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Imagine a world where a specific brand name is

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the ultimate passport to respectability. And

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I'm not talking about a fashion brand like Gucci

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or a tech brand like Apple. No, no. I'm talking

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about something much drier, but in the corporate

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world, infinitely more powerful. I want you to

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imagine a company that was... The absolute gold

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standard of integrity. The kind of place where

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if you had their name on your resume, it was

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like having a seal of approval from, I don't

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know, the Pope of capitalism. Exactly. A firm

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where if they signed off on your financial statements,

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the markets didn't just believe you, they revered

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you. A company that employed 28 ,000 people.

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28 ,000. A company that was bringing in over

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$9 billion in revenue a year. A titan. And then

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imagine that this titan, this pillar of American

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commerce just... Poof. Gone. Into thin air. In

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a matter of months, it goes from being the backbone

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of corporate trust to being a punchline on late

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night TV. It becomes a cautionary tale taught

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in every business school ethics class from here

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to, well, Timbuktu. We are, of course, talking

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about the rise and fall of Arthur Anderson. The

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tragedy of Arthur Anderson. And I'm glad you

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used that word tragedy because that is really

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the only way to frame this. Usually when we do

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these deep dives into business failures, we're

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talking about bad strategy. We're talking about

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a CEO who bet on the wrong technology or a marketing

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campaign that flopped or just getting out -competed.

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It's usually a story about math. Yeah, business

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errors. Blockbuster didn't buy Netflix. Kodak

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ignored digital cameras. Exactly. Those are calculation

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errors. But the story of Arthur Anderson isn't

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about a miscalculation. It's a Shakespearean

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character arc. It's about a moral collapse. It

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is. It's about a firm that spent nearly a century

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building this fortress of honesty. only to blow

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it up from the inside because they, well, they

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forgot who they were. It really is wild. I mean,

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most people listening today, especially if they

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are younger or just not deep in the finance weeds,

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they know the big four accounting firms. Right.

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Deloitte. PWC, EY, KPMG. They're the giants.

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But for a very, very long time, it was the big

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five. And Arthur Anderson wasn't just one of

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the five. In many ways, it was the leader. It

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was the alpha. It was the firm that defined the

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profession. And that is what makes this deep

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dive so fascinating and, frankly, so unsettling.

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We aren't just going to look at the Enron shredding

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party, though. Believe me, we are going to get

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into the details. Oh, we have to. The shredding

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party is a must. But to understand why the shredding

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matters, we have to understand. the 89 years

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that came before it. We've got a massive stack

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of sources here. Biographies, legal breakdowns

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from the Supreme Court, internal memos, you name

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it. We're going to trace this arc from 1913 all

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the way to a ruling in 2005 that it changes everything

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you think you know about the ending. And the

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central tension we're going to be exploring today

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is really a battle for the soul of this institution.

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It's a battle between the founders' original

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motto, think straight, talk straight, and the

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later era's obsession with profit that led them

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straight into the abyss. Which, as we know, leads

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us inevitably to Enron. But we can't start with

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Enron. That's the third act. We have to start

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with the protagonist. So let's go back, way back.

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Let's set the scene. It's the early 1900s, and

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we need to talk about Arthur E. Anderson. Because

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his origin story is, honestly, reading through

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these notes, it felt like I was reading a Charles

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Dickens novel. It really is. It's the classic

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American struggle, but turned up to 11. Arthur

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Anderson was born in 1885 in Plano, Illinois.

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And his start in life was not easy. By the time

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he is 16 years old, tragedy strikes. His parents

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die. 16. I mean, that is a child. No parents,

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no safety net, no trust fund. None. He is completely

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orphaned. Now, in 1901, there is no social safety

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net to speak of. If you don't work, you don't

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eat. It's that simple. So he has to take a job

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as a mail boy during the day just to survive.

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And most people in that situation, you'd forgive

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them for just trying to get by, just trying to

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survive day to day. Right. But Arthur Anderson

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had this fire in him, this relentless drive.

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He works as a mailboy all day long. And then

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instead of collapsing, he goes to school at night.

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He's determined to educate himself out of poverty.

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That work all day, study all night mentality,

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that's deep programming. That forges a person

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in a very specific way. It absolutely does. He

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eventually gets a job as an assistant to a controller

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at a company, but he just keeps pushing. He keeps

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taking those night courses. And by 1908, at the

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age of 23, he achieves something incredible.

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What's that? He becomes the youngest certified

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public accountant, or CPA, in the entire state

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of Illinois. 23 years old. I don't think I knew

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what a balance sheet was at 23, let alone being

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the youngest CPA in the state. It just speaks

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to his intellect, but I think more importantly,

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to his discipline. And that discipline becomes

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the DNA of the CIRM he builds. So in 1913, he

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teams up with a guy named Clarence Delaney, and

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they found Anderson, Delaney &amp; Co. And Delaney

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eventually leaves, right? That's why we don't

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know that name. He does. And in 1918, it becomes

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Arthur Anderson &amp; Co. But that year, 1913, is

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the birth. And I love looking at the very beginning

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of these massive corporations. Do we know who

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their first client was? I do. And I love this

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detail because it's so grounded. Their first

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client was the Joseph Schlitz Brewing Company.

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The beer guys. The beer guys in Milwaukee. And

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this wasn't just a cold call or anything. Anderson

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had actually worked there as a controller previously.

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Ah, so he was using his network. Exactly. It

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shows you that even at 28, he understood the

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value of his network. Because of that relationship,

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they opened their second office in Milwaukee

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in 1915. So he's young, he's hungry, he's got

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a beer client. But here's the thing that really

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struck me in the research. Usually when a young

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guy starts a firm in the roaring teens or 20s,

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the goal is make money, get rich, build an empire.

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But Arthur Anderson seemed to have a completely

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different philosophical approach to what an accountant

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is supposed to be. This is the crucial nugget.

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This is the seed of everything. If you miss this,

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you miss the tragedy. Arthur Anderson believed

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that accounting wasn't just about crunching numbers

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for the boss. Right. He didn't think he worked

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for the CEO of the company he was auditing. He

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believed that an accountant's primary responsibility

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was to the investors. That is a radical distinction.

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I'm paid by the client, but I work for the public.

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Exactly. He viewed the accountant as a public

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watchdog, a gatekeeper. If the management was

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lying or inflating numbers or hiding losses,

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it was his job to expose it, not help them hide

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it. And this is where that famous motto comes

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in. Think straight, talk straight. Think straight,

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talk straight. And let's be clear, this wasn't

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some corporate synergy buzzword cooked up by

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a marketing team at a glass office. This was

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an axiom his mother had passed down to him before

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she died. It was core to his identity as a human

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being. There is a famous story from the early

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years, the railway anecdote, that really illustrates

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this. I feel like this is the moment that cemented

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the legend. It's like the George Washington cherry

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tree story, but for accountants. It is the defining

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mythos of the firm. So set the scene. It's the

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early years. The firm is growing, but it's still

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vulnerable. A frantic executive from a local

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rail utility comes to Arthur Anderson. This executive

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is in real trouble. The company's accounts are

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flawed. Flawed how? Like bad math or? Basically,

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the books are cooked or at least very messy and

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misleading. They don't reflect the reality of

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the business. But the executive needs Anderson

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to sign off on them anyway. He says if Anderson

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doesn't certify the books, the utility is going

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to lose a major contract. So it's a do or die

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moment for this client. The executive is putting

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the screws to him. Huge pressure. He's essentially

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saying, sign this paper. Save my company or we

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take our business elsewhere and I ruin your little

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startup firm. It's the ultimate test of that

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motto. Right. And Arthur Anderson looks him in

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the eye, this powerful railroad executive, and

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says there is not enough money in the city of

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Chicago to make him do it. Not enough money in

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the city of Chicago. I mean, I got chills reading

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that. That is a power move. It is. And the railroad

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executive, furious, fires him on the spot. Anderson

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loses the client. Financially, it was a hit.

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But. A few months later, that railroad went bankrupt.

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Wow. It collapsed. And that bankruptcy validated

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everything Anderson stood for. It proved that

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his integrity wasn't just a high moral stance.

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It was actually good business foresight. Because

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if he had signed those papers, his reputation

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would have been destroyed. He would have been

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dragged down with the ship. Exactly. Instead,

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he built a reputation as the guy who couldn't

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be bought. He became the guy who saved you from

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yourself, basically. Banks started saying, we

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will lend to you, but only if Arthur Anderson

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audits your books. The signature became the asset.

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And that reputation created a very specific culture

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within the firm. As it grew, the employees developed

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a nickname for themselves. They did. They called

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themselves Arthur Androids. Arthur Androids.

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Now, to me, sitting here in the 2020s, that sounds

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terrible. It sounds like mindless robots. It

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does to modern ears, but you have to understand

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the intent at the time. It wasn't about being

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mindless. It was about consistency. It was about

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reliability. Okay. The idea was that whether

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a client walked into an Arthur Anderson office

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in Chicago or New York or eventually London or

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Tokyo, they would get the exact same high standard

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of service. Like the McDonald's of high finance,

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but classy. In a way, yes. Yeah. Standardization.

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Anderson was actually a pioneer in training.

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He created the profession's first centralized

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training program. They had this massive facility

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in St. Charles, Illinois. The Q Center. The Q

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Center. And get this. Arthur Anderson, remembering

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his own exhaustion from night school, believed

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that training should happen. during working hours.

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Oh, that's interesting. He didn't want his people

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burning out studying at night like he had to.

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He wanted them sharp. He wanted them fresh. He

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was actually incredibly progressive for the time.

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It really was. And it must have built a loyalty

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that was unmatched. Absolutely. If you were an

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Arthur Android, you were the elite. You were

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the Marine Corps of accounting. You walked a

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certain way. You talked a certain way. And you

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had that think straight, talk straight ethos

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tattooed on your brain. So for decades, this

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is the vibe. High standards, deep integrity,

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uniform excellence. Arthur Anderson himself runs

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the firm until his death in 1947. But obviously,

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the company outlives him. It thrives. It expands

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globally. It becomes a juggernaut. But as we

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move into the 1970s and 80s, the DNA of the firm

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starts to mutate. And this is where we enter

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the second act of our tragedy. We move from the

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founder to the split personality. This is where

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the consultants come in, right? This is the crack

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in the foundation. Exactly. You have to understand

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the structure. You have the audit side, the traditional

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CPAs checking the books, the think straight,

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talk straight folks. But then, starting in the

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70s, you have the consulting wing. And why did

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consulting get so big? What changed? Technology.

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Computers. Systems integration. Companies didn't

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just need someone to count their money anymore.

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They needed someone to help them install the

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computer systems to track the money. They needed

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strategy. And Anderson was really, really good

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at this. So the consulting wing just took off.

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It started growing much, much faster than the

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auditing and tax side. And this is where the

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tension starts. I mean, real tension. I can just

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picture it. The cool, fast -growing consulting

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kids with the slick suits versus the stodgy rule

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-following audit parents. It was worse than just

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a culture clash. It was about money. The way

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the firm was structured, the profits were pooled.

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So as the consultants started making money hand

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over fist, they resented the fact that they had

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to make what were called transfer payments. to

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the auditing partners. So if I'm a consultant,

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I'm bringing in all this new business, all this

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high margin revenue, but I have to give a chunk

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of it to the auditors who were just growing at

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a snail's pace. Precisely. They felt like they

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were subsidizing the slower growth part of the

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business. The feeling was, we're doing the heavy

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lifting and you guys are taking our lunch money.

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It created this deep bitterness. So did the firm

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try to fix this? Did they see this civil war

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brewing? They tried. In 1989, there was actually

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an attempt to merge with Price Waterhouse. The

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idea was to create a massive counterbalance to

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get bigger on the audit side, but it failed.

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Why did it fail? A couple of reasons. One was

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just radically different cultures. Price Waterhouse

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was seen as more white shoe, more, you know,

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country club. Anderson was this scrappy, aggressive

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meritocracy. Okay. But also... Huge conflicts

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of interest. For example, Anderson had strong

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commercial links with IBM. They were selling

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them consulting services, while Pricewaterhouse

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was IBM's auditor. You can't be both a business

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partner and an independent auditor for the same

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company. That's a huge conflict. Well, you shouldn't

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be. And that conflict is some serious foreshadowing

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for what happens later. So the merger collapsed,

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and the firm was stuck in this internal civil

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war. So what did they do? In 1989, they formally

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split the firm into two business units under

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one umbrella. Arthur Anderson, which was the

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auditors, and Anderson Consulting. And they spent

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the entire 1990s fighting. A whole decade of

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infighting. That sounds toxic. It was. A bitter

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dispute over money, over independence, and over

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the brand name. Finally, it goes to arbitration.

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And in August 2000, the arbitrator drops a bomb.

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Okay, what was the ruling? Anderson Consulting

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was granted total independence. They were free.

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But there was a catch. Two catches, actually.

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Go on. First, the consultants had to pay Arthur

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Anderson, the audit side, $1 .2 billion that

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had been held in escrow. $1 .2 billion. That's

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a nice parting gift. It sounds like a lot. But

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the second catch was that Anderson Consulting

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had to surrender the Anderson name. They couldn't

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use it anymore. So they lose the name. What do

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they become? They rebranded as Accenture. Oh,

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wow. Accenture is huge today. I had no idea they

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were born out of this divorce. Massive success

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story. And they arguably got the better end of

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the deal, because for the Arthur Anderson side,

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the auditors, This ruling was actually a complete

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disaster. Yet how is getting $1 .2 billion a

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disaster? I'm not following. Because of expectations.

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The board of Arthur Anderson had set a much higher

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bar. They were convinced they were owed much

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more for, you know, raising the consulting arm

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from infancy. The CEO of Arthur Anderson at the

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time, a guy named Jim Wadia, resigned just four

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hours after the ruling came out. Four hours?

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Why so fast? Because the board had passed resolutions

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saying Wadia had to resign if he didn't secure

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at least an incremental $4 billion from the split.

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$4 billion? He only got $1 .2. The audit partners

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were expecting this massive payout to compensate

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for losing the consulting cash cow, and they

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just didn't get it. So let's unpack the psychology

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here. It's the year 2000. Arthur Anderson, the

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audit firm, has just lost its fastest -growing

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sibling. They've lost that guaranteed revenue

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stream from the consultants. They are, frankly,

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humiliated. And they are desperate. This is the

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pivot point. They need to prove that they can

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grow just as fast as the consultants did. They

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need to replace that revenue. And this is where

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the erosion of standards kicks into high gear.

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The pressure must have been immense. It was.

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They were struggling to balance that historical

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faithfulness to think straight, talk straight,

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with a new desperate need to maximize profits

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in the quarterly earnings era. The culture shifted

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from we answer to the investors to we must keep

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the client happy at all costs. Because if you

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lose a client, you lose revenue and you're already

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behind the eight ball. It's a classic trap. Exactly.

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And the warning signs were flashing red long

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before Enron. We tend to think of Enron as this

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singular event. But the truth is. Arthur Anderson

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was embroiled in multiple accounting frauds in

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the 90s and early 2000s. So this wasn't an isolated

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incident. It was a pattern. A pattern. A rogues

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gallery of corporate scandals. You had Sunbeam

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products. Chainsaw Al Dunlap. That whole fiasco.

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Right. Sunbeam was cooking the books to show

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massive growth, and Anderson signed off on it.

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You had waste management, a massive fraud involving

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depreciation schedules. You had Asia Pulp and

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Paper, the Baptist Foundation of Arizona, and

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importantly, WorldCom. They had WorldCom, too.

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Yes. We'll get to WorldCom. But the point is,

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in the 1990s, Anderson wasn't spotting these

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frauds. They were allegedly facilitating them,

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or at the very least looking the other way. Which

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is such a crazy contrast to the 1970s. I read

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that in the 70s, Anderson was actually the first

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to identify risks in the subprime market, and

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they voluntarily dropped clients that looked

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shady. That's the tragedy right there in a nutshell.

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In the 70s, they fired clients who were risky

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because they valued their reputation more than

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the fees. In the 90s, they clung to them because

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they valued the fees more than the reputation.

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They went from not enough money in Chicago to

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make me lie to how can we help you structure

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this so it looks okay? That's it. And that brings

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us to the client that would end it all. Enron.

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Enron. The energy giant. The smartest guys in

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the room. And for Arthur Anderson, their most

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lucrative client, they were charging Enron something

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like a million dollars a week in fees. A million

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a week. Between audit fees and consulting fees,

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yes. And that's the other thing. After the split,

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Anderson had started to rebuild a consulting

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practice inside the audit firm. So they were

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back to doing exactly what they weren't supposed

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to do, auditing the same people they were consulting

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for. The conflict was back. So just to give us

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some scale here, how bad was the Enron fraud?

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It was catastrophic. At the time, it was the

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biggest in history. Enron had fraudulently reported

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about $100 billion in revenue. It was systemic

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accounting fraud designed to hide massive debts

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and inflate earnings to make the stock price

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soar. And when it finally unraveled, it was the

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largest corporate bankruptcy in American history

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at that point. It was. And Anderson was the auditor.

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They were the ones supposed to be checking the

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math. But they weren't just checking the math.

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They were deeply embedded. What does that mean?

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Well, the Powers Committee, which was appointed

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by Enron's own board to investigate, found that

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Anderson simply did not fulfill its professional

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responsibilities. They failed to alert the Enron

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board about major concerns regarding related

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party transactions. OK, related party transactions.

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Let's break that down for the listener. This

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is the call of the Enron scam. Right. So Enron

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executives, specifically the CFO, Andrew Fastow,

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were setting up these side companies. The technical

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term is special purpose entities or. So shell

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companies. Essentially, yes, shell companies.

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Enron would then take a bunch of bad debt or

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losing assets and sell them to the shell company.

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So it looks like the bad stuff is off Enron's

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books. So if I have a car that doesn't run and

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I owe money on it, I sell it to my cousin's company

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and now it's off my driveway and off my personal

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balance sheet. Exactly. But here is the catch.

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Enron was often secretly guaranteeing the loans

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for the shell company. So the risk was still

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with Enron. But the paperwork made it look like

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it was gone. It was a shell game. And Anderson

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knew about it. They knew. They had to know. They

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were auditing the transactions. In fact, some

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evidence suggests they were charging fees to

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advise on how to set these things up. That is

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a conflict of interest in a nutshell. Auditing

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your own advice. It gets worse. The actual whistleblower

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who brought this all down was a woman named Sharon

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Watkins, an Enron VP. And here's the kicker.

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She was a former Arthur Anderson auditor. No

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way. The call is coming from inside the house?

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In a way, yeah. She had the Arthur Android training

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to spot it. She looked at the books and said,

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this math doesn't work. This is a house of cards.

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She testified to Congress and implicated her

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former firm. Wow. But the real smoking gun wasn't

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just the bad auditing. Bad auditing gets you

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sued. You pay a massive fine, you settle. What

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destroyed them was the cover -up. The shredding

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party. The shredding party. This is where we

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move from professional negligence to... outright

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crime. So paint the scene for us. It's late 2001.

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The stock is cratering. The SEC is sniffing around.

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What happens at the Anderson offices in Houston?

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Well, you have David Duncan, who's the lead partner

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for the Enron account. And you have Nancy Temple,

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an attorney from the legal department in Chicago.

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As the investigation is heating up on October

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23rd, David Duncan calls an urgent meeting. And

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shortly after that meeting, a massive effort

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begins to destroy documents. Like physical paper

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shredding in 2001. Oh, yeah. Physical shredding

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of tons of documents. They brought in extra shredder

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trucks. They were shredding so much paper they

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literally couldn't keep up. And at the same time,

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they were deleting thousands upon thousands of

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emails. They were trying to wipe the trail clean

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before the investigators could seize the files.

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That feels so panicked. It's not the calculated

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move of a mastermind. It's the move of someone

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who is terrified and cornered. It was obstruction

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of justice, plain and simple. You cannot destroy

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evidence when you know a federal investigation

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is looming. It's one of the cardinal sins. And

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the government finds out. Of course they find

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out. You can't shred that much paper without

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someone noticing. And the Department of Justice

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decides to make an example of them. They don't

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just indict David Duncan or Nancy Temple. They

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indict the entire firm. The whole company. The

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firm. Arthur Anderson, LLP. And the trial happens.

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On June 15, 2002, the verdict comes down. Arthur

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Anderson was convicted of obstruction of justice.

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A felony conviction. A felony. And for an accounting

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firm, that is a death sentence. Okay, explain

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that to me. Why is it a death sentence? I mean,

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why couldn't they just pay a massive fine, fire

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the bad apples, and move on? Other big companies,

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banks, they get fined all the time and survive.

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Because accounting is different. The SEC, the

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Securities and Exchange Commission, has a very

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clear rule. They do not accept audits from convicted

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felons. If you are a public company in America,

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you must be audited by an SEC -approved firm.

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It's the law. The moment Anderson was convicted,

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they lost their license to practice before the

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SEC. They literally could not do their job anymore.

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So every single public client they had had to

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fire them. Immediately. They had no choice. If

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you were Coca -Cola or Delta Airlines or any

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of their thousands of clients, you had to fire

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Anderson that day or you would be delisted from

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the stock exchange. Wow. So the revenue goes

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to zero overnight. Essentially, yes. On August

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31st, 2002, Anderson formally agreed to surrender

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its CPA licenses. The firm, for all intents and

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purposes, went out of business. This is the part

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that I find really heartbreaking. We're talking

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about 28 ,000 employees. Yes. And the vast, vast

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majority of them had nothing to do with Enron.

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They were the Arthur Androids in offices in Kansas

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City or Frankfurt or Milwaukee, just doing their

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jobs, checking inventories, following the rules.

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It's the ultimate tragedy of the commons. A handful

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of people in the Houston office and the legal

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department in Chicago made these decisions, and

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28 ,000 people lost their livelihoods. It was

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an exodus. The firm just wound down its American

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operations. Partners and entire offices scrambled

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to find lifeboats. They migrated to competitors,

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KPMG, Ernst &amp; Young, Deloitte, Grant Thornton.

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They swooped in and bought up local Anderson

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offices for pennies on the dollar. The carcass

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was picked clean. Completely. By 2005, a firm

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of 20 ,000 was reduced to a skeleton crew of

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about 200 people, mostly just lawyers and administrators

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handling the endless lawsuits. So the giant is

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dead. The corpse has been picked to clean my

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competitors. The name Arthur Anderson is synonymous

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with fraud. End of story. But then there is a

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plot twist, a twist so wild I had to read it

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twice. The Supreme Court ruling of 2005, Arthur

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Anderson, LLP v. United States. Three years after

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the firm is basically destroyed, the case goes

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to the highest court in the land. And what do

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they decide? They unanimously reverse the conviction.

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Unanimously. You mean nine, nine, seven. Every

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single justice agreed. So wait a minute. Does

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that mean Anderson was innocent? Did they get

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a raw deal? It's complicated. This is where we

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have to be very careful with our legal terms.

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The Supreme Court didn't say Anderson did nothing

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wrong. They didn't say no documents were shredded.

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They certainly didn't say Enron wasn't a fraud.

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So what did they say? They said the trial was

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flawed, specifically the jury instructions. The

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instructions given to the jury by the judge at

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the end of the trial. Right. In a criminal trial,

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the judge gives the jury a set of instructions

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on how to apply the law to the facts. The Supreme

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Court ruled that the instructions in this case

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were way too vague. They allowed the jury to

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convict Anderson of obstruction of justice without

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proving that the firm knew it was breaking the

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law. This is that concept of corrupt persuasion,

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right? Yes. That's the legal term at the heart

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of it. The statute used the term corruptly persuades.

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The Supreme Court said that to be corrupt, you

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have to have a consciousness of wrongdoing. You

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have to know that what you are doing is illegal

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and you're trying to impede a specific official

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proceeding. OK. The jury instructions were so

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broad that they could have convicted Anderson

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just for following their standard document retention

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policy, even if they didn't have the specific

00:24:52.240 --> 00:24:55.240
intent to obstruct the SEC investigation. So

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because of a technicality in how the judge talked

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to the jury. Because the bar for conviction was

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set too low, the whole thing is thrown out. Correct.

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The chief justice at the time, Rehnquist, wrote

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that the instructions diluted the meaning of

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corruptly. But it's 2005. The firm is already

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dead. Exactly. It was a moral victory, perhaps,

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but a pyrrhic one, a completely hollow victory.

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The U .S. Chamber of Commerce released a statement

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saying there is no putting the company back together.

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Anderson was, by that point, a zombie firm. Did

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the government ever try to retry them on the

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case? No. Former U .S. attorneys and the government

00:25:30.609 --> 00:25:33.950
decided it would defy common sense. Why spend

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millions of taxpayer dollars prosecuting a corpse?

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The firm had no assets, no employees, no clients.

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It was over. But there is a huge what if here,

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isn't there? I mean, if the trial hadn't happened

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or if the instructions had been correct and they

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were acquitted back in 2002, could Arthur Anderson

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have survived Enron? Kurt Eichenwald, who wrote

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the book Conspiracy of Fools, which is really

00:25:56.440 --> 00:25:59.380
the definitive book on the Enron scandal, argues,

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no, not a chance. But why not? Because the world's

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come. Ah, right. The other massive fraud that

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was happening at the same time. The WorldCom

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fraud was revealed just days after the Enron

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conviction in June 2002. It was another massive

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accounting scandal involving billions of dollars,

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actually bigger than Enron in terms of the assets

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involved. And guess who their auditor was? Arthur

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Anderson. Arthur Anderson. So they strike out

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twice in a row on the biggest corporate frauds

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in American history. So Eichenwald's argument

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is that even if they had somehow limped away

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from Enron, the one -two punch of WorldCom would

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have killed them anyway. It would have. The reputation

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was simply too toxic. Trust is the only product

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an auditor really has. If nobody trusts your

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signature, you don't have a business. The market

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would have killed them even if the government

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didn't. So let's talk about the aftermath. The

00:26:45.160 --> 00:26:47.700
crater left by this explosion. It didn't just

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end a company. It changed the laws, didn't it?

00:26:50.279 --> 00:26:53.519
Oh, a huge regulatory impact. The scandals of

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Enron and WorldCom and Anderson's role in them

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were the primary drivers for the Sarbanes -Oxley

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Act of 2002. S .O .X. Every corporate accountant's

00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:05.460
favorite acronym. It drastically increased oversight.

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It established the Public Company Accounting

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Oversight Board, the PCAOB, to watch the watchers.

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It put strict rules on auditor independence,

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basically trying to prevent exactly what happened

00:27:15.079 --> 00:27:17.119
with Anderson, where the consulting and auditing

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lines got completely blurred. So now you can't

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be the auditor and the big money consultant for

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the same client. Generally, no. There are very

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strict limits. It also made executives personally

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liable for the accuracy of their financial statements.

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If the numbers are fake, The CEO can go to jail.

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So in a way, Arthur Anderson's death made the

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whole system stronger, or at least it tried to.

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That's the hope. And what about the pieces of

00:27:40.619 --> 00:27:42.400
the firm? We mentioned Accenture. They're the

00:27:42.400 --> 00:27:45.259
big winner here. Accenture is the thriving survivor.

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They are a global giant in consulting and professional

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services today. They really, really dodged a

00:27:52.920 --> 00:27:55.220
bullet by splitting off when they did. And getting

00:27:55.220 --> 00:27:57.160
forced to change their name turned out to be

00:27:57.160 --> 00:28:00.079
the luckiest break in corporate history. Absolute

00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.630
luck. If they had kept the Anderson name, they

00:28:02.630 --> 00:28:04.650
might have been dragged down, too, just by association.

00:28:05.029 --> 00:28:07.069
What about the other parts? Where did those 28

00:28:07.069 --> 00:28:09.670
,000 people go? Well, a lot of them landed at

00:28:09.670 --> 00:28:12.710
the other big firms. But some interesting offshoots

00:28:12.710 --> 00:28:15.250
happen. There's a company called Portivity that

00:28:15.250 --> 00:28:18.569
was formed by about 700 former Anderson professionals

00:28:18.569 --> 00:28:21.849
who specialized in internal audit and risk consulting.

00:28:22.369 --> 00:28:24.250
They were hired by Robert Half International

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and essentially reconstituted as a new firm.

00:28:27.809 --> 00:28:29.289
And I've heard the name Anderson is actually

00:28:29.289 --> 00:28:32.130
back in some form. It is, which is fascinating.

00:28:32.289 --> 00:28:35.930
In 2014, a group of former partners who had started

00:28:35.930 --> 00:28:39.589
a tax firm called WTAS bought the rights to the

00:28:39.589 --> 00:28:42.549
Anderson name. They rebranded as Anderson Tax

00:28:42.549 --> 00:28:45.869
and later Anderson Global. So name lives on,

00:28:45.970 --> 00:28:48.470
but it's a tax firm now, not an audit firm. Right.

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It's a different entity, legally speaking, but

00:28:51.509 --> 00:28:53.910
it's trying to reclaim the lineage, the original

00:28:53.910 --> 00:28:56.869
think straight, talk straight ethos. And what

00:28:56.869 --> 00:28:59.029
about the Q Center? That big training facility.

00:28:59.410 --> 00:29:02.349
The Q Center in St. Charles, Illinois. The place

00:29:02.349 --> 00:29:04.009
where the androids were made. It's still there.

00:29:04.089 --> 00:29:05.930
It's a huge conference center. It's still used

00:29:05.930 --> 00:29:08.029
for training, offered by Accenture and other

00:29:08.029 --> 00:29:10.390
big companies. It stands as a physical monument

00:29:10.390 --> 00:29:12.289
to the sheer scale of what Anderson used to be.

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And the original legal entity. Arthur Anderson

00:29:15.220 --> 00:29:18.359
LLP. Is it just gone? It still technically exists,

00:29:18.619 --> 00:29:21.140
but it's owned by these limited liability companies

00:29:21.140 --> 00:29:23.720
called Omega Management. It doesn't do business.

00:29:23.740 --> 00:29:25.920
It just exists to handle any lingering legal

00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.339
cleanup. It's a ghost, a shell. So we've gone

00:29:29.339 --> 00:29:32.740
from the orphan boy in 1913, studying by candlelight,

00:29:32.819 --> 00:29:34.779
to the global empire, to the shredding room,

00:29:34.900 --> 00:29:37.660
to the Supreme Court, and finally to a ghost

00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:40.759
ship. It's quite a journey. When you look at

00:29:40.759 --> 00:29:42.819
this whole story, what is the big takeaway for

00:29:42.819 --> 00:29:45.079
you? What's the lesson? For me, it's about the

00:29:45.079 --> 00:29:48.049
fragility of culture. Arthur Anderson spent nearly

00:29:48.049 --> 00:29:50.470
a century building a culture of integrity. Think

00:29:50.470 --> 00:29:53.769
straight. Talk straight. It took decades to build

00:29:53.769 --> 00:29:56.289
that reputation into an ironclad asset. Right.

00:29:56.490 --> 00:29:59.130
But it only took a few years of chasing short

00:29:59.130 --> 00:30:02.470
-term profits, of prioritizing client fees over

00:30:02.470 --> 00:30:05.130
public duty, to burn it all to the ground. It's

00:30:05.130 --> 00:30:07.529
that famous idea, it takes a lifetime to build

00:30:07.529 --> 00:30:10.329
a reputation and five minutes to ruin it. Exactly.

00:30:10.589 --> 00:30:14.680
And the irony is just... It's so painful. The

00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.319
firm that was founded on the idea that you answer

00:30:17.319 --> 00:30:20.279
to the investors, not the client, died because

00:30:20.279 --> 00:30:22.380
it helped a client lie to investors. And the

00:30:22.380 --> 00:30:24.079
firm with the motto, think straight, talk straight,

00:30:24.259 --> 00:30:26.519
ended its life arguing in the Supreme Court about

00:30:26.519 --> 00:30:29.059
the precise definition of corrupt persuasion.

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You couldn't write a more poetic or tragic ending.

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So here is a question for you. Listen to this

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right now. We live in a world that is even more

00:30:36.960 --> 00:30:39.779
high pressure than the 1990s. The quarterly earnings

00:30:39.779 --> 00:30:42.279
pressure hasn't gone away. If anything, it's

00:30:42.279 --> 00:30:44.779
gotten worse. The speed of information, the speed

00:30:44.779 --> 00:30:47.920
of markets, it's all accelerated. Right. So is

00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:51.299
it actually possible for a firm to grow as large

00:30:51.299 --> 00:30:54.519
as Arthur Anderson did to become a global behemoth

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without eventually compromising the very standards

00:30:57.920 --> 00:31:00.839
that built it? When the choice is between responsibility

00:31:00.839 --> 00:31:04.019
to the public and keeping a hundred million dollar

00:31:04.019 --> 00:31:06.559
client happy, which one actually wins today?

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That is the billion dollar question, isn't it?

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Something to think about the next time you see

00:31:10.539 --> 00:31:12.220
a corporate earnings report. Thanks for diving

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in with us. See you next time.
