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Welcome back to the deep dive. You know, there's

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this specific kind of anxiety that kicks in every

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four years in the United States. Oh, yeah. It's

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usually what, 7 .0 p .m. on a Tuesday in November.

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And you're just refreshing a Web page, staring

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at a screen, and you're just desperate for a

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sign. You're looking for that crystal ball. It's

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the holy grail of political science. Exactly.

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We want certainty in a process that is. I mean,

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it's inherently chaotic. And because of that,

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we tend to obsess over patterns. We look at bellwether

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counties in Ohio or we stare at the blue wall

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or we, you know, we analyze diner interviews

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and swing states. We convince ourselves that

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if we just look at this one spot, we can unlock

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the code for the whole country. It's just human

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nature. Yeah. We hate randomness. We want to

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believe there's a signal hidden in all the noise.

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Well, today we are going to talk about the granddaddy

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of all political signals. It's a phrase you have

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almost certainly heard. even if you're not a

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political janky. It sounds like this piece of

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ancient folklore. As Maine goes, so goes the

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nation. It really does have a nice ring to it.

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Sounds so authoritative, like Maine is some kind

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of mystical oracle tucked away up there that

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decides the fate of the presidency. But today

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we're going to destroy that myth, or at least

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we're going to dissect it. We're digging into

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the history, the data, and the Wikipedia entry

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for this specific maxim to figure out why it

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existed. why it worked for a solid century, and

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then, and this is the fun part, how it just spectacularly

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crashed and burned. It's a classic story of data

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failure, really. It's what happens when you rely

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on a metric that works perfectly right up until

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the moment it stops working entirely. So let's

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start with the why. I mean, if you look at a

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map, Maine's an outlier. It's geographically

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isolated, small population, and the winters are

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not for the faint of heart. So why on earth did

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anyone think Maine was the predictor? Well, the

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magic, if you want to call it that, wasn't political

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at all. It was purely logistical. It wasn't about

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who was voting. It was all about when they were

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voting. The calendar. The calendar. Yeah. Exactly.

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So you have to go back to 1820. That's when Maine

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splits off from Massachusetts, becomes its own

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state. And right from the jump, they set their

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election schedule differently. They held their

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big elections governor, Congress, in September.

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September. So two months before the rest of the

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country. Why the gap? It really comes down to

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what the source material calls the frigid November

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weather. I mean, you have to picture Maine in

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1820. No paved roads, no snow plows. No cars.

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No cars, right. Getting to the town square to

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vote in late November wasn't just a civic duty.

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It was a survival situation. Okay, that makes

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sense. A big snowstorm hits and your turnout

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just plummets. It drops to zero. And on top of

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that, Maine was a big agricultural state and

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the harvest cycle ended earlier up there. So

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it just made practical sense. Get it all done

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in September while the roads were still passable.

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So they voted for governor in Congress in September,

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but they still voted for president in November

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like everyone else. Yes. The presidential election

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date was set federally. They couldn't change

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that. But by the time November rolled around,

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Maine had already elected its entire state government.

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Which means the rest of the country got a massive

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spoiler alert. A sneak preview. Think about it.

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In the mid -1800s, you didn't have Gallup polling

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or, you know, Nate Silver running simulations.

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You had no hard data except for Maine. It was

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the only tangible data point available. Precisely.

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If a party did well in Maine in September, it

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was the only real -world evidence of how voters

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were feeling about the national platform. So

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this whole maxim wasn't just some superstition.

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It was based on a pretty solid track record,

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wasn't it? Oh, it was incredibly accurate for

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a very long time. The source material points

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out that between 1820 and 1932, that's a 112

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-year span, Maine's September results correctly

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predicted the party that would win the presidency

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in 21 out of 28 elections. 21 out of 28. That's

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a 75 % success rate. If a stock picker had that

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record today, they'd be a billionaire. It's impressive.

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And that's what built the legend. It really started

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to clutch on around 1840. The Whig Party candidate,

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a guy named Edward Kent, he wins the governorship

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in September. Two months later, The Whig presidential

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candidate, William Henry Harrison, wins the White

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House. Tippecanoe and Tyler, too. That's the

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one. Yeah. So people started connecting the dots.

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Then it happens again in 1888. Maine votes solidly

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Republican in September. Later that year, Benjamin

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Harrison, a Republican, wins the presidency.

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Now, wait a second. My history is a little rusty,

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but Benjamin Harrison lost the popular vote nationwide

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that year, didn't he? He did. Yeah, it was a

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messy election against Grover Cleveland. But

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Harrison won the Electoral College. So even in

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a weird split verdict election, Maine still technically

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called the winner. That's when the phrase really

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got locked into the American lexicon. OK, but

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let's dig into the data here because this is

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where it gets tricky. You said Maine was pretty

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heavily Republican for most of that era, right?

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It wasn't really a swing state. That is the crucial

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context. After the Civil War, it becomes a stronghold

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for the new Republican Party. It was not, you

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know, Pennsylvania or Florida today. It was deep

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red, to use our terms. So here's my question.

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If Maine is always voting Republican, how does

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that predict anything? I mean, if a Republican

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wins Maine and a Democrat wins the presidency,

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the rule is broken. But if a Republican wins

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Maine and the nation, isn't that just Maine doing

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what Maine always does? And you've just hit on

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the most sophisticated part of this whole thing.

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It's the part that pundits today often forget.

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It wasn't about the identity of the winner in

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Maine. It was about the margin of victory. OK,

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unpack that for me. How did the margin tell the

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story? Think of Maine. Not as a crystal ball,

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but more like a barometer for enthusiasm. Everyone

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knew the Republicans would probably win the governor's

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race. The real question was, by how much? So

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they were looking at the spread, like in sports

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betting. Exactly like sports betting. The baseline

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was Republican win. So if the GOP won Maine by

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a massive landslide in September, say 20 points

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or more, that was a signal that the party base

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was energized and that momentum would probably

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carry over to the real swing states in November.

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But if they barely scraped by. That was the danger

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zone. If the Republicans won but the margin was

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narrow, say less than 5%, that was seen as a

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disaster. It meant the Democrats were overperforming.

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And if Democrats were overperforming in a stronghold

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like Maine, they were probably going to crush

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it in the states that actually mattered. Wow.

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Yes. So a close run Republican victory in September

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was basically a warning siren for November. It

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predicted a Democratic national victory. That

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is fascinating. So a Republican win in Maine

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could actually predict a Democrat in the White

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House. It did. And the parties took it so seriously.

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The source notes they went to considerable lengths

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to win these elections. They would pour money

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and resources into Maine in August. For a state

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with just a handful of electoral votes, it was

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all psychological warfare. 100 percent. It was

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about shaping the narrative. If you could dominate

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the headlines in September with a GOP smashes

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main story. You could demoralize the opposition

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for two months. It works until it doesn't. And

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this brings us to the villain of our story. The

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year 1936. The year the bellwether broke. I love

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this part. It feels like a movie script. You've

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got the setup, the hubris, and then the fall.

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So set the scene. Okay. It's 1936. The Great

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Depression is in full swing. Yeah. FDR is in

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the White House with the New Deal. And the Republicans

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are desperate to get back in power. They nominate.

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Alf Landon, the governor of Kansas. And the Republicans

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are feeling surprisingly good, right? They are.

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And a huge reason for that confidence comes from

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Maine. In September 1936, the Maine Republicans

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have a field day. They elect a Republican governor,

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Louis Barrows. They elect an all -Republican

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congressional delegation. A clean sweep. A total

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clean sweep. And the party leadership went wild.

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They thought the tide had turned. They looked

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at their trusty barometer and saw clear skies

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ahead. They were convinced this predicted a national

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rejection of FDR. Oh, absolutely. The vice presidential

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candidate, Frank Knox, actually said, as Maine

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goes, so goes the nation, is still the gospel

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truth. They were trumpeting this everywhere.

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So September looks great for them, then November

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arrives. And the floor just drops out. How bad

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was it? It wasn't just a loss, it was an annihilation.

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FDR didn't just win. He won one of the greatest

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electoral landslides in American history up to

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that point. And what happened to Alf Landon,

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the guy whose party won the bellwether? Poor

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Alf Landon. He carried exactly two states. Let

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me guess. Maine was one of them. Maine and Vermont.

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That's it. Just those two states huddled together

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in the corner. Landon got a total of eight electoral

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votes. FDR got 523. 523 to eight. That's astounding.

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It's still the smallest electoral vote total

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for a major party nominee since the two -party

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system really began in 1856. So the bellwether

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didn't just fail. It was basically the only place

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in the country that was wrong. It was perfectly

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out of sync with America. It was an island. And

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the maxim, as Maine goes, so goes the nation,

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became an instant joke. And this gives us one

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of the absolute best clapbacks in political history

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from James Farley, FDR's campaign manager. He

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didn't miss a beat. When he saw that map, just

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a sea of blue with two little red dots, Farley

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announced to the press, as Maine goes. So goes

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Vermont. As Maine goes, so goes Vermont. That

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is just savage. It was the perfect dismissal.

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He's saying, sure, you two are statistically

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correlated. You're just totally irrelevant to

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the rest of us. And that pretty much killed the

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superstition on the spot, didn't it? It shattered

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the credibility. If you look at the data after

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1936, the correlation just evaporates. Between

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1940 and 1956, Maine's September winner only

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matched the November presidential winner in one

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of those five elections. One out of five. You'd

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be better off flipping a coin. Much better. The

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magic was gone. And finally, in 1959, Maine changed

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its laws. Since 1960, they voted in November

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with everyone else. The preview era was officially

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over. I want to circle back to that Farley quote

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for a second. As Maine goes, so goes Vermont.

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The source material calls them the Twin States.

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Was Farley just making a joke or is there real

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data behind that? No, he was spot on. Mathematically,

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the political correlation between Maine and Vermont

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is incredibly strong. Almost unnerving. How strong

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are we talking? Since the Republican Party was

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born in 1854, they've voted for different presidential

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candidates in the same election only twice. Wait,

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only twice in over 150 years? Only twice. Through

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the Civil War, the Gilded Age, the Depression,

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the Cold War. They have walked in lockstep. OK,

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I have to know, what were the two times they

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broke up? The first was 1912. That was the Bull

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Moose election. You had Teddy Roosevelt running

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as a third -party candidate against the incumbent

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Republican, Taft. Right, the great Republican

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split. Exactly. Teddy was very popular in Maine,

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and he split the vote so much that the Democrat,

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Woodrow Wilson, snuck through and won the state.

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But Vermont stayed loyal to the official Republican

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candidate, Taft. So it took a former president

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blowing up his own party to separate them. What

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was the second time? 1968. Richard Nixon for

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the Republicans. Vermont voted for Nixon, but

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Maine voted for the Democrat Hubert Humphrey.

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Why the split that time? Humphrey had an ace

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up his sleeve. His running mate for vice president

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was Senator Edmund Muskie. Ah, the favorite son.

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Exactly. Muskie was a beloved figure in Maine

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politics. His presence on the ticket was just

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enough to flip Maine to the Democrats. while

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Vermont stayed Republican. It's pretty telling

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that it took these extraordinary circumstances

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to drive a wedge between them. Otherwise, they're

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politically identical. It shows deep cultural

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similarities, although it is worth noting they

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aren't Republican strongholds anymore. Right.

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Today, the Northeast is pretty reliably blue.

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And they shifted together. The source notes that

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starting around 1992, both Maine and Vermont

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became reliably Democratic in presidential years.

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So they're still twins. They just switch sides

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together. I think there's a bigger lesson here.

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We started this talking about how much we crave

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patterns. The Republicans in 1936 weren't being

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stupid. They had 100 years of data on their side.

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They were following the trend line. They were

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following a trend line that had expired. And

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that's the danger of political data. It's not

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physics. Gravity works the same way in 1820 as

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it does in 1936. But in politics, the underlying

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variables, demographics, party platforms are

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constantly shifting. The as Maine goes maxim

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worked when the political divide in Maine sort

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of mirrored the national divide. Correct. But

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the New Deal realigned American politics. It

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brought in coalitions of urban workers and minorities

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that just didn't really exist in the same way

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in Maine. So Maine stood still and the country

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moved on. The bellwether didn't break. The flock

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just flew to a different pasture. And the Republicans

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missed it because they were looking at the one

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data point that confirmed what they wanted to

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believe. They mistook a local weather report

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for a national climate forecast. That's a perfect

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way to put it. It really makes you wonder what

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our main is today. We don't use that phrase,

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but we have others. We talk about the Blue Wall

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or bellwether counties. We're always looking

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for that shortcut. We absolutely are. The source

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material mentions things like the Missouri bellwether.

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We're always desperate for a simple rule that

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tells us the whole story so we don't have to

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deal with the messy complexity of 50 different

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states. But the lesson of 1936 is that those

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shortcuts work right up until the moment they

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spectacularly fail. And usually that failure

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happens during a realigning election when the

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rules of the game are changing under our feet.

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That's when the old metrics are most dangerous.

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If you're looking at a map from 20 years ago

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to predict tomorrow, you're going to end up like

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Al Flandin. Winning two states and becoming a

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trivia question. Precisely. So the next time

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you hear a pundit say, this county has predicted

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the winner for the last 50 years, maybe, take

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it with a grain of salt. Or a grain of granite,

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in Maine's case. Fair enough. Well, that brings

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us to the end of our deep dive. A story of frozen

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roads, margin analysis, and the danger of assuming

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the future will always look like the past. A

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good reminder to always question your assumptions.

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Thanks for listening. We'll catch you on the

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next deep dive. Goodbye, everyone.
