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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are doing

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something a little different. Yeah, definitely

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not our usual territory. We aren't looking at

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a tech giant. We aren't breaking down a new scientific

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discovery. No, political movements. Nope. We

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are spinning the globe, setting the time circuits

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back to 2009, and dropping ourselves right into

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the middle of Caracas, Venezuela. But not just

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anywhere in Caracas. No, we're going to high

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school. Specifically, an urban high school that

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serves as the battlefield for the high -stakes,

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high -emotion world of the juvenile telenovela

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Que Classe de Amor. Which translates to What

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Kind of Love? And before you tune out thinking

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this is just about, you know... teen angst and

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prom dates. Hear me out. Right. We've pulled

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the production notes, the casting sheets, all

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of it. Yeah. And what we found isn't just a soap

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opera. It's this fascinating case study in how

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media builds social hierarchies. It really is.

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We're looking at the classic Casanova versus

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nerd trope. But with this very specific late

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2000s Latin American energy. It's a total time

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capsule. And to set the stage, you have to look

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at the pedigree. This wasn't some small indie

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project. No, not at all. This was produced by

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Venivision. with BCC Producciones, created by

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Benjamin Cohen. And Venevision is, I mean, it's

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a titan in the industry. So this was a machine.

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It was designed to capture a youth demographic.

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A demographic that was becoming a massive cultural

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force in the region right at that time. Exactly.

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So for the next 15 minutes, consider us your

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cultural anthropologists. We're going to break

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down the warring factions, the incredibly literal

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character names. Oh, they're very literal. And

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my absolute favorite part, how a boy band serves

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as the primary villain. It's a unique narrative

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device for sure. We'll definitely get to the

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singing villains. Okay, good. But first, we should

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probably establish the mission for this deep

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dive. We're just recapping a show. Right. We're

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exploring how these stories use music and rivalry

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to, you know, drive a whole narrative forward.

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Precisely. So let's start with the setting. The

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source material just calls it an urban high school.

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Yeah, which sounds simple enough. But looking

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at the plot summaries, it feels less like a school

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and more like a pressure cooker. That's the perfect

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word for it. Well, that's the intent of the genre.

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The notes describe it as a place filled with

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adolescents experiencing specific emotional extremes.

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Joys, sorrows, love, triumphs. All of it. The

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writers aren't interested in a realistic depiction

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of, like, passing a geography test. No, the school

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is a stage. every single hallway interaction

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is high drama. And that performance is organized

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into a kind of cast system that is delightfully

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unsubtle. It really is. In American shows, you

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get these vague cliques, right? The jocks, the

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plastic. The skaters, yeah. Here, the show just

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explicitly names the two main factions. No nuance.

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First up... Los Populartes. The popular ones.

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Yeah. Doesn't get much clearer than that. You

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know exactly who they are and where they sit

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in the cafeteria. And the leader of Los Populartes

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is our protagonist, Diego Padilla, played by

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Andres Gomez. The character breakdown on him

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is fascinating. It doesn't just say he's cool.

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It calls him a Casanova. And that's a key distinction.

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His defining trait isn't that he plays a sport

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or has the best car. Right. His power comes from

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the fact that he makes all the girls fall in

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love with him. He's at the top of the food chain

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because he's desired. Which makes the opposing

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faction so much more interesting. If you have

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the Casanovas, you need a counterbalance. And

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this show gives us Las Nerdas. The nerds. Again,

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the show is not trying to hide its archetypes.

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No, it's putting them in neon lights. And honestly,

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I appreciate the directness. It saves time. It

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does. And the leader of Las Nerdas is Alejandra

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Martinez, played by Asha Stambouli. And she is

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the classic new girl. The notes describe her

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as brilliant and clever. So you have this setup,

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right? The force of social dominance, Diego,

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versus the force of intellect, Alejandra. It's

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the unstoppable force meets the immovable object.

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Sort of, yeah. But usually in this kind of story,

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you know, think Grease. The whole thing kicks

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off with romance. Love at first sight. The cool

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guy sees the new girl. She takes off her glasses.

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Boom. But that's not what happens here, is it?

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It's much more transactional. It is. The love

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at first sight thing is totally subverted. Diego

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doesn't approach Alejandra because he likes her.

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or thinks she's secretly beautiful. He approaches

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her because he's failing his classes. He needs

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her help with his studies. I love that. It completely

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flips the power dynamic from the start. The king

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of the school actually depends on the outcast

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to survive. Precisely. It disrupts the hierarchy

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in episode one. He has to go to Las Nerdas for

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academic survival. And the source material says

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she slowly conquers Diego's heart. Yeah. It's

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not a lightning bolt. It's a slow burn that comes

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out of study sessions. It implies that her intellect

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is what actually seduces the Casanova. But this

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is a telenovela. It ran for 83 episodes. Right.

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You can't just have study dates for that long.

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You need friction. You need obstacles. And the

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biggest obstacle is usually the current girlfriend.

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Enter Stephanie Mendoza, played by Mayela Caldera.

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And the production notes are, well, they aren't

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very nice to Stephanie. They're pretty brutal.

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She's described as the prettiest and most spoiled

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girl in the school. But from a writing perspective,

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she serves a really critical function. The text

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says she's the complete opposite of the type

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of girl Diego should be with. So she represents

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the status quo. Exactly. Stephanie is the anchor

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keeping him tied to Los Popularis. She's the

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superficial popularity he's supposed to grow

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out of. If he stays with her, he stays stagnant.

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If he chooses Alejandra, he evolves. It's a very

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moralistic setup. Okay, so we have the jealous

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girlfriend archetype. But this is where the show

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takes a turn into something really special. We

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need to talk about the main villain because Stephanie

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is an obstacle, but she's not the antagonist.

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That title belongs to a guy with maybe the most

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ominous nickname in high school history, Alon

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Camacho. A .K .A. Oligren. Which translates to

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scorpion. You know, subtlety was not the goal

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in the writer's room. I'm just saying, if a guy

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in homeroom introduces himself as the Scorpion,

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maybe don't lend him your pencil. That would

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be a good call. But what drives him, it's not

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just, you know, evil for evil's sake. No, it's

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actually pretty grounded in teenage angst. It

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is. The source points to this complex web of

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jealousy. So Alan is jealous of Diego's popularity.

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He wants to be the king. But the real kicker.

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The real kicker is that he's secretly in love

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with Stephanie, the girlfriend we just talked

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about. The one who rejected him. So he hates

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the guy who has the girl he wants. A classic

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triangle, but twisted. But what really distinguishes

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Alon isn't his motivation. It's his method. Right.

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He belongs to a group called Los Alacranes, the

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Scorpions. And the source material notes something

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really specific about this group. They aren't

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fighters. They aren't delinquents. They're noted

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specifically as being composed of singers. Wait,

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hold on. I want to make sure I'm getting this

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right. The villain gang is a boy band. Essentially,

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yes. The antagonism is expressed through performance.

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That is incredible. It implies that the way to

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destroy your enemy isn't to fight them behind

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the gym, but to out -sing them. I'm going to

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ruin your life, but first let me hit this high

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note and do a spin. The stakes are serious for

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them, though. Ellen sets a trap. He does. The

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plot summary says he sets a trap for Alejandra,

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but the goal is to completely ruin Diego's image

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and reputation in this school. And reputation

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is everything in high school. It's currency.

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Exactly. If Diego's the leader of Los Populares,

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his image is his currency. Alan's going right

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for his bank account. And doing it through a

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group of singers suggests that public performance

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humiliation, diss tracks, that's the weapon of

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choice here. Well, let's pull on that thread,

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the music. Yes, let's. Because looking at the

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musical themes section of our records, music

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isn't just background noise in this show. Not

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at all. It's like the entire narrative is built

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around a musical landscape. When you look at

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the track list, you see this very distinct use

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of leitmotifs. So specific songs are assigned

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to specific characters? Specific dynamics, yeah.

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It cues the audience on how to feel about a scene,

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like a musical map of the relationships. Okay,

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give me an example. The main theme of the show

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is the title track, Kiklasta Amor. And notice

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who performs it. Manuel Larad and Aisha Stambouli?

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Wait a minute. Manuel Arad plays Alain, the villain's

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scorpion, and Aisha plays Alejandra, the heroine.

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Right. So the villain and the hero are singing

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the theme song together. It's a fascinating meta

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layer, right? It blurs the line between character

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and performer, which is really common in this

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genre. So while they're enemies in the plot,

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they're partners in the spectacle. Exactly. But

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look at the love themes. Alejandra and Diego,

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they don't get one song, they get two. Quindiria

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and Masala. Quindiria. Who would have said? That

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fits the popular guy dates nerd girl vibe perfectly.

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Right. Who would have guessed we'd end up together?

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The song title tells you the plot, and it trickles

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down to the supporting cast. I see a song here,

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Mi Niña Bonita, for characters named Tita and

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Manu. Then there's Enamorarte de El for Andrena

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and Rafa and Locoporti. For Desire and Felix.

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So if you hear the song, you know who is hooking

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up or breaking up. And you have to remember that

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diegetic element. Since Los Alatranes are singers

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in the story, music is happening inside the reality

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of the show. Plus, the lead actress, Aisha Stambouli,

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has solo tracks listed. Yeah, Estevez and Mi

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Central, which is used in the very first chapter.

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So Alejandra isn't just a nerd. She's a nerd

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with a solo career. It creates this interesting

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duality. In the plot, she's the academic outsider,

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but the production elevates her through music

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to be the star. She has the voice. I love that.

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OK, let's zoom out a bit. We've got the plot,

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the singing villains. Let's talk about the people

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who made this thing. Eighty three episodes is

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a serious commitment. It is. The show ran from

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April 20th, 2009 to August 14th of the same year.

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That is a daily grind. And to sustain that, you

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had a writing team led by Benjamin Cohen with

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Anna Teresa Sosa, Veronica Alvarez and Gamis

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Perez. And directed by Grazia D 'Angelo and Manuel

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Diaz Casanova. It takes a village to produce

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a daily telenovela at that pace. Speaking of

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a village, I have to give a shout out to some

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of the supporting cast names listed here. I mean,

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we talked about Alacran, but there's a character

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named Marcel Jimenez who has the nickname El

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Distripedor. The Ripper. In a high school show.

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The Ripper. I desperately need to know if he

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was a horror movie fan or if he just like aggressively

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graded papers. Or maybe he was just really messy

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with his notebook paper. It definitely sets a

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tone. And then you have Tita. played by Giannina

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Alves. And this one is my favorite, a special

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guest character, Professor Narciso, played by

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Samir Bazzi, who is listed with the nickname

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El Papi Profe. Which, yeah, roughly translates

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to the daddy professor, the potty professor.

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The Papi Profe. Even the faculty isn't safe from

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the melodrama. It just reinforces that idea of

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the school as a stage for desire. Nobody is just

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doing their job. Everyone is part of the romantic

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web. And presiding over all this chaos, the Scorpions,

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the Rippers, the Papi Profes, is the principal,

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la directora Ana Maria Sosa. Someone has to try

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and manage that circus. Absolutely. Now, you

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mentioned earlier this show is part of a legacy.

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When we look at the list of Venovision telenovelas,

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where does this one fit in? It's important to

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see the bigger picture. Venovision has this long,

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storied history. I mean, they've been making

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telenovelas since the 1960s. Right, like Luchasita

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in 1967. And then this massive explosion of content

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in the 80s and 90s shows like Ligia Elena, Karasusea.

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But those were largely adult melodramas. About

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wealthy families fighting over an inheritance,

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that kind of thing. Exactly. But in the late

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2000s, you see this trend shift. Just before...

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Que Clase de Amor. From 2007 to 2009, there was

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a show called Somos Tuyo. It's you and me. And

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that was a massive youth hit. It was basically

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the Venezuelan high school musical. So Que Clase

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de Amor was likely riding that wave. It seems

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so. It launched in 2009, right as the other show

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was ending its run. It was part of this whole

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cohort of 2009 debuts. Like Alma and Dammable

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and Los Misterios del Amor. Vanavision was clearly

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firing on all cylinders, trying to capture that

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youth demographic they primed. They realized

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teenagers were a lucrative market. It's interesting

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to see how those genres cycle. It really mirrors

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what was happening in the U .S. with Disney Channel

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around the same time. And the legacy continues.

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If you look at the bottom of the source list,

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under the 2020s, there's a 2023 title called

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Dramaticus. The machine is still running. So

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what does this all mean? We've got a study date

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turn romance sabotaged by a boy band and a school

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with the ripper and the poppy prof. Right. Is

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it just campy fun or is there a deeper takeaway

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here? I think Kate Klostea Moore. represents

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this moment where the genre really understood

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that school is just a stage. It blends traditional

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telenovela structures with the energy of a musical.

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It acknowledges that for teenagers, identity

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is a performance. It really is. I mean, when

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you're 16, you're performing constantly. You

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have the popularas performing coolness. The alacranes

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are literally performing songs to assert their

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dominance. Even the nerdas. are performing intelligence.

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The show uses these big, exaggerated tropes to

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talk about how we define ourselves when we're

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young. And it does it with a soundtrack. Always

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with a soundtrack. The emotions are just too

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big to be spoken. They have to be sung. So we've

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gone from a tutoring session to a full -blown

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sociological analysis of Venezuelan teen media.

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Not bad for a deep dive. That's what we do. Before

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we wrap up, I want to leave you, the listener,

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with one final thought. We talked about how rigid

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the groups are. The populars, the nerds, the

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scorpions. Very structured. It seems that way.

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But remember the inciting incident. The leader

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of the populars realizes he cannot survive without

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the help of the nerds. It completely disrupts

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the hierarchy from the very beginning. Exactly.

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So here's the thought. In a story where the villains

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are singers and the cool kids are academically

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dependent on the outcasts, is the social hierarchy

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even real? Or is it just a performance everyone

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agreed to put on? That's a great question. If

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the king needs a tutor to pass 10th grade, is

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he really the king? Or is he just the guy with

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the best hair? It suggests the whole thing is

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fragile, held together only by agreement. Something

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to think about. Thank you for joining us on this

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trip back to 2009. It was a pleasure to explore

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this world with you. We'll catch you on the next

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deep dive. Stay curious.
