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Welcome to The Debate. Today we're dissecting

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the machinery of the modern mind, or maybe a

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better way to put it is the digital mirror we've

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built to reflect it. We're talking about the

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neural network. Right. And it's a term that has

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become, you know, completely synonymous with

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artificial intelligence, yet it carries this

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biological passport. It suggests that we've successfully

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reverse -engineered the human brain. But when

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you peel back the layers of code, what are you

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actually looking at? a digital cortex, or just

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advanced statistics wearing a biological costume.

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And that is the central tension we're navigating

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today. The neural network is the architecture

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underlying everything from, well, chat GPT to

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self -driving cars. But its origins, and I would

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argue its fundamental nature, are rooted in neuroscience.

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The question is, have we built a model that functions

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like a brain? Or have we simply borrowed the

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terminology to brand a mathematical calculator?

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I'm taking the position that the neural and neural

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network is really a relic of history, not a description

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of function. We're dealing with mathematical

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models designed to approximate nonlinear functions.

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These are tools of engineering, not biology.

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And I'm here to argue that the biological comparison

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is not just a metaphor. It is the blueprint.

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From the architecture of interconnected units

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to the very way they learn from error, artificial

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neural networks are the first technology to successfully

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implement the theories of the mind proposed by

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19th century psychologists. We haven't just built

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a calculator. We have digitized the fundamental

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principles of thought. That is a bold claim.

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Let's verify it. To understand my stance, you

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have to look at where this concept came from.

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We tend to think of AI as a product of the Silicon

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Age, but the theoretical framework actually predates

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the computer. We're going back to 1873, to Alexander

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Bain and later William James in 1890. The fathers

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of modern psychology. Exactly. And what was their

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radical proposition? They suggested that thought

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or consciousness wasn't some singular, indivisible

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thing. They proposed that it was an emergent

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property, something that arises from the interactions

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among a massive number of neurons. This is the

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definition of a neural network, a group of interconnected

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units where the intelligence isn't in the unit,

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but in the connection. I don't dispute the historical

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lineage. I mean, Bain and James were brilliant

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in hypothesizing how the biological brain might

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work. And yes, in 1943... Warren McCulloch and

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Walter Pitts used those ideas to create the first

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computational model of a neural network. They

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were connectionists. They wanted to mimic the

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brain. And they succeeded. They demonstrated

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that simple units acting together could perform

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complex logic. But intention is not the same

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as execution. Just because McCulloch and Pitts

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wanted to build a brain doesn't mean the modern

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result is a brain. If you look at the definition

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of an artificial neural network in machine learning

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today, the biology is notably absent. It's defined

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as a mathematical model used to approximate nonlinear

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functions. Let's pause on that term, nonlinear

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functions, because I think it scares people off,

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but it's actually the strongest argument for

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the biological connection. How so? A linear world

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is simple. If I push a box twice as hard, it

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moves twice as far. That's linear. But the real

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world, and biological decision -making, is non

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-linear. You can tap a person on the shoulder

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and get no reaction. Tap them slightly harder,

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they turn around. Tap them a tiny bit harder

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than that, and they might punch you. The output

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isn't directly proportional to the input. The

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brain is a non -linear processor. Artificial

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neural networks are the only mathematical tools

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that handle this non -linearity the same way

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biology does, through thresholds. I think you're

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conflating the what with the how. Yes, both systems

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handle complex, non -linear tasks. But the mechanism

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matters. In engineering, we say form follows

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function. But here, the form has diverged radically.

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The source material highlights a critical shift.

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Early models, like the Perceptron, built by Frank

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Rosenblatt in 1957, were physical hardware. They

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were machines you could touch. with wires acting

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like axons. And today, there's software. Right.

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And that transition to software is where the

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model becomes an abstraction. When you move to

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software, you're no longer constrained by the

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physics of the brain. You're optimizing for math.

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Modern networks are used for specific utility.

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Predictive modeling, facial recognition, handwriting

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recognition. They're statistical engines. To

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claim they're still biological models is like

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saying a submarine is a model of a fish. Yes,

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they both swim, but one uses a propeller and

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the other uses a tail. The mechanics are fundamentally

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different. I love the submarine analogy, but

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I think it fails because a submarine doesn't

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try to replicate the muscle structure of a fish.

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A neural network does replicate the information

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flow of a brain. Let's look at the actual transmission

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of data. This is the mechanics of transmission.

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Okay, let's get into the weeds. How do you see

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them as identical? In a biological brain, you

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have neurons. A single neuron receives signals

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from its neighbors through dendrites. If the

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total signal is strong enough, the neuron fires,

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sending a signal down the axon to the next neuron.

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Now look at the artificial version. You have

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nodes, or artificial neurons. They're arranged

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in layers. Input, hidden, and output. Information

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comes in, it's processed, and it's passed forward.

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The hidden layers are doing exactly what the

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mass of gray matter in your skull does, processing

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information in stages. Processing is doing a

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lot of heavy lifting in that sentence. Let's

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look at what is actually happening at that node.

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In biology, you're talking about electrochemistry.

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A neuron receives excitatory or inhibitory signals,

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chemicals like glutamate or GABA. These open

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ion channels. The cell membrane voltage changes.

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If it hits a threshold, boom, an action potential.

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It's a spike. It's a dynamic, temporal, physical

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event. And the math simulates that. The math

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replaces that with something totally different.

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The text is very clear on this. The artificial

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neuron calculates a linear combination of the

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outputs of the connected neurons. Which is a

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summation. It's a specific kind of summation.

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It takes a value x, multiplies it by a weight

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w, adds a bias b. It's algebra. y equals wx plus

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b. Then, to your point about non -linearity,

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it runs that number through an activation function,

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like a sigmoid or remove function. This squeezes

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the number to determine the output. You're describing

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the exact mathematical translation of the biological

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process. The weight is the strength of the synapse.

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The summation is the accumulation of neurotransmitters.

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The activation function is the firing threshold.

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Just because we write it in Greek letters instead

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of squishy tissue doesn't mean the logic is different.

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It is a high fidelity abstraction. I strongly

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disagree that it's high fidelity. It's a caricature.

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In the brain, timing matters. The rate of firing

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matters. The chemical soup matters. In the artificial

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network, it's just a static number passing through

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a static function. You're stripping away all

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the chaos and complexity of biology to get a

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clean mathematical equation. That's not a model

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of a brain. That's a spreadsheet that looks like

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a brain. But does the complexity of the substrate

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matter if the emergent behavior is the same?

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If I build a heart out of titanium and plastic

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and it pumps blood, it's a heart. If I build

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a network out of code and math and it recognizes

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a face, it's a neural network. But does it recognize

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the face the way a human does? Or does it just

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find a statistical correlation of pixels? This

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brings us to the most contentious point, learning.

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How does the system actually improve? This is

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my strongest evidence. We have to talk about

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Donald Hebb. Hebbian Learning, 1949. Right. Cells

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that fire together, wire together. This is the

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foundational rule of biological learning. If

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neuron A repeatedly helps fire neuron B, the

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connection between them gets stronger. The synapse

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physically changes. This is exactly, exactly

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how artificial networks learn. Explain that connection.

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In an artificial network, the behavior is determined

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by the weights, those numbers we multiply the

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inputs by. When we train the network, we are

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simply adjusting those weights. We're strengthening

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the connections that lead to the right answer

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and weakening the ones that lead to the wrong

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answer. That is heavy in theory and pure distilled

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code. It sounds like heavy in theory, but the

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mechanism for how those weights change is radically

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different. And the text points this out explicitly.

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Artificial networks are trained using empirical

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risk minimization and backpropagation. Now those

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are just the algorithms we use to adjust the

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weights? Just the algorithms. is a massive understatement.

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Backpropagation is the engine of modern AI, and

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it has no biological equivalent. Think about

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how it works. The network makes a guess. It calculates

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the error, the difference between its guess and

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the right answer. Then it uses calculus to go

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backwards through the network from output to

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input, calculating the gradient of the error

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and adjusting every single weight to minimize

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that error. It's an optimization technique. It's

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a way to find the right weights faster. It's

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a cheat code that biology doesn't have. Your

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brain cannot freeze time, calculate the mathematical

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error of a thought, and then send a correction

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signal backwards through your axons to adjust

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the synapses. Biological learning is local. It

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happens at the synapse, in real time, based on

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local signals. Artificial learning is global

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optimization based on a static dataset. I think

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you're getting hung up on the implementation

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details again. Backpropagation is simply the

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most efficient mathematical way to achieve the

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state of learning. The end result is what matters,

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a network where the connection strengths encode

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knowledge. The process dictates the capabilities.

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Because we use backpropagation, we need labeled

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data. We need a pre -existing dataset. The text

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says we train these networks to fit. a data set.

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We show it 10 ,000 pictures of cats and say,

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minimize the error in identifying these. That

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is statistical regression. That is curve fitting.

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But humans learn from data sets too. We call

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it experience. But we don't need 10 ,000 labeled

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examples to know what a cat is. We learn adaptively,

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physically, continuously. We don't perform empirical

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risk minimization on a static batch of data.

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We survive in an environment. The text makes

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this distinction clear. Biological networks are

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large -scale brain networks integrated into a

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nervous system that drives muscle cells in motion.

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Artificial networks are isolated software loops

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minimizing a loss function. You're acting as

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if these networks are stuck doing simple regression.

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We need to talk about the evolution of purpose.

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We aren't just building simple perceptrons anymore.

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We are building deep neural networks. Deep just

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means more than three layers. usually two or

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more hidden layers. But that depth creates emergence.

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The text mentions generative AI and general game

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playing. When you add those hidden layers, the

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network starts doing things that look less like

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statistics and more like cognition. It creates

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art. It writes poetry. It plays Go better than

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any human. It's impressive, I grant you. It connects

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back to a discovery by Sminyat Chakan in 1956

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regarding retinal cells. He found that you couldn't

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understand the function of the eye by looking

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at a single cell. You had to understand the network

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of horizontal cells. The interaction created

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the capability. That is what deep learning is

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doing. By stacking these layers, we're mimicking

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the deep hierarchical structure of the cortex.

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We're moving away from curve fitting toward feature

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extraction and representation. The constraints.

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Even with deep learning, The text notes the divergence

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from biology. These systems are often brittle.

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They can be fooled by noise that wouldn't fool

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a human. They require massive energy to train.

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They are approximating nonlinear functions, just

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extremely complex ones. I think you're underestimating

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the general in general game playing. A system

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that can learn the rules of chess, then shogi,

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then go, without being reprogrammed, that is

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approaching generalized intelligence. That isn't

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just a calculator. That is a malleable learning

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substrate. just like the brain. But it learns

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those games to maximize a score. It's still an

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optimization problem. It doesn't know it's playing

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a game. It doesn't have agency. The biological

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network is designed for survival. It's chemically

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connected to a body. The artificial network is

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designed for accuracy on a test set. What about

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self -driving cars? That is adaptive control,

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which the text mentions. That is a network navigating

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the physical world, making life -or -death decisions

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in real time. That is the closest parallel, I

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admit. But even there, the car is seeing numbers,

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not the road. It's calculating probabilities

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based on LIDAR point clouds. It's a simulation

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of perception. You keep using the word simulation

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as a pejorative, but all models are simulations.

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My argument, and the argument of the biological

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roots perspective, is that we have found the

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fundamental algorithm of intelligence. It just

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so happens that you can run that algorithm on

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wet biological tissue or on silicon chips. The

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weight is the universal unit of memory. The layer

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is the universal unit of processing. And my argument

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is that you've found a mathematical trick that

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produces results analogous to intelligence, but

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through a fundamentally different route. The

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linear combination is not an action potential.

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Back propagation is not heavy in plasticity.

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And empirical risk minimization is not survival.

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But we're getting closer. Every year, the networks

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get deeper. The architectures get more complex.

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We're adding attention mechanisms which function

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like human focus. And yet, the text reminds us

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that even as they get more complex, they become

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increasingly different from their biological

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counterparts. To solve the engineering problems

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of AI, we've had to abandon the biological constraints.

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we stopped trying to build a brain and started

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trying to build a machine that works. Maybe that's

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the ultimate irony. To build a machine that thinks

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like a human, we had to stop copying the human

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anatomy and start focusing on the human mathematics.

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Or maybe we're just seeing what we want to see.

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We look into the black box of a neural network

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and we see a reflection of our own minds, when

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really it's just a very shiny mirror made of

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calculus. That is the question we leave on the

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table. We've traced the arc from Bain and James'

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theories of the 1870s, to McCulloch and Pitts'

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circuits of the 1940s, to the massive deep learning

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models of today. A journey from biology to math,

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and perhaps back again. We encourage you to look

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at the source material and decide for yourself,

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is the deep neural network a sibling to the human

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mind, or is it simply the world's most impressive

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approximation machine? Thank you for joining

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The Debate. See you next time.
