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Welcome back to another deep dive. We are so

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glad you're here with us. It's good to be back.

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Usually when we sit down to do this, we are wrestling

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with, you know, a massive stack of papers. Oh,

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yeah. Research journals, opinion pieces. Maybe

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a dense nonfiction book or two about, I don't

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know, the global economy or the history of salt.

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Take all that complexity and try to distill it.

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Right, into something you can actually use. But

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today... Today is a little different. A lot different.

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Today, our source material isn't a library. It's

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a single word. One word. Four letters. Fame.

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That's it. That is the entire scope of our mission

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today. It sounds simple. It does. But before

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you think we're just going to talk about celebrities

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and red carpets for an hour, I need you to look

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at the document we're actually analyzing. We're

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doing a deep dive into a disambiguation page.

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And for those who don't spend their lives, you

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know... navigating information architecture.

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What exactly is that? A disambiguation page is

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a fascinating corner of the internet. It's essentially

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a traffic cop for the English language. A traffic

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cop. I like that. It's the place you end up when

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a word has become so overloaded, so heavy with

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different meanings and contexts that the dictionary

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just throws its hands up and says. Okay, you

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typed in fame, but which one did you mean? Exactly.

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Did you mean the David Bowie song? Did you mean

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the chemical compound? Or the tiny town in Mississippi?

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It's like an archaeological dig site for culture.

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That's a great way to put it. You peel back the

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layers of this one word and you find these wildly

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different artifacts just buried next to each

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other. By the end of this hour, we are going

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to connect Lady Gaga to renewable energy. And

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we are going to draw a line between... A magic

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club for teenagers and a canceled NASA satellite.

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I can't wait for that part. And that is the mission,

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really. We want to categorize and understand

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the different flavors of fame found in this source

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material. The flavors of fame. Because when you

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look at the list as a whole, it stops being just

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a word and starts looking like. Like a map of

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human aspiration. Okay, so let's start at the

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very top. Where do we begin? The source gives

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us a definition to anchor us. It does. It says,

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fame usually refers to the state of notability

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or celebrity. Okay, that's the baseline. Simple

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enough. That is what you expect. It's the condition

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of being known. But immediately, and I love that

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this is the very first thing the source does,

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it points us to the etymology. Right, there's

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a see also link for theme. Theme. p -h -e -m

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-e so this isn't just a spelling variation this

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is the root this is the origin story it is it

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is the greek personification of fame and renown

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but theme wasn't just a goddess of you know being

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popular she was the personification of rumor

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of report of gossip she was the messenger of

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zeus oh okay if something happened theme was

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the force that carried the news it's a reminder

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that at its core fame isn't about being talented

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or being rich it's about being spoken of exactly

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it's about being a signal in the noise and as

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we go through this list i want you to keep that

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in mind Whether we're talking about a ship or

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a hip hop album. These are all just modern vessels

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for that ancient idea. There are things that

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want to be spoken of. And looking at our outline,

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the biggest, loudest, most leg warmer wearing

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vessel on this list is the franchise. The Fame

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franchise. You absolutely cannot discuss this

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word in the context of the 20th century without

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anchoring it in the 1980 American musical film,

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Fame. It's the Big Bang. The source lists it

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so simply. Fame. 1980 film, an American musical.

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But that description feels, I don't know, so

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dry for a movie that was so sweaty. It was incredibly

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sweaty. And gritty. Right. Directed by Alan Parker,

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this wasn't The Sound of Music. It was set in

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the High School of Performing Arts in New York

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City, and it dealt with heavy themes. Like what?

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Literacy struggles, abortion, sexual exploitation.

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It was pretty raw for a musical. But it gave

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us a thesis statement for the modern era of celebrity,

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didn't it? It did. Remember the quote from the

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dance teacher, Lydia Grant? You want fame? Well,

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fame costs. And right here is where you start

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paying. Yeah. In sweat. That line is iconic.

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It shifted the cultural perception of fame. How

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so? Before this, fame was often portrayed as

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this magical thing that just happened to you.

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You were discovered at a soda fountain, that

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kind of thing. Right, the old Hollywood myth.

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But fame, the movie. Made it transactional. It

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made it a job. You pay for it in sweat. And that

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message really, really resonated. Oh, absolutely.

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The source material shows us that this single

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film sparked a massive chain reaction. It wasn't

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just a standalone piece of art. It was a franchise

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in the truest sense. Exactly. Immediately following

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the film, the source lists the famed TV series.

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Running from 1982 to 1987. That's a five -year

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run. That's pretty significant. It is. And this

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is where the brand of fame really solidified.

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But the tone shifted, didn't it? Completely.

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The movie was R -rated, right? It was. The TV

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show was on network television in the mid -80s.

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They had to scrub away all that grit we were

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talking about. So it became lighter. Much lighter.

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More about the camaraderie of the students. It

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became family -friendly. And that's important,

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I guess, because it allowed the concept of fame

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to enter living rooms everywhere. Right. It wasn't

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a cautionary tale anymore. It was a weekly celebration

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of talent and hard work. And the expansion didn't

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stop at the screen. What came next? The Source

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Lists fame musical, The Stage Show, which premiered

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in 1988. So let's get this timeline straight.

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You have the movie in 80. The TV show starting

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in 82. And The Stage Musical in 88. Wow. They

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squeezed every possible dollar out of that IP

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in the 1980s. It's a perfect example of transmedia

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storytelling before we even had a term for it.

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But then looking at the timeline, it goes quiet

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for a bit. It does. The 90s happen. Grunge happens.

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The shiny optimism of fame kind of falls out

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of fashion. Until 2009. Until 2009. The remake.

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The sourceless fame 2009 film. And it's explicitly

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described as a remake of a musical film. It didn't

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quite hit the same way, did it? I feel like it

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came and went. It didn't. Not at all. And I think

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that speaks to how the definition of the word

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itself had changed in the, what, the intervening

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30 years? What do you mean? Well, in 1980, the

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idea of a school dedicated to performing arts

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was kind of exotic to the mainstream. Right.

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A special, unique place. By 2009, we were living

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in a post -American idol world. We had YouTube.

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The idea of kids wanting to be famous wasn't

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a story anymore. It was just the default setting

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of reality. Exactly. The premise wasn't special

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anymore. Which brings us to what I think is the

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most fascinating pivot on this list. I know what

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you're going to say. The source lists a 2003

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TV series called Fame. But this wasn't a drama.

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It wasn't actors pretending to be students. No.

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It was a reality show. A talent competition.

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That is the moment the snake ate its own tail.

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It really is. We went from a fictional representation

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of people seeking fame to a reality show where

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people actually sought fame using the brand name

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of the fiction. It's a meta commentary on the

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culture, isn't it? The fiction became the reality.

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And there's another one, too. The Irish version.

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The source also notes fame. The musical Irish

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TV series, which was another reality search.

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For actors to be in the stage show. So you have

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a reality show looking for actors to play fictional

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characters who want to be famous. The layers

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are just dizzying. It's unbelievable. But okay,

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before we leave the screen, we have to acknowledge

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that the 1980s didn't invent the word. No, not

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by a long shot. The source includes a vintage

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entry. Fame, 1936 film. A British comedy. And

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that genre tag comedy. is telling how so in the

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30s particularly in british cinema the pursuit

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of fame was often played for laughs it was seen

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as a bit pompous you know a bit ridiculous not

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the life or death struggle we saw in the 1980

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version not at all it shows that our modern reverence

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for this concept is a relatively recent invention

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and speaking of mocking the concept we have ricky

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gervais yes the source lists fame 2007 film which

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was a stand -up tour and dvd her vase is the

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perfect counterweight to the musical isn't he

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he is his entire career is built on deconstructing

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the ego of celebrity so for him to name a tour

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fame It's an act of irony. He's putting the word

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in scare quotes. He's saying, look at how ridiculous

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this all is. So on this one list, you have the

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earnest, sweaty striving of the musical. And

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the cynical, laughing deconstruction of the comedian.

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Two sides of the same coin. Now, I want to move

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to a pattern the source reveals about television.

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Specifically, episode titles. Ah, yes. It seems

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like fame is just a magnet for writers. If you

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have a show, eventually you write an episode

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called Fame. It's a universal trope. It's a shorthand

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for a certain kind of story. What kind of story?

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Well, the source lists a 2006 episode of Law

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&amp; Order. It lists a 2010 episode of NCIS. Los

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Angeles. The procedural dramas. Exactly. And

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in those contexts, fame usually equals danger.

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It's the motive for a murder or it's a celebrity

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stalker story. So it frames fame as a threat.

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A threat or a corruption. Something that brings

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out the worst in people. But then you have the

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entry that made you laugh out loud when we were

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prepping. Kokoio. The children's animated series.

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I just love seeing it on the list. You have Law

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&amp; Order, NCIS, and then... Pocoyo, fame, an episode

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of the TV series Pocoyo. It seems like an anomaly,

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right? It does. But think about it. Pocoyo is

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about early childhood development. It's about

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social dynamics for toddlers. And even at that

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age, the concept of being the center of attention

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is hugely relevant. Who is looking at me? Why

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are they looking at him and not me? Huh. I never

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thought of it that way. Fame isn't just a Hollywood

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industry. It's a fundamental human social dynamic.

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Whether you are a detective in L .A. or a toddler

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in a blue outfit, you have to deal with the consequences

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of renown. That is a surprisingly deep take on

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a toddler show. But I'm here for it. It all connects.

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So we've looked at the screen. But if the 1980

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movie is the visual anchor of this word, the

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auditory anchor has to be the music. Oh, for

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sure. The Sound of Fame section in our source

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is massive. Music and fame are inextricably linked.

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And we have to start with the 1975 entry. The

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song Fame. by David Bowie. A masterpiece. And

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the source makes a point of listing the writers,

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which is key. David Bowie, Carlos Alomar, and

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John Lennon. It's the holy trinity of 70s rock

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cool, but the context here is crucial. This song

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was released in 1975. Five years before the movie

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fame. Exactly. And the tone is completely different.

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It's dark, it's funky, but it's an angry song.

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It is pure venom. Bowie was in the middle of

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a messy management dispute. He was arguably the

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most famous rock star on the planet at that moment.

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And he hated it. And the lyrics show it. Absolutely.

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Fame makes a man take things over. Fame puts

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you there where things are hollow. It's an attack

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on the parasites, the managers, the emptiness

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of it all. And having John Lennon on backing

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vocals, a man who is literally trapped by his

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own fame. Yeah. That just adds this incredible

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weight to it. Exactly. So in 1975, the definition

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of fame in pop culture was cynical. It was a

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trap. But then, just five years later... We get

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the song Fame by Irene Cara from the movie. And

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the source knows it won the Academy Award for

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Best Original Song. A huge deal. I'm going to

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live forever. I'm going to learn how to fly.

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It is the polar opposite of the Bowie song. It's

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an anthem of pure, unadulterated optimism. It's

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joyful. It's energetic. So within a five -year

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window, the word fame meant two completely different

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things on the radio. Completely. It was a curse

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for Bowie and a blessing for Irene Cara. But

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the music section doesn't stop in the 80s. And

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this is where the disambiguation page becomes

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a timeline of style. I noticed a shift in how

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the word is actually written. You mean the acronyms?

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The dots. All the periods. The source lists a

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song by Young Jeezy called F .A .M .E. And Chris

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Brown's album F .A .M .E. from 2011. And Maluma's

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album F .A .M .E. from 2018. What's that about?

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This is a distinct modern trend, particularly

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in hip -hop and Latin pop. It seems that simply

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calling your album fame feels a bit... or maybe

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too generic now. So by turning it into an acronym,

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you add a layer of code. You make it personal.

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For Chris Brown, I think it stood for forgiving

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all my enemies and fans are my everything. Right.

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So he's taking the word fame, which carries all

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that baggage we just talked about, and he's redefining

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it on his own terms. He's reclaiming the narrative.

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It's not just being known. It's a specific philosophy

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he's outlining. And the list shows this trend

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is still going. We have a 2020 song, F -A -M

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-E, by Hooligan Hefs. Australian drill music

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featuring Hooks, Hooligan Skinny, and Massey

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Rook, which just shows the global reach of the

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concept. And we have a song, Fame, by B .O .B.

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We have a song, Fame by Cypher, from their 2022

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EP, The Code. And this is one of my favorite

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things about using a live source like this. We

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have a future entry. I saw that. The source lists

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Fame, Rise song from a 2025 single album. Rise

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is a K -pop group. So this is still happening.

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It tells us that even in 2025, on the other side

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of the world, from that 1980 New York film set,

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artists are still looking at this four -letter

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English word and saying, yes, that is the title.

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That is the energy we want. It is remarkably

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durable. It is. And we can't talk about durability

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without talking about the albums. We've mentioned

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Chris Brown and Maluma. But there is one entry

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that feels like the definitive modern usage.

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It has to be Lady Gaga, The Fame. Her 2008 debut

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album. Talk about truth in advertising. Right.

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She called her debut album The Fame, and then

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she became arguably the most famous woman on

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Earth. It was a manifesto. Gaga approached fame

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as a sociologist. She studied it. She treated

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her own celebrity as performance art. She famously

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said she felt famous before anyone knew who she

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was. Right. By naming the album The Fame, she

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was casting a spell. She was inviting it in,

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manifesting it. It's almost like she looked at

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the cynical Bowie song and said, I know it's

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toxic and I'm going to wear that toxicity like

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a dress. Precisely. And the source also points

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out a precursor to her, someone who did something

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similar. Grace Jones, her 1978 album Fame. Grace

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Jones and Lady Gaga. that tracks it does both

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are avant -garde both are fashion icons both

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play with the idea of what a star looks like

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and acts like they use the word fame not just

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as a title but as a challenge to the audience

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okay before we move on i have to shout out the

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bands there's a duo just called fame there's

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a thai band called fame but the one that stands

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out to you is the person it is georgie fame Clive

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Powell, born in 1943, an English R &amp;B and jazz

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musician. He didn't write a song called Fame.

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He didn't release an album called Fame. He changed

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his name to Fame. It's the ultimate commitment.

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In the early 60s, managers often gave their artists

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these flashy names. Billy Fury, Marty Wild. And

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Clive Powell became Georgie Fame. He literally

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adopted the concept as his identity. And he's

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still performing. He has lived as Fame. for over

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60 years. That's incredible. Okay, so we've done

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the red carpet, we've done the charts, we've

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covered what people expect when they hear this

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word. Now? Now we are going to pivot. We are

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going to leave the studio and enter the laboratory.

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This is the section of the source material that

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deals with acronyms, but not the Chris Brown

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kind. These are the functional, nerdy, hidden

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acronyms. This is my favorite part, because when

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you strip away the glitter, F -A -M -E is just

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four letters. And scientists love an acronym.

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They certainly do. The first one on the list

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is fatty acid methyl esters. Fatty acid methyl

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esters. Fame. I just love the image of a serious

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chemist in a white coat saying, I need to analyze

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this fame. And they're holding a beaker of sludge.

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It's not quite sludge. What is it exactly? It's

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actually very, very important. Fame is the primary

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component of biodiesel. Biodiesel. So fuel. Yes.

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If you take vegetable oil or animal fats and

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you want to run a diesel engine on them, you

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have to change their chemical structure so they

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don't clog the engine. You put them through a

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process called transesterification. The result

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is fatty acid methyl esters. Fame. So while Lady

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Gaga is singing about the fame, there are trucks

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driving down the highway literally powered by

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fame. It's a great juxtaposition. One is ephemeral

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and social. The other is industrial and combustible.

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And that's not its only use, right? No, it's

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also used to analyze the purity of olive oil.

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If you want to know if your extra virgin olive

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oil is real, you check the FAME profile. From

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olive oil to Wall Street, the source lists FAME

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database. Forecasting Analysis and Modeling Environment.

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What does that do? It's a database management

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system and a programming language. It's used

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primarily in the financial and energy sectors

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to handle time series data. Time series data?

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What's that? Imagine you need to track the price

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of oil every minute for 20 years. That's a lot

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of data points, all in a specific order. FAME

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is the tool you use to store and model that.

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So again, totally utilitarian. It's about prediction

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and analysis, not popularity. Not at all. But

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then we have an acronym that breaks my heart

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a little bit. The Space Sentry. Ah, yes. The

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Full Sky Astrometric Mapping Explorer. That is

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such a majestic name. The Full Sky Astrometric

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Mapping Explorer. Fame. It was a NASA mission.

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The goal was astrometry, which is measuring the

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positions and movements of stars with incredible

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precision. So they were making a map. The best

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map ever. They wanted to map 40 million stars.

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They wanted to create a map of our corner of

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the galaxy that was more accurate than anything

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in history. And what happened? The source notes

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it was canceled in 2002. Why? Budget constraints.

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It's poetic, in a sad way. A satellite named

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Fame that never made it to the launch pad. It

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wanted to see everything, to map the heavens,

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but it got grounded. It's a what -if of space

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history. It fits the theme, though. Fame is often

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elusive. Even for satellites. Now, from the tragic

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to the absolutely delightful, let's talk about

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the organizations. Specifically, the one for

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the kids. You must mean the future American magical

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entertainers. Yes. F -A -M -E. Future American

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Magical Entertainers. A former magic club for

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young magicians. It's so charming. Just picture

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it. A basement or a community center somewhere.

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A group of teenagers with decks of cards and

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silk handkerchiefs practicing their sleight of

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hand. And calling themselves fame. It's a bit

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on the nose. It is, but look at the first word.

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Future. It speaks to that aspiration again. Right.

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They aren't famous yet. They are the future entertainers.

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They are practicing the art of illusion to get

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there. It's very literal. Show business is magic,

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and they are learning the tricks. The list of

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organizations really shows how everyone wants

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a piece of this acronym. We have Fashion Malawi

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Edition. Which is a development organization

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in Malawi using the acronym to promote African

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fashion design, bringing the concept to a completely

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different geography and context. And we have

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the Federation of Archaeological Managers and

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Employers. Founded in 1975. I love the date.

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1975, that's the same year Bowie released his

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song. So while Bowie was singing about the hollowness

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of fame. A group of British archaeologists were

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sitting in a room deciding to call their union

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fame. The disconnect is wonderful. Welcome to

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the meeting of fame. Agenda item one, dirt removal.

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It just highlights the utility of the acronym.

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You have federation, archaeological, managers,

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employers. If you string them together, you get

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a pronounceable word. It's branding. Exactly.

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Even for archaeologists, having a catchy acronym

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confers a sense of legitimacy and importance.

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And that applies to sports too, right? Falk Associates

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Management Enterprises. Founded by David Falk

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in 1992, he was a titan of the industry. He was

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Michael Jordan's agent. If anyone understood

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the value of fame, it was him. So naming his

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company Fame was a power move. It's an assertion

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of dominance in his field. We should acknowledge

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the source also lists the fans of adult media

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and entertainment awards. Which fits the pattern

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perfectly. Adult media and entertainment, even

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in that industry, perhaps especially in that

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industry, there's a desire for awards, for recognition,

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for a structure of fame. Okay, let's move from

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the acronyms back to the written word. We have

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a section on novels, and it seems like fame is

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a very popular title for a book. It is. It's

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punchy. It's evocative. If you see a book on

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a shelf called Fame, you immediately have questions.

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Is it a romance? A thriller? A satire? The source

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lists a whole cluster of them. A 2005 novel by

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Karen Kingsbury. A 2008 novel by Mark Rowlands.

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A 2011 novel by Tilly Bagshaw. And a 2009 novel

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by Daniel Kilman. The source notes the original

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German title was Ruhm. Which translates to Fame.

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Right. And what's interesting here is the timing.

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2005, 2008, 2009, 2011. This is the same era

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as the Lady Gaga album. And the peak of the reality

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TV boom. Exactly. It seems like writers in the

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mid -2000s were collectively trying to process

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this cultural shift. That makes perfect sense.

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Reality TV changed the rules and made fame seem

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accessible to everyone, for good or ill. And

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fiction writers had to step in and say, okay,

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but what does that do to us as a society? Right.

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Killman's book, for example, is a series of interconnected

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stories about how technology and celebrity disconnect

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us from reality. It explores the consequences.

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When everyone has a screen and everyone wants

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to be on the screen, what happens to human connection?

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A question we're still asking. We are. The source

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also mentions a periodical. Fame. Magazine. Described

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as an American celebrity monthly that ran from

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1988 to 1991. Short life. Just three years. But

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look at the dates. It launched in 88, the peak

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of the fame franchise era. Peak 80s excess. But

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it folded in 91. Why do you think that is? 1991?

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That's the year Nirvana released. Never mind.

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Exactly. The culture shifted on a dime. The glossy,

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high -hair, shoulder pad aesthetic of the 80s

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crashed. Grunge took over. Irony took over. And

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a magazine explicitly celebrating the glitz of

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fame probably felt suddenly very, very uncool.

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It's a great reminder that the word itself, the

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concept, goes in and out of style. It does. Now,

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we've talked about ideas, songs, books, and chemical

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compounds, but fame is also a place on a map.

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Geography is always the most grounding part of

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these deep dives, I find. Me too. The source

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lists two specific locations in the United States.

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Fame, Mississippi, And Fane, West Virginia. And

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both of them are listed as unincorporated communities.

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Which is a polite way of saying very small. Very

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small. No mayor, no city council, just a cluster

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of houses and a zip code. There is something

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so wonderfully ironic about a tiny, quiet crossroads

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in rural Mississippi being named Fane. It's the

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exact opposite of the definition we started with.

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Right. It's not notable. It's not celebrated

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globally. It's just home for a few people. It

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makes you wonder about the founders, doesn't

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it? Why name it Fame? Was it aspirational? Did

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they think a railroad was coming through? Or

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was it named after a person? We'll probably never

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know. Whatever the reason, today it stands as

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a quiet counterpoint. You can go to Fame, Mississippi,

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and I guarantee you won't find any paparazzi.

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You'll find silence. And then we leave the land

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and go to the sea. The source lists HMS Fame.

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And not just one. The source notes numerous ships

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of the Royal Navy. And Fame. Yeah. Numerous merchant

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ships. This is where the history of the word

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really shines. Long before David Bowie, long

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before cameras, the British Royal Navy was naming

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warships fame. And this goes back to Femme, the

00:23:41.819 --> 00:23:43.759
goddess we talked about at the start. It changes

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the context completely. A warship named Fame

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isn't about being liked on Instagram. No, it's

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about glory. It's about reputation in battle.

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Precisely. A ship named Fame projects power.

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It says, our reputation precedes us. You have

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heard of us, and you should be afraid. There

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is a lineage of ships carrying that name across

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centuries of naval warfare. So it connects the

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word to national pride and military might. Which

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is a very different flavor than celebrity. Speaking

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of history and memory, there was one more physical

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object on our list that carries a significant

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amount of weight. The monument. Yes. The source

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lists Fame Confederate Monument or Gloria Victus.

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It's a memorial in Salisbury, North Carolina.

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This brings a somber historical tone to the discussion.

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Here, fame isn't about entertainment at all.

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No, it's about memorializing a conflict. Gloria

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Victus translates to glory to the vanquished.

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And the statue itself. It represents the concept

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of fame holding a laurel wreath over a dying

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soldier. It serves as a reminder that this word

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has been used to shape historical narratives.

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So monuments are attempts to make a specific

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version of history famous or permanent. That's

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a good way to put it. It really shows that this

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word isn't neutral. It can be used for pop songs,

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but it can also be used for political statements

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and historical memory. It's a tool. Absolutely.

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Fame is a spotlight. And whoever builds the monument

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or writes the song or names the ship gets to

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decide where to point that spotlight. Okay. We

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have traveled from Mississippi to the Royal Navy

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to North Carolina. Let's bring it back to something

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a bit more consumable. I think I know where you're

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going. The final category in our source is consumer

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goods. And we return to the queen of the concept.

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Lady Gaga. Again. The source lists Lady Gaga

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fame, a fragrance for women endorsed by Lady

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Gaga. This feels like the full circle moment

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we talked about. We talked about her album, The

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Fame. We talked about her song, The Fame. And

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now she has bottled it. She literally sold fame

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as a perfume. It is the ultimate commodification.

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But do you know the detail about the fluid itself?

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It's not in the source list, but it's a famous

00:25:49.150 --> 00:25:52.049
detail about this product. Now what? The perfume

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liquid was black. Black in the bottle? Yes. It

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was the first black eau de parfum. It sprays

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black, but it dries clear on the skin. That is

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incredibly on brand for her. It was designed

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to represent the dark heart of fame. It looks

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destructive. It looks like an oil slick, but

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then it disappears. Wow. It perfectly encapsulates

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the journey of the word in the 21st century.

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Fame is a product. It's a chemical simulation.

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It's something you buy at a department store.

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It's brilliant branding. And it ties everything

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together. The list starts with a definition of

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notability, goes through movies, music, science,

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geography. And ends with a bottle of black perfume.

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It's a comprehensive ecosystem. It really is.

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So let's try to recap this journey. When we started,

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fame was just a word. Now, now it's a jazz musician

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from 1943 named Georgie who changed his name

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to fit the times. It's a canceled satellite that

00:26:47.160 --> 00:26:49.359
wanted to map 40 million stars but ran out of

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money. It's a magic club for kids practicing

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illusions in a basement. It's a chemical compound

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used in biodiesel to run our engines. And yes,

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it is a Lady Gaga empire. It's amazing how a

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simple disambiguation page can reveal so much

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about how we think as a culture. We use this

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one word to label our biggest dreams. Whether

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that's a platinum album or a successful harvest

00:27:12.880 --> 00:27:16.079
of fatty acids. That's the takeaway for me. While

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we usually define fame as being known, the source

00:27:19.359 --> 00:27:21.740
list proves that the word is often used as an

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aspiration. That's it. It's a label for things

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that want to be important. That small town in

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Mississippi named itself fame because it hoped

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to be something. That debut album named itself

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fame. That satellite was named fame. They're

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all reaching for something. It's a badge of hope.

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Exactly. It's the human condition of wanting

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to matter, distilled into four letters. And I

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want to leave our listeners with one final thought,

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something to chew on. We mentioned theme at the

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beginning. The ancient personification of renown.

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The root of it all. In a way, every single thing

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on this list, every ship, every album, every

00:27:53.990 --> 00:27:57.029
magic club, is just a modern shrine to that ancient

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idea. We haven't stopped worshipping theme. We

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just changed the rituals. Instead of building

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temples, we film reality shows and launch perfumes.

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But the desire, the desire to be spoken of, is

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exactly the same. That is a powerful thought.

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The medium changes, but the human drive for renown

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is constant. Thank you so much for joining us

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on this deep dive into the dictionary. Who knew

00:28:20.130 --> 00:28:22.269
four letters could hold so much world? It was

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a pleasure to explore it. We'll see you next

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time on The Deep Dive. Keep learning.
