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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are clearing

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the table. We are pushing aside the niche topics

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and the obscure mysteries for a moment to tackle

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the big one. And you really don't mean big. I

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do mean the big one. The ultimate dinosaur. The

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one that every single person listening from,

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you know, toddlers to grandparents knows by name.

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Or at least they know the abbreviation. Yeah.

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It's the only dinosaur that has that kind of

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celebrity status where you don't even need the

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full name. T -Rex. Exactly. We are talking about

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Tyrannosaurus Rex, the king. And honestly, I

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think most of us carry around a very specific

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mental model of this animal. Oh, for sure. It's

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the movie monster. It's the thing rippling the

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water in the plastic cup. It's the jeep chaser.

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But looking through this massive stack of research

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you've brought today. The reality is so much

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stranger than the blockbuster version. It really

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is. The popular image of T -Rex has been, well,

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it's been frozen in time since the early 90s,

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essentially. But the science, the science has

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been moving at light speed. We aren't just looking

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at a movie monster anymore. We are looking at

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a biological marvel. We're going to be talking

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about an animal that pushes the absolute limits

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of what is physically possible for a bipedal

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predator. And that's what I want to do today.

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I want to peel back all those layers of pop culture.

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We're going to reconstruct the real king. We're

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going to talk about whether it had lips, the

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raging debate over whether it had feathers, the

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controversy over whether it's actually three

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different species, and the absolute nightmare

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mechanics of its bite. And we're going to do

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this by looking at how paleontology actually

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works, because we aren't just guessing anymore.

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We're moving from looking at broken bones to

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understanding life history, growth rates, cellular

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biology. and even complex social behavior. It's

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like a detective story. It is. It's a detective

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story that's been running for over 100 years.

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So let's set the stage. We all know the name,

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Tyrannosaurus Rex. Tyrant Lizard King. It has

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to be the coolest scientific name ever coined.

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It is hard to beat, I have to admit. It was named

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by Henry Fairfield Osborne way back in 1905.

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And right from the start, there was this recognition

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that this animal was the ruler of its domain.

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Where was that domain exactly? It lived in western

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North America on what was then a separate island

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continent called Laramidia. This was right at

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the very end of the age of dinosaurs, the Maastrichtian

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age, so about 69 to 66 million years ago. So

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it was there for the curtain call. Exactly. It

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was one of the last non -avian dinosaurs to walk

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the Earth before the asteroid hit. It saw the

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end of the world. Wow. But before that, it was

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the apex. And when I say apex, I don't just mean

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it was at the top of the food chain. I mean,

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it dominated the ecosystem in a way very few

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predators ever have. Okay, let's unpack the sheer

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scale of this beast, because I think sometimes

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the numbers get lost. We hear big, but how big

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are we talking? Well, let's look at the most

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famous specimen, Sue, which is housed at the

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Field Museum in Chicago. Sue has been the gold

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standard for a long time. Right, everyone knows

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Sue. And for good reason. We are talking about

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a skeleton that is roughly 12 .3 to 12 .4 meters

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long. Which is what? In feet? About 40? About

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40 to 41 feet, yeah. That's a school bus. A living,

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breathing school bus with teeth. A very heavy

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school bus. Sue stands nearly 4 meters tall at

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the hips. That's 13 feet. So its back is higher

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than a basketball hoop. Unbelievable. But the

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weight is where the modern science has really

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changed our understanding. How so? Did we used

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to think they were lighter? Oh, much. For a long

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time, we thought of dinosaurs as these sluggish,

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tail -dragging lizards. The models were, let's

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say... A bit shrink -wrapped. Right. But modern

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estimates, using 3D mathematical slicing and

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volumetric displacement models, have bulked them

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up significantly. We now put the mass of a mature

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adult like Sue around 8 .8 to 9 .2 tons. Nine

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tons. That is significant. That's two large African

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elephants taped together. And balancing on two

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legs. That's the key. And Sue isn't even the

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biggest one we've found, right? Possibly not.

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There is a specimen called Scotty. in Saskatchewan

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that might be even heavier. Some estimates put

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Scotty at nearly nine tons as well, maybe even

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pushing the upper limit of 10. So this isn't

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just big. This is pushing the biological limits

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of walking on two legs, isn't it? It absolutely

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is. When you get that heavy, gravity becomes

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your biggest enemy. Every single step places

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immense stress on the bones. And all that bulk

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is centered around a massive torso and a tail

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that has to balance, well, the business end.

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The head. The skull. Let's talk about that skull.

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Because it's iconic, but it's also a piece of

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engineering. It is massive. The largest skulls

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are over 1 .5 meters. That's five feet long.

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But it's the shape that's fascinating. If you

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look at other large meat -eating dinosaurs, like

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the Giganotosaurus from South America, or the

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Spinosaurus. Right, they're kind of long and

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narrow. Exactly. Their skulls are often narrow.

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They look like knife blades from the front or

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top. Thin and slicey. Exactly. But T -Rex, you

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look at a T -Rex skull from the back, it is incredibly

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wide. It's flared out. but the snout is narrow.

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Okay, so wide at the back, narrow at the front.

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Why does that shape matter? It's all about vision.

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That shape allows the eyes to face forward, not

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just to the sides. It grants T -Rex binocular

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vision. Depth perception. Precisely. Most dinosaurs

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had eyes on the sides of their heads. Great for

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peripheral vision. You know, seeing a predator

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coming from behind. But terrible for judging

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distance. But the T -Rex is looking right at

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you. Right at you. With overlapping visual fields.

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And not just okay depth perception. There was

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a landmark study by Ken Stevens at the University

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of Oregon. He modeled the visual field of T.

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rex using lasers and facial reconstruction. Lasers.

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That sounds cool. Yeah, it was very cool. And

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what did he find? He found it had a binocular

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range of 55 degrees. 55 degrees. How does that

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compare to, say, us or a bird of prey? It's better

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than a modern hawk. Right. Better than a hawk?

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In terms of the binocular overlap, yes. And it

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gets crazier. Stevens estimated the T -Rex had

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13 times the visual acuity of a human. 13 times?

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Yes. And significantly better than an eagle.

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He calculated that a T -Rex could distinguish

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objects as separate from the horizon up to 6

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kilometers away. 6 kilometers? That's almost

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4 miles. Yep. It could see you long, long before

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you could see it. Okay, so that scene in Jurassic

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Park. Oh, you mean the don't move, its vision

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is based on movement scene? Yeah. That's busted.

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Completely and utterly busted. It is one of the

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biggest myths in pop culture. If you stood still

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in front of a T -Rex, it would see you comfortably

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in high definition, and it would probably be

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wondering why the snack is presenting itself

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so politely. That is terrifying. It completely

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changes the dynamic. It's not a clumsy monster

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flailing around. It's a sniper. A sniper is a

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good analogy. Yeah. And it's not just vision.

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We have to talk about smell. I remember reading

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about the brain casts. Right. We can use CT scans

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on the inside of the skull to see the shape of

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the brain or at least the cavity it sat in. The

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endocast, right? The endocast, exactly. And the

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olfactory bulbs, the part of the brain dedicated

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to smell in T. rex. are huge. Relative to its

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brain size, they are massive. In fact, research

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showed that of 21 different dinosaur species

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sampled, T. rex had the most highly developed

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sense of smell. It's basically a bloodhound the

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size of a bus. A bloodhound with eagle eyes.

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It could likely smell a carcass or prey from

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kilometers away. This combination of senses is

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actually quite rare. Usually animals specialize.

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They prioritize one or the other. T -Rex double

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down on both. Okay, so it finds you. It sees

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you from miles away. It smells you. Now we have

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to talk about the lethal bananas. Ah, yes. The

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teeth. I love that description. Lethal bananas

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because they aren't flat, right? They're not

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like knives. No. And this is a key distinction

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from other predators. Many carnivorous dinosaurs

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had teeth that were like steak knives, flat,

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serrated, designed to slice through flesh. We

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call those ziphodont teeth. T -Rex teeth are

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different. They are encrasate. Encrasate. That's

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a new one for me. It just means thickened. They

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are D -shaped in cross -section. They are thick,

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round, and reinforced with ridges on the back.

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They look like railroad spikes. So they aren't

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just for slicing. They are for crushing. That

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shape. Prevents the tooth from snapping when

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the animal bites down with tremendous force and

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pulls. If you bite into bone with a flat, knife

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-like tooth and the prey twists, your tooth snaps.

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But if you use a railroad spike... The bone snaps.

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That is a gruesome image. What's the biggest

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tooth we've ever found? The largest one is over

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30 centimeters. Yeah. That's 12 inches long.

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But that includes the root. Oh. And the root

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is actually two -thirds of the tooth. It's anchored

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into the jaw like a pylon in concrete. This animal

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wasn't just nipping at you. It was engaging in

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osteophagy. Osteophagy? Bone eating. We find

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coprolites, fossilized poop attributed to tyrannosaurs

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that are just full of pulverized bone fragments.

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They were eating the marrow, the rich nutrients

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inside the bone that other predators couldn't

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access. It's a whole other level of predation.

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It's total consumption. Okay, speaking of the

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mouth, we have to address a recent controversy.

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The lips. Oh, the great lip debate. This has

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really heated up in the last few years. It's

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one of those things that seems small, but it

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totally changes how you picture the animal. Because

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in movies, the teeth are always hanging out,

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right? Like a crocodile. They look snaddle -toothed

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and scary. It's part of the monster aesthetic.

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But there's been a pushback on that. There has.

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For a long time, the assumption was that, like

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crocodiles, T -Rex didn't have lips. But there's

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a problem with that model. What's that? Crocodiles

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are aquatic. They spend most of their time in

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the water, so they don't need to worry about

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their enamel drying out. But T. rex was terrestrial.

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And if your teeth dry out, they get brittle.

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Exactly. Enamel needs hydration to stay strong

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and not crack. A study came out in 2023 by Thomas

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Cullen and his colleagues that looked at this

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specifically. They compared the wear patterns

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on tyrannosaur teeth to crocodiles and monitor

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lizards. What did the forensic evidence show?

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They found that the enamel on T -Rex teeth didn't

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show the kind of wear you see in crocodiles.

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Croc teeth get eroded on the outside because

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they are constantly exposed to the elements.

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Tyrannosaur teeth look pristine, much more like

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a monitor lizard, which has lips covering its

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teeth when the mouth is closed. So T -Rex likely

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had lips. It's the leading theory right now based

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on that study. Now, it wouldn't have looked like

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a human mouth with big fleshy kissing lips. Right,

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right. Think more like a Komodo dragon. A thin,

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scaly covering. The teeth would be hidden when

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the mouth was closed. That actually makes it

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scarier to me. It looks more calculating. Less

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like a mindless monster with teeth sticking out

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everywhere and more like a giant focused reptile.

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It cleans up the lines of the face. It changes

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the profile completely. It makes it look less

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like a fantasy dragon and more like a real plausible

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animal. So we have this massive, keen -eyed,

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lip -having, bone -crushing beast. The big question

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is, can I outrun it? The age -old question. The

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one everyone asks. The movie scene. The jeep

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chase. Must go faster. Could a T -Rex actually

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chase down a jeep doing 30 or 40 miles per hour?

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In a word, no. Really? You're crushing dreams

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here. I'm saving lives. Or, well, ruining the

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movie at least. The jeep chase is pure Hollywood.

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When we look at the biomechanics of an animal

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that weighs eight or nine tons, running in the

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strictly biomechanical sense of having both feet

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off the ground at the same time becomes nearly

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impossible. Why? Is it just too heavy? It's the

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skeletal load. A 2017 study modeled this using

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stress analysis on the bones. If a T -Rex tried

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to run at, say, 70 kilometers per hour, which

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is about 45 miles per hour. Yeah. The forces

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generated when its foot hit the ground would

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likely shatter its leg bones. Oh, so it would

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literally break its own legs if it tried to sprint.

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Likely, yes. The impact force would exceed the

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sheer strength of the bone. It's a physics problem.

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And that's not even getting into the muscles.

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What about the muscles? The muscle mass required

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to move that fast would be impossible. Some studies

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calculated it would need to be something like

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86 % of its body weight just in its legs. Which

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is not feasible. Not even close. There'd be no

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room for organs. So what is the speed limit?

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What's the real number? Most modern studies put

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the top speed around 27 kilometers per hour.

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That's about 17 miles per hour. 17 miles per

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hour. That's attainable. A good human sprinter

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can do that. Usain Bolt can do 27 -kilometer

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error. A reasonably fit human might hit 15 or

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16 -mile error in a panic sprint. So it's going

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to be close. But here's the thing. T -Rex wasn't

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built for sprinting. It was built for efficiency.

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What do you mean by that? There was a study in

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2020 that looked at the leg proportions. T -Rex

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has relatively long legs, but not for speed.

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It's for energy -efficient walking. They are

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power walkers. Power walkers? I'm picturing a

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T -Rex in a mall walking club with light weights.

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It's funny, but it's biomechanically accurate.

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They could cover huge distances with very little

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energy expenditure. They were the marathon walkers

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of the Cretaceous. So they were stalkers. Exactly.

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They could stalk prey for days, just keeping

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pace, waiting for an opening. While you were

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sprinting and getting tired, it is just walking

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tirelessly. And there was something about the

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tail, right? Helping them walk. That seems counterintuitive.

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It does. But a 2021 study by Pasha van Beelert

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in the Netherlands changed how we see it. They

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modeled the tail not just as a dead weight for

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balance, but as a resonating ligament. Like a

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spring. Almost exactly. Imagine a giant rubber

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band running down the tail. As the animal walks,

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the tail sways up and down naturally. The ligaments

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store energy on the upswing and release it on

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the downswing, helping to propel the animal forward.

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It acts like a suspension system. That is incredible

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engineering, so it made walking... cheaper energetically.

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It is. And their model found a preferred walking

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speed, a resonant frequency. It's roughly 4 .6

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kilometers per hour, which is almost exactly

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the preferred walking speed of a human. That

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is creepy. So if you were walking through the

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Cretaceous forest, a T -Rex could just silently

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pace you step for step without getting tired.

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Precisely. It's the persistence hunter model.

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And while they weren't fast in a straight line,

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they might have been surprisingly agile. Agile.

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A nine -ton animal. How? Relative to other giants,

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of course, they have a specific foot structure

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called the arctometatarsus. Break that down for

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me. The middle foot bone, the metatarsal, is

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pinched at the top between the other two bones.

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This locks the foot bones together into a single

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stable unit, making them very good at transmitting

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force without twisting. A more efficient foot.

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A much more efficient foot. Combined with massive

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leg muscles and low rotational inertia because

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the weight is centered near the hips, some studies

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suggest they could pirouette. Pirouette? Like

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a ballerina? A horrifying nine -ton ballerina.

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They could pivot on one foot very quickly to

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turn and face a threat or prey. So you might

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outrun it in a long straight line if you're fast,

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but don't try to outmaneuver it in close quarters.

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It can spin faster than you think. Okay, noted.

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Don't play tag with a T -Rex. Now we have to

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talk about the arms. We can't avoid them. The

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elephant in the room. Or the tiny arm theropod

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in the room. It is the joke of the paleontology

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world. The tiny arms, they're only about a meter

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long. About the size of a human arm, really.

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Which sounds big, but not on that body. But attached

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to a building -sized animal, are they vestigial?

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Like, were they just on their way out evolutionarily?

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That's been the assumption for a long time. But

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vestigial implies useless. And when you look

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at the bones, they aren't useless at all. What

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do you see? The areas where the muscles attach,

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the insertion points, are huge. The cortical

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bone, the outer layer, is extremely thick. These

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were not flimsy, weak little arms. So they were

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strong. Very strong. Estimates suggest the bicep

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alone could lift nearly 199 kilograms. That's

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over 400 pounds. Wait, each arm? Yes. So this

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animal could curl a motorcycle. That doesn't

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sound vestigial. If they were useless, evolution

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would have withered the muscles away. But they're

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so short, they can't even reach the mouth. What

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were they doing with them? That is the million

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-dollar question. There have been so many theories

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over the decades. Back in 1906, Osborne suggested

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they were for grasping mates. The romantic hug

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theory. A very strong, potentially painful hug.

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Then there was the push -up theory from Newman.

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The push -up theory. The idea that if a T -Rex

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was sleeping on its belly, it needed those strong

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little arms to push its front end up enough to

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get the legs under it to stand up. That makes

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some sense. It's a lot of weight to lift off

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the ground. It does. Then there's the weapon

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theory. Steve and Stanley suggested they were

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used for slashing. The claws were sharp. If it

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got close to prey, it could inflict deep gashes.

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But the reach is so short, you'd have to be basically

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chest -bumping the prey to use them. True. The

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range of motion is really limited, which brings

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us to a really interesting recent theory by Kevin

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Padian in 2022. He flipped the script completely.

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Oh, okay. He suggested the arms didn't get small

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for a function. They got small for safety. Safety?

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How is having smaller arms safer? Imagine a group

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of T -Rex feeding on a carcass. It's a frenzy.

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Giant jaws snapping, teeth crushing bone, heads

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thrashing around. If you have long, waving arms

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in that mix. Chop. Exactly. You get them bitten

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off. accidental amputation by a feeding partner.

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Padian argued that shrinking the arms got them

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out of the way of the jaws of other T. rex. It's

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adaptation by reduction. That is fascinating.

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So it's not, what are these for? It's, let's

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tuck these away so I don't lose them. It's a

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compelling hypothesis. It reminds us that evolution

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isn't always about building bigger weapons. Sometimes

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it's about damage control. Speaking of damage

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control, let's talk about growing up. Because

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a T -Rex doesn't start out nine tons. They hatch

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from an egg. No, and the growth curve is terrifying.

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We can determine their age by looking at the

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rings in their bones, like tree rings. It's called

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skeletochronology. And what does the life of

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a T -Rex look like based on those rings? It's

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an S -shaped curve. For the first decade or so,

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they grow relatively slowly. A teenage T -Rex,

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say... 13 or 14 years old. It's still a large

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animal, but it's lanky. It's built for speed.

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It doesn't have the massive bulk yet. It's the

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gazelle phase. Maybe the cheetah phase. They

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were likely chasing smaller, faster prey. But

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then around age 14, something happens. They hit

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a physiological growth spurt that is hard to

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comprehend. How fast are we talking? They start

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putting on about 600 kilograms a year. That's

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1 ,600 pounds every single year for four years

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straight. That is, they are gaining a cow and

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a half every year. Basically, they bulk up massively.

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The skull deepens, the bite force increases exponentially,

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they slow down, and they become the bruisers

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we know. It's one of the most extreme growth

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rates in the animal kingdom. This brings us to

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a huge controversy in the field. The dwarf tyrant.

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Nanotyrannus. Oh boy. This is one of the biggest

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fights in dinosaur paleontology. It gets heated

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at conferences. People have very strong feelings

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about this. So explain this to me. For years,

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we've found these smaller, sleeker tyrannosaur

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skulls. And some people say, that's a different

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species, Nanotyrannus. And others say, no, that's

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just a teenage T -Rex. That's the debate in a

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nutshell. The most famous specimens are Jane

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and the Bloody Mary specimen found in the Dueling

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Dinosaurs fossil. They have more teeth than adult

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T -Rex. Their skulls are flatter. They just,

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they look different. So who is winning this fight?

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Where does the science stand now? It swings back

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and forth like a pendulum. For a while, the teenage

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T -Rex theory was winning. A study by Holly Woodward

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in 2020 analyzed the bone rings of Jane and another

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specimen. They found that these animals were

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young, 13 to 15 years old, and were actively

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growing. So the bone ring said, I'm a kid. Right.

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Woodward argued that Nanotyrannus is just what

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a T -Rex looks like before that massive growth

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spurt. It filled that mid -sized predator niche

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while it was a juvenile. Case closed. You'd think

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so. But recently, in 2024, the separate species

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camp came back swinging. Researchers like Nick

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Longridge and Evan Sayeta put out a new paper

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arguing the growth curves just don't match up.

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How so? They argue the bone rings in the nanotyrannus

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specimens are getting close together, suggesting

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it was nearing its full size, a much smaller

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size than T. rex. And they identified distinct

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anatomical features that shouldn't change just

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because you grow up. So there might have been

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a mid -sized tyrannosaur running around alongside

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the giant T. rex. That's their argument. that

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there was another more grassy tyrannosaur in

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the ecosystem. It's an ongoing debate, science

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in action. We are watching the consensus form

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and break in real time. It's incredible that

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we're still arguing about the identity of these

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bones. It is, and it connects to life expectancy.

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Sue, the oldest T. rex we know of was only about

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28, maybe 33 years old. when she died that seems

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young for such a huge animal elephants live way

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longer it's the live fast die young strategy

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they grew explosively reach sexual maturity and

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then they died the fossil record suggests high

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mortality right around the time they become adults

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right what was killing them each other mostly

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Fighting for mates, reproductive stress, defending

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territory. The life of a T -Rex was violent.

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Almost every adult specimen we find has healed

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fractures, bite marks, or infections. They beat

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each other up constantly. Scotty had a broken

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rib, an infected jaw, and a bite mark on his

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tail from another Tyrannosaur. Which actually

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leads us to a specific discovery that changed

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everything. Not about bones, but what's inside

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the bones, the soft tissue. This is the Jurassic

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Park moment, for real. In 2005, Mary Schweitzer.

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Her work turned paleontology on its head. Tell

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us that story. I've heard it, but it's always

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amazing. She was studying a T. rex femur specimen,

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MOR1125. They had to break the bone to ship it

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via helicopter, which is usually a no -no, but

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it was a happy accident. It allowed her to look

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deep inside the marrow cavity. And she didn't

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just find rock? No. She dissolved the mineral

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part of the bone away using a weak acid, a process

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called demineralization, and she was left with

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flexible, stretchy tissue. She found transparent

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structures that looked like blood vessels. She

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found small red round things that looked like

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red blood cells. In a 68 million year old bone,

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that shouldn't be possible. Everyone thought

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it was impossible. Fossilization is supposed

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to replace everything with mineral. But she found

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collagen protein. It caused a massive storm in

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the scientific community. People said it was

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biofilm bacteria contamination. But it held up.

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It held up. Study after study has supported the

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idea that some original organic material can

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survive under the right conditions. That is mind

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-blowing. And it helped confirm the connection

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to birds, right? It did. The proteins they sequenced

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matched most closely with chickens and ostriches.

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But there was another clue in that femur. She

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found medullary bone. What is that? It's a special

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type of bone tissue that only female birds produce

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when they are pregnant, or rather, when they

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are ovulating, to create eggshells. It acts as

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a calcium reservoir. Finding it in a T -Rex proved

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this specimen was a female and she was pregnant

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when she died. That is incredible. We can actually

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sex the dinosaur from its bone tissue. Now, speaking

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of birds, feathers. The other big controversy.

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The one everyone wants to know about. Did T.

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rex look like a giant chicken? Because I've seen

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the art. Sometimes it's fluffy. Sometimes it's

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scaly. What's the verdict? It's complicated.

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We know for a fact that early Tyrannosauroids,

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the ancestors, had feathers. A fossil from China

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called Dilong had them. And Eudoranus. And the

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large Eudoranus, which also lived in China, was

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covered in shaggy filamentous feathers. And it

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was big, about nine meters long. So big Tyrannosaurs

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can have feathers. It's possible. Yes. It's definitely

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possible. However, for T. rex specifically, we

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have skin impressions. We have patches of skin

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from the neck, the tail, the hip, from a specimen

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nicknamed Y. rex. And what do they show? Scales.

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Tiny, bumpy, mosaic scales. No sign of feathers

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in those preserved patches. So, no feathers.

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Likely not a full coat. Think about it like an

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elephant. Elephants are mammals. Their ancestors

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were hairy. But elephants are huge and live in

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warm climates. If they were covered in thick

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fur, they'd overheat. Gigantothermy. They're

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so big, they generate their own heat. Exactly.

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Large animals retain heat well. A fully feathered

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adult T. rex might have cooked itself from the

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inside out. So the current thinking is that if

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they had feathers, they were sparse, maybe just

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along the back like elephant hair, or maybe they

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were born with downy feathers and lost them as

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they grew up. So less giant chicken and more

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scaly monster with maybe a feathery mullet. That's

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a fair visual. A very intimidating mullet. Okay,

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let's get into the behavior. The diet. Predator

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or scavenger? This was a huge debate in the 90s,

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thanks largely to Jack Horner. Right. Jack Horner.

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The famous paleontologist who advised on the

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Jurassic Park films, ironically, really pushed

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the pure scavenger hypothesis. And his argument

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was what? He looked at the tiny arms, useless

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for grappling, the relatively slow speed we just

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talked about, and that incredible sense of smell,

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and said, this thing is a glorified vulture.

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It walks around sniffing out dead things. It

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makes sense on paper. Why risk fighting a triceratops

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if you can just eat a dead one? It does make

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sense energetically. And to be clear, T -Rex

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absolutely scavenged. If it found a free meal,

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it would take it. Almost all large predators

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do. Lions scavenge. Wolves scavenge. But was

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it only a scavenger? That's where the theory

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falls apart. We have the smoking guns. Healed

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wounds. Yes. We have fossil evidence of failed

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predation. There is an Edmontosaurus, a duck

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-billed dinosaur with a tail vertebrae that has

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a chunk missing. And nestled in that wound...

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is a T -Rex tooth. And the key part. The bone

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has grown back over the wound and around the

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tooth. Which means? It means a T -Rex bit it

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and the Edmontosaurus got away and lived long

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enough for its bone to heal. You can't bite a

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dead animal and have it heal. Evidence of active

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hunting. The ultimate proof. There's also a Triceratops

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horn that was bitten off and the stump healed

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over. Oh. So T -Rex was actively hunting live,

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dangerous prey. And when it bit? The hardest.

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The bite force estimates are, frankly, astronomical.

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They're between 35 ,000 and 57 ,000 newtons.

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Put that in perspective for me. What's a human

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bite? A human is maybe 800 newtons on a good

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day. A lion is maybe 4 ,000 newtons. A saltwater

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crocodile, the living champion, is around 16

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,000. T -Rex is more than double that, maybe

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triple. It's just off the charts. It's hydraulic

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press levels of force. You can simply crush the

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neck or back of its prey instantly. It didn't

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need to be surgical. It was overwhelming force.

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So a terrifying predator. But did it hunt alone?

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Or are we talking about the dino gang's hypothesis?

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This is fascinating. The idea of pack hunting

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tyrannosaurs was really pushed by Philip Curry.

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He based this on bone beds places where multiple

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tyrannosaurs of different ages died together.

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Like the dry island bone bed in Alberta. Exactly.

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For the related tyrannosaur Albertosaurus, you

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have two dozen individuals, from young juveniles

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to old adults, all dead in the same place. And

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Curry's idea was that this was a pack. His idea

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is that they had a division of labor. The fast,

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lanky teenagers, the nanotyrannostypes, would

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act as the drivers, flushing out the prey. And

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the massive, bone -crushing adults would be the

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anvil that the prey ran into. That is a terrifying

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coordinated strategy. Is it accepted? It's debated.

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Some argue that the bone beds could just be predator

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traps. Maybe they all got stuck in mud over time

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or gathered at a drying waterhole. But then there

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are the trackways. In Canada, we found tracks

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of three tyrannosaurs moving together in the

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same direction at the same speed. That sounds

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like a group to me. It definitely suggests some

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level of social behavior. They weren't just solitary

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loners. They tolerated each other, at least sometimes.

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Tolerated being the key word, because there is

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a darker side to their social life. Cannibalism.

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We have proof of this. We do. We have T -Rex

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bones with T -Rex tooth marks on them. And given

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the spacing and shape of the gouges, it can only

00:27:57.140 --> 00:27:59.819
be another T -Rex. So if it's a buddy died. Lunch

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is served. Or maybe they thought to the death

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and the winner ate the loser. It's a dog -eat

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-dog world. Rex eat Rex world. Brutal. Now, before

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we wrap up, we have to touch on the taxonomy

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wars. We mentioned Nanotyrannus, but there was

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that study in 2022 that tried to split T -Rex

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into three species. Oh, the king, queen, and

00:28:18.019 --> 00:28:20.460
emperor study. Like Gregory Paul and his colleagues.

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Right. They argued that the variation we see

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in skeletons, some are robust with two pairs

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of incisors, some are slender with one worn in

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three names. Tyrannosaurus Rex, the king. Tyrannosaurus

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Imperator. the emperor, and Tyrannosaurus Regina,

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the queen. Did that stick? Not really. The paleontological

00:28:38.309 --> 00:28:40.869
community largely rejected it. The consensus

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is that the differences are just natural variation

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within a single species. Just like humans vary

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in height and build, T. rex did too. Or maybe

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males and females were different sizes. Exactly.

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Sexual dimorphism could account for it. The boundaries

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between the proposed species were just too fuzzy

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to be taxonomically valid for most people. So

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for now, T. rex stands alone as the one king.

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Mostly. But there is a new twist from just this

00:29:05.089 --> 00:29:09.809
year, 2024. Tyrannosaurus micreansus. The New

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Mexico find? Yes. A partial skull found in the

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Hall Lake Formation. It looks incredibly similar

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to T. rex, but the dating suggests it might be

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6 to 7 million years older. Whoa. So the grandfather

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of T. rex. Or a very close cousin. A direct ancestor,

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perhaps? It suggests that the Tyrannosaurus lineage

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might have originated in southern Laramidia,

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what is now the southern U .S., rather than being

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an immigrant from Asia, which was a leading theory.

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So the king might be a native son after all.

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It rewrites the map of where the tyrant king

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came from. So let's bring it all together. The

00:29:42.849 --> 00:29:44.990
real T -Rex. It's not the movie monster. No,

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it's a smart, social, potentially lipped, power

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walking, bone crushing, attentive parent that

00:29:50.250 --> 00:29:53.250
grew from a lanky teen into a massive bulk. It's

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an animal that lived a violent life, grew faster

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than almost anything else, and died young. It's

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scarier than the movies because it's a real biological

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animal that was Perfectly adapted to its world.

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Exactly. The why it matters is that Tyrannosaurus

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is the standard bearer for paleontology. Every

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new technology, CT scans, molecular analysis,

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biomechanical modeling is tested on T. rex first.

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Understanding it helps us understand the limits

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of life itself. And that leads me to my final

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thought. The soft tissue. The collagen. If we

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can find proteins in a 68 million year old bone,

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what does that mean for the future of genetic

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research? We're not talking about cloning, but

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could we one day know the color of its eyes from

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melanosomes or the actual sound of its call from

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the structure of its inner ear and syrinx? We're

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opening doors we didn't even know existed. We

00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:47.660
may never resurrect them, but we might know them

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more intimately than we ever thought possible.

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Next time you see a pigeon on the street, just

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remember that's the distant fluttering cousin

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of the tyrant king. Thanks for diving deep with

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us. Always a pleasure.
