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I want you to picture a scenario for a second.

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You're standing in a living room. It's a Saturday

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afternoon. The sunlight is streaming through

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these massive floor -to -ceiling windows. The

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floors are this warm, honey -colored oak. It

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just gleams. There is a smell of fresh cookies.

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Because, of course, the real estate agent baked

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them 20 minutes ago. You are looking at the crown

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molding. You're mentally placing your sofa against

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the far wall, and you are thinking, this is it.

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This is the one. That is the honeymoon phase

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of the transaction. And honestly, it is probably

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the most dangerous moment in your entire financial

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life. It really is. Because while I'm looking

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at the way the light hits the floor, I'm not

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looking at the water stain on the ceiling that's

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been painted over three times. Right. I'm not

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thinking about the fact that the furnace in the

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basement is literally rusting from the inside

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out. I am operating entirely on vibes. Which

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is a terrifying paradox when you think about

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it. We live in the information age. If you were

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going to buy a new laptop, a purchase of maybe,

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what, $1 ,000? Yeah, maybe $1 ,500 if you're

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getting a good one. You would spend weeks researching.

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You'd watch unboxing videos. You'd read the technical

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specs. You'd compare processor speeds. You would

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know everything about that machine before you

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swiped your card. Oh, absolutely. I'll read 300

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reviews for a toaster. A $50 toaster. Exactly.

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But when it comes to the single most expensive

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purchase of a lifetime, buying a home, signing

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away 30 years of future earnings, most people

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rely on a visual walkthrough that lasts maybe

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20 minutes. If that. They rely on the aesthetic

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appeal. And that gap between aesthetic appeal

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and structural reality is where financial ruin

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hides. And the only thing standing between you

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and that potential money pit is this one kind

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of administrative sounding document, the home

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inspection. Yeah. Now, looking at the stack of

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research you sent over for today's deep dive,

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I have to admit, I always thought of home inspection

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as a bit of a formality, like getting your car

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inspected for emissions. It's just a sticker

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you need to get the keys. That's what most people

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think. But the more I read, the more I realized

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this isn't just a checklist. It is a full blown

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forensic investigation. That is the perfect way

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to frame it. It is building forensics. It is

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a crime scene investigation. But the victim is

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your future bank account. Oh. That's a good way

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to put it. And the mission of today's deep dive

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is to shatter that checklist mentality. We are

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going to tear this industry apart. We aren't

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just talking about checking if the toilets flush

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or the lights turn on. We are diving into the

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legal landscape, which is shocking. It's a mess

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in places. We're going to talk about the massive

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difference between condition and value and how

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this industry is a regulatory wild west in some

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places and a bureaucratic maze in others. And

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we're going to travel the globe, too, because

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how we inspect a home changes entirely depending

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on where you are. We'll look at the wooden frames

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of California, the damp brick of the UK and the

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concrete high rises of Mumbai. And perhaps most

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surprisingly, we're going to talk about the things

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an inspector is legally forbidden from telling

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you. That part blew my mind. Yeah, the liability

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aspect is huge. So let's unpack this. We are

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working from a comprehensive overview of inspection

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standards across North America, the UK, and India.

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Let's start with the core identity. What actually

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is a home inspection? Because I think a lot of

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us have a misconception here. The best place

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to start is the definition itself, which usually

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appears in the standards of practice for any

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major association. A home inspection is defined

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as a limited non -invasive examination of the

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condition of a home. Limited and non -invasive.

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That already sounds like legal speak for I'm

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not breaking anything. Precisely. And this is

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the first point of friction for many buyers.

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They watch home renovation shows where the contractor

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takes a sledgehammer to a wall and says, oh,

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look, dry rot. Right. Let's just open this up

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and see what's behind here. A home inspector

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cannot do that. They cannot tear down drywall

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to check the wiring behind it. They cannot peel

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up the carpet to check the subfloor. They cannot

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dig up the foundation to check the footings.

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So they are handcuffed. In a way, they have to

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assess the health of the patient without doing

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surgery. That's a great analogy. It's a physical

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exam, not an autopsy. It's about what is visible

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and accessible on the day of the inspection.

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Okay, accessible is a key word there. A huge

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one. If the seller has stacked boxes wall -to

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-wall in the basement, blocking a foundation

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wall, the inspector can't see that wall. They'll

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note in the report, view obstructed. And that's

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it. So there's a giant crack behind those boxes.

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That's on you, the buyer, if you don't ask the

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seller to move them. It's on you. And there is

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another key nuance here that listeners need to

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really internalize. It is a snapshot. The inspector

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is describing the condition of the home at the

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specific time of the inspection. So let's play

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that out. If the inspector comes on a Tuesday.

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And the furnace is working fine. He turns it

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on. It heats up. It shuts off. Everything's good.

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Yep. He'll write in the report, furnace was functional

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at time of inspection. Then I buy the house on

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Friday. And on Saturday, the furnace blows up.

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Is that the inspector's fault? Almost certainly

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not. And that is a hard pill for buyers to swallow.

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But inspectors do not guarantee future efficiency.

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And they certainly don't guarantee life expectancy.

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They're not giving you a warranty. They're reporting

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on what is visible right now. They aren't profits.

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They are observers. A component can be working

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perfectly on Tuesday and suffer a catastrophic

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mechanical failure on Saturday. The circuit board

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on that furnace could have been on its last legs,

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but it worked for the 10 minutes he tested it.

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It's about managing expectations. You aren't

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buying a warranty. You're buying a report on

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the current state of affairs. Correct. And this

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brings us to what I call the triangulation of

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professionals, which is where I see the most

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confusion. You have a team of people involved

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in a house sale. You've got the real estate agent,

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the appraiser, and the inspector. In the movies,

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they all seem to walk through the house together

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having a chat. Right. But in reality, they have

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completely different motivations. Right. And

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different clients, really. Totally different

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clients. And different jobs. Let's break that

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down. I feel like people confuse the appraiser

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and the inspector the most. I've definitely heard

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friends say, oh, the bank is sending their appraiser

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out, so they'll tell me if the roof is bad. That

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is a dangerous, dangerous assumption. Let's distinguish

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them. An appraiser determines value. Their client

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is usually the bank, the lender. So they work

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for the money people. Yes. Their job is to answer

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one question for the lender. Is this pile of

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bricks and wood worth the $500 ,000 you are about

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to lend on it? So the appraiser is there to protect.

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the bank's investment. They want to make sure

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they aren't lending half a million dollars on

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a shack that's worth 10 bucks. Exactly. They

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are looking at comparables. What did the neighbor's

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house sell for? They're looking at square footage,

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lot size, bedroom count. It's an economic analysis.

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What if the roof is bad? Well, if the roof is

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caved in, will they notice? Yes, of course, because

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that affects the market value today. Right. But

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if the roof has a slow leak into the attic insulation

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that isn't visible from the driveway. If it has

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maybe five years of life left instead of 20,

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the appraiser likely won't see it. And honestly,

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they might not care as long as the market value

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holds up against the comps. OK, so the appraiser

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is the economist. They are looking at the numbers,

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the spreadsheets. Right. The inspector, on the

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other hand, determines condition. They are the

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diagnostician. Their client is you, the buyer.

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They are there to tell you what is broken, what

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is unsafe and what is nearing the end of its

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life. An appraiser says this house is worth five

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hundred thousand dollars. An inspector says,

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this house needs $50 ,000 of work because the

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plumbing is shot and the electrical panel is

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a fire hazard. A huge difference. One is about

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the market. The other is about the mechanics.

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Exactly. And then there's a third category that

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confuses people, particularly in the United States,

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the building inspector. Yes. This one always

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trips me up. I'm waiting on the building inspector.

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That sounds official. It sounds like the most

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important one. It is official, but it's a different

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lane entirely. If you hear building inspector,

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that usually refers to a government or municipal

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employee. Their job is code compliance. Code

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compliance. So that's the person who comes by

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when you're building a deck to make sure you

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aren't violating city laws. Yes. They are checking

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against a very specific book, the building code

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for your town, for that year. Did you use the

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right number of nails? Is the railing 42 inches

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high? Is the staircase too narrow? So does a

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private home inspector check for code? Generally,

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no. And this is a critical distinction. A private

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home inspection is not a code compliance check.

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Why not? If something is against code, isn't

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it by definition a problem? It is a problem,

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but codes change constantly. A house built in

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1950 was built to the 1950 code. It would fail

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a thousand points of the 2024 code. Oh, OK. An

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inspector isn't there to tell you everything

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that's not up to modern standards. They're there

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to tell you if it's functional and safe. But

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wait, if my stairs are unsafe, won't they tell

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me? They will tell you it's a safety hazard.

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They might say these stairs are steep and the

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tread is shallow, which is a fall risk. But they

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won't cite you for violating municipal code section

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12B. They aren't the police. They are consultants.

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So we have the economist, the appraiser. We have

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the police, the municipal inspector. And then

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we have the consultant or the private investigator,

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which is the home inspector. That helps clear

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the board. It does. And the consultant's goal,

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the private inspector, is building diagnostics.

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I love that term. It's about identifying problems.

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But here's the catch. They identify the problem,

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but they don't always identify the solution.

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Walk me through that. If they find a problem,

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shouldn't they tell me how to fix it and how

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much it'll cost? That's what every buyer wants,

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right? A neat little list of problems with a

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price tag next to each one. Yes. But they can't.

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In fact, they're often discouraged from doing

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so because they aren't specialists in every trade

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and they aren't contractors. And Spectre might

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say, there is elevated moisture reading in the

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basement wall. That is the diagnosis. Okay. But

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is that moisture coming from a crack in the foundation?

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Is it coming from a high water table? Is it coming

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from a broken gutter outside that's dumping water

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right next to the house? And the fix for each

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of those is totally different. Wildly different.

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And does it require a $200 patch or a $20 ,000

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French drain system? The inspector often stops

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at the, what, there is moisture? They then refer

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you to a specialist for the how and how much.

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a foundation specialist, a plumber, a landscaper.

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So the inspector is the general practitioner.

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They listen to your chest and say, your heart

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sounds weird, but they don't perform the surgery.

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They send you to the cardiologist. That is a

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perfect analogy. The inspector is the GP. They

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know a little bit about everything. Plumbing,

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electrical, structural, roofing, HVAC. But they

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aren't the master electrician or the structural

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engineer. Their job is to triage the house and

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tell you which specialists you need to call.

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Which makes sense. You can't be an expert in

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everything. Okay. But that leads to the question,

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who are these people? If they have to know a

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little bit about everything, they must have some

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serious training, right? This can't just be a

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job you decide to do one day. You would hope

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so. You would absolutely hope so. That tone suggests

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otherwise. Well, let's talk about the regulatory

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landscape in North America. This section of the

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research was fascinating because I think most

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people assume, That to be a home inspector, you

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need a license. You need a badge. You need to

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pass a board exam. Right. My hairstylist needs

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a license. My driver needs a license. Surely

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the person telling me if my house is going to

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collapse needs a license. In the U .S. and Canada,

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it is a bit of a regulatory patchwork. We often

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call it the licensing wild west. How wild are

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we talking? Are we talking like tumbleweeds and

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shootouts at high noon? Pretty close. So currently

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more than 30 U .S. states regulate the industry.

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That's the good news. Okay. That means in those

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states, places like Texas, New York, Illinois,

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you need to pass exams, take strictly regulated

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training courses, carry insurance, and do continuing

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education every year to keep your license. Okay.

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That sounds reasonable. That covers a lot of

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the population. But that leaves... Almost 20

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states. It leaves a significant number of states

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where the profession is completely unregulated.

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States like California, Colorado, Georgia. Big

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states. Wait, California has no state license

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for home inspectors. The place with earthquakes

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and wildfires. No statewide license. Now, there

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are professional associations that inspectors

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can join which have their own standards. But

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the state government does not license them. Define

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completely unregulated for me in one of those

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states. I mean that in those states, you could

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literally wake up tomorrow, decide you are tired

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of podcasting, go to a print shop, print a business

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card that says host speaker, home inspector,

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buy a flashlight at the hardware store and go

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inspect someone's half million dollar asset.

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Without any training, without proving I know

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the difference between a neutral wire and a hot

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wire. Theoretically, yes. In unregulated states,

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there is no state board checking your credentials.

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Now, the market might filter you out eventually

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if you're terrible or you might get sued into

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oblivion. Right. Eventually. But there is no

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government barrier to entry. That is absolutely

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terrifying. It's like having a driver's license

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requirement in one state, but crossing the border

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and being allowed to drive a semi truck with

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zero training just because you own a truck. It

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puts a massive burden on the consumer. If you

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are buying a home in an unregulated state, you

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cannot just assume the inspector is qualified

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because they have a website and a clipboard.

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So what do you do? How do you vet them? You have

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to ask. Are you a member of a national association?

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Are you certified by ASHI or Internatia? Those

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are the two big ones in the U .S. You ask to

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see a sample report. You ask how long they've

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been doing it. you have to become the regulator

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yourself in a way. It really emphasizes that

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caveat emptor, buyer beware. But even if you

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have a qualified inspector, the whole process

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is high stress. The inspection is usually contingency,

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right? Can you explain what that means? Yes,

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the valid contract contingency. In most real

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estate contracts, the deal isn't firm until the

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inspection contingency is waived or satisfied.

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So the inspector is basically the gatekeeper.

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The deal can't close until they say it's OK,

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or rather until the buyer reads the report and

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says it's OK. Exactly. The buyer typically has

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a window, say, 7 to 10 days to conduct the inspection.

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After they get the report, they can do one of

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three things. One, they can accept the house

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as is and waive the contingency. Two, they can

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try to negotiate with the seller for repairs

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or a price reduction based on the findings. Or

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three. Or three, if the problems are too big

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or the seller won't negotiate, they can walk

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away from the deal and get their deposit back.

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The contingency is their escape hatch. And that

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power, the power to kill the deal creates a massive

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amount of tension. A huge amount. Think about

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the players again. The seller wants to move.

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The buyer wants the house. And the real estate

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agent, well, they want the commission. And they

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don't get paid if the deal falls apart. Correct.

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So imagine you are a real estate agent. You have

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a client buying a house. You need an inspector.

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Are you going to recommend the inspector who

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is known as the deal killer? No. The guy who

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spends five hours at the house, finds every single

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loose screw, and writes a 100 -page report that

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scares the first -time buyer away from a perfectly

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good house with minor issues. Probably not. You

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want the inspector who is... reasonable, who

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doesn't make a big fuss, who can manage the client's

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expectations. Yeah, precisely. And that creates

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a massive conflict of interest. If inspectors

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rely on agents for referrals, they have a financial

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incentive to go easy on the house, to minimize

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the problem so the deal closes and the agent

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keeps sending them work. It's the fox guarding

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the hen house. Or rather, the fox inviting his

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friend, the wolf, to come check on the chickens.

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And this isn't just a theoretical worry. It became

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such a problem that it actually shaped legislation.

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We have to talk about the Massachusetts case

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study. Yes. May 2001. I remember reading this

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in the notes. This is a huge deal. Massachusetts

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becomes the first state to basically say enough

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is enough. They recognize that the referral loop

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was anti -consumer. They saw that agents, specifically

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listing agents who represent the seller, had

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a vested interest in a favorable report. They

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amended their real estate licensing law. Listing

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agents in Massachusetts are now prohibited by

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law from directly referring a specific home inspector

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to a buyer. So even if I beg my agent, please

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just tell me who to hire. I don't know anyone.

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They can't give me a name. They cannot say, call

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Bob. Bob is great. They cannot even give you

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a short list of their top three favorites. Wow.

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So what do they do? How does a buyer find anyone?

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They have to hand you the complete list of all

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licensed inspectors in the state. Or they have

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to direct you to the state's official website

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where that registry is published. Yeah, that

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is hardcore. It's basically, here is the phone

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book. Good luck. It feels like it puts the buyer

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in a tough spot, but I see the logic. It forces

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the buyer to do their own due diligence, to make

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their own calls, read their own reviews. It breaks

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the link between the agent's commission and the

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inspector's paycheck. I can see how that would

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be annoying for an agent who legitimately knows

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a great thorough inspector, but I also see how

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it protects the buyer from a soft inspection.

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It's a blunt instrument, but effective. But regulation

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isn't just about consumer protection in a financial

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sense. Sometimes it's about life and death. You

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mentioned a California law earlier, Senate Bill

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721. Yes, the balcony bill. This feels like a

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shift from transactional inspection to maintenance

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inspection. That is the perfect distinction.

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Most inspections happen when a house is sold.

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It's a one -time event tied to a transaction.

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But SB 721, passed in September 2018, targets

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something specific. Exterior elevated elements.

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Exterior elevated elements. That sounds fancy.

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We're talking about decks and balconies. Decks,

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balconies, walkways, stairways. Anything wood

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-framed that is sticking out of a multifamily

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building and is more than six feet off the ground.

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And there's a tragic context to this, right?

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Yeah. I seem to remember a balcony collapse in

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Berkeley. Exactly. The 2015 Berkeley balcony

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collapse. Six students died. Several more were

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horribly injured. It was horrific. And the cause

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was dry rot. So the wood just failed. The wood

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had rotted from the inside out because of poor

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waterproofing during construction, but it looked

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fine from the outside until the moment it snapped.

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God, that is a nightmare. You're just at a party

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and the floor disappears. So SB 721 mandates

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that buildings with these structures must undergo

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inspections by licensed professionals? often

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structural engineers, every nine years for condos.

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And a similar law, AB 721, requires it every

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six years for apartment buildings. And this isn't

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about selling the building. This is just an ongoing

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SASE check. Correct. It acknowledges that buildings

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are organic in a way. Wood rots, fasteners rust.

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You can't just build it and forget it. You have

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to maintain it. And if the owners don't comply,

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they face penalties. It shifts the mindset from

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market value. to structural integrity as an ongoing

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responsibility. It does. It's a huge step. Let's

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look north now, because if the U .S. is a patchwork

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of strict laws like Massachusetts and unregulated

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wild zones like California, Canada sounds like,

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well, a bit of a polite brawl. Polite brawl is

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a very diplomatic way to put it. Canada historically

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followed the U .S. model unregulated in many

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places, with voluntary associations trying to

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set standards. But they made a significant deviation

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in 2016. What happened in 2016? The development

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of the CSAA 770 -16 standard. That is a very

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catchy name. It rolls right off the tongue, doesn't

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it? But it's important. It was a unifying standard

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developed by the Canadian Standards Association.

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The goal was to bring everyone onto the same

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page, a single rigorous standard for what a home

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inspection should be across the entire country.

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And was that successful? Is everyone singing

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Kumbaya now? Not exactly. The standard is there,

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but adoption and regulation are provincial matters.

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And implementation is where it gets messy, especially

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in Ontario. Ontario is the biggest market. By

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far. Estimated 1 ,500 inspectors back in 2013,

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probably more now. And the situation there is

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complicated. Source material mentioned a battle

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of the associations. Yes, I saw that. It really

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is. You have the OAHI, the Ontario Association

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of Home Inspectors, and then you have the Ontario

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ACHI, the Ontario Association of Certified Home

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Inspectors. Okay, those names are way too similar.

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That is designed to be confusing for the consumer.

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It's like the People's Front of Judea versus

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the Judean People's Front. And they both claim

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to be the largest or the most authoritative.

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But the real fight is over a title, RHI or Registered

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Home Inspector. It sounds fancy. Who gets to

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use it? Well, this is where it gets legally weird.

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Under a private act from 1994, the OAHI has the

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legal right to award that designation in Ontario.

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It's protected by law. So OAHI owns the term

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in Ontario. Yes. But here is the twist. The Canadian

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Association, CAHPI, owns the federal copyright

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to the term. So one group has the provincial

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law and the other group has the federal copyright.

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How does that even work? Essentially, it's a

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mess. And amid all this infighting over acronyms

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and logos, the consumer is left scratching their

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head wondering, who is actually qualified to

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check my roof? Is there a solution on the horizon?

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Or are they just going to fight forever? There

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is legislation in the works. The Home Inspection

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Act 2017 has received royal assent in Ontario.

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This would license inspectors directly through

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the government and dissolve that old 1994 act.

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It would theoretically end the association wars.

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But I sense a but. But as with many things in

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government, it is awaiting specific regulations

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to actually become law. It's been in this state

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of limbo for years. So for now, it is still a

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bit of a maze. It seems like no matter where

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you go. Figuring out who is qualified to inspect

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your house is half the battle. It is. And if

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we hop across the pond to the United Kingdom,

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we see a totally different approach. We see what

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happens when the government tries to intervene

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too aggressively and, frankly, gets it wrong.

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This is the Home Information Pact story, right?

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The HIP. The HIP. This was a massive government

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initiative introduced in the mid -2000s. The

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idea was actually... quite noble. They wanted

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to speed up the home buying process, which in

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the UK can be painfully slow. Okay, so what was

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the plan? They mandated that sellers had to provide

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a home condition report up front as part of this

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pack before the house even went on the market.

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That actually makes sense to me. Why wait for

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a buyer to find the problems? Put all the cards

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on the table from day one. In theory, yes. The

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government anticipated they would need 7 ,500

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to 8 ,000 inspectors to churn out 2 million of

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these packs a year. It was pitched as a new industry,

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a massive jobs program. Become a home inspector.

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Secure your future. Exactly. Thousands of people

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paid for training. They went to courses. They

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got certified. They were ready to go. But there

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were two massive problems. What were they? One,

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the global financial market crashed in 2008 and

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the UK housing market went with it. Suddenly,

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no one was moving. Bad timing. And two, the public

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hated the HIPs. They were seen as expensive,

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bureaucratic red tape that the seller had to

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pay for whether their house sold or not. So what

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happened? The political winds shifted. The coalition

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government came into power and canceled the HIPs

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in 2010, suspended them with immediate effect.

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Ouch. So what happened to all those thousands

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of newly trained inspectors? The role of home

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inspector, as defined by that program, became

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redundant overnight. Thousands of people who

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had retrained for this career, who had invested

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time and money, were left with a qualification

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that was... essentially worthless. That is brutal.

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A government created industry wiped out by the

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same government. So who inspects homes in the

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UK now? Did they just stop inspecting? No, it

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went back to the established experts. In the

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UK, inspections or surveys, as they're called,

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are done by chartered surveyors. These are members

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of the RICS, the Royal Institution of Chartered

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Surveyors. That sounds much more posh than home

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inspector. It is more formalized. To become a

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chartered surveyor requires a degree and significant

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professional experience and a rigorous exam process.

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And the source notes that a full building survey

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from a chartered surveyor is generally more detailed

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than what we see in North America. They go deep.

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So they went from a failed bureaucratic experiment

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back to a highly professionalized, rigorous standard.

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It highlights that you cannot just manufacture

00:24:38.079 --> 00:24:41.509
an industry overnight. It needs deep roots. Speaking

00:24:41.509 --> 00:24:44.130
of deep roots or maybe the lack of them, let's

00:24:44.130 --> 00:24:46.750
talk about India. The source describes the home

00:24:46.750 --> 00:24:49.609
inspection industry there as being in its infancy.

00:24:50.109 --> 00:24:51.869
This is the most fascinating part of the global

00:24:51.869 --> 00:24:54.009
comparison for me, because when I think of India,

00:24:54.089 --> 00:24:56.210
specifically cities like Mumbai or Bangalore,

00:24:56.289 --> 00:24:58.789
I think of massive construction, high rises going

00:24:58.789 --> 00:25:02.109
up overnight, entire townships being built. You

00:25:02.109 --> 00:25:03.970
would think inspection would be huge there. The

00:25:03.970 --> 00:25:06.410
scale of construction is staggering, but the

00:25:06.410 --> 00:25:08.250
consumer protection infrastructure is still catching

00:25:08.250 --> 00:25:11.069
up. In India, the concept of a third party inspection

00:25:11.069 --> 00:25:13.990
is very, very new. Why is that? Is it just that

00:25:13.990 --> 00:25:16.150
people don't know it exists? Awareness is a big

00:25:16.150 --> 00:25:18.630
part of it, but there is also a massive cultural

00:25:18.630 --> 00:25:21.589
and power barrier. We have to look at the relationship

00:25:21.589 --> 00:25:24.319
between the buyer and the builder. Okay. What's

00:25:24.319 --> 00:25:26.880
that dynamic like? In the U .S. or Canada, the

00:25:26.880 --> 00:25:29.460
buyer is usually king. There are lots of houses

00:25:29.460 --> 00:25:32.319
to choose from. In a hot Indian market, especially

00:25:32.319 --> 00:25:34.720
for new construction, the builder holds all the

00:25:34.720 --> 00:25:37.460
cards. Imagine you are buying an apartment in

00:25:37.460 --> 00:25:40.279
a high rise. You have put down your life savings.

00:25:40.680 --> 00:25:43.779
You are one of a thousand people trying to get

00:25:43.779 --> 00:25:46.319
a unit. Right. It's a seller's market on steroids.

00:25:46.460 --> 00:25:49.700
Exactly. So if you demand an inspection, if you

00:25:49.700 --> 00:25:52.240
antagonize the builder by pointing out that the

00:25:52.240 --> 00:25:54.609
walls are crooked or the finish is poor, there

00:25:54.609 --> 00:25:56.849
is a genuine fear that the builder might just

00:25:56.849 --> 00:25:59.309
cancel your allocation. Seriously, they can just

00:25:59.309 --> 00:26:01.670
do that. They might say, you are being difficult.

00:26:01.869 --> 00:26:04.109
I have 10 other people with cash who won't ask

00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:06.769
questions. Here's your deposit back. Next. That

00:26:06.769 --> 00:26:09.029
is wild. So people are skipping the inspection

00:26:09.029 --> 00:26:11.529
out of fear of losing the deal, even on the biggest

00:26:11.529 --> 00:26:13.910
purchase of their lives. In many cases, yes.

00:26:14.369 --> 00:26:17.289
They accept the unit as is because they are desperate

00:26:17.289 --> 00:26:19.690
to secure the asset. But that is starting to

00:26:19.690 --> 00:26:23.779
change. A new law called URIRA. the real estate

00:26:23.779 --> 00:26:26.059
regulatory authority, has come into effect in

00:26:26.059 --> 00:26:28.819
recent years. Okay, ERE, what does it do? It

00:26:28.819 --> 00:26:32.099
is a landmark piece of legislation in India intended

00:26:32.099 --> 00:26:34.920
to clean up the real estate sector. It holds

00:26:34.920 --> 00:26:37.660
builders accountable for delays and for the quality

00:26:37.660 --> 00:26:39.400
of construction they promise. So it gives the

00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:41.359
consumer some power back. It gives the consumer

00:26:41.359 --> 00:26:44.400
teeth. It has given more potency to inspection

00:26:44.400 --> 00:26:47.000
companies. Now, a buyer can point to RERA laws

00:26:47.000 --> 00:26:49.880
and say, I have a right to quality. It is empowering

00:26:49.880 --> 00:26:52.279
the consumer to ask for that inspection. And

00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:53.539
the buildings themselves are different, right?

00:26:53.579 --> 00:26:55.460
We aren't talking about checking for wood rot

00:26:55.460 --> 00:26:58.200
in a Mumbai high -rise. Correct. Indian homes

00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:01.400
are predominantly kiln -baked brick or reinforced

00:27:01.400 --> 00:27:03.839
concrete. You don't have the same issues with

00:27:03.839 --> 00:27:05.680
termites eating the structural frame like you

00:27:05.680 --> 00:27:07.460
do in California. But you have different beasts.

00:27:07.799 --> 00:27:09.880
Like what? What are they looking for? Concrete

00:27:09.880 --> 00:27:12.619
curing issues. If concrete isn't cured properly,

00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:15.700
if it's not kept wet while it hardens, it can

00:27:15.700 --> 00:27:17.759
develop microcracks that compromise its strength

00:27:17.759 --> 00:27:20.279
over time. You have issues with the quality of

00:27:20.279 --> 00:27:22.579
plastering, with waterproofing in a tropical

00:27:22.579 --> 00:27:26.279
monsoon climate. So the methodology changes completely.

00:27:26.799 --> 00:27:29.779
Completely. They use primarily non -destructive

00:27:29.779 --> 00:27:32.240
testing things like rebound hammers that measure

00:27:32.240 --> 00:27:35.240
surface hardness or ultrasonic pulse velocity

00:27:35.240 --> 00:27:38.799
tests to find voids in the concrete. Although

00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.180
the source mentions that in some cases, based

00:27:41.180 --> 00:27:43.880
on customer requirements, they will perform core

00:27:43.880 --> 00:27:46.759
cutting. Core cutting. That sounds intense. What

00:27:46.759 --> 00:27:49.220
is that? It is. It involves drilling a literal

00:27:49.220 --> 00:27:52.339
cylinder, a core of concrete, out of a column

00:27:52.339 --> 00:27:54.759
or a slab to test its compressive strength in

00:27:54.759 --> 00:27:57.299
a lab. Wow. This is very, very different from

00:27:57.299 --> 00:27:59.380
a U .S. inspector walking around with a flashlight

00:27:59.380 --> 00:28:01.279
and a screwdriver. Yeah, if a U .S. inspector

00:28:01.279 --> 00:28:03.279
started drilling holes in the wall of a suburban

00:28:03.279 --> 00:28:06.140
house, the seller would call the police. Exactly.

00:28:06.319 --> 00:28:08.700
It just shows how the local construction methods

00:28:08.700 --> 00:28:11.500
dictate the inspection protocols. So we've covered

00:28:11.500 --> 00:28:13.660
the who and the where. Let's look at the what.

00:28:14.000 --> 00:28:16.480
Because I looked at the types of inspections

00:28:16.480 --> 00:28:19.059
section of the NOS, and it's like a menu at a

00:28:19.059 --> 00:28:22.470
restaurant. There isn't just one burger. There

00:28:22.470 --> 00:28:24.369
are 10 different kinds of burgers, depending

00:28:24.369 --> 00:28:26.329
on what you're hungry for. That is a good analogy.

00:28:26.450 --> 00:28:29.369
The standard burger is your transactional homebuyer's

00:28:29.369 --> 00:28:31.650
inspection. That is what 90 % of our listeners

00:28:31.650 --> 00:28:34.230
are familiar with. You make an offer, you inspect

00:28:34.230 --> 00:28:37.789
the house, you negotiate repairs. Simple. But

00:28:37.789 --> 00:28:39.710
then you have the pre -listing inspection. That's

00:28:39.710 --> 00:28:42.740
for the seller, right? Yes. Honestly, this is

00:28:42.740 --> 00:28:45.380
a strategic move that more sellers should consider

00:28:45.380 --> 00:28:48.119
using. The seller hires the inspector before

00:28:48.119 --> 00:28:50.319
putting the house on the market. Why spend the

00:28:50.319 --> 00:28:51.880
money, though? Why not just wait for the buyer

00:28:51.880 --> 00:28:54.500
to find the problems? Because surprise is the

00:28:54.500 --> 00:28:57.819
enemy of a deal. Imagine you're selling. The

00:28:57.819 --> 00:29:00.319
buyer's inspection finds a major issue, like

00:29:00.319 --> 00:29:03.039
a bad roof, in the middle of negotiations. The

00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:06.079
buyer panics. They panic. They will ask for a

00:29:06.079 --> 00:29:09.079
massive price reduction, way more than the roof

00:29:09.079 --> 00:29:11.849
actually costs, or they'll walk away. If the

00:29:11.849 --> 00:29:14.089
seller finds it first, they can fix it on their

00:29:14.089 --> 00:29:17.430
own terms with a roofer they choose. Or they

00:29:17.430 --> 00:29:19.390
can price the house accordingly and disclose

00:29:19.390 --> 00:29:22.049
it up front. The house is priced to reflect the

00:29:22.049 --> 00:29:24.329
need for a new roof. Exactly. It removes the

00:29:24.329 --> 00:29:26.769
leverage from the buyer. It controls the narrative.

00:29:27.029 --> 00:29:29.289
Smart. Very smart. Yeah. Then there's the pre

00:29:29.289 --> 00:29:31.390
-delivery inspection. This is specific to new

00:29:31.390 --> 00:29:34.450
builds. Yes, or the PDI. Now, this is one where

00:29:34.450 --> 00:29:36.369
I think people get complacent. They think it's

00:29:36.369 --> 00:29:38.329
a brand new house. No one has ever lived in it.

00:29:38.369 --> 00:29:41.109
Everything must be perfect. That is the new car

00:29:41.109 --> 00:29:44.190
smell fallacy. Do not assume that because a house

00:29:44.190 --> 00:29:47.029
is new, it is perfect. In fact, new builds often

00:29:47.029 --> 00:29:49.569
have what we call teething issues. Like what?

00:29:50.029 --> 00:29:51.609
What kind of mistakes are we talking about? Oh,

00:29:51.609 --> 00:29:54.549
all sorts. I've seen new builds where the vents

00:29:54.549 --> 00:29:56.930
for the bathroom fans were never connected to

00:29:56.930 --> 00:29:59.650
the roof. They were just venting moist air directly

00:29:59.650 --> 00:30:02.069
into the brand new attic, which is a recipe for

00:30:02.069 --> 00:30:04.529
mold. I've seen insulation missing in entire

00:30:04.529 --> 00:30:07.230
sections of the wall. I've seen plumbing that

00:30:07.230 --> 00:30:08.910
leaked the first time the water was turned on.

00:30:09.049 --> 00:30:11.930
I've seen windows installed backwards. Backwards?

00:30:12.190 --> 00:30:14.549
Yep. The weep holes that are supposed to let

00:30:14.549 --> 00:30:17.250
water out were on the inside. Oh, my God. So

00:30:17.250 --> 00:30:19.470
the pre -delivery inspection is your chance to...

00:30:19.470 --> 00:30:21.789
to catch the builder's mistakes before you sign

00:30:21.789 --> 00:30:24.450
off and give them that final check. Yes. And

00:30:24.450 --> 00:30:27.089
typically, the builder is obligated to fix them

00:30:27.089 --> 00:30:29.269
under warranty. But you have to find them first

00:30:29.269 --> 00:30:32.029
and create a formal punch list. Then we get into

00:30:32.029 --> 00:30:34.769
the really heavy stuff. The source mentions disaster

00:30:34.769 --> 00:30:37.390
inspection. This isn't about buying. This is

00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:40.210
about survival. This is a grim but necessary

00:30:40.210 --> 00:30:43.759
part of the industry. This is post -event. Tornadoes,

00:30:43.759 --> 00:30:46.859
floods, hurricanes, wildfires. Inspectors go

00:30:46.859 --> 00:30:49.480
into homes, often working for FEMA or insurance

00:30:49.480 --> 00:30:52.339
companies, to assess damage. I can't imagine

00:30:52.339 --> 00:30:54.500
what that job is like, walking into a house that's

00:30:54.500 --> 00:30:56.539
been flooded with three feet of mud. It's not

00:30:56.539 --> 00:30:58.660
about checking if the outlets are grounded. It's

00:30:58.660 --> 00:31:01.480
about, is the structure compromised? Is it safe

00:31:01.480 --> 00:31:04.000
to enter? What is the dollar value of the loss?

00:31:04.380 --> 00:31:07.960
It is high stress, emotional work, assessing

00:31:07.960 --> 00:31:10.599
habitability. And then there's Section 8 inspection.

00:31:11.069 --> 00:31:13.470
This is specific to the U .S., right? Yes. Section

00:31:13.470 --> 00:31:16.230
8 is a housing subsidy program. The government

00:31:16.230 --> 00:31:18.390
pays a portion of the rent for low -income families

00:31:18.390 --> 00:31:20.829
directly to the landlord. But before they pay,

00:31:21.069 --> 00:31:23.569
they need to ensure the property is fit for habitation.

00:31:24.089 --> 00:31:26.650
So they are checking against a specific standard.

00:31:27.210 --> 00:31:30.670
Yes. HUD's Housing Quality Standards, or HQS,

00:31:30.710 --> 00:31:33.450
they are looking for the basics of human decency

00:31:33.450 --> 00:31:36.599
and safety. Is there heat? Is there hot and cold

00:31:36.599 --> 00:31:39.099
running water? Are there rodent infestations?

00:31:39.099 --> 00:31:41.579
Is there peeling lead paint? Are the windows

00:31:41.579 --> 00:31:44.900
broken? So it's less about is this a good investment

00:31:44.900 --> 00:31:47.940
and more about is this safe for a human to live

00:31:47.940 --> 00:31:50.119
in? Exactly. It establishes a baseline floor

00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:53.160
for housing quality for subsidized housing. Now

00:31:53.160 --> 00:31:55.200
here's one I had never heard of. Immigration

00:31:55.200 --> 00:31:58.619
reports in the UK. Why on earth does a visa applicant

00:31:58.619 --> 00:32:01.500
need a home inspection? This fascinated me, too.

00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:03.940
It connects back to public health laws from decades

00:32:03.940 --> 00:32:06.460
ago. If you are living in the UK and you want

00:32:06.460 --> 00:32:08.440
to bring a spouse or dependent over on a visa,

00:32:08.559 --> 00:32:11.299
the UK Visa and Immigration Authority, the UKVI,

00:32:11.640 --> 00:32:14.660
needs to verify your living situation. They want

00:32:14.660 --> 00:32:16.480
to make sure you aren't stuffing 10 people into

00:32:16.480 --> 00:32:18.859
a one -bedroom flat. Precisely. They require

00:32:18.859 --> 00:32:21.819
a property instruction report to ensure the home

00:32:21.819 --> 00:32:24.339
will not become legally overcrowded under the

00:32:24.339 --> 00:32:27.720
Housing Act of 1985. They calculate room sizes

00:32:27.720 --> 00:32:30.819
and the number of permitted occupants. So the

00:32:30.819 --> 00:32:32.779
inspector is basically certifying, yes, there

00:32:32.779 --> 00:32:35.440
is enough room for this new person to live here

00:32:35.440 --> 00:32:38.619
safely and legally. Yes. It's fascinating how

00:32:38.619 --> 00:32:41.220
home inspection intersects with immigration policy.

00:32:41.599 --> 00:32:44.099
It shows that inspection is about more than real

00:32:44.099 --> 00:32:46.680
estate. It is about standards of living and public

00:32:46.680 --> 00:32:48.599
health. Okay, let's talk about the specialized

00:32:48.599 --> 00:32:51.460
inspections, the add -ons, the ones that go deeper

00:32:51.460 --> 00:32:53.759
than the standard visual check. I keep hearing

00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:55.880
about four -point inspections. What are the four

00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.299
points? This is a term you will hear constantly

00:32:58.299 --> 00:33:00.650
if you are buying an older home. especially in

00:33:00.650 --> 00:33:03.349
Florida or other coastal states. Insurance companies

00:33:03.349 --> 00:33:05.450
drive this. They want to know about the four

00:33:05.450 --> 00:33:08.769
big liability risks. Which are? One, the roof.

00:33:09.009 --> 00:33:12.750
Two, the HVAC, system heating and air conditioning.

00:33:13.089 --> 00:33:17.009
Three, the electrical system. And four, the plumbing.

00:33:17.269 --> 00:33:19.269
Why just those four? Why don't they care about

00:33:19.269 --> 00:33:21.289
the foundation, for instance? Because those are

00:33:21.289 --> 00:33:23.990
the four things that generate claims. A leaky

00:33:23.990 --> 00:33:27.119
roof causes massive water damage. Old plumbing

00:33:27.119 --> 00:33:30.400
bursts and floods the house. Bad wiring causes

00:33:30.400 --> 00:33:34.319
fires. An old HVAC system can leak and cause

00:33:34.319 --> 00:33:36.619
damage. So it's all about risk for the insurer.

00:33:36.910 --> 00:33:39.250
All about their risk. Insurance companies don't

00:33:39.250 --> 00:33:41.130
care if the foundation has a crack that might

00:33:41.130 --> 00:33:43.529
cause the house to settle in 20 years. They care

00:33:43.529 --> 00:33:44.970
if the house is going to burn down tomorrow.

00:33:45.250 --> 00:33:46.869
And what are they looking for specifically in

00:33:46.869 --> 00:33:49.109
those areas? For the roof, they want to know

00:33:49.109 --> 00:33:51.349
the age and condition. For plumbing, they're

00:33:51.349 --> 00:33:53.849
checking for old galvanized pipes or active leaks.

00:33:54.269 --> 00:33:56.549
And for electrical, they are looking for specific

00:33:56.549 --> 00:33:59.230
things like knob and tube wiring or aluminum

00:33:59.230 --> 00:34:01.490
wiring. These are old school wiring methods.

00:34:01.890 --> 00:34:04.349
Yes, technologies from the past that are known

00:34:04.349 --> 00:34:07.490
fire hazards. If a four -point inspection finds

00:34:07.490 --> 00:34:10.030
those, the insurance company might say, we won't

00:34:10.030 --> 00:34:12.489
insure you until you rewire the house. Which

00:34:12.489 --> 00:34:15.670
is a massive, unexpected expense. Good to know.

00:34:16.250 --> 00:34:18.570
Now, let's talk about structural inspection.

00:34:19.050 --> 00:34:20.889
This brings us back to that legal distinction

00:34:20.889 --> 00:34:23.469
we touched on earlier regarding who can say what.

00:34:23.670 --> 00:34:26.989
This is a crucial boundary line. A general home

00:34:26.989 --> 00:34:29.409
inspector can look at a wooden beam in the basement

00:34:29.409 --> 00:34:33.010
and say, that beam is sagging. It has a crack

00:34:33.010 --> 00:34:35.949
running horizontally along the grain. That is

00:34:35.949 --> 00:34:38.869
an observation of condition. Right. I see a crack.

00:34:39.010 --> 00:34:42.429
It is this big and it is here. Correct. But in

00:34:42.429 --> 00:34:44.909
many places, like New York, for example, a general

00:34:44.909 --> 00:34:47.150
inspector cannot legally give a professional

00:34:47.150 --> 00:34:50.110
opinion on structural sufficiency. So they can't

00:34:50.110 --> 00:34:52.210
say that beam is sagging and the house is going

00:34:52.210 --> 00:34:54.710
to collapse. Exactly. They cannot calculate the

00:34:54.710 --> 00:34:57.230
load. They cannot say this beam is overloaded

00:34:57.230 --> 00:35:00.849
and structurally unsound. Only a licensed professional

00:35:00.849 --> 00:35:04.610
engineer. A PE or a registered architect can

00:35:04.610 --> 00:35:07.130
render that opinion. They are the ones with the

00:35:07.130 --> 00:35:09.949
license and the insurance to do the math. So

00:35:09.949 --> 00:35:11.849
if your inspector sees a scary crack, what do

00:35:11.849 --> 00:35:13.829
they do? They put it in the report, often in

00:35:13.829 --> 00:35:16.750
big, bold letters. Structural movement and deflection

00:35:16.750 --> 00:35:19.690
observed in main support beam. Recommend further

00:35:19.690 --> 00:35:22.050
evaluation by a licensed structural engineer

00:35:22.050 --> 00:35:24.710
prior to closing. They pass the baton. They stay

00:35:24.710 --> 00:35:27.090
in their lane to avoid liability and, frankly,

00:35:27.190 --> 00:35:29.489
practicing engineering without a license. And

00:35:29.489 --> 00:35:32.909
you, the buyer. have to be the one to hire that

00:35:32.909 --> 00:35:36.170
engineer and pay them to come out. Yes. And honestly,

00:35:36.369 --> 00:35:38.469
you want them to stay in their lane. You don't

00:35:38.469 --> 00:35:40.849
want someone guessing about gravity. That leads

00:35:40.849 --> 00:35:43.510
us perfectly into the final section. The fine

00:35:43.510 --> 00:35:46.650
print. The limitations and exclusions. Because

00:35:46.650 --> 00:35:49.190
for all this talk of forensics, there are huge

00:35:49.190 --> 00:35:52.289
blind spots in a standard inspection. And this

00:35:52.289 --> 00:35:54.269
is where I feel like buyers get the most upset

00:35:54.269 --> 00:35:57.369
later. Why didn't you find this? Huge blind spots.

00:35:57.530 --> 00:36:00.440
And the general rule is... If it exceeds the

00:36:00.440 --> 00:36:03.639
standards of practice, it is excluded. Let's

00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.280
run through the big exclusions. Trees, that big,

00:36:06.320 --> 00:36:08.400
beautiful oak tree in the front yard. Not included.

00:36:08.559 --> 00:36:11.639
An inspector is not an arborist. They aren't

00:36:11.639 --> 00:36:14.340
trained to look at that massive oak tree overhanging

00:36:14.340 --> 00:36:15.940
the roof and tell you if it's rotting from the

00:36:15.940 --> 00:36:17.780
inside and ready to fall on your house in the

00:36:17.780 --> 00:36:19.579
next storm. So if you're worried about the trees,

00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.980
hire a certified arborist. Goals and spas. Usually

00:36:22.980 --> 00:36:25.260
excluded from the general inspection unless you

00:36:25.260 --> 00:36:28.780
pay extra for a specific pool inspection. A pool

00:36:28.780 --> 00:36:32.219
is a complex mechanical system. Pumps, filters,

00:36:32.539 --> 00:36:34.940
heaters, chemical balance, plus the structural

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shell. Some inspectors have extra certification

00:36:37.599 --> 00:36:39.519
for it, but don't assume it's included. Though

00:36:39.519 --> 00:36:41.980
the notes mention that the Canadian standard,

00:36:42.219 --> 00:36:46.219
the CSA A770 -16, is unique because it actually

00:36:46.219 --> 00:36:49.159
mandates swimming pool safety inspections. It

00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:51.840
does, which is a progressive step. It focuses

00:36:51.840 --> 00:36:54.940
on safety features like fences and gates. But

00:36:54.940 --> 00:36:57.559
in the U .S., standard contracts usually exclude

00:36:57.559 --> 00:36:59.539
the pool system unless you specifically add it

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on. Now, here's the one that I think is the most

00:37:01.239 --> 00:37:04.659
controversial. Thermal imaging. Ah, the infrared

00:37:04.659 --> 00:37:07.000
debate. I mean, the technology exists. You could

00:37:07.000 --> 00:37:09.000
buy a thermal camera that clips onto your phone.

00:37:09.199 --> 00:37:11.960
It can see heat loss. It can see cold spots from

00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:14.000
moisture behind a wall that looks perfectly dry

00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:17.159
to the naked eye. Why isn't every inspector using

00:37:17.159 --> 00:37:19.849
this on every inspection? Many are starting to

00:37:19.849 --> 00:37:22.590
offer it as an ancillary service, but it is considered

00:37:22.590 --> 00:37:25.630
exceeding the standard scope. And here's the

00:37:25.630 --> 00:37:28.969
debate. Liability. How does seeing more create

00:37:28.969 --> 00:37:31.570
liability? Shouldn't it reduce liability? You'd

00:37:31.570 --> 00:37:34.570
think so. But imagine you are an inspector. You

00:37:34.570 --> 00:37:36.710
use a thermal camera on the living room and find

00:37:36.710 --> 00:37:39.610
nothing. Great. But you forget to scan the small

00:37:39.610 --> 00:37:42.949
closet under the stairs. Six months later, a

00:37:42.949 --> 00:37:45.800
pipe... bursts in that closet wall right the

00:37:45.800 --> 00:37:48.559
buyer sues you saying you had the camera you

00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:50.480
were looking for leaks why didn't you find it

00:37:50.480 --> 00:37:52.860
the argument becomes that by using the advanced

00:37:52.860 --> 00:37:55.659
tool you set a higher standard for yourself ah

00:37:55.659 --> 00:37:59.099
if you use it you better be perfect with it exactly

00:37:59.099 --> 00:38:02.659
once you start looking inside the walls you open

00:38:02.659 --> 00:38:06.179
a pandora's box of expectations Many inspectors

00:38:06.179 --> 00:38:08.179
argue that unless they are charging for a full

00:38:08.179 --> 00:38:10.639
thermal audit and doing it methodically room

00:38:10.639 --> 00:38:13.420
by room, it's safer for them to stick to the

00:38:13.420 --> 00:38:15.519
visual standard. I can't see behind walls, so

00:38:15.519 --> 00:38:17.659
don't blame me for what's behind walls. Precisely.

00:38:17.659 --> 00:38:20.480
And that brings us to the hidden stuff. The biggest

00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:23.260
nightmare for buyers. The underground sewer line.

00:38:23.519 --> 00:38:25.320
Oh, God. I have a friend who bought a house.

00:38:25.860 --> 00:38:28.780
Charming 1920s bungalow. Yeah. Week one, they

00:38:28.780 --> 00:38:30.940
flush the toilet and sewage backs up into the

00:38:30.940 --> 00:38:34.420
bathtub. The classic horror story. It turned

00:38:34.420 --> 00:38:36.920
out that tree roots had grown completely through

00:38:36.920 --> 00:38:40.159
the old clay pipes in the front yard. It cost

00:38:40.159 --> 00:38:43.219
them $10 ,000 to dig up the yard and replace

00:38:43.219 --> 00:38:46.079
the line. They were furious at the inspector.

00:38:46.360 --> 00:38:49.599
Why didn't you check the sewer? And the inspector's

00:38:49.599 --> 00:38:52.079
defense was likely valid and written right in

00:38:52.079 --> 00:38:54.860
his contract. I inspected the plumbing inside

00:38:54.860 --> 00:38:57.880
the house. The fixtures drained when I tested

00:38:57.880 --> 00:39:01.039
them. The sewer line is buried six feet underground.

00:39:01.519 --> 00:39:04.280
I cannot see through dirt. So how do you avoid

00:39:04.280 --> 00:39:07.280
that? How do you check for that? You hire a specialist

00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:09.619
to do a sewer scope. They run a camera snake

00:39:09.619 --> 00:39:11.840
down the line all the way to the street. It costs

00:39:11.840 --> 00:39:15.159
maybe $200, $300 extra. And they can see the

00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:17.239
cracks, the roots, the blockages. They give you

00:39:17.239 --> 00:39:19.409
a video of the whole trip. If you're buying an

00:39:19.409 --> 00:39:21.710
old house with mature trees in the yard, it is

00:39:21.710 --> 00:39:24.329
the best money you will ever spend. But a standard

00:39:24.329 --> 00:39:26.250
home inspector does not do it as part of the

00:39:26.250 --> 00:39:28.909
base package. It's an ancillary inspection. That

00:39:28.909 --> 00:39:30.809
is a pro tip right there. Always get the sewer

00:39:30.809 --> 00:39:33.469
scope on an old house. Always. And finally, we

00:39:33.469 --> 00:39:36.590
have to address the no guarantee. The disclaimer

00:39:36.590 --> 00:39:38.389
at the bottom of the report, usually in all caps,

00:39:38.590 --> 00:39:41.909
this report is not a warranty. It is the harshest

00:39:41.909 --> 00:39:44.989
reality. The inspector is not an insurer. If

00:39:44.989 --> 00:39:46.710
they missed something that was visible and that

00:39:46.710 --> 00:39:48.630
they should have seen, you might have a claim

00:39:48.630 --> 00:39:50.690
against their errors and omissions insurance.

00:39:51.090 --> 00:39:53.590
But those policies often limit the payout to

00:39:53.590 --> 00:39:56.150
just the cost of the inspection itself. Often,

00:39:56.250 --> 00:39:59.449
yes. And if something simply breaks the day after

00:39:59.449 --> 00:40:02.090
you move in, the water heater that worked perfectly

00:40:02.090 --> 00:40:04.309
on inspection day just gives up the ghost. That

00:40:04.309 --> 00:40:07.030
is the joy of homeownership. You own the house

00:40:07.030 --> 00:40:10.039
and you own its problems. Man. We have covered

00:40:10.039 --> 00:40:12.260
a lot of ground. We traveled from the specific

00:40:12.260 --> 00:40:14.900
anti -corruption laws of Massachusetts to the

00:40:14.900 --> 00:40:17.860
concrete high -rises of Mumbai. We looked at

00:40:17.860 --> 00:40:20.360
the bureaucratic mess of Ontario licensing and

00:40:20.360 --> 00:40:22.820
the very practical reason why insurance companies

00:40:22.820 --> 00:40:25.440
hate knob -and -tube wiring. It is a massive

00:40:25.440 --> 00:40:27.840
landscape, and it's a lot more complex than just

00:40:27.840 --> 00:40:30.539
kicking the tires. If I have to summarize this

00:40:30.539 --> 00:40:32.599
for the listener who is maybe driving to an open

00:40:32.599 --> 00:40:34.880
house right now, what's the big takeaway? The

00:40:34.880 --> 00:40:37.480
key takeaway is that a home inspection is a tool

00:40:37.480 --> 00:40:40.420
for informed decision making, not a crystal ball

00:40:40.420 --> 00:40:43.760
and not a warranty. It is a visual snapshot in

00:40:43.760 --> 00:40:48.000
time. It reduces risk significantly, but it does

00:40:48.000 --> 00:40:50.460
not eliminate it. And it's not a cast fail exam,

00:40:50.539 --> 00:40:51.960
right? I think people wait for the inspector

00:40:51.960 --> 00:40:54.639
to say the house passed. Exactly. The house doesn't

00:40:54.639 --> 00:40:57.519
pass or fail. The house just is. The inspection

00:40:57.519 --> 00:41:00.239
tells you the condition. You decide if it passes

00:41:00.239 --> 00:41:02.579
or fails based on your budget, your skills, and

00:41:02.579 --> 00:41:04.920
your risk tolerance. Right. A house with a bad

00:41:04.920 --> 00:41:07.940
roof might be a fail for a first -time buyer

00:41:07.940 --> 00:41:10.400
with no savings, but it might be a pass for a

00:41:10.400 --> 00:41:12.260
contractor who knows he can replace it himself

00:41:12.260 --> 00:41:18.920
and wants to fix it. Jim, becoming cheaper. Everyone

00:41:18.920 --> 00:41:21.760
has a smartphone. We talked about AI. How long

00:41:21.760 --> 00:41:24.300
until the definition of non -invasive changes?

00:41:24.719 --> 00:41:27.219
That is the big question, isn't it? As technology

00:41:27.219 --> 00:41:29.780
evolves, will the legal standard of care shift?

00:41:30.059 --> 00:41:32.119
If an inspector could have seen the leak with

00:41:32.119 --> 00:41:34.739
a $200 attachment on their phone, will the courts

00:41:34.739 --> 00:41:37.300
eventually say they should have? Will non -invasive

00:41:37.300 --> 00:41:39.440
come to mean anything short of a sledgehammer?

00:41:39.639 --> 00:41:42.079
And in markets like India, where the builder

00:41:42.079 --> 00:41:45.239
has held the power for so long, will the consumer,

00:41:45.500 --> 00:41:48.280
armed with more information and more legal rights,

00:41:48.539 --> 00:41:51.320
eventually force a fundamental shift in transparency?

00:41:51.929 --> 00:41:54.949
I believe so. Information is power. The more

00:41:54.949 --> 00:41:57.429
buyers know, the less they will fear and the

00:41:57.429 --> 00:42:00.389
more they will demand. The days of buying a multi

00:42:00.389 --> 00:42:03.389
-million rupee flat on vibes alone are numbered.

00:42:03.610 --> 00:42:05.289
Well, next time you walk into an open house,

00:42:05.409 --> 00:42:07.269
maybe don't just look at the granite countertops

00:42:07.269 --> 00:42:09.090
and the backsplash. Look at the corners of the

00:42:09.090 --> 00:42:11.690
ceiling. Look at the grating outside. And remember,

00:42:11.869 --> 00:42:14.510
what you see is only half the story. Indeed.

00:42:14.809 --> 00:42:17.889
Look closer. That's it for this Deep Dive. Thanks

00:42:17.889 --> 00:42:18.289
for listening.
