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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are going

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to do something a little different. I want you

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to picture a shelf in a used video game store,

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or maybe, you know, the bottom rack at a Goodwill.

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You're scanning the spines of the DVDs, white,

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black, clear cases, and then suddenly you see

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it. A flash of translucent crimson red. The mark

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of the fallen. The mark of the fallen, indeed.

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We are talking about HD DVD. If you know the

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name, you probably know it as the punchline to

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a joke. It's the Betamax of the 2000s. Right.

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The format that took on Sony's Blu -ray and got

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absolutely crushed. It's often remembered as

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a cautionary tale of, you know, backing the wrong

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horse. But that narrative is actually incredibly

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reductive. When you really dig into the engineering

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papers, corporate memos and the timeline, HD

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DVD wasn't some cheap knockoff. In many ways,

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it was the superior product, at least initially.

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That's what we're doing today. We aren't just

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burying the body. We're doing the autopsy. We're

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going to look at the technology that was arguably

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ahead of its time, the corporate alliances that

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turned Hollywood into a battlefield, and the

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single month, January 2008. where a billion dollars

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effectively evaporated into thin air. And we

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have to talk about the Internet culture aspect

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of this, too. Oh, yeah. Because while the suits

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were fighting in boardrooms, there was a massive

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guerrilla war happening on forums and tech blogs.

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This was the first time the Internet really tried

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to break a physical format security, and they

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succeeded in spectacular fashion. Oh, the APS

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hack. Yeah. We're definitely getting into the

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dig revolt later. Yeah. But let's start with

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the context. It's the mid -2000s. We all just

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bought these heavy... expensive flat screen TVs.

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Well, it's the first plasmas and LCDs. They say

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HD ready on the box. We plug them in, turn on

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the cable box, and it looks like garbage. It

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looked awful. Right. You have this 720p or 1080i

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display, but you're feeding it a standard definition

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signal from a DVD or analog cable. The pixels

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are being stretched. It looked muddy. The hardware

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was there, but the content wasn't. We needed

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a new disc. But why did we need a new laser?

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This is the fundamental physics question. A DVD

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holds 4 .7 gigabytes. Why couldn't we just squeeze

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more data onto it? It comes down to the diffraction

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limit of light. Think of a DVD player, like a

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record player. You have a track spiraling out,

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and you have pits and lands representing the

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ones and zeros. To get high -definition 1080p

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video, uncompressed audio, you need to store

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about five or six times as much data as a standard

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movie. So you need smaller pits, denser spiral

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tracks. Exactly. But you can't read those smaller

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pits with the old laser. Standard DVDs use a

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red laser, which has a wavelength of 650 nanometers.

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If you try to read tiny HD data with a red laser,

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the beam is too fat. It's like trying to read

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a fine print contract with a thick Sharpie. You

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just blur everything together. So the industry

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had to move down the spectrum. Towards the blue

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violet end, both HD DVD and Blu -ray utilized

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a blue violet laser with a wavelength of 405

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nanometers. That shorter wavelength allows the

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beam to be focused much, much tighter. I remember

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reading about the specific beam spot size. It's

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significantly smaller. Oh, it's a huge difference.

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It allows for a track pitch, that's the distance

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between the spirals of data, to shrink from 0

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.74 micrometers on a DVD down to 0 .40 micrometers

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on HD DVD. Wow. That tightening of the spiral

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is where you get your capacity. And that capacity

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jump was massive. We went from roughly 4 .7 kilobyte

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on a DVD to 15 kilobyte on a single -layer HD

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DVD. And 30 kilobyte on a dual -layer, which

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pretty quickly became the standard for most movies.

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And Blu -ray was even more right. They were promising

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50 kilobyte. They were. Blu -ray had a slightly

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higher numerical aperture on its lens, which

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let them focus the beam even tighter. So their

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capacity was 25 kilobytes per layer. So 50 kilobytes

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for a dual -layer disc. Okay, so the physics,

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the blue laser. is the same for both HD DVD and

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Blu -ray. Sony and Toshiba both agreed, we need

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blue lasers. So why didn't they just high -five

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and build one format? Why did Toshiba peel off

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and say, no, we're doing our own thing? This

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is the billion -dollar question, and the answer

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isn't about lasers. It's about plastic molding.

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It's about the factory floor. The manufacturing

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process. Right. Toshiba looked at the global

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infrastructure for making DVDs. There were thousands

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of these pressing plants. Toshiba's engineers

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designed HD DVD to be physically identical to

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a standard DVD in terms of layer depth. How so?

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The data sits 0 .6 millimeters beneath the surface

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of the disc. Which is exactly where it sits on

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a regular DVD. Precisely. This meant that a factory

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owner could take a standard DVD production line,

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spend a few minutes swapping out the stamper

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and doing a quick recalibration, and boom, they're

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printing HD DVDs. Wow. The capital expenditure,

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the capex, was minimal. It was a software upgrade

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for the factory. Where's Blu -ray? Blu -ray was

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a radical redesign. Sony decided to put the data

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layer just 0 .1 millimeters from the surface,

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almost right on top of the disc. Why do that?

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What was the advantage? Theoretically, it reduces

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something called birefringence. which is when

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the laser beam splits as it passes through the

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plastic. By having the layer so close to the

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surface, they could use a more powerful lens

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and get that higher data density we mentioned.

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Okay, so there was an engineering reason. There

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was. But practically, in 2006, it was a nightmare

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because the data was so close to the surface,

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if you sneezed on it, you scratched the data.

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I remember the early prototypes had those caddies,

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like the old mini disks. Yes. They were terrified

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of scratches. They eventually developed a hard

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coat polymer to protect it, pioneered by TDK.

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But the manufacturing implications were huge.

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You couldn't use a DVD line. You had to build

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entirely new factories, new molding machines,

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new bonding processes. It was expensive. So Kashiba's

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pitch to the Hollywood studios and the replicators

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was, hey, we can give you HD and it won't cost

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you a fortune to retool your supply chain. It

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was a very compelling economic argument. Evolution,

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not revolution. And that's why initially the

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governing body of the industry sided with them.

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The DVD forum. This is where the politics start

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getting messy. The DVD forum is the group that

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holds the trademark for the DVD logo. If you

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want to put that DVD logo on your player, you

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answer to them. In the early 2000s, they had

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to choose a successor. And there wasn't just

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two options, right? There were a few. Oh, yeah.

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There was a Warner Bros. proposal to just use

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a special high density DVD nine disc. But it

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came down to two main camps, Toshiba and NEC

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with their advanced optical disc and Sony and

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Phillips with what was then called DVR Blue,

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which became Blu -ray. And in 2003, they voted.

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They did. And they voted to approve the advanced

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optical disc, which was renamed HD -DVD. So,

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legally speaking, HD -DVD was the official successor.

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Blu -ray was the rogue faction. It's funny to

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think of Sony as the rebel alliance here. They

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were. They broke away from the forum and created

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their own consortium, the Blu -ray Disc Association.

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But they had the weight of the PlayStation behind

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them, which we'll get to. But before the war

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fully broke out, there was a moment where peace

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seemed possible. The failed peace treaty of 2005.

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This is one of the great what -ifs of consumer

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electronics. In 2005, Kunitake Ando from Sony

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and Teraki Ryug from Toshiba actually met. They

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knew a format war would hurt sales. Consumers

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hate confusion. They tried to merge the formats.

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I've read about this. The idea was to maybe use

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the Sony physical disk. the 50 GB Blu -ray structure,

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but use the Toshiba software and file structure.

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That was one proposal. Another was to create

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a hybrid disk that contained both. But it fell

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apart over two main issues. First, the physical

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structure. Toshiba just did not want to give

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up that manufacturing advantage we just discussed.

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It was their ace in the hole. And what was the

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other issue? The second wedge was software. And

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this is where Microsoft enters the chat. Microsoft

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hated Blu -ray, like actively despised it. They

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did. Because Blu -ray chose Java, specifically

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a version called BDJ, as its interactive layer.

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Sun Microsystems Java. Right. And you have to

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remember, in the mid -2000s, Microsoft and Sun

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were not friends. Microsoft viewed Java as a

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platform threat to Windows. They didn't want

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Java becoming the standard operating language

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for the living room. So Microsoft threw its weight

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behind HD DVD. because Toshiba agreed to use

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IHD. Yes, later called HDI for High Definition

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Interactive. It was based on XML, HTML, CSS,

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and JavaScript. It was web tech. Stuff that web

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developers already knew. Exactly. Microsoft argued

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it was lighter, faster, and easier to code for.

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And honestly? They were right. We'll get to the

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user experience in a bit, but I remember early

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Blu -ray menus being sluggish disasters compared

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to HD DVD. Because Jada is heavy, it requires

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a virtual machine to run. Asking a 2006 Arrow

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disc player chip to run in Java VM was like asking

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a pocket calculator to run Photoshop. It was

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brutal. So the peace talks collapse in August

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2005. The lines are drawn. On the red side, Toshiba,

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NEC, Sanyo, Microsoft, Intel. A huge part of

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the PC ecosystem. And on the blue side, Sony,

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Philips, Panasonic, Pioneer, Dell, Apple. All

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the big consumer electronics giants. And HP was

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this interesting wild card. They tried to broker

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a deal demanding Blu -ray use Microsoft's IHD.

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When Blu -ray refused, HP threatened to support

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HD DVD. It was a mess. A massive corporate proxy

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war. The PC industry largely leaned toward HD

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-DVD because of the easier file structure and

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managed copy features. Which we'll get to. The

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consumer electronics giants leaned toward Blu

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-ray because they wanted the higher potential

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capacity and, frankly, the patent royalties.

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Oh, yeah. The royalties were a huge part of the

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calculation for Sony. So let's go to launch day.

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HD -DDD hits the market first. March 31st, 2006

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in Japan. April 18th in the U .S. They beat Blu

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-ray by a solid two months. The first player

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was the Toshiba HD -A1. It was a tank. Have you

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ever lifted one of these? It weighed nearly 20

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pounds. It was an absolute monster. I have, and

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I remember the boot time. You'd press the power

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button, go make a sandwich, come back, and maybe

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the tray would be open. That's because it wasn't

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really a consumer electronics device. It was

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a Pentium 4 computer stuffed into a VCR casing

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running a custom version of Linux. It was a prototype

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sold as a product. So it was literally a PC.

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It was. But... It worked. The first movies were

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The Last Samurai, Million Dollar Baby, and The

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Phantom of the Opera. And they looked amazing.

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It did, and it was $499. Which sounds like a

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lot, but the first Samsung Blu -ray player that

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launched a few months later was $1 ,000. $1 ,000.

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A grand. And the picture quality on the Toshiba

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was arguably better at launch because they used

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better codecs. Let's talk about that picture

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quality, because I think people assume Blu -ray

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won because it looked better. But in 2006, that

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wasn't true at all, was it? Not at all. In fact,

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the first batch of Blu -ray releases were disastrous.

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Sony was so rushed to get to market, they used

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the old MPEG -2 compression, the same stuff used

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on standard DVDs, just at a higher bitrate. But

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MPEG -2 is really inefficient for high definition.

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It's terrible for HD. So the launch title, The

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Fifth Element on Blu -ray, looked awful. It was

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grainy, full of compression artifacts. It was

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barely better than an upscale DVD. And HD -DVD.

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HD -DVD launched using VC1, which was Microsoft's

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advanced video codec, a descendant of Windows

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Media Video. It was hyper -efficient. So even

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though HD -DVD had less storage space, 30 GB,

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versus Blu -ray's potential 50 GB, the video

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looked cleaner because the compression was smarter.

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This connects to the modern day, actually, the

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VC1 codec. That's the grandfather of the streaming

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codecs we use now. Absolutely. The codec war

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inside the format war was just as important.

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Eventually, both formats adopted AVC or H .264,

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which is what runs YouTube and Netflix and basically

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all internet video today. But HD DVD championed

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those advanced codecs first. And the audio was

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better too, right? Mandatory support for Dolby

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True HD and DTS HD high -resolution audio. Blu

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-ray's initial players didn't even have to support

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the best audio formats. It was chaos. So 2006

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rolls on. HD DVD is cheaper. It looks better.

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The cases are red. which is a nice distinction.

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But then in November, Two heavyweights under

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the ring, the PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360

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HD DVD drive. This is the strategic divergence

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that probably decided the war. Sony took a massive,

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massive gamble. They put the Blu -ray drive inside

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every single PlayStation 3. Which made the PS3

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expensive. $599. $599 US dollars. I can still

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hear the meme. It was exorbitantly expensive

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and Sony lost hundreds of dollars on every unit

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sold. But it meant that overnight, millions of

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people accidentally owned a Blu -ray. It was

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a separate little white box that you plugged

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in via USB. It cost $199. And it came with a

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copy of King Kong. That's right, the Peter Jackson

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King Kong, a great demo disc. I remember the

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logic at the time was, we are giving gamers a

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choice. We aren't forcing you to pay for a movie

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player if you just want to play Halo. It was

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a respectful consumer choice, but a fatal strategic

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error. By making it optional, they ensured the

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install base would never match the PS3. If Microsoft

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had bitten the bullet, and put the HD DVD drive

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inside the Xbox 360, even if it raised the price

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by $50 or $100, HD DVD likely would have won.

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But the blue laser diodes were expensive, right?

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It was a big part of the cost. Incredibly expensive.

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Around $100 to $150 per unit initially. Microsoft

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didn't want to blow up the cost of the console.

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They were also already looking ahead to digital

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distribution. They saw discs as a temporary bridge.

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Whereas Sony saw discs as the future of their

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empire. Sony is a media company. They make movies,

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music, and the hardware to play them on. For

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them, owning the physical format was everything.

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So we move into 2007. The war is a stalemate.

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You have studios picking sides. Universal and

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Warner Bros. are strongly in the HD DVD camp

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initially. Universal was exclusively HD DVD for

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a long time. Disney and Fox are strictly Blu

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-ray. And then you have Paramount, who did this

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weird thing where they flipped. Paramount was

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the big shock of 2007. They had been releasing

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on both. And then in August, they announced they

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were going HD DVD exclusive. Why? Money. The

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HD DVD promotion group paid them a reported $150

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million in marketing incentives. So this was

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just studios being bought off left and right.

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It was. And this is where the user experience

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gap started to widen. If you were a film nerd

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in 2007, an early adopter, you probably preferred

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HD DVD for a few key reasons. Reason number one.

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Region free. Huge. Absolutely massive for collectors.

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Blu -ray maintained the old DVD region codes.

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Region A for the Americas and Japan. Region B

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for Europe and Australia. Region C for Asia.

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Right. If you imported a cool horror movie from

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France, which is region B, and tried to play

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it on your American PS3, which is region A, it

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would spit it out with an error message. Useless.

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HD DVD had zero region coding. The world was

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one region. A disc from Japan played in a player

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from Ohio? No problem. I remember. importing

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Pan's Labyrinth on HD DVD from Europe before

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it came out in the U .S., it felt like I was

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cheating the system. It was a feature that built

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immense loyalty among the early adopter crowd,

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the influencers of that era, the people posting

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on the AVS forum. Reason number two, the combo

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disc. I have a love -hate relationship with these.

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The flipper discs, a dual -layer DVD on one side,

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a dual -layer HD DVD on the other. The marketing

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pitch was genius. Buy it now. Play the DVD side

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in your bedroom. Play the HD side in your living

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room. It future -proofed your collection. It

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was smart. It was a bridge for consumers who

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hadn't upgraded yet. But physically, a nightmare.

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No label art, just small text on the inner ring.

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Fingerprints everywhere. And they were prone

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to rot or bonding separation because the glue

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chemistry was tricky. But again, it showed Toshiba

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was trying to bridge the transition for normal

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people. Blu -ray didn't really have an equivalent.

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Not really. They had some PlayStation 3 bundle

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discs, but nothing as elegant as the combo disc

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concept. Then you had the twin -format disc,

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which was a single -sided disc with three layers,

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one for DVD, two for HD DVD. That was even more

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clever, but harder to manufacture. The combo

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disc was the main one people saw. And then there

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was the 3X DVD hack. This is something I feel

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very few people knew about. This was the poor

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man's HD. Because the file structure of HD DVD

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was so flexible and the codecs were so efficient,

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you could actually burn 1080p video onto a standard

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red laser DVD -R you bought at Office Depot.

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Wait, explain that again. High definition on

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a standard DVD? Yes. A dual -layer DVD holds

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about 8 .5 gigabits. If you used the efficient

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AVC codec, H .264, you could fit a 90 -minute

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movie in 1080p on that disc. The official Toshiba

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players recognized it as an HD DVD file structure.

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structure and played it back in full HD. That's

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wild. It's like putting jet fuel in a lawnmower

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and having it actually fly. It was officially

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supported in the spec. It was called HD Rec.

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It was a brilliant engineer solution to expensive

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media. The blank HD DVD -Rs were pricey. Blank

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DVD -Rs were a dime a dozen. Okay, we have to

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pause here and talk about the biggest drama of

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the era. The ASES hack. The 09F9 number. This

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wasn't just about movies. This was an internet

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censorship war. This is one of my favorite stories

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in tech history. So ACS, Advanced Access Content

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System, was the encryption used by both formats.

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The studios were told it was unbreakable. Unbreakable.

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Famous last words. Of course. In late 2006, a

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hacker who went by the name Muzlik64 found a

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vulnerability. Not in the disc itself, but in

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the software player WinDVD running on a PC. He

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managed to scoop the processing key out of the

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computer's memory while the movie was playing.

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And this key... unlocked everything. It was the

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master key. With the 16 -byte number, you could

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decrypt any HD DVD released up to that point.

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It was a skeleton key for the entire format.

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And naturally, he posted it on the internet.

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On the Doom 9 forums, a haven for video enthusiasts

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and software crackers. And naturally, the AACS

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licensing authority, the lawyers, freaked out.

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They started sending cease and desist letters

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to everyone. Google, bloggers, forums. And then

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they made the mistake of going after Digg. For

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the Gen Z listeners, Digg was Reddit before Reddit.

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It was the front page of the internet. User posted

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the key. The dig admins, terrified of being sued,

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deleted the post and banned the user. Bad move.

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Terrible move. The community revolted. They realized

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the admins were censoring the information for

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corporate interests. So suddenly thousands of

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people started posting the key. I remember the

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front page. It was a wall of that number. 09

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F9 11 02 9D 74 E3 5B 41 56 C5 63 56 88 C0. It's

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burned in my brain. They embedded it in haiku.

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They made songs about it. They photoshopped it

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onto t -shirts. There was a famous image of the

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key printed on a flag being waved by a Revolutionary

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War soldier. It was the Streisand Effect nuclear

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explosion. By trying to hide it, they made it

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the most famous number on the internet. Exactly.

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And practically, what did this mean for HD DVD?

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It meant HD DVD was cracked wide open. You could

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rip the movies to your hard drive easily with

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a tool called backup HD DVD. Blu -ray was also

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cracked eventually, but Blu -ray had an extra

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optional layer of security. called BD +, which

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was a tiny virtual machine that ran on the player

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and could dynamically change the encryption code

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on the disc. It was much harder to break. HD

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DVD didn't have that. No. Once the processing

00:19:27.430 --> 00:19:30.509
key was out, the game was over. So the studios

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looked at HD DVD and saw a format that was wide

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open to piracy. Exactly. Fox and Disney were

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terrified of piracy. The fact that HD DVD security

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was obliterated so publicly. Definitely made

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them cling tighter to Blu -ray. It was a PR disaster

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for the format, even if it was a victory for

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internet freedom. So, late 2007, the hackers

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have the key, the prices are dropping, Toshiba

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does a fire sale. The HD A2 player hits $99.

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This was the final push. Toshiba was losing a

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ton of money on every player trying to buy market

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share. They sold a ton of units. I bought one.

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I think a lot of people did. It was the cheapest

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way to get into HD media. At the end of 2007,

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things were looking... okay for them not great

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but okay by some metrics there were arguably

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more dedicated hdd dvd players in homes than

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dedicated blu -ray players if you don't count

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the ps3 and that's the big asterisk isn't it

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the ps3 it's the 800 pound gorilla in the room

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but still it felt like a real fight and then

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january 2008 ces The Consumer Electronics Show

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in Vegas. The atmosphere was tense. Everyone

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knew something was going to give. Warner Bros.

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was the linchpin. They were the only major studio

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still consistently releasing on both formats.

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They accounted for something like 20 % of the

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entire home video market. Whichever way Warner

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went. The war went. Totally. And there were rumors

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that Warner was going to side with HD -DVD. I

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remember that. There was a leaked ad for a promotion

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with Toshiba. Exactly. Toshiba had a massive

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party planned. They had promotional materials

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printed. Their press conference was one of the

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big events on the schedule. And then January

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4th. A Friday? Just before CES officially kicks

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off, the press release drops. Warner Bros. to

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distribute high -definition DVD releases exclusively

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in Blu -ray disc format. Boom. It was a bomb.

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The Toshiba executives reportedly found out about

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it just hours before the public did. They had

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to cancel their entire CES press conference.

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It was humiliating. They were blindsided. Why

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did Warner switch? The press release said consumer

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confusion. That was the official line. That's

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the PR answer. We are doing this for you, the

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people. The real answer. We need to follow the

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money. The briefcase full of cash. It was a very,

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very big briefcase. There have been credible

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reports and industry analysis suggesting that

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the Blu -ray Association, led by Sony -paid Warner

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Bros., somewhere in the neighborhood of $400

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to $500 million. Half a billion dollars. In promotional

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fees and other incentives to switch. They basically

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bought them. To end the war. Essentially. Fox

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also reportedly guides some incentives to stay

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blue. It was a checkbook war. Sony looked at

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their bank account. looked at the potential royalty

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stream from Blu -ray licensing for the next 10

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years, and decided it was worth paying half a

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billion to kill the competition. And once Warner

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tipped... The dominoes fell instantly. Within

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days, Netflix said, we're phasing out HD DVD

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rentals. Best Buy said, we're recommending Blu

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-ray to our customers. And then the biggest one

00:22:28.839 --> 00:22:31.759
of all, Walmart. The king of retail. Walmart

00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:33.599
announced they were going Blu -ray exclusive.

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And you can't survive without Walmart. No. Once

00:22:37.259 --> 00:22:39.809
Shell Space is gone... You are dead. That was

00:22:39.809 --> 00:22:44.029
the final nail. So on February 19, 2008, Toshiba

00:22:44.029 --> 00:22:46.910
officially surrenders. They announce they are

00:22:46.910 --> 00:22:49.329
ceasing development and manufacturing of all

00:22:49.329 --> 00:22:53.829
HD DVD products. The war ends. Total duration,

00:22:54.069 --> 00:22:57.509
less than two years. Toshiba wrote off nearly

00:22:57.509 --> 00:23:00.690
a billion dollars in losses. It was a financial

00:23:00.690 --> 00:23:03.269
catastrophe for their consumer electronics division.

00:23:03.650 --> 00:23:06.789
The HD DVD promotion group was formally dissolved

00:23:06.789 --> 00:23:09.960
on March 28. It was over. And for the consumer,

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I want to go back to the guy who bought that

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$99 player in December 2007. Two months later,

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he owns a doorstop. It was a feeling of betrayal.

00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:19.740
I remember the forums. People were furious. I

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backed you and you quit. Now, to be fair, the

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player still worked. The discs you own still

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played. But no new movies were coming. And firmware

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updates continued for a while, right? They did.

00:23:29.089 --> 00:23:30.809
Toshiba was pretty good about that. But what

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good is a player with no new content? Warner

00:23:32.809 --> 00:23:35.630
Bros. did offer an exchange program, right? Eventually,

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in mid -2009, it was clunky. You had to mail

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in the paper cover art from your HD DVD case,

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literally rip the paper out. So you destroyed

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your old copy. You had to. And you had to send

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a check for $4 .95 plus shipping for each disc.

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And they would mail you the Blu -ray disc. But

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not the Blu -ray case. Nope. Just the disc in

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a paper sleeve. And crucially, they didn't give

00:24:01.640 --> 00:24:03.720
you a Blu -ray player. So you had a stack of

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blue discs and a red player. It was a token gesture

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at best. Let's look at the long tail here. Because

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the format didn't just vanish from the earth

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the next day. There were some weird zombie releases.

00:24:13.740 --> 00:24:16.019
The release schedule takes time to stop. The

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last major U .S. releases came out in May 2008.

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Things like Into the Wild, P .S. I Love You,

00:24:21.319 --> 00:24:23.559
and Twister. Twister was a late release. Wow.

00:24:23.779 --> 00:24:27.500
Yep. But my favorite story is Freedom 6, the

00:24:27.500 --> 00:24:30.240
anime. Yes. Bandai Visual had released the first

00:24:30.240 --> 00:24:33.839
five volumes of this OVA series on HD DVD. The

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sixth volume was scheduled for June 2008, months

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after the format died. They released it anyway.

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Just to finish the set for the fans. That's kind

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of classy. Out of honor. They knew they wouldn't

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make money. The press release literally acknowledged

00:24:45.460 --> 00:24:47.799
the format's demise, but they couldn't leave

00:24:47.799 --> 00:24:50.599
the fans with five -sixths of the show. But here

00:24:50.599 --> 00:24:54.099
is the kicker. There was a volume seven. Oh,

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no. And volume seven was never released on HD

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DVD. So even with that noble gesture, the set

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remains forever incomplete on the shelf. It's

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like a perfect little tragedy. That is heartbreaking.

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But there were even later releases than that,

00:25:06.420 --> 00:25:08.680
right, from some indie companies. Oh, yeah. A

00:25:08.680 --> 00:25:11.000
company called Amphim Films released Deadlands

00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:15.720
2. Trapped and Deadlands? The rising on HD -DVDR

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as late as 2010. They were limited runs of like

00:25:18.740 --> 00:25:21.779
500 copies. True collector's items now. But there

00:25:21.779 --> 00:25:24.940
is a place where HD -DVD lived on in disguise.

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We have to talk about China. Ah, CBHD. The China

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Blue High Definition Disc. This sounds like a

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bootleg, but it was an official government -backed

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standard. It was. China looked at the format

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war. They saw Blu -ray won. But Blu -ray licensing

00:25:37.900 --> 00:25:40.900
fees were expensive. Sony wanted a cut of every

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disc and player made. Chinese manufacturers didn't

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want to pay that. So they looked at the wreckage

00:25:45.480 --> 00:25:49.339
of HD DVD. And said, we'll take that. They licensed

00:25:49.339 --> 00:25:52.660
the HD DVD physical specs from the DVD forum

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because, remember, those factories were cheap

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to convert. That original advantage still held.

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They tweaked the modulation code, added their

00:26:00.380 --> 00:26:03.319
own Chinese -owned audio and video codecs called

00:26:03.319 --> 00:26:06.880
AVS to avoid paying royalties to Dolby and others,

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and launched CBHD in 2008. Just as it was dying

00:26:11.339 --> 00:26:14.019
here, it was being reborn there. And it was successful.

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For a few years, CBHD outsold Blu -ray in China.

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Warner Bros., the same studio that killed HD

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DVD in the U .S., actually released Harry Potter

00:26:24.049 --> 00:26:27.059
and Blood Diamond on CBHD in China. Because money

00:26:27.059 --> 00:26:29.420
is money. Exactly. It proved that the technology

00:26:29.420 --> 00:26:31.559
wasn't flawed. It was perfectly capable. It just

00:26:31.559 --> 00:26:33.279
needed a different business model without the

00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.400
crushing royalty fees. We also saw some hardware

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mutations right at the end. The universal players.

00:26:37.900 --> 00:26:40.539
LG and Samsung both tried this. The LG BH100

00:26:40.539 --> 00:26:43.359
Super Multi Blue. It played both formats. I remember

00:26:43.359 --> 00:26:45.980
that thing. It was a beast. And it was expensive.

00:26:46.019 --> 00:26:49.269
It was $1 ,200. And it was buggy. It couldn't

00:26:49.269 --> 00:26:52.349
even decode Dolby True HD. If that player had

00:26:52.349 --> 00:26:56.029
launched in 2006 for $300, do you think the war

00:26:56.029 --> 00:26:57.890
would have even happened? I think we would have

00:26:57.890 --> 00:27:01.670
ended up in a DVD audio versus SACD situation

00:27:01.670 --> 00:27:06.170
or Dolby Vision versus HDR10, where both formats

00:27:06.170 --> 00:27:08.609
coexist because the hardware hides the difference

00:27:08.609 --> 00:27:11.289
from the consumer. Yeah. If universal players

00:27:11.289 --> 00:27:13.990
had been cheap and available early, consumers

00:27:13.990 --> 00:27:16.069
wouldn't have cared which color the case was.

00:27:16.269 --> 00:27:19.390
They'd just buy the movie. But the chips to read

00:27:19.390 --> 00:27:21.650
both formats from companies like Broadcom and

00:27:21.650 --> 00:27:24.069
NEC came too late. And there were computer drives,

00:27:24.190 --> 00:27:26.849
too. Yeah. Laptops with HD DVD drives. Yeah,

00:27:27.029 --> 00:27:29.789
Peshiba had their Quasimodo line. HP had some

00:27:29.789 --> 00:27:31.849
pavilions. They were pretty rare, but they existed.

00:27:32.369 --> 00:27:34.650
Which brings us to another part of the legacy.

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Which is? The digital copy. Every HD DVD seemed

00:27:38.549 --> 00:27:40.529
to come with a way to move the movie to your

00:27:40.529 --> 00:27:43.089
PC. That was the managed copy feature Microsoft

00:27:43.089 --> 00:27:45.230
pushed. They saw the future. They knew people

00:27:45.230 --> 00:27:46.910
wanted to watch movies on laptops and portable

00:27:46.910 --> 00:27:49.369
devices. It was built into the HDI spec. You

00:27:49.369 --> 00:27:51.309
could put the disc in your computer, authenticate

00:27:51.309 --> 00:27:53.710
it, and get a standard Windows media file you

00:27:53.710 --> 00:27:56.210
could put on your Zoom. Ah, the Zoom. Another

00:27:56.210 --> 00:27:59.230
fallen soldier. A topic for another day. But

00:27:59.230 --> 00:28:01.470
Blu -ray eventually caught up with their digital

00:28:01.470 --> 00:28:04.930
copy disks. But HD DVD was natively designed

00:28:04.930 --> 00:28:07.029
to integrate with your home network and your

00:28:07.029 --> 00:28:09.710
PC. It was more forward thinking. Which brings

00:28:09.710 --> 00:28:11.910
us to the ultimate irony of this entire story.

00:28:12.049 --> 00:28:15.269
The irony of timing. We spent 2006, 2007, and

00:28:15.269 --> 00:28:18.609
2008 obsessing over bitrates, disk layers, and

00:28:18.609 --> 00:28:21.470
red versus blue cases. billions of dollars were

00:28:21.470 --> 00:28:24.269
spent meanwhile in 2007 netflix launched its

00:28:24.269 --> 00:28:26.769
watch now service to streaming the quality was

00:28:26.769 --> 00:28:30.170
terrible at first standard def postage stamp

00:28:30.170 --> 00:28:33.630
sized video But the pipe was opening. And the

00:28:33.630 --> 00:28:36.410
iPhone launched in 2007. The whole paradigm was

00:28:36.410 --> 00:28:38.630
shifting under their feet. Exactly. We were fighting

00:28:38.630 --> 00:28:40.809
a vicious trench war for control of physical

00:28:40.809 --> 00:28:42.970
media right at the moment that physical media

00:28:42.970 --> 00:28:45.430
was beginning its slow march toward obsolescence.

00:28:45.630 --> 00:28:47.890
Warner Bros. switched to Blu -ray to unblock

00:28:47.890 --> 00:28:49.809
the market and get people buying discs again.

00:28:49.910 --> 00:28:52.089
And they did, for a while. Blu -ray had a good

00:28:52.089 --> 00:28:54.630
run. But it never reached the sales heights of

00:28:54.630 --> 00:28:58.690
DVD. Never. DVD was the peak. It was a cultural

00:28:58.690 --> 00:29:01.589
phenomenon. Blu -ray was a profitable plateau

00:29:01.589 --> 00:29:05.390
for enthusiasts. But today, physical media is

00:29:05.390 --> 00:29:08.170
a niche market for collectors, people like us

00:29:08.170 --> 00:29:11.529
who want the absolute best bitrate and uncompressed

00:29:11.529 --> 00:29:14.109
audio. The average person hasn't bought a disc

00:29:14.109 --> 00:29:16.609
in a decade. So in a way, Microsoft was right.

00:29:17.000 --> 00:29:19.160
They were. They treated the optical drive as

00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:21.319
an optional accessory because they knew the future

00:29:21.319 --> 00:29:24.240
was a downloaded file on a hard drive. They lost

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.759
the battle of 2008, but they won the war of the

00:29:26.759 --> 00:29:29.259
2010s with Xbox Live and digital distribution.

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So let's wrap this up. If you're listening to

00:29:31.849 --> 00:29:34.829
this and you have an HDA -1 sitting in your attic

00:29:34.829 --> 00:29:36.930
or maybe you find a copy of the thing in a red

00:29:36.930 --> 00:29:39.130
case at a garage sale. Pick it up. It's a piece

00:29:39.130 --> 00:29:41.910
of history. It represents a moment where a perfectly

00:29:41.910 --> 00:29:44.630
viable, cheaper, more consumer -friendly technology

00:29:44.630 --> 00:29:47.470
was crushed by a massive alliance of industry

00:29:47.470 --> 00:29:50.009
titans and a half -billion -dollar check. And

00:29:50.009 --> 00:29:52.569
the red cases just look cool on the shelf. They

00:29:52.569 --> 00:29:54.529
really do. They pop. It's a beautiful design

00:29:54.529 --> 00:29:56.519
object. So here's the final thought to leave

00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:58.859
you with. We talked about the Xbox 360 add -on

00:29:58.859 --> 00:30:02.299
drive. What if Microsoft had gone all in? What

00:30:02.299 --> 00:30:05.440
if they had put an HD DVD drive inside every

00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:09.099
single Xbox 360 from day one? Would the extra

00:30:09.099 --> 00:30:11.240
30 million players in the market have been enough

00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:13.740
to save the format? Would we all be watching

00:30:13.740 --> 00:30:16.940
movies out of red cases today with region -free

00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:19.900
disks and menus built on web tech? It's the great

00:30:19.900 --> 00:30:22.740
what if, but perhaps the most provocative thought

00:30:22.740 --> 00:30:25.950
is this. The whole war, this billion -dollar

00:30:25.950 --> 00:30:28.849
fight over plastic discs, felt incredibly important

00:30:28.849 --> 00:30:31.349
at the time. But in hindsight, it was a battle

00:30:31.349 --> 00:30:33.890
for a shrinking kingdom. Streaming was just around

00:30:33.890 --> 00:30:35.750
the corner, preparing to make them all obsolete

00:30:35.750 --> 00:30:37.789
anyway. Thanks for joining us on this deep dive

00:30:37.789 --> 00:30:39.509
into the format war. We'll catch you on the next

00:30:39.509 --> 00:30:39.630
one.
