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You know that specific feeling when you're, say,

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walking through a grocery store or maybe you're

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at a wedding reception and the DJ is cycling

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through the usual suspects. You're kind of half

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listening, maybe thinking about your shopping

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list or checking your watch. Right. It's just

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background noise. It's just background noise.

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But then out of nowhere, you hear this sound

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that just cuts through the air like a knife.

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It isn't just a melody. It's a texture. Oh, yeah.

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It's sharp. It's driving. And honestly, it sounds.

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Kind of cold. It is that immediate, almost aggressive

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synthesizer hook. It just grabs you by the throat

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about four bars in. Exactly. And before you even

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register what song it is, your brain has already

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switched gears. You know exactly where you are.

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We're talking, of course, about ABA's Gibby Gibby

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Gibby, A Man After Midnight. A track that is,

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and I don't say this lightly, arguably the single

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most recognizable piece of synthesizer pop ever

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recorded. It has to be. It's iconic. And look,

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on the surface, this is the ultimate party track.

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It's late 70s disco. It's super high energy.

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It's got that glittery production that makes

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you want to find a mirror ball. For sure. It's

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pure dance floor fuel. But we have a massive

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stack of research here today. Production notes,

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technical logs, old chart archives. And the more

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I dug into it, the more I realized this song

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is, well, it's a Trojan horse. That is a fascinating

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way to frame it. You think you're getting a party.

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Right. But you're actually getting something

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much, much darker and way more complex. Right.

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We're going to find out that this song, which

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was recorded in this frantic rush in 1979, basically

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just to sell concert tickets, somehow morphed

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into what critics are now calling a gothic tale

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of existential loneliness. Which is a complete

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contradiction to the tempo of the track. But

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that tension is exactly why we're still talking

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about it almost 50 years later. It's the secret

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ingredient. And it doesn't stop with the music

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theory or the lyrics. We're going to talk about

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how this song ended up as a technical curiosity

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hidden inside the Linux operating system, which

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I know our tech -savvy listeners will appreciate.

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One of the weirdest and best Easter eggs in software

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history. I still can't believe that was real

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for so long. And how, nearly half a century after

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it was recorded, it managed to hit one billion

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plays on Spotify. So the mission for this deep

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dog is clear. We are looking beyond the disco

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ball. Way beyond. We're going to deconstruct

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the composition, the chaotic release history,

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especially the absolute mess that happened with

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the US and Swedish releases, and its second life

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through Madonna and Cher. We have a lot to cover.

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It's a journey from... Like a Stockholm studio

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to a Chicago baseball field to the server rooms

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of the internet? Let's start with the context.

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Because to understand the urgency of this song,

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you have to understand where ABBA was in 1979.

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It wasn't just business as usual, was it? Not

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at all. Not even close. They were at a major

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tipping point. Set the scene for us. Okay, so

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it's the summer of 1979. ABBA is undeniably massive.

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They've conquered Europe. They've had huge hits

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in Australia. They're a global phenomenon. But

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not so much in America, right? They were big,

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but not like biggies big. That's a key point.

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They had hits, but they weren't the dominant

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force there that they were elsewhere. And they

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were staring down the barrel of a massive undertaking.

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ABBA, the tour. Right. This was going to be a

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huge trek across North America and Europe starting

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in the autumn. We're talking. Big arenas, big

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production. And touring is expensive. The stakes

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are incredibly high. They need to fill seats.

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Incredibly high. And there's a rule in the music

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industry, especially back then. You do not go

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on a major tour without a fresh product. You

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need a hook. Something to get people to the record

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store and then to the ticket booth. Exactly.

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You can't just play the old hits. You need something

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that says, we are relevant right now. So they

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needed a single, a blockbuster. They needed a

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hit. And not just for the tour, they also had

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a compilation album coming out, Greatest Hits

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Vol 2. They needed a lead single to anchor that

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whole package. Okay, so the pressure's on from

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two different directions. Yes, but the timeline

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was just brutal. The recording for Gimme Gimme

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Gimme didn't even start until August 1979. Wait,

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wait, wait. The tour was in the fall, so they're

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in the studio in August, just a month or two

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before. Yes. They were cutting this track just

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weeks before they had to be rehearsing choreography,

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sound checks, packing crates. It was a rush job

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in every sense of the word. Usually when you

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rush art, it suffers. You know, you get sloppy

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production or half -baked lyrics. You'd think

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so. But in this case, the pressure seemed to

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crystallize something really special. Where did

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the inspiration even come from? Because this

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doesn't sound like Dancing Queen. It doesn't

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sound like Fernando. It's a different animal.

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It is. And that's because Benny Anderson and

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Bernal Veas, the songwriters and, you know, the

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masterminds behind the ABBA sound, were listening

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to the radio. Okay. Specifically, they were listening

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to American radio. And they heard Donna Summer.

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The queen of disco. And specifically, her track,

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Hot Stuff. Oh, interesting. Okay, now that you

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say it, I can totally hear the connection. Hot

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Stuff isn't just flucky disco. It has that driving,

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almost... rock disco fusion. It's got some grit

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to it. It's undeniable. Benny and Bjorn heard

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Hot Stuff and it sparked a realization. They

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realized that the sound of disco was shifting.

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It was getting harder, more electronic, a bit

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more aggressive. It wasn't about lush strings

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and grand pianos anymore. It was about the beat,

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the synth, and the attitude. They took direct

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inspiration from that track's riffs, its melody,

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and really the overall sentiment. It's kind of

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a funny parallel when you think about it, isn't

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it? You have Donna Summer singing about needing

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hot stuff, and then you have ABA's protagonist

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yearning for a man after midnight. It is the

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same raw energy, that desperate need for connection,

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just translated through two very different cultural

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lenses. Right. Donna Summer's version is gritty,

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American, street smart. Yeah, it feels like it's

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happening out in the club. Exactly. ABA's version

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is... We'll get to the lyrics. But it's more

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internal. It's more neurotic, almost. It's happening

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inside someone's lonely apartment. A very Scandinavian

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take on the same impulse. So they realized that

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to be relevant in the 1979 market, especially

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that North American market they were trying to

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crack with this tool, they needed that modern,

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harder -edged sound. Right. But here is where

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the research stack threw me a massive curveball.

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That wasn't the original plan. No. Gimme, gimme,

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gimme. almost didn't happen. What do you mean?

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There was another song, a song that was fully

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written, fully arranged, and was this close to

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being the single instead. What was it? It was

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called Rubber Ball Man. Rubber Ball Man. Rubber

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Ball Man. I have to be honest, that does not

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have the same ring to it. Not at all. It sounds

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like a novelty track. Or maybe something from

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a children's show. Well, it was a completely

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different vibe. Rubber Ball Man featured what

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we might call the classic ABBA arrangement. Okay,

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so what does that sound like? You know the sound

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Agnetha and Annie Fred singing lead together

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in those tight perfect harmonies, heavy use of

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classical strings, layered acoustic guitars,

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maybe a glockenspiel in there somewhere for good

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measure. It was much more traditional ABA. So

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closer to something like... Chiquitito or Fernando.

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Exactly. A bit more uptempo, but orchestrationally,

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it was looking backward to their previous hits.

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In fact, they were so confident in this song

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that they actually performed it during their

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rehearsals for the 1979 tour. So it was a real

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contender. Oh, yeah. At that point, they were

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calling it Under My Son. So it was a Finnish

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song with a proper title that they were actively

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practicing. So they're in the studio. They're

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rehearsing Rubber Ball Man thinking. This is

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the one. This is the big single. What changed

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their minds? What was the pivot? I think they

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just looked at the charts. They listened to Hot

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Stuff again. And the group collectively felt

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a disconnect. They had a moment of brutal honesty

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with themselves. They realized Rubber Ball Man

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felt like 1976 and they were about to step into

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1980. They felt that gimme, gimme, gimme with

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that electronic disco forward, slightly colder

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sound was simply a better strategic choice for

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the moment. So Rubber Ball Man got benched. It

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was relegated to being nothing more than a demo.

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It was the sacrifice. It was the song that was

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left behind so that gimme, gimme, gimme could

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live. Wow. That is a brutal industry decision.

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We have a perfectly good song, a potential hit,

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but it's not now enough. It's cold, but looking

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back, it was probably the right call. I mean,

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a rubber ball man might have been nice, but gimme,

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gimme, gimme is an absolute force of nature.

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It really is. And a huge part of that force,

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this is where we need to get a little technical

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for a moment, comes from the sound design. We

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mentioned that hook earlier. The synthesizer.

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That opening melody line. Yes. And it wasn't

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just a keyboard. It was played on a very specific

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instrument, an ARP Odyssey synthesizer. Okay,

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for the gearheads listening and for those of

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us who just like cool sounds, why does this specific

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instrument matter here? Why the ARP Odyssey and

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not, say, a mini Moog, which was huge at the

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time? The ARP Odyssey was a very specific beast.

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It was duophonic, which is a fancy way of saying

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it could play two notes at once, which allowed

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for some interesting textures. Okay. But its

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real character came from its filter. It had a

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sharp, biting, almost aggressive quality. It

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wasn't warm and fat like the Moog sounds that

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dominated. early 70s. So less Pink Floyd, more

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something else. Exactly. The Moog was smooth

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like butter. The ARP Odyssey cut like a knife.

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It sounded almost brittle, but in a way that

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commanded your absolute attention. It does sound

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metallic. Yeah. Like steel being struck. Precisely.

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And by choosing to lead with that sharp, biting

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synth sound, ABBA was making a very deliberate

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statement. This was a dive into electro pop textures.

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This wasn't the wall of sound acoustic guitar

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and piano layering of Waterloo. This was colder.

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It was sharper. It was the sound of the future.

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It definitely stands out in your catalog. It

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feels mechanical, but in a really compelling

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way, like a machine that's trying to feel something.

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That's a brilliant segue because that tension,

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that exact tension between the mechanical sound

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and the very human emotion is the absolute core

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of this track. You have this upbeat, driving,

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relentless electronic disco production. It makes

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your body want to move. But then you actually

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listen to what Agnetha Felskog is singing. And

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most people don't, right? I think most people

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just shout the chorus of the karaoke bar. Gimme,

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gimme, gimme. And they don't pay any attention

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to the verses. They totally miss it. But when

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you actually read the lyric sheet. Yikes. It

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is dark. It is remarkably dark. Agnetha is playing

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the role of a narrator, a woman who is completely,

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utterly alone in her apartment. She isn't at

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the club. She isn't having fun. She's painting

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a picture of absolute crushing isolation. There's

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that opening imagery, half past 12. Oh. She's

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looking out the window, looking at the gloomy

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night. It feels so claustrophobic from the very

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first line. And she contrasts her own existence

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with the happy endings of movie stars. That line

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always gets me. Movie stars. It's like she's

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acutely aware that her life isn't following the

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script it's supposed to. Exactly. She views her

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own loneliness as this forbidding darkness. It's

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not just, I'm bored tonight, I wish I had a date.

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It's an existential crisis set to a disco beat.

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It really is. The source material we have includes

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some really interesting critical interpretations

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on this, which I think nail it. Yeah, that Financial

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Times piece was fantastic. They didn't pull any

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punches at all. The Financial Times described

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the song as a masterpiece of Scandinavian frankness.

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Scandinavian frankness. I love that phrase. It

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sounds so serious and profound. It implies a

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refusal to sugarcoat the sadness, you know. They

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called it a gothic tale of alienation and sexual

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frustration. Which is spot on. It's not a love

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song. It's a song about pure desperation. And

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The Emery Wheel had a similar take. They called

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it an unapologetic dive into electropop that

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depicts an emotional unraveling. Emotional unraveling.

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That is heavy, but it's accurate. It is. The

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woman in the song is unraveling. She's staring

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at the shadows on the wall and talking to the

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TV. And I think that tension between the glittering,

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eerie melancholy, as the critics put it, and

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that propulsive beat is exactly why the song

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has endured. it captures a very specific very

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modern feeling being alone in a crowd or dancing

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to forget your problems it's the sad banger genre

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before that was even a term it's the blueprint

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for it and speaking of endurance and different

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interpretations the sources also mentioned that

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the song eventually gained this huge status as

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a gay anthem yes the times noted this specifically

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Which makes perfect sense when you think about

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it. It really does. If you look at those themes,

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that deep longing, the search for connection,

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the liberated disco beat, the idea of the night

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as a place of both possibility and danger, it

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resonates so deeply. It's about the hunt for

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connection in a world that can often feel cold

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and isolating. And it's about finding sanctuary

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on the dance floor when your real life feels

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empty or you're not accepted. It's a hymn for

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the lonely. So we have this masterpiece of Scandinavian

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frankness, a technical marvel on the ARP Odyssey.

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A lyrical gut punch. You'd think the record label

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would just put it out, it goes to number one,

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and everyone is happy. You would think. That

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would be the simple, logical story. But that

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is not what happened. Not by a long shot. Not

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at all. The release history of the song is a

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logistical nightmare. It's actually a classic

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case study in how fragmented and, frankly, weird

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the music industry was in 1979. Let's break this

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down, because today a song drops on Spotify.

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And it's the same file, the same version everywhere

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in the world instantly. Right. But in 1979, physical

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distribution meant local decisions. Regional

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managers had power. Labels in different countries

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could do their own thing. OK, so let's start

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with the United States. ABBA always had a bit

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of a harder time cracking the U .S. market compared

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to Europe. They did. They were viewed more as

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a Europop novelty by some of the more rock -focused

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critics there, rather than the serious artists

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they were considered to be in Europe. So with

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this release, the U .S. ladle, Atlantic Records,

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made a very strange, almost hostile decision.

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Hostile is a good word for it. The standard version

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of Gimme Gimme Gimme, the one the rest of the

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world got, the one Benny and Bjorn produced,

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was 4 minutes and 48 seconds long. Okay, nearly

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5 minutes. Pretty standard for a disco 12 -inch.

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Maybe a bit long for AM radio, but nothing crazy.

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But if you bought the single in the United States

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or Canada, you got a version that was only three

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minutes and 36 seconds. That's over a minute

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shorter. That's huge. That's like 25 % of the

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song. What did they cut? Did they just speed

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it up? No, they took a hatchet to it. They just

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chopped out huge sections. They removed the first

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half of the opening instrumental. So that slow

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building tension, gone. Gone. They cut out the

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first four of the eight bars of the instrumental

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bridge between the second and final chorus, and

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then they just faded the song out early. That

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sounds jarring. Sounds like vandalism. Yeah.

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Did ABA approve that? The sources suggest they

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absolutely did not. It's widely believed that

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this edit was done by Atlantic Records completely

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independently of Polar Music, which was ABA's

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primary label in Sweden. Wow. So the U .S. label

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just decided, we know better than the artists.

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And chopped up the master tape. Essentially,

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yes. It's actually noted as a very rare instance.

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It marked the only time Atlantic ever commercially

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released an edited version of an ABBA single

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while they held the U .S. rights. So it was a

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one -off butchering. A one -off. And to this

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day, that specific Atlantic edit has never appeared

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on any commercial CD or streaming service issued

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by Polar or Universal. It's like an artifact

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of bad decision -making. They've buried it. So

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they chop up the song to make it more radio -friendly.

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Yeah. Does it work? Has it become a huge U .S.

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chart hit? No, it doesn't chart at all. And that

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brings us to the disco demolition effect. Oh,

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right. 1979 in the U .S. This is such crucial

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context. We have to remember the cultural climate.

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July 12th, 1979, Pomaski Park in Chicago. Disco

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demolition night. Where a local shock jock got

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thousands of people to bring disco records to

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a baseball game so they could blow them up. They

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literally blew up a giant crate of disco records

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in center field between games of a doubleheader.

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It was a riot. It was a visceral, angry backlash

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against disco music. Driven by rock fans, but

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with undeniable racial and homophobic undertones.

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It was ugly. It was incredibly ugly. And by the

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time Gimme Gimme Gimme was ready for its U .S.

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release in October of 79, just a few months later,

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the word disco was poison in the U .S. music

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industry. Radio programmers were running scared.

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So they just weren't touching anything that sounded

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like it came from a nightclub. Basically. And

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Atlantic Records panicked. They actually went

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as far as to cancel the full commercial release

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in the United States. You're kidding. No. They

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had already pressed up promotional copies for

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radio stations, which are now collector's items

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worth a decent amount of money. But they pulled

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the plug on the main rollout to the public. They

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presumed the unpopularity of disco would make

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the single a complete flop. That is wild. They

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have the global smash hit on their hands, a song

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that fits perfectly with the major tour they're

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about to do across North America. And they just

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don't release it because they're afraid of the

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anti -disco movement. Meanwhile, in Europe, it

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was hitting number one in Belgium, Finland, France,

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Ireland, Switzerland. An absolute monster hit

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everywhere else. Everywhere but the U .S. But

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wait, you mentioned earlier that the release

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was also weird in Sweden. That's their home turf.

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That's where they live. Surely they released

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it there. You would think so. It's the most logical

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place to release it. But this is the Swedish

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paradox. Polar Music, their own label run by

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their own manager, never released Gimme Gimme

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Gimme as a single in Sweden. What? Why on earth

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not? Did they hate money? I don't understand

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that at all. Seems they wanted to drive sales

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of the album, Greatest Hits Vol. 2. The song

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was included on that album, which was released

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in Sweden. Their logic was, if you want the new

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song, you have to buy the whole LP. But people

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love singles. Yeah. Teenagers have pocket money

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for a 45, not a full priced album. Exactly. And

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Swedish fans were desperate for the single. They

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wanted that 45 RPM disc with the picture sleeve.

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So Swedish record stores had to resort to importing

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copies from the United Kingdom. So they were

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buying the British version on Epic Records and

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shipping it to Stockholm. Yes. They were importing

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their own country's biggest musical export back

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into the country. It's absurd. And did people

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buy it? Oh yeah. The demand was so high that

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sales of these imported UK singles were sufficient

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to push the song to number 16 on the Swedish

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sales chart. That is incredible. A band charting

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in their own country with an imported version

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of their own song because their label wouldn't

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sell it to them. It just shows you how powerful

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the demand for this track was. It overcame the

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US cancellation. It overcame the Swedish non

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-release. The people just wanted the song no

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matter what. And clearly they still want it.

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Because the afterlife of this song is almost

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as big, if not bigger, than the original release.

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I want to talk about the samples, because there

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is one that just looms so large over modern pop

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history. You're definitely referring to Madonna.

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2005. Hung up. Yes. From the album Confessions

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on a Dance Floor. This was a massive, massive

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moment in pop culture. And to understand why,

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you have to understand Benny and Bjorn's philosophy

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on sampling. Which is basically, don't touch

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our stuff. Ever. Essentially, yes. They were

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notoriously protective of their catalog. They

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almost never grant permission for sampling. Before

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Madonna, they had only officially cleared a sample

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once. For the Fugees in 1996 for the song Rumble

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in the Jungle. That's it. In like 30 years of

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people asking. That's it. So for Madonna to get

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this cleared, she couldn't just have her lawyers

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call their lawyers. That wasn't going to work.

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She had to work for it. How did she pull it off?

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What was the secret? The story goes that Madonna

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actually sent a personal letter to Stockholm,

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a begging letter, as it's often described in

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the press. Wow. She sent an emissary with the

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letter and a copy of the track pleading her case.

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I just love the image of Madonna, who is arguably

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the queen of top, sitting down to write a humble

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letter asking ABBA for permission. It shows the

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immense respect involved. She reportedly talked

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about how much she loved their music, what it

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meant to her and what she wanted to do with the

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sample. And it worked. They said yes. They said

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yes. They granted the permission and Hung Up

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became this gigantic worldwide hit built entirely

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around that ARP Odyssey hook we talked about

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earlier. It's funny. For a certain generation,

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for millennials, Hung Up is the song. They might

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not even realize it's ABBA originally. That's

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the power of a good sample. It bridges generations.

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And Benny and Bjorn praised it. They said it

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was a wonderful track, 100 % solid pop music.

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They appreciated that she didn't just lazily

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loop it. She built a whole new incredible song

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that honored the energy of the original. But

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Madonna wasn't the only diva to take a crack

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at it. We have to talk about Cher. Yes. Cher

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released an entire album of ABEA covers called

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Dancing Queen back in 2018. And her version of

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Gimme Gimme Gimme was the lead single from that

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project. Which makes so much sense. Cher and

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ABBA, it feel like a natural fit. Both are icons

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of camp. Both are beloved by the gay community.

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But it's also a lot of pressure to cover a song

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that iconic. So how did she approach it? Did

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she try to copy the original arrangement? No,

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she worked with producer Mark Taylor, the man

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who helped create her massive hit Believe. Okay,

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so he knows his way around iconic, auto -tuned

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pop vocals? He certainly does. And the critical

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reception was really interesting. Rolling Stone

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noted that while she didn't strip the song, of

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its core catchiness, she completely transformed

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it. They said she turned it from FM radio pop

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into a club banger. Pulsating with every beat,

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I think was the quote I saw. That's the one.

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It was a modernization. It was designed to fit

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on 2018 dance floors, whereas the original was

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fit for 1979 discos. It was heavier, something

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very glossy. And we absolutely can't talk about

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covers without mentioning Mamma Mia. Of course.

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The 2008 film. a cultural reset in its own way

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amanda seyfried sings it in the movie but there's

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a distinct difference between the movie version

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and the soundtrack version isn't there a significant

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one yeah if you watch the film the song is used

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primarily as a narrative device it's mostly instrumental

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the characters only sing the chorus to drive

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the plot forward as sophie is trying to figure

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out who her dad is so it functions more like

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it does in the stageway exactly but if you buy

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the soundtrack album you get a complete solo

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performance by amanda seyfried the full song

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start to finish It's just interesting how versatile

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the song is. It works as a movie plot device.

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It works as a thumping club banger for Cher.

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It works as a sample for Madonna. And it worked

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as a teen pop introduction for the 18s. Oh man,

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the 18s. 1999, I had completely forgotten about

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them. That was a huge moment for reintroducing

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ABBA to the millennial generation. It was their

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third single, hit the top 10 in Sweden. And the

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video, do you remember the video? I have these

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vague, hazy memories of a bowling alley. Yeah.

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And maybe a crystal ball. Yes, you got it. It

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featured the band entering a warehouse, finding

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a crystal ball and seeing an alternate world

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inside it where they perform. And yes, there

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were scenes in a bowling alley. It was peak late

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90s aesthetic. I love that. proves that the melody

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is completely bulletproof. You can dress it up

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in 90s bubblegum pop, 2018 club beats, or 1979

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disco, and the core of it still works perfectly.

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And it keeps going. You have even more modern

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interpretations. Ava Max subtly sampled it in

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her song Torn in 2019. She said she wanted to

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add a little disco flair. Right. And Reina Sawayama

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used the chorus melody for the main guitar riff

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in her song This Hell in 2022. Which required

00:23:54.299 --> 00:23:56.460
approval because the similarities were so strong

00:23:56.460 --> 00:23:58.519
you couldn't ignore them. It just shows that

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the musical DNA of gimme, gimme, givy is still

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being woven into pop music today. It is a foundational

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text of pop. It really is everywhere. Yeah. But.

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And this is where we get into the deep dive exclusive

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territory. It wasn't just in music. It was also

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in our computers. For real. This is one of my

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favorite details in the entire research stack.

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The Linux Unix Easter egg. It's just so nerdy

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and brilliant. Okay, you need to break this down

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for us. I use a computer every day, but I don't

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know what a man command is. Okay, so in Unix

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and Linux operating systems, which, you know,

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run most of the internet servers in the world,

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there is a command line utility called man. M

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-A -N. Just man. Just man. It stands for manual.

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If you are a developer and you don't know how

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a command works, you type man and then the command

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name, and it shows you the manual page. It's

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the help file. Okay. So it's standard stuff for

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developers. Very standard, very boring, very

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functional. But for a long time, there was a

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hidden trigger in the code of the man DB package.

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A developer who was undoubtedly a huge ABBA fan

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added a few extra lines of code. What did it

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do? If you ran the man command without any arguments,

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so you just typed man and hit enter at a very

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specific time. What time? At exactly 00 .30 system

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time. Half past 12 in the morning. Referencing

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the lyric half past. Half past 12. Half past

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12 and I'm watching the late show. Oh my God,

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that's amazing. Exactly. If you did that at precisely

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0 .30, the system would print the words gimme,

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gimme, gimme on the screen. That is hilarious.

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So you're a coder, you're working late, it's

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half past midnight, you make a typo and your

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computer starts quoting ABA at you. It was a

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harmless little joke, a perfect Easter egg. But

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as with all things in tech, it eventually caused

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a problem. What happened? Why isn't it still

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there? It was removed in 2017. Specifically...

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Inversion ManDB 2 .8 .0. Did the copyright lawyers

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get involved? Or did someone just lose their

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sense of humor? No, it was actually a very practical,

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functional issue. It was annoying other developers

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because it broke their automated software tests.

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Explain that. How does a little bit of text...

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break a big test well imagine you have a script

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that runs automatically every night on your server

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to check if everything is healthy it runs the

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man command to check something and it expects

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the computer to reply with a specific message

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like what manual page do you want or a particular

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error code right a predictable response exactly

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but if that automated test happened to run at

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exactly zero zero point three the computer would

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instead reply gimme gimme gimme and the script

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says I have no idea what that means, and it crashes.

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Precisely. The test fails, an alarm goes off

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somewhere, and a developer gets woken up, all

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because of an ABBA joke. So efficiency killed

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the disco star. They had to patch it out to ensure

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system stability. That is one of the best stories

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I have ever heard. It serves as a testament to

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how deeply ingrained this song is in our culture.

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It's not just on the radio. It was literally

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in the source code of the infrastructure of the

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modern internet. It's everywhere. And speaking

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of the Internet, we have to mention the huge

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milestone that just happened. The million mark.

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According to our sources on July 20, 2025, gimme,

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gimme, gimme, officially surpassed one billion

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streams on Spotify. One billion. That is just

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a staggering number to even think about. And

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it was the second ABBA song to do so, right behind

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Dancing Queen. That is just mind -blowing. This

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is a song from 1979. It's racking up numbers

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that modern pop stars, your Taylor Swifts, your

00:27:28.259 --> 00:27:30.779
Weekends, would kill for on their new releases.

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It absolutely proves its longevity with Gen Z

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and younger listeners. It's not just a nostalgia

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track for people who were alive in the 70s. It

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is a living, breathing hit. People are putting

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it on their workout playlists, their party playlists.

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their Sad Vibes playlist right now, today. And

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the band or their label is keeping it fresh technically,

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too. We saw in the notes that in October 2024,

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it got a massive technical upgrade. It did. For

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the release of the box set, The Singles, the

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first 50 years, the song received a full Dolby

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Atmos remix. What does that actually mean for

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the listener? What does it sound like? Dolby

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Atmos is basically spatial audio. Instead of

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just stereo left and right speakers, it places

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the different sounds in a 3D space around you.

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You can hear that ARP synth coming from above

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you, the bass line from behind you. It's incredibly

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immersive. And it was only the third ABBA track

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to get that special treatment. Correct. After

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Dancing Queen and The Winner Takes It All, it

00:28:24.200 --> 00:28:26.480
shows that they view this song as one of their

00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:30.119
absolute crown jewels. They also released a 4K

00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.579
video remaster at the same time, so you can see

00:28:32.579 --> 00:28:36.480
those glorious 1979 costumes in pristine high

00:28:36.480 --> 00:28:38.880
definition. Okay, so let's try to pull all of

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this together. We've been on quite a journey.

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We really have. We started with a band under

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immense pressure. It's 1979, they desperately

00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:48.920
need a hit for a tour, and they dump a perfectly

00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:51.319
good song, Rubber Ball Man, to gamble on a new,

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colder, more electronic sound. A sound directly

00:28:54.119 --> 00:28:56.180
inspired by Donna Summer and American Disco.

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Right. They go into the studio and record this

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track that is technically brilliant, using that

00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.079
ARP audition to create that cold, piercing hook.

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But lyrically, it's a gothic nightmare of loneliness

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and frustration. A fundamental contradiction

00:29:09.119 --> 00:29:12.039
that defines the entire song. Then the release

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is a complete disaster. The U .S. label chops

00:29:14.829 --> 00:29:17.230
it up and then cancels release because of disco

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riots. Their own Swedish label refuses to sell

00:29:20.829 --> 00:29:24.329
it as a single to force album sales. But the

00:29:24.329 --> 00:29:26.630
fans find a way to buy it anyway. It survived

00:29:26.630 --> 00:29:29.269
the death of disco. It survived the music industry

00:29:29.269 --> 00:29:32.589
politics of its own labels. And now, almost 50

00:29:32.589 --> 00:29:36.190
years later, it's a billion stream giant. It's

00:29:36.190 --> 00:29:38.970
been sampled by Madonna, covered by Cher, hidden

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in Linux code, and remastered in 3D audio for

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a new generation. It really highlights that contrast

00:29:44.740 --> 00:29:46.500
we talked about right at the beginning. It has

00:29:46.500 --> 00:29:49.740
this huge party reputation. But at its core,

00:29:49.920 --> 00:29:53.339
it is a desperate, lonely song. And maybe that

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is the secret sauce, the reason it's lasted.

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How so? What do you mean by that? Because that's

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the human experience, isn't it? You're at the

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party, you're dancing, the lights are flashing,

00:30:01.839 --> 00:30:03.680
but there's still that little voice inside asking,

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is there anyone out there for me? You can dance

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to it or you can cry to it. Or, more often than

00:30:08.160 --> 00:30:09.900
not, you can do both at the same time. Usually

00:30:09.900 --> 00:30:12.180
both, let's be honest. It's the ultimate happy

00:30:12.180 --> 00:30:15.180
-sad song. It really is. It's a gothic tale in

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a disco dress. That's beautifully put. I'm stealing

00:30:18.079 --> 00:30:20.759
that. Before we sign off, I just want to leave

00:30:20.759 --> 00:30:23.369
the listener with one final thought. We talked

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about the Atlantic edit, that chopped up version

00:30:26.069 --> 00:30:29.650
that exists only on old vinyl and the Linux Easter

00:30:29.650 --> 00:30:32.549
egg that got deleted from the code. It makes

00:30:32.549 --> 00:30:34.670
you realize that once art is released into the

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world, it takes on a life of its own. It absolutely

00:30:37.869 --> 00:30:40.549
does. It gets cut up by executives. It gets hidden

00:30:40.549 --> 00:30:43.250
by programmers. It gets sampled and reinterpreted

00:30:43.250 --> 00:30:46.309
by new artists. The creators lose control of

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it in a way. It belongs to the world. Exactly.

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And it makes me wonder. What other classic hits

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have these hidden lives that we just don't know

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about? What other song has a secret line of code

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hidden in an operating system or a weird butchered

00:31:00.519 --> 00:31:02.980
edit that only exists in one country that we

00:31:02.980 --> 00:31:04.940
just haven't found yet? That is a question worth

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exploring. There must be more stories like this

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out there. Something to think about the next

00:31:08.539 --> 00:31:10.240
time you hear that synthesizer hook kick in.

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Thanks for listening to this Deem Dive. See you

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next time.
