Everyone thinks they know Jada Pinkett Smith.
I mean, really. If you've scrolled through any
social media feed in, what, the last five years,
you have absolutely seen the meme. Oh, absolutely.
The Red Table Talk glare. That glare, yes. You've
seen the Oscar slap, of course, and the, uh,
just... Endless, endless dissection of her marriage
to Will Smith. It's gotten to this point of saturation
where she's almost become like a caricature of
herself in the public eye. Which is so fascinating
because when you actually sit down with the source
material, and we have a lot of it, the biographical
records, the business filings, her filmography,
and especially her 2023 memoir, Worthy. That
whole caricature. falls apart. It really does.
Or, you know, at least it reveals itself to be
this tiny, tiny fraction of a much more complex
reality. That is exactly what struck me going
through the stack for this deep dive. We were
talking about a woman who was named one of the
100 most influential people in the world by Time
magazine in 2021. 2021. Not that long ago. Not
at all. And yet the conversation is almost always,
you know, reduced to Will Smith's wife or the
lady who admitted to an entanglement. But the
data, the actual facts, they paint a picture
of someone who has been. Just completely defying
categorization for 30 years. And that's really
the mission of this deep dive, isn't it? We need
to unpack the trajectory of a woman who went
from, and this is a fact, selling crack cocaine
in Baltimore during the absolute height of the
epidemic. Right. To fronting a new metal band
at Ozzfest. To running a full -blown media empire.
The narrative isn't just actress gets famous.
It's about a constant, almost militant refusal
to fit into any single box. And the sheer volume
of data we have on her is just wild. We've got
deep dives into her specific ancestry. We have
investment portfolios that would make a Wall
Street broker blush. And, you know, detailed
accounts of her time at the Baltimore School
for the Arts. It's all there. So, yeah, let's
forget the memes for an hour. Let's just look
at the actual life. And we have to start in Baltimore.
September 18th, 1971. Jada Corrin Pinkett is
born. And even her name was kind of a statement.
Named after Jada Rowland, who was her mother's
favorite soap opera actress. It's almost prophetic,
right? Like, she was sort of earmarked for drama
and, I mean, theatrical drama from day one. Exactly.
But the environment she was born into, it was
not a soap opera set. It was intense. Intense
is putting it so mildly. To understand Jada,
you really have to look at the lineage. On her
mother's side, you have this rich... Caribbean
heritage. We're talking Jamaican and Bajan roots
on her father's side, African -American. But
that core parental dynamic was fractured. I mean,
almost immediately. Her mother, Adrienne Banfield
Norris, who people now know from Red Table Talk.
Gammy. Gammy, yeah. She became pregnant in high
school. She married Jada's father, Robsal Pickett
Jr. But that marriage just, it dissolved almost
instantly. And Robsal wasn't just, you know,
absent. He was a really complex figure in his
own right. He ran a construction company, so
he had that entrepreneurial drive. But he was
also battling a very severe addiction. And that
addiction narrative, it seems to haunt the periphery
of Jada's entire life. life story. It really
does. It sets up this recurring theme of addiction
and recovery that she deals with for decades.
She eventually even credits Scientology's Narconon
program for helping him get clean much, much
later in his life. Right. We'll have to circle
back to the Scientology connections because that's
a whole thing. It is. But in those very early
years, the stability. It just didn't come from
her parents. It came from her grandmother. Mary
Martin Banfield. I love reading about this woman.
She just sounds like an absolute force of nature.
A Jamaican -born social worker. Jada calls her
a doer. And that's a very specific type of person,
you know, especially in a community that's struggling.
A doer. Marian wasn't just trying to keep the
lights on. She was actively trying to build a
better community. Jada describes her as the moral
compass. She's the one who looked at this little
girl in the middle of Baltimore and said, essentially,
You're going to be cultured. You're going to
appreciate beauty and art. And that's the part
that just gets me. Because Baltimore in the 70s
and 80s was... It was rough. We're talking about
the era of The Wire, basically. But Marion is
enrolling Jada in piano lessons, tap dance and
ballet. She's curating this entire artistic education
in the middle of a very, very hard environment.
And that act right there, that creates the central
tension of Jada's entire youth. It's this profound
duality. On the one hand, she's a twig. She's
participating in this. very competitive after
-school arts program. She eventually gets into
the Baltimore School for the Arts, the BSA, which
is a really prestigious institution. She graduated
in 89. Exactly. She's studying dance and drama.
She's reading plays. She's perfecting her posture
at the bar. She's in that world. And on the other
hand... She is in the streets, and I don't mean
she was just like hanging out on the block. She
was living a completely different parallel life.
Completely parallel. The sources say she was
raised in Pimlico and Arlington, but she was
hanging out in places like Cold Spring, Dolefield.
I mean, these are neighborhoods where you got
to keep your head on a swivel. It's the stark
contrast between the ballet bar and the corner.
By the time she's a teenager, she's not just
going to dance recitals. She's a regular at clubs
like Odell's and Godfrey's famous ballroom. Legendary
spots. And she's not just an observer in this
world. She has admitted on the record many times
to selling drugs in the Cherry Hill neighborhood.
OK, let's just pause on that for a second, because
a lot of celebrities will say they were in the
streets to get some clout. But Jada was actually
like moving product while simultaneously attending
a high level performing arts school. Yes. The
cognitive dissonance required to navigate those
two worlds every single day is staggering to
me. It is. But I also think it's a skill set.
I mean, think about what drug dealing actually
requires. OK. Risk assessment, reading people
instantly, high stakes negotiation, understanding
leverage and power dynamics. If you can successfully
navigate a drug deal in Sherry Hill. at 16 years
old, without getting shot or arrested, then dealing
with Hollywood agents is frankly a walk in the
park. That's a really great point. It honestly
explains that kind of steeliness she has. She
never looks rattled in interviews. Ever. Never.
Because she learned to wear a mask very early
on. She had the art school Jada mask and the
Cherry Hill Jada mask. And if you look at her
filmography later, which we'll get into, she
is constantly playing these characters who are
tough. raw survivors. Right. That's not method
acting. For her, that's just sense memory. Speaking
of the Baltimore School for the Arts, we absolutely
have to talk about the other luminary walking
those same halls, the relationship that really
defines her entire early life, Tupac Shakur.
You cannot tell Jada's story without Tupac. It's
impossible. They met at BSA. And by all accounts,
the bond was instantaneous. But people always,
always want to romanticize it into a sexual thing.
Yeah, they do. And Jada has been fighting that
specific narrative for 30 years. She calls him
a once -in -a -lifetime relationship. She says
he was one of my best friends, like a brother.
And Tupac said, quote, Jada is my heart. We'll
be old together. I mean, that is heavy. It's
so heavy. It sounds so much more like soulmates
than lovers. I think so. It feels more like that
Greek concept of agape or philia, a love that
kind of transcends romance. And Jada has always
maintained it was platonic. In fact, she revealed
a detail in her memoir, Worthy, that I think
shocked a lot of people. A proposal. The marriage
proposal, yeah. This was when he was at Rikers
Island in 1995, right? That's correct. He was
incarcerated, facing really serious time. He
proposes marriage to her from prison. And Jada,
despite loving him so deeply, said no. That must
have been an incredibly hard decision. I mean,
can you imagine? But she knew that merging their
lives legally, especially with the absolute chaos
surrounding him at that time, was just a path
she couldn't go down. That takes an incredible
amount of maturity and self -awareness for a
woman in her early 20s. But she didn't abandon
him. Not at all. The loyalty she showed him,
both before and during that time, is just the
stuff of legend. The bail money is the detail
that always, always sticks out to me. $100 ,000.
$100 ,000. In 1995 cash. And think about it.
At that point, she was on a different world.
She'd done a couple of movies. But she wasn't
Will Smith rich yet. Not by a long shot. $100
,000 must have been a huge chunk of her entire
net worth. It was a massive, massive risk. He
was awaiting appeal on sexual abuse convictions.
It was incredibly controversial to support him
publicly like that. But she put the money up
because he was her person. And it wasn't just
financial. She put her career on the line for
him professionally, too. The Menesthetic Society
situation. The Menesthetic Society situation.
Exactly. This is 1993. This is supposed to be
her breakout film role. She gets the part of
Ronnie and she actually got the role through
Tupac. He helped her get in the door. But when
the directors, the Hughes brothers, fired Tupac
after some kind of onset conflict. Jada was ready
to walk. She was going to quit her first big
movie in solidarity. Which is just absolute career
suicide for a rookie actor. Total suicide. Tupac
himself had to talk her off the ledge. He was
the one who convinced her to stay and do the
movie. But she held that grudge. She did. Later
on, when the Hughes brothers were casting their
next film, Dead Presidents, they offered her
a role. She turned it down flat. And she specifically
cited her loyalty to Tupac as a reason why. In
Hollywood, where people would, you know, sell
their own grandmother for a lead role, that kind
of principled stand is almost unheard of. It's
incredible. It really is. It highlights that
street code we were talking about earlier. You
don't cross the family. You stay loyal. And even
after he passed, she kept that connection alive
in a very public way. The theater. She donated
a million dollars to the Baltimore School for
the Arts in 2006, and she named the new theater
after him. So his name is literally on the building
where they first met. It's a tragic but very
beautiful arc. So while she's navigating this
incredibly intense personal saga with Tupac,
she's also trying to break into Hollywood for
real. And it wasn't like she just walked onto
the A -list. It was a grind. Oh, it was a standard
L .A. hustle at first. She did a year at the
North Carolina School of the Arts, then packed
up and headed west. She got the usual guest spots,
True Colors, 21 Jump Street, even Doogie Howser,
M .D. Right, paying the bills. Paying the bills.
But the real pivot, the game changer, was 1991,
a different world. Lena James. The character
of Lena James was, I mean, it was basically Jada,
a tough girl from a poor part of Baltimore who's
trying to adjust to the, you know. polite bourgeois
atmosphere of a historically black college campus.
It is art imitating life perfectly. She brought
that around the way girl energy to Hillman College
and it just popped off the screen. And if you
look at the arc of that character, it's also
really interesting. Lena starts as an engineering
major. all about the hard facts, then switches
to journalism. She's smart, she's sharp, but
she's always a bit of a fish out of water. That
role let Jada showcase her natural charisma and
that specific edge she has. It made her a household
name in black households, absolutely. But she
was already eyeing the mainstream. And 1994 seems
to be the year that the dam just completely broke
for her. A low -down, dirty shame. Directed by
Keenan Ivory Wayans. A huge hit. And the critics
loved her. The New York Times called her performance
sassy and sizzling. Sassy and sizzling. I love
that. Then she does Jason's lyric in the exact
same year. And Roger Ebert, who was famously
tough on everyone, he specifically praised her
chemistry with Alan Payne. He wrote that they
actually seemed to like each other, which he
said was a surprisingly rare quality in screen
romances. That's high praise from Ebert. But
then we get to 1996. And that's the year. I mean.
The Nutty Professor. That is a global smash hit.
$274 million worldwide. She's playing opposite
Eddie Murphy at the absolute peak of his comeback.
She's the sweet, charming love interest Carla
Purdy. It proves she could anchor a four -quadrant
blockbuster. A huge deal. But then in the exact
same year... She drops Set It Off. And Set It
Off is a cultural monument. I don't think you
can overstate how important that movie is, especially
for black cinema. No, you can't. It's just critical.
He plays Stoney. She's one of four women who
are robbing banks to try and escape poverty.
It's gritty. It's violent. It's deeply tragic.
And to go from the sweet girlfriend and the nutty
professor to a desperate bank robber and set
it off in the same calendar year, that showed
the entire industry that she had serious range.
The San Francisco Chronicle reviewed it and labeled
her the one to watch after that performance.
Which then leads directly into the blockbuster,
Scream 2 in 97. Which is such an iconic opening
scene. Getting murdered in front of the movie
theater audience watching a movie about themselves,
it's so meta. It's perfect. And then, The Matrix.
Niobe. Yeah, this is where she becomes a true
action icon. This was 2003 for Reloaded and Revolutions.
And the best part of this story is that the Wachowskis
wrote the character of Niobe specifically for
her. They didn't even audition her. No audition.
They just wanted Jada. That's a flex. That is
a serious flex. It is. And think about the timing.
She had just finished filming Ali, where she
played a completely different type of role. Muhammad
Ali's first wife, Sanji Roy. Very period specific.
Very dramatic. And then she immediately cuts
her hair. Puts on the leather trench coat and
becomes this badass spaceship captain. And she
did the video game for it too, right? Enter the
Matrix. Which was a massive deal at the time.
She actually won an Interactive Achievement Award
for that performance. People forget that the
Enter the Matrix game had a full hour of live
action footage that was directed by the Wachowskis
that was not in the movies. Wow. So Jada was
basically carrying a third interactive movie
on her back for the gaming console. It totally
solidified her status as a physical performer
and an action star. So, okay, let's recap. We
have drama Jada, we have comedy Jada, we have
action Jada. And then we get metal Jada. Yes.
Wicked wisdom. This is the part of her career
that I think confuses people the most, but honestly,
I find it the most fascinating. In 2002, at pretty
much the height of her Hollywood fame, she decides
to form a new metal band. And let's be really
clear. This was not some like pop rock vanity
project. This was heavy. This was aggressive
music. Yeah. And the motivation is key. She said
she grew up listening to Metallica and Guns N'
Roses. Right. Yeah. And she looked around the
metal scene in the early 2000s and saw, you know,
basically zero black women. And she essentially
asked the question, why can't I do that? Why
can't I rock out like Axl Rose? The band lineup
was legit, too. It wasn't just a bunch of session
guys. Pocket Honor in guitar, Cameron Worm Graves,
Rio on bass. And it was all managed by Overbrook,
Will's company. Right. But the pivotal moment,
the trial by fire, was OzFest 2005. This story
is incredible. It is. So Sharon Osbourne saw
them play a tiny club in L .A. and was apparently
just blown away by Jada's stage presence. So
she books them for OzFest. Now you have to understand,
the OzFest crowd in the mid -2000s. It is not
a friendly crowd. Not for outsiders. This is
a hostile environment for anything that even
smells like Hollywood or inauthentic. You have
these hardcore metalheads who paid to see Slayer
and Iron Maiden and Black Sabbath. And here comes
the actress from The Nutty Professor fronting
a metal band. I read reports that people were
throwing bottles, booing them offstage. Oh, it
was brutal. The first few dates were incredibly
rocky. People were yelling, go home, actress.
There were racial slurs, misogyny, just all of
it. But Jada's response to that was pure Baltimore.
Her quote was, I'm not here asking for any favors.
You've got to show and prove. Show and prove.
That's the motto. She went out there every single
night and just screamed her lungs out. She threw
her body around the stage. And the band members
all recount that by about the sixth or seventh
gig, the tide actually turned. No. Yes. The metalheads
stopped throwing bottles and they started moshing.
She earned their respect in the absolute hardest
way possible. That's that grit we were talking
about from the intro. It would have been so,
so easy for her to quit and go back to her mansion
in Calabasas. But she stayed on the tour bus.
And she even did a tour opening for Britney Spears
on the Onyx Hotel tour. Which has to be the most
bizarre billing in music history. This is laughing.
Wicked wisdom opening for Britney Spears. I can't
even imagine. And they toured with Seven Dust,
a very respected heavy band. It just showed she
wasn't doing it for the money. She certainly
didn't need touring money. She was doing it purely
for the expression. So while she's conquering
Ozzfest and the box office, her personal life
is becoming a global brand in itself. The marriage
to Will Smith. The ultimate power couple of the
late 90s and 2000s. But again, the origin story
is messier and more interesting than people remember.
They met on the set of The Fresh Prince of Bel
-Air in 1994. Jada auditioned for the role of
Lisa Wilkes, Will's girlfriend. And they told
her she was too short. Can you believe it? Too
short. Nia Long got the part. But Will was apparently
immediately smitten. He said he felt a spark.
But... And this is a key detail. He didn't act
on it because he was still married to his first
wife, Cherie Fletcher. So he was respectful about
it. He was. He only reached out to Jada in 1995
after that marriage had officially ended. And
then came the wedding. New Year's Eve, 1997.
At the Cloisters, this beautiful castle -like
mansion near Baltimore. A very lavish, very secret
wedding. And Jada is three months pregnant with
Jaden at the time. And this is a detail from
her recent press tour that... really, really
reframes everything. She did not want a wedding.
She said she cried the whole way down the aisle,
right? Cried the whole way and not happy tears.
She said she felt enormous pressure, specifically
from her mother, Adrienne, to have a traditional
ceremony because she was pregnant. Jade has been
quoted saying she never wanted to be married
in that institutional sense. She said this amazing
thing, I will throw my career away before I let
it break up our marriage. She meant the partnership,
the union. but the actual wedding ceremony. She
said she hated it. Wow, that really sets the
stage for everything that follows, doesn't it?
From day one, there was this intense friction
between the societal expectation of what marriage
should be and what Jada actually wanted for her
life. Exactly. They went on to build this incredible
life. Jaden born in 98, Willow in 2000, and she
became a stepmother to Trey from Will's first
marriage. But their whole parenting style was
always alternative. The gardening analogy. Will
called it gardening. His philosophy was you just
water the seed and let the child become what
they are, rather than trying to force them into
a shape you've predetermined. Which, you know,
leads us to the study tech controversy. Yes.
This is something that pops up in the background
of their lives for years. It's the Scientology
connection. They founded their own school, the
New Village Leadership Academy, in Calabasas.
And they openly used a teaching method called
study technology, which was developed by L. Ron
Hubbard. OK, so can you explain what that actually
is? Because people hear Scientology and they
immediately freak out. In theory, on paper, it's
about a concept called word clearing. The idea
is to make sure a student understands the definition
of every single word in a sentence before they
move on to ensure full comprehension. Which sounds
benign enough. It sounds benign. But because
it's the foundational pedagogy of Scientology
itself, many educators and former members view
it as a kind of gateway to the doctrine. The
Smiths poured millions of their own money into
this school, and they used the method for homeschooling
Jaden and Willow. But they never officially joined
the Church of Scientology. They have always,
always denied being Scientologists. Jada credited
the Narconon program, which is also Hubbard -based,
for helping her father get sober. So she clearly
saw value in some of the tools, but they always
maintained an independence from the organization
itself. And it's just another example of them
taking what they want from a system and completely
ignoring the labels and the baggage. Which brings
us to the rumors. I mean, the open marriage whispers,
they started way back in early 2010. Around 2013,
yeah. Jada gave an interview where she said something
like, Will can do whatever he wants as long as
he can look himself in the mirror. And the tabloids
just ran with it. Of course. The headlines were,
Jada confirms open marriage. She had to go on
Facebook and write this long post clarifying
that she meant their relationship was based on
deep trust and love, not that they were, you
know, swingers. But where there's smoke, well,
in this case, there was August Alsina. 2020,
the year that everything just broke wide open.
August Alsina, an R &B singer who was friends
with their son, Jayden. goes on a radio show
and claims he had this intense, years -long affair
with Jada. And the kicker was he claimed he had
Will's permission. That was the part that blew
it all up. Yeah. Because that implies the open
marriage was real all along. So that forced Jada's
hand. Completely. She took herself to the red
table. July 2020, the infamous entanglement episode.
That one word changed pop culture for a solid
year. It really did. Yeah. And in that episode,
she did confirm the relationship. But the context
she gave is the part that I think everyone conveniently
ignores. Which was? She said that at the time,
she and Will were separated amicably. They were
living apart. They were effectively done with
the romantic part of their marriage. So when
Alcina said he had Will's permission, Jada's
argument was essentially, we were broken up.
The only person whose permission was needed was
mine. Exactly. She was reclaiming her own agency
in the narrative. Yeah. She wasn't a cheating
wife. She was a separated woman who was exploring
a connection during a very difficult time in
her life. She said she eventually broke it off
with him and she and Will reconciled. But that
episode just shattered the public illusion of
the perfect Smith family. But then her memoir
Worthy comes out in 2023 and she drops the real
bombshell, the one that recontextualizes everything.
The Timeline. This is the crucial data point
that changes the whole story. She revealed in
the book that she and Will have been living completely
separate lives since 2016. 2016. That is six
years before the Oscars slap. Six years. So when
we, the public, watched them on red carpets,
when we saw the Happy Family Instagram posts,
when we saw the slap, they were living in separate
houses the entire time. Wow. They were, in her
words, emotional partners and business partners.
They were legally married. but they were romantically
and domestically divorced. That recontextualizes
the slap entirely. It changes everything about
that moment. It does. Let's look at the Oscars
in 2022. Chris Rock makes the G .I. Jane joke.
Which is aimed directly at Jada's alopecia. And
we need to talk about the alopecia. She was diagnosed
in 2018. She said it was terrifying just seeing
clumps of hair in her hands in the shower. Losing
your hair is traumatic for anyone but for an
actress whose beauty is part of her brand. It's
devastating. Sure. She went public with it in
December 2021, shaved her head, really tried
to own it. She posted a video saying, Mama's
going to have to take it down to the scalp. Me
and this alopecia are going to be friends. So
Chris Rock makes a joke about her shaved head.
Will sees Jada roll her eyes. He sees the hurt
on her face. And he snaps. But knowing they were
separated adds this whole other layer of, I don't
know, is it performative protection, is it guilt?
He was defending the wife he wasn't actually
living with as a husband. That's so complex.
It wasn't just about a joke at that point. It
was about the complex, messy, undefined nature
of their bond. He was asserting a husband role
that, in private, didn't really exist in the
traditional sense anymore. It's just tragic.
It completely destroyed his public image, at
least for a while, and it put her right back
in the crosshairs as the villain who somehow
made him do it. Which is so deeply unfair. She
didn't ask him to slap anyone. She rose her eyes.
But because she's always been perceived as the
strong one or the one in control, the manipulator
narrative just took hold immediately. But through
all of this personal chaos, though, business
is booming. She is not just sitting at home dealing
with drama. She's actively building companies.
She's a full -on mogul. There's 100 % Women Productions,
her own company. Then there's Westbrook Inc.,
the massive media company she co -founded with
Will. She's an executive producer on Hawthorne.
The medical drama she started on TNT. She produced
The Secret Life of Bees. And The Broadway Show.
Yes. She's a producer on Fela. on Broadway, which
got nominated for 11 Tony Awards. And she was
so early on the natural beauty wave, too. So
early. She invested in Carol's daughter back
in 2005. That's Lisa Price's brand. Back then,
big beauty companies were completely ignoring
the natural hair market for black women. Jada
saw the value, saw the community, and put her
money there. That brand eventually sold to L
'Oreal for a fortune. That's just savvy investing.
And then there's Red Table Talk itself. That
show fundamentally changed the landscape of celebrity
talk shows. It won a Daytime Emmy in 2021. But
more importantly, it was a strategic masterstroke.
By creating her own platform with her mother
and her daughter, three generations of women,
she completely removed the middleman. Right.
She didn't have to go to Oprah or Diane Sawyer
to explain her life. She could do it on her terms,
at her own table, controlling the entire narrative.
It's the ultimate control move. It's like, I
will tell you about the affair, but I will do
it on my show, and I will be the one who gets
the ratings and wins the Emmy for it. Precisely.
It turns the scandal into content. It turns the
pain into a product. And that is the definition
of a modern media mogul. So we've looked at the
drug dealer, the art school kid, the sitcom star,
the action hero, the rock star, the wife, the
mogul. What is the through line here? When you
look at all this data, what are we supposed to
learn from the life of Jada Pinkett Smith? I
think the key takeaway is a fundamental rejection
of passivity. At no point in her story is Jada
Pinkett Smith a passenger in her own life. She
is always in the driver's seat, whether she was
facing down drug dealers in Cherry Hill or staring
down a hostile crowd of metalheads at Ozzfest
or staring down a camera to confess a marital
entanglement. She insists on being the author
of her own story. She lives in that duality we
talked about at the top. She embodies it. Her
life is proof that you can be classy and heard.
You can be deeply spiritual and incredibly messy.
You can be a devoted wife and a free agent all
at the same time. She just refuses to simplify
herself to make the rest of us comfortable. And
I think that's probably why she triggers so many
people. We want our celebrities to fit neatly
into a box and she just burns the box down. She
burns the box down and then dances in the ashes
while fronting a metal band. So here's the thought
that I want to leave everyone with as we wrap
this up. We now know from the source material
that she and Will have been separated since 2016.
They say they're working on it, but they are
content with this. Life partnership that isn't
a traditional marriage. Right. A partnership.
So my question is this. Is their relationship
a failure because it didn't look like the fairy
tale we all thought it was? Or is it actually
a successful evolution of what a long term partnership
can be? That's the question. Maybe they're just
showing us what partnership looks like when that
old promise of till death do us part meets the
messy reality of modern, high pressure, constantly
evolving lives. Maybe their marriage isn't broken.
Maybe they're just more honest about its complexities
than the rest of us are willing to be. It's a
really good question. Are we judging them because
they failed at the old model or because they
might be succeeding in a new one we don't understand
yet? Something to think about. A huge thanks
for diving deep with us today. This one was,
yeah, this was a complex one. Always a pleasure.
It was a great one. We'll see you on the next
one. Keep digging.