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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. I have to be honest

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with you, I spent the last 48 hours just living

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inside the source material we pulled for today,

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and I feel like I've just walked out of a very

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loud, very emotional concert that ended way,

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way too abruptly. That's a good way to put it.

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My ears are still ringing, and my heart is kind

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of heavy. That is probably the most accurate

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way to describe the experience of digging into

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the life and the very sudden death of Jared Anthony

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Higgins. Though the world, and I think history

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at this point, knows him as Juice World. Right.

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The voice that essentially defined a generation

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of heartbreak. But here is the thing that kept

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hitting me as I was reading through these files,

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and I want to get your take on this immediately.

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We usually talk about career trajectories in

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terms of decades. Yeah, the slow burn. You know,

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the drill. The 10 -year struggle in the underground,

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the slow breakthrough, the peak years, the gradual

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decline. With Juice World, we are looking at

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a story that is compressed into, what, two years?

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Essentially, yes. It is a story of extreme velocity.

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It is a timeline that moves so fast it almost

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blurs when you look at it closely. And that's

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the hook for me today, the sheer speed of it.

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We were talking about a kid recording on a cracked

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iPhone in a high school hallway, and then you

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blink. Literally. It feels like you blink. And

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he's signing a $3 million deal with Interscope.

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It is a meteoric rise in the truest, most literal

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sense of the word. Meteoric is the right word.

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Because meteors burn incredibly bright, they

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move faster than anything else in the sky. And

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often, well, they crash. And that is the other

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side of this paradox we have to look at. The

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crash. The tragedy. Exactly. Balanced against

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that astronomical one in a billion success is

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a lifelong, very public and very visceral battle

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with addiction. A battle that ended his life

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at the deeply young age of 21. 21. It's a number

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that just, it hangs there. So our mission today,

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and I want to be clear to you listening right

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now, this isn't just a biography. We aren't just

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going to list dates and albums and say, and then

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this happened. No, that would be a disservice

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to the complexity of who he was. We're going

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to unpack the phenomenon. We need to understand

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SoundCloud rap and emo rap, not just as buzzwords

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people throw around, but as actual cultural shifts.

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We need to talk about his process, which, honestly,

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reading about it, it defies the laws of physics.

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It defies the logic of how we think music is

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made. It completely upends the traditional songwriting

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manual. And finally, we have to navigate the

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legacy. Because even though he passed in 2019,

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the business of Juice WRLD is booming. There

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are massive questions here about posthumous albums,

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about the ethics of finishing a dead artist's

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work, and how we manage the art of someone who

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isn't here to say yes or no. And we have a massive

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stack of sources today. Biographies, police reports,

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discography notes, interviews, estate filings,

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the whole nine yards. It's a lot to get through.

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So buckle up. Let's dive in. Let's do it. I want

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to start with the geography. Because usually

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when we talk about Chicago hip hop, we have a

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very specific image in our minds. We think of

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the South Side. We think of drill music. We think

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of Chief Keef. We think of grit and concrete.

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Right. Aggressive, nihilistic beats. Music that

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reflects a very specific, very hard reality.

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But Jared Higgins, he is a little different.

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He was born in the city proper, December 2nd,

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1998. But he didn't stay there. No. His family

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moved. They moved to the south suburbs. Homewood,

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Illinois. Homewood Flossmoor. Now, for people

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who aren't from the Chicagoland area, help us

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place that. Is that the hood? Not exactly. I

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mean, it's a suburb. It's middle class to working

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class. It's very diverse, but it's distinct from

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the inner city. It's a place with good schools

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like Homewood Flossmoor High, which is actually

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known for its arts programs. OK, so it's a totally

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different environment from the one that birthed

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drill music. Completely. And that distinction

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matters. It really, really matters for his. sound

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and the home life was different too this wasn't

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a chaotic household in the traditional sense

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it was a single parent home yes his parents divorced

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when he was just three years old yeah which is

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a pivotal age for any child And sadly, his father

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passed away later, in June 2019, just months

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before Jarrett himself died. But for the vast

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majority of his life, he was raised by his mother,

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Carmela Wallace. And Carmela sounds like a force

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of nature in the source material. She was. And

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she was extremely religious, a very conservative

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Christian. The sources mention a specific rule

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she had in the house, which I found fascinating,

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considering who her son became. No hip -hop.

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Right. The future king of SoundCloud rap wasn't

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allowed to listen to rap. Explicitly forbidden.

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She felt the lyrics were too violent, too misogynistic,

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just generally destructive. She wanted to protect

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him from that influence. She wanted a, you know,

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a holy household. That is such a classic parenting

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backfire moment, isn't it? You ban the thing

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and it becomes the forbidden fruit. Oh, 100%.

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It becomes the most interesting thing in the

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world. But it also did something else. Something

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unintentional but crucial for his artistry. It

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forced him to look for music elsewhere. Exactly.

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If he couldn't listen to Jay -Z or 50 Cent in

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the living room, what was left? Video games.

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The loophole. The ultimate 90s and early 2000s

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loophole. I love this detail because it makes

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me feel so seen. He discovered music through

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Tony Hawk's Pro Skater and Guitar Hero. Think

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about those soundtracks for a second. If you

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grew up in that era, those playlists are burned

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into your brain. Oh, I can hear them right now.

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Goldfinger, Rage Against the Machine. Blank 182.

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Panic, At the Disco, Black Sabbath, Megadeth,

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Billy Idol. This was a curriculum of rock, pop

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punk, and heavy metal. It was a whole education.

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So while other kids in Chicago are absorbing

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the rhythmic patterns of trap music or the storytelling

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of Nas, Gerard is subconsciously memorizing pop

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punk chord progressions and heavy metal riffs.

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He is internalizing melody. He's learning about

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angst, but a specific type of suburban rock and

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roll angst. The nobody understands me, I'm all

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alone themes of emo music. This explains so much

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about his future sound. When people ask, why

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was Juice WRLD so melodic? Why did he sing as

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much as he rapped? Why did he sound like that?

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It's because his foundational education was Billy

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Idol, not Biggie Smalls. And he wasn't just a

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passive listener. This is key. He wasn't just

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consuming this stuff. He was dissecting it. No,

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he was an active participant from a very young

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age. He was a multi -instrumentalist by the time

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he was in grade school. The sources say piano

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at age four. Age four. His mother paid for lessons.

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Then he picks up the guitar on his own. Then

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the drums. Then the trumpet for the school band.

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So let's debunk a myth right away. There is this

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criticism of SoundCloud rappers from the old

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guard that they're just kids with laptops who

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don't know music, who just mumble over beats.

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Right, the mumble rap stigma, that they have

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no musicality. But Jared Higgins had music theory

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in his blood. He understood structure. He understood

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chords. He knew how to build a song before he

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ever learned how to record one. He understood

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harmony. He understood rhythm from a drummer's

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perspective. That is a massive, massive advantage.

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However, while this musical prodigy is developing,

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there is a shadow growing right alongside it.

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And we have to address this early on because

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it is not something that happened after the fame.

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It started way before. The substance abuse. The

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sources are startlingly... clear and frankly

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very disturbing on this. He started drinking

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lean in the sixth grade. Sixth grade. I mean,

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pause on that. That is an 11 or 12 year old child.

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Yes. For you listening, you might not be familiar

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with the terminology. What exactly is lean? We

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hear it in rap songs all the time, but what is

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it chemically? It is a mixture of prescription

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grade cough syrup, specifically containing codeine

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and promethazine. usually mixed with soda like

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Sprite and often hard candy like Jolly Ranchers

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to sweeten the taste. So it's an opioid cocktail.

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It's a powerful opioid cocktail. It is a downer.

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It slows your heart rate, gives you a feeling

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of euphoria and detachment. And he's doing this

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at age 12. And by 2013, his freshman or sophomore

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year of high school, he has moved on to Percocet

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and Xanax. These are heavy, heavy pharmaceuticals.

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And these aren't party drugs in the same way.

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Xanax is a benzodiazepine for anxiety. Percocet.

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is a powerful opioid painkiller. Exactly. Why?

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Do the sources give us any insight into the why?

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Was it just peer pressure? Was it trying to look

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cool? It is complex. I mean, there is the peer

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element, sure. He was around other kids who were

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experimenting. But there is also a clear thread

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of self -medication that runs through his whole

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story. He talked later about anxiety, about feeling

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overwhelmed. He wasn't just partying. He was

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trying to numb something inside him. It's just

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heartbreaking. You have this brilliant, talented

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kid, and he is already chemically dependent.

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before he can even drive a car. And yet, there

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is this weird duality in his teenage years. He

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was smoking cigarettes, right? A pack a day.

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Pretty heavy. But the sources say he quit smoking

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his senior year because of health issues. Wait.

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He quit cigarettes for his health, but he was

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popping Xanax. It shows the rationalization of

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addiction, doesn't it? It's a very common psychological

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pattern. How so? You cut out the bad thing that

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makes you cough or affects your stamina for basketball,

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but you keep the medicine that makes you feel

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mentally okay, even if it is physically destroying

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you in a much more insidious way. So we have

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the tension building, the strict religious mom,

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the hidden drug use, the rock and roll influences.

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And then around 2015, his sophomore year, he

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starts trying to get his voice out there. Enter

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Juice the Kid. Juice the Kid. One word. Where

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did the name come from? It is a callback to the

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1992 film Juice, starring Tupac Shakur. Tupac,

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okay. Now, Tupac was a massive influence on it.

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That's huge. But specifically, the character

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Bishop in that movie, the haircut, the attitude,

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Gerard identified with that rebellious energy.

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And eventually, he modifies it. He drops the

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kid and adds world, but spelled W -R -L -L -D.

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Which he said stood for world. It represented

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his ambition of taking over the world. Which

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is incredibly ambitious for a kid recording in

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his bedroom, but also sort of prophetic. Totally.

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And let's talk about that recording setup, because

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this is the birth of the SoundCloud aesthetic.

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He wasn't going to professional studios in downtown

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Chicago. He was using his phone, right. Literally

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his smartphone. He would find beats online, often

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leasing them for $20 or $30 from producers he

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met on the internet, and he would record his

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vocals directly into the phone. Sometimes he'd

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use the white Apple headphones with the little

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microphone on the cord. That explains that gritty,

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slightly distorted, almost lo -fi sound that

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became his signature. Exactly. In high -fidelity

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audio, distortion is a mistake. In SoundCloud

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rap, distortion is an emotion. It sounds raw.

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It sounds urgent. It sounds like he is right

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next to you, whispering in your ear or screaming

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in his car. So he is uploading these tracks.

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He graduates high school in 2017. And now he

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hits that classic crossroads, the what do you

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do with your life moment that everyone faces.

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He needed money. Music wasn't paying the bills

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yet. So he gets a job. A factory job. a car parts

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factory, I believe. And this is my favorite detail

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of his brief fame life because it is so relatable.

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He lasted exactly two weeks. He realized immediately,

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I am not built for this. He was dissatisfied,

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maybe a bit depressed by the monotony of it.

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He essentially got himself fired or just walked

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out so he could focus 100 % on music. That is

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a terrifying leap of faith. to look at a steady,

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if boring, paycheck and say, no, I'm going to

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bet on my voice memos. It is, but it paid off

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almost instantly. He joined this internet collective

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called Internet Money. Which is huge in the producer

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world. Run by Taz Taylor and Nick Mira. Massive.

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It is a hub for beat makers and artists. It gave

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him a community. It gave him access to better

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beats. And in June 2017, he releases his debut

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EP, 999. 999. That number became his logo. He

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had it tattooed. It was on his merch. What did

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it mean? It is an inversion of 666. If 666 is

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the mark of the beast of evil, of negativity,

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999 is taking whatever bad situation you're in,

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whatever demons you have, and flipping them into

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something positive. That was his entire philosophy.

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It was. And that EP had a song on it, a song

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that would change everything. It was called Lucid

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Dreams. Which brings us to section two, The Meteoric

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Rise, 2018. The year the world caught fire. If

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2017 was the simmer, 2018 was the explosion.

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It all happened so fast. So walk us through the

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mechanics of this rise. Because it doesn't start

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with a record label. It starts with a blog, right?

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It starts with Lyrical Lemonade. And a guy named

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Cole Bennett. We have to explain Cole Bennett

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to you if you aren't deep in this world. In 2018,

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if you were a rapper, Cole Bennett wasn't just

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a video director. He was a kingmaker. A tastemaker.

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He ran a blog and a YouTube channel called Lyrical

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Lemonade. His videos had a very specific style.

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Colorful, trippy, with cartoonish effects and

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quick edits. If he directed your video, you were

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guaranteed millions of views. It was like a cheat

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code for the music industry. It was a guaranteed

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cosign. So Juice releases an EP called Nothing's

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Different in late 2017. It has a song on it called

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All Girls Are the Same. Lyrical Lemonade picks

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it up. Cole Bennett reaches out. They shoot the

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video in February 2018. And I've seen that video.

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It is so simple, but it is so charismatic. It's

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just him in this trippy room and you can't take

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your eyes off him. And the industry reaction

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was instantaneous. A bidding war started. Every

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major label wanted him. And Interscope Records

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won. For $3 million. I want to be the skeptic

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here for a second. $3 million. For a 19 -year

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-old kid with a couple of SoundCloud hits. Does

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that make business sense? In 2018, yes. Because

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streaming was taking over, the labels realized

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that these kids on SoundCloud had built in fanatical

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fan bases. They didn't need radio play. They

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didn't need MTV. They already had the numbers.

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So Interscope wasn't paying for potential. No,

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they were buying an existing movement. They were

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buying a sure thing. And then they officially

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re -released Lucid Dreams as a single in May.

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And it becomes ubiquitous. It was everywhere.

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It peaked at number two on the Billboard Hot

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100. By January 2020, it had over a billion streams

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on Spotify alone. Let's break down Lucid Dreams

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musically. Right. Why did it work? Why did it

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cross over from hip -hop fans to pop fans to

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rock fans? It is the perfect synthesis of all

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his influences we just talked about. It's all

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there. It's built around a sample of Sting's...

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Which is a beautiful, melancholic, very sophisticated

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guitar riff. Right. So you have this classic

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adult contemporary pop sample, but then the producer,

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Nick Mira from Internet Money, puts these rattling

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trap hi -hats and a Fivvy 808 bass under it.

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So it is rock meets trap, pop meets hip -hop.

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And then Juice's vocal. He isn't rapping in a

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monotone. He is wailing. I still see your shadows

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in my room. It is pure, distilled teenage angst.

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it resonated with everyone who had ever had a

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breakup now this is the part that blows my mind

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we have the hit song we have the debut album

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goodbye and good riddance which comes out in

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may 2018 but the way he made these songs tell

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us about the no writing rule This is the key

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insight into his genius, and it's something people

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really struggle to comprehend. Higgins stated

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later that Lucid Dreams was the only track on

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that entire album that he wrote down on paper

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or in his phone. The only one. Out of the whole

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album, all those hits. The only one. Every other

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song, All Girls Are the Same, Lean With Me, Wasted,

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was done impromptu, freestyled. Explain that

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process to me, because when I think of freestyling,

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I think of someone at a party trying to rhyme

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cat with bat and stumbling. This is fully structured

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songwriting with choruses versus bridges. It

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is a process called punching in. He would go

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into the booth. The producer plays the beat.

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Juice listens for maybe 30 seconds, just gets

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a feel for it. Then he tells the engineer to

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hit record. He does two lines, stops. The engineer

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keeps it. He listens back, thinks for a second,

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then does the next two lines, stops. So he is

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building the song brick by brick in real time.

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Exactly. He is composing the melody, the lyrics,

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the flow, and the harmonies simultaneously off

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the top of his head. He said if he was alone,

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he'd do it into his voice memo so he wouldn't

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forget the idea. So he is composing and performing

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at the exact same time. Yes. It is a pure flow

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state. He described it as just letting the emotion

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out without a filter. If he stopped to write

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it down, he felt he would overthink it. He felt

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it would lose its purity. That requires a level

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of cognitive processing speed that is actually

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scary. It's like his brain was a supercomputer

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for melody. It is why he was so prolific. Most

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artists take weeks to write a song. Juice could

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record five, six, seven fully finished songs

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in a single night. But 2018 wasn't just a victory

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lap. It was also a year of tragedy for the specific

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community he was part of. The SoundCloud scene

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was incredibly fragile. In November 2017, just

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as Juice was starting to bubble, Lil Peep...

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died of an overdose. Who was arguably the pioneer

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of this emo rap sound. He was. He laid the groundwork.

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And then in June 2018, right after Goodbye and

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Good Riddance came out, XXXTentacion was murdered

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in Florida. And Juice knew them, right? Or at

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least knew of them. He looked up to them. He

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was becoming friends with X. The sources say

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they were actually planning to meet up for the

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first time. Wow. So when X died, Juice released

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a two -song EP called Too Soon. It was an immediate

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reaction. The cover art was literally a screenshot

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of his text messages with ex -excentation talking

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about supporting each other. That is so raw.

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It is like grieving in real time on the internet

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for millions of people to see. And that brings

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us to the genre itself. We keep saying emo rap.

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In 2018, Spotify named it the fastest growing

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genre on its platform. But what is it, really?

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Yeah, because to an older listener, emo means

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My Chemical Romance or Fall Out Boy. And rap

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means Tupac. Mixing them sounds like oil and

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water. But musically, it makes perfect sense.

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Both genres are about high emotion. Both are

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about being an outsider. Both are about heartbreak.

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Juice WRLD was the bridge. He took the aesthetics

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of emo, the vocal melodies, the lyrics about

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depression, the singing, and put them over trap

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beats. Did he like the label? Did he want to

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be called an emo rapper? He had a nuanced take

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on it. On one hand, he didn't want to be boxed

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in. He famously said, I don't make emo rap, I

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make music. But he also acknowledged the core

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truth of it. He believed music needed to be dark

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because, in his words, the world isn't a light

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or happy place. He wasn't trying to sell a party

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fantasy? No. Even his upbeat songs have this

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undercurrent of sadness or anxiety to them. We

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talked about his rock influences. But his hip

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hop influences are interesting, too. He cited

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Kanye West as a major one. Specifically the album

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808s and Heartbreak. Which came out in 2008 when

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Juice was, what, 10 years old? Yeah. And Juice

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called Kanye a time traveler for making that

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album. Because if you listen to 808s today, the

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heavy auto -tune singing, the raw vulnerability,

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the focus on loss and heartbreak. It basically

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predicted Juice WRLD's entire career 10 years

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early. It laid the blueprint. It absolutely did.

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And Juice took that blueprint and added the punk

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rock ethos of Billy Idol and the grit of Chief

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Keef. It was a unique cocktail. Let's talk about

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the lyrical themes, because this is where the

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connection with the audience really happened.

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He wasn't just rapping about how much money he

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had. Well, sometimes he was. But mostly he was

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rapping about how much he was hurting. Vulnerability

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is the key word. He talked about addiction not

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as a cool party trick, but as a case. as a trap

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he couldn't escape. The song Lean Wit Me is the

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perfect example of this. It is almost a public

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service announcement set to a trap beat. The

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music video is literally him at an Alcoholics

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Anonymous meeting. He sings, told her if I die,

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I'ma die young. He was hyper aware of his own

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mortality. And that is the thing that makes listening

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to him now so difficult. He was telling us what

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was going to happen. He was screaming it from

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the rooftops. He was turning his struggle into

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art that millions of kids could relate to, hoping

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it would help them, even if he couldn't save

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himself. And before we move on, I want to emphasize

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that his freestyling wasn't just for the studio.

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He would go on. radio shows, Tim Westwood in

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the UK, Funk Flex in New York, and just go for

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an hour straight. Over classic boom bap beats,

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Eminem beats, Nas beats, he proved he could wrap

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circles around traditional MCs. He valued that

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duality being the sad boy singer for his albums

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and the lyrical monster on the radio. He had

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to prove he was the complete package. He did.

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He shut up all the critics who said he couldn't

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really rap. So we move into the height of his

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fame. 2018 turns into 2019. He is arguably the

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biggest new artist in the world. He is inescapable.

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He drops a collaborative mixtape with Future

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called World on Drugs. Which is a huge cosign.

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Future's a titan of the genre. Exactly. Then

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he's on No Bystanders with Travis Scott on Astroworld,

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one of the biggest albums of the decade. He's

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collaborating with BTS, the biggest band in the

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world, with RM and Suga. He's working with Ellie

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Goulding and Benny Blanco on pop hits. He is

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crossing over into pop, K -pop, electronic. And

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he goes on tour with Nicki Minaj. The Nicki World

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Tour, a massive European arena tour. He was her

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co -headliner. And this is where we have to talk

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about the lifestyle. Because the pressure of

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touring, I don't think people realize what that

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does to a person physically and mentally. It

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is absolutely grueling. You are in a different

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city every night. You are performing for thousands

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of people, giving them all your energy. Then

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you get on a bus or a plane. You don't sleep.

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Your body clock is a mess. And if you are already

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struggling with anxiety and addiction. The drugs.

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Become the only way to cope. They become a tool

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for the job. You take uppers to get on stage,

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downers to sleep. It is a vicious, vicious cycle.

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His personal life was also incredibly complicated

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during this time. He was living in Los Angeles

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with his girlfriend, Allie Lottie. They had a

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very intense, very public relationship. You could

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see it all on Instagram. They were always together.

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But there was deep tragedy there, too, behind

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the scenes. The sources mention this, and it's

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just awful. Lottie revealed later in interviews

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that she was pregnant with Higgins' baby on three

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separate occasions. Three times. Three times.

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And all three resulted in miscarriages. My God.

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She attributed it to the stress of their lifestyles,

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the constant movement, the chaos, the drugs.

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Imagine dealing with that level of grief while

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having to smile for cameras every day and perform

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for 20 ,000 people. It's an unimaginable amount

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of pressure. And the addiction was ramping up.

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Everyone around him could see it. He was getting

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out of control. But here is the glimmer of hope

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that makes the end so much more bitter. The sources

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note that Higgins had actually agreed to go to

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rehab. He was going to go. Yes. His team had

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intervened. He had agreed to it just weeks prior

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to his death. He knew he was in too deep. He

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wanted to get clean. But he never made it. He

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never made it. That brings us to December 8,

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2019, the day everything stopped. It is a timeline

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that has been scrutinized heavily through police

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reports and witness interviews. Higgins was aboard

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a private Gulfstream jet. They were flying from

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Van Moys Airport in Los Angeles back home to

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Chicago. He was heading home for his birthday

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party, essentially, a delayed celebration. He

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had just turned 21 on December 2nd. So he was

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six days into being 21 years old. But this wasn't

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a normal flight. Law enforcement was waiting

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for them. No. Federal agents had been notified

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that there were suspected guns and drugs on board.

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We don't know exactly who tipped them off. The

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sources suggest it was the pilot, which is standard

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procedure if they see illegal activity. But the

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police were waiting at Midway Airport. So the

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plane lands. They taxi to a private hangar. Yeah.

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And the police are there. They board the plane.

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They start searching luggage. And they find a

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lot. 70 pounds of marijuana. 32 kilograms. Vacuum

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-sealed bags in multiple suitcases, along with

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several handguns and high -capacity magazines.

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Now, 70 pounds. That is not for personal use.

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That is a significant amount that's a trafficking

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charge. It is. But that is a legal issue. That

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is not a fatal issue. His security guards were

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likely going to take the charge for the guns.

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He probably would have gotten a fine for the

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weed. No. The fatality comes from what happened

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during the search. According to witnesses from

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his team and the police reports, while the agents

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were searching the bags, Higgins took and swallowed

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several pills. The narrative has always been

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that he swallowed them to hide them from the

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cops? Yeah. Is that true? That was the initial

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theory, panic swallowing. It seemed logical.

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But his videographer, Chris Long, who was on

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the plane, disputed that later. He said Juice

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didn't care about the police finding a few pills

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when they already had 70 pounds of weed. He implied

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it was just usage. Or maybe a mix of panic and

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addiction. We'll never know his exact intent.

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But we know the pills were Percocet. Yes. Multiple

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Percocet pills. A powerful opioid. And the biological

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result is not up for debate. No. He started convulsing.

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He went into a seizure right there on the tarmac

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inside the hangar. Did they try to save him?

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They did. The federal agents actually administered

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Narcan, which they carry for situations like

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this. Narcan is the overdose reversal drug. Naloxone.

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Right. They gave him two doses. And according

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to the reports, he did wake up briefly, but he

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was incoherent. He was immediately transported

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to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oakland.

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And he was pronounced dead. At 3 .14 a .m. Just

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gone. The autopsy report came out later. What

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was the official cause? Toxic levels of oxycodone

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and codeine in his system. It was ruled an accidental

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overdose. The reaction from the music world was...

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It was just a gut punch. It was like the air

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was sucked out of the room. Drake, The Weeknd,

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Chance the Rapper, everyone posted tributes immediately.

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It felt like the entire industry stopped for

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a day. I remember there was some anger, too.

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Rapper Boosie Badazz went on this rant. Yeah,

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Boosie blamed the pilot. He called him a snitch.

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He basically said if the pilot hadn't called

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the cops, Juice wouldn't have panicked and he

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wouldn't be dead. He later walked that back,

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realizing it's more complex, but it showed how

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angry people were. They wanted someone to blame

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for an unspeakable tragedy. And then there was

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the eeriness of his own lyrics. It was inescapable.

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The song Legends. He wrote it in memory of Lil

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Peep and XX Tentation. What's the 27 Club? We

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ain't making it past 21. It is one of the most

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haunting, prophetic lines in modern music history.

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He didn't just sing it, he lived it. and died

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by it. So Jared Higgins is gone. But this brings

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us to the final and perhaps most complex part

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of our deep dive, the aftermath. Because Juice

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WRLD, the artist, he didn't stop. In fact, commercially,

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he got bigger, much bigger. Let's look at the

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first posthumous album, Legends Never Die, released

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in July 2020. The numbers are staggering. It

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debuted at number one. That was expected. But

00:26:44.240 --> 00:26:46.759
listen to this. Five songs from that album were

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in the Billboard Hot 100 top 10 simultaneously.

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Dive at once in the top 10. Yes. The only other

00:26:52.799 --> 00:26:54.539
artists to ever do that in the history of the

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chart are the Beatles and Drake. That puts him

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in the rarest of air. That's God tier. In 2020,

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the year after he died, he was streamed over

00:27:01.839 --> 00:27:05.579
5 .9 billion times on Spotify. He was the fourth

00:27:05.579 --> 00:27:08.480
most streamed artist globally, above many living

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:10.849
superstars. Why? Why did the popularity grow

00:27:10.849 --> 00:27:13.349
so much after the death? I think the death validated

00:27:13.349 --> 00:27:16.309
the lyrics. When he was alive and he sang about

00:27:16.309 --> 00:27:18.869
dying young, it was sad, it was art. When he

00:27:18.869 --> 00:27:21.329
actually died young, those songs became sacred

00:27:21.329 --> 00:27:24.470
texts. They became prophecies. Fans felt like

00:27:24.470 --> 00:27:26.809
he died for them in a weird way. He was the martyr

00:27:26.809 --> 00:27:29.170
of their generation's anxiety. And the estate

00:27:29.170 --> 00:27:31.740
run by his mother and the record label? has kept

00:27:31.740 --> 00:27:33.880
the content coming there's another album fighting

00:27:33.880 --> 00:27:37.420
demons in december 2021 this one was tied to

00:27:37.420 --> 00:27:40.880
an hbo documentary juice world into the abyss

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i saw that it is incredibly hard to watch it

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is it uses tons of archival behind -the -scenes

00:27:46.160 --> 00:27:49.299
footage to show the drug use in graphic unflinching

00:27:49.299 --> 00:27:51.819
detail it doesn't glamorize it at all it's a

00:27:51.819 --> 00:27:54.200
very stark look at his mental health struggles

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and the releases just keep coming Girl of My

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Dreams with Suga from BTS got him his first number

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one on the digital song sales chart. And they've

00:28:02.349 --> 00:28:04.769
announced a final studio album, The Party Never

00:28:04.769 --> 00:28:08.509
Ends. And even recently, late 2024, they are

00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:10.910
still innovating the Fortnite collaboration.

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This is fascinating to me. Epic Games added Juice

00:28:14.349 --> 00:28:16.829
WRLD as a playable character, a skin, in Fortnite.

00:28:16.910 --> 00:28:19.609
They did a virtual concert inside the game. Some

00:28:19.609 --> 00:28:23.119
people find that dystopian. A digital ghost performing

00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:25.559
for kids in a video game. It is a big black mirror.

00:28:25.779 --> 00:28:27.700
It is. But you can also see the other side of

00:28:27.700 --> 00:28:30.259
it. It introduces him to a 12 -year -old today

00:28:30.259 --> 00:28:32.059
who might have been too young to know him in

00:28:32.059 --> 00:28:35.500
2018. It keeps the legacy alive for a new generation.

00:28:36.019 --> 00:28:39.460
But amidst all the commerce, the skins, the streams,

00:28:39.700 --> 00:28:42.460
the posthumous albums, there is one part of the

00:28:42.460 --> 00:28:46.740
legacy that feels truly pure. The live free 999

00:28:46.740 --> 00:28:50.180
fund. This is his mother's work, Carmella Wallace.

00:28:50.750 --> 00:28:52.789
Tell us about that. She established the funds

00:28:52.789 --> 00:28:55.849
to support programs for young, underserved populations,

00:28:56.049 --> 00:28:58.329
specifically focusing on addiction, anxiety,

00:28:58.609 --> 00:29:00.950
and depression. She's using the profits from

00:29:00.950 --> 00:29:03.329
his estate to fund this. She could have hidden

00:29:03.329 --> 00:29:05.150
the cause of death. She could have said heart

00:29:05.150 --> 00:29:07.470
failure to avoid the stigma. A lot of families

00:29:07.470 --> 00:29:10.269
do. Right. But she didn't. She leaned into it.

00:29:10.569 --> 00:29:12.789
Her goal is to normalize the conversation about

00:29:12.789 --> 00:29:14.849
mental health and addiction. She wants to say,

00:29:14.930 --> 00:29:16.769
my son struggled, and if you are struggling,

00:29:16.990 --> 00:29:19.670
it is okay to get help. It is about turning that

00:29:19.670 --> 00:29:23.009
999 concept into real world action. It's an incredible

00:29:23.009 --> 00:29:26.450
act of grace, really. So as we wrap up, we have

00:29:26.450 --> 00:29:30.190
looked at a life that was short, fast, brilliant,

00:29:30.349 --> 00:29:34.210
and tragic. The ultimate paradox. A kid who wasn't

00:29:34.210 --> 00:29:36.730
allowed to listen to hip hop, who ended up changing

00:29:36.730 --> 00:29:39.130
the sound of hip hop forever. He made it okay

00:29:39.130 --> 00:29:41.670
to be vulnerable. That is the key takeaway, I

00:29:41.670 --> 00:29:44.049
think. He told the toughest kids in the room

00:29:44.049 --> 00:29:46.609
that it was okay to cry. He gave a voice to a

00:29:46.609 --> 00:29:49.349
generation's pain. I want to leave you with a

00:29:49.349 --> 00:29:51.109
provocative thought, something for you to chew

00:29:51.109 --> 00:29:53.990
on. We talked about his process, the freestyling,

00:29:54.029 --> 00:29:56.769
the no writing. Because of that workflow, he

00:29:56.769 --> 00:29:59.349
was a machine. Reports and leaks suggest there

00:29:59.349 --> 00:30:01.549
are thousands of unreleased Juice WRLD songs

00:30:01.549 --> 00:30:03.970
in a vault somewhere. Just sitting on hard drives,

00:30:04.190 --> 00:30:07.150
complete songs, rough demos, voice memos. In

00:30:07.150 --> 00:30:09.920
this new era of AI. where we can recreate voices

00:30:09.920 --> 00:30:12.160
with perfect clarity and with this massive backlog

00:30:12.160 --> 00:30:15.259
of unfinished demos, who gets to decide what

00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:18.000
is a Juice WRLD song now? It is the great ethical

00:30:18.000 --> 00:30:20.160
dilemma of the modern music industry, and he

00:30:20.160 --> 00:30:22.279
is case study number one. Do we let a producer

00:30:22.279 --> 00:30:24.619
finish a beat? Do we let an AI clean up a vocal?

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Are we honoring the dead by finishing their work?

00:30:27.579 --> 00:30:30.140
Or are we just consuming them? If he didn't put

00:30:30.140 --> 00:30:32.220
his final stamp on it, if he didn't say, it's

00:30:32.220 --> 00:30:36.740
done, is it art? Or is it just content? That

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is the question. Thanks for diving deep with

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us today. See you next time.
