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Welcome back to the deep dive. Glad to be back.

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So I want to start today with a picture. It's

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an image that's been. Sort of burned into our

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collective consciousness for, what, 70, 80 years

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now? I think I know where you're going with this.

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The American dream. The white picket fence. It's

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always the white picket fence. It's always the

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fence. The perfectly manicured lawn. Maybe there's

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a dog, you know, chasing a ball. And behind it,

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that two -story house with a garage. When we

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think about homeownership, that's where our minds

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go. To the physical thing. Exactly. We focus

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on the asset. We obsess over. You know, the countertops,

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the square footage, the neighborhood, the curb

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appeal. We're looking at the house. Which makes

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sense. That's the tangible thing. That's where

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you're going to live. Of course. But today, I

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want to do a pivot. We are going to look right

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past all of that. Past the bricks, the mortar,

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the shingles on the roof. Okay. We're going to

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look at the invisible engine sitting right underneath

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that house. Ah, the machinery. The machinery.

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We're going to talk about a specific, highly

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engineered financial tool that sounds, and I

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mean this. incredibly boring. It might be the

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most boring sounding phrase in finance. It really

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might be. But it's actually the invention that

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made the modern middle class possible. We are

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talking about the fixed rate mortgage. The FRM.

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It really is the engine room of the whole U .S.

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economy in a lot of ways. Right. And you're right.

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It sounds so dry, fixed rate mortgage. It just

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sounds like stacks of paperwork. But when you

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actually start to peel back the layers, it is

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an incredibly complex and frankly. A really weird

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anomaly in the global system. And that's our

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mission for this deep dive. We're going to unpack

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exactly how this machine works. We're going to

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look at the sort of counterintuitive financial

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science that suggests you probably shouldn't

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even have one, even though most of us do. The

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academic view. We're also going to jump in a

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time machine, go back to the 1930s and see why

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it was invented in the first place. And spoiler

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alert, it was basically to stop society from

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collapsing. A slight exaggeration, but not by

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much. And then we're going to take a tour around

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the world to see why pretty much every other

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country thinks the American system is completely

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bonkers. And we can't forget the math. We have

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to talk about the math. Oh, we have to. We're

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going to break down the actual formula that spits

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out your exact monthly payment down to the penny.

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It's surprisingly elegant, that formula. It really

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is. So let's just dive right in. Let's define

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the beast. You're in an elevator. What's the,

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you know, the quick pitch for a fixed rate mortgage?

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Fundamental level, a fixed rate mortgage, or

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FRM, is a loan where the interest rate on the

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note remains exactly the same for the entire

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life of that loan. It sounds so simple when you

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say it like that. It sounds simple, but the implications

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of that one rule are just massive. How so? Because

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that rate is locked. It means two other really

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important things also become completely rigid.

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Okay. First, your monthly payment amount is fixed.

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Your first payment and your 360th payment, if

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it's a 30 -year loan, are identical. Down to

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the cent. Down to the cent. And second, the duration

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is fixed. You know the exact month and year 30

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years from now. when that final payment is made,

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and you are free. I was trying to think of an

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analogy for this, and the best I came up with

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was, it's like a subscription service. A subscription

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to a house. I like that. It's like a very, very

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expensive Netflix subscription, but with two

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huge differences. One, it definitely cancels

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itself after a set number of years. And two,

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and this is the really crucial part, the price

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never, ever goes up. That's the price lock. Yeah.

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And that is a perfect way to put it. No matter

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what's happening in the world, you know, wars,

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pandemics, economic booms, busts, whatever, your

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price is your price. It's set in stone. And that

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stability feels amazing for us, the borrowers.

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But my assumption is always, you know, when I

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deal with a bank, the bank is the one who's winning.

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You usually have the edge, yeah. They've got

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the marble floors. I've got the debt. But the

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research suggests that with a fixed rate structure,

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there's actually a scenario where the borrower

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can come out way ahead of the bank. Absolutely.

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The fixed rate mortgage is, at its heart, a bet.

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And it's one of the few financial products where

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the little guy has this huge structural advantage

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if, and it's a big if, certain economic conditions

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play out. OK, so that brings us to this idea

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of the inflation hedge. Exactly. Let's unpack

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that, because usually we hear the word inflation

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and we get nervous. We think of groceries getting

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more expensive, gas prices going through the

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roof. Right. It feels like a tax on everything.

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So how does that possibly help me when I'm carrying

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hundreds of thousands of dollars of mortgage

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debt? Well, you have to separate your day to

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day expenses from the nature of your debt. When

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you sign that mortgage, you are locking in. A

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nominal payment. Nominal meaning just the dollar

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amount? The number on the paper. Let's use a

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round number. Say you buy a house today. Your

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payment is $2 ,000 a month. Okay. A big chunk

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of change. Right. And right now, today, that

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$2 ,000 represents a certain amount of your purchasing

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power. Maybe it's, I don't know, 30 or 40 % of

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your monthly income. It hurts to write that check.

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Definitely hurts. Okay. Now let's imagine a scenario

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where inflation runs really hot. for, say, a

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decade, the price of everything doubles. So a

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loaf of bread is eight bucks, gallon of gas is

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seven. Right. But, and this is key, in an inflationary

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world, wages generally rise to eventually match

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those prices. So let's just assume your salary

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has also doubled over those 10 years. So I'm

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making twice as much money, but everything costs

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twice as much. So at the grocery store, I don't

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feel any richer. Exactly. You feel like you're

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just treading water when you're buying eggs.

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But now look at your mortgage payment. Oh, it's

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still $2 ,000. It's still $2 ,000. So if my income

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doubled, that $2 ,000 check is now only half

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as painful to write as it used to be. Precisely.

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In real terms, which means adjusted for that

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inflation, your debt has effectively been cut

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in half. Wow. You are paying the bank back with

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dollars that are worth significantly less than

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the dollars that they lent you. They give you

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valuable twenty twenty four dollars and you're

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paying them back with cheap twenty thirty four

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dollars. So from a purely financial standpoint,

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if I have a fixed rate mortgage, I should be

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quietly rooting for a little bit of inflation.

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From a pure debt management perspective. Yes.

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Yes. Inflation is the borrower's absolute best

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friend. It erodes the real value of what you

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owe. But there has to be a catch here. I mean,

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the bank isn't dumb. They have entire floors

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of economists. They have to know this is a possibility.

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Oh, of course they do. And that's why there's

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a flip side to this bet. The bank is shouldering

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a massive risk. The interest rate risk. That's

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the one. Think about it. If inflation goes up,

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the central bank usually raises interest rates

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to fight it. So imagine a world in 10 years where

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the going rate for a new mortgage is, say, 10

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% or 15%. Like in the early 1980s, that really

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happened. It really did. So if the market rate

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is 15%, the bank could be lending out its money

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and making an absolute killing. But they can't.

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They can't because a chunk of their capital is

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tied up with you and they are stuck taking your

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measly three or four percent. They are losing

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money every single month on your loan compared

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to what they could be doing with that capital.

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So the bank is essentially taking the gamble

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on the future of the economy for me. They're

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shielding me from that volatility. They are.

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But, and this is the part I think most borrowers

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don't fully grasp, banks are not charities. They

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do not take on that kind of risk. for free, you

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are paying for that safety. It's like an insurance

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premium. That's exactly what it is. If you go

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and look at mortgage rates on any given day,

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you almost always see a pattern. Okay. A 30 -year

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fixed mortgage will have a noticeably higher

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interest rate than, say, a five -year adjustable

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rate mortgage, an ARM. And that gap, that difference

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in the rate? That's the price of the insurance.

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That is the premium. You're paying, let's say,

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an extra 1 % or 1 .5 % in interest every single

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year for the privilege of knowing that your rate

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will never, ever change. Yeah. You're buying

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insurance against a future economic disaster

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that might never actually happen. Okay. This

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leads me directly to one of the most, I have

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to say, surprising things I read in the source

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material. Oh, yeah. It was a paper that basically,

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and I'm simplifying, said that most of us are

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suckers for taking the fixed rate. It suggested

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that from a pure numbers perspective, borrowers

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should generally prefer adjustable rate mortgages.

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Ah, yes. The classic battle between economic

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theory and human psychology. It felt like a personal

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attack. I love my fixed rate. I sleep well at

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night knowing my payment isn't going to change.

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Why would a smart person choose a loan where

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the payment could suddenly double? That sounds

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like financial suicide. Well, the economists

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aren't looking at your sleep quality. They're

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looking at the long -term data. They're looking

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at something called the yield curve. Okay, you've

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got to define that, the yield curve. The easiest

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way to think of the yield curve is as the price

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of time. The price of time. Yeah. Generally speaking,

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if you want to borrow money for a very short

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period of time, say one year, it's cheap. The

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lender isn't taking on much risk. Not much can

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go wrong in a year. Right. But if you want to

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borrow that same money for 30 years, that's going

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to be much more expensive. Because anything could

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happen in 30 years. Exactly. 30 years is an eternity

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in finance. You could have wars, recessions,

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technological revolutions, pandemics. The future

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is a dark room. And the further a lender has

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to walk into that dark room, the more they demand

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to be compensated for the risk. So the curve

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of the graph showing the interest rate versus

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time slopes upward. It almost always slopes upward.

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So because the 30 -year fixed loan is the longest,

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safest, most ironclad lock -in you can possibly

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get, it is, by its very nature, the most expensive

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product on the shelf on day one. It's the luxury,

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fully loaded model, the tank. It is the tank.

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Now, the argument from The Economist is this.

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Because you are paying such a high premium for

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that tank, you usually end up paying more in

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total interest over the life of the loan than

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if you had just taken the risky adjustable rate.

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So even if the adjustable rate does go up sometimes,

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it usually averages out to be lower than the

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fixed rate over the long haul. Statistically,

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for most households in most historical periods,

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the ARM is the mathematically superior choice.

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You save a ton of money on that lower rate in

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the beginning. And even if rates do rise later,

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they rarely stay high enough for long enough

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to completely erase all those early savings.

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So we are essentially paying a huge amount of

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money just for peace of mind. We are paying to

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avoid what they call tail risk, the worst case

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scenario. The economists would say we are massively

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overinsuring ourselves against a low probability

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event. But there's a human element here they're

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missing, isn't there? I think so. And this is

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where I tend to part ways with the pure math.

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Go on. The math assumes that you can handle the

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volatility. It assumes that if your payment suddenly

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jumps from $2 ,000 to $3 ,000 a month for a couple

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of years, you can just absorb that shock. Because

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you were supposed to be saving all that money

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you weren't paying in the first few years. Right.

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But in the real world, what do people do with

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that extra money? They spend it. Life happens.

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You don't just bank the difference in a special

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account. And if you can't make that higher payment

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when it comes due, you don't just lose some economic

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efficiency. You lose your house. The cost of

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failure is catastrophic and absolute. So, while

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the ARM might be cheaper on average, The fixed

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rate prevents ruin. It prevents the worst case

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scenario. And speaking of worst case scenarios,

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this is a perfect transition into the history

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of this thing. Because we didn't always have

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this safety net, did we? Not at all. And this

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is what I think people completely forget. Yeah.

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The 30 -year fixed mortgage is not some law of

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nature. It's an invention. Right. And it was

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invented because the system that came before

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it failed so spectacularly that it almost took

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the entire country down with it. So take us back.

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Let's go to the before times. It's, say, in 1925.

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I've saved up a down payment. I want to buy a

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little bungalow. What kind of loan am I getting?

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You are getting something called a balloon payment

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mortgage. And if you think the mortgage process

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today is stressful, this was a waking nightmare.

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Okay. How'd it work? So you'd borrow the money.

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but for a very short term, maybe three years,

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five years at the absolute most. That's a really

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short time. It is. And during those five years,

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you would make monthly payments. But here's the

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kicker. Usually, those payments were interest

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only. Wait, so I'm not actually paying off the

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house at all? I'm just renting the money from

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the bank? That's a great way to put it. You're

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just trading water. You're covering the bank's

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cost of lending you the money. Okay. Then, at

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the end of the five -year term, the balloon comes

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due. And that means you owe the entire original

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principal amount in one single massive lump sum

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payment. So I borrow, I don't know, $5 ,000,

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which was a fortune back then. I pay interest

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on it for five years. And then on Tuesday, the

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bank manager knocks on my door and says, OK,

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give us the $5 ,000 back. Yes. But who has that

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kind of cash just sitting around? Yeah. If I

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had $5 ,000 in cash, I wouldn't have needed the

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loan in the first place. Exactly. Nobody had

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the cash. The entire system was built on one

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crucial assumption. Refinancing. The idea was

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you'd get to the end of your five years, the

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bank would see you've been a good borrower, making

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your interest payments on time, and they would

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just roll the loan over into a new five -year

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balloon mortgage. It's basically a confidence

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game. It only works as long as the economy is

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good and the bank is feeling generous. Right.

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It works until the music stops. And in October

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1929, the music didn't just stop. The entire

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orchestra pit caught on fire. The Great Depression.

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The Great Depression hits. So what happens to

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all those homeowners with their balloon payments

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coming due? It was an absolute catastrophe. First,

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property values crashed. So suddenly the houses

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were worth less than the loans on them. You're

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underwater. Deeply underwater. And at the same

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time, thousands of banks were going bankrupt.

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So they literally didn't have any money to lend

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out for a refinance, even if they wanted to.

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So the balloon payment comes due. And the homeowner

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says, I can't possibly pay this. And the bank

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says, we can't refinance you. And the only possible

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outcome is immediate foreclosure. And because

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this was happening to millions of people all

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at once, it just drove housing prices down even

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further. It was a death spiral. It wasn't just

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a housing crisis. It was a systemic collapse

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of the very idea of private home ownership. Yeah.

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By 1933, it's estimated that roughly half of

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all home mortgages in the entire United States

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were in default. Half. Half. Yeah. Just try to

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imagine that today. Every other house on your

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street with a for sale by sheriff sign out front.

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It's unthinkable. So this is when the government

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has to step in. The New Deal era. Exactly. You

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get the creation of the Federal Housing Administration,

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the FHA, and a bit later, Fannie Mae. And what

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did they do? They looked at all this wreckage

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and they identified that this refinancing risk

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was the poison pill. The dependency on having

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to get a new loan every few years was the fatal

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flaw. They needed a new kind of loan, a loan

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that killed itself off automatically. And this

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brings us to that fantastic word, amortization.

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Yes. It's from the Latin, et mortere, which means

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to bring to death. The root is mort. Like mortal

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death. So a mortgage is literally a death pledge.

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It's a death pledge. But, you know, in a good

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way. The innovation here was full amortization.

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So what does that mean in practice? It means

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they designed the math so that every single monthly

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payment you make is composed of two parts. Yeah.

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Some of it is interest and a little piece of

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it is principal. So you're always paying down

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the original debt, even if it's just by a tiny

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amount at first. Slowly but surely. And at the

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end of the term, whether it's 15 years or 30

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years, the balance is guaranteed to be zero.

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No balloon. No giant surprise bill at the end.

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No more dependency on the bank's mood or the

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state of the economy. Once you sign those papers,

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you are, in a way, independent of the financial

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markets. You just have to make your payment.

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It brought stability to the entire housing sector.

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It's actually amazing when you think about it.

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This thing we see as just a boring financial

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product was really a radical piece of social

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engineering, a government -backed safety net.

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It absolutely was. It was a policy tool designed

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to create a nation of stable homeowners who couldn't

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be kicked out of their houses just because Wall

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Street had a bad year. And we're seeing that

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tool evolve now. We're so used to the 15 and

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30 year terms. But I saw in the notes that now

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we're starting to see 40 year and even 50 year

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mortgages pop up in really high cost areas. We

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are. Yeah. And that's usually a sign of stress

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in the system. A 50 year mortgage. I mean, just

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do the math on that. If you buy a house at age

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30, you pay it off when you're 80. Your mortgage

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might outlive you. That's a lifetime commitment

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and then some. Why is this happening? It's a

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direct response to the affordability crisis.

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Yeah. When home prices get so astronomical that

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an average family can't afford the monthly payment

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on a standard 30 -year loan. Right. The only

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lever the bank has left to pull to make the numbers

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work is to stretch the time, to spread the pain

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out over a longer period. So it lowers the monthly

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payment, which is what people focus on. It does,

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but it... Absolutely. Explodes the total cost

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of the loan. You end up paying just a staggering

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amount of interest over those 50 years. It's

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that expensive boots theory of economics. Say

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more about that. You know, because you're poor,

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you can only afford the cheap $10 boots that

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fall apart after one winter. So over your lifetime,

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you buy 10 pairs and spend $100. The rich person

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buys the one good $50 pair that lasts forever.

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I see, because you can't afford the higher monthly

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payment of the 30 -year loan. You're forced into

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the 50 -year loan, and you end up paying triple

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the interest in the long run. It's a poverty

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trap. It can be, yes. And it just highlights

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how critically important that term, the length

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of the loan. Really is. Okay, so we firmly establish

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that the 30 -year fixed is the American standard.

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We invented it. We love it. It saved us from

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the Depression. The bedrock of the system. But

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here's the part of the research that really floored

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me. The rest of the world thinks we are absolutely

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crazy for doing it this way. We are the weird

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ones. The outlier. Let's do a little global tour.

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If I pack my bags and move to Europe or Asia

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or pretty much anywhere else, can I walk into

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a bank and get a 30 -year fixed -rate mortgage?

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In almost every single case, the answer is a

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hard no. There is one country that's a twin to

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the U .S. system, and that's Denmark, believe

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it or not. Denmark? Denmark. They have a very

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old, very sophisticated covered bond market that

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allows them to do it, but pretty much everywhere

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else. It's a completely different world. Okay,

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let's start close to home. Our neighbors to the

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north, Canada, they seem so similar to us. Their

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mortgage market must be the same, right? Not

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even close. If you walk into a Canadian bank

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and ask for a fixed rate, you are speaking a

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fundamentally different language. How is it different?

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In Canada, the amortization period might be 25

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years. So the payment is calculated as if it's

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going to be paid off in 25 years. Okay. Sounds

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similar so far. But the term... The actual period

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of time that your interest rate is locked in

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for is usually only five years. Sometimes you

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can get seven, maybe 10 if you're lucky. Wait,

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wait. So the rate is only fixed for five years?

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Correct. After five years, your loan matures

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and you have to go back to the bank and renew

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it at whatever the current market interest rate

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is. That sounds suspiciously like the old balloon

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payment problem. You're at the mercy of the market

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every five years. It doesn't have the lump sum

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principle problem, but it absolutely has the

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payment shock problem. Right. Just imagine you

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were a Canadian who got a mortgage five years

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ago at, say, a 2 % interest rate. Your five years

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are up today. You go into the bank to renew,

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and the new rate is 6%. My monthly payment would

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just skyrocket overnight. By hundreds, maybe

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thousands of dollars. The Canadian borrower carries

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all of that future interest rate risk themselves.

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The bank protects itself by just resetting the

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rate every few years. I also saw a weird little

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math quirk in the notes about Canada. Something

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to do with compounding. Ah, yes. This is for

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the real nerds out there. In the U .S., our mortgage

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interest is compounded monthly. By law in Canada,

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it has to be compounded semi -annually, so every

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six months. And what's the practical effect of

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that? It results in a slightly lower effective

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interest rate for the borrower, all else being

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equal. But frankly, the risk of your rate tripling

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every five years is a much, much bigger deal.

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No kidding. OK, let's hop across the Atlantic,

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the United Kingdom. What does fixed mean in London?

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It's even more short term. In the UK, if you

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get a fixed -rate mortgage, that typically means

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the rate is locked for two years. Two years!

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That's nothing! That's barely enough time to

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unpack all your boxes. I know. You can sometimes

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pay a hefty premium to get a five -year fix.

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But after that initial teaser period is over,

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your loan automatically converts to a much higher

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variable rate, the bank's standard variable rate.

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So what do people do? It creates a culture of

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constant refinancing. In Britain, homeowners

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are perpetually shopping around for a new deal

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every couple of years to avoid being rolled onto

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that expensive floating rate. It's a constant

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source of stress. But why? Why are British banks

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so stingy with the long -term fixed rates? Is

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it just tradition? No, it's structural. It goes

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right down to the plumbing of their banking system.

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It's all about where the money comes from. It's

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a problem called asset liability mismatch. Okay,

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break that down for me. In the UK, a lot of the

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mortgage lenders are what they call building

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societies, which are kind of like our old savings

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and loans or modern credit unions. Right. They

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get the money that they lend out primarily from

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customer deposits. Just regular people putting

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their cash in savings accounts. So they're lending

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out grandma's savings to me to buy a house. Exactly.

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Now think about grandma's savings account. That's

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a short -term liability for the bank. Grandma

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can demand her money back at any time. Right.

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And grandma expects the interest rate on her

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savings to go up if market rates are rising.

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She won't accept 1 % if other banks are offering

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5%. I think I see the problem. If the bank has

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lent me money for 30 years at a fixed rate of,

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say, 3%, but now they have to pay Grandma 5 %

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on our savings account just to keep her from

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taking her money elsewhere. The bank bleeds to

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death. They become insolvent. You cannot fund

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long -term fixed -rate assets, your mortgage,

00:22:37.099 --> 00:22:39.500
with short -term variable -rate liabilities,

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Grandma's savings account. The math simply breaks.

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So how on earth does the U .S. do it? Where do

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our banks get their money, if not from depositors?

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We have a financial superpower. It's called securitization.

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Okay. In the U .S. system, your local bank generally

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doesn't keep your loan. They're just the originator.

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They sell your 30 -year mortgage almost immediately

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to giant government -sponsored entities like

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Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac. And what do they do

00:23:06.460 --> 00:23:09.240
with it? They bundle it together with thousands

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of other similar mortgages. into a big pool,

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and they issue a bond that is backed by the payments

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from that pool of mortgages. A mortgage -backed

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security. Exactly. And they sell that bond to

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big, long -term investors, pension funds, life

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insurance companies, sovereign wealth funds.

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So investors who specifically want to hold a

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safe asset for 30 years. Precisely. A pension

00:23:32.079 --> 00:23:34.819
fund in California needs to find a safe way to

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generate income to pay its retirees in 20 or

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30 years. They love a 30 -year fixed -rate asset.

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We've created a system that perfectly matches

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the long -term borrower with the long -term investor.

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While the UK and Canada are stuck trying to make

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it work on the bank's balance sheet. So they

00:23:49.859 --> 00:23:51.759
have to keep the terms short to manage their

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risk. It's all about the plumbing. That is absolutely

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fascinating. Okay, one last stop on our global

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tour. Australia. The notes mention the Australian

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mortgage, almost as if it's a specific, unique

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product. It is, and I have to be honest, I'm

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a little bit jealous of it. It's usually called

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an offset account or an all -in -one loan. How

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does that work? Okay, imagine you combine your

00:24:12.819 --> 00:24:14.900
mortgage account and your main checking account

00:24:14.900 --> 00:24:18.000
into one single bucket. Right. You get your paycheck.

00:24:18.579 --> 00:24:21.759
Let's say it's $5 ,000. It gets deposited directly

00:24:21.759 --> 00:24:24.160
into your mortgage account. So my mortgage balance

00:24:24.160 --> 00:24:28.039
immediately drops by $5 ,000. Instantly. And

00:24:28.039 --> 00:24:30.220
because mortgage interest in their system is

00:24:30.220 --> 00:24:32.839
often calculated daily on the outstanding balance,

00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:35.960
you are paying less interest from the very second

00:24:35.960 --> 00:24:37.900
that money hits your account. And then what?

00:24:38.240 --> 00:24:40.339
Then, as you go through your month paying your

00:24:40.339 --> 00:24:42.940
bills, your groceries, your electric bill, your

00:24:42.940 --> 00:24:45.539
car payment, you're just redrawing that money

00:24:45.539 --> 00:24:47.859
back out of the mortgage account. That's incredibly

00:24:47.859 --> 00:24:50.960
clever. It means every single dollar you have

00:24:50.960 --> 00:24:53.539
is working to reduce your interest burden for

00:24:53.539 --> 00:24:55.599
every single hour it's just sitting there waiting

00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.059
to be spent. It forces your money to be as efficient

00:24:58.059 --> 00:25:00.799
as possible. And it also provides incredible

00:25:00.799 --> 00:25:03.940
flexibility. How so? In the U .S., if you make

00:25:03.940 --> 00:25:06.380
an extra payment on your mortgage, that money

00:25:06.380 --> 00:25:09.400
is basically gone. You can't get it back without

00:25:09.400 --> 00:25:12.279
a costly refinancing. In Australia, if you've

00:25:12.279 --> 00:25:14.980
overpaid, you can pull that extra money right

00:25:14.980 --> 00:25:16.740
back out if you have an emergency or want to

00:25:16.740 --> 00:25:18.980
buy a car. It basically turns your house into

00:25:18.980 --> 00:25:21.500
a giant line of credit, a piggy bank. A piggy

00:25:21.500 --> 00:25:23.920
bank that saves you 6 % or 7 % interest instead

00:25:23.920 --> 00:25:26.759
of earning you zero in a checking account. It's

00:25:26.759 --> 00:25:29.019
a very powerful, flexible tool. So it's really

00:25:29.019 --> 00:25:31.819
true. The 30 -year fixed rate mortgage is a unicorn.

00:25:32.160 --> 00:25:34.880
It's a product of very specific U .S. government

00:25:34.880 --> 00:25:38.900
policies and this massive, complex bond market

00:25:38.900 --> 00:25:41.359
structure that just doesn't exist in the same

00:25:41.359 --> 00:25:43.220
way elsewhere. We are the anomaly. There's no

00:25:43.220 --> 00:25:45.460
question about it. Okay. We have covered the

00:25:45.460 --> 00:25:47.700
what, the why, and the where. Now we have to

00:25:47.700 --> 00:25:49.339
roll up our sleeves and do the heavy lifting.

00:25:49.500 --> 00:25:52.519
The math. The engine room. I know, I know. When

00:25:52.519 --> 00:25:54.440
you hear the word math, you might want to tune

00:25:54.440 --> 00:25:56.960
out. But please, stay with us on this. Because

00:25:56.960 --> 00:26:00.019
this explains everything. It explains why, when

00:26:00.019 --> 00:26:01.880
you look at your mortgage statement after making

00:26:01.880 --> 00:26:04.839
payments for five years, it feels like the balance

00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:07.500
has barely gone down. It's the most common complaint

00:26:07.500 --> 00:26:09.500
from homeowners. And we promised we'd explain

00:26:09.500 --> 00:26:11.660
how they calculate that very specific number.

00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:18.059
Why is your payment... $1 ,264 and not $1 ,265.

00:26:18.279 --> 00:26:20.380
It all comes from a formula. It's called the

00:26:20.380 --> 00:26:22.460
present value of an ordinary annuity formula.

00:26:22.799 --> 00:26:25.240
But let's not just recite algebra. Let's try

00:26:25.240 --> 00:26:27.779
to visualize it. I want you to imagine a bucket.

00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:30.720
Okay, a bucket. I can do that. This bucket represents

00:26:30.720 --> 00:26:33.000
your principal. It's the total amount of money

00:26:33.000 --> 00:26:36.079
you owe the bank. On day one, month zero of your

00:26:36.079 --> 00:26:38.740
loan, that bucket is filled right to the very

00:26:38.740 --> 00:26:41.640
brim with water. Let's say it's $300 ,000 worth

00:26:41.640 --> 00:26:44.900
of water. Got it. A full bucket, $300 ,000 of

00:26:44.900 --> 00:26:47.160
debt water. Every single month, two things happen

00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.339
to the water in this bucket. First, the bank

00:26:49.339 --> 00:26:51.099
comes along with a hose and they pour a little

00:26:51.099 --> 00:26:53.779
more water in. That water is the interest that

00:26:53.779 --> 00:26:56.099
is accrued for the month. And this is the critical

00:26:56.099 --> 00:26:58.579
part, isn't it? How much water do they pour in?

00:26:58.700 --> 00:27:01.680
The amount of water they pour in is directly

00:27:01.680 --> 00:27:04.480
proportional to how much water is currently in

00:27:04.480 --> 00:27:06.619
the bucket. It's a percentage of the current

00:27:06.619 --> 00:27:09.839
balance. So at the very beginning, when the bucket

00:27:09.839 --> 00:27:13.000
is completely full, the bank is pouring in a

00:27:13.000 --> 00:27:15.579
massive amount of water every month. So the water

00:27:15.579 --> 00:27:18.180
level is actively trying to rise. My debt is

00:27:18.180 --> 00:27:21.240
trying to grow. It is. But then, right after

00:27:21.240 --> 00:27:23.640
they pour their water in, you come along with

00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:25.920
a ladle. That ladle is your fixed monthly payment.

00:27:26.579 --> 00:27:28.930
And you scoop out a fixed amount of water. And

00:27:28.930 --> 00:27:31.170
because it's a fixed rate mortgage, my ladle

00:27:31.170 --> 00:27:34.690
is the exact same size every single month for

00:27:34.690 --> 00:27:37.849
30 years. Your ladle never, ever changes size.

00:27:38.130 --> 00:27:40.829
Now, here's the problem and the source of all

00:27:40.829 --> 00:27:43.309
that frustration. Okay. At the beginning of the

00:27:43.309 --> 00:27:46.470
loan, in those first few years, the bank is pouring

00:27:46.470 --> 00:27:49.069
in a lot of water. So when you come along with

00:27:49.069 --> 00:27:51.670
your big ladle and scoop out, say, $1 ,500 of

00:27:51.670 --> 00:27:54.170
water, almost all of your scoop is just removing

00:27:54.170 --> 00:27:56.150
the new interest water the bank just put in.

00:27:56.170 --> 00:27:57.789
I'm basically just cleaning up the fresh mess

00:27:57.789 --> 00:27:59.589
they just made. You're cleaning up their mess.

00:27:59.809 --> 00:28:03.369
You scoop out your $1 ,500 payment. But $1 ,400

00:28:03.369 --> 00:28:06.230
of it was just new interest. Only a tiny little

00:28:06.230 --> 00:28:08.950
bit, maybe $100 of your scoop, actually goes

00:28:08.950 --> 00:28:11.430
toward lowering the original water level in the

00:28:11.430 --> 00:28:13.369
bucket. That's why the balance barely moves.

00:28:13.509 --> 00:28:16.710
It's so depressing. It is. But, and this is the

00:28:16.710 --> 00:28:18.690
mathematical magic of the geometric progression,

00:28:18.950 --> 00:28:21.509
because you scooped out that tiny $100 of principal,

00:28:21.789 --> 00:28:24.650
the water level is now slightly lower for next

00:28:24.650 --> 00:28:27.059
month. Which means next month, the bank's hose

00:28:27.059 --> 00:28:30.299
pours in slightly less water. Yes. Maybe next

00:28:30.299 --> 00:28:33.579
month they only pour in $1 ,399 of interest,

00:28:33.779 --> 00:28:36.759
which means your ladle, which is still the same

00:28:36.759 --> 00:28:40.799
$1 ,500 size, is now able to remove 101 waters

00:28:40.799 --> 00:28:43.220
of principal. It's an accelerating process. It

00:28:43.220 --> 00:28:45.960
compounds in your favor very, very slowly at

00:28:45.960 --> 00:28:48.319
first and then faster and faster. By the time

00:28:48.319 --> 00:28:50.890
you get to year 20 or 25 of the loan. the water

00:28:50.890 --> 00:28:52.970
level in the bucket is much lower. So the bank

00:28:52.970 --> 00:28:54.809
is only pouring in a tiny trickle of interest

00:28:54.809 --> 00:28:57.309
each month. Exactly. And now your big $1 ,500

00:28:57.309 --> 00:28:59.670
ladle is almost entirely removing principal.

00:28:59.869 --> 00:29:02.329
You start emptying that bucket in huge, satisfying

00:29:02.329 --> 00:29:04.670
chunks toward the end. So that crazy -looking

00:29:04.670 --> 00:29:07.910
formula with all the exponents, its only job

00:29:07.910 --> 00:29:10.450
is to calculate the exact size your ladle needs

00:29:10.450 --> 00:29:12.609
to be so that the bucket runs completely dry

00:29:12.609 --> 00:29:15.230
on the very last scoop of the 30th year. That

00:29:15.230 --> 00:29:18.410
is its only job. It solves for zero. If your

00:29:18.410 --> 00:29:21.220
ladle were one penny too small, the water level

00:29:21.220 --> 00:29:24.259
would slowly rise forever. That's negative amortization.

00:29:24.559 --> 00:29:26.859
If it were too big, you'd pay the loan off early.

00:29:27.119 --> 00:29:37.660
The formula finds the perfect balance. smaller

00:29:37.660 --> 00:29:40.119
ladle, even just a teaspoon, and scoop out a

00:29:40.119 --> 00:29:42.160
little extra water, I'm lowering the principle

00:29:42.160 --> 00:29:44.640
level permanently. Which reduces the amount of

00:29:44.640 --> 00:29:46.880
water the bank can pour in next month, and every

00:29:46.880 --> 00:29:49.160
single month after that, making your main ladle

00:29:49.160 --> 00:29:51.640
more and more effective forever. You disrupt

00:29:51.640 --> 00:29:53.619
the geometric progression in your favor. You

00:29:53.619 --> 00:29:55.960
absolutely do. Okay, speaking of the math, there

00:29:55.960 --> 00:29:57.920
was a little puzzle in the source material that

00:29:57.920 --> 00:30:00.599
I found fascinating. The equivalence puzzle.

00:30:00.859 --> 00:30:02.700
Oh, this is a great one. A real brain teaser.

00:30:03.039 --> 00:30:06.589
Let's pose it to you, the listener. Imagine you

00:30:06.589 --> 00:30:08.869
are offered two very different loans on the same

00:30:08.869 --> 00:30:12.430
house. Okay. Loan A is a 30 -year mortgage with

00:30:12.430 --> 00:30:15.869
a super low interest rate, let's say 2 .5%. A

00:30:15.869 --> 00:30:19.029
great rate. Loan B is only a 15 -year mortgage,

00:30:19.250 --> 00:30:21.910
but the rate is much higher. It's 5%, double

00:30:21.910 --> 00:30:25.049
the rate. So on the surface, Loan B looks twice

00:30:25.049 --> 00:30:27.410
as expensive from a rate perspective. Exactly.

00:30:27.549 --> 00:30:30.710
But here is the mind -bending part. If you actually

00:30:30.710 --> 00:30:33.250
run the numbers, the total amount of money you

00:30:33.250 --> 00:30:35.740
pay to the bank over the life of the loan The

00:30:35.740 --> 00:30:37.799
principal plus every single dollar of interest

00:30:37.799 --> 00:30:41.039
can be almost identical in both scenarios. It

00:30:41.039 --> 00:30:42.799
feels completely wrong, doesn't it? It feels

00:30:42.799 --> 00:30:45.660
impossible. How can a 5 % loan end up costing

00:30:45.660 --> 00:30:48.319
the same as a 2 .5 % loan? It all comes back

00:30:48.319 --> 00:30:51.359
to that other crucial variable, time. Time is

00:30:51.359 --> 00:30:54.279
a multiplier for cost. Explain that. In the 30

00:30:54.279 --> 00:30:56.740
-year loan, yes, you're paying a very low interest

00:30:56.740 --> 00:30:59.799
rate, but you're paying it on a large, slowly

00:30:59.799 --> 00:31:03.490
declining balance for 360 months. The interest

00:31:03.490 --> 00:31:05.910
has three full decades to pile up and accumulate.

00:31:06.170 --> 00:31:08.609
And in the 15 -year loan? You're paying a much

00:31:08.609 --> 00:31:11.029
higher rate, but you're killing off the principal

00:31:11.029 --> 00:31:14.890
so aggressively, your ladle is so big, that the

00:31:14.890 --> 00:31:16.769
interest never gets a chance to really compound

00:31:16.769 --> 00:31:19.309
against you. You starve at a time. That really

00:31:19.309 --> 00:31:21.410
drives home the point that the interest rate

00:31:21.410 --> 00:31:23.349
isn't the only thing you should look at. The

00:31:23.349 --> 00:31:26.210
term of the loan is just as important, if not

00:31:26.210 --> 00:31:28.589
more so. There are two levers that control the

00:31:28.589 --> 00:31:31.490
same outcome. which is total cost you can lower

00:31:31.490 --> 00:31:34.309
your total cost by finding a lower rate or by

00:31:34.309 --> 00:31:36.710
shortening the time you take to pay it back and

00:31:36.710 --> 00:31:38.950
this brings us right back around to the psychological

00:31:38.950 --> 00:31:42.789
benefit of the fixed loan budgeting yes the fixed

00:31:42.789 --> 00:31:45.470
rate mortgage is more than anything else a budgeting

00:31:45.470 --> 00:31:47.970
tool it allows you to plan your entire financial

00:31:47.970 --> 00:31:50.430
life You know that, come hell or high water,

00:31:50.609 --> 00:31:55.390
that $1 ,264 .14 is leaving your account on the

00:31:55.390 --> 00:31:57.490
first of the month. You can build everything

00:31:57.490 --> 00:32:00.390
else around that one solid pillar of certainty.

00:32:00.710 --> 00:32:02.529
Compare that to some of the horror stories we

00:32:02.529 --> 00:32:04.450
saw with those other loan types leading up to

00:32:04.450 --> 00:32:07.170
the 2008 crisis. The negative amortization loans.

00:32:07.490 --> 00:32:10.089
Right, the pick -a -pay loans, where the bank

00:32:10.089 --> 00:32:12.470
literally allowed you to use a ladle that was

00:32:12.470 --> 00:32:15.349
too small for the bucket. You were paying less

00:32:15.349 --> 00:32:17.250
than the interest that was accruing each month.

00:32:17.329 --> 00:32:19.569
So the bucket was overflowing. The debt was actually

00:32:19.569 --> 00:32:21.849
growing every single month, even though you were

00:32:21.849 --> 00:32:24.250
making payments. Can you imagine? Yeah. You make

00:32:24.250 --> 00:32:27.210
payments for five years and you owe more than

00:32:27.210 --> 00:32:30.049
you originally borrowed. It was a toxic product

00:32:30.049 --> 00:32:33.650
by design. The 30 -year fix makes that an impossibility.

00:32:33.890 --> 00:32:36.630
So we've covered a lot of ground here. We certainly

00:32:36.630 --> 00:32:39.099
have. We've established that the fixed rate mortgage

00:32:39.099 --> 00:32:42.519
is this very specific U .S. centric innovation

00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.240
that was born out of the ashes of the Great Depression

00:32:45.240 --> 00:32:48.279
specifically to create housing stability. It

00:32:48.279 --> 00:32:50.420
was a deliberate policy choice, a government

00:32:50.420 --> 00:32:53.000
designed safety net made out of financial paper.

00:32:53.160 --> 00:32:55.740
And its core function is to transfer the risk

00:32:55.740 --> 00:32:57.980
of an uncertain future from your kitchen table

00:32:57.980 --> 00:33:01.140
to the bank or more accurately to the global

00:33:01.140 --> 00:33:04.000
investors backing the bank. For a price. And

00:33:04.000 --> 00:33:06.039
that price is that little bit of extra interest

00:33:06.039 --> 00:33:09.250
you pay. that insurance premium. And we've seen

00:33:09.250 --> 00:33:11.890
how the rest of the world, the UK, Canada, Australia,

00:33:12.170 --> 00:33:14.829
handles this risk in a completely different way,

00:33:15.049 --> 00:33:18.690
usually by keeping the fixed period very short

00:33:18.690 --> 00:33:20.970
to protect their banks. Which puts all that volatility

00:33:20.970 --> 00:33:22.849
right back onto the homeowner. I want to leave

00:33:22.849 --> 00:33:25.569
our listeners with one final and I think slightly

00:33:25.569 --> 00:33:29.089
provocative thought. We've talked about how the

00:33:29.089 --> 00:33:33.420
bank takes on all this risk for us. But do they

00:33:33.420 --> 00:33:35.819
really keep that risk on their own books? Now

00:33:35.819 --> 00:33:37.740
that is the billion dollar question, isn't it?

00:33:37.759 --> 00:33:40.339
The source material mentioned terms like derivatives

00:33:40.339 --> 00:33:43.619
and the black skulls model. That's some pretty

00:33:43.619 --> 00:33:45.960
heavy Wall Street jargon. It is. But here's the

00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:48.700
simple reality. When you sign that mortgage,

00:33:48.940 --> 00:33:50.920
the bank doesn't just put your loan documents

00:33:50.920 --> 00:33:53.359
in a dusty vault and wait for your checks to

00:33:53.359 --> 00:33:56.480
come in for 30 years. They don't? No. Your mortgage

00:33:56.480 --> 00:33:59.059
is instantly transformed into a data point in

00:33:59.059 --> 00:34:01.480
a global system. They might sell the whole loan

00:34:01.480 --> 00:34:04.140
off, as we discussed, or they might keep the

00:34:04.140 --> 00:34:06.160
loan but then immediately buy a separate financial

00:34:06.160 --> 00:34:08.199
instrument, a derivative, that's essentially

00:34:08.199 --> 00:34:10.579
a side bet. A side bet that pays them off if

00:34:10.579 --> 00:34:12.519
interest rates rise, so they're hedging their

00:34:12.519 --> 00:34:15.590
hedge. It's even more complex than that. Your

00:34:15.590 --> 00:34:17.769
individual mortgage is bundled with thousands

00:34:17.769 --> 00:34:19.929
of others. Then it's sliced up into different

00:34:19.929 --> 00:34:22.550
tranches based on risk level. And those slices

00:34:22.550 --> 00:34:25.170
are turned into a mortgage backed security that

00:34:25.170 --> 00:34:27.230
is bought and sold on markets all over the world.

00:34:27.429 --> 00:34:30.690
So a pension fund in Norway could own the rights

00:34:30.690 --> 00:34:33.150
to the. principal portion of my monthly payment.

00:34:33.389 --> 00:34:36.630
And a hedge fund in New York could be trading

00:34:36.630 --> 00:34:39.449
options based on the statistical probability

00:34:39.449 --> 00:34:41.670
that I'm going to refinance my loan next year

00:34:41.670 --> 00:34:44.550
if rates drop. That is exactly what is happening.

00:34:44.570 --> 00:34:46.809
You pay a premium for stability and simplicity

00:34:46.809 --> 00:34:50.090
at your kitchen table. But in order to manufacture

00:34:50.090 --> 00:34:52.730
that stability for you, the financial system

00:34:52.730 --> 00:34:55.250
has to create a mind -boggling amount of complexity

00:34:55.250 --> 00:34:58.530
on the back end, slicing, dicing, and trading

00:34:58.530 --> 00:35:00.849
your personal risk across the entire planet.

00:35:01.079 --> 00:35:04.260
So my household budget is actually a tiny cog

00:35:04.260 --> 00:35:07.159
in a massive global hedge fund equation. It is

00:35:07.159 --> 00:35:09.719
the very nature of modern finance. Stability

00:35:09.719 --> 00:35:12.280
for the end user requires immense complexity

00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:14.519
for the system that provides it. Well, on that

00:35:14.519 --> 00:35:16.940
slightly terrifying and awe -inspiring note,

00:35:17.039 --> 00:35:18.719
I think we'll close the book on the fixed rate

00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:21.079
mortgage for today. It's been a fascinating discussion.

00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:23.260
Thank you for taking this deep dive with us.

00:35:23.320 --> 00:35:25.880
Hopefully the next time you look at that monthly

00:35:25.880 --> 00:35:28.380
mortgage statement, you won't just see a bill.

00:35:29.000 --> 00:35:31.159
You'll see a history of the Great Depression,

00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:34.699
a bucket and a ladle, and your own little piece

00:35:34.699 --> 00:35:37.860
of a global financial engineering marvel. Indeed,

00:35:38.079 --> 00:35:40.420
a death pledge that gives you life. Keep asking

00:35:40.420 --> 00:35:42.079
questions. We'll see you next time.
