You know, usually when we crack open a new source
file for a deep dive, we're looking for patterns.
We want to see some sort of consistency. Right.
But I have to say, looking at this massive spreadsheet
of NBA history, I mean, we have data going all
the way back to 1947. The first thing that hits
you isn't the pattern. No. It's the disruption.
It's the thing at the very, very bottom that
just... breaks the mold. You're talking about
the entry for June 2025. Exactly. The ink is
it's barely dry on this. We have to start right
there because the 2025 NBA finals didn't just
give us a champion. No it felt like it felt like
a validation of something bigger. It did. It
validated a completely different way of building
a team. We are talking of course about the Oklahoma
City Thunder. And it is a massive moment for
the league. And you're right. It's not just that
they won but how they won. This wasn't a team
bought in free agency. Not at all. This wasn't
a super team cobbled together over a single summer.
This was a harvest. A harvest. Oh, I like that.
That's good. Because for years, we watched...
OKC horde draft picks like they were preparing
for the apocalypse. Right. They were a running
joke. They were. They were the punchline of every
trade deadline. But then, you know, you fast
forward to 2025 and you have coach Mark Danielle
orchestrating this this seven game masterpiece
against the Indiana Pacers. And that series was
a grind. I mean, four or three. It came down
to the absolute wire. Which makes it even sweeter
for them, doesn't it? You look at the finals
MVP, Shai Gilchrist Alexander. He's. in the face
of this whole long game strategy. Watching him
lift that trophy, it really did feel like a signal
that the quick fix era of the NBA might be over.
It felt like a turning point. But here's the
kicker. And this is where the history gets messy.
This is technically the franchise's first title
since 1979. Right. And that is a wound that hasn't
quite healed up in the Pacific Northwest. Not
even a little bit. If you trace the lineage,
which, you know, we have to do to be accurate,
the 1979 championship belongs to the Seattle
Supersonics. That's right. The franchise relocated
to Oklahoma City in 2008. So in the record books,
this is technically title number two. But for
the city of Oklahoma City, for those fans, it's
number one. Oh, absolutely. It's their first.
It's a complicated legacy. But that's sort of
the mission for today, right? We aren't just
reading a list of winners from a spreadsheet.
No, anyone can do that. We want to unpack the
how and the why. We want to understand why the
league spent like 50 years being dominated by
just two teams, why the 90s were basically a
dictatorship and why the 2020s have turned into
absolute chaos. Chaos is the right word. I mean,
if you look at the landscape of winners from
1947 all the way to 2025, it really looks like
a mountain range. OK, explain that. You have
two massive peaks that just tower over everything,
a few smaller hills scattered around and then
a whole lot of, you know, flat land where teams
are just trying to survive. Let's talk about
those peaks, because if you're a fan of, say,
the Atlanta Hawks or the Sacramento Kings, looking
at this chart has got to be a little depressing.
Oh, it's brutal. The league is so incredibly
top heavy. It is the definition of an oligopoly.
If you just, you know, count the rings, the Boston
Celtics are standing right at the summit. With
their win in 2024, just a year before this thunder
victory, they reached 18 championships. 18. That's
a number that doesn't even feel real. 18. That
is a ridiculous number. And the Lakers are staring
right at their backs. Right at them. The Los
Angeles Lakers, and we're including their time
in Minneapolis here, which is important, they
have 17 titles. Okay, so do the math on that
for me. So 35 championships shared between just
two franchises. 35. We've had, what, roughly
80 seasons of this league? Just about. That means
nearly 45 % of NBA history ends with either green
confetti or purple and gold confetti falling
from the rafters. That is staggering. It really
is. It distorts the entire perception of success
in the NBA. How so? Well, in other sports, you
know, like the NFL or MLB, you have dynasties,
sure. But you don't have two teams that essentially
own half the history of the entire sport. Right.
The Packers don't have 18 Super Bowls. Exactly.
And it also, you know, it skews the conference
balance. As of 2025, the Eastern Conference has
41 titles to the West's 38. Which feels wrong,
doesn't it? I mean, it feels like for the last
25 years, the West has been the dominant conference.
The Wild West, right? It has been. For most of
the 21st century, the West has been a tougher
road. But history is long. The East banked a
massive surplus of championships, mostly in the
60s and 90s, that the West is still trying to
catch up to. And there's a weird clerical note
about that West -East split. involving the year
1950, isn't there? Oh, the 1950 season is a headache
for historians. I mean, the Minneapolis Lakers
won, but they were technically playing in the
Central Division that year. The Central Division,
which doesn't exist anymore. No, it was a short
-lived experiment. But for the sake of the East
versus West tally, statisticians usually just,
you know, lump that Lakers win in with the West
to keep the accounting clean. That's a little
asterisk. It's a definite asterisk. We love a
good asterisk. Okay, so... We've established
the Titans, Celtics 18, Lakers 17. But we need
to zoom in on how this happened, because it wasn't
a polite taking of turns, was it? Oh, not at
all. This was a war. It was the rivalry that
built the league. Absolutely. The Celtics and
Lakers have met in the NBA Finals a staggering...
Twelve times. Twelve. To give you some context,
the next most frequent matchup is the Lakers
versus the Sixers. And that's only happened six
times. So Celtics -Lakers is literally double
the next closest rivalry. Double. But when you
look at the head -to -head record in the finals.
It's not really a rivalry, is it? It's a beatdown.
It's pretty lopsided, yes. The Celtics lead the
finals head -to -head 9 -3. Oof. If I'm a Lakers
fan, I'm looking at that number and feeling a
little sick. Nine losses to the same team on
the biggest stage. Well, the pain is concentrated.
It really is. If you look at the timeline, the
1960s were essentially a horror movie for Los
Angeles. A horror movie. They played the Celtics
in the finals seven times in that decade alone.
1959, 62, 63, 65, 66, 68, 69. Yeah. Seven times
in 10 years. That is an absurd frequency. You
can't get away from them. And the Celtics won
every single one. Wait, wait. All seven. All
seven. That is psychological torture. I mean,
imagine being Jerry West. Imagine being Elgin
Baylor. Yeah. You are objectively top tier Hall
of Fame talent. You do everything right. You
get to the final seven times. Yeah. And you run
into Bill Russell. Every single time. It's the
Sisyphus myth brought to life on a basketball
court. I mean, pushing the boulder up the hill
all year long just to have it roll back down
on you in June. And it was always the same story.
It was. No matter how well the Lakers played,
the Celtics, specifically Bill Russell's defense
and Red Auerbach's system, they just always had
an answer. But the Lakers did eventually punch
back. The 80s were different. That was the Magic
versus Bird era. Exactly. The 1980s saved the
rivalry. It made it a real rivalry. They met
three times. Right. The Celtics won in 84, the
famous Heat game in Boston. But the Lakers finally
exercised their demons. They finally got over
the hump. They won in 1985 and then again in
1987. So they went two for three in the 80s.
That's respectable. It evens things out a little
bit. It was. It balanced the narrative. And then
in the modern era, they split. That's right.
Celtics won in 2008 with the big three, Garnett,
Pierce, Allen. And then the Lakers got their
revenge in 2010 with Kobe and Pau Gasol. That
2010 series was a grinder, a real rock fight.
But I want to go back to 1969 for a second. Okay.
Because you mentioned the Lakers lost again that
year. But there is a detail in the source material
that just screams tragedy. You're looking at
the italics in the MVP column. I am. The losing
MVP. This is just an incredible story. This is
one of the most fascinating anomalies in all
of sports history. So 1969 was the first year
the NBA decided to award a finals MVP trophy.
The very first one. The very first one. The series
goes to seven games. The Lakers have a super
team. They had acquired Wilt Chamberlain to pair
with Jerry West and Elgin Baylor. They were the
favorites. Overwhelming favorites. Game seven
was in L .A. at the Forum. They even had balloons
in the rafters ready to drop for the victory
celebration. Oh, the hubris. Never have the balloons
in the rafters. Never. The Celtics saw the balloons
and apparently got furious. They used it as motivation.
They won the game 108 -106. But here's the thing.
Yeah. Jerry West played so incredibly well. He
averaged nearly 38 points per game in that series.
He had a 40 -point triple -double in Game 7 that
the voters couldn't bring themselves to give
the MVP to a Celtic. So they gave it to West.
They gave it to West on the losing team. The
only time in NDA history a player on the losing
team has won finals MVP. The only time. And it
remains this... Ultimate consolation prize. It's
like, sorry we ruined your dream and wasted your
prime, but here's a trophy for your troubles.
Brutal. Absolute brutality. But, you know, that
dominance by the Celtics. It brings us to our
next big theme. We have to talk about what makes
a dynasty. Right. Anatomy of a dynasty. Because
the Celtics of the 60s didn't just beat the Lakers.
They beat everybody. They broke the math of the
league. I mean, if you look at the consecutive
championships section of our data, there is a
number that just looks like a typo. Yeah, it
doesn't seem real. The Boston Celtics won eight
consecutive titles from 1959 to 1966. Eight.
And I could eat a row. I mean, in the modern
NBA, winning two in a row is considered almost
impossible. A three -peat is legendary. Right.
Three is the stuff of legend. Eight is just,
it's greedy. It's a monopoly. And what's so incredible
is the transition within the dynasty. They started
with Red Auerbach coaching. But by the end of
the run. Bill Russell was the player coach. He
was coaching the team while playing. While playing
and grabbing 20 rebounds a game. Yeah. They won
again in 68 and 69 with Russell as the coach
on the floor. So let me get this straight. Between
1957 and 1969, a 13 -year span, they won 11 titles.
11 in 13 years. Correct. That's not a dynasty.
That's an empire. But they weren't technically
the first dynasty, right? If we go way back,
back to the black and white footage days. Right.
Minneapolis was doing work before Russell even
showed up in the league. We have to give credit
where credit is due. The Minneapolis Lakers.
George Mikan was the first true superstar of
the league. The first real giant. The original
big man. He was. And they pulled off the league's
very first three -peat from 1952 to 1954. And
they had won in 49 and 50 before that, right?
Uh -huh. So five titles in six years. A truly
dominant run. Now, you touched on 1950 earlier
as being a weird year. I want to dig into that.
You said they were in the Central Division. How
did the playoffs even work with three divisions?
It was a logistical nightmare. I mean, math is
stubborn, right? You can't have a normal four
-team semifinal bracket when you have three division
winners. That's an odd number. So the league,
in its... Infinite wisdom at the time decided
that the team with the best regular season record
would get a bye straight to the finals. A free
pass to the finals? You just get to skip around?
A free pass. That spot went to the Syracuse Nationals,
so they got to sit at home and rest. Meanwhile,
the Minneapolis Lakers, who won the Central,
had to play a semi -final series against the
Western champs, the Anderson Packers. Wait, the
Anderson Packers? The Anderson Packers, a team
that doesn't exist anymore. That seems incredibly
unfair. The Lakers have to grind out a whole
series while Syracuse is just chilling. It was
totally unfair, but it didn't matter. The Lakers
beat Anderson, and then they marched into the
finals and beat their well -rested Syracuse team
4 -2. Wow. It just goes to show how dominant
Mikan was. The format was basically rigged against
them, and they still won the whole thing. That's
amazing. Okay, so we have the Mikan era. We have
the Russell era. But for a huge chunk of our
listeners, the word dynasty means one thing.
Oh, yeah. It means red jerseys. It means the
Alan Parsons Project intro music. And it means
the 1990s. The Chicago Bulls. The double three
-peat. Even the phrase double three -peat sounds
mythological. It sounds like something out of
a fantasy novel. It really is the gold standard
of modern dominance. And the structure of it
is what makes it so unique. Lay it out. They
win three straight championships. Yeah. 1991,
1992, 1993. Then Michael Jordan retires to go
play baseball. And the entire league breathes
a collective sigh of relief. Everyone does. The
Houston Rockets sneak in and grab two titles
while he's gone. Right. The Hakeem Olajuwon years.
Exactly. But then Jordan comes back. He gets
his legs under him for a bit. And then they rip
off another three straight. 1996, 1997, 1998.
There is a stat about the Bulls in the finals
that I think defines them even better than the
six rings. It's the loss column. It's the zero.
The Chicago Bulls are 6 -0 in the NBA finals.
But he goes deeper than that. It does. They never
even required a game seven. That is the wild
part to me. Every other dynasty we've talked
about, the Celtics, the Lakers, even the modern
Warriors, they've all been pushed to the brink
at some point. They faced elimination games in
the final. Right. The Bulls. Never. They were
the ultimate closers. It was like once they got
you in a series, it was over. There was no coming
back. You have to look at the ring list generation
they created. Oh, the list of victims. We talked
about the Lakers losing to the Celtics in the
60s, but the Bulls denied an entire era of superstars
from ever reaching the top. It's a Hall of Fame
quality list. It really is. I mean, they beat
the Lakers in 91. That was Magic Johnson's last
hurrah. They beat the Clyde Drexler -led Blazers
in 92. The Suns in 93. That was Charles Barkley's
best shot. Poor Charles. Then the Sonics in 96.
Sorry, Gary Payton and Sean Kemp. And then the
Utah Jazz twice in 97 and 98. Carl Malone and
John Stockton, two of the all -time greats. And
they never got a ring. I mean, you have to ask
the question. If Michael Jordan decides he really
likes baseball and stays retired. Did the Utah
Jazz have two championships? Does Charles Barkley
have one? Does Patrick Ewing get one? Almost
certainly. The 90s were a closed shop. It was
just a foregone conclusion. If you weren't on
the Bulls, you were playing for second place.
And Phil Jackson was the architect for all of
them. Phil Jackson on the bench and Michael Jordan
was the finals MVP for all six. Yeah. Every single
time. Just the perfect storm of coaching, mental
toughness, and, you know, maybe the greatest
talent the sport's ever seen. Absolutely. So
we leave the certainty of the 90s and we move
into the 2000s and 2010s. We had the Kobe Shack
Lakers. We had the Spurs dynasty, which was more
of an every other year kind of dynasty. A very
quiet dynasty. Very quiet. But then we hit the
mid 2010s. And this is segment three. modern
history, and the shift to parody. This is where
the modern NBA really takes shape. We entered
the era of the Warriors and the Cavaliers. So
when we talked about how the Celtics and Lakers
played a lot, but they never played four years
in a row. That's the distinction right there.
From 2015 to 2018, the NBA Finals was literally
just a standing appointment. between Golden State
and Cleveland. It was like a TV show getting
renewed every year. It was. Four consecutive
years. Yeah. Steph Curry versus LeBron James.
It felt like the rest of the league was just,
you know, window dressing. They were just playing
out the string until June. Pretty much. And the
Warriors were clearly the dominant force in that
rivalry. Yeah. They won three of the four meetings,
2015, 2017, and 2018. But the one they lost.
Oh, man. 2016. That's the one everyone remembers.
That is the historic anomaly. I mean, you had
the 73 -win Warriors, the best regular season
record of all time. They were up 3 -1 in the
series. It was over. It was over. And the Cavaliers
stormed back to win that series 4 -3. It ended
a massive, massive championship drought for the
city of Cleveland, not just in basketball, but
in all major sports. With LeBron James as MVP,
of course. Of course. And that one series, that
comeback, it prevented the Warriors from having
a four -peat, which would have put them in that
Bill Russell territory. It really would have.
But once that rivalry broke up, you know, LeBron
went to L .A., Kevin Durant left the Warriors,
the league just broke wide open. Yes. We entered
what the notes here call the recent revolving
door. And this is the era we are living in right
now. I'd call it the era of parody. If you look
at the champions starting from 2019. the whole
concept of a repeat champion just vanishes. Let's
run down the list because the variety is actually
startling compared to the eras we just spent
all this time discussing. Okay, 2019, the Toronto
Raptors. Kawhi Leonard comes in for one year,
leads them to a title against the Warriors, wins
MVP, and then just leaves. It was like a one
-and -done mercenary mission. Yeah. And it was
successful. Then 2020. 2020 is the bubble. The
Los Angeles Lakers. LeBron and Anthony Davis
win it all in Disney World against the Miami
Heat. A very strange year. A very strange title.
Okay, 2021. The Milwaukee Bucks. Giannis Antetokounmpo
has that legendary performance. Drops 50 points
in the closeout game against the Phoenix Suns.
Amazing. 2022. The Warriors have a resurgence.
The old guard, Steph, Klay, Draymond, they come
back and beat the Celtics. And Steph Curry finally
gets his finals MVP. Which was a big moment for
his legacy, 2023. The Denver Nuggets. Nikoli
Jokic and the Nuggets just dominate the Miami
Heat. It's the first title in their franchise's
history. And 2024. The Boston Celtics. They finally
get over the hump. They break the tie with the
Lakers by beating the Dallas Mavericks. And finally,
that brings us back to where we started, 2025.
The OKC Thunder. So seven seasons, seven different
organizations hoisting the Larry O 'Brien trophy.
We have not seen a back -to -back champion since
the Warriors did it in 2017 -2018. We see repeat
franchises. You know, the Lakers and Warriors
popped up again. But no team has been able to
hold the throne. for two straight years. Not
at all. Why do you think that is? Is it the salary
cap? Is the talent just better and more spread
out? It's a combination of a few things. The
new collective bargaining agreements, the CBAs,
make it very, very punitive from a financial
standpoint to keep three superstars together
for a long time. So it basically forces teams
to break up sooner. It does. But also, you're
right, the talent pool is just deeper and more
widespread. You have legitimate superstars in
Milwaukee, in Denver. in Dallas, in OKC, in Boston,
in Philly, the days of one team having, say,
three of the top five players in the world, those
seem to be over, at least for now. It's definitely
stressful for the GMs trying to build a dynasty,
but it's amazing for the fans. I mean, you genuinely
don't know who's going to win in October. It
keeps the stakes incredibly high every single
postseason. It feels like anyone in the top tier
has a real shot. All right, let's get into the
weeds a little bit. Segment four, deep cuts,
quirks, and trivia. Because you can't look at
80 years of history without finding some weird
stuff. Oh, there are some real gems in here.
Let's start with the hardware itself. We call
it the Larry O 'Brien Trophy. We see it every
June. It's that iconic golden ball going into
the net. But it wasn't always called that, was
it? No, not at all. From 1947 all the way up
to 1976, the winning team received... The Walter
A. Brown Trophy. Walter A. Brown. Not a name
that rolls off the tongue quite like Larry O
'Brien. No, but he was the original owner of
the Boston Celtics and a key figure in founding
the league, so he's very important. The current
trophy design, the one we all know, was introduced
in 1977. Okay. But it wasn't actually renamed
to honor Larry O 'Brien, who was the former commissioner,
until 1984. So if you see those old photos of
Bill Russell celebrating with all those championships.
He's not holding the Larry O 'Brien. Right. No,
he's holding the Walter Brown Trophy, which looks
much more like a traditional cup or a silver
bowl. Interesting. OK, let's talk about the league
structure again. We mentioned that weird Central
Division, but the league itself wasn't even called
the NBA at the very start. That's right. From
1946 to 1949, it was the BAA, the Basketball
Association of America. There was a rival league
called the NBL. the National Basketball League.
They eventually merged to form the NBA as we
know it. And in those BAA years, the playoffs
were a little confusing. Confusing is a kind
word. It was a three -stage tournament. And in
the very early years, the two semifinal winners
played each other in the finals. But the bracket
wasn't strictly East versus West. So it was just
based on seeding? It was based on seeding that
crossed division lines. It was all very experimental.
They were figuring it out as they went along.
Speaking of experimental, we have to talk about
the shortened seasons. Because external events...
Lockouts, pandemics have forced the NBA to change
the rules on the fly. And I have a theory about
this. Okay, let's hear it. My theory is that
chaos favors experience. Look at the winners
of the shortened seasons. Okay, let's test it
out. 1999, first major lockout season, only 50
games. Who won? The San Antonio Spurs, a team
built on discipline and defense. David Robinson
and a young Tim Duncan, vets. That's a valid
point. Okay, 2012, another lockout. 66 games
that year. The Miami Heat. LeBron, Wade, Bosh,
veteran superstars in their prime. Okay. And
the last one, 2020, the COVID -19 bubble in Orlando.
The Lakers, led by LeBron again, one of the oldest,
most veteran -heavy teams in the league. You
might be on to something. It seems that when
the routine breaks, when you have fewer games
or a strange, isolated environment, the teams
with the most adults in the room seem to come
out on top. Exactly. Young teams need rhythm.
They need the full 82 games to figure things
out. Veteran teams just need the gym to be open.
That's a solid theory. I like that. All right,
let's trace some lineages. Because looking at
this list, I see team names that don't exist
anymore. And it can be confusing for a new fan
to realize that the Golden State Warriors actually
started in Philadelphia. Relocation is the hidden
story of the NBA. The Warriors are a prime example.
They won the very first title in 1947 as the
Philadelphia Warriors. Right. Then they moved
west to become the San Francisco Warriors and
finally rebranded as the Golden State Warriors.
What about the 76ers? They seem like such a Philly
staple. They are now. But that franchise actually
started as the Syracuse Nationals. The Nats won
the title in 1955. They moved to Philadelphia
in 1963 to fill the void that was left by the
Warriors leaving for the West Coast. That's wild.
So Philly lost a championship team and then immediately
gained another one. Correct. A very strange tradeoff.
And the Wizards, their history is a total mess.
The Wizards have a complete identity crisis in
their history. They started as the Chicago Packers.
The Packers? Like Green Bay? Yep. Then they were
the Chicago Zephyrs. Then they moved to become
the Baltimore Bullets. Then they became the Washington
Bullets. who won the title in 1978 with Wes Unseld,
and then finally rebranded to the Wizards in
the late 90s. So that 1978 Bullets title belongs
to the modern Wizards franchise. It does. Same
lineage. And we already touched on the Sonic's
Thunder connection. Which is still, I think,
the most contentious and emotionally charged
relocation in league history. For sure. Okay,
one last bit of trivia before we wrap this up.
Yeah. We talked about the Bulls being a perfect
sixth seal in the finals. Are there any other
teams with a perfect finals record? There are,
but it's mostly a result of very small sample
sizes. These are the one -hit wonders. Exactly.
The Baltimore Bullets, and this is not the Wizards
franchise, but an original team that folded back
in 1954. They went to the finals once in 1948
and won. So they are 1 -0 forever. Undefeated
for eternity. Put it on the tombstone. Then you
have the Sacramento Kings franchise, which is
technically perfect. They won way back in 1951
when they were the Rochester Royals. And they
haven't been back to the finals since? Not once.
So they are sitting on a perfect 1 -0 record
for over 70 years now. That is a very, very long
time to protect a perfect record. It is. And
then you have the recent ones. The Toronto Raptors
are 1 -0 after their 2019 run. Right. And the
Denver Nuggets are 1 -0 after 2023. So the strategy
for perfection is simple. Go once, win the whole
thing, and then just never go back. Avoid the
heartbreak by simply avoiding the finals altogether.
It's a bold strategy. It works for the record
books. OK, let's bring this all home. We looked
at the landscape from 1947 to 2025. We have the
Titans, Boston and L .A. hoarding nearly half
of all the trophies. And then we have this huge
field of scrappy winners, one and dones and everything
in between. It really is the big two and then
everyone else. But what stands out to me the
most is the shift over time. The first 50 years
of the league were defined by these powerful,
long -lasting dynasties. The Celtics, the Lakers,
the Bulls. Right. And the last six or seven years
have been defined by, well, next man up. By chaos.
Exactly. And that brings us right back to the
Oklahoma City Thunder. Right. They are young.
They are loaded with talent and draft picks.
They just won their first ring. The question
everyone is asking is, is this 2015 all over
again? Is this the start of the next great Thunder
dynasty? Or is it 2011? Remember the Dallas Mavericks?
They won a brilliant title with Dirk Nowitzki,
but they never got back to the top. That's the
scary part, isn't it? In this modern era of parity,
even a team as good and as well positioned as
OKC isn't guaranteed a repeat. They aren't. Not
at all. But if any team is built to break this
parity curse, you could argue it's them. They
have the youth and the assets to keep reloading.
So here's the final provocative thought for you
listening at home. We grew up on super teams.
We grew up knowing it was probably going to be
Jordan or Kobe or LeBron standing there at the
end. We found a certain comfort in the dynasty.
We did. But the expert perspective here is that
the era of the super team dynasty might actually
be dead. The system itself, the salary cap, the
luxury tax, it's all designed to kill it. We
might be in a permanent state of rotation where
the window to win is only open for 18 months
at a time. Unless. Unless. We're just waiting
for the next anomaly, the next Bill Russell or
Michael Jordan to emerge from the 2026 draft
class. Look at all the salary cap rules. Look
at the parity and just say, I don't care. I'm
winning anyway. And honestly, that's the player
I really want to watch. Me too. Thank you so
much for diving into this history with us. It's
a lot of dates, a lot of names, but every single
one of those banners tells a story. Check the
show notes if you want to see the full list and
settle some bets with your friends. We'll see
you next time on The Deep Dive. Goodbye, everyone.