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You know, when we talk about a crime scene, we

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usually picture something temporary. There's

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yellow tape, chalk outlines, maybe some flashing

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lights. Right. It's a moment in time. The chaos

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happens. The investigation begins. Yeah. And

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then pretty quickly, the physical space goes

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back to normal. Exactly. The mess gets cleaned

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up, bleached, paved over. The world just moves

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on. Yeah. But there is one crime scene right

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in Boston that has been. I mean, essentially

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preserved in amber for more than 30 years now.

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It's incredible. If you go to the Fenway area

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today and you walk into the Isabella Stewart

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Gardner Museum, you are literally walking into

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a crime scene that hasn't been cleared since

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1990. And it isn't subtle at all. It's not like

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there's a little plaque on the wall. Yeah. You

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walk into the Dutch room on the second floor,

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which is this incredibly opulent, dimly lit gallery

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just packed with masterpieces. And you see them.

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Right away. Empty frames. Four massive gilded

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frames. I mean, these are ornate, heavy, historic

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objects in their own right. And they're just

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empty. Yeah, just the blank kind of floral wallpaper

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staring back at you. Precisely. That damask silk

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wall covering is all you see. It gives you this

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visceral reaction. You feel it in your gut. It

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just feels wrong. It gives me chills every time

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I even see a photo of it. It's like a gaping

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wound right in the middle of all this incredible

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beauty. That's a perfect way to put it. It's

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a wound. It's a vigil. I think that's the only

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way you can describe it. Those empty frames,

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they are the defining image of the single largest

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property theft in history. Right. And I think

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that's really where we need to start, the sheer

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scale of this thing. Yeah. Let's clarify what

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largest means here, because I think a lot of

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people hear art heist and they immediately think

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of, you know, a movie villain stealing a diamond

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in a briefcase. Right. Something small and contained.

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Exactly. We're not talking about a few million

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dollars. We are talking about conservatively

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half a billion dollars. At least. The low end

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estimate is 500 million. Some go as high as $600

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million. Yeah. But honestly, it's theoretical

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money at this point. How so? Well, how do you

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put a price tag on a Vermeer? There are only,

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what, 34, maybe 36 of them known to exist on

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the entire planet. Wow. Losing one is like losing

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a moon from our orbit. It is a cultural amputation.

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It's gone forever. 13 pieces in total just vanished.

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Into thin air. Here's our mission for this deep

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dive. We have pulled every FBI file we could

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get our hands on, every memoir from the original

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investigators, all the deep cut reporting on

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the Boston underworld, the security logs from

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that night, everything. We're going deep. We

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want to understand not just what was taken, but

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how a heist, this messy and spoiler alert, it

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was incredibly messy, has managed to completely

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stump the FBI for over three decades. And maybe

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the biggest question of all, why are those frames

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still empty? Because usually, you know, if art

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is stolen, a museum eventually moves on. They

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rehang the gallery. They don't just leave a scar

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on the wall for 30 years. Right. And to understand

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the theft and the scar, we have to go back to

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ground zero. We have to transport ourselves to

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Boston, March 18th, 1990. That date is absolutely

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crucial. The whole crime hinges on that specific

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date. It really does. Because anyone who spent

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any time in Boston. Or heck, anyone who's seen

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a movie about Boston knows that March 18th isn't

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just a Sunday. It is the morning after the night

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before. The big one, St. Patrick's Day in Boston

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is, well, it's a contact sport. That is a very

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polite way to put it. The entire city is effectively

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hungover. The police force has been dealing with

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parades, bar fights, public intoxication, just

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massive crowd control. for 24 hours straight.

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They're exhausted. Completely spent. The streets

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are littered with green plastic beads and confetti.

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It's one in the morning. The city's finally quiet.

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The adrenaline has crashed and everyone's guard

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is down. And sitting right in the middle of this

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exhausted city is the museum, the Fenway Court,

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as it was first called. And we have to talk about

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Isabella Stewart Gardner herself for a minute

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because she is the reason this heist plays out

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the way it does. And she's the reason those frames

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are still empty. Oh, she's an incredible character.

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Not your typical wealthy Victorian widow. Yeah.

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Not even close. No, she was like the original

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disruptor of Boston society. She was a New Yorker

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who married into old Boston money, which right

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away made her an outsider. And she leaned into

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it. She drank beer in public. She was a huge

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fan of boxing matches. She collected lions. I

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mean, actual lion cubs. She had lion cubs. Yes.

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And she built this museum to be her personal

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palace. It wasn't designed by some committee

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or a board of directors. It was her. and her

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alone arranging every single object to fit her

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personal vision. And that personal touch isn't

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just a fun historical fact. It's actually legally

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binding, isn't it? This is the part I found fascinating

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in the museum's charter. It's the ultimate dead

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hand control. Gardner died in 1924, but her will

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was incredibly specific. It created what's known

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as a strict deviation clause. Okay, what does

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that mean? It basically said, my collection,

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as it is arranged, is a single complete work

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of art. The arrangement of the paintings is the

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art itself. If you move a single painting, if

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you sell a painting, or if you buy a new one

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to fill a gap... Then the whole thing is forfeit.

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Exactly. The entire collection goes to Harvard

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University, and the museum is dissolved. Done.

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So the directors are completely paralyzed. If

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Rembrandt's storm on the Sea of Galilee gets

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stolen, they can't just, you know, move a nice

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Rubens over from the next room to fill the empty

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space. They can't. If they move the Rubens, they

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violate the will and they lose the whole museum.

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So the empty frame stays. It preserves the arrangement

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that Isabella left behind in 1924. It's a legal

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obligation just as much as it's a memorial. Which

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is... It's poetic, but it's also so tragic. It

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just highlights the loss every single day. It

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does. But OK, let's look at the museum itself

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back in 1990, because I think we all have this

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assumption that a place with Rembrandts and Vermeers

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has to be a fortress. You know, we're picturing

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Mission Impossible, lasers, pressure plates,

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armed guards. And the reality was much more like

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Paul Blart. Mall cop. It was that bad. It was

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dire. You have to remember. In the late 80s,

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the Gardner was really struggling financially.

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They were asset rich, of course, owning these

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priceless paintings, but they were incredibly

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cash poor. The endowment wasn't doing well. And

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the building itself was suffering. The building

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didn't even have a proper climate control system.

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I mean, can you imagine a Vermeer being subjected

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to Boston's humidity and wild temperature swings?

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That's just, it sounds like negligence. It was

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a lack of resources. But the security. Yeah.

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That was a real open secret. The sources we looked

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at all say the security flaws were common knowledge

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among the staff. I read that they didn't even

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have an insurance policy on the art. How is that

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even possible for a nonprofit that's holding

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public trust assets? It's actually more common

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than you'd think for major museums to self -insure.

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The premiums to insure a collection worth half

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a billion dollars, even in 1990 money, would

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be astronomical. Millions a year. Money they

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didn't have. Exactly. So they roll the dice.

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The logic is we'll invest in top tier security

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instead of insurance. But they didn't invest

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in the security. That's the catch 22 here. They

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did not. The board of trustees made a really

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fateful decision a few years before the heist.

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They installed CCTV cameras on the perimeter.

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So watching the doors, the exterior walls. But

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they decided it was too expensive to put cameras

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inside the galleries. Wait, let's pause on that.

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So once you're past the front door. You're invisible.

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You're a ghost. Yeah. There is no video record

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of what happens inside the Dutch room, the blue

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room, anywhere. They had motion detectors, which

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we'll get to, but absolutely no visual record.

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That is just wild. And the human element, the

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guards, they weren't much of a backup. No. On

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the night of March 18th, the entire safety of

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this cultural treasure chest rested on the shoulders

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of two, well, two kids. Rick Abath, age 23, and

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Randy Heston, 25. And for Hestand, this was literally

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his first time ever working the night shift.

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Talk about a bad first day at the office. Or

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a bad first night. It's unbelievable. But Rick

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Abath, he's the more central figure here. He

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was a regular on the night watch. He was a musician

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in a rock band, a Berklee College of Music dropout,

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sort of a counterculture guy. And the whole vibe

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among the guards at the Gardner was just... Loose

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is being generous. The guards were young, they

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were bored, and they were paid peanuts. There

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was no rigorous military -style protocol. What

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do you mean by that? Well, in most major museums,

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especially overnight, you have what's called

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a dead man switch protocol. You have to call

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a local police station or a central security

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hub every hour, on the hour, to say, code 4,

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all is well. And if you miss a call? The cavalry

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comes automatically. They assume something is

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wrong. The Gardner had nothing like that. So

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what did they have? The only link to the police

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was a single panic button at the main security

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desk. You controlled that desk, you controlled

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the entire police response. There was no failsafe.

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And this wasn't a secret vulnerability. I mean,

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the sources talk about a plot from 1982. They

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do. The FBI had actually uncovered a plot by

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some Boston criminals to rob the museum eight

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years prior. That scare did lead to some upgrades.

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Specifically, the infrared motion detectors we

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mentioned. But clearly, the funding and the urgency

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just weren't there to make it truly secure. They

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plugged one hole but left the window wide open.

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That's a great way to put it. So we have this

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vulnerable building in a hungover city. And now

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we have to look at the behavior of Rick Abath

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that night. Because even before the thieves showed

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up, things were... Right. This is what fuels

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all the inside job theories we're going to get

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into. Absolutely. So earlier in the shift, the

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fire alarm panel starts going haywire. It's signaling

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smoke in different rooms. The bath goes and checks.

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He sees nothing. And he just assumes the system

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is on the fritz. So he shuts down parts of the

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system. He silences the board. He does. But then,

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and he does the thing with the door. The side

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entrance, the staff door. Yes. The security logs

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show that during his rounds, a bath opened the

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side door to the street. just for a moment, and

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then closed it again. And he didn't tell his

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partner, Randy Heston, that he was doing this.

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No. His explanation later was that he was just

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checking to make sure it was locked. But you

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don't check a lock by opening the door. You check

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it by pulling on the handle. Right. Opening it

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breaks the seal. It breaks the magnetic contact

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on the alarm. And it looks an awful lot like

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a signal. Like... The coast is clear. Or it was

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just a bored 23 -year -old wanting to get some

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fresh air, maybe smoke a cigarette. And that

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is the maddening thing about this case. Every

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single clue could be part of a massive conspiracy,

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or it could just be total incompetence and boredom.

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So the stage is set. It is 1 .20 a .m. The city's

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asleep. The alarms are glitchy. The door has

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been opened and closed. And then a hatchback

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pulls up to that side entrance. Little Dodge

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Daytona. Two men get out. And they're not wearing

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ski masks. They're not in black turtlenecks carrying

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grappling hooks. No, they're wearing uniforms.

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Boston police uniforms. They walk up to the buzzer.

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They press it. And Rick Abath at the security

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desk picks up the intercom. Police investigating

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a disturbance. Now, you have to put yourself

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in a bath's shoes for a second. You're sitting

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there, you look at this tiny, grainy CCTV monitor,

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the one monitor they actually had watching the

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door. You see two caps, two badges. And you know

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it's St. Patrick's Day. You know people get drunk,

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they jump fences, they cause trouble. It's the

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most plausible story in the world. He thinks

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a neighbor saw a prowler and called the cops.

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Exactly. He respects the uniform. There's the

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psychological principle called command presence.

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We are conditioned from birth. to obey authority

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figures. If a police officer tells you to open

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the door, your instinct is to open the door.

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Even though the museum's own policy was explicit,

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never open the door for anyone at night. No exceptions.

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Not for the fire department, not for the police,

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not for the pope. He broke the cardinal rule.

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He hit the buzzer. And that was it. The click

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of that lock opening, that was the sound of history

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changing right there. The two men walk into the

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airlock. Now, the layout here is important. The

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museum had the vestibule. You buzz them through

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the outer door. They enter a small room. And

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then you have to buzz them through a second door

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to get into the museum proper. So Abath still

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had another chance. He could have kept them in

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that airlock, talked to them through the glass.

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He could have. But he's already committed. He

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buzzes the second door. They walk right up to

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his desk. And this is where the dynamic shifts

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from, you know, a routine check to an absolute

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nightmare. Because Abath notices something. The

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taller cop. His mustache looks weird. It looks

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fake. It's like a wax mustache, a prop from a

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high school play. And Abath is just staring at

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it. But before he can even process it, the shorter

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cop goes on the offensive. Brilliant move. He

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looks right at Abath and says, you look familiar.

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I think we have a warrant out for you. Which

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is just... It's genius. It's evil genius. Because

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it puts a bath on the defensive immediately.

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He's not thinking about the mustache anymore.

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He's thinking, oh my God, did I not pay a parking

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ticket? Is this about the fire alarm from earlier?

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It completely freezes him. The cop tells him

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to step out from behind the desk. Show me some

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ID. And the moment a bath steps out from behind

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that desk, he is stepping away from the only

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panic button in the entire building. He walked

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right into the trap. They spit him around, hands

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against the wall. They cuff him. And just then,

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Randy Hestand, the new guy, walks into the room

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totally confused about what's happening. They

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cuff him, too. And then comes the line. The shorter

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man looks at them. He drops the cop voice. And

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he says, gentlemen, this is a robbery. Ugh. I

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get a pit in my stomach just thinking about that.

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It's so cold. But they didn't, like, physically

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hurt them, right? They didn't beat them up. No,

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they were very efficient. They wrapped duct tape

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around the guards' heads, covering their eyes.

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They marched them down to the basement. The grace,

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man. Handcuffed one to a steam pipe and the other

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to a workbench. And they left them with this

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really chilling instruction. They said, tell

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us nothing and you'll get a reward in a year.

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A reward in a year? What does that even mean?

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It implies a long -term plan. It implies they

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expected to monetize this, get paid, and then

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pay off the loose ends. It's so transactional.

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It feels like organized crime. It's not personal.

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It's business. So by 1 .35 a .m., the guards

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are neutralized. The thieves have the run at

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the place. And this is where the slick Ocean's

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Eleven image completely falls apart. Oh, completely.

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Because they spent 81 minutes in there. 81 minutes.

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Which is an eternity for a heist. Most bank robberies

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are under three minutes. You get in, you get

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the cash, you get out before the police response

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time kicks in. These guys treated the museum

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like a late night shopping spree. But they were

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not careful shoppers. They were brutes. That's

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the word for it. The looting itself was brutal.

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They didn't gently lift these paintings off the

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walls. No. It's horrifying for anyone who cares

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about art. They go up to the Dutch room on the

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second floor. When they get close to the paintings

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the proximity sensors, which ironically were

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working perfectly, start beeping. So what do

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they do? They just smash the censors off the

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wall. Then they take these huge, heavy framed

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masterpieces off the wall and just throw them

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onto the marble floor. The glass shatters everywhere.

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And then they took out knives. Yeah. They use

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box cutters or some kind of blade to literally

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slice the canvases right out of their stretchers.

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We are talking about Rembrandts from the 1630s.

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The violence of that act is... It's visceral.

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And the damage that does. It's irreversible.

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You have to understand, old oil paintings, they

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get brittle. The layers of varnish harden over

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centuries. So when you cut them out and roll

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them up, the paint just cracks and flakes off.

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It's immediate catastrophic damage. It's not

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just theft. It's mutilation of the art. It is.

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The sound of a knife cutting through a 300 -year

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-old canvas. Yeah. It's enough to make an art

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historian weep. They cut Rembrandt's The Storm

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on the Sea of Galilee out. They cut his A Lady

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and Gentleman in blackout. And then they went

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for the Vermeer. The concert. Okay, let's pause

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on this one. Why is this particular painting

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considered the holy grail of stolen art? Well,

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Johannes Vermeer is the absolute master of light.

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He was a perfectionist who produced very, very

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few works in his lifetime. We only know of about

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34 that are definitively attributed to him. So

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they're incredibly rare. Incredibly. And the

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concert depicts... Three figures making music

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in this beautifully lit room. It's intimate.

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It's luminous. It is, without a doubt, the most

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valuable single stolen object in the world. That

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one painting accounts for probably half the heist's

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total value. We're talking $250 million for one

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piece. And they just took it. But then... Then

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their decisions get really baffling. They have

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these world -class masterpieces, but then they

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start grabbing, for lack of a better word, junk.

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This is where we can really start to profile

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the thieves. They try to steal a Napoleonic flag

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from its display case, but they can't get the

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screws loose on the frame. So what do they do?

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They just unscrew the little brass eagle finial

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from the top of the flagpole. The eagle finial.

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That one decision just screams amateur. That

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finial is worth maybe a few thousand dollars

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as an antique. The thieves almost certainly thought

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it was solid gold. So they weren't art historians.

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They were just looking for shiny things. Exactly.

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They also took a Chinese beaker, an ancient bronze.

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Yeah, from the Qing Dynasty. It's incredibly

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old, from the 12th century BC. But in terms of

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black market value, it's worth thousands, not

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millions. And they grabbed that while walking

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right past drawings by Raphael, Botticelli, and

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Michelangelo. That's the part that gets me every

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time. They left the Titian. The Rape of Europa.

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It was on the third floor. Experts agree it was

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the single most valuable painting in the entire

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city of Boston, maybe on the East Coast. And

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they didn't even go look for it. So that tells

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you they didn't have a specific shopping list

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from a collector. It strongly suggests they didn't.

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A sophisticated collector, a Dr. No type, would

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have ordered the Titian first. These guys were

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grabbing what they could reach, what looked fancy,

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and what they could carry. It was opportunistic,

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even with all the planning that went into the

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entry. There's also that weird detail about the

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blue room. The Manet painting, Ces Tortoni, was

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taken from the first floor. But the motion detectors

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didn't pick up the thieves in that room. That

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is one of the biggest anomalies of the case.

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The detectors track their movements everywhere

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else in the museum. We have the printouts. We

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know exactly where they walked in the Dutch room,

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how long they stood in front of each painting.

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But the blue room? Nothing. So what does that

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mean? It means either the thieves somehow floated,

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or the equipment just happened to fail in that

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one room, or... Or someone moved the painting

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before the thieves even arrived. Which loops

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us right back to the inside job theory. Did a

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bath take it down earlier and hand it out a window?

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Or did the thieves just manage to stay out of

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the sensor's range? We just don't know. So 2

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.45 a .m. rolls around. They load everything

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into their hatchback. They steal the surveillance

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tapes from the VCR. But in a move that proves

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they were not tech geniuses, they leave behind

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the hard drive that recorded all the motion sensor

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data. A huge mistake. They took the visuals but

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left the digital footprints. They got in their

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car and just drove off into the night. The whole

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robbery lasted 81 minutes. And the next morning,

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the day shift arrives, they can't get in, the

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police are called, and they find Abath and Heston

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still tied up in the basement. And the walls

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were bare. So the investigation begins. I mean,

00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:37.759
a heist this big, the heat is instantaneous,

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the FBI takes over immediately, and obviously

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the very first person they look at is the guy

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who buzzed them in. Rick Abath. It's standard

00:19:46.289 --> 00:19:49.130
procedure. You always, always look at the person

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who opened the door. And his story had holes.

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The weird thing with the side door, the motion

00:19:53.250 --> 00:19:55.349
detector mystery in the blue room, it all looked

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bad for him. And then, years later, in 2015,

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the FBI released this video from the night before

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the robbery. And it showed a bath letting an

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unidentified man into the museum. at night after

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hours. Another major breach of protocol. A huge

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one. Abath claimed he didn't remember it. Some

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other guards later said the stranger was actually

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the museum's deputy security chief, but the damage

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was done. It just cast this huge shadow over

00:20:21.799 --> 00:20:25.059
Abath. Was it a dry run? Was he showing the thieves

00:20:25.059 --> 00:20:27.539
the layout? But what did the FBI ultimately conclude

00:20:27.539 --> 00:20:30.519
about him? Well, Abath maintained his innocence

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until the day he died, which was just in 2024.

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And the lead FBI agent on the case eventually

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concluded that the guards were, and I'm quoting

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the source here, too incompetent and foolish

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to be criminal masterminds. Ouch. Cleared by

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reason of incompetence? That's a rough epitaph.

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It is, but it meant the investigation had to

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shift gears pretty quickly toward the Boston

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underworld. You just can't talk about a major

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crime in 1990 Boston without talking about the

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Irish mob and the Italian mafia. And the biggest,

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baddest name on the block, Whitey Bulger. James

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Whitey Bulger. the head of the Winter Hill Gang.

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Of course, he was a suspect. He basically ran

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the city. But the consensus among the FBI and

00:21:09.390 --> 00:21:11.349
investigative reporters is that Whitey didn't

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do it. Why not? Wouldn't he want that kind of

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payday? You'd think so. But the sources we found

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suggest he was actually furious about it. He

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was reportedly angry that someone committed a

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robbery of this magnitude on his turf without

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getting his permission or paying him a tribute.

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He wanted a cut. He wanted his cut. He actually

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had his own people looking for the real thieves

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because he wanted to tax them. He saw it as a

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sign of disrespect. What about the IRA theory?

00:21:34.710 --> 00:21:37.029
I read that one agent thought the fire alarm

00:21:37.029 --> 00:21:39.849
glitch was a calling card. Yeah, that was Agent

00:21:39.849 --> 00:21:42.529
McShane. He thought the tripping of the fire

00:21:42.529 --> 00:21:44.670
alarms might have been a tactic the IRA used

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in Northern Ireland to test police response times.

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And the IRA had used art theft for funding before.

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But ultimately, no solid evidence ever linked

00:21:54.349 --> 00:21:57.470
the paintings to Ireland. So the trail led away

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from the Irish mob. And... Right toward the Italian

00:22:00.480 --> 00:22:04.019
mafia. Yeah. Specifically a crew based in Dorchester.

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The Merlino gang. This is the theory the FBI

00:22:06.619 --> 00:22:08.759
said they have high confidence in. That's right.

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And to understand why this specific gang would

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do it, we have to understand the idea of art

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as leverage. This is such a key insight because

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the biggest question is. Why steal art you can't

00:22:19.339 --> 00:22:21.859
possibly sell? You can't put a Vermeer on eBay.

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You can't sell it to a legitimate collector without

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getting caught. Exactly. It's what's known as

00:22:26.700 --> 00:22:29.319
the hot potato. It's too famous. It's radioactive.

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But in the underworld, a masterpiece like this

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isn't for selling. It's a get -out -of -jail

00:22:34.720 --> 00:22:36.799
-free card. Explain how that works, practically.

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It's actually pretty simple. Let's say your boss

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gets arrested for racketeering or you're facing

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20 years for armed robbery. You have your lawyer

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make a quiet phone call to the district attorney.

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And say what? My client. He might know where

00:22:51.220 --> 00:22:54.160
the Gardner art is. If you were to, say, reduce

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his sentence, maybe the art finds its way home.

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So the painting becomes a hostage. It is the

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ultimate hostage. It's a bargaining chip. And

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at that time, the Merlino gang was in a lot of

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trouble. Their boss, Frank Salome, was under

00:23:06.259 --> 00:23:08.859
indictment. They needed chips. So who were the

00:23:08.859 --> 00:23:12.380
key players in this crew? Well, you have Carmelo

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Merlino, who ran an auto repair shop in Dorchester,

00:23:14.920 --> 00:23:17.680
a classic mob front. And then you have his associates,

00:23:17.859 --> 00:23:20.319
David Turner and George Reisfelder. These are

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rough guys, career criminals. And Reisfelder's

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particularly interesting, right? Very. He closely

00:23:26.339 --> 00:23:28.619
matched the police sketch of one of the thieves,

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the one with the fake mustache, potentially.

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And he died of a drug overdose just a year after

00:23:34.460 --> 00:23:37.519
the robbery in 1991. And there's that detail

00:23:37.519 --> 00:23:39.480
about a painting in his bedroom that just gives

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me goosebumps every time. It's incredible. Associates

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told the FBI that after the heist. Ricefelder

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had a painting hanging in his bedroom that looked

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an awful lot like the stolen Manet, Chez Tortoni.

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Just hanging on his wall. That is unbelievably

00:23:53.349 --> 00:23:55.950
bold. Incredibly reckless. Yeah. But it kind

00:23:55.950 --> 00:23:57.769
of fits the profile of these guys. They weren't

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art appreciators. They were trophy hunters. But

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Ricefelder died. Merlino died in prison, so the

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trail goes cold with them. It does. But the FBI

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believes they traced the movement of the art

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from Boston to Connecticut to a man named Robert

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Gentile. Robert Gentile. This guy is a character

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straight out of a Scorsese movie. A used car

00:24:16.779 --> 00:24:19.339
salesman and mobster from Manchester, Connecticut.

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Gentile, who passed away in 2021, was a longtime

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associate of the Merlino crew. The FBI's leading

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theory is that as the heat got too intense in

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Boston, the paintings were handed off to Gentile

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for safekeeping. He was the fence or the vault.

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And this leads to the famous backyard dig. This

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was huge news just a few years ago. It was. The

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FBI got a warrant. They stormed Gentile's house.

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They brought in ground -penetrating radar. They

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were absolutely convinced the art was buried

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on his property. He found something. They did.

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They found a false floor in his backyard shed.

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And beneath it was a ditch, a concrete -lined

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pit. But the ditch was empty. It was empty. Gentile's

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son later claimed it had flooded years before

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and probably ruined whatever had been in there.

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Oh, no. Inside Gentile's basement, the feds found

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something that convinced them they were on the

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right track. They found a handwritten list of

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all the stolen paintings with their estimated

00:25:14.059 --> 00:25:16.460
black market prices next to each one. That's

00:25:16.460 --> 00:25:18.960
just like a smoking gun. Why would a used car

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salesman in Connecticut have a price list for

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the Gardner art unless he was trying to sell

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it? Exactly. But Gentile was as old school as

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they come. He went to prison on unrelated charges.

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He was old. He was sick. He could have traded

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the art for his freedom, for better health care,

00:25:35.039 --> 00:25:37.039
for a comfortable end to his life. But he never

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talked. He stayed silent. He denied it until

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the very end. He always claimed he was being

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framed. So the art might have been in a shed

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in Connecticut and just rotted away. That is

00:25:46.619 --> 00:25:49.559
the absolute nightmare scenario. It is one of

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the leading theories, the damage theory. But

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there is another story, one that gives a little

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glimmer of hope. The story of the sighting. Right.

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The reporter Tom Mashberg. This whole episode

00:26:00.410 --> 00:26:03.269
feels like something out of a noir film. It really

00:26:03.269 --> 00:26:06.970
does. So in 1997, Mashberg, who was a reporter

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for the Boston Herald, was in contact with a

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criminal named William Youngworth. Youngworth

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was an antiques dealer with ties to the Myrtle

00:26:14.750 --> 00:26:17.250
Eno crew, and he claimed he could deliver the

00:26:17.250 --> 00:26:19.640
art. Or at least prove it still existed. So he

00:26:19.640 --> 00:26:21.779
takes the reporter for a ride. A classic late

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night ride. They drive to a warehouse in Red

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Hook, Brooklyn. It's dark. It smells like gasoline

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and damp cardboard. Just flashlights and a storage

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unit. That's the scene. Young Roof leads into

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a storage unit, pulls out this long cardboard

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tube, and he unrolls a canvas. Under the beam

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of a flashlight, Mashberg sees a seascape. He

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sees the storm, the boat, the waves. He sees

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the signature on the rudder of the ship, Rembrandt.

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And Mashberg was convinced. He wrote about it.

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He said he felt the soul of the painting. He

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was absolutely convinced. He noted the cracking

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on the canvas, which was consistent with the

00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:00.480
kind of damage we talked about. He saw the jagged

00:27:00.480 --> 00:27:02.519
edges where it had been cut from the frame. But

00:27:02.519 --> 00:27:05.200
experts are skeptical. Why? If he saw it, he

00:27:05.200 --> 00:27:07.420
saw it. Well, first there's the unfurling issue.

00:27:07.559 --> 00:27:10.519
As we discussed, the storm on the Sea of Galilee

00:27:10.519 --> 00:27:13.529
was covered in this. thick, heavy varnish. If

00:27:13.529 --> 00:27:15.470
you tried to roll it up tightly enough to fit

00:27:15.470 --> 00:27:17.970
in a tube, the paint would likely shatter into

00:27:17.970 --> 00:27:20.470
a million pieces. It shouldn't unfurl easily

00:27:20.470 --> 00:27:23.250
like a poster. It should be stiff as a board.

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So it might have been a good forgery. It's possible.

00:27:25.549 --> 00:27:28.289
Or maybe it was done from stolen painting. But

00:27:28.289 --> 00:27:31.009
Youngworth also provided paint chips to the reporter

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as proof. Scrape them right off the canvas. And

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what did the lab results say? This is where it

00:27:36.230 --> 00:27:39.130
gets really murky. The chips were from the right

00:27:39.130 --> 00:27:42.200
time period. 17th century. They contained the

00:27:42.200 --> 00:27:44.740
right pigments, but the chemical analysis couldn't

00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:47.700
definitively match them to the specific oils

00:27:47.700 --> 00:27:52.039
used in that Rembrandt. However, some of the

00:27:52.039 --> 00:27:54.440
tests suggested the chips could be a match for

00:27:54.440 --> 00:27:57.400
the Vermeer. For the concert. Yes. But the whole

00:27:57.400 --> 00:27:59.779
thing fell apart. Youngworth wasn't doing this

00:27:59.779 --> 00:28:02.240
for his health. He wanted full immunity, all

00:28:02.240 --> 00:28:04.759
$10 million of the reward, and the release of

00:28:04.759 --> 00:28:07.279
his friend, a legendary art thief named Miles

00:28:07.279 --> 00:28:10.200
Connor from jail. And the Fed said no. The Feds

00:28:10.200 --> 00:28:12.160
don't negotiate with criminals like that. They

00:28:12.160 --> 00:28:14.599
said no and the lead went cold, just vanished.

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Which brings us to where we are today. It's been

00:28:16.900 --> 00:28:19.599
over 30 years. The case is still open. And the

00:28:19.599 --> 00:28:21.700
legal landscape has changed in a really important

00:28:21.700 --> 00:28:24.519
way. The statute of limitations for the theft

00:28:24.519 --> 00:28:28.359
itself. It expired back in 1995. Okay, explain

00:28:28.359 --> 00:28:29.960
what that means for our listeners. If I'm the

00:28:29.960 --> 00:28:31.779
guy who stole it, I can't be arrested for stealing

00:28:31.779 --> 00:28:34.619
it anymore. Correct. You cannot be prosecuted

00:28:34.619 --> 00:28:36.859
for the specific crime of robbery that happened

00:28:36.859 --> 00:28:40.579
on March 18, 1990. That ship has sailed. However.

00:28:40.819 --> 00:28:44.740
There's always a however. You can still be prosecuted

00:28:44.740 --> 00:28:47.259
for possession of stolen property, which is a

00:28:47.259 --> 00:28:49.740
continuing crime. As long as you have the art,

00:28:49.839 --> 00:28:52.220
you are actively committing a felony. So whoever

00:28:52.220 --> 00:28:55.339
has it is still trapped. They are. But the U

00:28:55.339 --> 00:28:57.160
.S. Attorney's Office has offered this incredible

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deal. They have stated very clearly and publicly,

00:29:00.539 --> 00:29:03.599
if the art is returned, there will be no prosecution,

00:29:03.920 --> 00:29:07.119
total immunity. They just want the culture back.

00:29:07.339 --> 00:29:10.000
And there's the money. The reward is now at $10

00:29:10.000 --> 00:29:12.680
million. It is the largest private bounty ever

00:29:12.680 --> 00:29:15.359
offered for stolen property. $10 million. You

00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:17.200
could buy an island with that. You could disappear

00:29:17.200 --> 00:29:21.609
forever. And yet. Still silence. Why? There are

00:29:21.609 --> 00:29:23.650
really three main theories on why they haven't

00:29:23.650 --> 00:29:25.569
been recovered. The first is the hot potato theory

00:29:25.569 --> 00:29:28.069
we talk about. The art is just too radioactive.

00:29:28.309 --> 00:29:29.769
Everyone in the world knows what it looks like.

00:29:29.829 --> 00:29:31.869
To show it is to get caught. So it just stays

00:29:31.869 --> 00:29:33.910
hidden in a basement, terrified of the light.

00:29:34.089 --> 00:29:36.309
Okay, what's theory two? The code of silence,

00:29:36.490 --> 00:29:40.369
or omerta. The people who know where it is are

00:29:40.369 --> 00:29:42.849
gangsters who would rather die in prison than

00:29:42.849 --> 00:29:45.990
be labeled a rat. We saw that with Robert Gentile.

00:29:46.069 --> 00:29:49.019
And the third theory. The one I really hate to

00:29:49.019 --> 00:29:52.579
think about. The tragedy theory. That the art

00:29:52.579 --> 00:29:56.240
is just destroyed. That these amateur thieves

00:29:56.240 --> 00:29:58.839
stored these delicate centuries -old masterpieces

00:29:58.839 --> 00:30:01.920
in a damp basement or a sweltering attic. That

00:30:01.920 --> 00:30:03.940
the temperature fluctuations caused the paint

00:30:03.940 --> 00:30:06.400
to flake off and separate from the canvas. That

00:30:06.400 --> 00:30:09.029
they've basically turned to dust and mold. That

00:30:09.029 --> 00:30:11.809
the empty ditch in Gentile's shed really was

00:30:11.809 --> 00:30:14.109
the final resting place. It's a possibility we

00:30:14.109 --> 00:30:16.549
have to consider. I just refuse to accept that.

00:30:16.630 --> 00:30:19.089
Most people in the art world do too. Art is surprisingly

00:30:19.089 --> 00:30:22.289
resilient. And leverage is only useful if the

00:30:22.289 --> 00:30:24.990
asset still exists. If it's a pile of dust, it's

00:30:24.990 --> 00:30:26.910
worth nothing. If it's a painting, it's worth

00:30:26.910 --> 00:30:29.470
your freedom. So as we wrap up this deep dive,

00:30:29.630 --> 00:30:31.970
it all comes back to those empty frames on the

00:30:31.970 --> 00:30:34.069
wall. They're such a powerful symbol. They really

00:30:34.069 --> 00:30:36.490
represent hope. The museum hasn't filled them

00:30:36.490 --> 00:30:38.710
because they truly expect the art to return someday.

00:30:39.269 --> 00:30:41.630
They are in a way keeping the lights on for the

00:30:41.630 --> 00:30:44.089
concert in the storm. They're waiting. It's just

00:30:44.089 --> 00:30:47.210
a perfect storm of lax security, opportunistic

00:30:47.210 --> 00:30:50.589
gangsters, and this tragic, tragic loss of our

00:30:50.589 --> 00:30:53.769
shared cultural heritage. But the story isn't

00:30:53.769 --> 00:30:56.730
over. No, it's not. And here's a provocative

00:30:56.730 --> 00:30:59.930
thought to leave you with. We often imagine these

00:30:59.930 --> 00:31:02.289
paintings are in the castle of some drug lord

00:31:02.289 --> 00:31:04.869
in Colombia. or in a secret vault in Switzerland.

00:31:05.210 --> 00:31:07.789
We think of a Bond villain. Right. But given

00:31:07.789 --> 00:31:10.569
the intensely localized nature of all the main

00:31:10.569 --> 00:31:14.450
suspects, Dorchester, Revere, Connecticut, it

00:31:14.450 --> 00:31:16.910
is highly probable that these masterpieces are

00:31:16.910 --> 00:31:18.950
still within a short drive of where we're sitting

00:31:18.950 --> 00:31:21.150
right now. They're not in Saudi Arabia. They're

00:31:21.150 --> 00:31:23.150
still somewhere in New England. Very likely.

00:31:23.569 --> 00:31:25.569
They could be in someone's attic. They could

00:31:25.569 --> 00:31:28.549
be behind a false wall in a suburban home. It's

00:31:28.549 --> 00:31:30.730
even possible the person who has them now doesn't

00:31:30.730 --> 00:31:33.109
even know what they are. You mean like granddad

00:31:33.109 --> 00:31:35.529
passed away, he left this weird dusty roll of

00:31:35.529 --> 00:31:37.690
canvas in the garage, and nobody's thought to

00:31:37.690 --> 00:31:39.650
look at it for 20 years? It's entirely possible.

00:31:39.910 --> 00:31:41.990
Or maybe someone is sitting on them right now,

00:31:42.089 --> 00:31:45.049
just terrified, not realizing that the $10 million

00:31:45.049 --> 00:31:48.650
is real and the promise of amnesty is real. They're

00:31:48.650 --> 00:31:50.910
just paralyzed by the weight of the secret. So

00:31:50.910 --> 00:31:52.630
if you're out there listening and you're cleaning

00:31:52.630 --> 00:31:55.230
out your attic this weekend, maybe take a second

00:31:55.230 --> 00:31:57.349
look at that old painting. And remember the reward.

00:31:58.700 --> 00:32:02.660
$10 million. No questions asked. The empty frames

00:32:02.660 --> 00:32:04.940
are waiting. Thanks for diving deep with us.

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Until next time.
