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I want you to close your eyes for a second. Well,

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don't close them if you're driving, but picture

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the government. Okay. When I say that word, what

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pops into your head? Yeah. You're probably picturing

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the Capitol building in D .C., right? Right.

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The big white dome, marble steps, sea sand. Exactly.

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People in expensive suits arguing. Yeah. Or maybe

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you think of your state capital or even City

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Hall downtown where you go to pay a parking ticket.

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We are, you know, we're trained to think of government

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as this distant monolithic thing. It is the standard

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civics class definition, you know, elected officials,

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public accountability, the Constitution, the

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big stuff. But here's the thing. For millions

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of Americans, and I mean millions, the government

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that actually controls their daily life. isn't

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in a marble building. No. It's not thousands

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of miles away. It's literally next door. It's

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arguably sitting at a cheap folding table in

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a community clubhouse on a Tuesday night, deciding

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whether your hedges are three inches too high.

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You were talking about the Homeowner Association.

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The HOA. The HOA. And you are right to use the

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word government. We tend to dismiss them as just...

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neighborhood clubs or the lawn police. But structurally,

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legally, and functionally, they are a massive

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layer of private governance. And when we say

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massive, I think people really underestimate

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the scale. I was looking at the data from the

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Community Associations Institute, and the numbers

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are just staggering. They really are. As of 2010,

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and you have to keep in mind that's over a decade

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ago, so the trajectory has only gone up, nearly

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25 million American homes were under this kind

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of regime. And that translates to about 62 million

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residents. 62 million. To give you a sense of

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scale, that is a population larger than Italy.

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It is larger than South Africa. If HOA land were

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its own country, it would be a G20 nation. That's

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wild. It's a nation within a nation. A nation

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within a nation. But it's a weird kind of nation,

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isn't it? Yeah. Because people rush to move there.

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They pay a premium to live there. Oh, absolutely.

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We move for stability, right? We want to know

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that the guy across the street isn't going to

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start an auto body shop in his front yard at

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3 in the morning. We want our property values

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to go up. That is the sales pitch. Stability,

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predictability, amenities. You know what you're

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getting. But there is a catch. And I don't think

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people realize how sharp the hook is until they

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are already on it. To get that stability, you

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sign a contract that, and we're going to get

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into the weeds on this, might actually limit

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your constitutional rights. It often does. It

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can expose you to what economists call double

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taxation. Honestly terrifying scenarios. Allow

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your neighbors to seize your house and sell it

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without a judge ever looking at the case. That

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is the trade -off we have normalized. We have

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effectively privatized local government. And

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today our mission is to figure out how on earth

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this happened. Right. Because it wasn't an accident.

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It wasn't just people deciding they liked cul

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-de -sacs. It is the result of a really strange

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cocktail of 19th century land deeds, some very

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specific 1970s environmental laws and municipal

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budget cutting. Hold on. You just said environmental

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laws. You're telling me that saving the planet.

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somehow led to people getting fined for the wrong

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shade of beige paint. Believe it or not, the

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Clean Water Act is one of the biggest reasons

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HOAs are everywhere today. That sounds like a

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stretch, but I'm ready to be convinced. But before

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we get to the rainwater and the budget cuts,

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we have to start at the beginning. The origin

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story. The origin story. Frankly, looking at

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the research, it's not exactly a heartwarming

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tale of community building. It's pretty dark.

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It is dark. If we want to be honest about the

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DNA and the HOA, we have to go back to the late

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19th and early 20th centuries. We didn't have

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associations back then in the modern sense, but

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we had something called deed restrictions. OK,

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explain that for the non -lawyers listening.

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What is a deed restriction? So when you buy a

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piece of land, you get a deed. That's the piece

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of paper that says you own it. A deed restriction

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is a clause written into that paper that limits

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what you can do with the land. And crucially,

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it runs with the land. Runs with the land. That

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sounds ominous. It means it's permanent. Think

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of it like a sticky note that's been super glued

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to the house. It doesn't matter if you sell the

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house or if the person you sold it to sells it

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again five times over. The sticky note is still

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there. That sticky note stays there. The restriction

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binds every future owner forever unless a court

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specifically strikes it down. And in the early

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1900s, I'm guessing these weren't just about

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keeping the grass cut, were they? No, not at

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all. I mean, some were about setbacks from the

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road or building materials, sure. But we have

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to look at the precursors, organizations like

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the Arroyo Seco Improvement Association in Pasadena

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around 1905 or the Los Feliz Improvement Association

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in 1916. And if you dig into the archives and

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read the actual text of these covenants, the

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primary goal was often segregation. Outright

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segregation. Blatant. The economic theory of

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the time, which was widely accepted, was that

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property values were direct— I was reading through

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some of the source material you sent over, and

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I found a covenant from a neighborhood in Seattle

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that actually made my stomach turn. It wasn't

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vague. It explicitly banned, and I'm quoting

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the legal document here, Hebrew, Ethiopian, Malay

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or Asiatic races from occupying the property.

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And that was common. It was systematic. It wasn't

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just a few racist homeowners. Developers wrote

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these into the initial deeds for entire subdivisions.

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It was a tool of urban planning used to create

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and enforce all white enclaves. So this is just

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legal. You could put that in the contract. For

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a long time, yes. But then in 1948, we had a

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landmark Supreme Court case called Shelley v.

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Kramer. OK. And the court looked at these racially

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restrictive covenants and made a very specific,

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very clever ruling. They didn't say the covenants

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themselves were illegal to write. Wait, what?

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So you could still write them? You could still

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write them. But what the court said was that

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they were unenforceable in court. The reasoning

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was subtle. They said private parties can sign

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whatever voluntary contracts they want, but the

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state, meaning the courts, cannot be used to

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enforce discrimination because that would be

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a state action violating the 14th Amendment.

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That's a distinction without a difference, isn't

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it? If you can't enforce it, what's the point?

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Well, it took away the legal teeth. But for another

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20 years, these covenants still existed and they

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were enforced socially through real estate agents,

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through gentlemen's agreements, through intimidation.

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So it moved from a legal barrier to a social

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one. Exactly. It wasn't until the Fair Housing

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Act of 1968 that discrimination based on race,

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religion and national origin was finally actually

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made illegal in housing transactions. OK, so

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the explicit racism gets legally dismantled.

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Mostly by the late 60s. But that's exactly when

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the HOA boom starts to go exponential. So if

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they couldn't use it for segregation anymore.

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Why did the model explode? There were two major

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engines driving this, and they both revved up

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right around that same time in the 60s. The first

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was the Federal Housing Administration, the FHA.

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The FHA. In 1963, the FHA started approving federal

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mortgage insurance for condominiums and subdivisions

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that had HOAs. Which basically means the federal

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government said, we will back these loans. And

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that's the green light for developers if the

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government will insure it. The banks will fund

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it. It was a massive green light. It fundamentally

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changed development patterns. Before this, developers

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were mostly constrained by local zoning laws.

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If a town said you can only build two single

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family houses per acre, that's all you could

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build. Right. But with the new HOA model, developers

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could go to the town and propose something called

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a planned unit development or a P .U. They could

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say, hey. Let us cluster the houses closer together.

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We'll build four houses per acre, but we promise

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to leave the rest of the land as common open

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space. So they get to sell more units on the

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same plot of land. They sell more units on the

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same amount of land. It's pure profit maximization.

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But to make that work, you need a mechanism to

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manage that common open space. You can't just

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leave it there. Who mows it? Who insures it if

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someone gets hurt there? Enter the association.

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Enter the association. And this wasn't just some

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vague idea floating around. In 1964, the Urban

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Land Institute published something called Technical

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Bulletin 50. Technical Bulletin 50. Sounds like

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the title of a very boring movie. It sounds...

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Dry as dust. But I promise you, this document

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is essentially the Bible of modern suburbia.

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It was funded by federal agencies like the FHA

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and the National Association of Home Builders.

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It wasn't just a suggestion. It was a recipe

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book. A recipe book. It laid out the exact legal

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language for the covenants, the exact corporate

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structure, the exact management techniques for

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creating a planned unit development with an HOA.

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So it was a franchise manual. Like, here is how

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you build a McDonald's, but for neighborhoods.

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Perfect analogy. It was plug and play. Before

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TV 50, these associations were sort of custom

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built experimental. After TV 50, they were a

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standardized product. You could just copy paste

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the bylaws from the manual. This is why an HOA

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in Florida looks almost legally identical to

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an HOA in Oregon today. They're all working from

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the same playbook. Okay, so we have the profit

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motive for developers, squeeze in more houses.

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We have the government backing from the FHA,

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which de -risks it for the banks. But earlier

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you dropped that bomb about the Clean Water Act.

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I'm still stuck on that. How does an environmental

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law about rivers lead to me getting a letter

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about... my trash cans. This is one of the classic

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examples of unintended consequences in public

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policy. So fast forward to 1977, the Clean Water

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Act is expanded. The EPA starts cracking down

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on what they call non -point source pollution.

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Right off, like from streets and lawns. Exactly.

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When you build a new subdivision, you are essentially

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paving over a natural sponge. You put down asphalt

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roads, concrete driveways, shingled roofs. So

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when it rains, the water doesn't soak into the

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ground anymore. It rushes off the pavement. picks

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up oil from driveways, fertilizer from lawns,

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and floods the local creeks with pollutants.

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So the EPA comes in and says, you can't just

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dump all that dirty water into the river. Correct.

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They mandated that new developments had to manage

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their own stormwater on site. The engineering

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solution that became standard was their retention

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pond. Their retention pond. You know exactly

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what I'm talking about. Every suburban neighborhood

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built after 1980 has one. It's that little man

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-made pond near the entrance, usually with a

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fountain in the middle. I never realized that

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was a federal mandate. I just thought developers

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liked fountains. The fountain isn't just for

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looks. It's functional. It aerates the water

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and keeps it moving so it doesn't get stagnant

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and breed mosquitoes. But here is the legal rub.

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That pond serves the whole neighborhood. It takes

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the water from 50 or 100 different driveways.

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So you cannot put that pond on one person's private

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lot. Of course not. What if they decide to fill

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it in? Exactly. It has to be designated as common

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property. And if it's common property? Someone

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has to own it. The city doesn't want to own it.

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They don't want the maintenance cost or the liability

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if a kid falls in. So the developer must, by

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law, create a private corporation. The HOA, too,

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hold the title to the pond and collect money

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from all the homeowners to maintain it. So the

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HOA is born out of the legal necessity to own

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a drainage ditch. Essentially, yes, that's the

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non -negotiable part. But once the lawyer has

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set up the corporation to own the pond, the developer

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thinks, well, hang on. We have this corporate

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structure. We have this built -in ability to

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tax the residents for the pond maintenance. Why

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don't we just expand its powers? Let's use the

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same corporation to maintain a community pool

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and a clubhouse. And the front date. And while

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we're at it, let's give it the power to regulate

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the aesthetics of the houses to keep sales prices

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high while we're still selling units. The pond

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was the Trojan horse. It was the legal anchor.

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Once the anchor is there, you can hang whatever

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rules you want on it. And that is why today it

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is almost impossible to buy a new construction

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home in the suburbs without an HOA. The developer

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physically cannot get the permits to build the

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neighborhood without creating a legal entity

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to manage the stormwater. That is absolutely

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fascinating. We're living under these vast private

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governments because of drainage engineering.

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It's the butterfly effect of bureaucracy. A rule

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meant to clean up rivers ended up reshaping American

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civil life. So let's dig into what this government

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actually looks like, because I think a lot of

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listeners might be not. along thinking yeah i

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pay my dues but if i buy a house i tend to think

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i own this it's my castle but if it's in an hoa

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that's not strictly true is it not in the way

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we traditionally think of ownership when you

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buy into an hoa you are doing two things simultaneously

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you are buying a piece of real estate yes the

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house, the plot of land, but you are also becoming

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a mandatory member of a nonprofit corporation.

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Mandatory being the key word. Mandatory. You

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cannot opt out. It is a condition of the purchase.

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And this goes back to that sticky note idea you

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mentioned earlier, the deed restrictions. Exactly.

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The governing documents are called the CC &amp;Rs,

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covenants, conditions, and restrictions. This

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is the constitution of your little private nation.

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And because those CC &amp;Rs are attached to the

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deed, the law says you have constructive notice.

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Which means... Which means it doesn't matter

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if you didn't read the 400 -page packet of documents

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at your closing. Nobody reads the whole packet.

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Nobody! You're signing 50 things at closing.

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Your hand is cramping. You just want the keys.

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But it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if the

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realtor didn't explain it to you. By signing

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the deed, the law presumes that you have read,

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understood, and agreed to every single rule in

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that book. That's terrifying. And that is where

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the friction starts. Because people move in thinking

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it's a democracy. They think, well, if we don't

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like the rule about mailboxes, we'll just vote

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to change it. But an HOA is not a democracy.

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It is a corporation. OK, break that down for

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me. What's the real world difference in a civic

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democracy like your city or your state? The principle

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is one person, one vote. I vote. You vote. We're

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equal citizens. Right. In an HOA, it is a shareholder

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democracy. Voting power is based on property

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ownership. So if I'm a big investor and I own

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five houses in the neighborhood. I get five votes.

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Exactly. And if I am a renter living there for

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a decade, I get zero votes. Think about that.

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You could live in a neighborhood for 10 years.

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Your kids go to the local school. You walk your

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dog on the same streets. You are arguably a deeper

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part of the community fabric than the out -of

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-state investor who owns the house but has never

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even seen it. But I have absolutely no say in

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the rules that govern my daily life. The color

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I can paint my door where I can park my car.

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Nothing. You're a resident, but you are not a

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citizen. This creates a really weird class system.

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The residents versus the owners. And it gets

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even more skewed when the development is brand

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new. There's what's called the developer control

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period. Okay. When a developer is building a

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neighborhood in phases, they want to maintain

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absolute control over the look and feel of the

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place until they are finished selling everything.

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So they often write the bylaws to give themselves

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weighted voting rights. Weighted how? Like, how

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bad can it be? Oh, it can be a 3 to 1 or even

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a 10 to 1 ratio. It's common. For every lot the

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developer still owns, they get 10 votes. You,

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the homeowner who actually lives there, get one.

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So even if the neighborhood is 90 % full of actual

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residents, the developer who only owns the last

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10 % of empty lots might still be able to outvote

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everyone else combined. Easily. Correct. They

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can install their own employees on the board

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of directors. They can set the budget to be artificially

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low to attract new buyers. And they can basically

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run the place as a private dictatorship until

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the very last unit is sold. And then they just

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leave. And then they hand over the keys to a

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group of unprepared volunteer homeowners and

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say, good luck. And that transition period is

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often a complete disaster. I can imagine. The

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new homeowner board takes over and they open

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the books and realize, wait a minute, the developers

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set the dues at $50 a month to make it look cheap.

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But the actual cost to run the pool and mow the

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common areas is $150 a month. And suddenly everyone's

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dues have to triple overnight. And they all blame

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the new board. Or worse, they realize the developer

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did a shoddy job building the clubhouse and now

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the warranty has expired and there's a huge repair

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bill coming due. So we have this corporate structure.

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We have a board of directors who are basically

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just Bob and Karen from down the street. They

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are volunteers. They probably aren't lawyers

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or accountants, but they have immense power.

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They have what we call a fiduciary duty. which

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is a fancy legal term, but it just means they

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are legally required to act in the best financial

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interests of the corporation. But to enforce

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that, they have an arsenal of weapons. Let's

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talk about the weapons, because this is where

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all the horror stories come from. We all know

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about the fines. Your grass is two inches too

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long. Pay $50. But it goes way, way beyond that.

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The fine is just the first step. It's a slap

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on the wrist. The real power comes from the assessment,

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the power to compel payment. And if you don't

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pay, whether it's your monthly dues or fines

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or legal fees the HOA has tacked on. The HOA

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can place a lien on your property. And a lien

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means you can't sell the house. You can't refinance.

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It's a black mark on your title until the debt

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is paid. Right. But the final step, the nuclear

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option, is foreclosure. And I want to be very,

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very clear about this. In many states, an HOA

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can take your home. I think people hear foreclosure

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and they think of a bank. I didn't pay my mortgage

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for a year, so the bank took the house. That

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makes a certain kind of sense to people. It's

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a huge debt. But you're saying the HOA can do

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it, too, for what could be a much smaller amount.

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Yes. And in some states, like Texas, for example,

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they can do it via nonjudicial foreclosure. Nonjudicial.

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That sounds like without a judge. That is exactly

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what it means. They do not have to go to court.

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They do not have to stand in front of a judge

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and prove you actually owe the money before they

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sell your house on the courthouse steps. They

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just have to follow a specific notification process,

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sending letters. There is a story from your notes

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that I literally couldn't get out of my head.

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The soldier in Iraq. I think we need to tell

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this story in full because it illustrates just

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how broken the system can get. This is the case

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of Captain Michael Clower. This happened around

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2008, 2009. He was a captain in the Army Reserve

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and he was deployed to Iraq. He left his wife

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and kids back home in their house in Frisco,

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Texas. OK, so he is overseas serving the country,

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a combat zone. Right. And you have to understand,

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this house wasn't some underwater mortgage situation.

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They had paid cash for a significant portion

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of it. The home was worth about $300 ,000 and

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it was fully paid off. They had zero mortgage.

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They owned it free and clear. That's the American

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dream right there. A $300 ,000 asset, totally

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yours. While he was deployed in Iraq, his wife,

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who was at home with the kids, fell into a deep

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depression, which sadly isn't uncommon during

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these long deployments. She - just stopped functioning.

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She stopped opening the mail. Oh, no. And in

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that pile of unopened mail were notices from

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their HOA. They had missed a few dues payments.

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How much did they owe? What was the original

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debt? The original debt was roughly $800. $800.

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They have a $300 ,000 house free and clear, and

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they owe $800. Correct. The HOA tacked on late

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fees, then legal fees. The debt grew. They filed

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a lien. Then they initiated a nonjudicial foreclosure.

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They put an ad in the local paper and they auctioned

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off the house to collect the debt. So they actually

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sold the house for how much? This is the part

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that makes you gasp. They sold this $300 ,000

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home for approximately $3 ,500. Stop. $3 ,500.

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It's not even a typo. No typo. It was just enough

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to cover the debt, which had grown with legal

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fees, and the cost of the sale. The buyer, often

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it's investors who specialize in and prey on

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these auctions, got the deed to a $300 ,000 house

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for the price of a used Honda Civic. So the captain

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comes home from Iraq. He comes home from his

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tour, drives up to his house, and realizes he

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doesn't own it anymore. His family's home, their

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single biggest asset, their life savings had

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been completely wiped out. He had lost nearly

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$300 ,000 in equity over an $800 debt. That shouldn't

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be legal. I don't care what the contract says.

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That is fundamentally unjust. That is theft.

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It took a massive legal battle and national media

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outrage to get it fixed. He eventually got the

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home back, but largely because of a specific

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federal law, the Servicemembers Civil Relief

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Act, which gives special protections to active

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duty military against things like this. But here's

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the chilling part. What's that? If he had been

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a civilian, if he had been a plumber or a teacher

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who just got sick, had a medical emergency and

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missed the mail for a few months, he likely would

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have lost everything. There would have been no

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reason. course. That is absolutely haunting.

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The disproportionate nature of it, the punishment

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so vastly outweighs the crime. That is the power

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of the superlion that HOAs have in some states.

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The HOA debt can take priority over almost everything

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else. And while some states have reformed this,

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California, for instance, now has a threshold

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where you have to owe at least $1 ,800 or be

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12 months delinquent before they can foreclose.

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The basic mechanism still exists in many, many

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places. It really challenges this core. American

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idea of property rights. We think it's my land.

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But really, you're just a tenant with a very

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expensive buy -in fee. That's a valid way to

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look at it. And it's not just about the ultimate

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risk of losing the house. It's about your basic

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rights while you live there. We all learn about

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the Bill of Rights in school, freedom of speech,

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freedom of assembly. But those protect you from

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the government. Big G government. The state.

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Right. The Constitution says Congress shall make

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no law. It doesn't say the Maple Ridge Homeowners

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Association shall make no law. Since the HOA

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is a private corporation, a private contract

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you voluntarily entered, the courts have generally

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ruled that most constitutional protections do

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not apply. So if I want to put up a sign in my

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yard that says vote for Smith and the HOA rules

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say no political signs allowed, the First Amendment

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doesn't save me. In most cases, no. There was

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a famous case in New Jersey, the Twin Rivers

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case, where the state Supreme Court ultimately

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upheld restrictions on political signs. They

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said the private contract you signed outweighs

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your free speech interest in that specific context.

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Wow. There was another case, Lauren V. Sasser,

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where a court disallowed a challenge to a ban

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on for sale signs. They banned for sale signs.

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That seems completely counterintuitive if the

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goal is maintaining property values. The board's

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reasoning was that too many signs looked tacky

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and might signal that people were fleeing the

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neighborhood. And the court said, if you signed

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the deed, you agreed to the rule. Now, there

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are exceptions where the federal government has

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stepped in. Like what? The big one was satellite

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dishes. Oh, right. I remember this. In the 90s,

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everyone had those giant, ugly gray dishes on

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their roof. And HOAs across the country banned

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them universally. They said they were shittiest.

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But in 1996, the FCC passed a rule under the

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Telecommunications Act that specifically overrode

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those private bans. Why? They argued that access

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to broadcast information was a national interest.

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So they said an HOA cannot ban a satellite dish

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that's under one meter. They can have reasonable

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rules about placement. Like you can't put it

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in the middle of your front lawn, but they can't

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ban them outright. If I watch CNN, I just can't

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put a sign in my yard telling people what I watched.

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Effectively, yes. And then you have the landscaping

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wars. This is the new frontier of HOA battles,

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specifically xeriscaping. Which is using native

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plants, rocks, cactus stuff that doesn't need

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a ton of water. Right. In states in the West

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like Colorado or Arizona or Texas, you have massive

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persistent droughts. Water is a precious resource.

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resource. So residents want to tear out their

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thirsty turf grass and replace it with beautiful,

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water -saving native landscapes. Makes perfect

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sense. But the HOA says no. The bylaws, written

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in 1985, say you must have 75 percent of your

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front yard covered in Kentucky bluegrass. We

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demand you waste thousands of gallons of water

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so the neighborhood can look like an English

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countryside. Oh, exactly. And this has turned

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into a huge legislative fight. States are now

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passing laws to overrule the HOAs. Florida passed

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laws protecting Florida -friendly landscaping.

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Texas and Colorado have passed laws saying HOAs

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cannot ban xeriscaping completely. But it is

00:24:21.470 --> 00:24:23.549
a constant tug -of -war between the aesthetic

00:24:23.549 --> 00:24:26.589
control of the HOA and the environmental reality

00:24:26.589 --> 00:24:28.529
of the region. It seems like the core mission

00:24:28.529 --> 00:24:31.089
of the HOA is always to fight change and keep

00:24:31.089 --> 00:24:33.029
the neighborhood frozen in time. That is their

00:24:33.029 --> 00:24:35.490
mandate, preserve and protect property values.

00:24:35.690 --> 00:24:37.710
And the operating assumption, right or wrong,

00:24:37.769 --> 00:24:40.309
is that uniformity equals value. Okay, so if

00:24:40.309 --> 00:24:42.420
these things are such a headache, If they can

00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:44.740
take your house, silence your speech, and force

00:24:44.740 --> 00:24:47.140
you to water your lawn during a drought, why

00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:48.920
do they keep growing? Why doesn't the market

00:24:48.920 --> 00:24:51.339
just say, no thanks? Because the market isn't

00:24:51.339 --> 00:24:53.319
the only player here. And homeowners aren't the

00:24:53.319 --> 00:24:56.059
only customers. We have to talk about the economics

00:24:56.059 --> 00:24:58.460
of the city. If you are a mayor or a city council

00:24:58.460 --> 00:25:01.740
member, you love HOAs. They are your best friend.

00:25:02.599 --> 00:25:05.119
Why? I would think they'd be a constant source

00:25:05.119 --> 00:25:07.400
of complaints for the city to deal with. Think

00:25:07.400 --> 00:25:10.009
about the city budget. If a developer comes to

00:25:10.009 --> 00:25:12.910
you and wants to build 500 new homes, that's

00:25:12.910 --> 00:25:15.589
500 new families using the library, the schools,

00:25:15.829 --> 00:25:18.910
the police, the fire department. That costs the

00:25:18.910 --> 00:25:21.690
city money. Sure. More services are needed. But

00:25:21.690 --> 00:25:24.549
if those 500 homes are in a private HOA development,

00:25:24.990 --> 00:25:27.410
the developer builds the roads inside the community.

00:25:27.589 --> 00:25:30.089
The developer builds the sewer lines. The developer

00:25:30.089 --> 00:25:33.569
builds the park and the pool. And then the HOA

00:25:33.569 --> 00:25:35.710
takes over the maintenance of all that infrastructure

00:25:35.710 --> 00:25:38.519
forever. So the city doesn't have to send a plow

00:25:38.519 --> 00:25:41.019
truck to plow those streets in the winter. Never.

00:25:41.099 --> 00:25:43.519
The city doesn't have to pave the potholes. The

00:25:43.519 --> 00:25:45.680
city doesn't have to mow the park. The city doesn't

00:25:45.680 --> 00:25:47.680
have to pay the electric bill for the streetlights.

00:25:48.599 --> 00:25:51.759
But, and here's the key, the city still collects

00:25:51.759 --> 00:25:54.980
the full property tax from those 500 homes. Wait,

00:25:55.079 --> 00:25:57.599
let's do the math on that. I pay property taxes.

00:25:57.880 --> 00:25:59.920
A big chunk of that is supposed to be for public

00:25:59.920 --> 00:26:02.799
works, right? Maintaining roads and parks. Correct.

00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:05.559
That's a huge part of any municipal budget. So

00:26:05.559 --> 00:26:08.779
I pay my... say $5 ,000 in property tax to the

00:26:08.779 --> 00:26:12.079
city, but the city isn't fixing my road because

00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:14.240
it's a private road. So then I have to pay another

00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:17.980
$2 ,000 a year in HOA dues to a private fund

00:26:17.980 --> 00:26:20.640
to fix the road I actually live on. That is the

00:26:20.640 --> 00:26:22.980
double taxation argument in a nutshell. You are

00:26:22.980 --> 00:26:25.539
paying full municipal taxes for public services

00:26:25.539 --> 00:26:27.759
you aren't using because you live behind a gate,

00:26:27.880 --> 00:26:30.240
and you are paying HOA assessments for the private

00:26:30.240 --> 00:26:33.059
services you are using. So I'm effectively subsidizing

00:26:33.059 --> 00:26:35.319
the rest of the city. My tax dollars are paving

00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:37.299
the road downtown, but I have to pay out of my

00:26:37.299 --> 00:26:40.180
own pocket a second time to pave my own street.

00:26:40.319 --> 00:26:43.500
Yes. And cities are very aware of this. That

00:26:43.500 --> 00:26:45.779
is why many municipalities have changed their

00:26:45.779 --> 00:26:48.220
zoning codes to actually require new developments

00:26:48.220 --> 00:26:52.420
to be HOAs. It is a massive, permanent offloading

00:26:52.420 --> 00:26:54.759
of infrastructure liability from the public balance

00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.140
sheet to a private one. It's free money for the

00:26:57.140 --> 00:26:59.579
city. But this must do something to us socially,

00:26:59.740 --> 00:27:02.180
right? If I'm paying for my own private road

00:27:02.180 --> 00:27:04.299
and my own private security guard and my own

00:27:04.299 --> 00:27:08.559
private park, why would I ever vote? for a tax

00:27:08.559 --> 00:27:10.819
increase to fix the public park on the other

00:27:10.819 --> 00:27:13.240
side of town. You've just hit on the most profound

00:27:13.240 --> 00:27:16.259
sociological problem. It's called the privatization

00:27:16.259 --> 00:27:19.559
of the public realm. There was a major study

00:27:19.559 --> 00:27:23.200
in 2009 looking at California HOAs that suggested

00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.670
exactly what you fear is true. What did it find?

00:27:26.950 --> 00:27:29.609
It found that residents in these private governments

00:27:29.609 --> 00:27:32.250
are significantly less likely to support public

00:27:32.250 --> 00:27:35.109
services and public spending. They have, in effect,

00:27:35.269 --> 00:27:38.049
seceded from the broader civic contract. It's,

00:27:38.049 --> 00:27:39.869
I got mine, I built a gate, good luck to the

00:27:39.869 --> 00:27:42.150
rest of you. It fragments the community. Instead

00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:44.269
of being citizens of a town, we become members

00:27:44.269 --> 00:27:47.130
of dozens of little private clubs. But to play

00:27:47.130 --> 00:27:49.329
devil's advocate for a moment, we have to look

00:27:49.329 --> 00:27:52.150
at the financial upside for the homeowner. Because

00:27:52.150 --> 00:27:54.920
there is one. Okay, what is it? Statistically,

00:27:55.079 --> 00:27:56.859
the model works at what it's supposed to do.

00:27:57.019 --> 00:27:59.980
A 2019 study in the Journal of Labor Economics

00:27:59.980 --> 00:28:03.440
showed that homes in HOAs sell for a premium

00:28:03.440 --> 00:28:07.079
on average, about 4 % more. That translated to

00:28:07.079 --> 00:28:10.380
roughly $13 ,500 on the average home at the time

00:28:10.380 --> 00:28:12.400
of the study. So the property value argument

00:28:12.400 --> 00:28:14.839
is real. The market does reward that uniformity.

00:28:14.940 --> 00:28:17.519
It is real. The market values that predictability.

00:28:17.660 --> 00:28:19.799
It values the guarantee that there won't be a

00:28:19.799 --> 00:28:23.000
rusty car on blocks on the lawn next door. But

00:28:23.000 --> 00:28:25.259
the study also noted a very important correlation,

00:28:25.579 --> 00:28:28.099
that premium is highest in areas with higher

00:28:28.099 --> 00:28:30.559
levels of racial segregation and stricter land

00:28:30.559 --> 00:28:32.960
use regulation. So you're paying a premium for

00:28:32.960 --> 00:28:34.960
exclusion. You're paying for the gate, whether

00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:36.880
it's physical or economic. That's what the data

00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:39.539
suggests. Yes. But even if the value stays high

00:28:39.539 --> 00:28:42.400
on paper. There is a huge amount of financial

00:28:42.400 --> 00:28:45.720
risk inside the HOA. We talked about foreclosure,

00:28:45.819 --> 00:28:47.920
but I want to talk about mismanagement because

00:28:47.920 --> 00:28:50.140
these boards, as we said, are volunteers handling

00:28:50.140 --> 00:28:52.660
millions and millions of dollars. Oh, the financial

00:28:52.660 --> 00:28:55.740
risk is massive and it's often invisible until

00:28:55.740 --> 00:28:58.559
it's too late. Everyone focuses on the monthly

00:28:58.559 --> 00:29:02.769
dues. Can I afford $200 a month? But they forget

00:29:02.769 --> 00:29:05.809
to ask about the special assessment. The dreaded

00:29:05.809 --> 00:29:08.150
special assessment. Imagine you live in a high

00:29:08.150 --> 00:29:11.329
-rise condo building. The roof is 30 years old.

00:29:11.390 --> 00:29:13.990
It starts leaking. The engineers come out and

00:29:13.990 --> 00:29:16.490
say it needs a full replacement. The cost is

00:29:16.490 --> 00:29:20.950
$1 million. Okay, a big number. A well -run HOA

00:29:20.950 --> 00:29:23.950
has something called a reserve fund. They should

00:29:23.950 --> 00:29:26.130
have been doing a reserve study every few years

00:29:26.130 --> 00:29:28.089
to predict this. They should have been saving

00:29:28.089 --> 00:29:29.990
a little bit of money every single month for

00:29:29.990 --> 00:29:33.069
30 years so that when the roof inevitably fails,

00:29:33.269 --> 00:29:35.390
the million dollars is sitting there in the bank

00:29:35.390 --> 00:29:38.029
ready to go. That makes sense. Like a savings

00:29:38.029 --> 00:29:40.029
account for the building. It is. But remember,

00:29:40.210 --> 00:29:41.849
board members are elected by their neighbors.

00:29:42.069 --> 00:29:44.089
Nobody gets elected by running on a platform

00:29:44.089 --> 00:29:46.349
of I'm going to raise your dues to save for a

00:29:46.349 --> 00:29:48.750
roof that we'll need in 2040. No, they get elected

00:29:48.750 --> 00:29:51.589
by saying I'll keep dues low. Exactly. So for

00:29:51.589 --> 00:29:53.910
20 years, they kick the can down the road, they

00:29:53.910 --> 00:29:56.109
underfund the reserves, and then the roof fails.

00:29:56.470 --> 00:29:59.549
The bank account is empty. The board has no choice

00:29:59.549 --> 00:30:01.650
but to levy a special assessment. They send a

00:30:01.650 --> 00:30:04.230
letter to every homeowner saying, we need $1

00:30:04.230 --> 00:30:07.150
million. There are 100 units in this building.

00:30:07.329 --> 00:30:10.309
Your share is $10 ,000. It's due in 30 days.

00:30:10.609 --> 00:30:13.710
Yeah. Can they do that? Just demand 10 grand

00:30:13.710 --> 00:30:16.519
with a month's notice. If it is necessary for

00:30:16.519 --> 00:30:18.619
the health and safety and maintenance of the

00:30:18.619 --> 00:30:21.480
property, yes. In California, for example, there

00:30:21.480 --> 00:30:23.400
is a rule that normally requires a membership

00:30:23.400 --> 00:30:25.579
vote for very large assessments, but there's

00:30:25.579 --> 00:30:28.589
a huge loophole. If it is an emergency related

00:30:28.589 --> 00:30:31.049
to safety and a failing roof or a broken sewer

00:30:31.049 --> 00:30:33.390
line is definitely an emergency, the board can

00:30:33.390 --> 00:30:35.190
often bypass the vote and just send the bill.

00:30:35.349 --> 00:30:37.390
And if you're a retiree on a fixed income and

00:30:37.390 --> 00:30:39.750
you don't have $10 ,000 sitting in your savings

00:30:39.750 --> 00:30:42.109
account. Then you are delinquent. Then comes

00:30:42.109 --> 00:30:45.009
the lien. Then comes the foreclosure. We saw

00:30:45.009 --> 00:30:47.269
this happen on a massive scale after the tragic

00:30:47.269 --> 00:30:49.869
Surfside condo collapse in Florida. Suddenly,

00:30:49.869 --> 00:30:52.250
every condo board in the country got terrified

00:30:52.250 --> 00:30:54.829
and started actually inspecting their buildings.

00:30:54.950 --> 00:30:57.180
And they found decades. of deferred maintenance.

00:30:57.519 --> 00:31:00.160
They started demanding huge assessments to fix

00:31:00.160 --> 00:31:02.440
structural issues they had ignored for years.

00:31:02.740 --> 00:31:05.160
People on fixed incomes were suddenly hit with

00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:09.200
bills for $50 ,000, $100 ,000 or more. It forces

00:31:09.200 --> 00:31:11.720
people out of their homes. It absolutely does

00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:13.880
and that doesn't even touch the issue of outright

00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.099
fraud. You have volunteer treasurers with little

00:31:17.099 --> 00:31:20.279
oversight managing these massive funds. The temptation

00:31:20.279 --> 00:31:23.160
is real. I assume they get audited, right? Like

00:31:23.160 --> 00:31:25.579
any business. They should. But most homeowners

00:31:25.579 --> 00:31:28.000
don't have the financial literacy to understand

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:30.380
what they are looking at. When an auditor looks

00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:32.799
at the books, they issue an opinion. And the

00:31:32.799 --> 00:31:35.660
terminology is completely counterintuitive. You

00:31:35.660 --> 00:31:38.619
want to see an unqualified opinion. Unqualified

00:31:38.619 --> 00:31:41.640
sounds bad. Like you are unqualified to do this

00:31:41.640 --> 00:31:43.900
job. It is the exact opposite. In accounting

00:31:43.900 --> 00:31:46.480
speak, unqualified means without qualification

00:31:46.480 --> 00:31:49.079
or reservation. It means the books are clean.

00:31:49.220 --> 00:31:51.380
We have no complaints. That is the gold star.

00:31:51.539 --> 00:31:53.920
Okay. So unqualified is good. Got it. What you

00:31:53.920 --> 00:31:55.680
need to watch out for is a qualified opinion.

00:31:55.900 --> 00:31:57.660
That sounds reassuring, like, hey, this is a

00:31:57.660 --> 00:32:00.240
qualified professional. But in auditing, it means

00:32:00.240 --> 00:32:02.759
everything looks OK except for this one messy

00:32:02.759 --> 00:32:05.640
area we couldn't verify. It's a huge red flag

00:32:05.640 --> 00:32:07.819
and an adverse opinion is the worst. It means

00:32:07.819 --> 00:32:11.299
these books are a disaster. I would bet 99 percent

00:32:11.299 --> 00:32:13.779
of homeowners have never looked at their HOA's

00:32:13.779 --> 00:32:15.900
annual audit opinion. Most don't even know it

00:32:15.900 --> 00:32:18.680
exists or that they have a right to see it. The

00:32:18.680 --> 00:32:21.859
AARP, the seniors advocacy group, actually flagged

00:32:21.859 --> 00:32:24.559
this years ago. In 2006, they proposed a homeowner's

00:32:24.559 --> 00:32:26.700
bill of rights because they saw so many seniors

00:32:26.700 --> 00:32:28.880
losing their life savings in their homes due

00:32:28.880 --> 00:32:31.019
to rogue boards and financial mismanagement.

00:32:31.279 --> 00:32:33.759
It is a consumer protection black hole. We've

00:32:33.759 --> 00:32:36.000
covered a lot of the heavy, scary stuff, the

00:32:36.000 --> 00:32:38.420
racism, the foreclosure, the financial ruin.

00:32:38.539 --> 00:32:41.119
I want to pivot now to the almost philosophical

00:32:41.119 --> 00:32:44.480
side of this, this idea of the common good versus

00:32:44.480 --> 00:32:47.140
individual liberty. And there is a famous legal

00:32:47.140 --> 00:32:51.059
case that involves cats. Ah, yes. Narset v. Lakeside

00:32:51.059 --> 00:32:54.369
Village Condominium. Association, 1994. This

00:32:54.369 --> 00:32:56.910
is the bedrock case for modern HOA law, especially

00:32:56.910 --> 00:32:59.490
in California, but its influence is felt everywhere.

00:32:59.809 --> 00:33:03.049
Tell me about Mrs. Narstedt and her cats. So

00:33:03.049 --> 00:33:05.869
Natura Narstedt moved into a condo in Culver

00:33:05.869 --> 00:33:09.309
City, California. She had three cats. The HOA

00:33:09.309 --> 00:33:12.049
had a very clear blanket restriction in its CC

00:33:12.049 --> 00:33:16.049
&amp;Rs. No pets, no dogs, no cats, nothing. Seems

00:33:16.049 --> 00:33:19.259
clear enough. But she decided to fight it. She

00:33:19.259 --> 00:33:21.640
fought it. Her argument was very logical. She

00:33:21.640 --> 00:33:24.339
said, my cats are indoor cats. They never go

00:33:24.339 --> 00:33:26.740
outside. They never touch the common areas. They're

00:33:26.740 --> 00:33:29.619
quiet. They don't smell. They don't bother a

00:33:29.619 --> 00:33:32.740
single soul in this entire development. She argued

00:33:32.740 --> 00:33:34.740
that the restriction, therefore, was unreasonable

00:33:34.740 --> 00:33:38.220
as it was applied to her specific situation because

00:33:38.220 --> 00:33:40.480
her cats were causing absolutely no harm to the

00:33:40.480 --> 00:33:42.720
common interest. That sounds incredibly logical.

00:33:42.779 --> 00:33:45.059
It's the classic, if I'm not hurting you or your

00:33:45.059 --> 00:33:47.549
property. Why can't I do what I want in the privacy

00:33:47.549 --> 00:33:50.329
of my own home? It does. But the California Supreme

00:33:50.329 --> 00:33:52.710
Court disagreed with her. They ruled against

00:33:52.710 --> 00:33:54.849
her, and their reasoning is what set the precedent.

00:33:55.190 --> 00:33:58.049
They said that the reasonableness of a rule isn't

00:33:58.049 --> 00:34:00.750
determined by the individual case. It's determined

00:34:00.750 --> 00:34:03.049
by whether the rule in general serves a legitimate

00:34:03.049 --> 00:34:05.170
purpose for the community. So they don't look

00:34:05.170 --> 00:34:07.130
at the facts on the ground, just the rule on

00:34:07.130 --> 00:34:10.260
the page. Correct. And more importantly, they

00:34:10.260 --> 00:34:13.079
wrote that when you buy into a CID, a common

00:34:13.079 --> 00:34:15.639
interest development, you are consciously agreeing

00:34:15.639 --> 00:34:18.199
to sacrifice a certain amount of individual freedom

00:34:18.199 --> 00:34:20.519
in exchange for the predictability and stability

00:34:20.519 --> 00:34:23.940
of the collective contract. So they prioritized

00:34:23.940 --> 00:34:26.639
the sanctity of the written contract over...

00:34:26.880 --> 00:34:29.659
The actual reality of her situation. Precisely.

00:34:29.659 --> 00:34:31.760
They basically said, if we let you keep your

00:34:31.760 --> 00:34:34.400
quiet cats, then we open the door to having to

00:34:34.400 --> 00:34:37.099
investigate every pet to see if it's quiet. That

00:34:37.099 --> 00:34:40.860
is chaos. A blanket rule, even if it seems harsh

00:34:40.860 --> 00:34:43.219
in one case, is enforceable because it provides

00:34:43.219 --> 00:34:46.199
certainty for everyone. And that ruling is why

00:34:46.199 --> 00:34:49.099
we have the endless laundry list of seemingly

00:34:49.099 --> 00:34:52.360
absurd restrictions today. Yes. That is the legal

00:34:52.360 --> 00:34:54.460
principle that allows an HOA to tell you what

00:34:54.460 --> 00:34:57.159
color your front door must be. Or that your curtains

00:34:57.159 --> 00:34:59.239
have to be white on the side that faces the street.

00:34:59.420 --> 00:35:01.579
Or that you can't park a work truck in your own

00:35:01.579 --> 00:35:03.820
driveway. Oh, the work truck thing drives me

00:35:03.820 --> 00:35:06.719
crazy. I had a buddy, a plumber. He had a nice,

00:35:06.719 --> 00:35:09.000
clean, white van with his company logo on the

00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:11.530
side. The HOA said he couldn't park it in his

00:35:11.530 --> 00:35:13.349
own driveway overnight because it was a commercial

00:35:13.349 --> 00:35:15.829
vehicle. It's an incredibly common rule, and

00:35:15.829 --> 00:35:18.670
it's a class issue, honestly. It implies that

00:35:18.670 --> 00:35:21.429
the site of a working class vehicle is unsightly

00:35:21.429 --> 00:35:24.289
and lowers property values. He had to park his

00:35:24.289 --> 00:35:27.309
work truck, which contained all his tools, three

00:35:27.309 --> 00:35:29.630
blocks away at a shopping center, and walk home

00:35:29.630 --> 00:35:32.449
every single night. It's absurd. But under the

00:35:32.449 --> 00:35:35.429
Narset principle, it is perfectly legal. The

00:35:35.429 --> 00:35:37.929
community decided in their contract that they

00:35:37.929 --> 00:35:40.769
didn't want to look at logos. He signed the deed

00:35:40.769 --> 00:35:43.750
and so he agreed to it. It creates a de facto

00:35:43.750 --> 00:35:46.170
municipal government without any of the constitutional

00:35:46.170 --> 00:35:48.989
restraints. So is there any way out of this?

00:35:49.050 --> 00:35:51.349
Are there any alternative models being discussed?

00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:54.199
Or is this just the future of housing in America

00:35:54.199 --> 00:35:56.179
forever? Well, there are people trying to rethink

00:35:56.179 --> 00:35:58.920
it. It's not mainstream yet, but there is a concept

00:35:58.920 --> 00:36:02.239
called MTIP, multiple tenant income property.

00:36:02.360 --> 00:36:04.320
That sounds like an even more boring acronym

00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.019
than the last one we talked about. It does. But

00:36:07.019 --> 00:36:09.179
the concept behind it is interesting. It's essentially

00:36:09.179 --> 00:36:13.219
a great landlord model. Instead of breaking up

00:36:13.219 --> 00:36:16.099
all the common areas, the roads, the parks, the

00:36:16.099 --> 00:36:18.860
pool, and giving them to a nonprofit association

00:36:18.860 --> 00:36:22.099
run by bickering neighbors. Right. The common

00:36:22.099 --> 00:36:24.679
infrastructure is owned and managed by a single

00:36:24.679 --> 00:36:27.820
professional company or a landlord who collects

00:36:27.820 --> 00:36:30.559
ground rent from everyone. So it's more like

00:36:30.559 --> 00:36:33.659
a high end apartment complex model or even a

00:36:33.659 --> 00:36:35.949
mobile home park model. But for single family

00:36:35.949 --> 00:36:39.110
homes. Exactly. The argument is this. An HOA

00:36:39.110 --> 00:36:41.829
board is made up of transient volunteer neighbors.

00:36:42.210 --> 00:36:44.530
They might be petty. They might be incompetent.

00:36:44.530 --> 00:36:46.610
They might have a personal vendetta against you

00:36:46.610 --> 00:36:48.329
and they might move away in two years. They have

00:36:48.329 --> 00:36:51.409
no real long term incentive to be good at customer

00:36:51.409 --> 00:36:53.369
service or asset management. Right. Their goal

00:36:53.369 --> 00:36:56.789
is to wield power or keep costs low for the short

00:36:56.789 --> 00:36:58.949
time they are there. But a professional landlord.

00:36:59.579 --> 00:37:01.579
a professional owner who wants to collect rent

00:37:01.579 --> 00:37:05.099
for the next 50 years. They have a powerful financial

00:37:05.099 --> 00:37:07.880
incentive to keep the residents happy, to maintain

00:37:07.880 --> 00:37:10.300
the property well, to respond to complaints.

00:37:10.820 --> 00:37:13.960
They treat the residents as customers they want

00:37:13.960 --> 00:37:16.900
to retain rather than subjects they need to control.

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So you trade your vote, which, as we've established,

00:37:20.440 --> 00:37:22.860
isn't worth much anyway in many cases for better,

00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:25.159
more professional customer service. That's the

00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:27.909
theory. But it hasn't really caught on for single

00:37:27.909 --> 00:37:30.550
-family homes yet. The ownership myth is just

00:37:30.550 --> 00:37:33.150
too strong in the American psyche. People want

00:37:33.150 --> 00:37:35.739
to believe they own the dirt. Even if that ownership

00:37:35.739 --> 00:37:38.860
is heavily, heavily restricted. It is a powerful

00:37:38.860 --> 00:37:41.019
myth. Yeah. So let's try to land this plane.

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We have moved from 19th century racial covenants.

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To post -war FHA policies that encouraged suburban

00:37:47.219 --> 00:37:49.840
sprawl. To, of all things, environmental laws

00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:52.099
that forced us to build retention ponds. Which

00:37:52.099 --> 00:37:54.260
created the corporate structures that now govern,

00:37:54.420 --> 00:37:57.199
what, 25 million homes and counting? It is a

00:37:57.199 --> 00:38:00.610
massive self -perpetuating machine. And it does

00:38:00.610 --> 00:38:02.730
create value. We have to admit that. The lawns

00:38:02.730 --> 00:38:05.250
look nice. The pools are generally clean. There's

00:38:05.250 --> 00:38:08.070
a predictable order to it. But the cost is a

00:38:08.070 --> 00:38:10.789
fundamental surrender of rights. It is a shift

00:38:10.789 --> 00:38:13.329
from public government with its checks and balances

00:38:13.329 --> 00:38:16.409
and constitutional protections to private government,

00:38:16.530 --> 00:38:21.159
which is often authoritarian, arbitrary. It makes

00:38:21.159 --> 00:38:23.039
you look at those little gatehouses at the front

00:38:23.039 --> 00:38:24.960
of subdivisions differently. It's not just a

00:38:24.960 --> 00:38:27.260
security feature. It's a border crossing into

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a different legal territory. It is. And I think

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the big provocative question that listeners need

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:35.360
to ask themselves is this. We are seeing a trend

00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.000
where municipalities are offloading more and

00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:40.800
more of their traditional responsibilities. Roads,

00:38:40.800 --> 00:38:43.199
parks, sewers, sometimes even trash collection.

00:38:43.619 --> 00:38:46.539
If this trend continues, are we witnessing the

00:38:46.539 --> 00:38:48.639
end of the public neighborhood as a concept?

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And personally, for you, the listener, ask yourself

00:38:57.280 --> 00:39:00.940
this. If your neighbor, just the guy next door

00:39:00.940 --> 00:39:02.719
who got elected to the board because nobody else

00:39:02.719 --> 00:39:05.320
wanted the job, has the legal power to take your

00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:07.719
home and sell it for $3 ,500 without a judge

00:39:07.719 --> 00:39:10.880
ever being involved, is it really your home?

00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:13.079
Or are you just a shareholder in a corporation

00:39:13.079 --> 00:39:15.119
that grants you the privilege of sleeping there?

00:39:15.280 --> 00:39:18.380
Wow. I am definitely going to go home and check

00:39:18.380 --> 00:39:20.860
my mailbox for violation notices. This has been

00:39:20.860 --> 00:39:22.639
a true deep dive. Thanks for listening, everyone.
