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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today, we are

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not just talking about a business story. We are,

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I think, talking about a moment where the tectonic

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plates of the American economy actually shifted.

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Oh, absolutely. It's one of those where were

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you when moments. But, you know, for the entire

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industrial world. It really was. It was the end

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of an era and the really messy, complicated beginning

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of a new one. That's the perfect way to put it.

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Messy is the word. So we are dialing the clock

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back to June 1st, 2009. It's a Monday morning,

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8 .800 a .m. Eastern Daylight Time. And the location

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is Manhattan, which is, you know, a bit of a

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clue right there. Right. Not Detroit. Not Detroit.

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We're in the Southern District of New York. And

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the headline flashing across every Bloomberg

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terminal and every CNN ticker was just, it was

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almost impossible to process. It was. General

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Motors files for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The Titan

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falls. That was the sentiment everywhere, wasn't

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it? It really was. You have to remember for decades,

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I mean decades, the saying was, as GM goes, so

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goes the nation. And here was the nation's industrial

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engine, its biggest manufacturer, basically admitting

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it couldn't pay for gas. It was out of road.

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It was a cultural shock as much as it was a financial

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one. I want to pause on the scale of this because

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bankruptcy is a word we hear a lot. You know,

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we hear it with retail chains or like. some tech

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startup that burns through its cash. Sure, it's

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almost common now. But this was different. This

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was the fourth largest bankruptcy in U .S. history.

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Right behind Lehman Brothers, Washington Mutual,

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and WorldCom. That's the company it was keeping.

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But here's the distinction, and I think it's

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an important one. Lehman was a bank, you know,

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abstract financial instruments. WorldCom was

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telecom infrastructure and, let's be honest,

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massive accounting fraud. Right. Ones and zeros

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on a server somewhere. Exactly. GM was tangible.

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It was steel, rubber, glass. It was hundreds

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of thousands of human beings physically making

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things you could touch and drive. It was the

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real economy. That's what made it so terrifying.

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The numbers are frankly nauseating. I mean, you

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look at the filing, we're looking at assets of

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$82 .29 billion. And that sounds like a solvent

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company, right? That's a massive amount of stuff,

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factories, brands, inventory. $82 billion, of

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course. But that's only until you look at the

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other side of the ledger. The liability column.

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And that's where the story turns into a horror

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movie. They were carrying a debt load of $172

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.81 billion. Wait, say that again. $172 .81 billion.

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So they were underwater by nearly a hundred...

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billion. A hundred billion. It's a hole so deep

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light can't even escape it. The math just doesn't

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work. No. And the stakes weren't just about,

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you know, shareholders losing money on the stock

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market. If a software company goes under, OK,

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the servers get turned off. A few people lose

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their jobs. It's sad, but it's contained. This

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was not contained. If GM went under, I mean,

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really went under, as in full liquidation, you

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are talking about 91 ,000 U .S. employees directly

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on the payroll. And that's just the tip of the

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spear. That's not even the real number to be

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scared of. No, because then you have the thousands

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of dealerships. Yeah. And these are often the

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biggest tax revenue generators for small towns

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all across America. They sponsor the little league

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teams. They're part of the fabric of the community.

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Then you have the parts suppliers. The guy's

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making the seats, the glass, the tires, the wiring

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harnesses. If GM stops buying, they stop producing.

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The ripple effect was calculated to be just catastrophic.

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It would have plunged the entire Midwest into

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a depression, not just a recession. So our mission

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for this deep dive is to do a full autopsy on

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this event. We need to figure out two things.

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First, how does a company that literally defined

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American success in the 20th century manage to

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get itself $100 billion in the hole? Right, because

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that doesn't happen by accident. No, it takes

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years of effort to lose that much money. That's

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a good way to put it. And second, and this is

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the part that I think is most misunderstood even

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today, we need to understand the how of the rescue.

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Because they didn't just file for bankruptcy

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and reorganize like a normal company. No, they

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didn't have time for normal. They pulled off

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this incredible legal maneuver, a surgical Section

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363 sale, that is still studied in law schools

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and business schools today. It was a piece of

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legal wizardry, controversial, aggressive, and

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most importantly, incredibly fast. So let's start

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at the beginning. Or I guess the beginning of

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the end. Let's talk about the road to ruin. Because

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I think the popular narrative is simple. The

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2008 banking crisis happened. Nobody could get

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loans to buy cars. So GM went bust. And that's...

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That's too simple. It's letting them off the

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hook, isn't it? Completely. The 2008 crash was

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the bullet that finally killed the beast. But

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the beast was already dying of a dozen chronic

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diseases. It was already on its knees. You just

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have to look at the financials from 2005, a full

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three years before the Lehman Brothers collapsed.

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OK, so 2005, the economy is good. The housing

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market is booming. People are buying stuff. A

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booming economy. Everyone else was making money

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hand over fist. And GM in 2005 posts a loss of

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$10 .6 billion. billion in a good year. In a

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great year for the economy, it was a massive

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red flag that nobody or not enough people had

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attention to. Then you fast forward to 2007,

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still pre -crash. What happens then? It gets

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worse, a lot worse. In 2007, they post a loss

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of $38 .7 billion. $38 billion in one year. How

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is that even possible? Were they just setting

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piles of money on fire in the parking lot? In

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a way, yes. It comes down to what we call legacy

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costs. This is the key to understanding the whole

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mess. GM wasn't just a car company. It was something.

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It was a massive insurance company and a pension

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fund that just happened to make cars on the side

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to pay for it all. Explain that. They had hundreds

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of thousands of retirees. And through contracts

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negotiated with the UAW in the 50s, 60s and 70s,

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they were on the hook for full health care costs

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for life and defined benefit pensions. And then

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there was the famous jobs bank. Oh, we have to

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talk about the jobs bank. This sounds like an

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urban legend, but it was real. It was very, very

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real. Through union negotiations in, you know,

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arguably better times for the company, GM had

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agreed that if they didn't have work for an employee,

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say, a plant slowed down production for a few

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months, they wouldn't lay them off. OK, so what

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did they do with them? Instead, the employee

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would report to a jobs bank. They would literally

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go to a room on site, play cards, read the paper,

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maybe do some community service, and they would

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receive. nearly their full salary and benefits.

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So they're paying thousands of people full UAW

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wages to not build cars. For years. Because legally...

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Under the contract, they couldn't fire them.

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So when you ask how a company loses $38 billion

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in a year, it's because your fixed costs, the

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money you spend just to open the doors in the

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morning, are astronomical. And their competitors

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didn't have this. Not even close. Toyota or Honda,

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building cars in new plants in the South with

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non -union labor, they didn't have any of these

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legacy structures. Their cost per vehicle was

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thousands of dollars lower before they even turned

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on the assembly line. And management knew this,

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right? It's not like they were asleep at the

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wheel, forgive the pun. They knew they were in

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trouble. They did. They weren't idiots. In 2006,

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they approached the government, the Bush administration,

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trying to get financing specifically for those

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pension liabilities. They wanted a bailout before

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the bailout. And the government said no. The

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government said no. Then they tried to form a

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massive commercial alliance with Nissan and Renault,

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headed by Carlos Ghosn at the time. What was

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the idea there? To share platforms, share purchasing

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power and economies of scale. Basically, let's

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all get together and be too big to fail as a

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group. And that fell apart. It dissolved completely.

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There were cultural clashes, disagreements on

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what each company was actually worth. It just

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didn't happen. So GM is left alone, bloated with

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these legacy costs, bleeding cash, even in a

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good economy. And then 2008 hits. The Great Recession.

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The perfect storm. So you have a company that

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is already incredibly fragile. Then the housing

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market collapses. Lehman Brothers collapses.

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And the credit markets. They freeze solid. And

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this is the crucial part to understand for any

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car company. In the U .S., people don't buy cars

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with cash. No, of course not. They buy cars with

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loans. Right. And your local Chevy dealer doesn't

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own all the cars on his lot. He finances that

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inventory through a line of credit. So if the

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banks stop lending to consumers and they stop

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lending to dealers. The entire system just seizes

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up. The customers stop buying. Sales didn't just

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dip. they fell off a cliff. In 2008, sales for

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GM dropped by 45%. 45%. Imagine your personal

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paycheck getting cut in half basically overnight.

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But your mortgage and your credit card bills

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stay exactly the same. That's the liquidity trap

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they fell into. So what did that do to their

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bottom line in 08? In 2008 alone, GM lost another

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$30 .9 billion. But the loss isn't the scariest

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number. What is? The cash burn. Because you can

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have an accounting loss but still have cash.

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The scary number is that they spent $19 .2 billion

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of their actual cash reserves just to keep the

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lights on and pay those fixed costs. They were

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burning through almost $2 billion a month. In

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cash. Which brings us to November 7, 2008. The

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warning shot. GM puts out a statement that is

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terrifyingly blunt for a public company. They

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basically said, we will run out of cash by mid

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-2009. No, we will be unprofitable. No, we will

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have zero dollars in the bank, the corporate

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equivalent of sending out a flare. This brings

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us to the political theater of it all. Section

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2. The ultimatum and the political pivot. Because

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this wasn't just a business problem anymore,

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was it? Not a chance. It became a Washington

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problem overnight. A massive, toxic political

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football. And you had this awkward timing with

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the lame duck session of the Bush administration

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getting ready to hand over to the newly elected

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Obama administration. Exactly. And in the middle

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of this, you had the CEOs of the big three GM,

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Ford and Chrysler, flying to D .C. to beg Congress

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for money. And we have to talk about the Jets.

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Oh, the Jets. This is a masterclass in how not

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to read a room. It's almost unbelievable in hindsight.

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So set the scene for us. What happened? The country

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is in a full -blown panic. People are losing

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their homes, their jobs. The stock market is

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in free fall. Unemployment is skyrocketing. Complete

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economic terror. Total terror. And into this

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environment, these three CEOs, Rick Wagner of

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GM, Alan Mulally of Ford, and Robert Nardelli

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of Chrysler, each take their own separate private

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luxury corporate jet to fly to Washington, D

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.C. To ask for billions of dollars in taxpayer

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aid. It's almost cartoonishly villainous. You

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couldn't write it in a movie because people wouldn't

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believe it. And Congress just unloaded on them.

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They tore them apart. I remember watching it

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live. Representative Gary Ackerman from New York

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looked at them and said something like, there

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is a delicious irony in seeing you three arrive

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in private jets to tell us you're running out

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of money. It just destroyed their credibility.

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Any public sympathy they might have had, gone.

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Completely. They were humiliated. The optics

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were so bad that for the next hearing, they all

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had to make a big show of driving cars from Detroit

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to D .C. just to save face. A little late for

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that, I think. A little bit. But despite the

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PR disaster, the Bush administration, in its

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final days, realized they couldn't just let GM

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die on their watch right before Christmas. It

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would have been a political nightmare. So they

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stepped in. They did. In December 2008, the Bush

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White House used TARP funds, the Troubled Asset

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Relief Program, to provide a bridge loan. A bridge

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to where? Ideally, a bridge to the Obama administration.

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It was just enough cash to keep them alive for

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a few more months. But it came with some serious

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strings attached. Which were? They had to come

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back by March with a completely revised business

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plan that showed, credibly, how they could actually

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be profitable in the long term. So fast forward.

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It's now March 2009. President Obama is in office.

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He's dealing with the banking crisis, the housing

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crisis. And now this smoldering auto crisis has

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dropped on his desk. And he forms the Auto Task

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Force, led by guys like Steven Ratner and Ron

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Bloom. Their job was to figure out if these companies

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were even salvageable. And March 30th, the deadline

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hits. GM submits their plan. They do. And their

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plan basically was give us more money and we

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promise we'll slowly cut costs over time. It

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was more of the same, really. And what was Obama's

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response? A hard no. A very public no. He went

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on national television and rejected the plan

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outright. He said it didn't go deep enough. It

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avoided, and this was his phrase, the tough decisions.

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And to prove he wasn't bluffing, he took a scalp.

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A big one. A huge one. Rick Wagoner, the chairman

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and CEO of General Motors. A man who had been

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at the company his entire career worked his way

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up from the bottom. What happened to him? The

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Obama administration effectively demanded his

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resignation as a condition for any further government

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help. Yeah, that is profound. The president of

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the United States firing the CEO of a private

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corporation. It was completely unprecedented.

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It sent a massive shockwave through the business

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world. The message was crystal clear. If you

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take the government's coin. You play by the government's

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rules. And Fritz Henderson was installed as the

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new CEO. Right. And his mandate was basically,

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you have 60 days to come up with a plan for bankruptcy

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or we're cutting you off. So the administration

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was pushing them towards Chapter 11. Yes. The

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president argued that Chapter 11 was actually

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the most promising way to fix the company because

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it gave them the legal power to force concessions

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from bondholders and unions that they could never

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get in a normal negotiation. But there was a

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massive, massive problem with the idea of bankruptcy.

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And this is something that terrified the auto

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task force. It's the warranty guarantee problem.

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Explain that logic. Why does a car warranty matter

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so much in a bankruptcy? Think about it from

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a consumer's perspective. You go to a dealership

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to buy a new Chevy Malibu. It costs, say, $25

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,000. You are making that investment, assuming

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the car will run for 10 years, and if the engine

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blows up next week, the company will be there

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to fix it. That's a whole point of a warranty,

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sure. Now, imagine that company is in bankruptcy

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court. The news is full of stories saying they

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might be liquidated, they might disappear forever.

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Are you still going to spend $20 ,000 on that

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Malibu? No way. You're terrified that your warranty

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is basically a worthless piece of paper. Who's

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going to fix my transmission if the company doesn't

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exist in six months? Exactly. So the fear was

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that the moment GM filed for Chapter 11, new

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car sales would go to absolute zero. Instantly.

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All revenue would stop. The company would die

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on the vine in a matter of days. So how did they

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solve that? It seems like a catch -22. The U

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.S. Treasury did something truly extraordinary.

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They explicitly committed to funding a government

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guarantee of GM's warranty liabilities. They

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set aside up to $360 .6 million and said, to

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the American consumer, even if GM disappears

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from the face of the earth, the United States

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government will honor your warranty. That is

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wild. So Uncle Sam became the mechanic of last

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resort. It was the only way to build a firewall

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and keep consumer confidence from completely

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evaporating. It was a crucial and often overlooked

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piece of the puzzle. OK, so they've solved the

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warranty problem. They've got a new CEO. The

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clock is ticking. This moves us to Section 3,

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the surgical bankruptcy. This is the legal meat

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of the story. This is where it gets really fascinating.

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So June 1st arrives. They are going to file.

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But they don't just walk into a courthouse in

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Detroit. They pull what the sources call the

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Harlem Maneuver. This is a great piece of legal

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trivia. It's a classic example of what's called

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venue shopping. So usually a company files for

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bankruptcy where it's headquartered, which would

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be Michigan for GM. Or where it's legally incorporated,

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which for most big companies is Delaware. Right.

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But GM's lawyers didn't want Michigan or Delaware.

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They wanted the Southern District of New York,

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Manhattan. They wanted the judges. Why? What's

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so special about the judges in Manhattan? The

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SDNY has a global reputation for handling massive,

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complex financial collapses. Think Lehman Brothers,

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WorldCom. They're sophisticated, they're experienced,

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and more importantly, they understand what's

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called the melting ice cube theory. The melting

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ice cube. The idea that a bankrupt company is

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like an ice cube sitting on a hot table. Every

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minute it sits there in legal limbo, it gets

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smaller, value disappears, assets degrade, customers

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leave. So you need to move fast. You need to

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move incredibly fast. And the SDNY judges are

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known for speed. The new CEO, Fritz Henderson,

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wanted this thing done in 60 to 90 days. But

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to file in New York... GM needed a legal reason

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to be there. They needed a venue connection.

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They needed an address in Manhattan. Exactly.

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They couldn't just pick it out of a hat. So on

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the morning of June 1st, literally hours before

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the main filing, a single tiny dealership, Chevrolet

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Saturn of Harlem, filed for bankruptcy. Just

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one dealership. One dealership that just happened

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to be a wholly owned subsidiary of the Maine

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General Motors Corporation. Ah, I see where this

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is going. Once that small case was officially

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open in a Manhattan courtroom, the Maine GM Corporation

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could then file its own massive case as an affiliate

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of the Harlem dealership. It was a clever, legal

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backdoor way to get the judge and the courthouse

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they wanted. That is incredibly sneaky and incredibly

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smart. It's high stakes corporate law. And it

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worked. They got their case in front of Judge

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Robert Gerber, who was known for exactly this

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kind of work. So they're in the right court.

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Now, explain the surgical part, because most

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bankruptcies we hear about. like a Chapter 11,

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involve creating a plan of reorganization. Right.

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And that's a long, drawn out process. You have

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to sit down with all your different classes of

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creditors, the banks, the bondholders, the unions,

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the suppliers. You negotiate for months. Everyone

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gets to vote on the plan. There are objections.

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It can take years. It often takes years. GM didn't

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have years. They didn't have months. They had

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weeks. So they used a specific part of the bankruptcy

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code, Section 363. And what does Section 363

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do? Section 363 allows a company in bankruptcy

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to sell its assets free and clear of any liens

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or claims. It's usually used for small things

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like selling off a factory nobody wants or a

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division of the company. But GM used it differently.

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GM used it to sell the entire company or at least

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all the good parts of it. Wait, sell it to who?

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They were broke. Who was the buyer? The buyer

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was a brand new company created out of thin air

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by the U .S. Treasury. And this is the absolute

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core concept of the entire bailout. This is the

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old GM versus new GM split. OK, let's break this

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down very carefully for everyone listening. We

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have two baskets. Exactly. Imagine two big baskets.

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Basket A is new GM. The technical name was NGMCO

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Inc., which stood for NGM Company Incorporated.

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Very creative. Very creative. Into this new GM

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basket, they use the section. The healthy organs.

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The healthy organs. And then you have the ownership

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of this new basket. Who owns New Diem? And this

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is where the government comes in. Big time. The

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U .S. Treasury took a 60 .8 % ownership stake.

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The UAW Union's retiree health crust, the VBA.

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got 17 .5%. The Canadian and Ontario governments,

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who also put in bailout money, got 11 .7%. And

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what about the bondholders, the people GM owed

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billions to? They got the remaining 10%, and

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they were furious about it, but they had to take

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it. So the government literally owned the majority

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of America's largest car company. Yes, hence

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the nickname that stuck for years, government

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motors. Now, what goes into basket B? The old

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GM. Everything else. All the toxic waste. The

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billions upon billions in unsecured debt. The

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bad labor contracts. All the closed factories

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that needed to be environmentally remediated.

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All the pending lawsuits. All of that stayed

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behind in the old legal entity. And what was

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that old entity called? It was officially renamed

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Motors Liquidation Company. And its stock ticker

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symbol changed from GMGMQ to MTLQQ. And what

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happened to that basket? What was its purpose?

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It was left to die. Its only job was to exist

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in bankruptcy. Corpsey Court for years, slowly

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selling off whatever scrap it could. An old factory

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for pennies on the dollar to pay back its creditors,

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a tiny fraction of what they were owed. So what

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about the shareholders? This is the critical

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question. If I was a retiree and I own GM stock

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on May 31st and this whole split happens on June

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1st, do I now own stock in the shiny new GM?

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No. And this is the part that burned thousands

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and thousands of small retail investors who didn't

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understand what was happening. What did they

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own? If you own GM stock, you owned a piece of

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the old GM. You owned a piece of the Motors Liquidation

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Company. You owned a piece of the toxic wastebasket.

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Correct. Which had no real assets and all the

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debt. The company's management was legally required

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to be explicit about this. They put out statements

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saying there will be no value for the common

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stockholders of old GM. Zero. But people didn't

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believe it. People didn't understand it. They

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saw the stock still trading under the new ticker

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MTLQQ. And they thought, oh, GM is in bankruptcy.

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It's cheap. It's a buying opportunity. It's bound

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to recover. They were buying shares of a corpse.

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That is just tragic. People buying the stock

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thinking it's a dip when it's actually a funeral.

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It really highlights the danger of not understanding

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the complex mechanics of corporate bankruptcy.

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The old stock was wiped out completely. And as

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a final symbol of this shift. GM was kicked out

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of the Dow Jones Industrial Average, right? Yes,

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effective June 8, 2009. After decades as a bellwether

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of the American economy, it was removed and replaced

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by Cisco Systems. The old industrial economy

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being replaced by the new tech economy. You couldn't

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ask for a more perfect symbol. It was the end

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of an era, written on the stock ticker. So the

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new GM drives away, effectively debt -free. How

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much debt did they actually shed in this process?

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It was staggering. Old GM went into bankruptcy

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with about $94 .7 billion in debt. New GM emerged

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with only $17 billion. You just evaporated almost

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$80 billion in liabilities. Poof. Gone. Left

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behind in the liquidation company. Imagine you're

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trying to run a race with a 100 -pound backpack

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on, and suddenly someone just cuts the straps.

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You are going to run a lot faster. But to run

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faster... they also had to lose some weight from

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the company itself. Which brings us to section

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four, the garage sale. The brand restructuring.

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This is the emotional part for the car lovers,

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for the people who grew up with these brands.

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It really is. Because for years, GM was defined

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by its brands. Alfred Sloan's old strategy of

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a car for every person purpose. A brilliant strategy

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in the 1930s. But by 2009, it had become a mess

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of overlapping, cannibalizing products. They

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had too many brands that were all competing with

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each other. So they had to choose the survivors.

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They whittled it down to the core four. Chevrolet,

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Cadillac, GMC, and... Buick. Those were the ones

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that would form the foundation of the new GM.

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Now, Buick, I feel like we have to address the

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elephant in the room here. In 2009, in America,

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Buick was seen as, well, a car for grandparents.

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That's putting it kindly. So why keep that and

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kill off a brand like Pontiac, which at least

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had some history of excitement and performance?

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The answer is one word, China. Really? Absolutely.

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In China, Buick is a massive prestige brand.

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It has a historical connection. The last emperor

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of China drove a Buick. Sun Yat -sen, the founder

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of the republic, drove a Buick. For historical

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reasons, it was seen as a premium, almost luxury

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status symbol. So while it was dying in the U

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.S.? It was practically printing money for GM

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in China. It was one of their most profitable

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operations anywhere in the world. If they had

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killed the Buick brand globally, they would have

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destroyed their most important and fastest growing

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overseas market. Wow. So the American lineup

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of a classic American brand was saved entirely

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by Chinese consumers. 100%. If Buick had to rely

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only on the U .S. market for survival, it would

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have been gone. No question. Okay. So let's talk

00:24:16.279 --> 00:24:17.539
about the ones that didn't make it, the trimmed

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fat. Let's start with Pontiac. The excitement

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division. GTO, Firebird, Trans Am. So much history

00:24:23.539 --> 00:24:25.960
there. So much. But what was the problem with

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it by 2009? The problem was that for the past

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15 years, it had just become rebadged Chevrolets

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with extra plastic cladding and, you know, a

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red dashboard. It had lost its soul. The G8 was

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a great car at the end, but it was too little,

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too late. And they just shut it down. Yeah. On

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April 24, 2009, even before the bankruptcy, they

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announced it was over. There was no buyer. It

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was just going to be discontinued. A slow fade

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to black. And then there's Hummer, the ultimate

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symbol of the pre -recession cheap gas era. Hummer

00:24:55.359 --> 00:24:58.680
was a victim of timing more than anything. When

00:24:58.680 --> 00:25:02.019
gasoline is $1 .50 a gallon, everyone wants a

00:25:02.019 --> 00:25:04.359
giant military -style truck. It looks powerful.

00:25:04.680 --> 00:25:06.960
But when gas hits $4 a gallon and the economy

00:25:06.960 --> 00:25:09.779
crashes. Driving a 9 -mile -per -gallon tank

00:25:09.779 --> 00:25:12.220
to the grocery store suddenly looks ridiculous

00:25:12.220 --> 00:25:14.819
and incredibly expensive. The market for it just

00:25:14.819 --> 00:25:16.960
vanished overnight. But they did try to sell

00:25:16.960 --> 00:25:18.900
it, right, to a Chinese company? They did, a

00:25:18.900 --> 00:25:21.640
company called Sichuan Tangzong. which was a

00:25:21.640 --> 00:25:23.779
heavy machinery maker. They had a deal in place,

00:25:23.859 --> 00:25:26.140
but the Chinese government itself in Beijing

00:25:26.140 --> 00:25:28.200
actually blocked the deal. They were trying to

00:25:28.200 --> 00:25:30.559
push their domestic auto industry towards more

00:25:30.559 --> 00:25:33.039
fuel efficient, environmentally friendly cars.

00:25:33.339 --> 00:25:35.960
The last thing they wanted was to import a brand

00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:39.480
that was the symbol of gas guzzling excess. So

00:25:39.480 --> 00:25:41.660
the deal fell through and Hummer was declared

00:25:41.660 --> 00:25:44.960
defunct in May 2010. And then there's Saturn.

00:25:45.599 --> 00:25:48.079
I wonder if it's a bit. It was launched as the

00:25:48.079 --> 00:25:50.720
different kind of car company. No haggle pricing,

00:25:50.940 --> 00:25:54.400
friendly dealers. Saturn had a genuine cult following,

00:25:54.539 --> 00:25:56.900
and they were so close to being saved. This was

00:25:56.900 --> 00:25:59.420
a real nail -biter. What happened? Roger Penske,

00:25:59.539 --> 00:26:01.779
the racing legend, the trucking and dealership

00:26:01.779 --> 00:26:04.559
mogul, put together a deal to buy the brand,

00:26:04.720 --> 00:26:06.859
the dealerships, everything. That sounds like

00:26:06.859 --> 00:26:09.019
a dream team. Penske running Saturn would have

00:26:09.019 --> 00:26:10.559
been amazing. It would have been fascinating.

00:26:10.880 --> 00:26:14.259
But here's the snag. Penske is a dealer and a

00:26:14.259 --> 00:26:17.000
logistics guy. He doesn't manufacture cars. He

00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:18.720
needed someone to build the cars for him after

00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:20.940
the GM supply ran out. Okay, so who was he going

00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:23.180
to partner with? He was in deep talks with Renault

00:26:23.180 --> 00:26:25.799
Samsung in South Korea to supply the next generation

00:26:25.799 --> 00:26:28.220
of vehicles that would be badged as Saturns.

00:26:28.500 --> 00:26:31.160
And the deal was apparently all but done. At

00:26:31.160 --> 00:26:33.700
the 11th hour, the Renault board in France rejected

00:26:33.700 --> 00:26:36.059
the deal. We still don't know the exact reasons

00:26:36.059 --> 00:26:38.940
why, but with that, Penske's supply chain disappeared.

00:26:39.680 --> 00:26:42.480
He had a brand and a dealer network, but no cars

00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:45.420
to sell. He had to walk away. Wow. So Saturn

00:26:45.420 --> 00:26:47.579
died because of a boardroom decision in Paris?

00:26:47.859 --> 00:26:50.599
Essentially, yes. It was declared defunct in

00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:54.660
October 2010. And finally, Saab, the quirky Swedish

00:26:54.660 --> 00:26:58.759
jet fighter brand. Saab was just a long, painful

00:26:58.759 --> 00:27:02.640
saga. GM sold it to a tiny, obscure Dutch supercar

00:27:02.640 --> 00:27:05.359
maker called Spiker Cars. It was like a minnow

00:27:05.359 --> 00:27:07.660
swallowing a whale. It never had a chance. And

00:27:07.660 --> 00:27:10.259
it failed. It failed spectacularly. Saab limped

00:27:10.259 --> 00:27:12.079
along for a couple of years and then went bankrupt

00:27:12.079 --> 00:27:14.700
for good in 2012. So the landscape of the American

00:27:14.700 --> 00:27:16.799
highway really changed. We lost a lot of variety.

00:27:16.960 --> 00:27:20.339
We did. And GM also tried to scrub its own corporate

00:27:20.339 --> 00:27:22.359
identity from the cars. Do you remember the little

00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:24.819
GM chiclet? The little blue square logo on the

00:27:24.819 --> 00:27:26.500
door panel? Yeah. Yes, the Mark of Excellence

00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:29.079
logo that was on every single GM car, no matter

00:27:29.079 --> 00:27:31.019
the brand. They stripped it off. They went for

00:27:31.019 --> 00:27:33.980
a corporate invisible brand architecture. They

00:27:33.980 --> 00:27:36.059
wanted you to buy a Chevy because it was a Chevy,

00:27:36.220 --> 00:27:39.299
not because it was a GM product. The GM name

00:27:39.299 --> 00:27:42.839
itself had become toxic. They were ashamed of

00:27:42.839 --> 00:27:46.000
the parent brand and what it represented. Bankruptcy

00:27:46.000 --> 00:27:49.220
and failure. That is a powerful marketing shift.

00:27:49.380 --> 00:27:51.759
Yeah. To actively admit that your own corporate

00:27:51.759 --> 00:27:54.660
name is poison. It was a necessary survival tactic.

00:27:55.240 --> 00:27:58.140
Let's move to Section 5, the human and financial

00:27:58.140 --> 00:28:01.500
cost. Because we talk about brands dying, but

00:28:01.500 --> 00:28:03.720
brands don't have families to feed. People do.

00:28:03.859 --> 00:28:05.920
This is the heavy part. The restructuring was,

00:28:06.019 --> 00:28:09.240
I mean, it was brutal on the human level. Let's

00:28:09.240 --> 00:28:11.200
start with the dealerships. Because these weren't

00:28:11.200 --> 00:28:13.799
just corporate -owned stores. These are franchises,

00:28:13.819 --> 00:28:16.319
family businesses. Right. A dealership in a small

00:28:16.319 --> 00:28:18.900
town is usually a multi -generational, family

00:28:18.900 --> 00:28:21.019
-owned business. It's the sponsor of the high

00:28:21.019 --> 00:28:22.940
school football team. It's a pillar of the community.

00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:24.990
And what happened to them? In the transition

00:28:24.990 --> 00:28:28.109
from old GM to new GM, they used the bankruptcy

00:28:28.109 --> 00:28:30.910
process to terminate hundreds of franchise agreements.

00:28:31.309 --> 00:28:34.710
The dealership network was cut from about 5 ,900

00:28:34.710 --> 00:28:38.490
down to about 5 ,000. So nearly 1 ,000 businesses

00:28:38.490 --> 00:28:41.549
were just told, you're out. Basically, they received

00:28:41.549 --> 00:28:43.589
a form letter in the mail saying their franchise

00:28:43.589 --> 00:28:45.990
agreement would not be assumed by the new GM.

00:28:46.650 --> 00:28:49.769
It was cold. It unleashed a fury of lawsuits

00:28:49.769 --> 00:28:52.509
and political blowback. But legally, because

00:28:52.509 --> 00:28:54.849
New GM was a new company, it didn't have to take

00:28:54.849 --> 00:28:57.289
them. Devastating for those families. What about

00:28:57.289 --> 00:29:00.589
the factories? They closed 13 plants across the

00:29:00.589 --> 00:29:03.250
country. The number of U .S. plants went from

00:29:03.250 --> 00:29:06.690
47 down to 34. And the workforce, the employees?

00:29:06.890 --> 00:29:09.609
U .S. employee count went from 91 ,000 down to

00:29:09.609 --> 00:29:14.230
68 ,500. So over 20 ,000 jobs. Evaporated. Gone.

00:29:14.369 --> 00:29:16.930
And we are talking about, you know, minimum wage

00:29:16.930 --> 00:29:19.470
gig economy jobs. These were high paying UAW

00:29:19.470 --> 00:29:22.609
union jobs, good wages, pensions, health care,

00:29:22.710 --> 00:29:24.730
the kind of jobs that support a middle class

00:29:24.730 --> 00:29:27.710
life. When you lose 20 ,000 of those jobs, you

00:29:27.710 --> 00:29:30.609
don't just affect 20 ,000 families. You devastate

00:29:30.609 --> 00:29:33.150
entire zip codes. Towns like Flint, Pontiac,

00:29:33.250 --> 00:29:35.950
Detroit, Lordstown, they took a massive, massive

00:29:35.950 --> 00:29:37.329
hit that some of them still haven't recovered

00:29:37.329 --> 00:29:39.589
from. And even at the top, they cut perks, right?

00:29:39.690 --> 00:29:42.160
Like the corporate jets. Oh, yeah. One of the

00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:45.059
very first motions filed in bankruptcy court

00:29:45.059 --> 00:29:48.180
was to void the leases on seven corporate jets

00:29:48.180 --> 00:29:50.559
and a private hangar at the Detroit airport.

00:29:51.240 --> 00:29:53.519
After that PR disaster, the jets had to be the

00:29:53.519 --> 00:29:55.700
first thing to go. So let's talk about the cost

00:29:55.700 --> 00:29:57.819
of the taxpayer, because this is the question

00:29:57.819 --> 00:30:00.180
I always hear at the bar. You know, we bailed

00:30:00.180 --> 00:30:01.740
them out. Did we ever get our money back? And

00:30:01.740 --> 00:30:05.500
the answer is it's complicated. It really depends

00:30:05.500 --> 00:30:07.259
on how you do the math. There are two ways to

00:30:07.259 --> 00:30:08.980
look at it. OK, let's do the simple math first.

00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:11.339
Cash in, cash out. All right. The U .S. Treasury,

00:30:11.559 --> 00:30:14.200
through the TARP program, invested a total of

00:30:14.200 --> 00:30:19.279
$51 billion to create and fund the new GM. $51

00:30:19.279 --> 00:30:22.380
billion. And in exchange, they got that 60 .8

00:30:22.380 --> 00:30:24.880
% ownership stake. Correct. Then over the next

00:30:24.880 --> 00:30:27.460
few years, as GM recovered and went public again,

00:30:27.700 --> 00:30:30.660
the Treasury slowly sold off that stake on the

00:30:30.660 --> 00:30:32.980
open market. They sold the stock back to private

00:30:32.980 --> 00:30:35.359
investors. Right. They finished selling the very

00:30:35.359 --> 00:30:38.319
last share in December of 2013. The total amount

00:30:38.319 --> 00:30:40.000
they recovered from all those sales was about

00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:44.200
$39 billion. Okay, so $51 billion out, $39 billion

00:30:44.200 --> 00:30:47.619
back in. That's a loss of $12 billion. Correct.

00:30:47.680 --> 00:30:50.799
The final direct cost of the GM bailout to the

00:30:50.799 --> 00:30:53.000
U .S. Treasury was a loss of between $11 and

00:30:53.000 --> 00:30:55.960
$12 billion. So the critics can point to that

00:30:55.960 --> 00:30:59.740
and say, see, a waste of taxpayer money. We lost

00:30:59.740 --> 00:31:03.299
$12 billion. They can, and they do. But, and

00:31:03.299 --> 00:31:05.589
this is a very big but. You have to look at the

00:31:05.589 --> 00:31:07.190
alternative. You can't just look at the cost.

00:31:07.250 --> 00:31:08.930
You have to look at the cost of doing nothing.

00:31:09.069 --> 00:31:11.309
What would that have been? The Center for Automotive

00:31:11.309 --> 00:31:13.609
Research, a respected think tank, ran a study

00:31:13.609 --> 00:31:16.190
on this. They modeled what would have happened

00:31:16.190 --> 00:31:19.029
if GM had been forced into a full liquidation.

00:31:19.029 --> 00:31:20.769
If they had just locked the doors and sold off

00:31:20.769 --> 00:31:23.279
the parts. If GM had locked the doors, the cascade

00:31:23.279 --> 00:31:25.500
of failures in the supplier network would have

00:31:25.500 --> 00:31:28.660
been so severe that Ford and Chrysler would have

00:31:28.660 --> 00:31:30.960
been forced to stop production, too, because

00:31:30.960 --> 00:31:33.059
they all use some of the same critical parts

00:31:33.059 --> 00:31:36.119
suppliers. So it wasn't just GM at risk. A GM

00:31:36.119 --> 00:31:38.480
failure would have taken Ford down with it, even

00:31:38.480 --> 00:31:40.839
though Ford didn't take a bailout. Exactly. The

00:31:40.839 --> 00:31:42.859
entire North American auto industry would have

00:31:42.859 --> 00:31:45.440
ground to a halt. The study estimated that the

00:31:45.440 --> 00:31:49.480
bailout saved, directly and indirectly, 1 .2

00:31:49.480 --> 00:31:52.500
million jobs. across the economy. A million jobs.

00:31:52.799 --> 00:31:57.240
And it preserved $34 .9 billion in tax revenue

00:31:57.240 --> 00:31:59.900
that those 1 .2 million workers and all those

00:31:59.900 --> 00:32:01.859
companies would have paid. So if you do the math

00:32:01.859 --> 00:32:07.079
that way, we spent $12 billion to save $35 billion

00:32:07.079 --> 00:32:10.579
in taxes, not to mention avoiding a million people

00:32:10.579 --> 00:32:12.980
on unemployment. That is the return on investment

00:32:12.980 --> 00:32:15.660
argument. That it wasn't a gift to a car company.

00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.559
It was an emergency investment in macroeconomic

00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:21.339
stability. That makes the $12 billion loss look

00:32:21.339 --> 00:32:23.140
like a pretty cheap insurance policy for the

00:32:23.140 --> 00:32:25.099
entire economy. It does. But it doesn't make

00:32:25.099 --> 00:32:27.359
it any less controversial, does it? Because the

00:32:27.359 --> 00:32:29.599
government explicitly picked winners and losers.

00:32:29.880 --> 00:32:32.099
How so? The bondholder's sophisticated investors

00:32:32.099 --> 00:32:34.619
who lent GM money got crushed. They got maybe

00:32:34.619 --> 00:32:37.299
10 cents on the dollar. Meanwhile, the UAW's

00:32:37.299 --> 00:32:39.259
health fund was protected and given a huge stake

00:32:39.259 --> 00:32:41.859
in the new company. That created a lot of legal

00:32:41.859 --> 00:32:43.559
and political anger that last night. lasted for

00:32:43.559 --> 00:32:46.680
years. People felt the rules of capitalism were

00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:49.619
bent to favor a political constituency. So let's

00:32:49.619 --> 00:32:51.400
wrap this up with the aftermath. Section six

00:32:51.400 --> 00:32:55.240
emergence. How fast did this whole surgical bankruptcy

00:32:55.240 --> 00:32:57.119
actually happen? This is the mind blowing part.

00:32:57.240 --> 00:32:59.180
We talked about how the courts in New York move

00:32:59.180 --> 00:33:01.779
fast. Yeah. The bankruptcy was filed on June

00:33:01.779 --> 00:33:05.500
1st. The Section 363 sale of the assets from

00:33:05.500 --> 00:33:08.579
old GM to new GM was approved by the judge and

00:33:08.579 --> 00:33:12.240
closed on July 10th. 40 days. 40 days. 40 days

00:33:12.240 --> 00:33:14.759
to restructure one of the largest and most complex

00:33:14.759 --> 00:33:17.440
corporations in the history of the world. It

00:33:17.440 --> 00:33:20.099
was absolute lightning speed. Unheard of. And

00:33:20.099 --> 00:33:25.220
on July 11th, 2009, new GM wakes up. What does

00:33:25.220 --> 00:33:28.160
it look like? It looks healthy. For the first

00:33:28.160 --> 00:33:30.500
time in decades, it has a clean balance sheet.

00:33:30.579 --> 00:33:33.599
It has that manageable $17 billion in debt instead

00:33:33.599 --> 00:33:36.980
of nearly $100 billion. And it has over $40 billion

00:33:36.980 --> 00:33:40.200
in cash in the bank taxpayer cash, mostly ready

00:33:40.200 --> 00:33:42.039
to be invested in new products and technology.

00:33:42.119 --> 00:33:44.500
And a new board of directors. The old guard was

00:33:44.500 --> 00:33:46.599
gone. Completely gone. The government cleaned

00:33:46.599 --> 00:33:49.259
house. Ed Whitaker, the former CEO of AT &amp;T,

00:33:49.299 --> 00:33:51.019
was brought in as the new chairman. They brought

00:33:51.019 --> 00:33:53.359
in people from telecom, from finance, from outside

00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:55.779
the auto industry. They intentionally broke up

00:33:55.779 --> 00:33:57.680
the Detroit Old Boys Club. And they went public

00:33:57.680 --> 00:34:00.440
again pretty quickly, right? The IPO? November

00:34:00.440 --> 00:34:04.519
of 2010. Less than 18 months after emerging from

00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:06.480
bankruptcy, they launched one of the biggest

00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:09.539
IPOs in history. General Motors was back on the

00:34:09.539 --> 00:34:11.440
New York Stock Exchange. But not the old stock.

00:34:11.639 --> 00:34:15.960
No. A brand new ticker symbol. GM. The old ticker

00:34:15.960 --> 00:34:20.119
symbol, MTLQQ, eventually flatlined to zero and

00:34:20.119 --> 00:34:22.639
was canceled, disappearing forever. This whole

00:34:22.639 --> 00:34:25.900
story, it's so complex, it feels like a heist

00:34:25.900 --> 00:34:28.179
movie, but a legal one. That's a great way to

00:34:28.179 --> 00:34:30.599
describe it. It was a rescue mission that used

00:34:30.599 --> 00:34:33.260
the tools of a heist. They used the power of

00:34:33.260 --> 00:34:35.639
the bankruptcy court to tunnel in, grab the good

00:34:35.639 --> 00:34:37.840
assets, and steal them away from the bad debt

00:34:37.840 --> 00:34:40.460
to save the patient's life. So as we close out,

00:34:40.480 --> 00:34:42.300
I want to leave the listener with a final thought.

00:34:42.639 --> 00:34:45.820
We use the phrase, too big to fail. But the story

00:34:45.820 --> 00:34:49.559
of GM is more complicated. GM did fail. It absolutely

00:34:49.559 --> 00:34:51.800
failed. It went bankrupt. The management was

00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:53.719
fired. The shareholders were completely wiped

00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.480
out. The bondholders took massive losses. That

00:34:56.480 --> 00:34:59.000
is a crucial distinction. The corporation failed.

00:34:59.079 --> 00:35:01.559
The investors in that corporation failed. But

00:35:01.559 --> 00:35:04.760
the operations, the factories, the jobs, the

00:35:04.760 --> 00:35:07.420
engineering talent, the supply chain were deemed

00:35:07.420 --> 00:35:10.039
too important to the country to be allowed to

00:35:10.039 --> 00:35:13.300
stop. It creates this. fascinating and maybe

00:35:13.300 --> 00:35:16.440
dangerous precedent. If you are big enough and

00:35:16.440 --> 00:35:18.940
integrated enough into the economy, the government

00:35:18.940 --> 00:35:22.119
will let your corporate shell die legally, but

00:35:22.119 --> 00:35:24.219
they will reincarnate your productive body so

00:35:24.219 --> 00:35:26.099
the economy keeps moving. It's the difference

00:35:26.099 --> 00:35:28.139
between saving the capitalists and saving the

00:35:28.139 --> 00:35:30.519
capital. In this case, we save the capital, the

00:35:30.519 --> 00:35:33.159
machines and the workers. We let the capitalists,

00:35:33.159 --> 00:35:35.440
the shareholders and many of the lenders take

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:38.070
the hit. But the flip side of that is we also

00:35:38.070 --> 00:35:40.130
let the new GM walk away from so many of its

00:35:40.130 --> 00:35:41.969
past mistakes. Yeah. They left the pollution

00:35:41.969 --> 00:35:44.250
at old factory sites, the bad contracts, the

00:35:44.250 --> 00:35:46.829
pending lawsuits. All of that was left behind

00:35:46.829 --> 00:35:48.969
in the old GM grave for someone else to deal

00:35:48.969 --> 00:35:51.849
with. Is that fair? That is the $172 billion

00:35:51.849 --> 00:35:54.909
question, isn't it? It saved an industry, but

00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:57.190
it completely rewrote the rules of bankruptcy

00:35:57.190 --> 00:35:59.769
for megacorporations. It proved that Section

00:35:59.769 --> 00:36:02.449
363 could be used to effectively nationalize

00:36:02.449 --> 00:36:05.449
and then reprivatize an American icon in 40 days.

00:36:05.650 --> 00:36:07.469
So here's something to think about. If you're

00:36:07.469 --> 00:36:09.869
listening to this in a car, take a look at the

00:36:09.869 --> 00:36:12.650
logo on your steering wheel. If it's a GM car

00:36:12.650 --> 00:36:15.550
from before mid 2009, it was built by a ghost.

00:36:16.010 --> 00:36:18.690
a company that legally no longer exists. And

00:36:18.690 --> 00:36:20.949
if it's from after mid -2009, it was built by

00:36:20.949 --> 00:36:22.789
a completely different company, one born in a

00:36:22.789 --> 00:36:25.269
courtroom in Manhattan, bankrolled by your tax

00:36:25.269 --> 00:36:27.389
dollars and carrying none of the baggage of its

00:36:27.389 --> 00:36:29.889
ancestor. And that is a legacy that is still

00:36:29.889 --> 00:36:31.889
driving down the road today. Thanks for diving

00:36:31.889 --> 00:36:33.409
deep with us. We'll catch you on the next one.
