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You know, there's this really comforting idea

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that classical music is somehow fixed, carved

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in marble. Right. You go to a concert, you open

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the program and it says Bach, orchestral suite

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number three. And you just assume that's it.

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That's exactly what he wrote, what he called

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it. It's a very stabilizing thought, isn't it?

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Yeah. That there's a definitive version of these

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masterpieces just sitting in a vault somewhere.

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Yeah. But when it comes to Johann Sebastian Bach.

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and specifically these famous orchestral suites,

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that marble is actually, well, it's more like

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wet clay. That is exactly what we're unpacking

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today. We're looking at four of the most famous

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works in the Baroque repertoire. I mean, we're

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talking about music that includes the air on

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the G string and the batonry. Household names,

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really. And we're going to find out that almost

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everything we think we know about them might

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just be wrong. Oh, absolutely. Wrong names, quite

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possibly the wrong instruments, and in some cases...

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entirely different purposes than what we hear

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today. So for this deep dive, we've got a stack

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of research here. We're talking manuscript analysis

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from scholars like Joshua Rifkin, historical

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context, all of it. We're going to peel back

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those layers. And I think the very first layer

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we have to chip away at is the name itself. Okay.

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Because if you had walked up to Bach in Leipzig,

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say around 1730, and asked to hear his orchestral

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suite, he probably would have just looked at

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you with total confusion. He didn't use the word

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suite at all. No, not for these. Yeah. In the

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manuscripts, Bach labeled these works as overtures.

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Which is confusing for a modern listener, because

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when I think overture, I think of, you know,

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the intro to an opera, the curtain raiser. Exactly.

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And that's one meaning. But in Baroque Germany...

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The word had this kind of dual meaning. It was

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almost like a part that stands for the whole.

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So how does one movement end up being the name

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for the whole collection? Well, the first movement

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of all these pieces was in a very specific style

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called a French overture. It has a really rigid

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form. It always starts with a slow, majestic

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section. Lots of dotted rhythms. You know that

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sound. It's very jagged and regal. Right. Very

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precise. Almost jerky. Yes. Then it just bursts

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into this. fast fugal section where all the instruments

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are kind of chasing each other. And then finally

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it comes back to that slow majesty at the end.

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So that first huge movement is the ouverture.

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Right. But because that opening movement was

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so massive, I mean, it's usually the longest

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and most complex piece by far, the Germans just

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started calling the entire collection of dances

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that followed it an ouverture as well. Huh. So

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it's like calling an entire album track one just

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because the first song is 10 minutes long. That's

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a great way to put it. It was shorthand, really.

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It signaled to the audience, this is a big collection

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of dances in the prestigious French style. And

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that French label was a big deal at the time.

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Oh, huge. French culture was the absolute height

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of sophistication in Germany. If you were writing

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music in the French style, you were signaling

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that you were cosmopolitan, that you were elite.

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So Bach was being trendy. He was definitely tapping

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into a very popular genre. But here's the thing

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that really jumped out at me from the research.

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We only have four of these from Bach. Just four.

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That feels surprisingly low. We always think

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of Bach as this machine who wrote a cantata every

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week for years. He was prolific, for sure. But

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in this specific genre, he's a statistical anomaly.

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I mean, look at his contemporary, Georg Philip

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Tellemann. Who was arguably more famous than

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Bach back then. Absolutely. And Tellemann left

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us about 135 of these suites. 135. And scholars

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think he wrote vastly more that have been lost.

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Christoph Graupner left 85. Johann Friedrich

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Fasch left nearly 100. So Bach's four. They're

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rare birds. Do we have any idea why? Was he just

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not that into them? Well, Bach was almost always

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writing for a specific job. He wrote church music

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for the church, keyboard music for teaching.

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These suites likely didn't fit his day -to -day

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work as neatly as they did for someone like Telemann,

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who was running public concerts. So they weren't

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written as a set then. Right. That's a big misconception,

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isn't it? We buy the CD, the orchestral suites.

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And assume he wrote them one through four, like

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he did with the Brandenburg Concerto. Exactly.

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But the Brandenburgs were a single collection,

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basically a job application. These four suites

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are from completely different years, roughly

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1724 to 1731. Different instruments, probably

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for different groups. We just lump them together

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because, you know, it's convenient for recording.

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Okay, so let's zoom in on the most famous one,

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suite number three in D major. This is the big

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one. Trumpets, drums. It's got that huge celebratory

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energy. And of course, it contains the second

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movement that literally everyone on the planet

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knows. The air. The air and the G string. Right.

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And this is a classic deep dive fact, but it's

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so important. Bach never, ever called it that.

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No, that title is a ghost from the future. It

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comes from the late 19th century, well over 100

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years after Bach died. A German violinist named

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August Wilhelm decided to arrange the movement.

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And just to show off, he transposed it down a

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step so he could play the entire melody on just

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one string of the violin. The lowest string,

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the G string. It gives it this incredibly rich,

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throaty, romantic sound. And that, well, that

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remix, if you want to call it that, became so

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famous it totally eclipsed the original. It's

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wild because in Bach's version... The melody

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is woven into the first violins. It's much lighter.

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It floats. It's far more transparent. But, you

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know, there's actually a bigger controversy with

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suite number three than just the name of the

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slow movement. This is where we get into the

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heavy scholarship. This is where we get into

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Joshua Rifkin's theory. Right. So Rifkin is a

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brilliant and sometimes controversial musicologist.

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And he looked at the original sources for suite

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number three and noticed something odd. The physical

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paper. The parts from the 1730s, they're a patchwork.

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A patchwork? How? Well, you have some parts there

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in Bach's own handwriting, specifically the first

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violin and the continuo. And the continuo is

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the bass line, right? Cello and harpsichord,

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usually. Exactly. The rhythm section. So Bach

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wrote those parts himself. But then the trumpet,

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the timpani, and the oboe parts, they were copied

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out by his son, C .P .E. Bach. And the other

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string parts were copied by a student. Okay.

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So what does that suggest? Rifkin argues that

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this separation means the piece wasn't originally

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for a full orchestra at all. So what was it then?

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He thinks the original version was for strings

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only. No trumpets, no drums. That completely

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changes the feeling of the piece. We think of

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number three as this pompous military entrance

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of the king kind of music. And Rifkin is saying

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that entire layer might just be an afterthought.

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That Bach took an existing string piece and just

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dressed it up later for a special occasion. If

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you strip it back, It becomes much more intimate.

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It's like finding out a heavy metal song started

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its life as an acoustic ballad. That is a perfect

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analogy. And we see this pattern of retrofitting

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music even more clearly in the other D major

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suite, number four. The other big one with the

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trumpets. Yes. And in this case, the evidence

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for him recycling the music is undeniable. Bach

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actually took the first movement of suite number

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four. and turned it into the opening chorus of

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Christmas cantata. Cantata 110. Unser Mund sei

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voll Lachens. Our mouths be full of laughter.

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A fitting text for Christmas. It's incredibly

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joyous. And to match that text, Bach added a

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full choir, trumpets, and drums. So Rifkin argues

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that the orchestral suite version we know today

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might actually be what we'd call a backport.

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Bach liked the Christmas version so much, he

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decided to update the instrumental suite to match

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it. So the original might have been strings,

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then he makes the cantata with drums, and then

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he goes back and adds the drums to the suite.

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Very likely. And it just shows that for Bach,

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a piece of music wasn't some finished monument.

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It was. It was functional material. You could

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expand it, contract it, repaint it, depending

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on the occasion. Which brings us to the biggest

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mystery of all. Suite number two in B minor.

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Ah, the flute suite. Or so we think. This is

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the one that ends with the Badenery. Which I

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should say for any of our listeners in the UK

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might trigger some deep -seated nostalgia. Right.

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It was the theme music for ITV school's morning

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programs in the 80s and 90s. Instantly recognizable.

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Nothing says Baroque masterpiece like waiting

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for a science documentary to start in middle

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school. But The Badinery is famous for being

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a flute showpiece. It's incredibly fast. It is.

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The word itself means jesting or joking. It's

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a sprint. But here's the twist. There's a very

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strong school of thought that says this music

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was not written for the flute at all. This is

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one of my favorite debates in all of musicology.

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It's like musical forensics. Okay, lay it out

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for us. The manuscript we have is from around

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1738. But there are clues on the page, literal

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graphical clues, that suggest Bach was copying

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from an older document. And the smoking gun is

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a typo? A typo, or maybe a correction. On the

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title page, where Bach writes the word traversier,

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which means transverse flute, it looks suspiciously

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like he wrote the letter T over an existing letter

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V. V4 violin. That's the theory. That he started

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to write violino, realized he was making a flute

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version this time, and corrected himself. Okay,

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but a typo is one thing. Is there any actual

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musical evidence? There is. A lot of it. First,

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the key. The suite is in B minor, which is a

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bit awkward for a broke flute. But if you transpose

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it down to A minor, it fits the violin perfectly.

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And more importantly... There are techniques

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in the music that just scream violin. You're

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talking about bariolage. Exactly. Bariolage is

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a French term for a bowing technique, where you

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rapidly alternate between a static note on an

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open string and a moving melody on another string.

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For a violinist, it's a very natural rocking

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motion. Like patting your head and rubbing your

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stomach, but with a bow? Yes. And on a violin,

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it sounds brilliant because that open string

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rings out with a lot of resonance. On a flute?

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It's incredibly awkward. You have to jump these

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wide intervals with your breath and it just,

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it sounds breathless, not resonant. So Rifkin's

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theory is that this was originally a lost violin

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concerto in A minor. That's the leading theory,

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yes. But the plot thickens. Because another musician,

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the brilliant oboist, Gonzalo X Ruiz, has looked

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at all the same evidence and said, I don't think

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it's violin either. I think it's oboe. Oboe!

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Why oboe? Ruiz points out the range. If this

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were a violin piece, you would absolutely expect

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the soloist to use the G string, the lowest,

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richest string. But the music, it curiously avoids

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that entire low register. I see. It stays in

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a range that perfectly matches the Baroque oboe.

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And Ruiz argues that the figuration, the specific

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shape of the fast notes, looks exactly like the

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writing in Bach's other oboe works. This is amazing.

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So when we hear a flautist struggling through

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the botanury, we might be watching them play

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a translation of a translation. And yet it works.

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That's the genius of it. Even if it was originally

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for violin or oboe, the flute version is spectacular.

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It has this fragile, breathless quality that

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really suits that jesting character. There is

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a middle ground here, too, isn't there? The flautist

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Stephen Zahn has an idea. Right. He's the diplomat

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in this argument. He suggests that the original

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A minor version might have been... generic enough

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to be played by either a violin or a flute from

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the very beginning. A sort of choose -your -own

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-adventure solo part. You've covered suites two,

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three, and four. What about number one in C major?

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Is it just as controversial? It's actually the

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most stable of the bunch. It's scored for woodwinds

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and strings, no trumpets, and it feels the most

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authentically French. It's like a sampler platter

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of French dances. You get a four -lane, a javotte,

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a passe -pie. So it's the most straightforward.

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If you want to know what this overture genre

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was supposed to sound like to a German audience

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in the 1720s, I'd say start with number one.

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But even if the original is stable, the life

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of these pieces after Bach died was anything

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but. We mentioned Wilhelm Schur and his air on

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the G string, but it wasn't just him. No, not

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at all. The Romantics loved this music, but they

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felt the orchestration was too thin for their

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huge concert halls. Gustav Mahler, of all people,

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arranged suites two and three. Mahler editing

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Bach. That feels a bit sacrilegious to modern

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ears. To us, maybe. But to him, he was bringing

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Bach into the modern age. He even combined movements

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from the different suites to create a new super

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suite. And here's my favorite image. When Mahler

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toured with the New York Philharmonic, he would

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conduct these arrangements from the keyboard.

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Mahler on a harpsichord. Yes. But in true Mahler

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fashion, he reportedly played the continual part

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with such ferocity that he was basically conducting

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the entire orchestra with his chords. Wow. And

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then you have composers like Giuseppe Martucci

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in Italy turning them into solo piano pieces.

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Which just proves the durability of the musical

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ideas, right? You can play them with a massive

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Mahler orchestra, strip them down to a single

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piano, play the flute part on an oboe. The core

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logic of the music holds up. It really challenges

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this modern idea of the definitive recording.

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Completely. We're obsessed with authenticity

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today. We want to hear exactly what Bach heard.

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But what this deep dive really shows is that

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even Bach didn't just hear one thing. He heard

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strings. Then he heard trumpets. He heard a violin.

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Then he heard a flute. The music was alive. It's

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like these manuscripts are just snapshots of

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a moving target. That's a beautiful way to put

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it. They're freeze frames of a process. So here's

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a thought to leave you with. We revere these

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four suites as these great pillars of the orchestral

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repertoire. But if Bach was an outlier who only

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wrote four while Telemann was writing over 100,

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and if the most famous flute solo might have

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been for a violin, and the most famous orchestral

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error was originally for a chamber group. Then

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you have to ask yourself, are we loving Bach?

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Or are we loving the specific accidents of history

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that allowed these particular versions to survive

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on paper? If a fire had happened in a different

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library in 1750, our entire concept of the perfect

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orchestral suite could be completely different.

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It almost certainly would be. Thanks for listening

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to this deep dive. Go listen to the suites again

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and see if you can hear the ghost of the violin

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in that flute solo. Enjoy the music.
