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Okay, I want you to close your eyes for a second.

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Just picture this. It's a stage. It's October

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2017. We're in Pattaya, Thailand. The air is,

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you know, thick. It's humid. I can already feel

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it. Yeah, right. There are strobe lights just

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cutting through the dark. There's this heavy

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bass music that's just thumping in your chest.

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And there's a man in the center of the spotlight

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who is, um... Well, he's practically vibrating

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with energy. Oh, I know exactly who you're talking

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about. The man, the myth, the living meme. He

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grabs the microphone. He's sweating right through

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his suit. And he doesn't just speak to the crowd.

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He unleashes this guttural, cracking, high -pitched

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scream that I think is permanently burned into

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the auditory cortex of anyone who used the internet

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in 2017. Wassup, wassup, wassup, wassup, bitkiness,

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cct. There it is. It is iconic. I mean, it is.

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arguably the most famous or maybe infamous soundbite

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in the entire history of the cryptocurrency industry.

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It's like the I have a dream speech of financial

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disasters. That's the perfect way to put it.

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Because if you spend any time online, you've

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seen the remixes, you've seen the parodies. It's

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this moment of just pure, hilarious cringe. It

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really is. It's a bald guy from New York City

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just losing his absolute mind with excitement.

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But, and this is the pivot, this is the really

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important part for our Deep Dives today. When

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I look at that video now, I don't laugh. No.

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And frankly, you shouldn't. It's not funny anymore.

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Not at all. Because that scream wasn't just some

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funny guy on a stage in Thailand. That scream

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was the sound of a financial catastrophe happening

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in real time. It was the sound of thousands and

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thousands of people about to lose their life

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savings. That is the perfect way to frame it.

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It is so easy to get distracted by the spectacle,

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by the sheer absurdity of the presentation. But

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if you strip away the Internet humor, if you

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get rid of the memes, what you are looking at

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is one of the most devastating financial frauds

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of the last decade. And we are talking about

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staggering numbers here. This wasn't a small

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-time operation. Oh, not at all. We are. The

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Securities and Exchange Commission, the SEC,

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they eventually put a number on it. They estimated

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the size of this fraud at around $2 .4 billion.

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A billion. With a B. With a B. It's a number

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that's almost hard to comprehend. It is honestly

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hard to reconcile those two things. the funny

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screaming man from the meme, and a multi -billion

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dollar federal crime. But that is exactly our

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mission for this deep dive. We are going to go

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behind the meme. We need to really understand

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how an open source cryptocurrency, something

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that looked... you know, legitimate on paper

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morphed into a history making Ponzi scheme. And

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to do that, we have to look under the hood. We

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can't just say it was a scam and move on. We

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need to take apart the specific mechanics. We

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need to look at this so -called lending platform

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they built and the the very mysterious trading

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bot that was supposed to be the engine of infinite

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wealth. And we're going to trace that timeline

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from BitConnect being a top 20 cryptocurrency.

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which is just wild to even think about now, all

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the way to a single day in January 2018 where

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it lost 92 % of its value. It's just gone, evaporated.

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Yeah. Our source material for this whole discussion

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is the comprehensive Wikipedia record. It covers

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the history, the collapse, the legal proceedings,

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and, of course, the cultural impact. It paints

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a very, very grim picture, honestly. It really

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does. It serves as a master class in critical

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thinking. Or maybe... a masterclass in how easily

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critical thinking can be suspended when greed

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takes the wheel. So let's start at the very beginning,

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before the scream, before the crash. If I was

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a crypto investor back in 2016 and I'm looking

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for the next big thing, what was BitConnect?

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Because it wasn't just a website with a donate

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button, was it? It had a ticker symbol. It was

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on the charts. Right. And that's a crucial point.

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BitConnect, ticker symbol BCC. It launched around

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2016. And this is vital to understanding how

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so many people fell for this. BitConnect did

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a very, very good job of establishing what I

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call the veneer of legitimacy. Meaning it looked

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like the real deal from the outside. Exactly.

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It was presented as an open source cryptocurrency.

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Now, in the tech world, open source is usually

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a badge of honor. It implies transparency. It

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implies here's our code. You can check it yourself.

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We have nothing to hide. So they actually released

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the code for the coin itself. You could go on

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like a GitHub and see it. Yes. The source material

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notes that it used a hybrid timestamping scheme.

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It was a mix of proof of stake and proof of work.

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These are legitimate, established consensus mechanisms.

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OK, let's pause there for a second. I don't want

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to get totally bogged down in the deep technical

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weeds. But for anyone listening who isn't, you

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know, mining Bitcoin in their basement, what

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does that hybrid model actually mean? And why

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does that specific choice make it look so legitimate?

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Sure. So proof of work is the model that Bitcoin

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uses. You have computers, we call them miners,

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burning a ton of electricity to solve these incredibly

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complex math problems. It's what secures the

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network and creates new coins. It's hard work,

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hence the name. Right. That's the one everyone's

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heard of. Then you have proof of stake. That's

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different. Instead of computational power, you

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validate transactions based on how many... Coins

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you already hold and are willing to stake as

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collateral, you have a stake in the network.

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So you earn interest for helping secure it. It's

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much more energy efficient. And BitConnect said

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they were using both of these. They used a hybrid

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of both. And here's the kicker. Technologically,

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the coin itself, the BCC token, it actually functioned.

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It had a working blockchain. You could download

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a wallet. You could send BCC to me. I could receive

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it. It would confirm on the network. So the car

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had an engine. It wasn't just a cardboard cut

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out of a car. It could actually drive down the

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road. The car could drive. And that is precisely

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why it was so dangerous. Right. The problem wasn't

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the car. The problem was the dealership and the

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absolutely insane financing plan they were selling

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along with the car. The coin wasn't the product.

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The coin was just the poker chip for the casino

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they built on top of it. Right. Because nobody

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was just buying Big Connect coin to hold it in

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a wallet and look at it. They were buying it

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for the value proposition. Correct. The core

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pitch of BitConnect, the thing that drove the

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mania, was the lending platform. This was the

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hook. This was the whole game. OK, so walk me

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through the user experience here. It's the late

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2017. I've got some Bitcoin, real actual Bitcoin

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that I bought on a legitimate exchange. Right.

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I hear about BitConnect. What do I do? OK, so

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step one, you send your precious Bitcoin. to

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the BitConnect exchange, a one -way trip. Step

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two, you use that Bitcoin to buy their proprietary

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BitConnect coin, BCC. Now you are holding their

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chips. Okay, so I've swapped my gold for their

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casino tokens. I'm in their ecosystem now. Exactly.

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Now, step three, and this is the crucial part.

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You lend those BCC tokens back to the platform.

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You lock them up. You freeze them for a set period.

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Maybe it's 120 days. Maybe it's 299 days. It

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depended on how much capital you put in. You

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literally cannot touch that principal investment.

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And in exchange for letting them hold my money

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hostage. What do I get? In exchange, they promised

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you interest payments. But this wasn't just put

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it in a savings account for 0 .5 % a year interest.

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This is where the physics of finance just completely

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break down. What kind of numbers are we talking

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about here? Because people were losing their

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minds over this. The interest was calculated

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daily. Daily. Not annually. Daily. Daily. And

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the rates they were citing? The sources mention

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these impossibly high payouts. We are talking

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about an average of around 1 % daily interest.

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Okay. I want to stop here. I really want to dig

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into the math of 1 % daily interest because I

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think our brains, you know, we're wired for linear

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progression. We hear 1 % and we think, oh, that's

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not much. That's a penny on the dollar. We are

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terrible at intuitively understanding exponential

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math. It's a genuine blind spot for the human

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brain. We just can't process it. I ran a quick

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calculation on this before we started just to

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see what that actually looks like in practice.

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Let's say I put $1 ,000 into this system. And

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let's be conservative. Let's say I just take

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the interest out every day and put it in my pocket.

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That's $10 a day. Right. 365 days a year. That's

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$3 ,650 in a year. That's a 365 % annual return,

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which is already insane. That's already beating

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the greatest investors in human history by a

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factor of 10 or 20. But that's not what people

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did. That wasn't the real allure. They compounded

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it. Right. They hit the little reinvest button

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on the dashboard. Yeah. So if you compound 1%.

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Daily. A thousand dollars becomes what at the

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end of year one. It creates a curve that goes

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vertical. If you reinvest every single day, that

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initial one thousand dollars becomes roughly

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thirty seven thousand seven hundred dollars at

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the end of one year. From one thousand to over

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thirty seven thousand. in 12 months. And people

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were seeing this on their dashboards. They were

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watching it happen. What about two years? If

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you just let it ride for two years? I'm glad

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you asked. It's roughly $1 .4 million from a

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$1 ,000 investment. Okay. That should be the

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red flag right there, shouldn't it? I mean, that's

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the only red flag you need. If you could turn

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$1 ,000 into over a million in two years with

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zero effort and zero risk, why would anyone work?

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Why would banks even exist? That is the ultimate

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question. It defies the laws of thermodynamics

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in economics. Money cannot be created out of

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thin air at that rate. If you have a machine

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that prints money like that, you don't share

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it. You don't ask strangers on the Internet for

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their hundred dollar investments. You just run

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the machine yourself and become the richest person

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on Earth in about three years. But they had an

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answer for that, didn't they? They didn't just

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say, trust us, it's magic. They had a story,

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a secret sauce. They did. And this is where we

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get to the infamous trading bot. The magical

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money printing trading bot. The sources describe

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this as the most controversial and also the most

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essential piece of the whole fiction. The claim

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was that they had developed this proprietary

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volatility software. Volatility software. Yeah.

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Sounds very technical. Very Wall Street. It does.

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It sounds sophisticated. The pitch was this.

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Bitcoin is volatile. It goes up and down violently.

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Our bot trades that volatility. It buys low and

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sells high thousands of times a day, faster than

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a human ever could. And because the crypto market

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is so crazy, there is always profit to be made,

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regardless of whether the market is going up

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or down. So it's the classic black box defense.

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Don't worry your pretty little head about how

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it works. It's a super secret algorithm. It's

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AI. It's too complicated for you to understand.

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Just look at the dashboard. Exactly. It's a very...

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common trope in financial fraud. You look at

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Bernie Madoff. He had a split strike conversion

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strategy that nobody was ever allowed to see.

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In BitConnect's case, the trading bot was the

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black box. You couldn't see the trades. You couldn't

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audit the code. You just saw a number on a screen

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saying, congratulations, you made $400 today.

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And that number on the screen is a powerful drug.

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It is a hallucinogen. When you log in every single

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morning and you see your balance growing like

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that, you stop asking questions. You stop wondering

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how it works and you just get excited that it

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is working. But I have to ask the obvious question,

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was there a bot? No. There was no bot. There

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was no volatility software. There was nothing.

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So where was the money coming from? If I put

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in $1 ,000 and six months later I cash out $5

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,000, who paid me? The person who joined the

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day after you, it was a textbook Ponzi scheme.

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The profits being paid out to the early investors

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were simply the principal deposits of the new

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investors. I pay Paul with the money I just took

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from Peter. Precisely. And this is why the structure

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had to include that aggressive multi -level marketing

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or MLM component. It wasn't just a feature. It

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was a requirement for survival. Right. The referral

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bonuses. Yeah. That makes so much sense now.

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A Ponzi scheme is like a shark. If it stops swimming,

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it dies. If new money stops flowing in, the whole

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thing collapses instantly because there is no

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underlying value generation. So they had to incentivize

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the users to become the sales force. Which explains

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the whole YouTube phenomenon around Big Connect.

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It wasn't just people sharing a cool investment

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tip. It was people actively trying to get their

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commission. You had grandmothers, college students,

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random people recording videos in their cars,

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all shouting, join my team, use my link. They

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were weaponized promoters. The source mentions

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a tiered structure. If you bring in someone,

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you get a percentage of their deposit. If they

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bring in someone, you get a smaller percentage

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of that and so on. It turns the victims into

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the perpetrators in a way. It does. It's a very

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sinister mechanism. You aren't just losing your

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own money. You are actively encouraged to drag

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your friends and your family down with you. It

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spreads like a virus. Now, I want to touch on

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one other mechanism that I found really interesting

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in the research, the liquidity trap. Because

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they didn't pay you in Bitcoin and they didn't

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pay you in dollars. This is subtle, but it's

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the absolute key to how they kept the illusion

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going for as long as they did. When your dashboard

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said you earned interest, it showed that value

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in U .S. dollars. You earned $50. but you couldn't

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withdraw dollars. So I have a number on a screen

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that says $50. How do I turn that into something

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I can buy groceries with? Well, first, you have

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to convert that $50 balance into... BCC the BitConnect

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coin at whatever the current market rate was.

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Then you have to take that BCC and sell it on

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their own internal exchange for Bitcoin. And

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then you could finally move the Bitcoin to an

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external exchange and cash out to your bank.

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So to get your profits out, you have to first

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buy their coin. Yes. The liquidity of the BCC

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cryptocurrency was effectively funding users'

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ability to exchange their earnings. As long as

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new people were buying BCC to get into the lending

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program to start their loans, the price of BCC

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kept going up. Wow. It's a self -fulfilling prophecy.

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The scam itself creates the demand for the token,

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which artificially inflates the price of the

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token, which in turn makes the scam look even

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more successful and legitimate. It's a perfect

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circle of fraud. Until the music stops. And the

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music started to get a little dissonant towards

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the end of 2017. Which brings us to the next

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section of our outline. The walls close in. Because

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you can't run a multi -billion dollar fraud this

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loudly forever without someone somewhere noticing.

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No, you cannot, especially not when you're holding

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massive conferences in Thailand and screaming

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about it on YouTube. The first major blow came

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from the United Kingdom. On November 7th, 2017,

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the UK Registrar of Companies issued a strike

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off notice. A strike off notice. That sounds

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pretty serious. What does that mean in practice?

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It's basically the government saying. We don't

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think you're a real company. You have two months

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to prove your legitimacy, to show us your books,

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or we are forcibly dissolving you and seizing

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any assets we can find in our jurisdiction. Two

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months? That is a ticking clock. That must have

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set off alarm bells everywhere. It should have.

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But here is the fascinating and terrifying thing

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about crowd psychology. The UK warning comes

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out in November. But the price of BitConnect

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didn't crash. In fact, it kept going up. Wait,

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really? The government of a major Western country

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says this looks fake and people just kept buying.

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Not only did they keep buying, the price of the

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BCC coin hit its all -time high in December of

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2017, a full month after the UK warning. It reached

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nearly $463 per coin. That is just wild. It's

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like standing on the deck of the Titanic, seeing

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the iceberg dead ahead, and deciding to buy an

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upgrade to a better cabin. Greed is a powerful

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blinder. And you have to remember the context.

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The crypto market as a whole was in an absolute

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frenzy in late 2017. Bitcoin was rocketing towards

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$20 ,000 for the first time. People felt invincible.

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They dismissed the UK warning as FUD fear, uncertainty

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and doubt. Right. The classic crypto excuse.

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They said the government just doesn't understand

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the tech. They're old. They're slow. They don't

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understand the magic of the bot. Exactly. But

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then the United States got involved. And when

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U .S. regulators decide to step in, things...

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tend to move a lot faster. And specifically,

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the great state of Texas got involved. January

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3rd, 2018. This is the critical date. This is

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the beginning of the end. The Texas State Securities

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Board issued an emergency cease and desist order.

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And Texas doesn't really mince words, do they?

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They do not. They didn't just say this looks

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suspicious. They explicitly called it a Ponzi

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scheme. They cited failings in transparency regarding

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how user earnings were generated. They said the

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statements being made by promoters were materially

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misleading. And most importantly, they pointed

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out that BitConnect was not registered to sell

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securities. Which is a huge deal. If you're selling

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an investment that pays people interest, that's

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a security. You have to register with the SEC

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or state boards. You can't just operate in the

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shadows like that. Exactly. And almost simultaneously,

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the North Carolina Secretary of State Securities

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Division issued their own warning for the same

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reason. So now you have pressure mounting from

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two major U .S. jurisdictions on top of the ticking

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clock from the U .K. It's early January 2018.

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U .K. deadline is looming. Texas is saying stop

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immediately. North Carolina is saying stop immediately.

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The pressure inside that organization must have.

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been immense. They knew there was no trading

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bot to show the regulators. The game was up.

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And that leads us directly to the collapse. And

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it happened very, very quickly. So walk us through

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those few days in mid -January, because this

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wasn't a slow decline. This was a cliff dive.

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January 16th and 17th, 2018, the BitConnect administrators

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posted an announcement on their website. They

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were closing the earning platform and the cryptocurrency

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exchange operation. Effective immediately. Just

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like that, flipping a switch and pulling the

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plug. Pulling the plug. They cited the bad press

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and the regulatory pressure from Texas and North

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Carolina as the reasons. They effectively tried

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to frame it as the mean old government is making

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us close our wonderful lending platform. Sorry,

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guys. But wait a minute. If they close the platform,

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what happens to all the money people had loaned

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them? All that Bitcoin that people had locked

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up for 299 days, that's billions of dollars.

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Ah, yes. This brings us to the refund. And I

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want you to hear the huge air quotes around that

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word. BitConnect announced they would refund

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all outstanding loans. OK, that sounds fair.

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I mean, if I gave them $10 ,000 worth of Bitcoin

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and they give me $10 ,000 back, then no harm,

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no foul, right? It sounds fair until you look

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at how they did it. This is the final brutal

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exit scam mechanism. And it is diabolically clever.

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They didn't give people back the Bitcoin they

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had originally invested. They calculated the

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dollar value of your loan at that moment. So

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let's say you had a $10 ,000 active loan on the

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platform. Okay. My dashboard says I have a balance

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of $10 ,000. They paid you back that $10 ,000

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in their own coin, BCC. Okay. I'm still following,

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but I'm getting a bad feeling about this. You

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should. Here is the catch. They determine the

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exchange rate. They valued the BCC they were

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giving you at roughly $363 .62 per coin, which

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was the market average over the last few days

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before they announced the closure. So they give

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me roughly 27 BCC coins and they say, here you

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go. These are worth $10 ,000. Good luck to you.

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Exactly. But now imagine the situation. Every

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single user on the platform has just received

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their entire refund in DCC at the exact same

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moment. The platform is closing. The news is

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out everywhere that it's a scam. What does every

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single person on earth try to do with those coins?

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They sell. Instantly. Everyone hit sell at the

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same time. It's a bank run on a global scale.

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It's a panic sale of epic proportions. Millions

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of coins hit the open market instantly. And who

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is on the other side of that trade? Who is buying?

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Nobody. Absolutely nobody. Nobody. The demand

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drops to zero. The supply shoots to infinity.

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The price crashed 92 percent almost immediately.

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Oh, my God. So I'm saying they're holding these

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27 coins that they told me were worth $10 ,000.

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But five minutes later. they are trading on other

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exchanges for... What? $30, then $20, then eventually

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less than $1. So my $10 ,000 refund is actually

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worth maybe $100 by the time I can even sell

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it. If you're lucky. Correct. And the BitConnect

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founders walk away clean technically. They can

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throw their hands up and say, hey, we refunded

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everyone. We gave you the coins. It's not our

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fault the market crashed afterwards. It's the

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most malicious form of compliance I've ever heard

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of. They wiped out the massive liability of the

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system while leaving the investors holding an

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empty bag. It effectively transfer all the remaining

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wealth from the users to the creators in one

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final. devastating stroke. The internal exchange

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liquidity collapsed completely. It was over.

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And that is the moment the scream from the meme

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turned into a genuine cry for help from thousands

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of people. Indeed. It was absolute devastation.

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The source material is grim. There were suicide

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hotline numbers pinned to the top of the BitConnect

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subreddits. People lost homes. They lost their

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college funds. They lost their entire retirement

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savings. So who is pulling the strings? You don't

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build a $2 .4 billion fraud by accident. Who

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are the architects here? The structure was intentionally

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opaque and anonymous. That's the nature of these

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crypto primes. But legal investigations over

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the last few years have managed to bring some

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names to light. The man identified as the founder,

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the original author of the code, is an Indian

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national named Satish Kumbani. Satish Kumbani.

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For a long time, he was a ghost. a name in a

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white paper. But in February 2022, the U .S.

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Department of Justice finally unsealed an indictment

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against him for money laundering, wire fraud

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and operating an unlicensed money transmitting

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business. So has he been arrested? Is he in custody?

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His whereabouts have been complicated, let's

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say. The pursuit of international crypto criminals

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is always difficult. But legally speaking, he

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is the head of the snake. But he couldn't have

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done it alone. We talked about that huge MLM

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structure. You need promoters. You need faces

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for the operation. Yes. And the biggest promoter

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in the United States, the guy at the very top

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of the pyramid here, was a man named Glen Orcaro.

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Glen Orcaro. He served as the lead national promoter

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from August 2017 to January 2018, right during

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the peak of the mania. He created a company with

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a very subtle name, Future Money LTD. Future

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Money. Little on the nose, isn't it? Just a bit.

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It worked, though. He used this entity to lure

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investors into the BitConnect lending program.

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He was the one organizing the big conferences,

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making the slick promotional videos. But unlike

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Kumbani, Arcaro faced the music relatively quickly.

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On September 1st, 2021, he pleaded guilty to

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a conspiracy to commit wire fraud. And what were

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the penalties for him? They were significant.

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He was ordered to pay $17 million in restitution

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to about 800 identified victims. Yeah. And he

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agreed to forfeit $24 million in assets. $24

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million. That's a lot of money to forfeit. It

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just shows you how much he personally was skimming

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off the top. If one promoter has $24 million

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just lying around. It gives you a sense of the

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scale of the cash flow, yes. And then there's

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the international connection. Dvij Darji, who

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was the India region leader. He was arrested

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in Delhi in August of 2018. And the sources mentioned

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something really interesting about him, a potential

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connection to something called black money in

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India. Yes. This connects to a broader economic

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event in India at the time demonetization. The

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Indian government had suddenly banned certain

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high value currency notes to crack down on the

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shadow economy and elicit cash hordes. Right.

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I remember that. It caused chaos. People were

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scrambling to figure out what to do with their

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stacks of untaxed cash. Exactly. And there is

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a strong suspicion among Indian authorities that

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Darjeet and BitConnect were involved in laundering

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this black money through the crypto platform.

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The pitch would have been give us your soon to

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be worthless cash. We'll give you digital BitConnect

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coins. It's a perfect laundromat. So it wasn't

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just a simple Ponzi scheme. It was potentially

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a massive money laundering operation for criminal

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cash as well. That is the allegation. And remarkably,

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after being arrested for BitConnect, Darjeet

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was later arrested in connection with another

00:24:04.799 --> 00:24:08.380
very similar scam called RegalCoin. You're kidding

00:24:08.380 --> 00:24:10.680
me. He got out and just did it again. It appears

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so. It speaks to the serial nature of these frauds.

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Once you have the playbook, you just change the

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logo, change the name of the coin, and run the

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same scam all over again on a new group of victims.

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That's depressing. Now, before we get to the

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final legal cleanup, we have to talk about the

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event. The meme. We touched on it in the intro,

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but we need to go deeper because I think that

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one event explains the psychology of the scam

00:24:33.769 --> 00:24:37.710
better than any financial chart ever could. The

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first and as it turns out, the only BitConnect

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annual ceremony. Pattaya, Thailand, October 28th,

00:24:45.970 --> 00:24:49.140
2017. Right at the peak of the hype. Just a few

00:24:49.140 --> 00:24:51.319
short months before the entire thing imploded.

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They rent out this massive flashy venue. It's

00:24:54.779 --> 00:24:57.579
pure spectacle. There are lasers, dancers, awards

00:24:57.579 --> 00:24:59.759
ceremonies where they give out these giant oversized

00:24:59.759 --> 00:25:02.039
checks to the top promoters. It's designed to

00:25:02.039 --> 00:25:04.140
look like a celebration of success. And then

00:25:04.140 --> 00:25:06.779
Carlos Matos takes the stage. Carlos Matos from

00:25:06.779 --> 00:25:08.950
New York City. He's an investor. It's important

00:25:08.950 --> 00:25:10.789
to note he's not a founder. He's not one of the

00:25:10.789 --> 00:25:13.069
architects of the scam. He's a user and he is.

00:25:13.190 --> 00:25:15.730
Well, exuberant is the word you used. That is

00:25:15.730 --> 00:25:18.150
a very polite word for what we witnessed. He

00:25:18.150 --> 00:25:21.150
gives this testimonial that is just pure, unadulterated,

00:25:21.170 --> 00:25:24.529
raw energy. I am so excited. He's talking about

00:25:24.529 --> 00:25:26.910
how his wife didn't believe in him, how she kept

00:25:26.910 --> 00:25:29.849
telling him it was a scam. No, no, no, he says.

00:25:30.440 --> 00:25:33.059
And now he's making so much money. And then comes

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the scream, BitConnect's CCT. He screams it in

00:25:37.619 --> 00:25:40.400
different registers. He growls it. He shrieks

00:25:40.400 --> 00:25:43.539
it. It's this primal release of financial validation.

00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:46.400
He feels like he's proven everyone wrong. I've

00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:48.940
watched that video so many times. And looking

00:25:48.940 --> 00:25:52.680
back now, knowing everything we know, it's genuinely

00:25:52.680 --> 00:25:55.150
eerie. It doesn't look like a financial conference.

00:25:55.230 --> 00:25:57.349
It feels like a religious revival meeting. It

00:25:57.349 --> 00:25:59.630
feels like a cult. It absolutely does. And that

00:25:59.630 --> 00:26:01.549
is a key insight. The community aspect of these

00:26:01.549 --> 00:26:03.769
schemes is incredibly powerful. When you are

00:26:03.769 --> 00:26:06.430
in that room in Thailand, surrounded by thousands

00:26:06.430 --> 00:26:08.329
of other people who are all getting rich, all

00:26:08.329 --> 00:26:10.940
screaming the name of the company. Doubt just

00:26:10.940 --> 00:26:13.099
evaporates. It suppresses your critical thinking.

00:26:13.460 --> 00:26:15.920
Your brain says, if all these people are happy

00:26:15.920 --> 00:26:18.240
and successful, surely I'm the one who's wrong

00:26:18.240 --> 00:26:20.980
to be suspicious. Exactly. It's social proof,

00:26:21.099 --> 00:26:23.880
weaponized. The meme itself, you mentioned, it

00:26:23.880 --> 00:26:26.180
was profiled by John Oliver, by Keegan -Michael

00:26:26.180 --> 00:26:30.509
Key. It became a global joke. As an expert looking

00:26:30.509 --> 00:26:33.509
at market psychology, that video serves as a

00:26:33.509 --> 00:26:36.549
historical document of irrational exuberance.

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It is what a financial bubble looks like in human

00:26:39.230 --> 00:26:42.230
form. It's the visual representation of the absolute

00:26:42.230 --> 00:26:45.049
peak right before the fall. Yes. When you see

00:26:45.049 --> 00:26:48.849
that level of blind, screaming fanaticism for

00:26:48.849 --> 00:26:51.130
a financial product, when people are chanting

00:26:51.130 --> 00:26:53.029
the name of an asset class like it's a deity,

00:26:53.190 --> 00:26:55.890
run. Run fast. Run very, very fast in the other

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direction. So the party ended. The music stopped.

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The scream faded. And then came the lawyers.

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This brings us to Section 7, the legal fallout.

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The bill comes due. We mentioned that $2 .4 billion

00:27:07.829 --> 00:27:10.829
figure from the SEC. Yes. In September 2021,

00:27:11.190 --> 00:27:13.950
the SEC officially sued BitConnect, Kumani, and

00:27:13.950 --> 00:27:16.029
Arcaro. They alleged that they defrauded U .S.

00:27:16.049 --> 00:27:18.769
investors of a total of $2 .4 billion. It's one

00:27:18.769 --> 00:27:20.369
of the largest crypto -related frauds they've

00:27:20.369 --> 00:27:22.529
ever prosecuted. It's just a staggering number.

00:27:22.750 --> 00:27:25.029
And the civil actions, the class action lawsuits

00:27:25.029 --> 00:27:27.839
from investors, they started... Pretty much immediately

00:27:27.839 --> 00:27:30.660
after the collapse, right? Right. January 31st,

00:27:30.660 --> 00:27:33.400
2018. A temporary restraining order was issued

00:27:33.400 --> 00:27:36.019
to freeze their assets. But here's the problem.

00:27:36.599 --> 00:27:39.279
Freezing assets implies that you can actually

00:27:39.279 --> 00:27:42.769
find the assets. And let me guess. The money

00:27:42.769 --> 00:27:45.730
was long gone. Well, not just that. It was a

00:27:45.730 --> 00:27:48.630
structural problem. BitConnect as a corporate

00:27:48.630 --> 00:27:51.970
entity never actually existed. Wait, what do

00:27:51.970 --> 00:27:54.329
you mean? It was a decentralized structure by

00:27:54.329 --> 00:27:56.609
design. There wasn't a BitConnect Inc. headquarters

00:27:56.609 --> 00:27:59.029
in a skyscraper in New York that the FBI could

00:27:59.029 --> 00:28:01.769
raid. There were no filing cabinets full of documents.

00:28:01.970 --> 00:28:04.029
There was no central server farm. It was just

00:28:04.029 --> 00:28:06.690
a distributed network of code and anonymous crypto

00:28:06.690 --> 00:28:09.500
wallets scattered all over the world. This made

00:28:09.500 --> 00:28:12.079
locating and seizing assets incredibly difficult.

00:28:12.420 --> 00:28:15.039
The court ordered the disclosure of wallet addresses

00:28:15.039 --> 00:28:16.940
and the identities of the people who controlled

00:28:16.940 --> 00:28:19.599
them. But you are literally chasing ghosts on

00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:22.119
the blockchain. Funds can be tumbled, mixed and

00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:24.559
moved across international borders in seconds

00:28:24.559 --> 00:28:28.220
with no paper trail. This is the dark side of

00:28:28.220 --> 00:28:30.359
decentralization that people don't often talk

00:28:30.359 --> 00:28:32.779
about. It can be used as a shield for crime.

00:28:33.299 --> 00:28:36.000
Precisely. It turns the legal process into a

00:28:36.000 --> 00:28:38.299
very slow and expensive game of whack -a -mole.

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.740
However, the legal system is persistent. We saw

00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:45.140
the criminal actions against Arcaro result in

00:28:45.140 --> 00:28:48.119
a conviction. And more recently, on January 12th,

00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:51.400
2023, a federal court in San Diego ordered a

00:28:51.400 --> 00:28:53.980
restitution distribution. So victims are actually

00:28:53.980 --> 00:28:56.440
getting some money back. Some victims, yes. About

00:28:56.440 --> 00:28:59.579
800 of them qualified for this specific distribution

00:28:59.579 --> 00:29:02.839
of funds seized from Glenn Arcaro. The total

00:29:02.839 --> 00:29:06.430
amount being distributed. $17 million. $17 million.

00:29:06.630 --> 00:29:09.490
Correct. Out of an estimated $2 .4 billion in

00:29:09.490 --> 00:29:12.210
losses. It is less than 1%. It is a drop in the

00:29:12.210 --> 00:29:14.710
ocean. That is just heartbreaking. It is. And

00:29:14.710 --> 00:29:16.470
that is the ultimate tragedy of these schemes.

00:29:16.990 --> 00:29:19.730
Once the money enters the crypto ecosystem and

00:29:19.730 --> 00:29:22.670
gets properly washed and distributed, it is incredibly,

00:29:22.769 --> 00:29:25.890
almost impossibly hard to get back. Most of that

00:29:25.890 --> 00:29:28.910
$2 .4 billion is likely gone, forever spent on

00:29:28.910 --> 00:29:31.990
luxury cars and mansions, hitting in untraceable

00:29:31.990 --> 00:29:35.109
cold storage wallets, or simply lost to the volatility

00:29:35.109 --> 00:29:37.390
of the crypto market itself. So let's zoom out.

00:29:37.450 --> 00:29:39.710
We've gone through this whole sordid tale. We've

00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:41.190
looked at the tech, the scam, the people, the

00:29:41.190 --> 00:29:43.670
meme. If we step back and look at the whole picture,

00:29:43.829 --> 00:29:46.759
what is the big takeaway here? The summary is

00:29:46.759 --> 00:29:49.920
painfully clear. BitConnect was a classic, old

00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:52.279
fashioned Ponzi scheme dressed up in modern,

00:29:52.460 --> 00:29:55.299
complicated blockchain terminology. It used the

00:29:55.299 --> 00:29:57.500
complexity and the hype around crypto words like

00:29:57.500 --> 00:30:00.259
blockchain, trading bots, volatility software,

00:30:00.519 --> 00:30:03.119
proof of stake to hide a simple mechanism that

00:30:03.119 --> 00:30:05.259
Charles Ponzi would have recognized in 1920.

00:30:05.680 --> 00:30:08.859
It promised 1 % daily returns, which we've established

00:30:08.859 --> 00:30:11.759
is mathematically impossible and unsustainable.

00:30:12.009 --> 00:30:14.730
And it collapsed the very moment any kind of

00:30:14.730 --> 00:30:17.950
real regulatory scrutiny appeared. The magical

00:30:17.950 --> 00:30:20.150
bot couldn't survive a cease and desist letter

00:30:20.150 --> 00:30:22.309
because the bot never existed in the first place.

00:30:22.549 --> 00:30:25.029
You know, it's easy to look back now with the

00:30:25.029 --> 00:30:27.130
benefit of hindsight and say, how could people

00:30:27.130 --> 00:30:29.769
be so stupid? But I think that's unfair. Yeah.

00:30:29.869 --> 00:30:31.450
That misses the point of how seductive these

00:30:31.450 --> 00:30:33.809
things are. It is extremely unfair. These schemes

00:30:33.809 --> 00:30:36.630
are designed to bypass our logic centers. They

00:30:36.630 --> 00:30:39.289
don't target our intellect. They target our hope.

00:30:39.430 --> 00:30:42.809
They target our greed. And they create a powerful

00:30:42.809 --> 00:30:46.369
community like that event in Thailand that reinforces.

00:30:46.480 --> 00:30:48.640
the lie. They make you feel like you are part

00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.500
of a special club, a revolution. I keep thinking

00:30:51.500 --> 00:30:54.099
about Carlos Matos on that stage. He wasn't one

00:30:54.099 --> 00:30:56.500
of the core scammers. He was a victim who became

00:30:56.500 --> 00:30:58.940
a promoter because he truly believed it. He was

00:30:58.940 --> 00:31:00.660
a true believer and there were thousands like

00:31:00.660 --> 00:31:02.640
him. He represents thousands of others who weren't

00:31:02.640 --> 00:31:05.440
on a stage but felt the exact same way. They

00:31:05.440 --> 00:31:07.660
desperately wanted to believe there was a shortcut

00:31:07.660 --> 00:31:10.079
to financial freedom and BitConnect sold them

00:31:10.079 --> 00:31:12.700
that dream. So for you, for our listeners, the

00:31:12.700 --> 00:31:16.119
ultimate lesson is what? The lesson is absolute

00:31:16.119 --> 00:31:20.599
radical skepticism. If someone, anyone, promises

00:31:20.599 --> 00:31:23.539
you guaranteed returns, especially anything approaching

00:31:23.539 --> 00:31:27.539
1 % a day, it is a scam. Full stop. There is

00:31:27.539 --> 00:31:30.940
no software, no AI, no quantum computer that

00:31:30.940 --> 00:31:33.960
can guarantee profit in a volatile market. The

00:31:33.960 --> 00:31:37.039
fundamental principle is this. If it sounds too

00:31:37.039 --> 00:31:40.460
good to be true, it is. Every single time. The

00:31:40.460 --> 00:31:42.980
technology changes, but the scam remains the

00:31:42.980 --> 00:31:45.200
same. Exactly. Today, it's a crypto trading bot.

00:31:45.400 --> 00:31:47.839
Tomorrow, it might be an AI -driven real estate

00:31:47.839 --> 00:31:50.279
fund. The day after that, it might be asteroid

00:31:50.279 --> 00:31:53.119
mining rights. The pitch changes, but the underlying

00:31:53.119 --> 00:31:55.900
Ponzi math does not. That's a sobering thought.

00:31:56.119 --> 00:31:58.799
I want to leave us with one final, slightly provocative

00:31:58.799 --> 00:32:01.410
thought to chew on. We mentioned Divya Starji,

00:32:01.529 --> 00:32:03.430
the guy from India, getting arrested for another

00:32:03.430 --> 00:32:05.769
scam called RegalCoin right after BitConnect

00:32:05.769 --> 00:32:07.890
blew up. Yes. It's like a hydra, isn't it? You

00:32:07.890 --> 00:32:10.009
cut off one head and two more grow back in its

00:32:10.009 --> 00:32:12.130
place. That is the unfortunate reality of the

00:32:12.130 --> 00:32:14.890
space. BitConnect is gone. The scream is now

00:32:14.890 --> 00:32:18.930
a joke on TikTok. But somewhere, right now, on

00:32:18.930 --> 00:32:21.690
a Telegram channel or a Discord server, there

00:32:21.690 --> 00:32:24.809
is a new version of this brewing. A new magic

00:32:24.809 --> 00:32:28.079
bot. A new revolutionary platform. And people

00:32:28.079 --> 00:32:29.759
are putting their life savings into it right

00:32:29.759 --> 00:32:33.200
now as we speak. Exactly. So the question that

00:32:33.200 --> 00:32:35.660
kind of keeps me up at night is this. What is

00:32:35.660 --> 00:32:37.700
the next BitConnect that is operating right now

00:32:37.700 --> 00:32:39.519
that we just haven't identified yet? And it should

00:32:39.519 --> 00:32:42.160
keep all of us up. Vigilance is the only real

00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:44.769
defense. Well, on that cheerful note, I think

00:32:44.769 --> 00:32:47.170
we're going to wrap up this deep dive. Thank

00:32:47.170 --> 00:32:49.230
you for listening and thanks for unpacking this

00:32:49.230 --> 00:32:51.210
absolute madness with me. Always a pleasure,

00:32:51.349 --> 00:32:53.950
even when the topic is this dark. Keep your wallet

00:32:53.950 --> 00:32:55.390
safe, everyone. We'll see you next time.
