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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. I have a stack

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of documents on my desk today that honestly reads

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less like a financial report and more like, I

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don't know, the screenplay for a really dark,

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really expensive satire. We've got court filings

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from the British Virgin Islands, leaked WhatsApp

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messages, liquidation reports. And interviews

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conducted from... Undisclosed locations. Exactly.

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It is quite the stack. Usually when we look at

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financial collapses, we're dealing with pretty

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dry, boring things, interest rate mismatches,

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regulatory gray areas, dull accounting errors.

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But today, we are looking at something entirely

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different. We are looking at three arrows capital

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or three AC. And just to set the stakes here

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for you, we are not talking about some small

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hedge fund having a bad quarter. No. Not at all.

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We were talking about the firm that was for a

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brief moment, kind of like the central bank of

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the crypto universe. Right. When they collapsed

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in 2022, they didn't just lose their own money.

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No. They vaporized roughly three and a half billion

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dollars of other people's money. They left a

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blast radius that took down lenders, exchanges

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and thousands of retail investors. And that is

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the what? But the how and the who are what we

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are digging into today, because the main characters

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here, Suzu and Kyle Davies, they aren't your

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typical, you know, Bernie Madoff villains who

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hide in the shadows. They are. Well, they're

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distinct. That's a diplomatic way to put it.

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We are talking about guys who. ghosted their

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creditors to go surf and baller we're talking

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about a 150 million dollar yacht named much wow

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and you can't forget the permaculture farm in

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singapore oh right filled with specific breeds

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of dragonflies it's just But our mission today

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isn't just to gawk at the absurdity. It's to

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figure out how two high school friends convinced

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the smartest lenders in the world to give them

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billions of dollars with. And I was shocked when

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I read this. Almost no collateral. How does that

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even happen? Well, it happens because of a very

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specific type of modern delusion. It's a story

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about what happens when you mistake leverage

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for genius. And to understand the collapse, you

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really have to understand the psychology that

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built the machine in the first place. So let's

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rewind. Before the yacht, before the billions,

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before the prison sentences, who are these guys?

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Because in the photos I've seen, they look like

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pretty standard finance bros. And that's where

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it starts, surprisingly, in a very traditional

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way. Suzu and Kyle Davies met at Phillips Academy

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in Andover. Okay, so Phillips Academy. That is

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the elite of the elite. That's old money, prestige,

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the whole nine yards. Exactly. It's a feeder

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school for the Ivy League. Yeah. And that's exactly

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where they went. They both landed at Columbia

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University. They followed the golden path of

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finance, good school, math degrees, and then

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straight onto the trading floor at Credit Suisse.

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This is important context, I think. They weren't

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crypto -native hackers living in a basement mining

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Bitcoin on a laptop. No, not at all. They were

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institutional. They spoke the language of Wall

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Street. They did. And that pedigree is, I think,

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partially what allowed them to get away with

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so much later on. But they didn't stay in Credit

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Suisse for very long. They had an itch. In 2012,

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they quit the bank and launched Three Arrows

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Capital. 2012. Wow. Bitcoin is barely a blip

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on the radar then. Were they buying crypto back

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then? No. And this is the part of the story most

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people miss. For the first five or six years,

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Three Arrows Capital wasn't a crypto fund at

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all. It was an FX arbitrage fund. Okay, let's

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pause there. FX arbitrage. We hear this term

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arbitrage a lot. Break that down for us. What

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were they actually doing day to day? So in the

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simplest terms, arbitrage is, you know, finding

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the same item sold for two different prices in

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two different places. And you pocket the difference.

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Sue and Kyle focused on emerging market foreign

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exchange derivatives, specifically NDFs, non

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-deliverable forwards. That sounds incredibly

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dry. Why those currencies specifically? Why not

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just trade the euro or the US dollar? Because

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the major markets are just too efficient. Everyone

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knows the price of the euro down to the microsecond.

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But in emerging markets, think the Indonesian

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rupee, the Korean one, the Indian rupee, the

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pricing can get messy. Electronic trading platforms

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would sometimes show a price that was lightly

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stale or slightly different from the real market

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price. So they were hunting for glitches, like

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mistakes in the matrix. Essentially, yes. They

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wrote code to scrape these electronic platforms.

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If a bank's computer said the price was X but

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the real market was Y, 3AC would just smash the

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buy button, lock in the profit, and then sell

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it instantly. That sounds risky. Or is it free

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money? In theory, it is free money. It's supposed

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to be risk -free profit. But here's the catch,

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and this tells you everything you need to know

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about Sue and Kyle's psychology. To make real

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money on these tiny price differences, you have

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to trade massive volume. We're talking about

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picking up fractions of a penny millions and

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millions of times. The steamroller strategy.

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Exactly. Picking up pennies in front of a steamroller.

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But the steamroller here wasn't the market crashing.

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It was the banks themselves. See, the banks hated

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this. Why? I mean, if the bank posted the price,

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surely they have to honor it. You would think

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so. But in the fine print of these electronic

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trading agreements, banks often have a last look

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clause. It basically says, oops, that price was

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a mistake. We're canceling the trade. So the

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bank can just call a do -over to say, just get

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it. Yes. And most traders, when a bank cancels

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a trade, they say, OK, sorry about that. Let's

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maintain the relationship. We want to keep trading

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with you tomorrow. Sue and Kyle. They did the

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absolute opposite. What did they do? They fought

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every single cancellation. Really? They would

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refuse to let the banks back out. They'd quote

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the rule book. They'd threaten legal action.

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They would basically hold the trade hostage and

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say, you posted the price, you have to pay us.

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They were incredibly aggressive. So they're biting

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the hand that feeds them. That seems really short

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-sighted. It was. They treated the banks as adversaries

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to be beaten, not as partners. And it worked

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for a while. They made millions. But you can

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only poke the bear so many times. By 2017, the

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major banks, we are talking the big global players,

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had had enough. They started deplatforming 3AC.

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They got kicked out of the casino. They did.

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They had the capital. They had this hyper -aggressive

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mindset. But they had nowhere left to trade.

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The FX market was effectively closed to them.

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And this is a crucial pivot point. It's 2017.

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Where do you go if you have a high risk tolerance,

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a lot of cash, and you hate the traditional banking

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system? You go to crypto. You go to crypto. And

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this is where the story shifts gears. They took

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that same exact strategy, aggressive, leverage

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heavy, finding inefficiencies, and applied it

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to a market that was the wild west. It's like

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taking a Formula One driver who's used to a pristine

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track and just dropping them into a demolition

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derby. That's a perfect analogy. So let's talk

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about the rise. Once they made that switch, they

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didn't just participate. I mean, they dominated.

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They scaled incredibly fast. By March of 2022,

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the blockchain analytics firm Nansen estimated

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they managed about $10 billion in crypto assets.

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And 3AC's own last public statement claimed a

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net asset value, or NAV, of $18 billion. $18

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billion. That is a staggering number. But wait,

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if they started with millions from FX trading.

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How do you get to 18 billion in five years? Even

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with crypto going up as much as it did, that

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math seems aggressive. That is the right question

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to ask. And the answer is borrowing. There's

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significant evidence, and certainly looking at

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the bankruptcy filings now, that most of those

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visible assets weren't really theirs in the traditional

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sense. What do you mean? They were sourced from

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uncollateralized borrowing. Uncollateralized

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borrowing. Okay, let's unpack that. If I go to

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a bank for a mortgage, I have to pledge the house.

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If I don't pay, they take my house. What does

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uncollateralized mean in this context? It means

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they were borrowing on a handshake and a reputation.

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They would go to a lender like, say, Voyager

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or Genesis and say, look at our assets, look

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at our track record, lend us $500 million in

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Bitcoin. And because 3AC was the golden child

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of the industry, the lenders just said yes. Without

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asking for $500 million worth of insurance or

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some other asset to back it up. Often with very,

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very little. Or they would accept collateral

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that was itself just other volatile crypto tokens.

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It was a house of cards built on trust. And frankly.

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FOMO from the lenders. And Suzu made sure to

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maintain that image. Right. He wasn't exactly

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keeping a low profile during all this. Not at

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all. He became a massive influencer. He amassed

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over half a million Twitter followers. They weren't

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just traders. They became the thought leaders

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of this super cycle. The super cycle. I remember

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this vividly. This was the thesis that crypto

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was done with the boom and bust cycles. From

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now on, it was just going to go up forever because

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of institutional adoption. That was the thesis.

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Up only. And because they were so loud about

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it and because they had so much money under management,

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people believed them. They backed major projects.

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I mean, if you look at their portfolio, it was

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a who's who of the 2021 bull run. Like what?

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AAV, Avalanche, WorldCoin, BlockFi, Deribit,

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Ethereum, Polkadot, Solana, WO Network, you name

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it, they were in it. It sounds like they just

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bought the entire market. They practically did.

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But they had a few specific bets that were absolutely

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massive. And these are the ones that eventually

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came back to haunt them. And the biggest one,

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the one we really need to understand, is the

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Grayscale Bitcoin Trust, or GBTC. Okay, GBTC.

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In the sources, this comes up over and over again.

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It was their primary engine of wealth, and then

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their coffin. But I'll be honest, the mechanism

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here is a little confusing. Why would you buy

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grayscale Bitcoin instead of just buying Bitcoin?

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This is the multibillion dollar question. To

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understand this, you have to understand that

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back in 2020 and 2021, big institutional investors,

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pension funds, retirement accounts, they couldn't

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just go to Coinbase and buy Bitcoin. Right. Regulations

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didn't allow it. Right. Their charters wouldn't

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allow them to hold magic internet money directly.

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Right. They need a regulated product, something

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that looks like a stock they can see in their

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brokerage account. Exactly. And GBTC was the

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only game in town. It was a trust that held Bitcoin

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and you could buy shares of the trust. But because

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it was the only way for big money to get exposure,

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those shares traded at a massive premium. Give

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me a number. What kind of premium are we talking

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about? At times, their shares were trading 40

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% higher than the value of the Bitcoin that was

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actually inside the trust. Wait, let me get this

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straight. So if I have $100 worth of Bitcoin

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in the trust, people are paying $140 just to

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own the paper claim to it? Yes. It sounds insane,

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but that was the market inefficiency. And Sue

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and Kyle, you have to remember, are arbitrage

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traders at heart. They saw this and said, this

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is free money. Walk me through the trade. How

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did they exploit this? It's a loop, a beautiful,

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simple loop. Step one, you borrow Bitcoin from

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a lender. Step two, you give that Bitcoin to

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Grayscale. In exchange, Grayscale issues you

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shares of GBTC at the net asset value, basically

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the base price, the one -to -one price. Okay.

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So I handed over $100 of Bitcoin. I got back

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a share that the market says is worth $140. I've

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just made $40 instantly. On paper, yes. But there's

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a catch, a big one. The lockup period. You can't

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sell those newly created shares for six months.

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You have to hold them. Ah, okay. So you're betting

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that in six months, that premium will still be

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there or even be higher. Correct. They were betting

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that the hunger for Bitcoin from institutions

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would stay so high that the shares would always

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be worth more than the coins. And for a long

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time, they were right. They did this loop over

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and over again. Borrow Bitcoin, convert to GBTC,

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wait six months, sell to huge profit, pay back

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the loan and keep the difference. Yeah. It was

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a money printer. Until it wasn't. Until it wasn't.

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Until Canada launched a Bitcoin ETF. Until other

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options appeared. Suddenly, institutional investors

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didn't need GBTC anymore. The demand dried up.

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And that premium, it didn't just vanish, it flipped.

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It went negative. Deeply negative. It went to

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a discount. Suddenly, that share backed by $100

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of Bitcoin was trading for $80, $70 on the open

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market. And 3AC is holding how much of this stuff?

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As of the end of 2020. They held almost 39 million

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units. They were the largest single holder in

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the world. And remember, they borrowed the Bitcoin

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to create those shares. So now they owe the lender

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one Bitcoin. But the asset they hold, the GBTC

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share, is worth less than one Bitcoin. They are

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completely underwater. And because they used

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leverage, they didn't just lose their profit,

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they lost the principal. And unlike a normal

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stock, they couldn't just sell the underlying

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asset. You cannot redeem GBTC shares for actual

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Bitcoin. It's like the Hotel California. You

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can check in, but you can't check out. So they

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were trapped, just trapped in a burning building

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with no exit door. Exactly. That is terrifying.

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But they didn't stop there, did they? Because

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I guess if you're losing money on one massive

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bet, the gambler's fallacy says you should double

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down on another one. Enter Lunanay. Right. While

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the GBTC trade was slowly bleeding them out,

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they made a massive directional bet on Lunanay.

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In February of 2022, they invested approximately

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$200 million in Lunanay tokens. $200 million.

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And this wasn't an arbitrage play, was it? This

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was just, I believe in this project. This was

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pure ideology. Suzu was close with the founders

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of Terraluna. He believed in the algorithmic

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stablecoin model. It was a statement play. He

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was signaling to the market the super cycle is

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real and Lunene is the future. He was all over

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Twitter pumping it. And we all know how that

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ended. We do. In May 2022, Lunene collapsed.

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It went to zero. And it happened so fast that

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$200 million, it essentially evaporated in a

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matter of days. So just to recap the situation.

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we have a fund that is trapped in an illiquid

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gbtc position that is trading at a huge discount

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we have a 200 million dollar hole from lunine

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and on top of all that The entire crypto market

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is crashing because of macroeconomics inflation,

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the Fed raising rates. The dominoes were perfectly

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aligned. All it needed was a push. And that push

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was the broader market decline in June of 2022.

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Bitcoin dropped. Ethereum dropped. And this is

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when the margin calls start coming in. Let's

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talk about that moment, the catalyst. Because

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a margin call is basically a lender calling you

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up and saying, hey, the stuff you gave us as

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collateral isn't worth enough anymore. Send more

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cash or we sell your stuff. Exactly. And usually.

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A fund will sell some liquid assets to cover

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it. But 3AC didn't have liquid assets. Their

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money was stuck in GBTC, or locked in private

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equity deals for projects that hadn't even launched

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yet, or it was completely vaporized in L &amp;A.

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They had no cash. So what do they do? Do they

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call up their lenders and say, hey guys, we're

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in a bit of a bind, let's work this out? No.

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They went dark. This is the ghosting phase. Lenders

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were calling, emailing, sending messages on Telegram.

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Nothing. Just radio silence. I cannot imagine

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being a lender at Voyager Digital or Genesis

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realizing you lent hundreds of millions of dollars

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to these guys and they just won't pick up the

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phone. It creates absolute panic. On June 16,

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2022, the Financial Times broke the story that

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3AC had failed to meet margin calls. That was

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the death knell. Once that news is out, every

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other lender rushes to liquidate whatever tiny

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bits of collateral they do have. It's a run on

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the bank, but the bank is 3AC. Precisely. On

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June 22, The Wall Street Journal reported they

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failed to repay loans to Voyager Digital. Then

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on June 27, Voyager issued a formal notice of

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default. 3AC failed to pay a loan worth more

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than $665 million. Wow. That was in Bitcoin and

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USDC. $665 million just gone, defaulted on. And

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that same day, June 27, the legal hammer came

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down. A court in the British Virgin Islands ordered

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the liquidation of Three Arrows Capital. They

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appointed a firm called Tenio to oversee the

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whole mess. So the party is officially over.

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It was. By July 2, 3AC had filed for Chapter

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15 bankruptcy in the U .S. to protect its assets

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from being seized. And the filings? They revealed

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the true extent of the damage. They owed 27 different

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creditors a total of $3 .5 billion. Five billion.

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And the fund itself, what was the final tally

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of the loss? The fund lost in excess of $3 billion

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over 2021 and 2022. It goes down as one of the

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largest hedge fund trading losses of all time,

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period. It's just hard to even wrap your head

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around those numbers. But what makes this story

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so critical is that 3AC didn't die alone. They

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took people with them. This is the contagion

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we talked about in the intro. That's the so what

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of this story. Why does it matter if one hedge

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fund fails? It matters because 3AC was so interconnected,

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they were borrowing from everyone. So when they

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defaulted, those lenders suddenly had massive

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holes in their own balance sheets. Voyager Digital

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being the prime example here. Voyager was a direct

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casualty. The 3AC default was partially, if not

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mostly, responsible for Voyager's own bankruptcy.

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They had lent a huge chunk of their customers

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money to 3AC. When 3AC couldn't pay, Voyager

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couldn't pay its customers. I want to pause on

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that for a second. Why on earth would Voyager

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lend that much money, customer money, to one

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single counterparty? It just seems unbelievably

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reckless. It was. But you have to remember the

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environment at the time. 3AC was considered the

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risk -free rate of crypto. They were seen as

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too big to fail. Voyager thought if we lend to

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Sue and Kyle, we're safe. They were chasing yield.

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3AC was paying very high interest rates to borrow

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that crypto. Voyager needed that yield to pay

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their own customers those high rates they were

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advertising. It was a yield trap. And it wasn't

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just Voyager, was it? No, not by a long shot.

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Genesis Trading, one of the biggest prime brokers

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in the entire space, was hit hard. Their CEO,

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Michael Morrow, announced substantial losses

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from loans to 3AC. Their parent company, DCG,

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actually had to step in and assume the liabilities

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just to keep Genesis from collapsing right then

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and there. Even blockchain .com had to do layoffs

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because of the impact. Correct. It rippled everywhere.

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Even Sam Bankman Freed, and I know it is so ironic

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to quote him now given everything that happened

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later with FTX, but even he at the time blamed

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3AC for causing the ripple effect that froze

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assets across the industry. He saw 3AC as the

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first big domino that destabilized the whole

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system. It's wild to think about that timeline.

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3AC falls, which weakens everyone else. It creates

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this massive credit crunch. And then a few months

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later, FTX itself collapses. It was just a brutal,

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brutal year. It was a systematic unwinding of

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leverage. One piece fell and took all the others

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with it. Now, here is where the story shifts

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from a financial tragedy to, I don't even know

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what to call it, a farce, a mystery. Because

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while their company is imploding, while creditors

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are screaming for their billions. Suzu and Kyle

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Davies decide to pull a vanishing act. This is

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the ghosting phase we mentioned. Liquidators

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from Teneo reported that Davies and Zu were simply

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not cooperating. They weren't answering questions.

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They weren't providing documents. As of July

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8, 2022, their whereabouts were officially unknown.

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Just gone, like Interpol notice, gone. Pretty

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close to it. They eventually surfaced for an

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interview with Blingberg, but even that was conducted

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from an undisclosed location. In it, they mentioned

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they were planning to move to the UAE. Which

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conveniently has no extradition treaty with Singapore

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or the U .S. Precisely. They were running. And

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while they were running, details started coming

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out about the lifestyle they left behind. And

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this is where we absolutely have to talk about

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the yacht. The yacht. Much wow. That was the

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name. Much wow. A nod to the doge meat. Of course

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it was. Because nothing says Syria's institutional

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grade financial firm. Like a doge meme on a mega

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yacht. It was a $150 million vessel. The sources

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say it was purchased, or at least commissioned,

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during the peak of their success. But as the

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liquidity crisis hit, it became the symbol of

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their excess. $150 million that could have gone

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to creditors sunk into a boat named after a meme.

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It's almost too perfect a metaphor for the whole

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situation. But they weren't on the yacht when

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this all went down, were they? No. While the

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liquidation was happening in June 2022, while

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their employees were wondering if they still

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had jobs, the New York Times reported that Sue

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and Kyle were in Bali. Bali, surfboards and smoothie

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bowls. Suzu was reportedly trying surfing for

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the first time. Kyle Davies was dabbling in painting

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and meditating. I have to quote Davies here because

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this line drove me crazy when I read it. He said,

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and I quote, I really spent so much time meditating

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in Bali that I'm really just pretty zenned out.

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It is a staggering lack of self -awareness. Or.

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Maybe it's the ultimate awareness. What do you

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mean? You've just destroyed billions of dollars

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of wealth. People have lost their life savings

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because of the contagion you caused. And you

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are zenned out painting in Bali. It's so far

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beyond normal human reaction. It's the ultimate

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pivot. From Master of the Universe to Zen Monk

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in three easy steps. It feels like a defense

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mechanism. If you pretend it doesn't matter,

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maybe the guilt doesn't crush you. Or perhaps

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it reveals how they viewed the money all along

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as numbers on a screen. A game. And if the game

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resets, you just go meditate until the next round

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starts. And we can't forget the Singapore residents.

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Before they fled... Zhu and his family lived

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in what's called a good class bungalow in Singapore.

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Which is real estate speak for unbelievably obscenely

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expensive mansion. Yes. But it wasn't just a

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house. It had a permaculture farm. A permaculture

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farm. An elaborate system of lakes and gardens

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designed to replicate self -sustaining ecosystems.

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It was home to ducks, chickens, and as you mentioned,

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numerous types of dragonflies. There is something

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deeply, deeply ironic about that. They were obsessed

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with building a self -sustaining ecosystem in

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their backyard, filled with dragonflies and ducks,

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while simultaneously destroying the financial

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ecosystem they were a part of. It speaks to a

00:21:48.079 --> 00:21:50.599
certain type of mindset, I think. The desire

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to control complex systems. Whether it is an

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algorithmic trading strategy or a permaculture

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pond, they believe they could engineer a perfect

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loop. But in finance, unlike in a pond, you can't

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control the external variables. You can't control

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the Fed. You can't control panic. And you definitely

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can't control the price of LNA. So they're in

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Bali. They're zenned out. The yacht is somewhere.

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Actually, I read the yacht was repossessed before

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it was even fully delivered, right? That's correct.

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The shipbuilder eventually sold it to someone

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else. Much wow. Never really set sail under their

00:22:21.019 --> 00:22:23.380
command. Another perfect metaphor. OK, so the

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money is gone, but the law does have a long arm.

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Let's fast forward to the consequences. Did they

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get away with it? Well, yes and no. It's complicated.

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In September of 2023, Suzu was actually arrested.

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Finally? Where? At Changki Airport in Singapore.

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He was trying to leave the country. Trying to

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fly out, probably back to the Zen life. He was

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arrested pursuant to committal orders. Basically,

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he was sentenced to four months in prison. Four

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months? For losing $3 billion? That's incredibly

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late. No, and this is a really important distinction.

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He wasn't sentenced for the financial loss itself.

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Being bad at trading isn't a crime, usually.

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Unless there is proven fraud, losing a lot of

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money is just losing a lot of money. So what

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was the prison time for? He was sentenced for

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failing to cooperate with the liquidators. It

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was a contempt of court issue. Ah, okay. So it

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was for the ghosting, not for the losing. Correct.

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And his review of prison was, well, it was surprising.

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Do tell. He later described his time in prison

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as... Really enjoyable. You're kidding me? Enjoyable?

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He said it was enjoyable because he didn't have

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internet or caffeine or alcohol. He treated it

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like a forced detox retreat. He said he read

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books and did push -ups. Only Suzu could turn

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a prison sentence into a wellness anecdote. Five

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stars? Great for dopamine fasting? Would recommend.

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It's unbelievable. It fits the pattern, doesn't

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it? Yeah. Reframing every single failure as part

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of the grand journey. Meanwhile... Kyle Davies's

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location remained unknown during Zoo's arrest,

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though he was subject to the same committal order.

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He managed to stay out of the net. So Zoo does

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his time. Davies is in the win. You would think

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after all this public shaming, after the bankruptcy,

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after the prison stint, they would just fade

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away. Maybe open a real surf shop in Bali. You

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would think. But this is where the story gets

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into zombie territory. They didn't leave the

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industry. Despite the collapse, despite the reputation

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damage, they came back. And they didn't just

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come back as traders. They started an exchange.

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Yes. In late 2022, they launched OPNX, which

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stands for Open Exchange, based out of Hong Kong.

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And get this, it was a marketplace for trading

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bankruptcy claims. That is unbelievably ironic.

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They create a market to trade the debt of companies

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like the ones they helped destroy. It is the

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ultimate cynical pivot. We broke it. Now let

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us help you trade the pieces. They were allowing

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people who lost money in FTX Celsius. or Voyager

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to sell their claims for immediate liquidity.

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It feels like an arsonist starting a fire extinguisher

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company the very next day. Davies even tweeted

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about it. He said, and this is a direct quote,

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I'm getting early 3AC vibes all over again. Nothing

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compares to the energy of a startup. Early 3AC

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vibes. I don't think that's the flex he thinks

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it is. Hey, remember that time we started the

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thing that eventually imploded and ruined countless

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people? I'm getting that feeling again. It shows

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a complete disconnect from the trauma they caused.

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Or maybe it shows that they know exactly what

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they're doing. They know that in crypto, controversy

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sells. And they didn't stop there. In early 2024,

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they joined as advisors for a platform called

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OX .UN. O -X -A -F -U -N. The name alone. Another

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exchange. This one, a gamified trading platform

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with a dual token model. Gamified trading. Just

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what the world needs more of. Because the problem

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with crypto is that it wasn't enough like a video

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game. And then, late 2024, the cherry on top.

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A meme coin, of course. It had to end with a

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meme coin. The 3AC token. Yeah. A meme coin project

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they were directly connected to. It had a 1 %

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transaction tax, high insider concentration,

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basically all the red flags of a quick cash grab.

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And it faced criticism, I assume. Massive criticism.

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It was volatile, illiquid. Basically a microcosm

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of everything risky and predatory about crypto

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packaged with their infamous brand on it. It's

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baffling. If I lost $3 billion, I think I would

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change my name and move to a cabin in the woods.

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These guys launch a token named after their own

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failure. It raises a fascinating question about

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the crypto industry itself. In traditional finance,

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if you blow up a bank, you are usually done.

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You are a pariah. In crypto, notoriety is a form

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of currency. The fact that they are famous even

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for failure gives them attention, which they

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can then monetize. That is a deeply depressing

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thought. It rewards the spectacle regardless

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of the outcome. Okay, let's bring this home.

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We've covered the origin, the rise, the crash,

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the yacht, the prison detox, and the zombie comeback.

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What is the big takeaway here? The story of Three

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Arrows Capital is the definitive lesson in leverage

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and contagion in the modern crypto era. It showed

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us that the crypto ecosystem was not a decentralized

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mesh of independent actors. It was a tightly

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wound ball of yarn. When one thread Lunene pulled,

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It unraveled 3AC. When 3AC unraveled, it took

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down the lenders like Voyager and Genesis. It

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was a house of cards where everyone was borrowing

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from everyone else to buy the same assets. Exactly.

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And the assets backing it all were volatile tokens

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that could vanish in value overnight. It was

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an $18 billion illusion built on the idea that

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the music would never, ever stop. And when the

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music stopped, there were no chairs left. And

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the people running the game just walked out the

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back door to meditate in Bali. Liquidators are

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still seeking to recover $1 .3 billion from the

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founders. That money belongs to creditors. It

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belongs to the people who trusted the system.

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And meanwhile, the founders are out there launching

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gamified exchanges and trying to get people to

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buy their meme coin. Which leads to the provocative

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thought for you to think about today. If the

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architects of a $3 billion collapse can return

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to the industry within two years to launch meme

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coins and new exchanges, has the industry actually

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learned anything about due diligence? Or are

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we all just waiting for the next much wow? I

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fear it might be the latter. As long as there

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is greed, there will be people like Sue and Kyle

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willing to sell the dream of infinite leverage.

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On that uplifting note, thank you for listening

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to this deep dive into Three Arrows Capital.

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It's a wild story, but a necessary one to understand

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the world of crypto. Always a pleasure. Keep

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questioning the numbers and always ask what the

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collateral is. We'll see you next time.
