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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. We are shifting

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gears today. Usually we're here to unpack these

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big complex systems, you know, economics, obscure

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history, the weird corners of the tech world.

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But today we are heading to a specific coordinate

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on the map that I think everyone recognizes,

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even if they wish they didn't. We're going to

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the neon -soaked intersection of Las Vegas Boulevard

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and Mandalay Bay Road. It's a location that really

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represents a terrifying... pivot point in recent

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American history. We're talking about the night

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the social contract of public safety was because

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it was just shattered in a way we hadn't really

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seen before. Exactly. We're talking about October

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1st, 2017, a Sunday night, the Route 91 Harvest

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Festival. Right. You've got the closing act,

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Jason Aldean on stage. You have the lights of

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the strip in the background. It is high energy.

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It's vibrant. And then in the span of just 10

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minutes, it becomes the site of the deadliest

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mass shooting by a lone gunman in U .S. history.

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And I think we should be clear about our mission

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statement for this deep dive, because this is

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a heavy topic and we aren't here to just, you

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know, recite the tragic headline. Not at all.

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We aren't here for the sensationalism. We're

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here to do what we do best, which is analyze

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the mechanics. We want to move beyond the breaking

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news banners and look at the. The forensic details

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of the preparation, the physics of the attack,

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the chaos of the response, and ultimately the

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baffling void at the center of it all. That is

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the hook, isn't it? That's the thing that still

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haunts investigators. Because usually when we

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do a deep dive, we end with a why. Right. There's

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a conclusion. We wrap it up with a clear conclusion.

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But here. Despite 10 months of the most exhaustive

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investigation in the history of the LVMPD and

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the FBI, the why remains a completely blank page.

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It's the motiveless crime on an industrial scale.

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And that is what is so unsettling. We know the

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who, the what, the where, the when, and the how

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in excruciating minute -by -minute detail. We

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have the receipts, quite literally, but the why,

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it simply isn't there. And that forces us to

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ask some very uncomfortable questions about,

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you know, the nature of evil and violence itself.

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So let's unpack this. Let's start with the anomaly

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that is the perpetrator. Because when you think

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of a mass shooter, society... Let's be honest,

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the data has kind of given us a stock profile.

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We expect a disaffected youth, maybe someone

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who's been radicalized online, someone with a

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history of violent outbursts or, you know, a

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manifesto. Right. You look for the Columbine

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effect or some kind of political extremism. Stephen

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Paddock broke every single one of those molds.

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Completely. We're looking at a 64 -year -old

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white male. He lived in a retirement community

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in Mesquite, Nevada. A retirement community.

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He wasn't a fringe dweller. He was a retired

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auditor. and a real estate businessman. And a

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wealthy one. Yeah. This wasn't someone acting

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out of like economic desperation. He was a multimillionaire.

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He was what they call a high roller. He was a

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status player. And I think his professional background

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is actually key to understanding the how, even

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if we can't get to the why. Okay. He was an auditor.

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Think about what an auditor does. They look for

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patterns. They look for loopholes. They are meticulous,

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detail -oriented, and they approach systems with

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a critical, almost cold eye. He applied that

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same auditor mindset to his gambling. Let's talk

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about the gambling, because this wasn't just

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a hobby for him. This was a lifestyle. But he

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wasn't exactly the James Bond type at the backer

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route table, was he? Oh, far from it. And this

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is a really crucial psychological detail. He

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didn't play social games like craps or blackjack

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where you interact with a dealer and other players.

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No. He played video poker. Exclusively. Which

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is essentially man versus machine. It's man versus

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algorithm. It's a solitary, repetitive, almost

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trance -like state. You sit there for hours just

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hitting buttons, watching the screen. It allows

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you to be in the middle of the casino, surrounded

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by the noise, the energy, the so -called action,

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while remaining completely isolated in your own

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little bubble. It's an antisocial activity, masquerading

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as being out on the town. And despite being antisocial,

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he was known. He was a whale. He got the comps,

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the free penthouses, the gourmet meal. He absolutely

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thrived on that status. He was the guy the casino

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hosts fawned over. But, and here's where we start

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to see the cracks forming. In the two years leading

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up to 2017, that status was, well, it was eroding.

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The sources mention he was on a massive losing

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streak, a really bad one. He had lost a significant

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amount of his wealth for a man whose entire identity

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is built on being the big shot who beats the

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house. That is a psychic injury. A huge one.

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Some forensic psychologists point to this theory

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of the eroding narcissist. He was an aging man.

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He was losing his money. His girlfriend described

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him as becoming distant and their intimacy had

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ceased. He was watching his power just slip away.

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So the theory is if I can't command respect with

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my money anymore, I will command the world's

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attention with my. violence. That's the speculation.

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It's a way to reclaim control. You know, I will

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decide when and how the story ends and everyone

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is going to look at me. Right. But again, plenty

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of narcissists go broke without firing into a

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crowd. There's another layer here, a biological

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one that is just, yeah, it's wild. You're talking

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about his father. This is one of those details

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that if you wrote it in a movie script, the producers

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would say that's too unbelievable. Cut it. Benjamin

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Bing Paddock. Steven's father wasn't just a bad

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dad. He was on the FBI's most wanted list from

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1969 to 1977. On the most wanted list for what?

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He was a bank robber. A bank robber. Wow. Yes.

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And the FBI poster for him described him as being

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diagnosed as psychopathic and having suicidal

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tendencies. So while Steven Paddock had no criminal

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record himself, literally nothing more than traffic

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citations, he is carrying this genetic legacy.

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So he's the son of a diagnosed psychopath. Who

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made a living. Living through high stakes crime.

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Yeah. It brings up that age old nature versus

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nurture debate, doesn't it? You have the potential

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gene of the bank robber mixed with the discipline

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of the auditor. A terrifying combination. The

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impulse for destruction met with the capability

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for meticulous cold planning. And that is what

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we need to look at next. The planning. Because

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this was not a snap decision. He didn't just

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wake up on October 1st and decide to do this.

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No, this was a project. This was months, if not

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longer, in the making. The timeline of premeditation

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goes back at least to May of 2017. He was scouting.

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He researched large venues in Boston. He specifically

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looked at Fenway Park. Fenway Park. Yes. Then

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in August 2017, he actually booked a room at

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the Blackstone Hotel in Chicago. What's happening

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in Chicago then? Lollapalooza, the massive music

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festival in Grant Park. He booked a room overlooking

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the crowd. Did he check in? He never checked

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in, but the intent was there. He was shopping

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for a venue. He was looking for a very specific

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geometry, a high -rise vantage point overlooking

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a dense, trapped crowd. He was sight -surveying

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mass murder. That's exactly what he was doing.

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And he even did a dry run right there in Las

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Vegas. Just days before the Route 91 attack,

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he rented a condo at the Ogden, which is a high

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-rise in downtown Las Vegas. During the Life

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is Beautiful Festival. Another open air music

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festival. He was there. He was likely watching

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the security rotations, watching how the crowd

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moved, testing the wind angles. He was doing

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his homework. He was. And his Internet search

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history confirms this cold, calculated curiosity.

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It wasn't political ranting or manifestos. It

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was physics. He was searching for a ballistics

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chart 308. He was searching for SWAT weapons.

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He searched. Do police use explosives? He wanted

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to know exactly what the opposition would bring

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to the fight. He was calculating engagement distances.

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It was a logistical problem he was trying to

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solve. Oh, so let's move to the setup at Mandalay

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Bay because this is where the auditor really

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shines in the most horrifying way possible. He

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checks in on September 25th. That is nearly a

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week before the shooting. And notice how he gets

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the room. He demands a specific suite, room 32135,

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as a complimentary perk because of his gambling

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status. Right, because he's a whale. It's a corner

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suite with a panoramic view of the festival grounds.

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But that wasn't enough for him. Four days later,

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he books the connecting room, 32134. Why the

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second room? What did they give him? It gave

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him a second window, a second firing angle. It

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allowed him to triangulate the festival grounds

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and cover areas that might have been blind spots

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from the first room. It was purely tactical.

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And then begins to load in. This is the part

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that just frustrates people so much when they

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hear it. Yeah. How do you get an arsenal of weapons

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into a high -end hotel room without raising a

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single eyebrow? You use the front door. And you

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use the staff. Over the course of his stay, he

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brought in more than 20 suitcases. 20. Let's

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break that down because the volume is just staggering.

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Okay. So on September 25th, he brings in five

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suitcases. Five. Okay. On the 26th, seven suitcases.

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Seven more. On the 28th, another two. On the

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30th, six more. And on October 1st, the day of

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the shooting, two more. And he had the bellman

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help him with these. He did, and this is social

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engineering at its finest. To the bellman, he's

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just a wealthy guy moving in for a long stay.

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In Vegas, it is not unusual for a whale to have

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20 bags. Right. You just assume it's cash or

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something. Maybe it's cash. Maybe it's special

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bedding. Maybe it's supplies for a month -long

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party. You don't ask questions of the guy tipping

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you big money. He hid in plain sight, protected

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by his privilege as a high roller. He interacted

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with the hotel staff more than 10 times. They

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all described him as normal. He was pleasant.

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He was tipping. He was gambling at night and

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moving guns by day. And once everything was in

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the room. He goes into lockdown mode. September

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30th, the Do Not Disturb signs go up on both

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doors, and he turns the room into a fortress.

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He installed his own surveillance system. He

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literally drilled a hole in the peephole of the

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main door and installed a camera. Wow. But more

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brazenly, he took a room service cart, you know,

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a food trolley, and he put a camera on it. He

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just left a room service cart in the middle of

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the hallway. Yes. He positioned it specifically

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to look down the hallway toward the elevators.

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He created his own early warning system. He wanted

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to see the police coming before they ever got

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to his door. The sources say these cameras weren't

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recording though, right? No, they were live feed

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only. He wasn't interested in leaving a tape

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for history. He was interested in tactical awareness

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in the moment. He was watching the feed on a

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tablet inside the room. It is so cold. So methodical.

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Let's talk about what was inside those suitcases.

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Because when the police finally breached that

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room, the inventory list looked like something

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out of a war movie. They found 24 firearms in

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the suite. But it wasn't just a random collection

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of guns. It was a specific tool set for a specific

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task. What do you mean by that? How so? Well,

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he had 14 AR -15 style rifles. These fire the

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.223 caliber round. It's a lighter, faster bullet,

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good for volume of fire. But he also had eight

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AR -10 style rifles. Okay, for listeners who

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aren't gun experts, what is the difference? Why

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mix and match like that? The AR -10 fires a .38

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caliber round. That is a significantly heavier,

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more powerful bullet. It has much better range

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and much better penetration power. He had these

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AR -10s equipped with high -power scopes and

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bipods. So those were his precision instruments.

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Exactly. He intended to use those to reach out

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and touch targets that were further away or perhaps

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to punch through barriers like vehicles or stage

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equipment. But the AR -15s? Yeah. Those were

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for the volume, for the crowd. Those were for

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the bump stocks. And this is the piece of technology

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that really defined this tragedy. We heard so

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much about bump stocks in the news after this,

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but I want to make sure we really understand

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the mechanics. How does it work? Okay, so a standard

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semi -automatic rifle fires one round for every

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single pull of the trigger. Bang, bang. Bang.

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To fire fast, you have to have a very fast finger.

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Right. A bump stock replaces the standard butt

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stock of the rifle, the part that rests against

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your shoulder. It's designed to be loose to allow

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the rest of the gun to slide back and forth freely

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on that stock. So it harnesses the recoil, the

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kick from the gun. Exactly. When you fire, the

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recoil pushes the gun back into the stock. The

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bump stock then uses that energy to bounce the

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gun forward again, slamming the trigger back

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against your stationary finger. It creates a

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mechanical loop. So instead of bang, it's a continuous

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fire. It's bird. We are talking about a rate

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of fire of roughly nine rounds per second. Nine

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a second. which is, for all intents and purposes,

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indistinguishable from a fully automatic machine

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gun. And he had a 100 -round high -capacity magazine,

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so he could maintain that volume of fire for

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10, even 15 seconds at a time before having to

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reload. It was a force multiplier. It allowed

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one man to rain down the firepower of an entire

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squad of soldiers. Absolutely. And the manufacturers

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were all top -tier, Colt, Daniel Defense, FN

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Herstal. He bought the best gear money could

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buy. And it wasn't just guns, was it? He had

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plans for explosives, too. In the valet garage

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in his Hyundai Tucson, police found a terrifying

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stash. He had ammonium nitrate. That's the fertilizer

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used in bomb making. Like in Oklahoma City. It's

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the primary component of heavy IEDs, yes. He

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also had 50 pounds of Tannerite, which is a binary

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explosive used for target practice, but in that

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quantity. What was the plan there? To drop the

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hotel? I mean, what do you do with that? It's

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unlikely that amount would bring down a steel

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frame building like Mandalay Bay, but a car bomb

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in the parking structure. It would have caused

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massive structural damage, fire, and absolute

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panic. It would have drawn first responders away

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from the shooting. It seems he wanted chaos on

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every level. He also tried to get tracer rounds,

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right? He did. He tried to buy them from a dealer

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who was out of stock, so he bought them from

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a private seller at a gun show. Tracer rounds

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burn brightly when fired, so they let you see

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the path of the bullet in the dark. So he could

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walk his fire onto the target better at night.

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Exactly. And then he left a note, a simple handwritten

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note on the nightstand. A manifesto. A suicide

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note. No. Math. It was a slip of paper with calculations

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on it, calculations for the distance, the wind

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drift, and the bullet drop from the 32nd floor

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down to the concert grounds. He had worked out

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the physics equation. To him, the people down

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there weren't humans. There were variables in

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a ballistics problem. That is absolutely chilling.

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Just pure calculation. Okay, let's move to the

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night of October 1st. The timeline. Because there

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is a prelude to the mass shooting that is incredibly

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important and often misunderstood. The security

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guard incident. Jesus Campos. He is the unsung

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hero and the first victim of that night. And

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he wasn't even there for Paddock, right? This

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is a coincidence. A complete coincidence. He

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was responding to an open door alarm on the 32nd

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floor. But when he tried to enter the hallway

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from the stairwell. The door wouldn't open. Paddock

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had barricaded it. He had screwed an L -shaped

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metal bracket into the doorframe from the inside.

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He had secured his flank. He didn't want anyone

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sneaking up on him from the stairs. So Campos

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had to go to another floor, take the elevator,

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and come into the 32nd floor hallway from the

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other side. And as he's walking down the hall.

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He hears drilling. This is around 10 .00 p .m.

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It was likely Paddock securing that bracket or

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doing some kind of final prep. But as Campos

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approaches room 32135, Paddock spots him. Remember

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the cart camera? He sees him coming on his tablet.

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And he fires. He doesn't open the door. He fires

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35 rounds right through the wood of the hotel

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room door into the hallway. And Campos gets hit.

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He takes a round to the leg. This is at 10 .05

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p .m. He retreats to an alcove and radios for

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help. He actually runs into a maintenance worker,

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Stephen Shuck, who had come up to fix the jammed

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door. Campos saves Shuck's life, screaming at

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him to take cover. Now, there was a lot of confusion

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about the timeline here. For a while, the report

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said there was a six -minute gap between Campos

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getting shot and the attack on the crowd starting.

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That was the timeline controversy, people asked.

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If he shot a guard at 10 .05, why didn't police

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stop him before he started shooting at the crowd

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six minutes later? But the police eventually

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clarified this with digital forensics. There

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was no gap. So what happened? Paddock shot Campos,

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realized his timeline was blown. He had been

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discovered and he immediately turned his attention

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to the windows. He uses a hammer. He smashes

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two windows, one in the main suite, 32 -135,

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and one in the connecting room, 32 -134. And

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we have to appreciate the physics here. These

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are heavy, hurricane -proof glass panes. Breaking

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them requires violent force, and once they are

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gone, the pressure differential sucks air out

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of the room. It creates a wind tunnel. And then

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he looks down, 10 .05 p .m. Jason Aldean is closing

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the show. 22 ,000 people. The distance is 490

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yards. That's about five football fields. That

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sounds really far. For a pistol, it's an impossible

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shot. For a rifle with a scope and a bipod firing

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down into a crowd that dense, it is what marksmen

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call a target -rich environment. He didn't have

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to aim at specific people. He just had to point

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at the mask. The shooting starts. Yeah. And the

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crowd reaction. It breaks your heart to hear

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the audio. They cheer. It's that normalcy bias

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we talked about. We are wired to reject danger.

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People thought it was fireworks. It was the finale

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of the festival. They expected pyrotechnics.

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Some thought it was a blown speaker. But then

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the screaming starts. Paddock begins using the

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bump stocks. Bursts of 80 to 100 rounds at a

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time. Burt. A pause to change magazines? Burt.

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It was just relentless. And the venue itself

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turned into a trap. It became what tactical experts

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call a kill box. The festival was surrounded

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by high chain link fences. Right. These were

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designed for revenue protection to keep people

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without tickets out. But when the shooting started.

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Those fences became walls. They kept the people

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in. People were crushed against them, trying

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to get out. It created a horrific bottleneck.

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The exits were too few and too narrow for a stampede

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of 22 ,000 terrified people. People were climbing

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fences, tearing them down, getting trampled.

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And all the while, bullets are just raining down

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from a high angle. And he wasn't just shooting

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at the people. He had another... Even more ambitious

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target, the airport. This is a detail that really

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shows the scale of his intent. He fired at the

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jet fuel tanks at McCarran International Airport,

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which is right next to the festival grounds,

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about 2 ,000 feet away. Was he trying to blow

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up the airport? He hit the tanks twice. One bullet

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actually penetrated the steel shell of one of

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the tanks. But it didn't explode. Why not? Chemistry.

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Hollywood has taught us that if you shoot a gas

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tank, it goes boom. But jet fuel is basically

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kerosene. It's very stable. To ignite, it needs

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to be vaporized and mixed with oxygen in a very

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specific ratio. A bullet passing through liquid

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fuel just causes a leak. It doesn't cause a detonation.

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But the intent was clearly to create a massive

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fireball to distract and destroy. Down on the

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ground, the confusion must have been absolute.

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It was the fog of war. The acoustics of the strip

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are a nightmare. You have these tall glass canyons,

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the Luxor, the Excalibur, Mandalay Bay. The sound

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of the gunshots was bouncing off everything.

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So they didn't know where it was coming from?

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No. People thought shots were coming from the

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Luxor. People thought there were shooters on

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the ground. Reports came in of shots at Gate

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4. The police were getting conflicting information

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from all sides. So it took them a while to even

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figure out where he was. Eventually, police and

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security spotted the muzzle flashes from the

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middle of the northern side of Mandalay Bay.

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The strobe light of the muzzle flash in the dark

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window finally gave him away. So the police mobilize.

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10 .1 p .m. Officers are already in the hotel

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on other floors. Officers on the 31st floor,

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one floor below, could actually hear the shell

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casings hitting the floor above them. They said

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it sounded like rain. Wow. By 10 .17 p .m., officers

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reach the 32nd floor. They find the wounded Jesus

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Campos. But by 10 .17... The shooting has already

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stopped. The gunfire ceased at 10 .15 p .m. The

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entire attack lasted exactly 10 minutes. Over

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1 ,000 rounds fired. But when the police arrive

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at the door, it is silent. And this leads to

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the breach delay. There was over an hour from

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10 .17 to 11 .20 where officers were outside

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the room but didn't go in. Why? Why the wait?

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This is a matter of police doctrine, but it's

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hard for the public to accept. When a suspect

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is actively shooting, the protocol is active

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shooter response. You breach immediately, you

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engage, you stop the killing, even if it means

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taking risks. Right. Go, go, go. But the moment

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a shooting stops, the classification changes

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to barricaded subject. So they slow everything

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down. Exactly. If he's not killing anyone right

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now, you don't rush in. You don't know if the

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door is rigged with explosives, which was a valid

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fear given the cameras and the drilling he was

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doing. You don't know if he has hostages. So

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they held the line. They evacuated the other

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guests on the floor. They waited for the SWAT

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team with the proper breach gear. And at 11 .20

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p .m. SWAT places an explosive charge on the

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door. They blow it. They enter room 32135. And

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what did they find? Paddock was dead. He had

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committed suicide with a revolver. Shot himself

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in the mouth. There was an accidental discharge

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during the breach, wasn't there? I read that.

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Yes. In the extreme tension of the entry, an

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officer's weapon fired a three -round burst.

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It hit a cabinet. Nobody was hurt, but it just

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shows how incredibly high the adrenaline was

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in that moment. So the shooter is dead. The threat

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is over. But the crisis has just migrated down

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the street to the hospitals. The casualty count

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is just overwhelming. The numbers are staggering.

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58 people died that night. Two more died later

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from complications of their wounds. One in 2019

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and one in 2020, bringing the total death toll

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to 60. 60 people. And they're injured. 413 people

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suffered gunshot or shrapnel wounds. But the

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total number of injured was 867. That includes

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people who were trampled, people who broke ankles

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jumping fences, people who cut themselves on

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the barriers. The hospitals must have been a

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complete war zone. They were pushed beyond the

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breaking point. And there was a critical failure

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in the system here. University Medical Center,

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or UMC, is the level I trauma center in Vegas.

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It is the place you want to be if you have a

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gunshot wound. It's the best equipped. Right.

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But about an hour into the crisis, emergency

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services were told UMC was full. Was it actually

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full? It wasn't. They still had capacity. But

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in the chaos, erroneous information went out.

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So ambulances started diverting patients to Sunrise

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Hospital, which is a Level 2 center. And then

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Sunrise just got crushed. They received 199 patients.

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150 of them arrived within a 40 -minute window.

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150 in 40 minutes. Imagine that. A patient every

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15 seconds. Victims were being piled in the back

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of pickup trucks, police cars, Ubers. The parking

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lot became a triage center. Doctors were treating

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people on the floor of the lobby. It was absolute

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chaos. There was also the blood donation paradox.

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I remember seeing the news the next day, these

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images of lines for blocks of people wanting

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to give blood. It is a beautiful human instinct,

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isn't it? When we feel helpless, we want to give.

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Blood donations in Vegas went up 53%. But, and

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this is the paradox, 15 % of that blood went

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unused and had to be thrown out. Why? Why would

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that happen? Because blood has a shelf life.

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And in a mass casualty event, you need the blood

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now, which comes from the existing supply on

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the shelves. By the time you bleed a new donor,

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test the blood, process it, the immediate crisis

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is over. So it creates this glut in the system.

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A glut that the system can't use. It really raises

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questions about how we manage that public desire

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to help without clogging the system. Amidst all

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this horror, though, we have to talk about the

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heroism. Because in that kill box, people didn't

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just run. They stayed. They helped. The impulse

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to protect was just as strong as the impulse

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to destroy. Take Matthew Kobos. He was a young

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U .S. Army soldier. There's a famous photo of

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him. You've probably seen it. Yes, I know the

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one. He is lying on top of a young blonde woman,

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shielding her entire body with his own, while

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bullets are literally kicking up the dirt around

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them. He didn't know her. He just covered her.

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And then he ran back into the danger zone to

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apply tourniquets to other people. And Jonathan

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Smith. They call him the angel. He was there

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for his brother's 43rd birthday. When the shooting

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started, he grabbed his family, but then he just

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kept grabbing strangers. He was screaming, active

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shooter, get down. He formed a human chain, dragging

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people toward a row of parked cars for cover.

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He saved dozens of lives. Dozens. Before he took

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a bullet in the neck himself, he survived, but

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he saved so many. And Britney Spears. She was

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a civilian. A civilian. An EMT from UCLA who

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was there just to enjoy the music. She didn't

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flee. She started setting up a triage station

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inside the venue while the shooter was still

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active. She was plugging bullet holes and directing

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care. She was the only civilian medical professional

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to receive a medal of courage from the police.

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There is a really tragic connection that came

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up in the research, though. A sort of coda to

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the survivor stories that feels almost cruel.

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The Thousand Oaks shooting. This is a gut punch.

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A year later, in November 2018, a gunman walked

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into the Borderline Bar and Grill in Thousand

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Oaks, California. It's a country western bar.

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And who's there? A lot of the Vegas survivors,

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right? A huge number of them. That bar was their

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community hub, their safe space where they went

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to heal together. Survivors of the Las Vegas

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massacre found themselves in the middle of another

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mass shooting just 12 months later. And one of

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them didn't make it out. Telemachus Orfanos.

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He survived the Vegas shooting. He came home

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and he was killed in Thousand Oaks. His mother's

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interview afterwards was, it was just searing.

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She said, I don't want prayers. I want gun control.

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It really highlighted that for these survivors,

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nowhere felt safe anymore. You survive the anomaly,

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only to be caught in the pattern. Let's zoom

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out to the aftermath. Because as soon as the

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shooting stopped, a different kind of chaos started.

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The information war. This was really the first

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major mass casualty event where we saw the total

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failure of the modern algorithmic internet. Explain

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that. What do you mean by failure? When a crisis

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breaks, there is a data void. People are searching

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for information, but verified news takes time.

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Journalists have to check facts. But lies, lies

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are fast and algorithms prioritize engagement,

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not accuracy. So what happened? What was being

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pushed out there? If you Googled Las Vegas shooter

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on Monday morning, the top stories widget, the

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part Google presents as authoritative news linked

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directly to a 4chan thread. 4chan, the anonymous

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message board. That was the Thou story. That

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was the top story. And that thread completely

00:26:35.559 --> 00:26:38.420
misidentified the shooter. It claimed he was

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a registered Democrat, an anti -Trump activist,

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and a member of an extremist group. It was total

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fiction. But for a few crucial hours, Google

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served it to millions of people as fact. And

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Facebook wasn't much better, I'm guessing. No.

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Sputnik, the Russian state -controlled news agency,

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was trending on Facebook. They were pushing stories

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linking the shooter to terrorists. ISIS actually

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tried to claim him. Right. They gave him a name,

00:27:03.890 --> 00:27:06.930
didn't they? Abu Abdulbar al -Amriqi. They claimed

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he was their soldier. Was there any truth to

00:27:09.009 --> 00:27:12.089
that at all? Zero. Absolutely none. The FBI tore

00:27:12.089 --> 00:27:14.529
Paddock's life apart. They looked at every email,

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every phone call, every travel record. There

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was no connection to ISIS, no connection to international

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terror. But ISIS knew that claiming him would

00:27:22.869 --> 00:27:25.549
spread fear, so they did it. And this misinformation

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had real, tangible consequences for the survivors.

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The crisis actor conspiracy. This is the ugliest

00:27:31.890 --> 00:27:34.589
part of the aftermath. Conspiracy theorists claim

00:27:34.589 --> 00:27:36.710
the shooting was faked, that the victims were

00:27:36.710 --> 00:27:38.990
actors hired by the government to push gun control.

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Unbelievable. Survivors, people who had pulled

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bullets out of their friends, started receiving

00:27:43.410 --> 00:27:46.549
death threats. They were harassed online. It

00:27:46.549 --> 00:27:49.049
added this layer of psychological trauma that

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simply didn't exist 20 years ago. Let's talk

00:27:51.829 --> 00:27:54.309
about the legal side, because the lawsuits here

00:27:54.309 --> 00:27:57.809
were massive. MGM Resorts, the owner of Mandalay

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Bay, faced a suit from 450 victims. And MGM's

00:28:01.910 --> 00:28:05.589
response was legally fascinating and publicly

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disastrous. They countersued the victims. They

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sued the victims? How is that even possible?

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They filed a suit against hundreds of victims,

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but they weren't asking for money. They were

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using a very specific piece of legislation called

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the Safety Act of 2002. Okay, what is that? It

00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:23.599
was passed after 9 -11. Basically, it says that

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if a company uses anti -terrorism technology

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or services that are certified by the Department

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of Homeland Security, they cannot be held liable

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for an act of mass violence. I see. MGM argued

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that their security vendor was certified, so

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they were immune. They sued the victims to force

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a federal judge to rule on that immunity immediately.

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So it was a legal maneuver to stop the bleeding

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before it started. It was a hardball tactic.

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It worked, in a sense. It forced a settlement.

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In October 2019, MGM and the victims reached

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a settlement of $800 million. It's a massive

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sum, but it avoided a trial that could have set

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a dangerous precedent on hotel liability. And

00:29:00.400 --> 00:29:02.960
of course, the bunk stocks. Paddock put them

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on the map. Before this, I mean, most people

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had never even heard of them. Even the NRA initially

00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:09.599
came out and said, OK, maybe these should be

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regulated. In December 2018, the Trump administration

00:29:12.880 --> 00:29:16.079
banned them. The Department of Justice reclassified

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them as machine guns. But that didn't stick,

00:29:18.579 --> 00:29:20.940
did it? No. It went all the way to the Supreme

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Court. Just recently, in June of 2024, the Supreme

00:29:24.480 --> 00:29:27.200
Court overturned the ban. On what grounds? A

00:29:27.200 --> 00:29:29.920
technicality of language. The National Firearms

00:29:29.920 --> 00:29:32.559
Act defines a machine gun as a weapon that fires

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automatically with a single function of the trigger.

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The court ruled that with a bump stock, the trigger

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is still technically being bumped and pulled

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for each shot. It's just happening really, really

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fast. So by the strict letter of the law, it's

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not a machine gun. According to the Supreme Court,

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yes. So unless Congress passes a new law specifically

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defining and banning them, they are legal again.

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Back to square one. So we've covered the logistics,

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the arsenal, the timeline, the heroism, the law.

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But we have to end where we began. The conclusion

00:30:02.650 --> 00:30:06.150
of the investigation itself. August 2018, Sheriff

00:30:06.150 --> 00:30:08.869
Joe Lombardo and the FBI released the final report.

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It is the definitive account. And the conclusion

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is. Silence. No conspiracy. No second gunman.

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No secret plot. And no motive. The FBI Behavioral

00:30:18.720 --> 00:30:21.039
Analysis Unit, the best profilers in the world,

00:30:21.059 --> 00:30:22.920
the people who inspired the show Mindhunter,

00:30:23.039 --> 00:30:26.079
could not find a single or clear motivating factor.

00:30:26.359 --> 00:30:29.319
No manifesto on a hard drive. No diary outlining

00:30:29.319 --> 00:30:31.460
his grievances against the world. Nothing. No

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political ideology. No religious extremism. No

00:30:34.519 --> 00:30:36.779
specific grudge against the hotel or the concert

00:30:36.779 --> 00:30:39.480
goers. Just a man who was, in their words, bored.

00:30:39.880 --> 00:30:42.319
aging, losing his status, and who possessed a

00:30:42.319 --> 00:30:44.519
high degree of intelligence and a nefarious intent.

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That is infinitely more terrifying than a terrorist,

00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:50.299
isn't it? It is. Because we can understand terrorism.

00:30:50.460 --> 00:30:54.079
We can fight an ideology. If he was demonstrably

00:30:54.079 --> 00:30:56.259
crazy, we could talk about mental health funding.

00:30:56.700 --> 00:30:59.240
If he was a disgruntled employee, we could talk

00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:02.099
about workplace violence. But Steven Paddock

00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:05.279
was none of those. He was a cipher. It suggests

00:31:05.279 --> 00:31:07.720
that our safety relies on something very, very

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fragile. It relies on a social contract. We walk

00:31:11.400 --> 00:31:13.259
through the world assuming that the person in

00:31:13.259 --> 00:31:15.220
the hotel room next to us or the guy in the window

00:31:15.220 --> 00:31:18.619
above us agrees the basic rule of don't kill

00:31:18.619 --> 00:31:21.039
people. When someone like Paddock breaks that

00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.019
contract without a reason we can comprehend,

00:31:23.380 --> 00:31:25.640
it shatters our sense of order. It makes you

00:31:25.640 --> 00:31:28.940
look at soft targets, festivals, concerts, open

00:31:28.940 --> 00:31:31.299
public spaces completely differently. It changes

00:31:31.299 --> 00:31:33.799
the paradigm. We can harden airports. We can

00:31:33.799 --> 00:31:36.319
put metal detectors in schools. But how do you

00:31:36.319 --> 00:31:38.680
secure an open -air festival from a window 500

00:31:38.680 --> 00:31:42.140
yards away and 32 floors up? It forces us to

00:31:42.140 --> 00:31:44.059
accept that there is a limit to how safe we can

00:31:44.059 --> 00:31:46.599
truly make a free society. That is a heavy note

00:31:46.599 --> 00:31:49.259
to end on, but a necessary one. We wanted to

00:31:49.259 --> 00:31:51.279
move beyond the headlines, and I think looking

00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.940
at the sheer mechanical preparation of this crime

00:31:53.940 --> 00:31:56.900
does that. It strips away the myth and leaves

00:31:56.900 --> 00:31:59.720
us with the cold, hard, and deeply unsettling

00:31:59.720 --> 00:32:01.980
reality. And hopefully, by understanding the

00:32:01.980 --> 00:32:03.880
mechanics, the luggage, the surveillance, the

00:32:03.880 --> 00:32:06.960
purchasing patterns, we can better spot the anomalies

00:32:06.960 --> 00:32:09.460
in the future. Maybe the next time someone connects

00:32:09.460 --> 00:32:11.980
the dots before the window breaks. We can only

00:32:11.980 --> 00:32:15.000
hope. Thank you for listening to this deep dive.

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It wasn't an easy one, but we appreciate you

00:32:17.299 --> 00:32:19.460
sticking with us to understand the details. Stay

00:32:19.460 --> 00:32:22.319
curious, stay safe, and we'll see you on the

00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:23.019
next deep dive.
