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We're looking at a set of documents today for

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this deep dive that really, I mean, it forces

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you to completely recalibrate how you think about

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the word readiness. Yeah, it really does. Because

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we are diving into the history of the 39th Motorized

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Infantry Battalion, which is often called Dnipro

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II. And, you know, usually when you look at military

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history, you focus on the big arrows on the map,

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right? The grand strategy. The macro level stuff.

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Sure. Exactly. But this source material is different.

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It's incredibly gritty. It's about a specific

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group of neighbors who mobilized in 2014 and

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just the absolute logistical nightmare they walked

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into. It is a fascinating and, frankly, just

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a very heavy case study. We are tracking the

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life cycle of this unit from its, well, its pretty

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chaotic formation in May 2014, straight through

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some of the most intense combat of the early

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Russo -Ukrainian War, down to its eventual transformation,

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and then its absorption into the 55th Artillery

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Brigade in 2016. And right off the bat, I want

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to address the elephant in the room regarding

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their equipment. Because I was looking at the

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logistics report for... June 2014, so this is

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right when they are deploying to the front line.

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And the numbers just didn't make any sense to

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me. I had to reread it. You're looking at the

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discrepancy between their heavy metal and their

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personal protection. Exactly. The battalion had

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managed to secure 39 armored personnel carriers.

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BTRs. Right, BTRs. Now, for those listening who

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maybe aren't armor geeks, these are the eight

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-wheel amphibious vehicles, usually BTR -60s

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or 70s in this specific context. Yeah. And they

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aren't tanks, obviously, but they are substantial

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machines. They're designed to carry a squad into

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battle, support them with heavy machine gun fire.

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And they had 39 of these. Which is a lot. That

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implies a fairly high degree of mechanization

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for a volunteer unit. That is a serious amount

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of firepower and mobility. It is. But here is

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the kicker. For the entire battalion operating

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those 39 vehicles, plus all their support staff,

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they had exactly 10 bulletproof vests. 10. It's

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a terrifying ratio. And I think we really need

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to pause on the tactical implications of that

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because it's not just about workplace safety,

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right? It dictates how you actually fight. How

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so? Well, a BTR is essentially an armored taxi.

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Its job is to get the infantry to the fight where

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they dismount and engage. But BTR armor is thin?

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It will stop small arms fire, but a heavy machine

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gun or an RPG goes right through it. Which is

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why you always see that footage of soldiers riding

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on top of them, right? Precisely. You ride on

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top to avoid the concussion inside if the vehicle

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hits a mine. Right. But if you are riding on

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top without body armor and you take shrapnel

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or sniper fire, you are a casualty instantly.

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Yeah, you're totally exposed. And if you dismount

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to fight... You're doing it naked, effectively.

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So having 39 BTRs but only 10 vests means your

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infantry cannot effectively support the vehicles.

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Which means the vehicles become vulnerable. Exactly.

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They become vulnerable because the infantry is

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too exposed to push out and protect them. It

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completely paralyzes your tactics. So how does

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this actually happen? I mean, we aren't talking

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about the 19th century here. This is 2014. How

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does a modern state send a battalion to the front

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line with disposed... disposable grenade launchers

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in armored vehicles but they just forget the

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Kevlar. This is where the source material gets

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into the weeds of the bureaucracy, and it is

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infuriatingly mundane. It wasn't that the vests

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didn't exist anywhere in the world. It was that

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the mechanism to buy them just broke down. The

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Anti -Monopoly Committee? Right. The Verkhovna

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Rada's Anti -Monopoly Committee suspended the

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tender process for purchasing vests at public

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expense. I have to stop you there because that

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sounds absolutely insane to me. You have a war

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kicking off in the east, Crimea is already gone,

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and you have a committee in Kiev effectively

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saying, quote, Hold on. We need to double check

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the paperwork on this contract to make sure it's

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fair competitive bidding. That is exactly what

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happened. Wow. It is a classic example of peacetime

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institutions failing to pivot to a wartime footing.

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In peacetime, suspending a tender to prevent

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corruption or monopoly pricing is good governance.

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Sure makes sense. But in an emergency mobilization,

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it's lethal. They were applying the logic of

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a slow, transparent procurement process to a

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situation that required immediate decisive action.

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And the soldiers on the ground paid the price

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for that strict adherence to procedure. They

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did. But the source also mentions private donors,

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though. Because I recall reading that there was

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a huge volunteer movement in Ukraine at the time,

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people crowdsourcing supplies, buying things

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off the shelf. Why didn't that fill the gap for

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Dnipro, too? It did for some units, absolutely.

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But for the 39th, the source specifically notes

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that promises made by local philanthropists in

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the Dnipropetrovsk region simply went unfulfilled.

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Do we know why? We don't. We don't know if that

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was due to a lack of actual funds or just logistical

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failures in getting the gear there, but the result

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on the ground was the same. You had a battalion

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of local guys. Right, because remember, Dnipro

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II was a territorial defense battalion. That

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means it was almost entirely composed of residents

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from that specific oblast. Just neighbors, basically.

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Yes, heading into the grinder with just their

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uniforms. Let's talk about that territorial defense

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designation for a second. Because I think there

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might be a misconception that these were just

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random guys running around with hunting rifles.

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This was a formal legal structure, right? Yes.

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These were the BTRO, the Battalions of Territorial

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Defense. The order came down on... April 30,

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2014, from Acting President Turchinov. Okay.

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The idea was to quickly raise local forces to

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guard critical infrastructure, guard the borders,

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because the regular standing army had been just

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severely hollowed out by decades of neglect.

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So they weren't intended to be frontline assault

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troops? Not at all. They weren't supposed to

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be stormtroopers. They were supposed to be the

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rear guard, holding checkpoints, securing bridges.

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But as we know, in the summer of 2014, the concepts

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of rear and front were... Extremely fluid. Very

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fluid. They were mobilized in May. By June, they're

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dealing with this massive vest crisis. And by

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July, they are deployed near Volnovaka. Right.

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And this is where the reality of the conflict

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shifts violently from guarding checkpoints to

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asymmetric warfare. You're referring to the incident

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at Kamyanka. Yes. July 21st, 2014. This event

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really marks the loss of innocence for the unit,

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if you want to call it that. The report details

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a minibus approaching a checkpoint. Again, put

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yourself in the shoes of these guys for a minute.

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They are locals probably just weeks out of their

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civilian jobs. Yeah, accountants, mechanics.

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Exactly. They are manning a roadblock near Kamianka.

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They see a civilian vehicle, a minibus, approaching.

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That is something they probably saw a hundred

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times a day. And that familiarity is exactly

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what the enemy exploited. Because the minibus

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was loaded with explosives. A suicide attack.

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Yes, essentially a VBIE, a vehicle -borne improvised

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explosive device. Which is a tactic we usually

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associate with insurgencies in the Middle East,

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not necessarily a conventional war in Europe.

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It really highlights the chaotic hybrid nature

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of the fighting in 2014. It wasn't just artillery

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duels across fields. It was deception. The bus

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approached the checkpoint and detonated. And

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five soldiers from the 39th were killed. Instantly.

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And this goes back to our earlier equipment discussion.

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Because against a truck bomb, a bulletproof vest

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isn't going to save you anyway. No, it won't.

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But the psychological impact of that attack,

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realizing that literally anything rolling down

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the road, any civilian vehicle could be a weapon,

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that fundamentally changes how you operate. It

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changes everything. You go from being a guy guarding

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your neighborhood at a checkpoint to a soldier.

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who has to view every single civilian as a potential

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mortal threat. It hardens the unit very quickly,

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and it happened right before they were thrown

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into what was arguably the most catastrophic

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engagement of the entire early war. We really

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need to talk about Ilovaisk. Yeah. If you follow

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this history at all, the word Ilovaisk carries

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an immense amount of weight. It is synonymous

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with tragedy. And the 39th was right there. They

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were. On August 1st, the infantry and security

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companies of the battalion transferred to the

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Nagopelya district. And geographically, this

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is critical. Extremely. Mando Gepilya is right

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between Ilovaisk and Kutynikov. They established

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a base camp there, effectively forming part of

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the outer ring of the Ukrainian operation to

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retake Ilovaisk. And just to set the stage for

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you listening, Ilovaisk was a major railway hub.

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Taking it would have cut vital supply lines to

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the separatist stronghold in Donetsk. So the

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Ukrainian command committed a lot of these volunteer

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battalions. You had Donbass, Dnipro -1, and our

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guys, Dnipro -2. to encircle the city. That was

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the plan. But then the tables turned dramatically.

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Russian regular forces crossed the border in

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large numbers, and the besiegers suddenly became

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the besieged. The 39th found themselves trapped

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in what is now known as the cauldron. The source

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material describes fierce battles during this

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time, which honestly feels like a massive understatement.

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It is an understatement. We're talking about

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being surrounded on all sides, running low on

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ammunition, with higher level command and control

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essentially breaking down. And this desperate

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situation leads... directly to the infamous Green

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Corridor on August 29th. Now, for those who might

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just think of a corridor as a road, this is a

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negotiated diplomatic agreement, right? It was

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supposed to be. The Russians and the separatist

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forces allegedly agreed to let the Ukrainian

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units withdraw in a column, provided they didn't

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engage. A safe passage out of the encirclement.

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That was the promise. But as we now know, it

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was a trap. As the columns of Ukrainian vehicles,

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trucks, buses, and those BTRs we talked about

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earlier moved out into the open countryside,

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they were engaged. Just completely ambushed.

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Ambushed from pre -sighted artillery positions

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and direct tank fire. It wasn't a withdrawal

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at all. It was a shooting gallery. The source

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mentions the Book of Memory, which tracks Ukrainian

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casualties, and it lists the specific losses

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for the 39th Battalion here. Eight soldiers killed

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near Ilovusk. Eight confirmed killed from the

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39th in that specific sequence. Yeah. But you

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have to imagine the sheer chaos of that day.

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In a situation like that, unit cohesion completely

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breaks down. You have guys from the 39th jumping

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onto any vehicle that's moving, maybe a truck

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from the 93rd Brigade or a van from the Donbass

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Battalion. Just trying to survive. Exactly. And

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the BTRs, those 39 vehicles they started with,

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many of them were destroyed or had to be abandoned

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during the breakout. If you survive an event

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like Ilovaisk, it permanently changes the DNA

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of the unit. You simply aren't the same group

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of guys who signed up in Dnipro three months

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earlier. It's amazing they weren't disbanded

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right then and there. A lot of units that went

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through the Ilovaisk cauldron were deemed combat

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ineffective afterwards and just folded. But the

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39th kept going. They did keep going, but they

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had to evolve. And I think this is the second

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half of the story that often gets ignored. We

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focus so heavily on the tragedy of 2014, but

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the reconstruction of these units in late 2014

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and 2015 is just as important. This is the reorganization

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phase we see in the document. Yes. In November

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2014, the territorial defense label gets officially

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dropped. They are reorganized into the 39th Separate

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Motorized Infantry Battalion. That sounds like

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a subtle semantic shift to a civilian, but it's

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actually a huge doctrinal shift, isn't it? It's

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massive. A territorial defense battalion is essentially

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a local militia equipped with light weapons.

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A motorized infantry battalion is a regular formal

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army component. Right. It implies standardized

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logistics, standardized training and integration

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into the larger command structure of the armed

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forces. They were transferred directly to the

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command of the 55th Artillery Brigade. Which

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is one of the oldest and most respected artillery

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units in Ukraine. So Dnipro 2 goes from holding

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local checkpoints to what exactly? What is their

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daily job now? Security for the big guns. Artillery

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is the god of war. as the saying goes, but it

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is incredibly vulnerable up close. Because it

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sits miles behind the front lines firing over

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the horizon. Exactly. But if enemy reconnaissance

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units or special forces manage to slip past the

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front lines and get to those artillery batteries,

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the guns are toast. They can't defend themselves

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well at close range. So the 39th becomes the

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shield. Yes. Their job became protecting the

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55th. screening the firing positions, setting

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up defensive perimeters, ensuring the artillery

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could operate and relocate safely. It's a much

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more professional, specialized role. It requires

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intense coordination. You have to pack up and

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move when the guns move. You have to communicate

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on the same encrypted radio networks. And you

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have to understand artillery doctrine. Right.

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It really shows that the Ukrainian military was

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learning and learning rapidly how to take these

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initial volunteer bursts of energy and integrate

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them into a sustainable professional machine.

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And that integration effectively signaled the

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end of the 39th as an independent, standalone

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culture. By 2016, the unit was officially disbanded,

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or rather, fully absorbed. Right, they didn't

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just all go home. No, they became a dedicated

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security battalion specifically for the 55th

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Brigade. They traded their unique, independent

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Dini Pro 2 identity for institutional permanence.

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I want to circle back to the human cost of this

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entire journey, though. We talked about the five

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men lost at Kamyanka, the eight lost in the breakout

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at Ilovaisk. But the source gives us a final

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tally for the 2014 to 2017 period. The Book of

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Memory lists 28 individuals from the battalion

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who lost their lives. 28. It's one of those numbers

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that is small enough to comprehend on a human

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level, but large enough to completely devastate

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a community. If these men were all from the Dnepropetrovsk

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region, that's 28 families in close proximity

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to each other. And the community deeply felt

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that loss. The source actually describes a memorial

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ceremony held on December 8, 2018, in the city

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of Dnipro. And it wasn't just a standard military

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parade. No, it sounded deeply religious and civic.

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Very much so. Chaplains from the Ukrainian Orthodox

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Church of the Kiev Patriarchate were there, praying

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not just for the fallen soldiers, but specifically

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for the families left behind. There was a specific

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award mentioned in the text that really caught

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my eye. Bishop Simeon awarded the soldiers posthumously.

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And the name of the award wasn't for valor or...

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for bravery, like you might expect. What was

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it? It was for sacrifice and love for Ukraine.

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That phrasing is incredibly telling. Sacrifice

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and love. It really feels like it circles back

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to the very beginning of our conversation today.

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Back to the equipment shortage. I think you're

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absolutely right, because why do you sign up

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to fight when you know there are no vests? Why

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do you voluntarily get on top of a BTR knowing

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you are entirely exposed to sniper fire? It isn't

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because you're a professional soldier blindly

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following orders, at least not in May 2014. No,

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it's because of that love component the award

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mentions. Love for your home, your block, your

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city. That raw emotion is what bridges the massive

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logistical gap when the state fails to provide.

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But, and I think this is the critical tension

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of this entire story, that love only gets you

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so far. The award honors the sacrifice, but the

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history of the 39th Battalion also serves as

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a stark warning about relying on that sacrifice.

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Exactly. Love doesn't stop shrapnel from an artillery

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shell. Sacrifice doesn't magically replace a

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secure, functioning supply chain. The men of

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the 39th Battalion did everything that was asked

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of them. They held the line. They endured the

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encirclement at Ilovaisk. But the severe friction

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between their willingness to serve and the state's

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initial inability to equip them, that is the

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real core of the story. It brings up a very provocative

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thought about modern warfare that I want to leave

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you with. We often fetishize the high -end technology,

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right? We talk about the drones, the satellite

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imagery, the precision missiles. The hardware.

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The hardware, yeah. But the story of Dnipro 2

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is a harsh reminder that at the very start of

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a sudden crisis, it is often just regular people

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in mismatched uniforms, driving civilian cars

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or underarmored BTRs, desperately trying to buy

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time for the slow bureaucracy to finally catch

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up. And the ultimate cost of buying that time

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is paid in human lives. Those 28 names on that

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memorial list are literally the price of the

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delay between a tender suspension in Kyiv and

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the eventual arrival of proper gear on the front

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line. So when you look at the legacy of the 39th,

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it isn't just a unit history. It's a profound

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lesson in the lethality of logistics. And a true

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testament to the fact that while professional

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armies fight wars, it is very often just local

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neighbors who are the first to defend their homes.

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The transformation from a group of guys sharing

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10 vests to a highly professional security battalion

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for an artillery brigade, it perfectly encapsulates

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the painful maturation of the entire Ukrainian

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defense effort. They learn those lessons in blood.

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A very sobering but necessary look at the reality

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on the ground. We're going to leave it right

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there for this deep dive. It's a story that starts

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with a bureaucratic spreadsheet error and ends

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on the alley of heroes. Thanks for taking the

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time to explore this with us. We'll catch you

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on the next one.
