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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are looking

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at a website that, and I'm willing to bet on

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this, almost every single person listening has

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on their phone right now. Oh, for sure. You probably

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have a tab open for it on your work computer.

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And if you're like me, you have this. Very specific,

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slightly dreaded relationship with it. I know

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exactly what you're talking about. It's that

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place you go when you need a job or when you

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feel like you should be networking, whatever

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that actually means in practice. Right. It's

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a professional obligation. Exactly. You go there,

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you update your digital resume, you humbly brag

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about a promotion, and you try your best to ignore

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the 15 messages from recruiters who clearly haven't

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read a single word of your profile. You are talking

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about the blue app. LinkedIn. I am talking about

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LinkedIn. And look, I know what everyone is thinking.

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Great, we're going to talk about a job board

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for an hour. How thrilling. Yeah, riveting stuff.

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But here's the thing that really surprised me

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when we started digging into the stack of sources

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for this. We aren't just looking at a place to

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upload a PDF of your CV. No. Not at all. When

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you actually peel back the layers and we're looking

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at Wikipedia archives, financial reports from

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Microsoft, academic sociology papers, it turns

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out we're looking at something much, much bigger.

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It's not a job board. That is, I think, the first

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and most important misconception we need to clear

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up. right away. Right. It is not a job board.

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It's what might be the most comprehensive and

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honestly slightly terrifying digital map of the

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global economy that has ever been built. It's

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the perfect way to frame it. And that right there,

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that is the central tension of this entire deep

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dive. How so? Well. On the surface, to you and

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me, it's a utility. It's a tool. It's a place

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to keep in touch with old colleagues, maybe find

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a new gig. But if you look under the hood, as

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we're going to do today, it is a massive data

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extraction engine. And the scale is just, it's

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hard to process. As of November 2023, we're talking

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about over 1 billion members. 1 billion. Let

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that number sink in. That number is hard to wrap

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your head around. 1 billion human beings. 1 billion

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members across 200 countries. That is... a staggering,

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almost unimaginable amount of human capital data,

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all concentrated in a single database. So the

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question we should be asking isn't how do I optimize

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my profile with the right keywords? Exactly.

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The real question is, what is this machine doing

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with all of that information? Is it a social

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network? Is it a public utility? Or is it what

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they internally call the economic graph? The

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economic graph. It sounds like something out

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of a sci -fi novel. Or a very, very dry economics

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textbook. Right. But as we found in the research,

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that concept is the key. It's the skeleton key

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to understanding everything about this company.

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It really is. So here's our mission for this

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deep dive. We want to understand how this machine

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actually makes money because, spoiler alert,

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it is not just from those little ads for project

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management software you scroll past. Not by a

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long shot. We need to look at the sociology of

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it, how it fundamentally changes the way we hire

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people and the way we get hired. And we have

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to talk about the dark side. Oh, there's definitely

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a dark side. The privacy breaches, the data scraping

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wars, and the geopolitical mess of trying to

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run a global database in a world that is more

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fractured than ever. And we can't ignore the

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security aspect. I mean, think about it. When

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you hold the professional identities of a billion

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people, you become a massive target. A target

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for who? For everyone. A target for hackers,

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for competitors, and even for spies. Spies on

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LinkedIn. Okay, we are definitely getting to

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that. But let's start at the beginning because

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LinkedIn feels like it has been around forever,

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right? Like it's just part of the internet's

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furniture. It does feel that way. But it actually

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has a very specific origin story that explains

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a lot about its corporate DNA. And it all goes

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back to a group of people we've talked about

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before on this show, the PayPal mafia. It is

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fascinating, isn't it? How all roads in Silicon

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Valley seem to lead back to PayPal. You had Elon

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Musk, Peter Thiel, Max Levchin. All the big names?

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All of them. But the key figure for LinkedIn

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is Reid Hoffman. Reid Hoffman. He was the executive

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VP at PayPal, right? That was his role. Correct.

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And before that, he had actually started a dating

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site. called socialnet .com. I did not know that.

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Yeah, it failed, but it taught him a lot about

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matching algorithms and social networks. So in

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December 2002, right after eBay bought PayPal

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and everyone got very, very rich, Hoffman gathered

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a team. And it wasn't just him? No, it was a

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team of people from PayPal and from that old

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social net company. People like Alan Blue, Eric

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Lee, Jean -Luc Fignon. They sat down to build

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something that was intentionally not about social.

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In the fun sense. So not Friendster or Myspace.

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Exactly. It was about social in the utility sense.

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They wanted to map professional relationships.

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They launched on May 5, 2003. And I think it's

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really important to contextualize this. This

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is before Facebook. A year before Facebook. Before

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YouTube. This is the very, very early days of

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what we now call Web 2 .0. But unlike the other

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social networks that just exploded overnight,

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LinkedIn was kind of a slow burn, wasn't it?

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Incredibly slow. I mean, in the startup world

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today, if you don't have a million users in a

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month, you're considered dead on arrival. Yeah,

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you're a failure. It took LinkedIn over a year

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until August 2004 just to reach one million users.

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They weren't chasing that viral loop of teenagers

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posting party photos. They were trying to get

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serious, busy professionals to sit down and upload

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their entire resume. That is a much harder ask.

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It's work. It's a huge ask. But because they

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were targeting professionals from day one, the

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economics were completely different. They weren't

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just burning through venture capital cash, hoping

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to figure out a business model later. Which was

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the model for almost everyone else at the time.

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It was. This is a critical distinction. They

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hit their first month of profitability in March

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2006. Wait, 2006? That's only three years after

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they launched. Three years. Think about that.

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Twitter, or X, took over a decade to turn a consistent

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profit. Uber is another one. It took forever.

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LinkedIn was in the black almost immediately.

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They realized very early on that if you have

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high -quality data on high -quality professionals,

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other people, recruiters, salespeople, will pay

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a premium for access to it. So while everyone

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else was trying to sell ads for sneakers and

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soda, LinkedIn was methodically building this

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incredibly valuable database of the global workforce.

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Precisely. Fast forward a few years. They are

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growing. They're opening offices in India, Ireland,

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Australia. It's becoming a global thing. And

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then we get to 2011, the IPO. The IPO moment.

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This seems like the moment the rest of the world,

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especially Wall Street. woke up and realized,

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oh, this isn't just a boring resume site. It

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was a massive wake -up call. They filed in January

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2011 and started trading in May under the ticker

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LNKD. And on the very first day of trading, the

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stock rose 171%. 171 % in a single day. That

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is unheard of. It closed at $94 .25, more than

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double the initial offering price. It was the

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biggest tech IPO since Google. Wow. And the reason

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investors went absolutely crazy for it wasn't

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because the website was fun to use or had amazing

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engagement metrics. No, it's pretty dry. It was

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because they saw the moat. They saw that LinkedIn

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had convinced millions and millions of professionals

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to voluntarily maintain and update their own

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data for free. They outsourced their data entry

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to the entire world. Essentially, yes. And by

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2011, they were actually earning more from advertising

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revenue than Twitter did, which shocks most people.

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That is shocking. I always think of Twitter as

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the ad machine from that era. But I guess high

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value targets, you know, CEOs, VPs, decision

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makers are worth a lot more to advertisers than

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random teenagers. An order of magnitude more.

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But that independent era didn't last forever.

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We have to talk about the biggest shift in the

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company's entire history. The moment they got

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swallowed by a giant. The Microsoft acquisition.

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I remember when this happened in 2016 and the

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price tag was just, it was eye -watering. June

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2016, Microsoft announces they're acquiring LinkedIn

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for $196 per share. The total deal was valued

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at $26 .2 billion. $26 .2 billion in cash. All

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cash. Even for a company the size of Microsoft,

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that is a massive check to write. Why? What was

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the strategic logic there? At the time, it was

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Microsoft's largest acquisition ever. It's only

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been surpassed recently by the Activision Blizzard

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deal. Right. To understand the why, you have

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to understand Satya Nadella's strategy for Microsoft.

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Microsoft already owned the professional cloud.

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They have Office, Word, Excel, Outlook. That's

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the tool set of work. It's what you use to do

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your job. Exactly. But they didn't own the network

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of work. They had the documents, but they didn't

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have the people. Oh, okay. That makes sense.

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Imagine the synergy they were pitching to their

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board. You're in Outlook. You're writing an email

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to a potential client. Microsoft wanted a world

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where you didn't just see an email address. You

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saw their entire LinkedIn profile right there

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in the sidebar. You'd see where they went to

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school, who you know in common, their recent

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posts. All of it. It was about integrating that

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social graph directly into the productivity suite.

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It connects the human context to the otherwise

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dry document or email. That was the vision. And

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surprisingly, for a deal this big, Microsoft

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took a very hands -off approach. That's not usually

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how these things go. No. Usually when a big company

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buys a smaller one, they gut it, they integrate

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it, and they completely destroy the culture.

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They absorb it. Right. Microsoft did the opposite.

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They let LinkedIn run as a distinct, independent

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entity. Jeff Wehner, the CEO at the time, stayed

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on and reported directly to Satya Nadella. They

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kept their brand, their culture, their offices.

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It was a very smart move. Speaking of Jeff Weiner,

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he seems like a really pivotal character here.

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He ran the company for 11 years before stepping

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down in 2020. He did. He became executive chairman

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and Ryan Roslansky stepped up as CEO. And in

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the research, it's Weiner who really pushed this

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concept of the economic graph. We dropped that

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term in the intro, but we need to really dig

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into it. What is the economic graph, practically

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speaking? So in 2012, long before the Microsoft

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deal. Jeff Weiner articulated his vision. He

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said he didn't want to just build a social network.

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He wanted to create a digital map of the entire

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global economy. A map of the economy? What does

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that even mean? He defined the nodes of this

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map very specifically. Nodes. OK, we're getting

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into graph theory here. It's simpler than it

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sounds. A node is just a connection point. Weiner

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said they needed to digitally represent and map

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every single job in the world. Every job. Every

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skill required for those jobs, every company,

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every professional, and every single educational

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institution. Okay, so it's not just John Smith

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works at Google. No, it's much deeper. It's John

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Smith, who is Node A, has Python skills, Node

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G, works at Google Node C, which is located in

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Mountain View, Node D, and is currently hiring

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for a product manager, Node E. which requires

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Python skills node B again. And all those nodes

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are interconnected. Exactly. And when you map

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all of those relationships at a scale of a billion

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people, you can start to do things that were

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previously impossible, science fiction even.

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Like what? The stated goal was to make the labor

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market more efficient by making it transparent,

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to remove friction. Imagine if a government or

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a company could see in real time that there is

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a shortage of 5 ,000 nurses in London. but a

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surplus of 5 ,000 nurses in Manchester. If you

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have that data, you can theoretically fix that

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inefficiency. You can target training programs

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or relocation incentives. That's the ambition.

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It's like they're trying to play SimCity with

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the actual global labor market. But to do that,

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you need incredible technology. You can't just

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run a standard database search on that level

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of complexity and scale. No, you can't. Which

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is why in 2014, they unveiled a new custom -built

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search architecture they called Killeen. Killeen.

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What makes that special? Well, think about a

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normal Google search. You type in a word, it

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finds documents with that word. That's a relatively

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easy problem to solve at scale. All right. But

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a graph search is fundamentally different. You're

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asking much more complex questions. You're asking

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things like, find me all of my second degree

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connections who live in the Bay Area, have worked

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at Apple in the past, no C++ art, and went to

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Stanford. That's a lot of different variables.

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It requires traversing this massive web of relationships

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almost instantly. Galeen is the custom built

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engine that parses that billion node web to find

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the needle in the haystack in milliseconds. So

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when I go to the LinkedIn search bar and start

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adding filters for people, company, and location,

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that's Galeen in the background sprinting through

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a billion connections to give me a list. That's

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Galeen. And that technology is what enables the

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entire business model. But, and here's where

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we need to get critical, building the map is

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one thing. How human beings actually behave on

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that map is something else entirely. Right, the

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human element. We have to look at the sociology

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of LinkedIn. This was the part of the research

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that I found most fascinating. Because we tend

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to think of getting a job as a meritocracy. You

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know, I have the right skills, therefore I get

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the job. But the academic research suggests it's

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a lot messier than that. It's incredibly messy.

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The source material brings up the weak ties theory.

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This is classic, isn't it? It's one of the most

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famous concepts in sociology, developed by Mark

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Granovetter way back in the 1970s. And LinkedIn

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is basically the industrialization of this theory.

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So what's the core idea? The idea is this. Your

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strong ties, your best friends, your family,

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your closest co -workers, they all inhabit the

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same world you do. They know the same people.

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They read the same news. They hear about the

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same job openings. So if I'm looking for a new

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opportunity. Asking my best friend is actually

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kind of inefficient because he probably only

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knows what I already know. Exactly. The information

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is redundant. But your weak ties, that's the

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key. The guy you met at a conference three years

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ago, the woman you worked with on one short project

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at a previous job. People on the periphery of

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your network. Right. They move in different circles.

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They have access to new information, information

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that you do not have. And research has proven

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this out on LinkedIn specifically. Yes. A study

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published in Research Policy in 2017 analyzed

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PhD holders on the platform. It confirmed that

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those who had larger, more diverse networks of

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weak ties were significantly more likely to transition

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successfully from academia into industry jobs.

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So the platform's real value isn't actually keeping

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in touch with your friends. It's hoarding acquaintances.

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It is about maintaining a low -maintenance digital

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Rolodex of people you barely know, because statistically,

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one of them is going to be your bridge to your

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next opportunity. But there's a darker side to

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this digital map. It's not a neutral map, is

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it? The research from sociologist Ofer Sharon

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talks about something called the filtration effect.

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This made me really rethink how we present ourselves

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online. Ofer Sharon's work is absolutely essential

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here. He didn't just look at the data. He interviewed

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unemployed workers and recruiters to understand

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how the hiring process actually works in the

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LinkedIn era. And what did he find? He found

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that platforms like this create all these new

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structural barriers that have almost nothing

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to do with your actual... ability to do the job.

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What kind of barriers? Visuals, for one. The

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profile picture. In the old days of paper resumes,

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at least in the U .S., you never included a photo.

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It was considered a way to avoid bias based on

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race, age, gender. Sure. On LinkedIn, a photo

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is basically mandatory if you want to be taken

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seriously. Sharon found that people get filtered

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out consciously or subconsciously, based on the

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perceived professionalism of their headshot.

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And also based on the personal narrative, the

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about section. Yes, how you construct your personal

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brand. So if you are an amazing engineer, but

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you're bad at taking selfies, and you're not

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great at writing marketing copy about yourself,

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you lose. You become invisible. You're invisible.

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The algorithm and the recruiters filter you out

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before they even look at your GitHub or your

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actual credentials. It exerts this massive pressure

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on every worker to become their own personal

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brand manager. You have to perform your professional

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identity. Constantly. It's a performance of employability.

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That explains all those posts we see, right?

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The I'm humbled and honored to announce. It's

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a performance because we all know. We're being

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watched and judged by the algorithm and by a

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hundred potential future employers. And another

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study from 2019 showed that this creates something

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called a bifurcated market. Bifurcated, meaning

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split in two. Yes. How does that work? The researchers

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found a stark class divide in how the platform

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is used. For high -skilled, high -demand workers,

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think AI engineers, senior executives, recruiters

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use LinkedIn to actively poach them. These are

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the passive candidates. Exactly. These people

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aren't even looking for jobs. The jobs come to

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them through in -mail. For them, the platform

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is a red carpet. Must be nice. But for everyone

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else, lower skilled workers, generalists, people

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in the administrative roles, LinkedIn works completely

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differently. Recruiters don't hunt for them.

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They just post an ad and let thousands of people

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apply and fight over it. So for that group, it's

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not a red carpet. It's a gladiator arena. That

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is a depressing but very accurate way to put

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it. And there was one more piece of research

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that totally contradicted the advice everyone

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gives you. We always hear, get a referral. A

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referral is the golden ticket. But the data says,

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maybe not. This was a fascinating study from

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the Foster School of Business. They found that

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job seekers were actually less likely to get

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a referral from a connection if they were in

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the same field. Wait, that seems completely backwards.

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If I'm a graphic designer, wouldn't I want to

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help another graphic designer get a job at my

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company? You would think so. But the researchers

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called it competition self -protection. Competition

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self -protection. If I refer you... and you do

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exactly what I do, subconsciously, I might be

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worried you'll replace me or you might compete

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with me for the best projects or for the next

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promotion. So people tend to hoard opportunities

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when it comes to their direct peers. So much

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for community. It's really, I'll help you as

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long as you're not a direct threat to my paycheck.

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You and nature doesn't magically change just

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because you put it on a website with a blue logo.

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Okay, so we've established the sociology, the

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human behavior on the map. Now let's talk about

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the actual product features and how they monetize

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this. Because I think most people don't realize

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that we, the users, are not the customers. That

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is rule number one of the internet. If you aren't

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paying for the product, you are the product.

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So who is the customer? LinkedIn has a few revenue

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streams, but the biggest one historically has

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always been talent solutions. Which is just a

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nice corporate phrase for selling our data to

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recruiters. That's exactly what it is. If you're

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a corporate recruiter, you pay thousands, sometimes

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tens of thousands of dollars a year for a special,

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super -powered version of LinkedIn called Recruiter.

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And what does that get you? It unlocks the full

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power of the economic graph. It allows you to

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see everyone's full profile, search with all

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those advanced filters we talked about thanks

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to Galeen, and crucially, message people who

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aren't in your network using InMail. That is

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the cash cow. They are selling the map back to

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the companies that are on the map. That's the

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business model. Then you have premium subscriptions

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for job seekers and sales professionals. And

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of course, advertising like sponsored updates.

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And it's a big business. The numbers are huge.

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Oh, yeah. In 2022, revenue hit $13 .8 billion.

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That was up from $10 .3 billion just the year

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before in 2021. The growth under Microsoft has

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been astronomical. And what about the features

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for us regular mortals? I feel like the whole

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definition of a connection has changed over the

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years. It has shifted dramatically. In the beginning,

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LinkedIn was what they called a gated network.

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Gated access. The philosophy was that you should

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only connect with people you actually know and

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trust. It was about replicating your real world

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trusted professional network online. I remember

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that. You used to have to know someone's email

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address to even send them an invitation. You

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couldn't just click a connect button. Exactly.

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But somewhere around 2017, they clearly realized

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that trusted networks don't grow very fast and

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social media is a game of scale. So they threw

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open the gates. And now you can have up to 30

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,000 connections. 30 ,000, which completely changes

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the dynamic. It has moved from being a private

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Rolodex to a public broadcasting platform. That's

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why you see so many influencers and content creators

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on there now. And the endorsements feature. I

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have to laugh about this one. My profile says

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I'm endorsed for skills I haven't used since

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college from people I haven't spoken to in a

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decade. The endorsement feature is a perfect

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case study in gamification gone wrong. It was

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supposed to be a lightweight way to verify skills.

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But it just became a game. It became a game of...

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I'll endorse you for strategic planning if you

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endorse me for public speaking. It's reciprocal

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backscratching. It's meaningless. Pretty much.

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In 2016, LinkedIn tried to fix it by highlighting

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endorsements from mutual connections or colleagues

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from the same company, trying to add some social

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proof, some weight to it. But honestly, most

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recruiters I've spoken to say they completely

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ignore them. They're just vanity metrics. They

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also made a big push to become a media company

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with the Influencers Program. Yes, bringing in

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people like Bill Gates, Richard Branson, Arianna

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Huffington. This was a really smart play to increase

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time on site. Right, to keep you on the app longer.

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If you just go to LinkedIn to update your resume,

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you might visit once every six months. But if

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you go there to read Bill Gates' latest thoughts

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on climate change, you might visit every day.

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It turned the platform from a static profile

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page into a dynamic content feed. And then there's

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the whole education piece, LinkedIn Learning.

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Which was born from the acquisition of lynda

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.com back in 2015 for $1 .5 billion. A huge purchase

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at the time. It was, and it completes the loop

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for them. You look for a job on LinkedIn, you

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see you're missing a required skill, you pay

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LinkedIn to learn that skill through LinkedIn

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Learning, and then you apply for the job on LinkedIn.

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They want to own the entire life cycle of your

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career. From education to application to networking.

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The whole thing. And recently, in October 2025,

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they launched the Career Hub, which seems to

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be doubling down on this all -in -one ecosystem

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approach. But as they gather more and more of

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our data to power these features, they run into

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massive legal and ethical walls. And this brings

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us to the part of the story that makes me the

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most nervous. The privacy part. Yeah, let's get

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into the dark side. Because for a company that

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relies so heavily on the idea of professional

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trust, they have done some pretty shady things

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to grow. We have to talk about the Perkins lawsuit.

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This is a classic example of growth hacking crossing

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the line into illegality. In the early days,

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LinkedIn had that feature. To find friends, you'd

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grant them access to your email address book,

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and they would see which of your contacts were

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already on the platform. Which sounds standard.

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A lot of apps do that. The first part was standard.

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But what users didn't realize, because it was

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buried deep in the terms of service, was that

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LinkedIn would then take the email addresses

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of everyone in your contacts who was not on LinkedIn.

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Oh, no. And send them an invite email. And if

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they didn't join after the first email, they

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would send another one. And then a third one.

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And the worst part was that the emails looked

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like they came directly from me personally. Yes.

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The subject line was literally, host speaker

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has invited you to join LinkedIn. It felt like

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you were personally nagging your friends and

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colleagues. People were furious. They felt humiliated.

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I can imagine. So a class action lawsuit was

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filed. Perkins versus LinkedIn core. That's right.

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And the court argument was, I agreed to connect

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with my friends. I did not agree to spam my entire

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address book, including my grandma. And how did

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the court rule? The court agreed with the users.

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They ruled that while a user might have consented

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to that first invitation email, they absolutely

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did not consent to the follow -up reminder emails.

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LinkedIn settled in 2015 for $13 million. Which

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for them is a rounding error. A slap on the wrist

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financially. But it was a huge reputational hit,

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and it forced them to stop that specific aggressive

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behavior. But that was about how they misused

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internal data. There's also this huge war over

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who owns the data once it's made public, the

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HiQ Labs versus LinkedIn case. This one feels

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like it sets a massive precedent for the entire

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Internet. It really does. This is all about the

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practice of data scraping. So HiQ Labs was a

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data analytics startup. And what did they do?

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They built a business model around scraping public

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LinkedIn profiles to analyze workforce trends.

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So they could tell their clients things like,

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engineers at this company are likely to quit

00:24:46.259 --> 00:24:50.109
soon, based on changes to their profiles. And

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to be clear, they weren't hacking into LinkedIn's

00:24:52.430 --> 00:24:55.009
servers. No, not at all. They were just writing

00:24:55.009 --> 00:24:57.349
automated scripts to visit the public facing

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pages and copy the information that anyone could

00:25:00.069 --> 00:25:02.589
see. They were doing what a human could do, but

00:25:02.589 --> 00:25:04.349
at the speed of light. LinkedIn didn't like that.

00:25:04.529 --> 00:25:07.289
LinkedIn hated it. They sent a cease and desist

00:25:07.289 --> 00:25:09.769
letter citing the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act,

00:25:09.869 --> 00:25:13.230
the CFAA, which is an anti -hacking law. They

00:25:13.230 --> 00:25:15.650
basically said, this is our data. It's on our

00:25:15.650 --> 00:25:18.390
servers. You are breaking into our house. And

00:25:18.390 --> 00:25:20.539
the court said. The court sided with Haikyuu.

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They granted a preliminary injunction that forced

00:25:23.480 --> 00:25:25.160
LinkedIn to allow them to continue scraping.

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The reasoning was profound for the future of

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the web. What was the reasoning? The court argued.

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That if a user chooses to make their profile

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public visible to the entire world without a

00:25:36.450 --> 00:25:38.950
password, then the company, in this case LinkedIn,

00:25:39.250 --> 00:25:41.950
cannot use anti -hacking laws to stop someone

00:25:41.950 --> 00:25:44.569
else from looking at it. That is huge. It basically

00:25:44.569 --> 00:25:46.190
says if you put something in the public square,

00:25:46.269 --> 00:25:47.970
you can't be mad when someone takes a picture

00:25:47.970 --> 00:25:49.950
of it. That's the perfect analogy. Thank you.

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But this creates a security nightmare. If scraping

00:25:52.769 --> 00:25:55.369
public data is legal, how do you distinguish

00:25:55.369 --> 00:25:58.369
between a startup like HiQ and a bad actor from

00:25:58.369 --> 00:26:01.329
Russia harvesting data for identity theft or

00:26:01.329 --> 00:26:03.569
phishing campaigns? And we know the bad actors

00:26:03.569 --> 00:26:05.529
are there. We absolutely have to talk about the

00:26:05.529 --> 00:26:08.940
2012 hack. The 2012 hack was the moment. LinkedIn,

00:26:08.940 --> 00:26:11.299
I think, lost its innocence in the public eye.

00:26:11.599 --> 00:26:15.759
Hackers stole 6 .4 million passwords. But the

00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:18.079
real scandal wasn't just the theft. It was the

00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:20.000
sheer incompetence of their security practices.

00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.240
They were storing passwords as unsalted SHA -1

00:26:23.240 --> 00:26:25.900
hashes. They were. Okay, we need to pause and

00:26:25.900 --> 00:26:28.319
explain that. For the listener who isn't a cryptographer,

00:26:28.500 --> 00:26:31.740
what is unsalted SHA -1 and why is it so bad?

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:34.259
Okay, think of hashing a password like putting

00:26:34.259 --> 00:26:36.839
through a shredder. You can't tape it back together

00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.299
to read the original password, but if you have

00:26:39.299 --> 00:26:41.859
the shredded remains, you can check if they match

00:26:41.859 --> 00:26:44.980
another shredded document. SHA -1 was the type

00:26:44.980 --> 00:26:47.940
of shredder they were using, and by 2012, it

00:26:47.940 --> 00:26:50.940
was already known to be a weak, outdated, and

00:26:50.940 --> 00:26:53.160
insecure type of shredder. And what about the

00:26:53.160 --> 00:26:56.680
salt? Salting is like throwing a handful of unique,

00:26:56.759 --> 00:27:00.019
random glitter into the shredder along with each

00:27:00.019 --> 00:27:02.539
piece of paper. It makes the resulting shredded

00:27:02.539 --> 00:27:05.279
mess unique to that specific piece of paper.

00:27:05.460 --> 00:27:07.579
So even if two people have the same password,

00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:09.859
the shredded result will be different. Exactly.

00:27:09.859 --> 00:27:12.059
If you don't salt the passwords, then the password

00:27:12.059 --> 00:27:15.700
123 always shreds into the exact same string

00:27:15.700 --> 00:27:18.460
of characters. Hackers have these massive lists

00:27:18.460 --> 00:27:21.119
of pre -shredded common passwords. They're called

00:27:21.119 --> 00:27:23.819
rainbow tables. Because LinkedIn didn't salt

00:27:23.819 --> 00:27:26.160
them, the hackers could just look up the hashes

00:27:26.160 --> 00:27:28.480
in a table and crack millions of them almost

00:27:28.480 --> 00:27:31.470
instantly. That is a security 101 failure. It's

00:27:31.470 --> 00:27:35.190
basic stuff. It was grossly negligent. And the

00:27:35.190 --> 00:27:37.950
fallout from that one breach lasted for years.

00:27:38.509 --> 00:27:43.630
In 2016, a new data dump appeared online. 117

00:27:43.630 --> 00:27:46.390
million login credentials, email and password

00:27:46.390 --> 00:27:48.890
combinations, likely from that original 2012

00:27:48.890 --> 00:27:51.720
breach, appeared for sale on the dark web. For

00:27:51.720 --> 00:27:57.079
how much? For about $2 ,200. $2 ,200 for 117

00:27:57.079 --> 00:28:00.119
million accounts. That is terrifyingly cheap.

00:28:00.299 --> 00:28:02.579
It shows how commoditized our personal data has

00:28:02.579 --> 00:28:05.359
become. And the security issues didn't stop there.

00:28:05.500 --> 00:28:08.640
In 2021, you might remember reports surfacing

00:28:08.640 --> 00:28:11.339
of 500 to 700 million user records being leaked.

00:28:11.440 --> 00:28:13.059
I do remember that. It was all over the news.

00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:15.359
Now, LinkedIn's defense to this was very interesting.

00:28:15.460 --> 00:28:18.000
They said, we weren't hacked. This was just aggregated

00:28:18.000 --> 00:28:20.150
scraped data. So they were falling back on the

00:28:20.150 --> 00:28:22.089
high Q ruling saying that someone just scraped

00:28:22.089 --> 00:28:24.069
what was already public and put it all in one

00:28:24.069 --> 00:28:26.690
big convenient database for criminals. That was

00:28:26.690 --> 00:28:29.109
their argument. But to you, the user, does it

00:28:29.109 --> 00:28:31.450
really matter if your phone number, your email,

00:28:31.549 --> 00:28:33.589
your entire work history and your location are

00:28:33.589 --> 00:28:36.250
for sale on a hacker forum? Do you care if the

00:28:36.250 --> 00:28:38.970
data was technically obtained via a hack or just

00:28:38.970 --> 00:28:41.809
a scrape? The end result is the same. My privacy

00:28:41.809 --> 00:28:44.490
is compromised. The result is identical. And

00:28:44.490 --> 00:28:46.549
there was one other feature that really creeped

00:28:46.549 --> 00:28:47.990
me out when I was reading through the source

00:28:47.990 --> 00:28:51.519
material. The intro feature from 2013. Oh, this

00:28:51.519 --> 00:28:54.480
was wild. This is peak Silicon Valley hubris.

00:28:54.680 --> 00:28:57.200
What did it do? So LinkedIn wanted to integrate

00:28:57.200 --> 00:28:59.980
more deeply with the iPhone mail app. They wanted

00:28:59.980 --> 00:29:02.440
to show you the LinkedIn profiles of people who

00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:05.000
were emailing you right inside the app. Okay,

00:29:05.039 --> 00:29:07.700
that sounds potentially useful. How do they do

00:29:07.700 --> 00:29:10.579
it? To do that, they rerouted all of your incoming

00:29:10.579 --> 00:29:13.480
and outgoing emails through LinkedIn's own servers

00:29:13.480 --> 00:29:16.039
first so they could inject the necessary HTML

00:29:16.039 --> 00:29:18.440
code. Wait, they were intercepting your email?

00:29:18.740 --> 00:29:20.279
They were putting themselves in the middle of

00:29:20.279 --> 00:29:22.779
your private email conversations. Basically,

00:29:22.859 --> 00:29:24.839
yes. That's it. Security firms went absolutely

00:29:24.839 --> 00:29:27.980
nuclear. Uh -huh. Bishop Fox, a well -respected

00:29:27.980 --> 00:29:31.119
security consultancy, described it as being architecturally

00:29:31.119 --> 00:29:33.500
similar to a man -in -the -middle attack. That's

00:29:33.500 --> 00:29:36.599
a hacking term. It's a classic hacking term for

00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.259
when a third party secretly relays and possibly

00:29:39.259 --> 00:29:42.259
alters communication between two parties who

00:29:42.259 --> 00:29:45.170
believe they're communicating directly. LinkedIn

00:29:45.170 --> 00:29:47.609
was performing a man in the middle attack on

00:29:47.609 --> 00:29:50.650
its own users and calling it a feature. Unbelievable.

00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:52.809
They eventually killed the feature after the

00:29:52.809 --> 00:29:55.150
backlash, but it just showed this mindset of

00:29:55.150 --> 00:29:57.829
we will break the fundamental security model

00:29:57.829 --> 00:29:59.990
of email just to show you a profile picture.

00:30:00.210 --> 00:30:02.589
It's that constant tension, isn't it? Convenience

00:30:02.589 --> 00:30:06.130
versus privacy and privacy almost always loses.

00:30:06.289 --> 00:30:09.039
Almost always. Now, I want to zoom out to the

00:30:09.039 --> 00:30:11.240
biggest picture possible. We've talked about

00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:13.779
users. We've talked about the company. But LinkedIn

00:30:13.779 --> 00:30:16.660
is a global entity, which means it has to deal

00:30:16.660 --> 00:30:19.619
with global politics. And this is where the lofty

00:30:19.619 --> 00:30:21.859
mission of connecting the world's professionals

00:30:21.859 --> 00:30:25.019
crashes into the hard reality of authoritarian

00:30:25.019 --> 00:30:28.980
regimes. Specifically. China. The China conundrum.

00:30:29.059 --> 00:30:31.279
This is a fascinating case study in corporate

00:30:31.279 --> 00:30:33.519
compromise. For a long time, LinkedIn was the

00:30:33.519 --> 00:30:36.440
only major American social network allowed to

00:30:36.440 --> 00:30:38.279
operate in China. That's right. Facebook was

00:30:38.279 --> 00:30:40.859
banned. Twitter was banned. Google was banned.

00:30:41.180 --> 00:30:44.099
But LinkedIn survived. How? Did they have some

00:30:44.099 --> 00:30:45.720
kind of special deal with the government? They

00:30:45.720 --> 00:30:48.559
made a deal. They compromised. When they launched

00:30:48.559 --> 00:30:51.180
their localized Chinese version called Nying

00:30:51.180 --> 00:30:54.599
back in 2014, the CEO at the time, Jeff Weiner,

00:30:54.740 --> 00:30:57.619
was very transparent about it. He wrote a blog

00:30:57.619 --> 00:31:00.940
post saying effectively, we will have to censor

00:31:00.940 --> 00:31:03.259
some content to comply with local Chinese law.

00:31:03.440 --> 00:31:06.099
But we believe providing some access is better

00:31:06.099 --> 00:31:08.799
than providing no access at all. That is a heavy

00:31:08.799 --> 00:31:11.359
utilitarian calculation to make. We will agree

00:31:11.359 --> 00:31:13.759
to silence some people in order to help millions

00:31:13.759 --> 00:31:15.859
of others get jobs and connect with the world.

00:31:15.980 --> 00:31:18.579
It's a massive ethical tightrope. And for a while,

00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:20.859
it seemed to work. But the demands of the Chinese

00:31:20.859 --> 00:31:23.000
government are never static. They always want

00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:26.079
more control. When what happened? In 2021, the

00:31:26.079 --> 00:31:29.140
crackdown intensified. LinkedIn started blocking

00:31:29.140 --> 00:31:31.599
the profiles of U .S. journalists, people like

00:31:31.599 --> 00:31:34.579
Bethany Allen Abrahamian and Melissa Chan, blocking

00:31:34.579 --> 00:31:37.299
them from being viewed inside China because their

00:31:37.299 --> 00:31:40.140
profiles mentioned sensitive topics like their

00:31:40.140 --> 00:31:42.279
coverage of human rights abuses. So an American

00:31:42.279 --> 00:31:44.500
company was actively censoring American citizens

00:31:44.500 --> 00:31:47.079
on an American -owned platform to appease the

00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:49.000
government. in Beijing. That was the breaking

00:31:49.000 --> 00:31:52.160
point. The bad press was overwhelming. The operational

00:31:52.160 --> 00:31:55.140
compliance was becoming impossible. And so late

00:31:55.140 --> 00:31:58.680
in 2021, Microsoft finally pulled the plug. They

00:31:58.680 --> 00:32:00.440
shut it down. They shut down the social networking

00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:03.559
service in China. They replaced it with a bare

00:32:03.559 --> 00:32:06.980
-bones app called InJobs, which had no social

00:32:06.980 --> 00:32:09.799
feed, no ability to share posts or articles.

00:32:09.880 --> 00:32:12.380
It was just a sterile job board. And even that

00:32:12.380 --> 00:32:16.000
didn't last, did it? No. In 2023, they discontinued

00:32:16.000 --> 00:32:18.579
the local job apps entirely. It was the end of

00:32:18.579 --> 00:32:20.819
the experiment. And it proved, I think, that

00:32:20.819 --> 00:32:23.119
you cannot run a Western -style social network,

00:32:23.319 --> 00:32:25.920
even a professional one, inside a regime that

00:32:25.920 --> 00:32:28.799
demands total information control. The two models

00:32:28.799 --> 00:32:31.200
are fundamentally incompatible. And Russia was

00:32:31.200 --> 00:32:32.819
even stricter, right? They didn't even get to

00:32:32.819 --> 00:32:34.819
the censorship phase. They just got banned outright.

00:32:35.059 --> 00:32:37.700
Russia kicked them out in 2016. No. Russia passed

00:32:37.700 --> 00:32:40.539
a data sovereignty law that requires any company

00:32:40.539 --> 00:32:42.940
holding the personal data of Russian citizens

00:32:42.940 --> 00:32:45.839
to store that data on servers physically located

00:32:45.839 --> 00:32:48.039
within Russia. And LinkedIn refused. LinkedIn

00:32:48.039 --> 00:32:50.440
refused to move the data. So Putin pulled the

00:32:50.440 --> 00:32:53.240
plug. LinkedIn is blocked in Russia to this day.

00:32:53.359 --> 00:32:55.039
It was removed from the App Store and Google

00:32:55.039 --> 00:32:58.359
Play there. If you're a professional in Moscow

00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:00.900
and you want to update your resume, You have

00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:03.680
to use a VPN. It really shows that the economic

00:33:03.680 --> 00:33:06.779
graph has hard borders. It is not truly global.

00:33:06.980 --> 00:33:09.119
But where there are borders and where there's

00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.000
valuable data, there are spies. And this part

00:33:12.000 --> 00:33:13.839
of the outline reads like it's straight out of

00:33:13.839 --> 00:33:17.119
a spy novel. LinkedIn is apparently a playground

00:33:17.119 --> 00:33:19.680
for espionage. It makes perfect sense if you

00:33:19.680 --> 00:33:21.779
think about it. If you're an intelligence officer

00:33:21.779 --> 00:33:24.740
and your mission is to recruit a source inside,

00:33:24.880 --> 00:33:27.970
say, the U .S. Department of Defense, or inside

00:33:27.970 --> 00:33:30.970
a major European telecom company, where do you

00:33:30.970 --> 00:33:33.049
go to find your targets? You go to the global

00:33:33.049 --> 00:33:35.109
directory where everyone conveniently lists their

00:33:35.109 --> 00:33:37.670
job title, their security clearance level, and

00:33:37.670 --> 00:33:39.869
the specific sensitive projects they've worked

00:33:39.869 --> 00:33:42.970
on. It's a menu for spies, a targeting database.

00:33:43.269 --> 00:33:46.130
And it's not just the bad guys, so to speak.

00:33:46.230 --> 00:33:48.390
There was a famous case revealed by the Snowden

00:33:48.390 --> 00:33:50.930
documents called Operation Socialist. And who

00:33:50.930 --> 00:33:53.829
was behind that? This was GCHQ British Intelligence.

00:33:54.539 --> 00:33:57.759
They set up fake LinkedIn pages to target employees

00:33:57.759 --> 00:34:00.880
of Belgacom, a major Belgian telecom company.

00:34:01.039 --> 00:34:02.940
Wait, the British were hacking the Belgians,

00:34:02.960 --> 00:34:05.019
aren't they allies? In the world of signals intelligence,

00:34:05.539 --> 00:34:09.219
everyone is a potential target. GCHQ used these

00:34:09.219 --> 00:34:12.539
fake profiles to lure Belgacom engineers to a

00:34:12.539 --> 00:34:14.960
malware -infected page so they could infiltrate

00:34:14.960 --> 00:34:17.579
their network. They used LinkedIn as the honeypot.

00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:21.039
And I assume the Chinese and Russians and Iranians

00:34:21.039 --> 00:34:23.260
are doing the same thing? At an industrial scale.

00:34:23.739 --> 00:34:25.500
The French intelligence services have issued

00:34:25.500 --> 00:34:27.579
public warnings that Chinese spies use LinkedIn

00:34:27.579 --> 00:34:30.179
to contact thousands of French officials. There

00:34:30.179 --> 00:34:32.639
was an Iranian hacking group, Threat Group 2889,

00:34:33.019 --> 00:34:36.159
that created these incredibly detailed fake personas.

00:34:36.559 --> 00:34:38.340
What did they look like? Fully fleshed out profiles,

00:34:38.659 --> 00:34:41.039
professional headshots, endorsements from real

00:34:41.039 --> 00:34:43.400
people, fake work histories at real companies.

00:34:43.619 --> 00:34:46.079
They look like legitimate recruiters. They would

00:34:46.079 --> 00:34:48.380
connect with you, build trust over a few weeks,

00:34:48.460 --> 00:34:50.340
and then send you a job description document

00:34:50.340 --> 00:34:52.500
that was actually a malware payload designed

00:34:52.500 --> 00:34:55.099
to steal your... It really makes you think twice

00:34:55.099 --> 00:34:57.219
about accepting that random connection request

00:34:57.219 --> 00:34:59.940
from the recruiter with the vague profile picture.

00:35:00.219 --> 00:35:03.199
You absolutely should be skeptical. Professional

00:35:03.199 --> 00:35:06.639
networking as a concept relies on trust on the

00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:08.860
heuristic that a friend of a friend is probably

00:35:08.860 --> 00:35:12.260
safe. Espionage operations are designed to exploit

00:35:12.260 --> 00:35:15.079
that exact heuristic. Before we wrap up, we need

00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.119
to look at the present day, or at least the very

00:35:17.119 --> 00:35:20.159
near future. The source material mentions some

00:35:20.159 --> 00:35:22.820
pretty significant changes in 2025 that seem

00:35:22.820 --> 00:35:24.739
to reflect the shifting political landscape,

00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:27.420
particularly here in the U .S. Yes, these big

00:35:27.420 --> 00:35:29.900
tech platforms are often barometers of the broader

00:35:29.900 --> 00:35:33.059
political climate. They're not neutral. In January

00:35:33.059 --> 00:35:35.099
2025, during the second Trump administration,

00:35:35.820 --> 00:35:38.380
LinkedIn quietly deleted its entire diversity,

00:35:38.500 --> 00:35:41.579
equity, and inclusion, or DEI, webpage. Just

00:35:41.579 --> 00:35:44.820
scrubbed it from the site. Gone. And then in

00:35:44.820 --> 00:35:47.500
July 2025, they removed specific protections

00:35:47.500 --> 00:35:49.599
against misgendering or deadnaming transgender

00:35:49.599 --> 00:35:52.199
users from their professional community policies.

00:35:52.420 --> 00:35:54.780
That's a huge rollback. It's a significant reversal.

00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:58.219
For years, corporate America, especially big

00:35:58.219 --> 00:36:00.739
tech, was moving in a very specific direction

00:36:00.739 --> 00:36:04.260
on these social issues. Now, these sources suggest

00:36:04.260 --> 00:36:06.739
they are pivoting rapidly to align with a new

00:36:06.739 --> 00:36:09.599
political reality. It shows that even these neutral

00:36:09.599 --> 00:36:12.719
professional platforms are deeply political in

00:36:12.719 --> 00:36:14.219
how they choose to govern their communities.

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:16.940
And finally, we have to talk about the AI elephant

00:36:16.940 --> 00:36:19.079
in the room. We are all feeding the machine.

00:36:19.340 --> 00:36:22.460
We are all the training data. In 2024, there

00:36:22.460 --> 00:36:25.119
was a controversy in the UK because it was revealed

00:36:25.119 --> 00:36:28.940
that LinkedIn had quietly opted in all users

00:36:28.940 --> 00:36:31.659
by default to have their public profile data.

00:36:32.030 --> 00:36:34.590
used for AI training. So my profile, my posts,

00:36:34.670 --> 00:36:36.769
my work history, my skills, it's all being fed

00:36:36.769 --> 00:36:39.030
into their large language models. Unless you

00:36:39.030 --> 00:36:41.449
explicitly go deep into your settings and find

00:36:41.449 --> 00:36:44.269
the button to turn it off. Yes. The UK regulators

00:36:44.269 --> 00:36:46.289
pushed back and forced them to pause it there.

00:36:46.409 --> 00:36:49.070
But for most of the world, we are the fuel for

00:36:49.070 --> 00:36:51.650
their AI ambitions. The economic graph is becoming

00:36:51.650 --> 00:36:54.130
the brain of an AI. So we've covered the history,

00:36:54.250 --> 00:36:56.769
the sociology, the money, the lawsuits, the spies

00:36:56.769 --> 00:36:59.449
and the politics. It is a massive, complex and

00:36:59.449 --> 00:37:02.900
powerful beast. It is so much more than a digital

00:37:02.900 --> 00:37:05.800
resume. So let's try to synthesize this for the

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listener. When they open that blue app tomorrow

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morning to scroll through the feed, how should

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they see it differently? I think you have to

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see it as a trade, a very explicit trade. You

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are trading your data, your entire professional

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life history, updated in real time for access

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to the network. and the opportunities it provides.

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And that trade can have real value. It can. It

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can get you a job. It can help you build your

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career. But you cannot be naive about the cost

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of that trade. You are a node in a graph that

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is being sold to recruiters, scraped by startups,

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and monitored by governments. Oh, be intentional

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about it. Be very intentional. Curate what information

00:37:45.670 --> 00:37:47.889
you choose to make public. Understand that your

00:37:47.889 --> 00:37:50.309
weak ties are powerful, but the platform itself

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is not your friend. It is a marketplace, and

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you are the inventory. I want to leave us with

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a final provocative thought based on where this

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is all going. We mentioned the new career hub

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and the AI agents that LinkedIn is rolling out

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in 2024 and 2025. If LinkedIn has all the data,

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they know who I am, they know my skills, they

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know what jobs are open, and they know who the

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recruiters are. I see exactly where you're going

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with this. Are we moving toward a future where

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I don't even apply for jobs anymore? Where the

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LinkedIn AI just... talks to the recruiters,

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they negotiate in the background and they just

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tell me where to show up for work on Monday.

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That is the logical conclusion of the economic

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graph, a completely frictionless labor allocation

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system. Yeah. But if we ever get there, if the

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machine does the networking and the applying

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for us, does the platform actually build community

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or have we just built a massive, silent, automated

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vending machine for human capital? A vending

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machine for human capital. That is a haunting

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image and definitely something to mull over the

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next time you get an email asking you to endorse

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someone for strategic planning. Thanks for listening

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to The Deep Dive. We'll see you next time. Goodbye.
