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He is. And in No Help Wanted, he actually starts

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working at the bar. Briefly. Very briefly. He

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washes dishes at Melville's upstairs first, and

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then Sam hires him to do the bar's taxes. It

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seems like a great idea. Friends helping friends

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out of a jam. Until it isn't. Norm finds out

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Sam didn't actually trust him. Sam filed completely

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different tax forms than the ones Norm prepared.

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That's a huge betrayal. It's basically telling

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your friend, I love you, but I think you're totally

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incompetent. Exactly. Norm nearly quits the bar

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entirely. It leads to this highly emotional reconciliation

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between them. And we also see his marriage arc

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progress. He separates from his unseen wife,

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Vera, then reconciles. In Norman's conquest,

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he even seriously considers cheating with a client.

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Which is very dark for Norm. We usually think

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of him as harmless and jovial. He considers it.

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But he realizes he loves Vera too much. He hides

00:22:07.759 --> 00:22:09.900
that affection constantly behind his old ball

00:22:09.900 --> 00:22:12.420
and chain jokes. But season two shows us that

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he really does care about her. He's not just

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a punchline. He's a guy trying to make a marriage

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work while feeling like a total failure in his

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career. It's amazing how much depth they gave

00:22:20.759 --> 00:22:23.799
these characters in just 22 episodes. But shifting

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gears a bit, we tease this in the intro. We have

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to talk about the disaster, the fire. This is

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one of those truth is stranger than fiction moments

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in Hollywood history. August 25, 1983. Cheers

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is filming at Paramount Studios and suddenly

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a massive fire breaks out on the lot. Just how

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bad was it? It was catastrophic. It destroyed

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two or three full sound stages. It wiped out

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four outdoor sets. We are talking about millions

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of dollars in damage. It looked like a war zone

00:22:53.609 --> 00:22:56.329
on the lot. Did the Cheers bar burn down? That

00:22:56.329 --> 00:22:59.630
is the absolute miracle. The fire raged all around

00:22:59.630 --> 00:23:02.549
it. But the Cheers production set, the bar itself,

00:23:02.809 --> 00:23:05.410
was totally unharmed. It completely survived.

00:23:05.730 --> 00:23:08.089
That is unbelievable. It's like divine intervention

00:23:08.089 --> 00:23:10.390
for a sitcom. It certainly felt that way to the

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cast and crew, but it had a very real impact

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on the season itself. Because of the extensive

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damage to the lot, the production was severely

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constrained. They couldn't film outside easily

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because the outdoor sets were literal ash. So

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they contributed to the claustrophobia we talked

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about earlier. Exactly. Diane's apartment in

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season two was the first location outside the

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bar that we see since the premiere. They were

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incredibly limited in where they could physically

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go. So the show became even more about the rapid

00:23:35.750 --> 00:23:38.049
fire dialogue, the facial expressions, the tension

00:23:38.049 --> 00:23:40.849
inside that one single room. The fire practically

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forced them to double down on the writing. And

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the writing held up beautifully. The production

00:23:45.730 --> 00:23:48.410
team, Glenn and Les Charles, James Burroughs.

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They stuck to their guns. They did. They had

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a very clear philosophy. Les Charles admitted

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that Sam and Diane had strong chemistry but fundamentally

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incompatible backgrounds. They knew, even then,

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that their relationship was never meant to last

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forever. They weren't writing a fairy tale. They

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were writing a collision course. And the industry

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rewarded them for it. We mentioned the Emmys

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before the season started, but they won during

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this era, too. Yes. For the 1983 -84 season,

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they received 12 nominations and won four more

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Emmys, including... Outstanding Comedy Series

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again. Rhea Perlman won Outstanding Supporting

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Actress. They were validating the sheer quality

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of the writing and acting, even as the ratings

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were just starting to catch up. I want to dive

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into some specific episodes that maybe aren't

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this huge season -defining milestones, but really

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define the specific flavor of season two. The

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deep cuts, if you will, because sometimes the

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best stuff is just sitting right in the middle

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of the season. Oh, let's do it. I love the deep

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cuts. Fortune and Men's Weight. This one involves

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a fortune -telling machine. This is a quintessential

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sitcom plot, but done with that specific cheers

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twist. Coach buys this old antique fortune -telling

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scale for the bar. Everyone gets a card. And

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Norm gets a good one. Norm's fortune says, your

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most troublesome problem will soon be solved.

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He assumes it means money or work. But it's Vera.

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It leads to an accidental date with her. He thinks

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he's meeting a stranger he met through the classifieds,

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and it turns out to be his own wife. It's incredibly

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sweet. It reinforces that they really are meant

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for each other. But for Sam and Diane, the fortune

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is much darker. It predicts deception. Which

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leads to a massive fight, naturally, because

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they are always looking for reasons to fight.

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Naturally. Diane has a platonic male friend she

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hasn't bothered to tell Sam about. Sam feels

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totally betrayed. They're on the verge of breaking

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up again, and they decide to let the machine

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decide their fate. They ask it for the future

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of their relationship. They put the penny in.

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The machine runs out of cards. The message just

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says, machine empty. Order more fortunes today.

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That is brilliant writing, just leaving it completely

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up to ambiguity. It is. It's the writers basically

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saying, we don't know either. Another really

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great one is. Where there's a will. This is the

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one with the dying man, right? Malcolm Cramer.

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Yes. A dying man comes into the bar. He leaves

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$100 ,000 to the friends he made at the bar in

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his will. And suddenly all that warm camaraderie

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evaporates. Everyone gets incredibly greedy.

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Even coach. Everyone. It turns into this complete

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frenzy of avarice. They are planning how to spend

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the money before the guy is even buried. And

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Sam decides to play moral arbiter. Which is rich

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coming from him. He burns the will. He burns

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$100 ,000. Well, he burns a piece of paper. He

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claims he burned the will to stop the greed.

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Diane is actually relieved. She's happy the madness

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is over. She praises him. But then Sam reveals

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he just burned a copy. He still has the real

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one hidden. Classic Sam Malone. He wants the

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credit for being moral, but he definitely wants

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the money too. Exactly. Diane berates him for

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tricking them. So in front of her eyes, he burns

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the paper again. But then Diane suspects he's

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tricked her again. She warns him about the guilt

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he's going to feel. And finally, just infuriated

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by her constant moralizing, Sam reluctantly burns

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the actual will. It's a fascinating study of

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morals versus money. Diane shames him into doing

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the right thing. And Sam absolutely hates her

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for it. It shows that her influence does make

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him a better person but it also makes him totally

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miserable. One more spotlight episode. Snow Job.

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This is a prime example of their endless cat

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and mouse games. Sam wants to go on a ski trip.

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Not to ski, obviously, but to seduce women. Obviously.

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So he lies to Diane. He tells her he's going

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to a funeral for Uncle Nathan in Vermont. Uncle

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Nathan. Not the most creative lie he's ever come

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up with. Right. Diane isn't buying it for a second.

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She says she's going to check the obituary. Sam

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spends the whole episode sweating, trying to

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cover his tracks. He eventually breaks down and

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admits the funeral is totally fake. And Diane's

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reaction. She reveals she knew he was lying the

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entire time. She never checked the obituaries.

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She just wanted to watch him squirm until he

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admitted it. She played him like a fiddle. It

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shows that she is often one step ahead of him

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intellectually, but he is constantly trying to

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outmaneuver her anyway. It's a power struggle.

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Pure and simple. It is. And that intense power

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struggle is exactly what kept people tuning in

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week after week. So we have looked at the ratings,

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the romance, the ensemble, the fire, and the

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episodes. When we look back at the overarching

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legacy of season two, how does it stand up today?

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It stands incredibly tall. The critical reassessment

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over the years has been very kind. DVD Verdict

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gave the story a 90 % rating. TV Guide named

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the episode How Do I Love Thee? Let me call you

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back a classic. That's the one where Sam tries

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to say I love you and just fails miserably. Yes.

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He says ditto instead. It's painful and hilarious.

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But getting back to the legacy, when the DVD

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came out in 2004, it included all these special

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features analyzing the characters. Things like

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strictly top shelf and cliff notes, the wisdom

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of Cliff Clavin. It solidified the idea that

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season two is where Cheers truly became Cheers.

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It's the season where they finally secured the

00:29:03.180 --> 00:29:04.819
audience. They jumped from the bottom of the

00:29:04.819 --> 00:29:07.319
barrel to the top 35. And eventually, of course,

00:29:07.380 --> 00:29:10.000
they would go even higher. Exactly. It set the

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stage for the next decade of television dominance.

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It proved that a show about a bar with a smart,

00:29:15.740 --> 00:29:18.519
sophisticated and very messy dynamic at its center

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could win over mainstream America. So as we wrap

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up this deep dive, let's try to synthesize all

00:29:23.880 --> 00:29:26.299
of this. What is the big takeaway from Cheers

00:29:26.299 --> 00:29:28.339
season two? I think the main takeaway is that

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season two is the year of definition. It defined

00:29:30.700 --> 00:29:32.539
the characters. Cliff became the Cliff we know.

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Norm became Norm. And it defined the will -they

00:29:35.700 --> 00:29:37.960
-won't -they trope for generations of sitcoms

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to follow. Shows like Friends, The Office, New

00:29:40.460 --> 00:29:43.059
Girl, they all owe a massive debt to the blueprint

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laid down by Sam and Diane in this specific season.

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It's the season where they stopped being a critically

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acclaimed flop and started being a cultural classic.

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Precisely. They prove that you can respect the

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audience's intelligence and still get the massive

00:29:55.339 --> 00:29:58.299
ratings. Now, before we sign off, I want to leave

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you listening with a provocative thought. We

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talked about the modern criticism of Sam and

00:30:03.200 --> 00:30:07.000
Diane. The shouting, the deception, the physical

00:30:07.000 --> 00:30:09.180
altercations like the nose -pinching fight. Right.

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It's very hard to ignore when you watch it today.

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If Cheers Season 2 aired today, exactly as it

00:30:14.240 --> 00:30:17.700
was written in 1983, would we view Sam and Diane

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as a romantic comedy? Or would the internet label

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it a toxic tragedy? Was there undeniable chemistry

00:30:24.319 --> 00:30:27.400
enough to mask behavior that today we might find

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completely unacceptable? Or was it purely a product

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of its time, relying on the immense charm of

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Ted Danson and Shelley Long to make the unpalatable

00:30:34.940 --> 00:30:37.880
palatable? That is the big question. Does the

00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.680
charm excuse the dysfunction? Or is the dysfunction

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the only thing that actually makes it interesting?

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Someone for you to mull over. If you haven't

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seen it in a while, go back and watch the season

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two finale. I'll be seeing you. With this deep

00:30:50.119 --> 00:30:52.900
dive in mind, see how it hits you now. It's definitely

00:30:52.900 --> 00:30:55.359
worth a rewatch. Just maybe don't model your

00:30:55.359 --> 00:30:58.019
own relationships after it. Very sound advice.

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Thanks for listening to this deep dive into Cheers

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Season 2. We'll catch you on the next one.
