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Welcome back to The Deep Dive. We are really

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glad you're here with us today. Good to be here.

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So I want to start this one a little differently

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than usual. I want to run a quick experiment.

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Oh? Yeah, just with you. Yes, you listening right

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now. Just clear your mind for a second. Take

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a breath. This sounds ominous. No, no, nothing

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scary, I promise. It's just a little word association.

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I want you to visualize something. When I say

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the word coach, What's the immediate high definition

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image that just pops into your head? Don't overthink

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it. Think I could guess what it is for like 90

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percent of people. Oh, absolutely. It's a whistle.

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It's a baseball cap. A guy in a windbreaker probably

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screaming at a referee from the sideline. Exactly.

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It's sports. The high school football coach or

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maybe, you know, Bill Belichick in a hoodie.

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Right. Or maybe if you run in corporate circles,

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the image is a little different. Maybe you're

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picturing a sharply dressed consultant in a glass

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walled meeting room drawing on a whiteboard.

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Corporate fixer. Yeah. Right. So we think sports

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or we think business. But I want to take us back

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much, much further. I want to take us on a bit

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of a linguistic journey. Okay. Because we aren't

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starting this deep dive on a football field.

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We aren't starting in a boardroom. We're going

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to start on a muddy, unpaved road in Hungary

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in the 16th century. I love this origin story.

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It's one of those etymological rabbit holes that

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just... completely changes how you view a whole

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profession. It reframes the entire concept. So

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paint the scene for us. We're in the 1500s, Central

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Europe. Right. So picture a small village in

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Hungary called Koks that's built K -O -C -S.

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Koks. The Koks wasn't a metropolis. It wasn't,

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you know, a center of government or anything.

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But it was a crucial waypoint between Vienna

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and Budapest. Oh, OK. And because the roads in

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the 16th century were, frankly, a disaster. Mud,

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ruts, rocks. Just a travel nightmare. A total

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nightmare. I mean, if you were traveling long

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distances, it was physically punishing. Yeah.

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But the wheelwrights and the craftsmen in this

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little village of Cox, they started to innovate.

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What did they do? They didn't just build wagons.

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They built a very specific type of carriage that

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was lighter, faster, and crucially, more comfortable.

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They figured out a suspension system. using steel

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springs or leather straps that made the ride

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way smoother than anything else on the road at

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the time. So they basically invented the luxury

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sedan of the 1500s. Essentially, yes. And these

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carriages became famous. They were known as a

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kutschi. Kutschi. Meaning of cocks or from cocks.

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And that word, because the technology was so

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superior, it just spreads across Europe. It moves

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into German as coochie, into French as cooch.

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And, you know, eventually it lands in English

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as coach. So fundamentally, when we use the word

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coach, we're using a noun. We're talking about

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a thing, a vehicle. We're talking about a literal

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vehicle. And this is the core metaphor that we

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really need to anchor this entire conversation

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on. Originally. A coach wasn't a person. It was

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a high quality piece of technology designed to

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transport a person from where they were point

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A to where they wanted to be point B. And to

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do it without, you know, jarring their bones

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to dust along the way. Exactly. To make the journey

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possible. And maybe even bearable. I love that.

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It really redefines the whole agency of the thing,

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doesn't it? If you think about the modern context,

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the coach isn't the one running the race. Right.

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The coach isn't playing the game. The coach is

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the vessel. Precisely. And if you look at the

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modern definition of coaching, I mean, whether

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we're talking about life coaching, executive

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coaching, or even e -sports coaching, which we'll

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get to, the fundamental mechanism is exactly

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the same. It's a vehicle. It's a vehicle. It's

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a process designed to transport a person from

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their current state to their desired state. So

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it's not about fixing a broken person. It's about

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movement. It's about transportation. That's the

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key distinction. It shifts the focus from what's

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wrong with you to where are you going. And that

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is what we're unpacking today. We've got a massive

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stack of research here. I mean, everything from

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the academic history of the term to the specific

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mechanics of how it works in the brain to the

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ethical wild west of the modern industry. Because

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let's be honest, it feels like everyone and their

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dog is a coach these days. It's definitely a

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boom industry. And that, of course, brings its

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own set of complications. It really is a meta

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profession, isn't it? That's a great term for

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it. A meta profession. Because once you start

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looking, you realize. Coaching is everywhere.

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It's in our schools, our hospitals, our offices,

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even our video games. So before we get lost in

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the weeds of all the specific applications, we

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need to establish a baseline. Agree. What exactly

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is coaching? Because I feel like... People use

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the word interchangeably with mentor or consultant

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or even therapist. That is the single most common

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point of confusion. And it's not just semantics.

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It's about what you're actually paying for. Right.

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So the source material defines coaching specifically

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as a form of development where an experienced

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person, the coach, supports a learner or a client

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in achieving a specific personal or professional

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goal. Okay, but. Isn't that what a mentor does?

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If I have a mentor at work, aren't they helping

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me achieve a goal? Not exactly. And the distinction

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is crucial if you want to understand the value

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proposition here. Mentoring tends to be more

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informal and it's almost always hierarchical.

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It involves someone who is further along on the

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same path. The sage on the stage model. Exactly.

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Yeah. A mentor says, I've walked this path. I've

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encountered these dragons. Here is how I slew

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them. You should try holding the sword the way

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I held it. I see. It's wisdom transfer. It's

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advice giving based on personal experience. Do

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what I did and you'll get what I got. Ideally,

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yes. Coaching, on the other hand, is completely

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different. A coach does not need to be an expert

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in your specific job. A coach doesn't need to

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have walked your path. Wait, really? If I'm a

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CEO, don't I want a coach who has been a CEO?

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Not necessarily. In fact, sometimes that actually

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gets in the way because the coach isn't there

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to give you the answers. The coach is there to

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use a specific set of tools to help you unlock

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the capacity to find your own answers. It's less

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about be like me and more about how do we get

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you where you want to go using your strengths.

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So if we go back to our transportation metaphor.

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The mentor gives you the map they used 20 years

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ago. The coach sits in the passenger seat and

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teaches you how to drive the car yourself. Regardless

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of the terrain. That is a very apt way to put

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it. The mentor provides the content. The coach

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provides the process. Exactly. And this matters

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to us, to you, the learner listening right now,

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because we live in an era of self -optimization.

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Everyone wants to be better, faster, smarter.

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Coaching has become a primary tool for that.

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But as we're going to see later. It's also a

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completely unregulated industry. It's a bit of

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a Wild West. Which is why we need to understand

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the mechanics. If you're going to hire a driver

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for this carriage, or if you're going to learn

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to drive it yourself, you better make sure you

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understand how the engine works. Correct. Okay,

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let's rewind the clock again. We talked about

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the Hungarian carriage, but here's the nugget

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that really surprised me in the research. Yeah.

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When the word coach first started being applied

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to a human being, an instructor, not a wagon,

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It wasn't in sports? No, it wasn't. It was in

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academics. That's right. We're looking in Oxford

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University slang around 1830. 1830. So, I mean,

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decades before organized sports leagues are really

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a thing. The term was used to describe a tutor

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who carried a student through an exam. Again,

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you see, it goes right back to that transport

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metaphor. A student is the passenger. The exam

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is the muddy, treacherous road. And the tutor

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is the coach. dragging them through the muck

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to the destination that paints a vivid picture

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it almost feels a little derogatory doesn't it

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like the student couldn't walk on their own It

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was a bit tongue in cheek. Yeah. It kind of implied

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that the student was wealthy enough to pay to

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be carried rather than doing the hard walking

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themselves. But then it evolves. It gets more

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intense. The sources mentioned Cambridge University

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and these mathematical wranglers between 1780

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and 1909. Yes. Now, mathematical wrangler sounds

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like a character from a fantasy novel. What on

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earth is a mathematical wrangler? This is a fascinating

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slice of educational history that's largely forgotten.

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The mathematical tripos at Cambridge was this

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incredibly grueling multi -day contest. Multi

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-day? Oh, yeah. It wasn't just a math test. It

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was a marathon of well -scripted problem solving.

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A marathon? Literally. It went on for days. And

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it was super competitive. The students were ranked

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publicly. The top student was the senior wrangler.

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It was a spectator sport. There was betting.

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There was betting involved. Betting on calculus.

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Betting on who would crack under the pressure.

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Because the stakes were incredibly high for their

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careers. Wow. And because the pressure was so

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intense, students started hiring these specialized

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tutors, these coaches, to prepare them. And what's

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interesting is that even back then in the 19th

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century, the core concept wasn't just teaching

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math. It was performance under pressure. So they

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weren't just teaching formulas. They were teaching

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mental endurance. Exactly. How to manage time.

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How to not panic when you see a problem you don't

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recognize. How to optimize your output when you're

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exhausted. That's the thread, isn't it? Whether

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it's a math test in 1850 or the Super Bowl in

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2026, the coach is there to optimize performance

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when the heat is on. Precisely. It wasn't until

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1861 that the term was first recorded in relation

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to sports. So the academic performance coach.

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actually predates the athletic coach by quite

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a margin. That is a brilliant trivia fact. We

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usually assume business and academics stole the

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term from sports, but sports actually stole it

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from the nerds at Cambridge. In a manner of speaking,

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yes. So, OK, we have this evolution, carriages

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to math tutors to sports. But when we look at

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the modern coaching industry, the stuff we see

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on LinkedIn, the life coaches, that seems to

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have a different flavor. It's less about passing

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a test and more about self -actualization. That

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brings us to the 20th century. Modern coaching

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is really a convergence of several different

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rivers. You have adult education theories. You

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have leadership studies. But the big one. The

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one that really gave coaching its current flavor

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is the human potential movement of the 1960s.

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The 60s. This is where things get a little more

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introspective. Right. You have things like large

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group awareness training or LGA. The most famous

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example mentioned in the source is Erhard Seminars

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Training, or EST, founded in 1971. EST, that's

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the stuff that was often parodied as people sitting

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in hotel ballrooms for hours, not allowed to

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go to the bathroom, being told they're responsible

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for their own reality, right? It was certainly

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controversial, and we can debate the ethics of

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those specific seminars, but it shifted the cultural

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conversation. It moved the focus from teaching

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skills, like the math coach, to... transforming

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the self. Transforming the self. Yes. It introduced

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this radical idea that you are not just a victim

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of your circumstances. You could actively design

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your life and your mindset. That is the DNA of

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modern life coaching. The idea that you have

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agency and you can change your way of being.

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But then just to complicate things, the academics

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come back in because transforming your being

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sounds a little woo -woo to a Fortune 500 company.

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Exactly. And that's why the year 2000 is a major

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milestone in our timeline. In January 2000, the

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University of Sydney offered the world's first

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unit of study in coaching psychology. That feels

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like the moment the field put on a suit and tie.

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It was a bid for legitimacy. It was an attempt

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to ground these practices in psychological theory

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and evidence -based approaches. It signaled that

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coaching was becoming a serious discipline, distinct

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from therapy and distinct from consulting. It

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said, this isn't just motivational speaking.

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There's science here. So let's look at that science.

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We've established the history. We've gone from

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carriages to Cambridge to the University of Sydney.

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Now, I want to open up the hood. What is the

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engine here? Let's do it. If a coach isn't just

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giving advice, if they aren't just saying, hey,

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buy this stock or dump that boyfriend, what are

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they actually doing? What's the technique? It

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really comes down to a specific communication

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toolkit. If you listen to a skilled coach, you'll

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notice they're doing very specific things. They

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use targeted restatements. They practice active

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listening. They use questioning and clarifying

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techniques. Targeted restatements. Can we unpack

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that? That sounds like they're just repeating

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what I say. If I say I'm sad and they say I hear

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you're sad, I'm going to feel like I'm talking

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to a parrot. It's more subtle than that. It's

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about reflecting your own thoughts back to you,

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but stripped of all the noise. It's holding up

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a mirror so you can hear what you actually believe

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versus what you think you should say. Okay, give

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me an example. Let's role play this for a second.

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Let's say I'm a client. Okay, what's your problem?

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OK. I'm just so overwhelmed at work. My boss

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is micromanaging everything. The deadlines are

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impossible. And I just feel like I'm drowning

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and I want to quit. OK. Now, a friend might say,

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oh, man, your boss is a jerk. Let's go get a

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beer. That's sympathy. Right. A mentor might

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say, here's how I handle a micromanager in my

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last job. That's advice. Yeah, and the coach.

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A coach might say something like, it sounds like

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you feel a complete lack of agency in your current

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environment. Oh. See? I didn't agree that your

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boss is a jerk. I didn't tell you to quit. I

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isolated the core feeling. Oh. Lack of agency.

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Yeah, that lands differently. It makes me stop

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and think, is it the work or is it the lack of

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control? Exactly. Now you're analyzing the problem

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rather than just venting. The goal isn't to give

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you the answer. The goal is to help you shift

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your perspective so you can discover a different

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approach. That's the key, right? The agency stays

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with the learner. Exactly. And because the core

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mechanism is perspective shifting and goal attainment,

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it applies to almost anything. That's why we

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call it a meta -profession. You can apply this

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framework to health, to politics, to spirituality,

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to social skills. Well, let's look at some of

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those applications because the list in our sources

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is... Honestly, staggering. The biggest one,

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obviously, is business. Business and executive

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coaching is a massive industry. It's a staple

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of human resource development now. And what are

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they actually focusing on in the boardroom? Is

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it just make more money? It's usually more nuanced.

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It's about personal effectiveness, behavioral

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changes, strategic thinking. They use tools like

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360 degree feedback. where everyone around you

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reviews your performance and psychometrics? I

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found it interesting that the sources mentioned

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this isn't just about hiring an expensive guru

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from the outside. No, and that's a big trend.

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Managers are now expected to act as coaches for

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their own teams. The idea is that a leader shouldn't

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just be a boss giving orders. They should be

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a coach developing their people. That seems really

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hard to pull off. I'm your boss, I decide your

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bonus, but also tell me your... deepest fears.

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It is a difficult balance, but the systematic

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reviews cited in the research are actually quite

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positive. They show that coaching can reduce

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workplace stress and, importantly, increase employee

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voice. Employee voice? What's that? That's the

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confidence employees feel to express their ideas.

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If you have a boss who listens and asks questions

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rather than just barking orders, you're going

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to feel safer speaking up. And in a knowledge

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economy, You need people to speak up. You need

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that innovation. That makes sense. If you're

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just a pair of hands executing orders, you aren't

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adding value. If you're a thinking partner, you

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are. Precisely. Now let's pivot to an application

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that I found incredibly compelling. ADHD coaching.

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This is a vital area. This concept was introduced

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in 1994 by psychiatrists Hallowell and Rady in

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their book Driven to Distraction. Now, we know

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ADHD involves deficits in executive function.

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But before we get to the coaching, can we just

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clarify executive function? We hear that term

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a lot. Okay, so think of the brain as an orchestra.

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You've got the violin section. That's your creativity.

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You've got the drums. That's your energy. The

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horns, that's your memory. Executive function

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is the conductor. The guy with the baton. Right.

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It's the part of the brain, mostly the frontal

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lobe, that says, okay, drums, quiet down, violins

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start now, horns, wait your turn. It handles

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prioritizing, time management, and emotional

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regulation. And in ADHD, the conductor is, what,

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on a coffee break? The conductor is inconsistent.

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Sometimes they're brilliant, sometimes they're

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asleep. So an ADHD coach acts as an external

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conductor. Okay. Or, as the source material beautifully

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puts it, an external mirror. An external mirror.

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I like that. Yes. People with ADHD often struggle

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to self -monitor. They might not realize how

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much time has passed. They might be working on

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a project for three hours and think it's been

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20 minutes. The coach provides that external

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reflection. They help the client develop workarounds.

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I love that term, workarounds. It admits that

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the brain works differently, and we aren't trying

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to fix it. We're trying to work with it. Exactly.

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It's not about curing the ADHD. It's about acknowledging

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the specific brain wiring and asking, OK, knowing

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this is how your brain works, knowing the conductor

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is inconsistent, what strategy can we build to

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get this project done? It's very pragmatic. It's

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engineering for the mind. It seems like in the

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health and wellness space generally, definitions

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really matter. I was reading through the notes

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on the National Society of Health Coaches, and

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they draw a pretty hard line between a health

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coach and a wellness coach. They do, and it's

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a distinction that really protects the consumer.

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According to their definitions, a health coach

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guides those with acute or chronic conditions,

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people who have high health risks. So if you

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have diabetes, heart disease, obesity, real clinical

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issues. Right. You need a health coach who understands

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the pathology, whereas a wellness coach is for

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the otherwise healthy individual who... just

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wants to maintain their status or get a little

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fitter. That's a really important distinction.

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You don't want a general wellness coach who maybe

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took a weekend seminar trying to manage a complex

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diabetic nutrition plan. Absolutely not. That's

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dangerous. And then we have financial coaching.

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And again, we have to separate the coach from

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the advisor. This is similar to the mentoring

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distinction. A financial advisor usually sells

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products, stocks, insurance, portfolios. They

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manage the assets. Buy low, sell high. Right.

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A financial coach focuses on behavior. They focus

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on the person holding the wallet. So the coach

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is the one asking, why do you stress buy shoes

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every Friday? Exactly. They focus on spending

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habits, debt reduction, and fiscal discipline.

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It's about your relationship with money, not

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just where you park it. I want to jump to the

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modern niche stuff because this is where you

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see just how adaptable this meta profession is.

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Esports coaching. This is a rapidly growing field.

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I mean, 20 years ago, if you told someone you

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were a video game coach, they would have laughed

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you out of the room. But now look at something

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like League of Legends. The complexity of these

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games rivals traditional sports. The coaches

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here are doing exactly what sports coaches do.

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They plan strategies. They're on voice chat during

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the pick -and -ban phase. Explain that for the

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non -gamers. Pick -and -ban. So before the match

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starts, each team takes turns picking their characters

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and banning the characters they don't want the

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other team to play. There are over 160 characters.

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The combinations are in the millions. It's high

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-speed chess. And the coach is there to manage

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that strategy. Yes. They're analyzing the opponent's

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data. suggesting counterpicks, and crucially,

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managing the team's emotional state. It's high

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performance cognitive coaching. It's just wild

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to think about the evolution from the Hungarian

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carriage driver in the mud to the guy on a headset

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advising a team on which digital champion to

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ban in a global tournament. But the function

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is the same. Here's where we are. Here's the

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victory condition. Here's how we get there. And

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then, of course, we have baiting coaches. Yes.

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Applying coaching principles to personal and

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business relationships. Again, focusing on skills,

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perspective, and specific goals. And one more

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distinction I want to hit before we move on.

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Homework coaching versus tutoring. This ties

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back to the ADHD point. It does. A tutor teaches

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you what to learn. Chemistry, history, French.

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A homework coach teaches you how to learn. The

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process. The process. Study skills, organization,

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time management. It's a process focus versus

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a content focus. Okay, so we've painted a pretty

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rosy picture so far. Coaching helps you organize

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your brain, advance your career, win video games,

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get fit. It sounds like a miracle drug, but we

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have to talk about the elephant in the room.

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We do, and it's a big elephant. This industry

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is seemingly everywhere, but it is also, as we

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mentioned, a wild west. That is the major critique.

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And it's a valid one. In many jurisdictions,

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including the U .S. and the U .K., anyone can

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wake up tomorrow morning, print a business card

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that says life coach and start charging clients.

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There's no bar exam. There's no medical board.

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None. And this leads to several issues. The first

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is a philosophical one. The criticism that life

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coaching in particular is commercializing friendships.

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Commercializing friendships, that hits hard.

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The skeptics argue that the support a life coach

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offers, listening, encouraging, helping you sort

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through your problems, is what a good friend

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used to do for free. By monetizing it, are we

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eroding our natural social bonds? Are we saying

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that we're so lonely we have to pay someone to

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care about our goals? That's a heavy thought.

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But on the flip side, sometimes you need an unbiased

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opinion. A friend wants you to be safe. A coach

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wants you to grow. That is the counter argument.

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But there's also a safety question. Critics argue

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it is akin to psychotherapy, but without the

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guardrails. This is the most dangerous area.

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To be a counseling psychologist in California,

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for example, the sources note you need 3 ,000

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hours of supervised professional experience.

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3 ,000 hours. And to be a life coach. Zero. Zero.

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So you have people potentially dealing with deep

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-seated trauma, anxiety, or depression who are

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not trained to handle it. A coach is supposed

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to be forward -looking. How do we achieve the

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goal? But if a client is blocked by past trauma,

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an untrained coach might try to push through

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it when they really should be referring out to

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a therapist. And then there's the business model

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itself. I was reading about the pyramid implication.

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Yes. This is the critique that the demand for

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actual life coaching services is relatively low

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in some markets. So how do you make money? You

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teach other people how to be coaches. Exactly.

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Critics suggest the most profitable part of the

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industry isn't coaching clients. It's selling

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certificates to would -be coaches. It creates

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a feedback loop where everyone is coaching everyone

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on how to be a coach. That is concerning. But

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it's not all doom and gloom, right? There are

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people trying to fix this. Absolutely. The industry

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is aware of these reputation risks. There's a

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strong push for professionalization. In February

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2016, the Association for Coaching and the European

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Mentoring and Coaching Council launched a global

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code of ethics. So there are standards. There

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are, but the catch is it remains self -regulatory.

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Membership in these bodies is optional. You don't

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have to join them to practice. So effective coaches

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are defined by their integrity and their credibility,

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but it is entirely up to the consumer to you,

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the listener, to verify that. The law won't do

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it for you. You have to check their credentials.

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You have to see if they're part of these ethical

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bodies. You have to ask about their training.

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So let's bring this all the way back. We started

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in the village of Cokes. We watch this concept

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travel through the intense math exams of Cambridge,

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explode during the human potential movement of

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the 60s, and land in the modern corporate boardroom

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and the e -sports arena. It's been quite a journey.

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And the takeaway seems to be this. Coaching is

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an incredibly powerful tool. It really is that

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carriage. It can move you from stagnation to

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success, but it relies heavily on the skill and

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the integrity of the driver. That's the perfect

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summary. A carriage with a bad wheel or a driver

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who doesn't know the way isn't going to get you

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anywhere. But a well -built vehicle with an expert

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guide, that can change your life. So as we wrap

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up this deep dive, we want to leave you with

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a thought, a question to mull over. We're seeing

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coaching expand into every single aspect of life.

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How we date, how we study, how we manage our

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money, how we play games. It feels like we're

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outsourcing our executive function. That's the

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question. As we build this massive infrastructure

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of coaches for everything, are we losing the

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ability to self -regulate? Are we forgetting

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how to be our own drivers? Or are we finally

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just admitting that humans were never meant to

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do it alone and we're finally building the support

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structures we've always needed? Are we becoming

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dependent or are we becoming supported? That

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is the question. Indeed. And if you're looking

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to hire a coach, here's our actionable advice.

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Look for the transportation value. Are they actually

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moving you forward or are they just keeping the

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wheels spinning? And please check those credentials.

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Because the barrier to entry is low. Your due

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diligence needs to be high. Thanks for listening

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to The Deep Dive. We'll see you on the next one.

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Safe travels.
