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I want you to picture a specific image. It's

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arguably one of the most famous or maybe infamous

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images in American political history. A man in

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a T -shirt, wearing sunglasses, sitting on a

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dock. Maybe there's a boat involved. And the

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name of that boat is monkey business. It's the

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punchline that defined a whole decade. I mean,

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if you stop someone on the street and say, Gary

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Hart, that is the immediate association. That's

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it. The blonde woman, the boat, the scandal,

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the, you know, the total fall from grace. Right.

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It's the moment political journalism just turned

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into something, I don't know, something different.

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But here is the paradox. And it is a really jarring

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one. If you leave that dock and fast forward

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to the first week of September. 2001, specifically

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September 6th, you find that same man, the punchline,

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sitting in a meeting with a national security

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advisor of the United States. And he isn't talking

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about scandals. He's predicting with like a terrifying

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specificity that a massive terrorist attack is

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about to happen on U .S. soil. It is one of those

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historical what -ifs that just keeps you up at

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night. You have a man who was, well, arguably

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the most forward -thinking political strategist

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of his generation, completely sidelined by a

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sex scandal. Completely. And there he is trying

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to warn the government about 9 -11 literally

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five days before it happened. So today we're

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doing a deep dive into the life and career of

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Gary Hart. And the mission here is. Quite specific.

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We aren't here to just rehash the gossip for

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the sake of gossip. We have a massive stack of

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sources here. Senate records, biographical files,

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declassified commission reports. We're going

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to unpack how a farm boy from Kansas became the

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Atari Democrat, analyze the exact timeline of

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the scandal that destroyed him because the popular

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story is actually wrong, and look at those warnings

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he gave in 2001. And I think the key here is

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to view Hart not just as a failed politician,

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but as a case study in how American politics

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has evolved. He really bridges the gap. I mean,

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he started in the era of smoke filled rooms and

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he ended up as the first casualty of the 24 hour

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news cycle. He's patient zero. He is patient

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zero for modern political media. Absolutely.

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He didn't just see the rules change. In a lot

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of ways, he. broke the old rules and kind of

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forced the new ones into existence. Yeah. But

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to understand the fall, we have to understand

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the ascent. And looking at his early life, the

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first thing that struck me in the biographical

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data is that Gary Hart didn't actually exist

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for the first 25 years of his life. No, he didn't.

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He was born Gary Warren Hartpence. Hartpence.

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That's a mouthful. It is. In Ottawa, Kansas,

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his father was a farm equipment salesman. It

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was a pretty modest, you know, very religious

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upbringing in the heartland. That name change

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is really the first clue to his character. It

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wasn't some Hollywood stage name. In 1961, Gary

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and his father actually went to the courthouse

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together to change the family name. Together.

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That's interesting. Yeah. And the reasoning they

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gave was just incredibly pragmatic. Hart is just

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easier to remember and spell than Hartpence.

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Which is true from a branding perspective. I

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mean, Senator Hartpence sounds a bit. A little

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stuffy, yeah. But it does suggest a certain level

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of calculation, doesn't it? Even at a young age,

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this idea of streamlining your own identity.

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Absolutely. It speaks to a desire for efficiency.

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And you see that pivot in his education as well.

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He went to Southern Nazarene University, a very

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strict religious school. And then he goes on

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to Yale Divinity School. So he was on a track

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to become a minister or a philosopher. Right.

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He wanted to save souls. But then... Almost abruptly,

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he graduates in 1961 and literally walks across

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the campus to enroll in Yale Law School. The

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shift from the laws of God. To the laws of men.

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Exactly. And while the sources don't give us,

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you know, a diary entry explaining the exact

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moment of the decision, the trajectory shifts

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from spiritual leadership to practical systemic

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leadership. He goes to work for the Department

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of Justice, then the Department of the Interior.

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Pretty standard stuff. But the moment where he

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stops being a bureaucrat and starts being a political

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architect is 1972. The George McGovern campaign.

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Now, historically, McGovern is, of course, remembered

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for losing to Nixon in one of the biggest landslides

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ever. A total wipeout. But the primary campaign,

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that was something else entirely. And Hart was

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the campaign director. This is where we have

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to get into the weeds a little bit of how American

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politics actually works, because Hart effectively

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hacked the system. He really did. Before 1972,

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the Democratic nominee was largely chosen by

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party bosses. You know, the mayor dailies of

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the world. The guys in the smoke -filled rooms.

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Exactly. But after the... Just the chaos of the

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1968 convention in Chicago, the party opened

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up the process. They created this new, really

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complex system of primaries and caucuses. And

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most of the old guard, the establishment, they

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didn't really understand the new rulebook. Correct.

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But Gary Hart and his colleague Rick Stearns

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did. They looked at the new rules and treated

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them like a logic puzzle. They realized that

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while all the big names, Muskie, Humphrey, were

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fighting over the expensive primary states with

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TV ads and big rallies. Spending all the money.

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There were 28 states that held caucuses. OK,

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so for you, the listener who might not know,

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what is the functional difference there that

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Hart was able to exploit? It's a great question.

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A primary is simple voting. You walk in, you

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pull a lever or fill out a bubble, you leave.

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A caucus is a meeting. It's a commitment. It's

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a huge commitment. It requires neighbors talking

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to neighbors in a school gym for hours. It requires

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time. And most importantly, organization. Hart

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realized that caucuses were cheap in terms of

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dollars, but really expensive in terms of effort.

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So he built a grassroots army. A huge one. They

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focused on these completely ignored states, organizing

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thousands of volunteers to show up at these meetings

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on a Tuesday night in, you know, Iowa or Nebraska.

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It was a moneyball approach to politics way before

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that term existed. They were looking for undervalued

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assets on the political map. Precisely. And it

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worked. McGovern just swept the nomination, shocking

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the entire establishment. Now, the general election

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was a disaster. We know that. But inside the

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party, Gary Hart walked away with this reputation

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as a whiz kid. He was the guy who saw the Matrix.

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And he didn't waste any time cashing in on that

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reputation. Yeah. Just two years later, 1974,

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he moves to Colorado and runs for the U .S. Senate.

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And his timing was impeccable. I mean, 1974 is

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the year of Watergate. Of course. The Republican

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brand was just radioactive. Hart ran against

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an incumbent, Peter Dominick, who had not only

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supported Nixon, but was also suffering from

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some health issues. So Hart runs as the fresh

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face, the outsider, the reformer. And he wins

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in a landslide 57 .2 percent of the vote. Huge

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margin. So now he is Senator Hart. And looking

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at his Senate record in the provided files, he

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wasn't a backbencher. He seemed to gravitate

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toward the heavy, complex committees almost immediately.

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Oh, he was incredibly active. He landed a seat

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on the Church Committee. For those not familiar

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with 70s history, the Church Committee was a

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massive, massive investigation into the intelligence

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abuses of the CIA, the NSA, the FBI. This was

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really dark stuff. Oh, yeah. They were looking

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into assassination plots, illegal domestic surveillance

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on anti -war protesters. This is where Hart gets

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his first deep exposure to the national security

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apparatus, and it clearly shapes him. And then

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there's the Three Mile Island incident in 1979.

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There's a detail in the source material that

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I found pretty wild. He wasn't just reading reports

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about the nuclear meltdown. Yeah. He was physically

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there. He was the chairman of the Subcommittee

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on Nuclear Regulation. So when the reactor accident

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happened, he didn't manage it from a desk in

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D .C. No. He flew to Pennsylvania and went up

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in an Army helicopter directly over the reactor

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to assess the situation while the crisis was

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still unfolding. That's incredible. It showed

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a kind of physical courage and a hands -on style

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that really separated him from the typical lawyer

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-politician archetype. But the label that really

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came to define him, and the one that I think

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is most interesting for us, to unpack is Atari

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Democrat. Right. Sounds so retro now, like calling

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someone a Betamax Republican. Right. But in the

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context of the early 80s, what was he trying

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to signal with that term? It was a declaration

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of a new kind of liberalism. You have to remember,

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the Democratic Party of the 1970s and 80s was

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still built on the New Deal coalition. Heavy

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industry, big labor unions, protectionism. The

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Rust Belt. The Rust Belt, exactly. Hart looked

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at the world and saw the information age coming.

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Atari Democrat meant a moderate who believed

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the government should partner with the tech sector,

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encourage entrepreneurship and move away from

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that old industrial reliance. It was about shifting

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the focus from steel mills to silicon ships.

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That's the perfect way to put it. And he backed

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it up with legislation. He co -sponsored the

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Semiconductor Chip Protection Act of 1984. What

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did that do? Why was that a big deal? Well, it

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was a landmark bill. Before this, you could basically

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take a computer chip, photograph the layout of

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the transistors, what they call the mask work,

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and just clone it. There was no intellectual

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property protection for the physical design of

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a chip. So it was the Wild West for tech. Totally.

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And Hart helped create a new category of IP law.

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specifically to protect Silicon Valley from foreign

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copycats. He was thinking about this stuff years

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before most people in Washington even knew what

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a microchip was. So he's identifying the economic

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future of the country. He's a military reformer

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pushing for smaller, more mobile units rather

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than massive battleships. He's checking all these

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visionary boxes. But politically, he almost flamed

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out in 1980. Oh, it was a very close call. 1980

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was the Reagan revolution. Republicans swept

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the country. Hart barely, and I mean barely,

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held onto a seat in Colorado. How close was it?

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He won by roughly 1%, just over 19 ,000 votes.

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His opponent, Mary Estill Buchanan, attacked

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him as a McGovernate carpetbagger, trying to

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tie him to the old left, saying he was too liberal

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for Colorado. And what was the specific attack

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line? A lot of it centered on his support for

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the Panama Canal treaties, which was seen as

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giving away the canal. It was a very effective

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conservative talking point at the time. So that

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close call spooked him. It had to. He realized

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that if he wanted to be president, he couldn't

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just be the smart guy or the ideas guy. He needed

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to be the tough guy, too. Which brings us to

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a very strange chapter in his biography, The

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Naval Reserve. This feels like a subplot that

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a scriptwriter would add to make a character

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more complex. But in real life, it just seems...

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Odd. It is very peculiar. Why does a sitting

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United States senator in his 40s decide to join

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the Navy? It's a great question. The stated reason,

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which Hart has always maintained, is that he

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didn't feel comfortable voting on military matters,

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specifically the potential for conflict in the

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Persian Gulf, without understanding the military

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from the inside. So he was saying, I don't want

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to send young men to war if I haven't served.

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That was the line. He said he didn't want to

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send young men to die in a service he didn't

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understand. which sounds noble on paper. But

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the critics at the time didn't buy it. Not for

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a second. Columnists like Evans and Novak just

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savaged him for it. They called it clearing the

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biographical decks. What does that mean? Well,

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you have to look at the landscape of the time.

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JFK, Nixon, Ford, Carter, Reagan, George H .W.

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Bush, they all had military service records.

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It was practically a prerequisite for the presidency.

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Hart was the odd man out. So the cynical view

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is that he was just checking a box on his resume

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for a future presidential run. And the application

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process itself was riddled with irregularities.

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Oh, it was messy. He was over the age limit for

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a commission. He was, I think, 43 at the time.

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He had no prior experience. And in what becomes

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a recurring theme for Hart, there were discrepancies

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on his forms regarding his birth date. He got

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his own birthday wrong. Again, it happened more

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than once in public documents. It added to this

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low -level hum of suspicion that he was constantly

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reinventing himself, you know, shaving a year

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off here or there. So how did he get in? He got

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a waiver from the Secretary of the Navy, Edward

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Hidalgo. But here is a fascinating connection.

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The Senate liaison for the Navy who helped smooth

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this whole process over was none other than John

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McCain. No way. That is a wild connection. They

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actually became friends through the process.

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Hart was commissioned as a lieutenant junior

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grade. He apparently wanted a higher rank, but

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the Navy held firm that he had no experience.

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He did his active duty tours, but politically

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it was a wash. It just looked too calculated

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to a lot of people. But despite the cynicism,

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he gears up for the big show, 1984. He decides

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to run for president. And this is really the

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rehearsal for the tragedy that comes later. It

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really is. 1984 is where he proves he's a heavyweight.

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He announces early. in February of 1983, and

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he is polling at an asterisk, like 1%. A total

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nobody on the national state. Completely. He

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is running against Walter Mondale, the former

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vice president and the embodiment of the Democratic

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establishment, and John Glenn, an American hero

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and astronaut. Hart is a nobody outside of Colorado

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and D .C. So he goes back to the 1972 McGovern

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playbook. He does. He realizes he can't outspend

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Mondale, so he decides to outwork him in the

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early states. He goes to New Hampshire way, way

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before anyone else. He campaigns on this theme

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of new ideas. That was the slogan. It was a brilliant

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frame. Mondale was the past. Hart was the future.

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And it worked. He won New Hampshire by 10 points.

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I mean, that is a political earthquake. It was

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a massive upset. Suddenly, Gary Hart is on the

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cover of Time and Newsweek. He's being called

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the new JFK. He has the hair, the look, the Atari

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platform. Mondale is reeling. The entire establishment

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is terrified. But then we have one of the most

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famous moments in debate history, the where's

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the beef moment. I think people know the punchline,

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but let's analyze why it was so incredibly effective.

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It's a perfect case study in political jujitsu.

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Mondale was being attacked as old and boring.

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Hart was new ideas. But during a debate, Mondale

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turns to Hart and uses a slogan from a hugely

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popular Wendy's hamburger commercial. Everyone

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knew this ad. Oh, yeah. It was iconic. And he

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said, when I hear your new ideas, I'm reminded

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of that ad. Where's the beef? The audience just

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erupted. They did. But the reason it worked wasn't

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just because it was a funny, timely reference.

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It struck at Hart's biggest vulnerability. People

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thought he was cool. He was aloof. He was intellectual.

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But they weren't sure there was any real substance

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behind the new ideas slogan. So Mondale was saying,

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this guy is all packaging. He's all sizzle and

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no steak. Exactly. It halted Hart's momentum

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cold. It gave the media and the voters a simple,

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powerful narrative to latch on to. Hart fought

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all the way to the convention in San Francisco,

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but Mondale had the delegates by then. He did,

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but it was the last time a nomination was truly

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contested that late into the game, and Hart went

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out swinging. He told the convention, This is

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one heart you will not leave in San Francisco.

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That's a great line. It was a promise. He was

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telling the world, I'll be back in 1988 and I'm

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going to win this time. And for three years,

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that seemed inevitable. Going into the 1988 cycle,

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he wasn't just a frontrunner. He was the guy.

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Oh, he was the prohibitive favorite. He was pulling

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double digits ahead of everyone. The path was

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completely clear for him to be the next president

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of the United States. But there was noise in

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the background. Rumors. The womanizing rumors.

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It was something of an open secret in D .C. that

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Hart had a complex marriage. He and his wife

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Lee had separated twice in 79 and 81, though

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they always reconciled. He called it a midlife

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crisis, right? He did. But there were constant

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whispers about affairs, about him not being,

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you know, a faithful husband. And this brings

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us to the scandal. And this is where we need

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to be very precise, because the popular memory

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of this event is actually wrong. The story everyone

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knows is Hart arrogantly taunted the press, geared

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them to follow him. So they did. And they caught

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him. That is the myth. It's a very convenient

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narrative because it makes the whole scandal

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Hart's fault for being arrogant. But the timeline

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and the sources, it tells a very different story.

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OK, let's break down that timeline. The felon's

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quote is finding. Follow me around. I don't care

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if anybody wants to put a tail on me. Go ahead.

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They'll be very bored. Right. He gave that quote

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to E .J. Dionne of the New York Times for a magazine

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piece. But, and this is absolutely crucial, that

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interview had not been published yet when the

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Miami Herald began their investigation. So the

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Herald wasn't accepting some kind of challenge?

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No. The Herald received an anonymous tip. A phone

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call from a woman who claimed her friend was

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having an affair with Hart and that she even

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had photos. So the Herald flew a team to D .C.

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and staked out his townhouse based entirely on

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that tip. Not on a dare. And the quote from The

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Times. Here's the crazy part. The quote appeared

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in The New York Times Magazine on Sunday, May

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3rd. That was the exact same day that the Miami

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Herald published its story about the stakeout.

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Oh, wow. What a collision. It was a cosmic collision

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of bad timing. It made Hart look incredibly hubristic,

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as if he was daring them while he was actively

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with Donna Rice. But the surveillance was already

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happening. The die was already cast. So let's

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talk about that weekend, May 1st and 2nd, 1987.

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The stakeout itself. It's just grim. You have

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these reporters sitting in rental cars watching

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the back door of a presidential candidate's home.

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They see a young woman, Donna Rice, coming and

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going with Hart's friend. Then they see her and

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Hart together. And on Saturday evening, they

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decide to confront him. In an alleyway. In an

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alley. Sounds like a movie. It really does. Hart

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is walking near his townhouse. The reporters

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literally surround him. It's chaotic. They start

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firing questions at him. Who is the woman in

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your house? Is she staying with you? Hart denied

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everything. He was agitated. He claimed he was

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being set up. But the optics were just fatal.

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The frontrunner for the presidency cornered in

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an alley trying to explain why a blonde model

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was in his house. It was over at that moment,

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really. The story breaks the next day. And the

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media environment. The sources describe it as

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a frenzy that had never been seen before. This

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was the Rubicon Crossing. Before this, there

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was sort of a gentleman's agreement in the press.

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There was. I mean, the press corps knew about

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FDR. They knew about JFK. They knew about LBJ.

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But they viewed it as private conduct that didn't

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impact their ability to govern. With Hart, the

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character issue became the dominant and really

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the only story. The wall between public and private

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was demolished. It was bulldozed. Overnight,

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the campaign turned from a debate about policy

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into a character inquisition. The Washington

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Post was preparing a story about another woman

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Hart had dated while he was legally separated

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from his wife. The pressure was just unbearable.

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And on May 8th, just a week after the story broke,

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he suspended his campaign. Just like that, it

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was over. And his withdrawal speech... Reading

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the transcript of it now, it's not apologetic,

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it's angry. It is. It's defiant. He felt he was

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the victim of a media that had completely lost

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its way. He said, and this is a quote, I watched

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journalists become animals, literally. But the

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most haunting part is when he paraphrased Thomas

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Jefferson. What did he say? He said, I tremble

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for my country when I think we may, in fact,

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get the kind of leaders we deserve. That is a

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heavy statement. He was warning us. He was saying,

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if you make politics about peeping through keyholes

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and staking out people's homes, serious people

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with complex lives will stop running for office.

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And you'll be left with what? You're going to

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be left with people who are simply better at

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hiding things or people who have no shame at

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all. He also talked about this idea of static.

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Yes. He said that scandal creates static that

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drowns out the signal of real issues. And that

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concept becomes devastatingly, tragically relevant

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when we look at his post -political career. He

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did try to jump back in briefly in December of

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87, right? The Let the People Decide tour. He

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did. It was a bizarre, almost quixotic attempt

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to restart his campaign. He thought maybe the

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voters didn't care as much as the press did.

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He was wrong. He was wrong. He was a punchline

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by then. He polled terribly and dropped out again

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for good after Super Tuesday. His electoral career

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was dead. And usually in a biography, this is

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where the screen fades to black. The politician

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retires, maybe writes a memoir, plays golf. But

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for Gary Hart, this was arguably just the end

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of the first act. This is where the story gets

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really substantive. Hart didn't disappear into

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obscurity. He went to Oxford. He earned a doctorate

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in politics. He completely reinvented himself

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again, this time as a serious scholar of national

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security. And this brings us to the late 90s.

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President Clinton commissions Hart, along with

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former Republican Senator Warren Rudman, to lead

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a major study on national security. But Hart

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Rudman... commission. And this wasn't some fluff

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assignment to keep a former politician busy.

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They spent nearly three years analyzing the changing

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global landscape after the Cold War. And their

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conclusion was stark. What did they find? They

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said that the era of American invulnerability

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was over. They concluded that the U .S. homeland

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was now a primary target. And they were specific

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about the nature of the threat. Extremely specific.

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They warned that a terrorist attack involving

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mass casualties would occur on U .S. soil. They

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explicitly stated it wasn't a matter of if, but

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when. They published their final report in early

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2001. So now we are in 2001. George W. Bush is

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president. The report is out there collecting

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dust on a shelf somewhere, I assume. But Hart

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didn't just file the report and walk away. He

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was actively sounding the alarm. He was. And

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this is where the timeline becomes just chilling.

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Let's look at the week before 9 -11. OK. September

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4th, 2001. Hart is in Montreal giving a speech.

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He publicly warns that within the next 25 years,

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a massive terrorist event will kill Americans

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on American soil. He is trying to get people

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to pay attention. And then September 6th. Five

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days before the attacks. This is the meeting

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that I think must haunt him. Hart goes to the

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White House to meet with Condoleezza Rice, the

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National Security Advisor. He is there specifically

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to urge the Bush administration to move faster

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on the Hart -Rudman Commission's recommendations.

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What did he tell her? Do we know? We do. He was

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blunt. He told her, you must move more quickly

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on homeland security. An attack is going to happen.

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He was trying to cut through the bureaucracy

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to light a fire under them. And the response.

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According to Hart and later reports, the administration

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was polite, but essentially dismissed the urgency.

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Their focus was elsewhere. They were looking

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at missile defense. They were looking at state

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actors like Iraq and China. The idea of a non

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-state actor using commercial planes as missiles.

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It just wasn't the frequency they were tuned

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into. It really brings us back to his warning

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about static, doesn't it? The scandal in 87 destroyed

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his political viability. If he had been President

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Hart or even just Senator Hart with his reputation

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intact, would that warning have been heeded?

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That is the ultimate unanswerable question. The

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scandal didn't just remove a candidate from the

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field. It sidelined a mind that had correctly

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diagnosed the defining threat of the 21st century.

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Because he was viewed as damaged goods, his warnings

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were easier to ignore. The static of his personal

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life drowned out the signal of his intelligence.

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That's it. That's the tragedy. It's unbelievable.

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But he did eventually find a way to serve again

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in a different capacity. He did. Under the Obama

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administration from 2014 to 2017, he served as

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the U .S. special envoy for Northern Ireland.

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It's a very difficult, very delicate diplomatic

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role helping to manage the peace process. And

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the fact that he was chosen for that, what does

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that signal? It shows that, at least within the

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serious circles of foreign policy, he had earned

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his redemption. He had proven he was the statesman

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he always claimed to be, despite the caricature.

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I want to touch on one final aspect before we

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wrap up. The personal side. The scandal was ostensibly

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about protecting the sanctity of marriage. The

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press destroyed him to save the country from

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an adulterer. Yeah. But looking at the sources,

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the marriage survived. It did. Gary and Lee Hart

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remained married until her death in 2021. And

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it wasn't a fairy tale. In public statements

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over the years, they were very honest about the

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fact that it was difficult. They admitted to

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the separations. They admitted to the pain. Hart

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said that the time they spent apart actually

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strengthened their marriage in the long run.

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but they changed to stay together. It just defies

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the simple narrative, doesn't it? The media treated

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it as a black and white morality play, but the

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reality was a complex, gray, very human relationship

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that endured for over 60 years. And in a way,

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that's the story of Gary Hart himself. He was

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never the caricature the media painted him as.

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He wasn't just the monkey business guy. He was

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a brilliant strategist, a flawed husband, a visionary

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policymaker, and a casualty of a changing culture.

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He's even found this weird second life in pop

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culture. He has. He's played by Hugh Jackman

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in the movie The Front Runner. He shows up in

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references on Cheers and The Golden Girls. But

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the weirdest one has to be Stephen King. Oh,

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right. He's the president in Stephen King's Dark

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Tower universe. In that alternate timeline, he

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won in 1988. A strange kind of immortality. To

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be the good president in a fantasy novel. It

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shows that he remains this symbol of what could

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have been. It's a powerful idea. So let's synthesize

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all this. We started with a farm boy who renamed

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himself for practical reasons. We saw the strategist

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who invented the modern caucus system, the Atari

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Democrat who foresaw the tech economy. Then the

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scandal that changed journalism forever. And

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the prophet who warned us about 9 -11 when almost

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no one was listening. It is a dense, complicated

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legacy. The question I'm left with is the one

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we touched on earlier. Did the destruction of

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the wall between public and private life actually

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make us better off? We knew everything there

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was to know about Donna Rice. We knew nothing

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about the 19 terrorists training to fly planes

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in Florida. That is the verdict of history, isn't

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it? In our obsession with the personal failings

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of our leaders, we distracted ourselves from

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the existential threat. facing our nation, Hart

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warned us about the static. And looking back

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at that week in September 2001, it's just so

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hard to argue that we were listening to the right

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signal. Which leaves us with a provocative thought.

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Sometimes the headline everyone is screaming

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about is just noise, and the real story, the

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one that actually matters, is in the quiet report

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that nobody is bothering to read. Absolutely.

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The signal gets lost in the static. That's it

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for this deep dive into the paradox of Gary Hart.

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Thanks for listening. Thank you. We'll see you

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in the next one. Stay curious.
