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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are unpacking

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a topic that I think culturally we have miscategorized

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for what, about two decades now? At least. We

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tend to file cyberbullying way in this mental

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drawer that's just labeled high school problems,

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you know, right alongside prom drama and detention.

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But looking at the stack of research we have

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for today, that feels like a, I don't know, a

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dangerous oversimplification. It really is. We're

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looking at a phenomenon that has, I mean, It's

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essentially industrialized harassment. It's weaponized

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algorithms. It's created this massive legal gray

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zone that affects everyone, right? From the 14

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-year -old gamer all the way up to the 45 -year

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-old doctor. Absolutely. It is definitely not

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just a schoolyard issue anymore if it ever really

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was. Right. I mean, when you look at the trajectory

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from the early 2000s to now, we aren't just seeing

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an increase in volume. We're seeing a fundamental

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shift in the nature of the direction itself.

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How so? Well, the iSafe Foundation data from

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2015, which, you know, by Internet standards,

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that's... practically ancient history, but it's

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still our baseline. Sure. It showed that over

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50 % of adolescents had been bullied online.

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But the stat that always, always jumps out at

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me is the parity. The parity? Yeah, that nearly

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the same number had engaged in it. Wow. Which

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suggests this isn't a simple case of like...

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predators and prey. Exactly. It's more of an

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ecosystem where the roles are fluid. You can

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be the victim on Tuesday and the aggressor on

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Wednesday. And that ubiquity, that fluidity makes

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defining it actually pretty difficult. I know

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in the legal world and in sociology, there's

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a lot of friction between what constitutes just

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being mean and what constitutes actual bullying.

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That's the first hurdle, isn't it? Because if

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you're going to legislate it or study it, you

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have to know what it is. That's it. And if we

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use the academic definition, cyberbullying requires

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three very specific components. Aggression, repetition,

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and a power imbalance. Okay, aggression and repetition

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I get. But that third one, power imbalance, that

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seems like it would get really tricky online.

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It's the trickiest part. In a physical school

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hallway, power is usually obvious. It's physical

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size. It's... Social status, you know, popularity.

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The captain of the football team versus the kid

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from the AV club. A classic example. But online,

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power is anonymity. Power is technical skill.

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Power is having a bigger folder of screenshots

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than the other person. The dynamics are completely

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different. Right. And we have to distinguish

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that from just a flame war, which I think a lot

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of people confuse with bullying. 100%. If I get

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into an argument with someone on ex -formally

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Twitter and we're just, you know, trading insults,

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that's conflict. It's toxic maybe, but it's peer

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to peer. Yes. Both parties have a roughly equal

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ability to disengage or to fight back. Bullying,

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then, implies that the victim has lost the agency

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to stop it. They're trapped. That's the core

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of it. Conflict is a negotiation of power. Bullying

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is the abuse of it. But, and this is a really

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critical insight from the researcher Dana Boyd,

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if you talk to teenagers, they almost never use

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the word bullying. Oh, that's interesting. What

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do they call it? They call it drama. To them,

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bullying is a childish term. It's what happens

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to little kids on the playground. They classify

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almost everything we're talking about today as

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drama. I found Boyd's analysis on this fascinating

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because drama feels like such a minimizing word,

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doesn't it? It does. It implies entertainment.

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It implies that everyone involved is kind of

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a willing participant in a performance for an

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audience. And that is precisely the function

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of the word. By calling it drama, teens reclaim

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a sense of agency. It's a coping mechanism. So

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it's not I'm a victim of abuse. It's I'm just

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caught up in some drama. Exactly. It normalizes

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the violence. It frames what is essentially psychological

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warfare as just a feature of the social landscape,

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like bad weather or a pop quiz. But that linguistic

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shift, it doesn't change the clinical outcome,

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right? The trauma response in the brain is the

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same, regardless of whether you label it drama

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or abuse. The brain doesn't care about the label.

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The cortisol spike's just the same. So if drama

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is the umbrella term they're using, we need to

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look at the specific mechanics under that umbrella

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because the toolkit for this has evolved so significantly.

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Oh, massively. We aren't talking about mean emails

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anymore. We're talking about tactics that can

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destroy credit scores, physical safety, future

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employability. I mean, the stakes are so much

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higher. They really are. Let's start with the

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escalation from just monitoring someone's profile

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to what we call cyber stalking. Okay. Cyberstalking

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is the bridge where digital harassment crosses

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into physical danger. It's defined by the presence

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of a credible threat. A credible threat of what?

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Physical harm? Usually, yes. It's not just looking

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at someone's Instagram stories. It's using that

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location data to map their daily movements. It's

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making false accusations to their employer or

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their family. And crucially, it often involves

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what's called proxy harassment. Proxy harassment.

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Encouraging third parties to attack the victim

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on your behalf. You stir up a mob. Which leads

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us directly to doxing. I think most listeners

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probably know the basic definition publishing

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private info like an address or a phone number

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online. Right. But the intent behind doxing is

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what I want to drill into. It's rarely about

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just revealing information for its own sake.

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No, it's a call to arms. It's painting a target

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on someone's back and then handing the coordinates

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to an anonymous angry mob. It relies on the weaponization

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of the crowd. The doxer doesn't want to show

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up at your house. They want a hundred strangers

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to show up at your house, or at least to call

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it nonstop. And the catalysts for this can be

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incredibly, incredibly trivial. We have the K

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-pop war case study in the notes, which really

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highlights the asymmetry of motivation versus

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consequence. This story is wild. You have the

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Blinks, who are fans of the group Blackpink,

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and you have fans of the rival group Twice. These

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are pop music fandoms. On the surface, yes. But

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the infrastructure they have built is almost

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paramilitary. The level of organization is staggering.

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It is. In this specific case, there was a perceived

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slight, a member of TWICE. allegedly disrespected

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a member of Black Ink. Something tiny. Well,

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they didn't bow correctly or something? Something

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exactly like that. And in retaliation, the fans

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didn't just tweet angry things. They identified

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the owner of a popular Twice fan account, doxed

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them, completely addressed phone number of family

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members. Oh, my God. And the harassment was so

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severe and so coordinated that the victim ended

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up being hospitalized. From a discussion about

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pop music to a hospital bed. That's the leap.

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That is that drama. nuance again, outsiders might

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see music fans arguing, but the mechanism is

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a highly organized assault. And it often utilizes

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another tactic. Yeah. Digital identity theft

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or impersonation. This is another one that is

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scaled up massively. Right. In the old days,

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you might pretend to be someone in an AOL chat

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room. Yeah, for an hour. Now, you can clone a

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person's entire digital identity to systematically

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destroy their reputation, create a fake social

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media account that looks exactly like theirs,

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and start posting hateful content. The Sony Music

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Twitter hack is the classic large scale example

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of how fragile our verification systems are.

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It really is. The account gets compromised. Somebody

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tweets hashtag RIBritney and for a solid what?

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20, 30 minutes, a significant portion of the

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world believes Britney Spears is dead. That's

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reputation destruction at a global scale. But

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bring that down to the micro level. A high school

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student hacking a rival's Instagram account and

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posting racist slurs or a fake confession to

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a crime. And the screenshot lasts forever. Even

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if you eventually prove you were hacked, that

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image of you saying that horrible thing circulates

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indefinitely. This is the permanence. That's

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what makes it so lethal. It's never truly gone.

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And that permanence is the leverage point. extortion.

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This is arguably the most predatory tactic we

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are seeing. It's just horrific. It's a distinct

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criminal enterprise. The goal is to acquire intimate

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images, either coerced from the victim or stolen,

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and then use them as blackmail. For money, for

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more images, for control. The WF West High School

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case is the nightmare scenario here. We aren't

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talking about a messy breakup where one person

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shares a photo out of anger. No, not at all.

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We are talking about a 16 -year -old boy running

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a digital extortion ring from his bedroom. The

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scale was industrial. One student, over 100 victims,

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many of them his classmates, and he possessed

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over 900 images and videos. 900? He wasn't just

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getting back at an ex. He was systematically

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collecting leverage on his entire peer group.

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He used the threat of releasing these images

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to control them, to get money from them, or sometimes

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just to inflict pain. It effectively turns the

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victim's own privacy into a hostage. And because

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of the shame associated with it, the victims

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are terrified to go to the police or to their

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parents. It's the perfect crime in that sense.

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It relies on silence. Which is why the perpetrator

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got away with it for as long as he did. He understood

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that the social cost for the victims of coming

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forward was higher than the risk of him getting

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caught until it wasn't. Until one person was

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brave enough? I want to pivot now to a specific

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historical moment that I think really defined

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the viral era of bullying. We have to talk about

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Ghislaine Raza, who is known to the entire internet

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as the Star Wars kid. This is effectively patient

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zero. If you want to understand the modern viral

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ecosystem, the modern meme culture, you have

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to understand what happened to Ghislaine Raza

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in 2003. Right. And to set the scene, you have

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to remember what 2003 was like. This is pre -YouTube,

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pre -iPhone, pre -social media algorithms. There

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was no for you page pushing content. Exactly.

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The viral mechanism wasn't the algorithm. It

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was peer to peer. It was file sharing services

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like Kazaa and LimeWire. It was email chains.

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For a video to hit. 900 million views in 2003,

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which is the conservative estimate. It required

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active human effort. People had to download a

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clunky 20 megabyte WMV file. Oh, I remember those.

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They had to save it to their hard drive. They

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had to attach it to an email and send it to their

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friends. It was a manual cascade of humiliation.

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And the content itself was so innocent. He's

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a ninth grader in Quebec. He's a little overweight.

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And he's in a studio filming himself practicing

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lightsaber moves with a golf ball retriever.

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Because he's a fan of the Phantom Menace. That's

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it. It's just a kid being a kid. And he didn't

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upload it. He left the tape in a basement at

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his school. This is the part of the story that

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always gets me. That is the violation of consent

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that often gets overlooked in the telling. Classmates

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found the tape, they digitized it, and they unleashed

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it on the Internet. without his knowledge or

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permission. He didn't seek fame. He was drafted

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into it. And the fallout was, it was catastrophic.

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We aren't just talking about people online laughing

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at a funny video. No, this was total life disruption.

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He was doxxed before we really had a popular

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word for it. People found his family's phone

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number. They were calling his house, telling

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him to admit suicide. Over a video of him playing

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with a golf club. And the harassment bridged

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the online -offline gap almost immediately. Students

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at his own school were jumping onto tabletops

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in the cafeteria to mock his moves right in front

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of him. He became a global punchline. He was

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parodied on South Park, on Arrested Development,

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on pretty much every late night show. Imagine

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being 15 years old and having global pop culture

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turn against you for something you did in private.

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He had to change schools. Eventually he had to

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be homeschooled. He was diagnosed with severe

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depression. It completely derailed his adolescence.

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And the legal recourse at the time was so messy

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because the laws just didn't exist yet, did they?

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They didn't. His family ended up suing the families

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of the classmates who uploaded the video for

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around $250 ,000. They settled out of court.

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But it highlighted this massive gap in the legal

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system regarding the right to privacy for private

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figures who become public spectacles against

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their will. What's amazing is that Raza is an

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adult now and he's done an incredible job reclaiming

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his own narrative. He has. He went to law school

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and he now works on issues related to digital

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privacy and public humiliation, trying to help

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others. He's trying to turn it around. But he

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lost his entire adolescence to a meme. It's just

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a stark reminder that the internet has a very,

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very long memory, and it doesn't really do forgiveness.

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It doesn't. Your worst moment can become your

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permanent identity. That brings us to the where.

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We've talked about what they do, but the platforms

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themselves shape the behavior. You mentioned

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earlier that anonymity is power. Nowhere is that

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more true than in the world of online gaming.

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Gaming is a unique vector for this. partly because

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of the immersion. You are locked in a shared

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virtual space with others for hours at a time.

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It's intense. And the numbers back that up. Pew

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Research notes that 16 % of harassment victims

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say their most recent serious incident happened

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inside a game. And the technical sophistication

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of harassment in gaming is on another level.

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I mean, look at the phenomenon of hate raids

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on Twitch. This is where it gets really technical.

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A hate raid isn't just a bunch of people deciding

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to be mean in a chat. No, it's automation. It's

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industrialized hate. Attackers use scripts to

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deploy hundreds or even thousands of chatbots,

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fake accounts, that all flood a streamer's chat

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at the exact same moment. With what, just spam?

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With racist slurs, death threats, doxing information.

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The chat moves so fast that human moderators

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can't possibly keep up. You can't delete it.

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It forces the streamer to shut down their broadcast.

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So it's a denial of service attack, but for a

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person's speech? Using slurs as the weapon. It

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effectively censors them through noise. And then

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there's swatting, which we touched on before.

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But I want to get into the mechanics of why this

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is so hard to stop. You'd think the police would

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know if a 911 call is fake. The problem is VoIP

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voice over IP technology. Swatters use internet

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-based calling services that can mask their real

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location. They can spoof the number so it looks

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to the 911 operator like the call is coming from

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inside the victim's house. So the operator sees

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a local number, hears a credible threat of a

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hostage situation or a bomb. They have to take

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it seriously. They have no choice. They have

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to assume it's real and send a full tactical

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response. And the consequences are lethal. The

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2017 Wichita case. The death of Andrew Finch.

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That case is the most tragic example of how virtual

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actions can have devastating kinetic results

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in the real world. And what was it over? A dispute

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over a $1 .50 bet in a game of Call of Duty.

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$1 .50? $1 .50. One player gets angry, tweets

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a fake address to a third party daring them to

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do something. The other player takes the bait,

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calls in a fake hostage situation at that address.

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But it wasn't the other player's address. No.

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It was the address of Andrew Finch, a completely

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innocent man who didn't even play the game. He

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had nothing to do with it. The police surrounded

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his house. He walked out onto his porch, confused,

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and a police sniper shot and killed him. It's

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manslaughter by proxy. It's just unbelievable.

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And yet you have figures inside the gaming community

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who will defend the toxicity. Yes, which is maybe

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the most disturbing part. We have this quote

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from Eris Bactanians, a well -known fighting

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game coach, that really encapsulates this gatekeeper

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mentality. It was a very revealing moment. He

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argued on a live stream that sexual harassment

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was part of the culture of the fighting game

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community. His words. Part of the culture. He

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said that removing it or policing it would destroy

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the community's identity. It's an explicit defense

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of abuse as a form of cultural heritage. The

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argument is basically, we are tough, we are mean,

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we are toxic, and if you can't handle it, get

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out. It's the locker room talk defense. but digitized

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and scaled up. It's about gatekeeping, about

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keeping certain people, often women, out of the

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space. And we see a different but maybe related

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version of that hostility on dating apps. Dating

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apps are designed for vulnerability, which is

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what makes the abuse on them hit so much harder.

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You're putting yourself out there trying to make

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a connection. And the stats are pretty grim.

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60 % of female users aged 18 to 34 report receiving

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unsolicited sexual messages or images. And it's

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not just women. 36 % of all users, men and women,

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report experiencing some form of online abuse

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on these apps. It creates a kind of a tax on

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finding a partner. If you want to use these tools

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to date in the modern world, you have to be willing

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to endure a certain level of harassment. It's

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an exclusion tax. It pushes people away, it increases

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anxiety, and it makes people less willing to

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be vulnerable in a space that requires vulnerability

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to work. It's a fundamental design flaw, almost.

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Speaking of design, I want to talk about Google

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Bombs. This is a tactic that feels like dark

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magic to the average user, but it's actually

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just manipulating the basic plumbing of the search

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engine. It's search engine optimization SEO,

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but weaponized. It's a really clever and evil

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manipulation of how Google's algorithm works.

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How does it work? Well, Google's algorithm relies

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heavily on something called anchor text. That's

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the clickable words people use when they link

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to a website. If thousands of websites link to

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your personal blog using the words brilliant

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scientist, Google's algorithm starts to assume

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that you are, in fact, a brilliant scientist.

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It sees the consensus. Exactly. So what bullies

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do is they reverse it. They create link farms.

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networks of fake websites or blogs, and they

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all point to the victim's social media profile

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or their business page. But they use negative

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anchor text, words like criminal or liar or something

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much worse. So it's not about truth. It's about

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volume and consensus. It has nothing to do with

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truth. It's an information cascade. They game

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the PageRank system so that the first thing a

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future employer or a new date or anyone sees

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when they Google your name is this horrible lie

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presented as the number one search result. It's

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like digitally rewriting someone's resume against

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their will. So we know the how, but let's get

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into the who. Because the profile of the bully

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isn't what those 1980s teen movies taught us,

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is it? No, the Nelson from the Simpsons archetype.

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The big, physically imposing, but not very bright

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bully. That just doesn't apply here. So what

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does the research say? Some of the research is

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really counterintuitive. It indicates that cyber

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victims are often the physically stronger or

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socially dominant students in the offline world.

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Wait, that flips the entire script. So the captain

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of the football team is more likely to be the

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target. In some contexts, yes, because online

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bullying is the great equalizer. It's a form

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of asymmetric warfare. Meaning what? Meaning

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if I can't beat you in a fistfight or I can't

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compete with your popularity in the hallway,

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I can go online and absolutely destroy you because

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online physical strength is irrelevant. Anonymity

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is my strength. So it's the weapon of choice

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for the physically weaker to attack the physically

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stronger. Or the socially less powerful to attack

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the socially powerful. It's a way to punch up

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in a sense, but using these really destructive

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tactics. And personality wise, are we seeing

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signs of like sociopathy or is it just boredom

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and cruelty? The profiles often show high levels

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of anger. Low empathy and high impulsivity. But

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the gender dynamics here are also really nuanced.

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There's this common trope that bullying is a

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boy thing. But the data says otherwise. The data

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says that while boys might initiate physical

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bullying earlier, by middle school, girls are

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actually more likely to engage in cyberbullying

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than boys are. More likely. Why? It seems to

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align with evolutionary psychology theories regarding

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indirect aggression. Right. The idea that stereotypically

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boys are socialized for direct physical confrontation,

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shoving, hitting, while girls are often socialized

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for reputational management. Precisely. The weapons

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are gossip, social exclusion. manipulation. The

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Internet is the ultimate engine for indirect

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aggression. It allows you to destroy someone's

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reputation and social standing without ever having

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to throw a punch. Which would explain stats like

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the 2014 study we have here where 80 percent

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of body shaming tweets were sent by women. It's

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a brutal competitive arena for social standing.

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And for women, historically, that competition

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has often been indirect and focused on reputation

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and appearance. The Internet just amplifies that.

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There is one subcategory of the who that is just.

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It's completely baffling, and that's digital

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self -harm. This is often the hardest one for

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parents and educators to understand or even believe

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is real. So explain what it is. This is when

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a teen creates an anonymous account online to

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cyberbully themselves. They post hateful comments

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on their own photos. They send themselves anonymous

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threats. Why? Is it a cry for help? Is it some

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kind of strategy? It can be several things. It's

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often a very maladaptive coping mechanism. Sometimes

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it's validation seeking. They post hate on their

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own page, hoping their real friends will jump

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into the comments and say, no, you're beautiful.

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Ignore them. So it's a way to test their support

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network. In a very risky way, yes. Other times

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it's a direct manifestation of depression or

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self -loathing. They're essentially externalizing

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their own negative internal monologue. But from

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the outside, it creates this statistical noise

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that makes it very hard to track real bullying

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incidents. Let's talk about the impact of all

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of this. We touched on the young minds theory

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in our prep notes. I think this is crucial for

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understanding why teens don't just turn off the

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phone. I think it's the most important concept.

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The young minds theory is rooted in neurobiology.

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The prefrontal cortex. That's the part of the

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brain responsible for impulse control, for risk

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assessment, for emotional regulation. It isn't

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fully developed until a person is in their mid

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-20s. So when an adult like us reads a mean comment

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online, we have the biological hardware to process

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it and say, OK, this is a troll in their mother's

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basement. This doesn't matter. I'm moving on.

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Right. We have a filter. We can compartmentalize.

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We can separate our sense of self from the opinion

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of an anonymous stranger. But a 14 -year -old

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often lacks that separation. Their brain can't

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do it as effectively. Their online identity and

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their real -world identity are often completely

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fused. So when they read a comment that says

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you are worthless and should die, their brain

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processes that. as absolute objective truth,

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not as one person's nasty opinion. The abuse

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bypasses the logic center and hits the emotional

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core directly. It's a direct shot to the amygdala.

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There is no filter. Which explains the direct

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and tragic line to the term cyberbullicide. It's

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a controversial term, but a necessary one to

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describe suicide that has been influenced by

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online aggression. We see these heartbreaking

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cases like Megan Meyer, Ryan Halligan, or Rebecca

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Ann Sedgwick, young people who were essentially

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hounded to death online. Rebecca's case was particularly

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awful. She was terrorized on apps like Ask .fm

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and Kik. platforms that allowed for total anonymity,

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the harassment was relentless and inescapable.

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And that inescapability is the key difference

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from, say, bullying in 1990. Back then, home

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was a safe zone. You could close your front door

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and leave the bully at school. Not anymore. The

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bully's in your pocket. It's on your phone. You

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wake up to new messages from them. You go to

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sleep reading their threats. But the body never

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gets a break. Never. The cortisol levels, the

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primary stress hormone, they never drop. Your

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body is in a permanent state of fight or flight,

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which is why we see such severe... severe psychosomatic

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symptoms, chronic stomach aches, bed wetting

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in older kids, severe acne flare -ups, sleep

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disorders. The body is screaming for help. And

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this isn't just about kids, though. We are seeing

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a significant chilling effect on professionals

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who are targeted. Doctors, scientists, journalists.

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Absolutely. Think about it. If you're a public

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health expert and you post factual information

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about vaccines and you get swarmed by thousands

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of bots and death threats from anti -vaccine

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activists. You might just decide it's not worth

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it. You stop posting. We, the public, lose your

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expertise. It's a form of soft censorship via

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coordinated harassment. The public square becomes

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dumber and more dangerous because the smart,

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qualified people are too scared to enter it.

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So with stakes this high, why is the law so bad

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at fixing this? If I walked up to someone on

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the street and screamed threats in their face,

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I'd be arrested. Why is the Internet so often

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a legal dead zone? In the U .S., it comes down

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to the constant powerful friction between ensuring

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safety and protecting the First Amendment. The

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U .S. legal system is extremely protective of

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speech, even speech that is vile and hateful.

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Let's look at the People v. Marquand M case in

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Albany County, New York. This felt like a pivotal

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moment that went the wrong way for victims. It

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was a textbook example of a legal doctrine called

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void for vagueness. Albany County passed a law

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trying to criminalize cyberbullying, but they

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defined it as any communication intended to annoy,

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harass, or alarm another person. And the problem

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is that little word, annoy. Legally, annoy is

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incredibly subjective and broad. If I post a

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political opinion that you passionately disagree

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with, I am, by definition, annoying you. So under

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that law, I could be arrested for a political

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tweet. Potentially, yes. And that's why the New

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York Court of Appeals struck the law down. It

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cast a net so wide that it inevitably caught

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constitutionally protected speech. You generally

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cannot legislate against being mean without also

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infringing on the right to be opinionated. Unless

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it crosses the line into what the courts call

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true threats. Right. And that line is very specific.

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I am going to kill you tomorrow at 4 p .m. at

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your house is a prime. I hope you die in a fire

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is, in most cases, legally protected speech.

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That gap between a threat and a wish is where

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the bullies live. Other countries handle this

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very differently, though. The Philippines has

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cyber libel laws. Very strict ones, yes. And

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China has gone very aggressive recently. What

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have they done? China's 2023 guidelines are interesting

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because they sidestep the free speech debate.

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They specifically target cyber violence and doxing.

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But the enforcement mechanism is the platform

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itself. So they punish the companies? They hold

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the platforms like Weibo or TikTok. accountable

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if they fail to moderate and remove the abusive

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content. It forces the tech companies to be the

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police. Whereas in the U .S., Section 230 of

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the Communications Decency Act largely shields

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platforms from liability for what their users

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post. Exactly. It's a completely different philosophy.

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Yeah. You see the EU carving out a kind of middle

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ground, focusing heavily on things like the right

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to be forgotten. Which is the ability to force

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search engines to de -index that Google bomb

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we talked about earlier. Yes, to clean up your

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digital reputation. And they're also very strong

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on employer accountability. If you're being billied

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by a coworker on the company's Slack channel,

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the company is held liable for not providing

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a safe work environment. So if the law is slow

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and clunky, what actually works? We see tech

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solutions like that Back Off Bully app developed

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by teens in Connecticut to report bullying anonymously.

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But tech solutions feel like Band -Aids on a

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gaping wound. The tech can be a useful tool,

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but the solution has to be cultural. It comes

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down to the bystander. The person who sees it

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happening. We know from the research that 95

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% of teens on social media have witnessed cruel

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behavior online. 55 % say they witness it frequently.

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But the vast majority do nothing. It's the classic

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bystander effect. Someone else will fix it. That

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or it's fear. Fear of becoming the next target

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if they intervene. But the research is also clear

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on this. When a bystander does intervene, even

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just by posting a simple comment like, hey, this

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isn't cool, the bullying stops within 10 seconds

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in over half of all cases. 10 seconds. That's

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incredible. The bully relies on the silence of

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the audience. They are performing. When the audience

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signals disapproval, the performance ends. It's

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like you're removing the oxygen from the fire.

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And the other piece of this is parents. The Canadian

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study during the early days of COVID was so counterintuitive.

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Screen time for kids went through the roof, but

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bullying rates didn't spike. The researchers

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speculated it was because parents were settling

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home. They were in the same house. They were

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looking over their kids' shoulders more often.

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Active supervision is still the best parental

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control software we have. So to try and wrap

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this all up, what we really have is a behavioral

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that is ancient and human. But it's being channeled

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through tools that are inhumanly efficient and

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permanent. That's a perfect summary. Cyberbullying

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is the ancient human impulse to ostracize and

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establish social hierarchies. But it's been amplified

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by the speed, the anonymity, and the permanence

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of the Internet. And as we leave the listeners

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today, you had a final provocative thought for

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us to mull over about the economy of bullying.

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I think we need to ask ourselves a really hard

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question. We look at things like hate raids on

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Twitch or massive Twitter pylons and we call

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it bullying. We call it harassment. But the algorithms

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that run these platforms, they have a different

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word for it. They call it engagement. Right.

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High conflict equals high clicks. We have built

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a digital economy that financially rewards conflict.

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The angriest, meanest, most controversial posts

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get the most views, the most shares, the most

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ad revenue. So the question is, have we accidentally

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built a society that actively incentivizes bullying?

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And if 90 % of us just ignore it when we see

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it, or if we click on the drama or share the

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outrage, are we just the silent audience in the

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stands applauding the gladiator match? That is

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a haunting note to end on. Are we funding the

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Coliseum with our own attention? Thank you for

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walking us through the very dark side of the

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web today. It's an important if difficult journey

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to take. Thank you. Take care of your digital

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selves out there, everyone. And maybe be the

00:29:35.160 --> 00:29:37.440
bystander that speaks up. We'll see you in the

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next Deep Dive.
