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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are putting

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on our musical archaeologist hats. We're going

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digging. Digging is definitely the right word.

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Yeah. Because usually when we talk about music

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history, we look at the skyscrapers. Yeah. The

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massive, undeniable pillars. We talk about the

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explosion of Saturday Night Fever and disco in

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the late 70s. Then we, you know, fast forward

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and talk about Run DMC and the golden age of

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hip hop. It's like we just skip a whole chapter.

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We assume one just died and the other was born

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from the ashes, like instantly. Exactly. history

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doesn't work like a light switch. There's a dusk

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and a dawn. There's this fascinating, murky,

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incredibly creative gray area in the middle.

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The hidden bridge. The hidden bridge. And to

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walk across that bridge, we aren't going to do

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some dry lecture on, you know, the socioeconomics

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of 1980s New York. We're going to look at one

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guy, one song, and one very specific moment in

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1981. We're talking about the track Catch the

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Beat by Teesky Valley. I love this track. But

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I have to admit, Until we started pulling these

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sources, the chart data from Cashbox, the archives

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from Record Mirror, I didn't realize just how

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pivotal this song was. Well, it's essentially

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the DNA of what historians call the post -Disco

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Bronx era of rap. It's the Rosetta Stone for

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that specific time. It is. It connects two worlds

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that really weren't supposed to fit together.

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And the craziest part. The guy who built this

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bridge wasn't some mogul or a big celebrity.

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He was a stock boy. Just a guy moving boxes.

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So our mission today is to figure out how a stock

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boy named Tyrone went from the back of a store

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to the top of the charts and why this one track

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is the perfect time capsule of 1981. Let's get

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into it. All right, so set the scene for us.

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It's 1981, the Bronx. Who is Tyrone before he

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becomes Teesky Valley? Well, at this point, he's

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literally just Tyrone. He's working at a record

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store run by a guy named Brad Osborne. And this

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isn't, you know, some generic retail gig at the

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mall. This is a neighborhood hub. And Osborne

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gives him a very specific job, right? He's not

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just dusting shelves. No. And this is where you

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see the first real spark of genius. Osborne tasks

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Tyrone with setting up a, quote, breakbeat section

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at the back of the shop. Wait, pause right there.

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A breakbeat section in 1981. Yeah. Was that even

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a common thing? Yeah. Because I feel like breakbeats.

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as a genre you could buy, didn't really exist

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on retail shelves yet. That's a great catch.

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It was incredibly forward -thinking. You have

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to remember, hip -hop was still very much a live

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thing. DJs in parks, block parties. Right. But

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Osbourne realized these DJs were coming in and

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hunting for very specific records. Old funk,

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rock, soul. just to get that five -second drum

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break. So instead of making the DJs dig through

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the whole rock section for one Billy Squire record,

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Tyrone was basically curating the ingredients.

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Precisely. Tyrone was doing market research without

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even knowing it. He's organizing the raw materials

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of hip hop. He's handling the vinyl, talking

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to the DJs, seeing what makes the floor move.

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He's soaking it all in just by supplying it.

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Exactly. So he's surrounded by the music. He's

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got the ear. And eventually, looking at all these

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records, he decides, hey, I can do this. He wants

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to go from the guy selling the bricks to the

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guy building the house. Yes. And that leads to

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the pivotal moment, the ask. I always wonder

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about the confidence it takes for that, to walk

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up to your boss, Brad Osborne, and say, what?

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He basically just asks, can I record some hip

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-hop songs? Okay, be cynical for a second. Brad

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Osborne is a businessman. He's running a store.

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Why didn't he just say, kid, get back to work?

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Why take that risk? That's the million -dollar

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question. I think Osborne saw two things. One,

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he saw the hunger in Tyrone. But two, Osborne

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was already releasing music on his own labels.

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He was an entrepreneur. He probably saw that

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this breakbeat section was the busiest part of

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his entire store. So he knew there was a market

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there. He knew the demand was real. But he didn't

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just give Tyrone a pat on the back and a cassette

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recorder. This is where the story takes a sharp

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left turn from your typical garage rapper origin

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story. He booked professional studio time. And

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we're not talking about some budget studio in

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a basement. He sent him to Blank Tape Studios.

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Okay, for all the gearheads and audiophiles listening,

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why does Blank Tape Studios matter? The name

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sounds so unassuming. It sounds generic I know

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but the place was legendary. It was run by Bob

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Blank. This was the studio of choice for the

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absolute disco elite. We're talking heavy hitters.

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Like who? Groups like Music recorded there. The

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Sol Sol Orchestra recorded there. The Sol Sol

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Orchestra. Seriously. I mean, that's the absolute

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pinnacle of like lush, expensive, high production

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disco, full string sections, horns, polished

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engineering. Exactly. So just imagine the atmosphere.

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You have this studio that is calibrated for the

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cleanest, most vibrant sound money can buy. Top

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tier everything. And in walks Tyrone, the stock

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boy, to record a rap track. That contrast is

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just wild. Usually early hip hop has that grit.

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You know, it sounds raw, maybe a little muffled

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because it's made on a four track or something.

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Right. And that's why Catch the Beat hits you

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differently, especially with headphones. It has

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that studio sheen. It sounds expensive. Osbourne

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brought the whole infrastructure of disco and

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just applied it to this new street sound. He

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did. So you have Brad Osbourne producing. You

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have Tyrone on the mic. But digging into the

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credits, there's a third person, right? A kind

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of mystery man. Yes, uncredited on the label,

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but crucial to the whole vibe. Glenn Adams. Glenn

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Adams. And now why do I know that name? If you're

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a reggae fan, you definitely know him. He was

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a keyboardist for the Upsetters' Lee Scratch

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Perry's house band. No way! So you have a Bronx

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stock boy, a record store owner, and a legendary

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reggae keyboardist all in a high -end disco studio.

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It's the ultimate New York melting pot. And Adams

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brought that Caribbean feel, that sense of rhythm

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and space. But the real anchor of the song, the

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thing that makes you move the second it starts,

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is the sample. You have to talk about the sample.

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Because Catch the Beat is the beat. It's built

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on the instrumental of Heartbeat by Tana Gartner.

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Which was a monster club track in its own right.

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A huge hit. It was. But here's the critical distinction.

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Most disco at the time think Born to Be Alive

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or something was fast. It was 120 beats per minute

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or higher. It was frantic. Heartbeat is slow.

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It's around 98 to 100 BPM. It's a strut. It's

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not a sprint. Exactly. It's funky. It breathes.

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And for a rapper, that tempo is a luxury. How

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so? Well, when a beat is 120 BPM, you almost

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have to shout to keep up. You have to be percussive

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with your words. But at 100 BPM, you can slide

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into the pocket. You can be conversational. You

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can have swagger. That makes total sense. T -Ski

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Valley doesn't sound like he's panicking on the

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track. He sounds cool. He sounds like he's just

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leaning against a wall talking to you. That's

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the post -disco sound. It took the instruments

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of disco, the bass lines, the hand claps, but

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slowed it all down to a hip -hop pace. It's the

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Trojan horse approach. How do you mean? Come

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for the familiar disco beat. Stay for the brand

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new rap flow. That is perfectly put. So they

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wrap up a blank tape. They press the record on

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Grand Groove Records. Catalog GG 7701. Does the

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world notice? Or does it just sit in the boxes

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Tyrone used to pack? It definitely did not sit

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in the boxes. It became what we'd call a bona

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fide underground phenomenon. Okay, define underground

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here. Because sometimes that's just code for

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it sold five copies to his friends. Not in this

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case. Underground means it wasn't being played

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on the pop radio stations next to Rick Springfield.

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But in the ecosystem that mattered, the clubs,

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the block parties, the urban centers, it was

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absolutely inescapable. We have some quotes from

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the time. Stuart Baker, writing in Hot Stuff

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magazine, called it a groundbreaking rap song.

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Groundbreaking, that's a heavy word for a debut

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track. And he wasn't alone. Critics started putting

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it up against the brakes. Which is basically

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the gold standard. If you're getting compared

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to Curtis Blow in 1981, you have definitely made

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it. For sure. Piccadilly Records even described

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it as capturing that specific post -Disco Bronx

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era of rap. It's so interesting that even then

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people knew this was a specific era. They knew

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the sound was shifting in real time. Exactly.

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Let's look at the numbers, though. You mentioned

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Cashbox earlier. Why look at Cashbox instead

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of just, say, the Billboard Hot 100? Well, Cashbox

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was often more granular for these specific genres.

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They tracked jukebox play and local independent

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sales way more aggressively than the majors did.

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Okay, so what did they say? In the August 31,

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1981 issue, Cashbox listed Catch the Beat. in

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the East Coast Dance Music Top Ten. Top Ten.

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So by the end of that summer, it's one of the

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biggest tracks in New York. And it stayed there.

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Record World reported in December, that's four

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months later, that it was still selling well

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in the New York area. That kind of longevity

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is rare for dance music. Usually it's churn and

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burn, a new track every week. Why do you think

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this one stuck around? I think it goes back to

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that production quality we talked about. It wasn't

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just a novelty record. It was a great piece of

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music. You could play it at 10 p .m. to start

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the party or at 2 a .m. to keep the vibe going.

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It had utility. It's funny. We often judge success

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now by, like, did it go platinum? But for an

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independent label in 1981, a record selling consistently

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for five months in the tri -state area. That's

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a massive financial win. Huge. It completely

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validated Brad Osborne's gamble. The stock boy

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could actually move units. But the story doesn't

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end in 1981. And it doesn't stay in the Bronx.

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This is the part that really surprised me. The

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second life of Teesky Valley. The European vacation,

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so to speak. Right. We jump forward to 1984.

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Three years later, in music years, that is an

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eternity. Why does this song pop up again? Well,

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the UK was having its own hip hop awakening,

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but on a delayed timeline. By 84, electro and

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breakdancing were just exploding in London. So

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a new version was released, Catch the Beat, Scratch

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the Beat, on the Master Mix and BMC labels. Scratch

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the Beat, of course. They had to add that turntable

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element to make it sound current for 84. Exactly.

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And the British audience devoured it. It spent

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10 weeks on the Record Mirror disco chart. 10

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weeks. 10 weeks. peaking at number 33. It even

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came back later on the Disco Top 85 chart. It

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was a zombie record that just would not die.

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Every time a new wave of kids discovered hip

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-hop, they discovered Kiski Valley. And that

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brings us to the modern era. Because the ultimate

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sign of respect in hip -hop is getting sampled,

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right? You borrow from the best. The DNA test.

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How many times has Catch the Beat been sampled?

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Documented. At least 82 times. 82. Wow. And that's

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across all kinds of genres. But the most high

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profile example has to be the Black Eyed Peas

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connection. Break that down for us. Will .i .am

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sampled Catch the Beat for his song Over, which

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is on his solo album Songs About Girls. So you

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have a direct sonic line from a record store

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backroom in the Bronx to a global pop superstar

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in the 2000s. And Will .i .am is a student of

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the game. He didn't kick that sample by accident.

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He picked it because that groove, that... Heartbeat

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bass line with Kiski's flow is timeless. It just

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works. There was also a remix in 2002 that I

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think is worth mentioning with Dimitri from Paris.

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Yes. On the Peppermint Jam label. Now, Dimitri

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from Paris is a master of the re -edit. He takes

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these old disco tracks and just tightens them

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up. He doesn't ruin them. He just polishes the

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silver. So what did he do to catch the beat?

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He and Moose T gave it what Billboard called

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an old school contemporary feel. They cleaned

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up the low end, punched up the drums for modern

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club systems, but kept the soul of it completely

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intact. And Billboard liked it. They loved it.

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The beatbox column called it cleverly reworked.

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And that's the trick, isn't it? To rework something

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without losing the ghost in the machine. It really

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just reinforces this idea of the bridge. The

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song started as a bridge between disco and rap.

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Yeah. Then the remix became a bridge between

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the analog 80s and the digital 2000s. It's a

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unifier. So let's zoom out. We've looked at the

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chart data, the studio specs. We've tracked the

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samples. What's the big takeaway? Why does Tisky

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Valley matter today? I think Teesky Valley represents

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the power of that transitional moment. We always

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try to categorize history into these neat little

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boxes. This is the disco box. This is the rap

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box. But catch the beat. proves that the most

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interesting art happens when the boxes spill

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over into each other. It was a laboratory. It

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was. And it validated the idea that hip -hop

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didn't have to sound gritty or lo -fi to be authentic.

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It could be polished. It could be melodic. It

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could be recorded in the same room as an orchestra.

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It broadened the whole palette. Exactly. It gave

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permission for rap to be musical in that traditional

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sense. I keep going back to Tyrone and that record

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store. I'm just thinking about the hidden talent

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aspect of all this. The human element. Yeah.

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I mean, think about it. about it you have this

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guy stocking shelves he has this vision for a

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breakbeat section he has the flow but he's just

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there part of the scenery until he's not it's

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a reminder that talent is distributed equally

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but opportunity is not but also that opportunity

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can be created he asked can i record that's a

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scary question to ask your boss and credit to

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brad osborne for saying yes History turns on

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those yes moments. If Osborne says, no, get back

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to work, we probably aren't talking about this.

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That bridge might never have been built. And

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that's the thought I want to leave all of you

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with today. We walk past people every day, baristas,

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bus drivers, stock boys, interns. We see the

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function they perform for us. We don't see the

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symphony playing in their head. Somewhere right

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now, the next genre -defining artist is probably

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scanning groceries or answering a customer support

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email. Just waiting for the moment to ask the

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question. or waiting for someone to give them

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the keys to the studio. It makes you look at

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the world a little differently. It sure does.

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Teesky Valley. Catch the beat. Go listen to it.

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Listen to that tempo. Listen to the confidence.

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And remember where it all came from. From the

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back of the store to the history books. Thanks

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for diving in with us. We'll see you on the next

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one. Goodbye, everyone.
