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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today, we are

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looking at a stack of sources that, if you just

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glanced at the headlines, would look like a total

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scattershot collection. You really would. We've

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got Wikipedia entries on a seminal 1960s girl

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group, a breakdown of a legendary session band,

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the forensic details of the final Beatles album,

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and then a review of a David Mamet film from

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2013. I mean, it does look like a random assortment

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when you lay them all out on the table like this.

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You have the Ronettes, you have the Wrecking

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Crew, you have... The let it be disaster. And

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a murder trial in a castle. And a murder trial

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in a castle. Exactly. But the mission today is

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to pull the thread that runs through all of this.

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Because there is a single, very distinct, very

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dark thread connecting the beehive hairdos of

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1963 to the forensic evidence of 2003. And that

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thread is Phil Spector. That's the guy. He's

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the connective tissue. He is the central figure

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in all of these stories. Without a doubt. So

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we're going to explore the wall of sound. And

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I don't just mean it was loud. We need to get

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into the physics of what he actually did. We're

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going to talk about the brilliant, often anonymous

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musicians who actually played the notes that

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made him famous. We're going to look at his collision

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course with the biggest band in the world, the

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Beatles. And then, well, we have to go to the

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dark. Final act. It really is a trajectory, isn't

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it? It goes from pop perfection to total disintegration

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and then finally to crime. And looking at the

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sources, Spector's characterized as this figure

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of immense contradiction. Attraction and repulsion.

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Exactly. He created what he called little symphonies

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for the kids, these massive emotional records

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that really defined a generation. But the sources

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also paint a picture of a man capable of what

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they call hostile lethargy, intense manipulation,

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and eventually... It's the contrast between the

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joy of discovery in the music and the absolute

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chaos of his personal life. It's almost a cliche

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of the torture genius. But in this case, the

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torture was, you know, often inflicted on others.

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So let's unpack this. We have to start at the

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beginning of the sound. We have to talk about

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the Ronettes. The Ronettes are fascinating because

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before they were the icons with the eyeliner

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and the attitude, they were essentially a family

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act. You have Veronica Bennett. who we all know

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as Ronnie Spector, her sister Estelle, and their

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cousin Nedra Talley. The Darling Sisters, right?

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That was one of their original names? That was

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one of them, yes. They grew up in Washington

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Heights, Manhattan. And the sources describe

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this really wholesome, almost storybook beginning.

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They were singing at their grandmother's house

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on Saturday nights just to entertain each other.

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This wasn't a polished industry plant. This was

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family. It sounds so innocent, especially considering

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where the story goes. But they weren't just singing

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hymns. They were looking at acts like Frankie

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Lyman and the Teenagers and thinking, we can

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do that. Oh, absolutely. But here is the aha

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moment for me in their origin story. Yeah. Usually

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in these biographies, you hear about a record

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executive discovering a group in a church choir

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or, you know, a talent show. Sure. The usual

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story. With the Ronettes, it was basically a

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heist. It was a case of mistaken identity at

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the Peppermint Lounge. I love this detail. This

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is 1961, the height of the twist craze. The Peppermint

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Lounge is the place to be. It's the epicenter

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of cool. And the girls, Ronnie, Estelle, and

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Nedra, they are desperate to get in. But they're

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underage. So they decide to disguise themselves.

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And this isn't just putting on a hat. Right.

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The sources say their mothers and grandmothers

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actually helped them stuff their bras, put on

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heavy makeup, and tease their hair up to look

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like they were at least 23 years old. Wait, wait.

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The grandmothers were in on it. It was a family

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conspiracy. They wanted those girls on that stage.

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And it worked a little too well. They arrive

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outside the club dressed to the nines and the

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manager mistakes them for the house dancers who

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were supposed to back up Joey D and the star

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leaders. He basically ushers them in past the

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velvet rope and just throws them on stage. No

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way. So they went there to dance and they ended

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up performing. That is the definition of fake

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it till you make it. They absolutely ended up

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performing. And during the show, one of the star

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leaders hands the mic to Ronnie during Ray Charles's.

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What I say. Now, Ronnie was a shy girl offstage,

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but once she had that mic, she just belted it

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out. Wow. And that accidental night led to a

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permanent gig. They became the dancing girls

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at the Peppermint Lounge, making $10 a night.

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Which was decent money for a teenager in 1961.

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But more importantly, this is where they developed

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the look. The look was crucial. We were talking

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about the exaggerated eye makeup, the Cleopatra

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eyes. And as the source describes it, enormous

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hairdos piled a foot or so over our heads. A

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foot high. That's structural engineering, not

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just styling. It was a uniform. It was an identity.

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Ronnie later said, we didn't want to look like

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everyone else. We want to look like bad girls.

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They were creating a visual identity that was

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just as loud and aggressive as the rock and roll

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they wanted to sing. Okay, so they have the look,

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they have the gig, but they're still just dancers.

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For a while, yeah. Eventually, they get tired

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of just being dancers or recording for Colpix

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Records without much success. So in early 1963,

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Estelle makes a cold call to Phil Spector. And

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this is where the central figure enters the story.

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Spector was already a hotshot producer at this

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point, right? He's the man. He's the boy genius.

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Yeah. He'd have massive hits with the Crystals.

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He agrees to audition them. And the story goes

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that they start singing. Why do fools fall in

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love? And Spector literally jumps up from his

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seat shouting, that's it, that's it, that's the

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voice I've been looking for. He heard the texture

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in Ronnie's voice, that specific vibrato, that

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sort of crackle. He did. But here is where we

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see the first signs, the control dynamics that

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would define Spector's entire life. He originally

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wanted to sign only Ronnie. He wanted to break

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up the group immediately, just strip the sisters

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and the cousin away. Instantly. He saw Ronnie

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as the star and the others as baggage. But Ronnie's

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mother put a foot down. She said it's a group

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package or nothing. Good for her. So Spector

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agreed, but the manipulation started almost immediately.

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The sources mentioned that their first few recordings

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with him, tracks like The Twist and The Wawa

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Tusi, were actually released under the name The

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Crystals. That is so deceptive. So the Renettes

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sang them. They did the work, but... The Crystals

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got the credit on the label. Exactly. Spector

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was just juggling these groups and he owned the

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names. He treated the artists like interchangeable

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parts in his machine. It kept them insecure.

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It kept them wondering where they stood. But

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then came July 1963. The big one. Be My Baby.

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This is the breakthrough. This is where the wall

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of sound truly cements itself. And there's a

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fascinating detail in the production notes for

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this song regarding the backup vocals. Oh, yeah.

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When they were recording, a young woman named

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Cher, who was then just the shy girlfriend of

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Sonny Bono, who was Spector's gopher, was hanging

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around the studio. Cher, as in the Cher before

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she was famous. The very same. A backup singer

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was a no -show, so they grabbed Cher. She was

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terrified, apparently. It was her first time

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ever singing on a record. No way. So she's buried

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in the background of Be My Baby, just another

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brick in the wall. That is wild. You have Ronnie,

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Spector, and Cher on the same track in 1963.

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But let's talk about that wall. Because... Be

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My Baby is the definitive example. People use

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the term wall of sound all the time, but the

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sources break down how he actually did it. It

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wasn't just turning the volume knob to 11. No,

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it was a very specific architectural process.

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It all happened at Gold Star Studios in L .A.

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First, you have to understand the room. It was

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small. And Spectre would jam a massive amount

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of musicians into it. We're talking three pianos,

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five guitars, two basses, all playing at the

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same time. So instead of one guitar player, he

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has an army of them playing the same chord. Exactly.

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It creates this huge, dense sound. Yeah. And

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he relied on something that modern producers

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try to avoid at all costs. Lickage. Explain that

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for us. In modern recording, you isolate everything.

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The drums are in a booth. The singer's in a booth.

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You want clean separation between every instrument.

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Spector did the absolute opposite. He wanted

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the sound of the guitars to bleed into the drum

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microphones. He wanted the pianos to bleed into

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the bass mics. It created this thick, muddy,

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cohesive texture where you couldn't really tell

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where one instrument ended and another began.

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It becomes a single organism of sound. Right.

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And then the secret sauce, the echo chambers.

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Gold Star had these small, concrete, trapezoidal

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rooms in the back. Spectre would pump that muddy

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sound from the studio into these concrete bunkers,

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let it bounce around, and then record that reverberation.

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That's what gives Be My Baby that cavernous,

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almost apocalyptic sound. And he insisted on

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mono, right? Even when stereo was becoming a

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thing. He hated stereo. He said stereo was for

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people who wanted to hear the separation. He

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wanted to control exactly what you heard from

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one speaker. He called it a keyhole. He looks

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at the keyhole and you see exactly what he wants

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you to see. If you have two speakers... The listener

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has some control over the balance. Spectre wanted

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total control. There's that word again. Control.

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He controlled the mix. He controlled the release.

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And Be My Baby was a smash. Number two on Billboard.

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It influenced everyone. Brian Wilson of the Beach

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Boys was so obsessed with it that he apparently

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listened to it thousands of times. He wrote Don't

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Worry Baby as a direct homage to it. It was the

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absolute peak of the wall of sound. But as we

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know, the partnership didn't stay strictly professional,

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and the control moved from the mixing board to

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the living room. It did. As the Ronettes' popularity

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started to wane around 1965, partly because the

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Supremes and the Motown sound were rising. Spector's

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control over Ronnie just tightened. They married

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in 1968, but by then he was allegedly refusing

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to release their finished songs. This is the

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part that drives me crazy. Why would he bury

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his own artists? Why record a hit and then just

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shelve it? The theory, and what Ronnie later

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claimed in her book, was that he was terrified

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they would outshine him. He held back songs like

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Chapel of Love, which then became a massive number

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one hit for the Dixie Cups instead. That has

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to be devastating for an artist. To see your

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song, your vocal, become a hit for someone else

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because your producer, your husband, won't release

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it. It creates a sense of utter hopelessness.

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And it got so much worse. The group split in

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1967. And the sources describe Ronnie's life

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in their 23 -room mansion as being that of a

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virtual prisoner. I've read about the shoes.

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Yes. The sources mentioned he would hide her

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shoes so she couldn't leave the house. He installed

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intercoms in every single room so he could monitor

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her. He had a glass coffin in the basement. A

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coffin? A gold glass -lidded coffin. And he told

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her he'd put her in it if she ever tried to leave

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him. It's like a horror movie. A gothic horror

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story. She eventually had to flee in 1972. She

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literally ran away barefoot with her mother's

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help to escape him. So you see this pattern.

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He discovers the talent, he captures the sound,

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and then he tries to capture the person. And

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while he was capturing that sound, he wasn't

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doing it alone. We talk about the wall of sound

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as if Spector built it brick by brick with his

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own hands, but he had a construction crew. Yeah.

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A very specific, very elite group of people.

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He absolutely did. And that brings us to section

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two of our deep dive. The Wrecking Crew. This

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is a group that I feel like the general public

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is only just starting to appreciate maybe in

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the last decade or so, thanks to the documentary.

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But these guys, they were everywhere. They were

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the engine room of 1960s pop. The Wrecking Crew

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was a loose collective of Los Angeles session

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musicians who played on almost every major hit

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from roughly 1962 to 1972. When you say loose

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collective, what does that mean? Were they a

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band? Did they have like a union card that said

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a wrecking crew? They were all union musicians,

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but they weren't a band in the sense that they

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toured together or had a logo. They were the

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first call players. And to understand why they

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were the first call, you have to understand the

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economics of studio time in 1962. Time is money.

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Exactly. Tape was expensive. Studio rental was

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astronomical. If you hired a garage band or a

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young pop act, they might take 50 takes to get

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the rhythm right. They might get nervous. They

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might drift out of tune. Hal Blaine, the drummer

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for the Wrecking Crew, could nail it in one take.

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So they were insurance policies. Precisely. They

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were the difference between a $500 session and

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a $5 ,000 disaster. You hired them because they

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were surgical. But where did the name come from?

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The Wrecking Crew. It sounds aggressive. A little

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dangerous. That is actually a point of major

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contention in the sources. It's a bit of a he

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said, she said. Hal Blaine, the drummer. claims

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he coined the name. He said the old guard of

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session musicians, the guys in the blue blazers

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who played on Sinatra Records, felt that this

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new generation playing rock and roll in t -shirts

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was wrecking the music business. So they embraced

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the insult? Kind of punk rock. According to Blaine,

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yes. But Carol Kay... the bassist and we absolutely

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need to talk about her she disputes this entirely

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she claims they were never called that at the

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time she says they were called the clique the

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clique sounds a lot more exclusive but i gotta

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say the wrecking crew definitely has better marketing

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it has more grit for sure and these musicians

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had grit you look at the roster how blaine is

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reputed to have played on 40 number one hits

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40 40 number ones. That is statistically insane.

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That's more than the Beatles and Elvis combined.

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And 140 top 10 hits. The famous drum beat on

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Be My Baby, that boom, boom, boom. That's Hal

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Blaine. Of course it is. Then you have Carol

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Kay. She started as a jazz guitarist and switched

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to bass. She was one of the only women in this

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heavily male -dominated industry. And she didn't

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just survive. She dominated. She played on The

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Beat Goes On, right? That bass line is the song.

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That iconic sliding bass line. That's her. She

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also played on La Bamba, Good Vibrations. Yeah.

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She invented bass lines that were hooks in themselves.

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Wow. And you had Glen Campbell. Before he was

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the rhinestone cowboy country star, he was a

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session guitarist for the crew. He played all

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over the Beach Boys' Pet Sounds. I think people

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forget that Glen Campbell was a guitar virtuoso

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before he was a singer. A monster player. He

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was a workhorse. And Leon Russell was there on

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keyboards. Before his own solo career took off.

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These were just immensely talented people who

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could read music on site. I mean, literally look

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at a sheet of paper they've never seen before

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and play it perfectly and also improvise instantly.

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And this leads to what the outline calls the

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ghost players aspect. This is the secret part

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of the industry that the labels didn't want the

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kids at home to know about. This is the scandal.

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Because the public bought records thinking they

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were listening to a specific band, but often

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they were actually listening to the wrecking

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crew. Give us the biggest example, the one that

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still shocks people. The Byrds. Mr. Tambourine

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Man. Iconic number one folk rock song. Sure.

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I can picture the band on the album cover with

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their Rick and Becker guitars. Well, keep picturing

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the cover because that's just about the only

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place they were. The only member of the Byrds

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playing an instrument on that track was Roger

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McGuinn. on his 12 string guitar you're kidding

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me the rest of the band the producer didn't think

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they were seasoned enough so the drums the bass

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the rhythm guitars that was the wrecking crew

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so the band is the face but the wrecking crew

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is the muscle precisely the same thing happened

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with the beach boys the band played on their

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early surf hits for sure But when Brian Wilson

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moved into his complex Pet Sounds and Smile era,

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he needed an orchestra. He brought in the Wrecking

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Crew. They were the ones who could execute those

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complex symphonies he heard in his head. So the

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other Beach Boys, the touring band, basically

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had to learn how to play the songs later to perform

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them live. Exactly. And the Monkees. Oh, that

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was the famous one. The Monkees were the poster

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children for this. The crew played on their first

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two albums almost entirely. It wasn't until later

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that the band actually revolted. They fought

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for the right to play their own instruments on

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their own records. It was a huge battle for authenticity.

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So how does this connect back to Spector? He

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was the ultimate auteur. He used the crew as

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his palette. Remember, he didn't want individuals.

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He didn't want a star guitar player with a flashy

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solo. He wanted a sound. The ranking crew were

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professionals who could check their ego at the

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door, sit in a room for 12 hours, and play the

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same three chords over and over and over until

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Spector got his leakage right. They were the

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perfect tool for a control freak. Reliable, talented,

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and most importantly, anonymous. Exactly. And

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for a long, long time, the architect got all

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the credit. Okay, so we have the architect of

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sound, and we have his elite construction crew.

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Now we move to section three. The Collision Course.

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Spectre meets the only band that was bigger than

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him, the Beatles. This is one of the most controversial,

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most debated chapters in all of music history.

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The Let It Be album. Right. And context here

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is key. It's January 1969. The Beatles are, for

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lack of a better word, imploding. Imploding is

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absolutely the right word. The project was originally

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called Get Back. The whole idea was to return

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to their roots. Live performance. No overdubs.

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No orchestras. Just a four -piece rock and roll

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band playing together in a room. Which sounds

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great in theory, a palate cleanser after the

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complexity and the tension of the White Album.

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In theory. In reality, the sources describe hostile

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lethargy at Twickenham Studios. You have cameras

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rolling constantly for a documentary, which stressed

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everyone out. You have George Harrison briefly

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quitting the band because he felt his songs were

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being ignored. He felt disrespected. Totally.

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You have John Lennon and Yoko Ono, who are inseparable.

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And sources note their heroin addiction was taking

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a toll on their engagement and creativity. And

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then you have Paul McCartney trying to be the

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cheerleader, keeping it all moving, but being

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seen as bossy and controlling by the others.

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It's just a miserable atmosphere. And this all

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culminates in the famous rooftop concert. Right.

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January 30th, 1969, their final public performance.

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They played a few songs up on the roof of the

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Apple building. The police came and shut it down.

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And that was it. The get -back sessions were

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over. But they had all these tapes. Just hours

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and hours of recording. And nobody knew what

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to do with them. They were a mess. They handed

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them to their engineer, Glenn Johns. He compiled

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multiple versions of the album, trying to honor

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that original live concept. So he kept it raw.

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Very raw and very rough. He included studio chatter.

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False starts. He wanted it to sound like a fly

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-on -the -wall documentary of a band at work.

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Which totally matches the get -back concept.

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It did. But the Beatles rejected his versions.

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Multiple times. They just couldn't agree on anything.

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So the tapes just sat on a shelf. The band moved

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on, recorded the masterpiece that is Abbey Road,

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released it, and for all intents and purposes,

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broke up. So the Let It Be tapes are just gathering

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dust. It's the great lost album. And then in

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1970, Alan Klein, their new manager, and John

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Lennon invite Phil Spector to save the project.

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They basically handed the wall sound guy the

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tapes from the Strict Back Roots project. I mean,

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it was a philosophical mismatch from day one.

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So Spector gets the tapes. What does he actually

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do? Because people talk about him ruining it,

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but what were the specific changes he made? He

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treated the Beatles like they were the Ronettes

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or the Crystals. He took Across the Universe,

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which was a delicate, almost psychedelic acoustic

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track, and he slowed it down to make it sound

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more mournful and added a choir. He added snippets

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of studio chatter like Bigot and Maggie Mae to

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give it this weird, fragmented narrative flow.

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But the big controversy, the nuclear option,

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was The Long and Winding Road. This is the famous

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dispute, the core of the issue. McCartney wrote

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The Long and Winding Road as a simple, sparse

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piano ballad. He wanted it to be really intimate.

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Spector listened to it and decided it wasn't

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epic enough. So without asking Paul, He hired

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an orchestra. A full orchestra? A 50 -piece orchestra

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with strings, brass, and a 14 -woman choir. He

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added harps. He layered this massive, schmaltzy

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Hollywood production over Paul's simple piano

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vocal. And Paul was not happy. Paul was furious.

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He was absolutely livid. He felt Spector had

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vandalized the song, ruined its integrity. He

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didn't even know what was happening until he

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received the finished Assipate. He tried to get

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it changed, but the album was already being pressed.

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But let's play devil's advocate for Spector here.

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I mean... We bashed him for overproducing, and

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Paul hated it. But didn't Lennon and Harrison

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have a point? Those tapes were a mess. They were.

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Without Spector gluing them together with those

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orchestras and choirs, would Let It Be have even

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been releasable? That is the counterargument,

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and it's a very strong one. Lennon defended it

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vigorously for the rest of his life. He said

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Spector was given the shittiest load of badly

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recorded shit. Those are his words. And he made

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something commercial and listenable out of it.

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And frankly, he was right commercially. The album

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topped the charts. The single was a number one

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hit. So McCartney sees vandalism, Lennon sees

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salvage. Exactly. And George Martin, their longtime

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producer, he felt completely sidelined and insulted.

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His reaction is legendary. He said the album

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credits should read, produced by George Martin,

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overproduced by Phil Spector. Ouch. That is the

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polite British way of saying this is garbage.

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The critics pretty much agreed. The NME called

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the album a cardboard tombstone. Rolling Stone

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criticized the embellishments. But the grievance

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lasted for decades. In 2003, McCartney finally

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spearheaded Let It Be Naked. Right. This was

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a remix project that stripped away all of Spector's

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overdubs. He finally got the last word. He did.

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It totally validated his original vision. But

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it also just highlights how divisive Spector's

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influence was. You could take a Beatles album

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and make it sound like a Phil Spector album.

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It really speaks to the power of the producer.

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Spector wasn't just capturing the sound. He was

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imposing his will on it, just like he imposed

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his will on the Ronettes. The parallel is striking,

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isn't it? Whether it was his wife or the biggest

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band in the world, Spector had to be the dominant

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force. So the 60s end, the Beatles break up,

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the wrecking crew starts to fade away. Let's

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talk about the aftermath in Section 4, the legal

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battles and the financial realities, because

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the glamour wears off pretty quickly when you

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look at the bank accounts. This is the really

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sobering part of the story. In 1988, the Ronettes

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finally sued Phil Spector. They were seeking

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$10 million in unpaid royalties and licensing

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income. 1988, that's 25 years after Be My Baby.

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That is a long time to wait for a paycheck. And

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the statistic that came out during the trial

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was just, it was shocking. Despite having these

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chart -topping world -famous songs, despite being

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icons whose look inspired Amy Winehouse and whose

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sound inspired Springsteen, the Ronettes had

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earned less than $15 ,000 in royalties. Wait,

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hold on. Say that again. $15 ,000 total. $15

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,000. Over decades. That is criminal. How is

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that even possible with hits that are played

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on the radio every single day in movies and commercials?

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It comes down to the contract. And this is a

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warning to every young musician out there. The

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court actually found their plight sympathetic.

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The judge acknowledged that the women had been

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shortchanged, that it was unfair, but legally.

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The judge ruled that the 1963 contract they signed

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as teenagers gave Spector unconditional rights

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to the master recordings. So the piece of paper

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won. The contract held. They got some back pay

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for other things, but the core injustice of the

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royalties was upheld because they signed that

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deal when they were essentially kids desperate

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for a break. That is just a harsh, harsh lesson

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in the music business. Talent doesn't equal leverage.

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What about the Wrecking Crew? Did they fare any

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better? Their decline wasn't legal. It was technological

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and cultural. In the 70s, the whole vibe changed.

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Bands like Led Zeppelin or Pink Floyd or the

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Eagles. They wanted to play their own instruments.

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You didn't want a ghost player anymore. You wanted

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authenticity. The band became the unit, not the

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producer. And recording technology changed too,

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right? We talked about Spectre jamming everyone

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in a room to get that live feel. Right. With

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the advent of 8 -track and 16 -track and eventually

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24 -track recorders, the whole philosophy of

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recording changed. You didn't need 20 people

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in a room praying for a perfect take anymore.

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You could record the drums on Monday, the bass

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on Tuesday, and the strings next week. You could

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isolate mistakes and fix them. So perfection

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stopped being a collective act and became an

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editing process. Exactly. And that made the Wrecking

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Crew's specific magic, that live, tightrope walk

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performance, kind of obsolete. Plus, just plain

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burnout played a factor. Bill Pittman, one of

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the guitarists, described the 15 -hour days.

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Moving from studio to studio, eating vending

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machine food day after day, it was exhausting.

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They burned the candle at both ends for a solid

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decade. So the golden era fades. The Renettes

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are fighting for pennies, the wrecking crew is

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disbanding, and Phil Spector, he becomes a recluse.

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He retreats into his mansion. The eccentricities

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that were once seen as genius quirks, you know,

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the guns in the studio, the wigs, the erratic

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behavior, they start to look much, much darker

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without the hits to justify them. Right. When

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you're making number ones, people tolerate the

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madness. When you aren't, you're just mad. That's

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a perfect way to put it. And that leads us to

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the final tragic act, section five, the murder.

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And I want to be careful here because we are

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dealing with a real victim, Lana Clarkson. Of

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course. February 3rd, 2003. Lana Clarkson, an

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actress, is found dead in Spector's mansion,

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the Pyrenees Castle in Alhambra, California.

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She was shot in the mouth. And Spector's defense

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was unusual, to say the least. He claimed it

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was an accidental suicide. His phrase was that

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she kissed the gun. Which is a horrifying phrase.

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And honestly, it sounds like something a screenwriter

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would invent. It took two trials. The first one

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ended in a mistrial, a deadlock jury. But in

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the second trial in 2009. he was convicted of

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second -degree murder. But we're not just looking

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at the trial today. We're looking at how this

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was portrayed in the media, specifically the

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2013 HBO film written and directed by David Mamet,

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because this film is a fascinating case study

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in how we mythologize genius. This film... simply

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titled Phil Spector, starring Al Pacino and Helen

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Mirren, is a very, very controversial piece of

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the puzzle. It opens with a disclaimer that is

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incredibly bizarre. It is. The disclaimer says,

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and I'm quoting here, this is a work of fiction.

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It is not based on a true story. But then it

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uses the real names of the real people involved

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in a real murder trial. This isn't a true story,

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but here's Al Pacino playing Phil Spector. It

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feels like a massive cop -out. David Mamet, the

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writer and director, was very open about his

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philosophy here. He viewed Spector as a mythological

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character, like a minotaur in a labyrinth. He

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actually admitted in interviews that he didn't

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give a shit about the facts. He literally said

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that. Didn't give a shit about the facts. He

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did. He said he wanted to write a drama about

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the concept of reasonable doubt, not a docudrama

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about what actually happened. He was using Spector

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as a vessel for his own ideas about the legal

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system. But when you're dealing with a real victim,

00:27:01.579 --> 00:27:04.039
playing fast and loose with the facts seems...

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Deeply problematic. Let's look at the specific

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discrepancies mentioned in the sources. The gun

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evidence is the big one. Right. The film argues,

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very persuasively, because it's a well -made

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movie, that if Spectre had pulled the trigger,

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there would have been blood spatter all over

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his white jacket. And since the film claims there

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wasn't massive spatter, he couldn't have done

00:27:24.019 --> 00:27:26.779
it. Reasonable doubt. That sounds convincing

00:27:26.779 --> 00:27:29.460
in a movie. Where is the blood? It's a classic

00:27:29.460 --> 00:27:32.099
defense trope. But the reality... According to

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the source material, specifically the reporting

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by Mick Brown and the actual court transcripts,

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is that the film just ignores the forensics.

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The prosecution presented evidence of something

00:27:41.640 --> 00:27:44.599
called high -velocity impact spatter. Which isn't

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a splash like in a horror movie. No, it's an

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aerosol, a fine mist of blood. It's invisible

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to the naked eye until you look very closely

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under a microscope or use a chemical like luminol.

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And that mist was found on Spectre. It was all

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over the hem of his white jacket. So the physical

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evidence put him right there at arm's length.

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Yes. That mist pattern is consistent with him

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standing within inches of her when the gun went

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off. There's no standing across the room when

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you're covered in that mist. The film conveniently

00:28:13.490 --> 00:28:16.170
ignores the mist to focus on the lack of big

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drops. What about his sobriety? The film makes

00:28:18.630 --> 00:28:20.890
a point about that too, painting him as this

00:28:20.890 --> 00:28:23.869
sober man pushed to the brink. The film claims

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Spector had been cold sober for 10 years. In

00:28:27.259 --> 00:28:29.339
reality, testimony showed he had been drinking

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heavily for two months prior to the murder. He

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was not sober that night. And the chauffeur,

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the guy who drove them there, he's the only other

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witness on the property. In the film, they invent

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the whole conspiracy theory that the chauffeur

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was coerced by the police, that his testimony

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was unreliable. In reality, the chauffeur never

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wavered. He testified that Spector came out of

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the back door of the house with a gun in his

00:28:52.269 --> 00:28:54.910
hand and said, quote, I think I killed somebody.

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I think I killed somebody. That's pretty damning.

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It's hard to spin that as she kissed the gun.

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It is. And that's why critics called the film

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an act of advocacy and a moral mess. It just

00:29:05.250 --> 00:29:08.069
ignored the hard evidence to play a philosophical

00:29:08.069 --> 00:29:10.589
game about how we treat eccentrics. It brings

00:29:10.589 --> 00:29:12.230
us right back to that tension we talked about

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at the very beginning, the attraction and the

00:29:14.650 --> 00:29:18.119
repulsion. Mamet was clearly attracted to the

00:29:18.119 --> 00:29:21.059
myth of the genius being persecuted, so he ignored

00:29:21.059 --> 00:29:23.920
the reality of the violent man. It asks the viewer

00:29:23.920 --> 00:29:26.180
to separate the art from the artist, but then

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it goes a step further and tries to separate

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the man from his actions entirely. It tries to

00:29:30.640 --> 00:29:33.299
say he's too special, too weird, too brilliant

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to be a common murderer. So where does this leave

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us? We've traveled from the Peppermint Lounge

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to the rooftop of Apple Tour to a courtroom in

00:29:41.140 --> 00:29:44.490
Los Angeles. It's a tragedy of control. If you

00:29:44.490 --> 00:29:47.069
look at the trajectory, Spector's genius was

00:29:47.069 --> 00:29:51.150
always, always about control. Controlling the

00:29:51.150 --> 00:29:54.049
acoustics of the wall of sound. Controlling the

00:29:54.049 --> 00:29:56.049
wrecking crew's notes so they had no individual

00:29:56.049 --> 00:29:58.809
identity. Controlling Ronnie's career and life

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by hiding her shoes. Controlling the Beatles'

00:30:01.470 --> 00:30:03.710
final album by drowning it in strings against

00:30:03.710 --> 00:30:05.730
their wishes. And when he couldn't control the

00:30:05.730 --> 00:30:07.589
narrative anymore, when the hits stopped and

00:30:07.589 --> 00:30:09.970
the world moved on, the violence that was always

00:30:09.970 --> 00:30:13.019
there just... It turned inward, and then it turned

00:30:13.019 --> 00:30:16.279
outward. Exactly. We remember the wall of sound,

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and we should. It's a monumental achievement

00:30:18.799 --> 00:30:21.680
in music history. Be My Baby is still a perfect

00:30:21.680 --> 00:30:25.000
pop song. But we have to remember the cost. And

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we have to remember the people who actually built

00:30:26.740 --> 00:30:30.059
that wall. The Wrecking Crew, the Ronettes, the

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people whose immense talent was used as raw material

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for Spectre's vision. They're the ones who made

00:30:35.160 --> 00:30:38.160
the music human. Spectre provided the architecture,

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.630
but they provided the soul. Without Ronnie's

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voice, without Hal Blaine's drums, without Carol

00:30:44.670 --> 00:30:47.490
Kay's bass line, Spector is just a guy in a room

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with an echo chamber. The HBO film asks us to

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think about the difference between innocent and

00:30:52.609 --> 00:30:55.109
not guilty. It wants us to consider reasonable

00:30:55.109 --> 00:30:57.930
doubt. But when you look at the entirety of this

00:30:57.930 --> 00:31:00.789
deep dive, the pattern of domination, the isolation

00:31:00.789 --> 00:31:03.450
of Ronnie, the manipulation of the music, and

00:31:03.450 --> 00:31:05.890
the physical evidence of the murder, it raises

00:31:05.890 --> 00:31:08.109
a question. Does the genius defense hold any

00:31:08.109 --> 00:31:10.400
water at all? Or was the pattern of destruction

00:31:10.400 --> 00:31:12.720
visible from the very beginning, hiding in plain

00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:15.259
sight, just behind the wall of sound? That's

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the question. That's it for this deep dive. Thanks

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for listening, and we'll catch you next time.
