WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:02.419 Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today, we are 00:00:02.419 --> 00:00:05.480 opening a file that is, quite honestly, one of 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.880 the most baffling, disturbing, and frankly, pentadoxical 00:00:08.880 --> 00:00:11.599 puzzles in the entire history of modern religion. 00:00:11.820 --> 00:00:14.380 It really is. We are looking at the order of 00:00:14.380 --> 00:00:16.339 the solar temple, often just referred to as the 00:00:16.339 --> 00:00:20.120 OTS. And before we even get into the timeline 00:00:20.120 --> 00:00:22.960 or the specific beliefs, I have to ask you to 00:00:22.960 --> 00:00:25.500 do something for me. I want you to take the standard 00:00:25.500 --> 00:00:27.280 image you have in your head when you hear the 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:29.679 word cult, and I want you to completely erase 00:00:29.679 --> 00:00:32.740 it. That is the absolute necessary first step 00:00:32.740 --> 00:00:35.140 for this specific topic. I mean, usually when 00:00:35.140 --> 00:00:37.820 we discuss high control groups or catastrophic 00:00:37.820 --> 00:00:41.479 new religious movements, the stereotype is immediate. 00:00:41.719 --> 00:00:43.579 Oh, yeah. You know exactly what it is. You picture 00:00:43.579 --> 00:00:46.119 the vulnerable, the socially isolated, maybe 00:00:46.119 --> 00:00:48.600 drifters or young people looking for a place 00:00:48.600 --> 00:00:50.679 to belong because, you know, they have nowhere 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:52.579 else to go. Right. You picture a commune out 00:00:52.579 --> 00:00:54.619 in the desert somewhere, people maybe wearing 00:00:54.619 --> 00:00:57.000 burlap sacks, living completely off the grid. 00:00:57.280 --> 00:00:58.979 Exactly. You think of people who have sort of 00:00:58.979 --> 00:01:02.700 dropped out of society. Right. But the order 00:01:02.700 --> 00:01:05.519 of the solar temple. That is a completely different 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.760 beast. A whole different beast. We're talking 00:01:07.760 --> 00:01:09.480 about what some researchers call the paradox 00:01:09.480 --> 00:01:12.200 of profile here. When investigators started digging 00:01:12.200 --> 00:01:15.400 into who these people were after the tragedies, 00:01:15.400 --> 00:01:18.719 which, believe me, we will get to, they didn't 00:01:18.719 --> 00:01:21.439 find dropouts. No. They found the elite. They 00:01:21.439 --> 00:01:24.060 found the people who were running society not 00:01:24.060 --> 00:01:26.760 running away from it. It's the defining contradiction 00:01:26.760 --> 00:01:29.780 of the OTS, and it's what makes this story so, 00:01:29.879 --> 00:01:33.799 so chilling. We aren't talking about lost souls 00:01:33.799 --> 00:01:36.140 on the fringes. Not at all. So who are we talking 00:01:36.140 --> 00:01:38.040 about then? We're looking at people like Robert 00:01:38.040 --> 00:01:40.640 Osteguy, who was the sitting mayor of the town 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:43.159 of Richelieu in Quebec. A sitting mayor. A mayor. 00:01:43.280 --> 00:01:45.879 We're looking at Jocelyn Grandmaison, a journalist 00:01:45.879 --> 00:01:48.799 for Le Journal de Quebec, a woman whose entire 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:52.200 job was to ask hard questions and be skeptical. 00:01:52.439 --> 00:01:54.579 And it doesn't stop there. Not even close. We're 00:01:54.579 --> 00:01:56.719 talking about Camille Pillay, who was a sales 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:59.180 director for Piaget Watches. The luxury watch 00:01:59.180 --> 00:02:01.750 brand. The luxury watch brand. I mean, a man 00:02:01.750 --> 00:02:05.010 deeply embedded in the corporate world of, you 00:02:05.010 --> 00:02:08.569 know, luxury and precision. These are successful, 00:02:08.830 --> 00:02:11.590 educated, wealthy people. And I think the one 00:02:11.590 --> 00:02:13.110 that always gets me is the connection to the 00:02:13.110 --> 00:02:16.090 Olympics. The family of an Olympic gold medalist, 00:02:16.129 --> 00:02:18.949 John Voirne, the skier who launched that massive 00:02:18.949 --> 00:02:20.949 sunglasses brand. Everybody knows the sunglasses. 00:02:20.949 --> 00:02:23.800 Exactly. His wife and son were... deeply, deeply 00:02:23.800 --> 00:02:26.500 involved. And that right there, that's the hook 00:02:26.500 --> 00:02:29.599 that just grabs you immediately. How does a mayor, 00:02:29.699 --> 00:02:31.939 a journalist, a luxury watch executive end up 00:02:31.939 --> 00:02:34.060 in a group that believes they are reincarnated 00:02:34.060 --> 00:02:37.020 Knights Templar preparing to catch a UFO to the 00:02:37.020 --> 00:02:39.520 star Sirius? That is the mission of this deep 00:02:39.520 --> 00:02:41.699 dive today. That's what we have to unpack. How 00:02:41.699 --> 00:02:44.699 this bizarre cocktail of Templar mythology, UFO 00:02:44.699 --> 00:02:47.780 religion and and New Age philosophy didn't just 00:02:47.780 --> 00:02:50.219 result in a few weird meetings in a basement 00:02:50.219 --> 00:02:52.949 somewhere. No, it led to the deaths of. 74 people 00:02:52.949 --> 00:02:56.150 across three countries. 74 people. It's a dark 00:02:56.150 --> 00:02:59.110 journey for sure. But we have a really detailed 00:02:59.110 --> 00:03:01.629 historical overview to work through. We're going 00:03:01.629 --> 00:03:03.610 to look at the group's classification, their 00:03:03.610 --> 00:03:05.830 incredibly complex organizational structure, 00:03:06.030 --> 00:03:09.389 their, well, their syncretic beliefs, and the 00:03:09.389 --> 00:03:12.250 timeline that led to their tragic end in the 00:03:12.250 --> 00:03:14.710 mid -90s. So let's start where all these stories 00:03:14.710 --> 00:03:17.699 inevitably start. The architects, the people 00:03:17.699 --> 00:03:20.099 who built this machine from the ground up. It 00:03:20.099 --> 00:03:23.099 seems like the OTS had a classic dynamic at the 00:03:23.099 --> 00:03:25.280 top, Adiro. You had the face and you had the 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:27.819 brain. Let's talk about the brain first. Joseph 00:03:27.819 --> 00:03:30.259 de Mambro. Joseph de Mambro is absolutely the 00:03:30.259 --> 00:03:32.219 man behind the curtain. He was born in France, 00:03:32.319 --> 00:03:35.620 a jeweler by trade, which is a detail that actually 00:03:35.620 --> 00:03:37.560 matters a lot later when we talk about the visuals 00:03:37.560 --> 00:03:39.080 of the group. The aesthetics. The whole aesthetic, 00:03:39.240 --> 00:03:41.939 yes. But his real resume, his real background 00:03:41.939 --> 00:03:44.969 was in the world of esotericism. And it must 00:03:44.969 --> 00:03:46.949 be said, fraud. Okay, so not just a spiritual 00:03:46.949 --> 00:03:50.270 seeker, actual fraud. Oh, yeah. Before the OTS 00:03:50.270 --> 00:03:53.110 really got going, he had a history, a criminal 00:03:53.110 --> 00:03:55.590 history. In the early 70s, he actually served 00:03:55.590 --> 00:03:58.110 prison time, I think it was six months, for writing 00:03:58.110 --> 00:04:00.090 bad checks. All right, so that's a red flag. 00:04:00.150 --> 00:04:03.669 A big one. And interestingly, he was also convicted 00:04:03.669 --> 00:04:06.009 for impersonating a psychologist. Wait, wait. 00:04:06.189 --> 00:04:08.969 Impersonating a psychologist, that feels like 00:04:08.969 --> 00:04:12.069 a major, major red flag for someone who eventually 00:04:12.069 --> 00:04:14.389 ends up... leading a group where he controls 00:04:14.389 --> 00:04:16.290 people's minds. It's almost like he was practicing. 00:04:16.310 --> 00:04:19.870 It certainly speaks to a desire to have authority 00:04:19.870 --> 00:04:23.370 over the human psyche, right? He wanted the power 00:04:23.370 --> 00:04:26.370 of that doctor -patient relationship, but without, 00:04:26.490 --> 00:04:29.470 you know, the degree or the ethics. So this is 00:04:29.470 --> 00:04:31.689 the guy pulling the strings. He was the absolute 00:04:31.689 --> 00:04:34.519 authority within the order. But he wasn't necessarily 00:04:34.519 --> 00:04:36.180 the one on the stage holding the microphone. 00:04:36.420 --> 00:04:39.639 He managed the experience. He was the director 00:04:39.639 --> 00:04:42.519 and the stories he told about himself. Let me 00:04:42.519 --> 00:04:45.180 guess. He had some impressive past lives. The 00:04:45.180 --> 00:04:47.660 best. He claimed to have had incredible past 00:04:47.660 --> 00:04:50.060 lives. He told members he had been an Egyptian 00:04:50.060 --> 00:04:52.240 pharaoh. He had been Moses. He was a member of 00:04:52.240 --> 00:04:54.660 the Twelve Disciples. He positioned himself as 00:04:54.660 --> 00:04:57.220 the sole connection to the divine, the channel 00:04:57.220 --> 00:04:59.259 through which these beings he called the masters 00:04:59.259 --> 00:05:02.079 spoke. But a guy like DiMombro, you said he was 00:05:02.079 --> 00:05:04.339 a bit older, not exactly a charismatic movie 00:05:04.339 --> 00:05:07.660 star type, and he's got a criminal record for 00:05:07.660 --> 00:05:11.540 fraud. He might have trouble recruiting the beautiful 00:05:11.540 --> 00:05:13.420 people, the wealthy elite on his own. Right. 00:05:13.519 --> 00:05:17.420 He lacked that immediate magnetic charm. He needed 00:05:17.420 --> 00:05:19.379 a salesman. And that's where Luke Ture comes 00:05:19.379 --> 00:05:22.980 in. Precisely. Luke Ture was the front man. He 00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:25.759 was Belgian. A trained physician, specifically 00:05:25.759 --> 00:05:28.639 a homeopath. He was younger. He was charismatic. 00:05:28.860 --> 00:05:31.139 He was good looking. He made his living lecturing 00:05:31.139 --> 00:05:33.439 on alternative medicine, ecology, spirituality. 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:36.220 He could walk into a room and just command it. 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:38.120 He had that shimmer. He had the shimmer that 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.459 DeMombro lacked. Absolutely. So it's the perfect 00:05:40.459 --> 00:05:43.480 and ultimately deadly partnership. How did they 00:05:43.480 --> 00:05:46.740 actually connect? How did they meet? It happened 00:05:46.740 --> 00:05:49.860 around 1981. Geray was invited to speak at a 00:05:49.860 --> 00:05:51.819 foundation that DeMombro had already set up. 00:05:52.040 --> 00:05:54.480 a group called the Golden Way Foundation. And 00:05:54.480 --> 00:05:57.899 Dumombro sat there in the audience, and he watched 00:05:57.899 --> 00:06:01.319 this young doctor speak, saw how he just captivated 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:03.839 the crowd with all this talk of holistic health 00:06:03.839 --> 00:06:06.079 and spiritual energy, and you can almost see 00:06:06.079 --> 00:06:09.019 the light bulb go off. He realized, this is the 00:06:09.019 --> 00:06:11.279 voice I need. So he just recruits him on the 00:06:11.279 --> 00:06:13.579 spot. Pretty much. He was so impressed by his 00:06:13.579 --> 00:06:17.620 lecture, and they formed this symbiosis. Jure 00:06:17.620 --> 00:06:20.680 became... the recruiter, the propagandist who 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:23.540 could bring people in to the soft entry points 00:06:23.540 --> 00:06:26.339 of health and ecology. While DeMombro pulled 00:06:26.339 --> 00:06:28.860 the strings from the shadows. Exactly. So Jure 00:06:28.860 --> 00:06:31.519 is the bait. He's out there talking about homeopathy 00:06:31.519 --> 00:06:33.300 and saving the environment. And people think 00:06:33.300 --> 00:06:35.199 this guy makes sense. He's a doctor. He's articulate. 00:06:35.379 --> 00:06:37.579 But once they're in, they get funneled into something 00:06:37.579 --> 00:06:40.410 much, much deeper. That's the system. Let's talk 00:06:40.410 --> 00:06:42.149 about the structure they built, because it wasn't 00:06:42.149 --> 00:06:44.250 just sign up and you're in the cult. It was designed 00:06:44.250 --> 00:06:46.790 like a maze. It was layered. Deeply layered. 00:06:47.430 --> 00:06:49.810 Scholars have compared their structure to a Chinese 00:06:49.810 --> 00:06:52.110 box, you know, boxes within boxes within boxes. 00:06:52.389 --> 00:06:55.550 It was designed as a filter to slowly indoctrinate 00:06:55.550 --> 00:06:58.370 members. So what's the outer box, the one everyone 00:06:58.370 --> 00:07:00.790 can see? At the outer layer, you had the public 00:07:00.790 --> 00:07:03.689 face. These were clubs like the Amenta Club or 00:07:03.689 --> 00:07:05.930 the Atlanta Club. If you went to one of their 00:07:05.930 --> 00:07:09.110 meetings, you'd hear Jure lecturing on naturopathy. 00:07:10.030 --> 00:07:12.689 organic gardening, maybe some light spiritual 00:07:12.689 --> 00:07:16.490 ideas about the coming age of Aquarius. So very 00:07:16.490 --> 00:07:18.889 approachable stuff, stuff you'd see in any new 00:07:18.889 --> 00:07:21.269 age bookstore in the 80s. Very approachable, 00:07:21.329 --> 00:07:24.230 very 1980s new age. You could go there and just 00:07:24.230 --> 00:07:26.470 learn about eating better and feel good about 00:07:26.470 --> 00:07:29.189 yourself. No commitment. OK, so you go for the 00:07:29.189 --> 00:07:31.389 organic gardening tips, but then maybe you show 00:07:31.389 --> 00:07:33.509 a little more interest or maybe, and I'm guessing 00:07:33.509 --> 00:07:35.250 this is more important, you show that you have 00:07:35.250 --> 00:07:38.230 money. What's the next box? That's the key. If 00:07:38.230 --> 00:07:40.860 you seemed receptive. And specifically, if you 00:07:40.860 --> 00:07:43.399 had the right financial profile, you might be 00:07:43.399 --> 00:07:46.339 invited to the archadia clubs. This was the middle 00:07:46.339 --> 00:07:48.579 layer. And things get more serious here. Much 00:07:48.579 --> 00:07:50.959 more serious. It was more secretive, more ritualistic. 00:07:51.399 --> 00:07:54.360 Here, the talk shifted from ecology to esotericism. 00:07:54.779 --> 00:07:56.639 You weren't just saving the earth anymore. You're 00:07:56.639 --> 00:07:59.160 learning about hidden knowledge, secret histories. 00:07:59.600 --> 00:08:02.639 And if you pass the test there, if you show loyalty 00:08:02.639 --> 00:08:06.480 and obedience. Then you might eventually reach 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:08.980 the inner core. The Order of the Solar Temple 00:08:08.980 --> 00:08:11.139 itself. And this is where the Neo -Templar thing 00:08:11.139 --> 00:08:13.699 comes in, right? Because Solar Temple implies 00:08:13.699 --> 00:08:16.699 a connection to the Knights Templar. For those 00:08:16.699 --> 00:08:18.680 who might be a bit rusty on their medieval history, 00:08:18.920 --> 00:08:21.180 the original Knights Templar were those crusading 00:08:21.180 --> 00:08:24.060 warrior monks who got, you know, famously dissolved 00:08:24.060 --> 00:08:26.860 and burned at the stake in the 1300s. Right. 00:08:26.939 --> 00:08:29.300 Why did this group in the 1980s think they were 00:08:29.300 --> 00:08:31.420 them? This is a crucial part of their mythology. 00:08:31.819 --> 00:08:35.120 There is a whole subculture, really, called Neo 00:08:35.120 --> 00:08:37.620 -Templarism. It's made up of groups that claim 00:08:37.620 --> 00:08:41.139 a secret, unbroken lineage going all the way 00:08:41.139 --> 00:08:43.860 back to Jacques de Molay, the last grandmaster 00:08:43.860 --> 00:08:46.600 of the Templars who was burned in 1314. So the 00:08:46.600 --> 00:08:49.259 idea is the Templars never really died out. Exactly. 00:08:49.299 --> 00:08:51.879 The OTS claimed that the order didn't actually 00:08:51.879 --> 00:08:54.539 die, but that it went underground and that they 00:08:54.539 --> 00:08:57.740 were the continuation of that true lineage. DiMambro 00:08:57.740 --> 00:09:00.120 and Giray tapped into this pre -existing world 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.720 of people who were already fascinated by this 00:09:02.720 --> 00:09:05.610 romantic, persecuted history. It's a really powerful 00:09:05.610 --> 00:09:07.950 narrative, isn't it? It tells the member, you 00:09:07.950 --> 00:09:10.570 aren't just a dentist from Geneva, you are a 00:09:10.570 --> 00:09:13.909 knight. You are part of an ancient, secret history. 00:09:14.289 --> 00:09:17.149 It absolutely is. It appeals to a desire for 00:09:17.149 --> 00:09:20.809 nobility and secret importance. And in fact, 00:09:21.009 --> 00:09:23.649 the OTS was formed partly out of a schism from 00:09:23.649 --> 00:09:25.769 another group called the Renewed Order of the 00:09:25.769 --> 00:09:29.009 Temple, or OT. They basically positioned themselves 00:09:29.009 --> 00:09:32.470 as the true revival, the real deal. So they're 00:09:32.470 --> 00:09:34.830 taking this romantic idea of being a knight, 00:09:34.909 --> 00:09:36.769 a guardian of secret knowledge, and they're mixing 00:09:36.769 --> 00:09:39.389 it with, well, everything else. Let's move into 00:09:39.389 --> 00:09:42.509 section two and look at this belief cocktail 00:09:42.509 --> 00:09:45.490 because it is wild. It's not just Templars. No. 00:09:45.610 --> 00:09:49.090 It's Templars in space. It is an incredibly syncretic 00:09:49.090 --> 00:09:52.389 mix. And syncretic just means they combined disparate 00:09:52.389 --> 00:09:54.070 elements from all these different religions and 00:09:54.070 --> 00:09:55.909 philosophies. You have the Templar tradition. 00:09:56.049 --> 00:09:58.009 Yes, that's the foundation. But then they start 00:09:58.009 --> 00:10:00.980 layering things on top. Right. You also have 00:10:00.980 --> 00:10:03.240 Rosicrucianism, which is another mystical secret 00:10:03.240 --> 00:10:05.960 society tradition involving alchemy and spiritual 00:10:05.960 --> 00:10:08.820 transformation. You have Theosophy, which is 00:10:08.820 --> 00:10:10.240 where they get the idea of ascended masters, 00:10:10.460 --> 00:10:13.019 these spiritual beings who guide humanity from 00:10:13.019 --> 00:10:14.879 behind the scenes. And then you layer on top 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:17.779 of all of that a heavy dose of UFO religion. 00:10:17.940 --> 00:10:21.799 A very heavy dose. The UFO part is where it really 00:10:21.799 --> 00:10:24.820 veers off the medieval path. They believe these 00:10:24.820 --> 00:10:27.419 ascended masters weren't just spirits, but they 00:10:27.419 --> 00:10:29.980 had a specific address. a physical location. 00:10:30.320 --> 00:10:32.639 And that address was? They believed the ascended 00:10:32.639 --> 00:10:35.840 masters resided on the star Sirius. This is absolutely 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:38.440 central to their theology. They believed that 00:10:38.440 --> 00:10:40.600 the solar temple members were solar templars. 00:10:40.779 --> 00:10:43.340 They weren't just regular people. They were souls 00:10:43.340 --> 00:10:45.340 that had been awakened to their true nature. 00:10:45.639 --> 00:10:48.759 And often, that nature was linked to reincarnation. 00:10:49.239 --> 00:10:51.480 Reincarnation was a huge tool for de Mambro, 00:10:51.500 --> 00:10:53.500 wasn't it? It wasn't just, oh, you lived before. 00:10:53.639 --> 00:10:55.679 It was you were someone famous and important 00:10:55.679 --> 00:10:58.240 before. It was a primary control mechanism. Absolutely. 00:10:58.460 --> 00:11:01.019 De Mambro would reveal to members who they were 00:11:01.019 --> 00:11:03.320 in a past life. And, of course, de Mambro himself 00:11:03.320 --> 00:11:06.480 had the best resume. As you said, Moses, a pharaoh. 00:11:06.659 --> 00:11:09.919 Right. And Jure, the front man, he was identified 00:11:09.919 --> 00:11:12.580 as Bernard of Clairvaux, who was the founder 00:11:12.580 --> 00:11:15.649 of the original Templar order. But for the members, 00:11:15.909 --> 00:11:18.470 these past life identities gave them a sense 00:11:18.470 --> 00:11:21.169 of cosmic importance. I mean, think about it. 00:11:21.690 --> 00:11:24.289 If you are told you are a knight who was burned 00:11:24.289 --> 00:11:26.570 at the stake for the cause in the 14th century, 00:11:26.750 --> 00:11:29.370 you feel a massive obligation to the group in 00:11:29.370 --> 00:11:31.909 the 20th century. It creates a debt you can never 00:11:31.909 --> 00:11:35.309 repay. A debt and a sense of destiny. You aren't 00:11:35.309 --> 00:11:37.610 just joining a club, you are rejoining your eternal 00:11:37.610 --> 00:11:40.250 family. And all of this was framed against a 00:11:40.250 --> 00:11:43.019 ticking clock. We see this in so many doomsday 00:11:43.019 --> 00:11:44.919 groups. They believe the world was changing, 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:47.960 right? The Age of Aquarius? Yes, but their version 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:50.220 of the Age of Aquarius wasn't the peace and love 00:11:50.220 --> 00:11:52.879 version from the musical air. Not exactly. Not 00:11:52.879 --> 00:11:54.980 at all. It was apocalyptic. They believed the 00:11:54.980 --> 00:11:56.919 Earth was moving from the Age of Pisces to the 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:59.379 Age of Aquarius, and that this transition would 00:11:59.379 --> 00:12:02.440 not be smooth. They believed in an apocalyptic 00:12:02.440 --> 00:12:05.639 fire, that the Earth would be consumed, destroyed 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:08.940 by ecological and spiritual collapse. And the 00:12:08.940 --> 00:12:11.220 only way to survive was to not be here when it 00:12:11.220 --> 00:12:13.419 happened. Exactly. And this brings us to the 00:12:13.419 --> 00:12:15.860 most dangerous word in their entire vocabulary, 00:12:16.360 --> 00:12:19.700 a word that became their directive. Transit. 00:12:19.960 --> 00:12:22.580 Transit. This is the concept that evolved so 00:12:22.580 --> 00:12:25.820 fatally over time. Originally, the term was borrowed 00:12:25.820 --> 00:12:28.940 from Amoros, a Rosicrucian group DiMombro had 00:12:28.940 --> 00:12:31.519 been a part of. And in that context, transit 00:12:31.519 --> 00:12:34.100 usually just meant the natural death and transition 00:12:34.100 --> 00:12:36.340 of the soul. Or metaphor. Right. Or sometimes 00:12:36.340 --> 00:12:39.100 in the early days of the OTS, it was just metaphorical, 00:12:39.120 --> 00:12:41.179 a spiritual evolution, a rising in consciousness. 00:12:41.539 --> 00:12:43.299 But then it started getting a lot more literal. 00:12:43.620 --> 00:12:46.299 It did. As the group became more isolated and 00:12:46.299 --> 00:12:49.379 more paranoid, the definition of transit. It 00:12:49.379 --> 00:12:52.379 went from a voluntary departure to another dimension, 00:12:52.620 --> 00:12:56.000 perhaps via a UFO, or crossing through a mirror 00:12:56.000 --> 00:12:59.080 into a parallel world to a ritualistic death. 00:12:59.340 --> 00:13:01.659 So it became a plan. The idea was that to acquire 00:13:01.659 --> 00:13:04.139 their solar bodies and reach Sirius to continue 00:13:04.139 --> 00:13:06.039 their mission, they had to leave their earthly 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:08.860 vessels behind. Transit became the euphemism 00:13:08.860 --> 00:13:12.299 for suicide and eventually for murder. It's terrifying 00:13:12.299 --> 00:13:15.059 how a word can be twisted like that. You think 00:13:15.059 --> 00:13:16.740 you're signing up for a spiritual journey and 00:13:16.740 --> 00:13:19.120 suddenly... Transit means something horrific. 00:13:19.700 --> 00:13:21.820 I want to look at what life was actually like 00:13:21.820 --> 00:13:24.399 inside the order before things went completely 00:13:24.399 --> 00:13:27.059 off the rails. Okay. Because to keep these wealthy, 00:13:27.220 --> 00:13:29.700 educated people hooked, they had to put on a 00:13:29.700 --> 00:13:32.080 show. And I mean that literally. The aesthetics 00:13:32.080 --> 00:13:34.480 were incredibly important. You have to remember, 00:13:34.659 --> 00:13:37.580 DeMombrel was a jeweler. He appreciated beauty, 00:13:37.860 --> 00:13:41.679 presentation, lighting. And they had money millions 00:13:41.679 --> 00:13:43.820 flowed in from these wealthy donors. And they 00:13:43.820 --> 00:13:46.419 spent it. They spent it on high -budget rituals. 00:13:46.580 --> 00:13:49.200 They had custom -made robes with Templar crosses, 00:13:49.480 --> 00:13:52.240 broad swords, gold chalices. They used lighting 00:13:52.240 --> 00:13:53.740 effects that would rival a theater production. 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:57.259 They played Wagner at high volume. It was designed 00:13:57.259 --> 00:13:59.639 to be a complete sensory overload. To create 00:13:59.639 --> 00:14:01.759 an altered state of consciousness? Yeah. But 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:03.700 they had special effects that went beyond just, 00:14:03.779 --> 00:14:05.980 you know, mood lighting. They had masters actually 00:14:05.980 --> 00:14:07.840 appearing in the room. This is one of the most 00:14:07.840 --> 00:14:10.740 cynical aspects of D 'Amambro's control, and 00:14:10.740 --> 00:14:13.340 it's the smoking gun for the fraud. He built 00:14:13.340 --> 00:14:15.519 underground sanctuaries in their properties, 00:14:15.720 --> 00:14:18.659 actual crypts. Like in the basement? Underground. 00:14:19.519 --> 00:14:22.159 Members would be led down into these crypts, 00:14:22.159 --> 00:14:24.840 and they would see visual manifestations of the 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:27.340 ascended masters. They would hear these booming 00:14:27.340 --> 00:14:30.700 voices giving them instructions. For years, members 00:14:30.700 --> 00:14:32.779 genuinely believed they were in the physical 00:14:32.779 --> 00:14:35.779 presence of divine beings. But they weren't. 00:14:35.779 --> 00:14:40.620 What was it? No. It turns out these were holograms. 00:14:40.960 --> 00:14:43.240 well, not technically holograms in the Star Wars 00:14:43.240 --> 00:14:45.720 sense, but sophisticated visual tricks involving 00:14:45.720 --> 00:14:48.480 mirrors and light projections. Like an old magic 00:14:48.480 --> 00:14:50.679 trick. A very sophisticated magic trick. They 00:14:50.679 --> 00:14:52.799 had a member named Tony Dutoit, who was the lighting 00:14:52.799 --> 00:14:55.039 technician. He was the guy who set up these illusions. 00:14:55.500 --> 00:14:57.960 So when the master told you to donate more money 00:14:57.960 --> 00:14:59.860 or to break up with your wife... It wasn't just 00:14:59.860 --> 00:15:02.879 DeMauro telling you. No, it was a glowing, ethereal 00:15:02.879 --> 00:15:05.940 being from another dimension telling you. That 00:15:05.940 --> 00:15:09.159 is a powerful level of manipulation. It bypasses 00:15:09.159 --> 00:15:10.960 your critical thinking because you saw it with 00:15:10.960 --> 00:15:13.000 your own eyes. You mentioned breaking up with 00:15:13.000 --> 00:15:14.980 your wife. That leads us to another one of their 00:15:14.980 --> 00:15:18.179 concepts, cosmic coupling. This is another one 00:15:18.179 --> 00:15:20.019 of those terms that sounds kind of groovy but 00:15:20.019 --> 00:15:22.740 is actually a tool for total domination. It's 00:15:22.740 --> 00:15:26.399 a classic cult technique. Scholars call it defamilialization. 00:15:26.940 --> 00:15:29.950 The goal... is to break the bonds you have with 00:15:29.950 --> 00:15:32.470 your earthly family, your spouse, your parents, 00:15:32.570 --> 00:15:35.629 your children, so that your only loyalty is to 00:15:35.629 --> 00:15:39.169 the order. So how did it work? Dimambro or Jure 00:15:39.169 --> 00:15:42.269 would look at a married couple, maybe a couple 00:15:42.269 --> 00:15:44.289 that had been together for 20 years, who loved 00:15:44.289 --> 00:15:46.669 each other, and say, your karmic cycle together 00:15:46.669 --> 00:15:49.649 is finished. You are cosmically incompatible. 00:15:49.769 --> 00:15:51.929 You are holding each other back. And then they 00:15:51.929 --> 00:15:54.490 would just reassign them, just like that. Immediately. 00:15:55.259 --> 00:15:57.500 They would be forced to separate and were assigned 00:15:57.500 --> 00:16:00.820 new karmic partners. And these new pairings were 00:16:00.820 --> 00:16:03.519 often bizarre and disturbing. Like what? They 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:05.679 would pair a woman in her 30s with a 14 -year 00:16:05.679 --> 00:16:08.399 -old boy. The justification was always spiritual, 00:16:08.580 --> 00:16:11.120 that they were matching discarnate archetypal 00:16:11.120 --> 00:16:14.279 forms, not just bodies. But the real effect was 00:16:14.279 --> 00:16:16.919 to shatter the family unit and create total dependency 00:16:16.919 --> 00:16:19.740 on the leaders. If you can't rely on your spouse, 00:16:20.019 --> 00:16:22.480 who do you rely on? You have to rely on the Order. 00:16:22.990 --> 00:16:25.350 And speaking of shattering families and creating 00:16:25.350 --> 00:16:27.870 new ones, we have to talk about the cosmic child. 00:16:28.350 --> 00:16:30.889 This part of the story centers on a girl named 00:16:30.889 --> 00:16:33.769 Emmanuelle. This is absolutely central to the 00:16:33.769 --> 00:16:36.389 group's mythology and ultimately its collapse. 00:16:37.110 --> 00:16:39.289 Dimambro had a daughter, Emmanuelle, who was 00:16:39.289 --> 00:16:42.549 born in 1982. Her mother was Dominique Bellaton, 00:16:42.830 --> 00:16:45.970 who was Dimambro's mistress. But Dimambro claimed 00:16:45.970 --> 00:16:49.029 that he didn't biologically father her in the 00:16:49.029 --> 00:16:52.190 normal way. He claimed she was... immaculately 00:16:52.190 --> 00:16:54.649 conceived through the power of his mind. That 00:16:54.649 --> 00:16:57.429 is a bold claim. He thought his thoughts got 00:16:57.429 --> 00:16:59.370 her pregnant. That was the official doctrine. 00:16:59.629 --> 00:17:02.409 And because of this supposedly miraculous origin, 00:17:02.690 --> 00:17:04.869 the pressure put on this poor child was immense. 00:17:05.369 --> 00:17:07.650 She was considered the Christ of the new generation, 00:17:07.789 --> 00:17:09.990 an avatar. Just a casual amount of pressure for 00:17:09.990 --> 00:17:12.349 a kid. Right. And de Mabre actually claimed she 00:17:12.349 --> 00:17:15.289 was a male soul trapped in a female body because 00:17:15.289 --> 00:17:17.950 a female body was considered imperfect in his 00:17:17.950 --> 00:17:20.390 twisted theology. They often referred to her 00:17:20.390 --> 00:17:23.599 as he. That's incredibly strange. It gets stranger. 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:26.140 She had to wear a helmet and gloves when she 00:17:26.140 --> 00:17:28.420 was around other people to protect her purity 00:17:28.420 --> 00:17:31.119 and her aura. She was kept isolated, treated 00:17:31.119 --> 00:17:33.740 as a deity, and was raised to be the conscience 00:17:33.740 --> 00:17:37.059 of the new humanity. Imagine growing up like 00:17:37.059 --> 00:17:40.619 that. Wearing a helmet, being worshipped, told 00:17:40.619 --> 00:17:43.880 you're a male soul from the stars. But kids grow 00:17:43.880 --> 00:17:46.960 up. And that brings us to section four, the decline. 00:17:47.660 --> 00:17:49.900 Because you can only keep a hologram show and 00:17:49.900 --> 00:17:53.099 a cosmic child act going for so long before reality 00:17:53.099 --> 00:17:55.680 starts knocking on the door. And it started knocking 00:17:55.680 --> 00:17:58.740 hard in the early 90s. The cracks really began 00:17:58.740 --> 00:18:01.099 to appear. First, there was financial strain. 00:18:01.279 --> 00:18:03.140 But they had all these rich donors. They did. 00:18:03.630 --> 00:18:05.750 Yes, they had wealthy donors like Camille Pilate, 00:18:05.750 --> 00:18:07.849 who gave millions, but they were burning through 00:18:07.849 --> 00:18:10.150 cash. They were buying real estate in Canada, 00:18:10.230 --> 00:18:13.009 in Switzerland, maintaining this lavish lifestyle 00:18:13.009 --> 00:18:15.769 for the leaders. The money was going out faster 00:18:15.769 --> 00:18:17.609 than it was coming in. But the bigger blow was 00:18:17.609 --> 00:18:20.509 the loss of Fay. Much bigger. The hologram thing 00:18:20.509 --> 00:18:23.150 came out. In a twist of irony, DeVombro's own 00:18:23.150 --> 00:18:26.450 son, Eli, discovered the fraud. He figured out 00:18:26.450 --> 00:18:28.950 the masters were just visual effects. And Tony 00:18:28.950 --> 00:18:31.740 Detoy, the technician who set it all up. He eventually 00:18:31.740 --> 00:18:33.700 left the group and confirmed it to others. So 00:18:33.700 --> 00:18:36.299 the secret was out. The secret was out. And when 00:18:36.299 --> 00:18:38.940 word got around that the divine visions were 00:18:38.940 --> 00:18:42.380 just stage magic, there was an exodus. In 1990 00:18:42.380 --> 00:18:45.779 and 1991, a significant number of members walked 00:18:45.779 --> 00:18:49.680 away. They realized they had been duped. So DeMomber 00:18:49.680 --> 00:18:51.700 is losing his audience. He's losing his revenue 00:18:51.700 --> 00:18:54.339 stream. And then the cosmic child, Emmanuel, 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:58.329 starts acting like... Well, a regular preteen. 00:18:58.569 --> 00:19:01.349 Exactly. By the early 90s, Emmanuelle is hitting 00:19:01.349 --> 00:19:03.690 puberty. She's around 12 years old and she starts 00:19:03.690 --> 00:19:05.369 rebelling. She doesn't want to be the cosmic 00:19:05.369 --> 00:19:07.190 Christ anymore. She wants to listen to pop music. 00:19:07.210 --> 00:19:09.009 She wants to be a normal teenager. Which for 00:19:09.009 --> 00:19:11.029 de Membre must have been a catastrophe. A cosmic 00:19:11.029 --> 00:19:12.869 catastrophe. He didn't see it as teenage rebellion. 00:19:13.130 --> 00:19:16.509 He viewed her rejection of her sacred role as 00:19:16.509 --> 00:19:18.630 a sign that dark forces were attacking the order 00:19:18.630 --> 00:19:20.910 through her. And then comes the external pressure, 00:19:21.190 --> 00:19:24.190 the gun scandal. This is the moment where the 00:19:24.190 --> 00:19:26.789 outside world, the law, finally gets involved. 00:19:27.210 --> 00:19:30.410 What happened there? This was in Canada. Geray, 00:19:30.490 --> 00:19:32.910 the frontman, asked members to buy three semi 00:19:32.910 --> 00:19:36.470 -automatic guns. But specifically, he wanted 00:19:36.470 --> 00:19:39.859 silencers. Now... Buying guns is one thing, but 00:19:39.859 --> 00:19:42.839 silencers, that raises immediate red flags. For 00:19:42.839 --> 00:19:45.400 anyone. Yeah, so in 1993, the members were caught, 00:19:45.539 --> 00:19:48.039 and Jure and two others were arrested. Why did 00:19:48.039 --> 00:19:49.980 they say they wanted silencers? Did they have 00:19:49.980 --> 00:19:52.500 a cover story? The explanation given to the public 00:19:52.500 --> 00:19:54.859 and the courts was vague. Something about self 00:19:54.859 --> 00:19:57.519 -defense or survivalism, but in hindsight, knowing 00:19:57.519 --> 00:19:59.579 what came later, the implications are just chilling. 00:19:59.779 --> 00:20:01.640 So what happened in court? They got off with 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:04.559 a suspended sentence and a fine. But the real 00:20:04.559 --> 00:20:06.619 damage was done. The media started paying attention. 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.059 Journalists started asking, who are these people? 00:20:09.200 --> 00:20:12.819 Why do these supposed spiritualists need silencers? 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:15.599 And for a group that thrives on secrecy, media 00:20:15.599 --> 00:20:19.299 scrutiny is poison. It triggered intense paranoia. 00:20:19.720 --> 00:20:22.420 D 'Ambro and Jouret began to view the police, 00:20:22.619 --> 00:20:25.559 the media, and the government not just as annoyances, 00:20:25.579 --> 00:20:28.279 but as agents of a cosmic conspiracy against 00:20:28.279 --> 00:20:30.799 them. They believed this was the Kali Yuga that 00:20:30.799 --> 00:20:33.839 the Dark Age prophesies. some traditions they 00:20:33.839 --> 00:20:36.400 felt the world was rejecting them so they decided 00:20:36.400 --> 00:20:39.380 to reject the world and then dimambro identified 00:20:39.380 --> 00:20:43.119 a specific enemy a personal enemy an antichrist 00:20:43.119 --> 00:20:45.660 yes and this antichrist wasn't a politician or 00:20:45.660 --> 00:20:49.160 a general it was a baby it was a baby tony du 00:20:49.160 --> 00:20:50.839 toit the lighting technician who had left the 00:20:50.839 --> 00:20:52.839 group the man who knew the secrets of the holograms 00:20:52.839 --> 00:20:55.539 he and his wife nikki had a baby boy in 1994. 00:20:56.359 --> 00:20:59.000 And they named him Christopher Emmanuel. Emmanuel, 00:20:59.200 --> 00:21:01.759 just like DeMombro's daughter. Exactly. DeMombro 00:21:01.759 --> 00:21:04.240 took this as a personal insult and a cosmic threat. 00:21:04.700 --> 00:21:07.339 He believed this baby was the Antichrist, sent 00:21:07.339 --> 00:21:09.779 to threaten the supremacy of his own cosmic child, 00:21:09.880 --> 00:21:12.000 Emmanuel. The name's similarity, the betrayal 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:15.059 by the father, it all just crystallized DeMombro's 00:21:15.059 --> 00:21:17.819 madness. So you have financial ruin, a rebellious 00:21:17.819 --> 00:21:20.599 messiah, exposure of their tricks, legal trouble, 00:21:20.819 --> 00:21:23.920 and now a perceived Antichrist. The walls are 00:21:23.920 --> 00:21:26.480 closing in. They are closing in fast. And this 00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.119 leads us to Section 5, the tragedies. This is 00:21:30.119 --> 00:21:32.420 where the transit stops being a theory and becomes 00:21:32.420 --> 00:21:36.200 a very real, very bloody plan. It begins in October 00:21:36.200 --> 00:21:40.019 1994. We call this the first wave. And it happened 00:21:40.019 --> 00:21:42.400 almost simultaneously across the Atlantic, which 00:21:42.400 --> 00:21:44.240 just shows the level of coordination involved. 00:21:44.619 --> 00:21:47.539 Let's start in Quebec, Morin Heights. This is 00:21:47.539 --> 00:21:50.319 where the Antichrist baby was. Yes. On September 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:53.579 30th, 1994, de Mambro ordered the elimination 00:21:53.579 --> 00:21:57.140 of the Antichrist. Two fervent members, Joel 00:21:57.140 --> 00:21:59.259 Egger and Dominique Belleton. The mother of the 00:21:59.259 --> 00:22:02.599 cosmic child. The mother of Emmanuel. They lured 00:22:02.599 --> 00:22:05.599 the Dutoy family to a chalet in Morin Heights. 00:22:06.440 --> 00:22:09.180 Tony Dutoy, his wife Nikki, and their infant 00:22:09.180 --> 00:22:11.960 son were murdered. It was brutal and ritualistic. 00:22:11.980 --> 00:22:13.920 They were stabbed repeatedly. It's just horrific. 00:22:14.059 --> 00:22:16.119 They murdered a baby because they thought he 00:22:16.119 --> 00:22:18.400 was the Antichrist. And then the perpetrators, 00:22:18.440 --> 00:22:20.339 Egger and Belleton, they fled to Switzerland. 00:22:20.960 --> 00:22:23.039 Two other members, a couple named the Genudes, 00:22:23.200 --> 00:22:25.759 stayed behind to clean up and set incendiary 00:22:25.759 --> 00:22:28.180 timers to burn the house down. They eventually 00:22:28.180 --> 00:22:30.819 died in that fire days later. But the main event 00:22:30.819 --> 00:22:33.859 was shifting to Switzerland. Chury and Salvin. 00:22:34.259 --> 00:22:37.759 Two small villages in Switzerland. This is where 00:22:37.759 --> 00:22:40.119 the mass death happened. On the night of October 00:22:40.119 --> 00:22:43.380 4th to 5th, the authorities responded to fires 00:22:43.380 --> 00:22:46.440 in these two locations. In Chury, they found 00:22:46.440 --> 00:22:50.140 23 bodies in a farm. In Salvin, they found 25 00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:53.819 bodies in three chalets. And this is where the 00:22:53.819 --> 00:22:57.420 distinction between suicide and murder gets very, 00:22:57.480 --> 00:23:00.119 very blurry, right? It's not just blurry. The 00:23:00.119 --> 00:23:03.180 investigation proved it was a mix. The OTS leadership 00:23:03.180 --> 00:23:05.240 in their testament letters that they mailed out 00:23:05.240 --> 00:23:07.559 to media and family. They left a note. A big 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:10.160 one. They categorized the deaths into three groups. 00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:12.980 First, you had the traitors. These were people 00:23:12.980 --> 00:23:16.079 they wanted to eliminate. At Cheery. many victims 00:23:16.079 --> 00:23:18.460 were shot evidence showed 20 of them were shot 00:23:18.460 --> 00:23:20.460 with the same gun many had been drugged with 00:23:20.460 --> 00:23:22.640 sleeping pills first some were suffocated with 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:25.140 plastic bags these were executions so they called 00:23:25.140 --> 00:23:27.339 them traitors and just murdered them in their 00:23:27.339 --> 00:23:29.910 sleep correct then you had the immortals These 00:23:29.910 --> 00:23:32.150 are committed members who perhaps didn't have 00:23:32.150 --> 00:23:33.470 the strength to pull the trigger themselves. 00:23:33.910 --> 00:23:36.529 They were helped to die assisted suicide effectively. 00:23:36.750 --> 00:23:39.390 And the third group. The Awakened. These were 00:23:39.390 --> 00:23:41.650 the core leaders and the most true believers, 00:23:41.849 --> 00:23:44.869 including DeMombro and Jure themselves, who committed 00:23:44.869 --> 00:23:48.589 voluntary suicide. At Salvin, poison injections 00:23:48.589 --> 00:23:51.410 were used, and then fires were set to destroy 00:23:51.410 --> 00:23:53.630 the bodies and the earthly evidence. And those 00:23:53.630 --> 00:23:55.630 letters they sent out, the testament, what was 00:23:55.630 --> 00:23:57.369 the point? What did they say? They wanted to 00:23:57.369 --> 00:24:00.089 control the narrative even in death. They claimed 00:24:00.089 --> 00:24:01.829 they were leaving this earth because it was too 00:24:01.829 --> 00:24:04.230 corrupt, that they were transiting to Sirius 00:24:04.230 --> 00:24:06.930 to prepare for the new solar age. They spun it 00:24:06.930 --> 00:24:10.130 as a glorious, defiant departure, not a massacre. 00:24:10.309 --> 00:24:12.650 You would think, after more than 50 people die, 00:24:12.930 --> 00:24:15.150 that the story ends there. The leaders are dead. 00:24:15.309 --> 00:24:17.990 The spell should be broken for anyone left. But 00:24:17.990 --> 00:24:20.559 it wasn't. That is the terrible tragedy of the 00:24:20.559 --> 00:24:23.240 millenarian mindset. When the prophecy fails 00:24:23.240 --> 00:24:26.180 or when the leaders die, sometimes the belief 00:24:26.180 --> 00:24:28.779 intensifies for the survivors. They feel they 00:24:28.779 --> 00:24:31.480 were left behind. This brings us to the second 00:24:31.480 --> 00:24:34.980 wave in December 1995. This was in the Vercors 00:24:34.980 --> 00:24:38.880 Massif in France. Yes. Sixteen bodies were found 00:24:38.880 --> 00:24:41.079 in a remote clearing in the mountains. They were 00:24:41.079 --> 00:24:43.319 arranged in a star formation. The investigation 00:24:43.319 --> 00:24:46.220 revealed that 14 of them had been shot by two 00:24:46.220 --> 00:24:49.380 other members. a man named Jean -Pierre Lardanchet, 00:24:49.480 --> 00:24:52.740 and another named André Friedli, who then immolated 00:24:52.740 --> 00:24:55.599 the bodies and killed themselves. But why? Why 00:24:55.599 --> 00:24:58.259 do it a year later? The psychology was that they 00:24:58.259 --> 00:25:00.079 had missed the bus. That was the phrase they 00:25:00.079 --> 00:25:02.579 used. They regretted not being part of the 1994 00:25:02.579 --> 00:25:05.500 transit, they felt stuck in a doomed world without 00:25:05.500 --> 00:25:07.619 their leaders, and they wanted to rejoin them 00:25:07.619 --> 00:25:10.660 on Sirius. It speaks to how deeply the indoctrination 00:25:10.660 --> 00:25:13.460 had taken hold. Even without Dimambro whispering 00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:15.599 in their ears, the program was still running 00:25:15.599 --> 00:25:18.160 in their minds. And then, unbelievably, there 00:25:18.160 --> 00:25:21.480 was a third wave. March 1997. Back in Quebec 00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:24.819 again. St. Casimir. This one. This one hits differently 00:25:24.819 --> 00:25:26.420 because of the children who were involved. The 00:25:26.420 --> 00:25:29.140 St. Casimir incident is just heartbreaking. Five 00:25:29.140 --> 00:25:31.559 people died in a burning house. It was two couples, 00:25:31.700 --> 00:25:33.480 the Quezes and the Clauses, and one of their 00:25:33.480 --> 00:25:35.960 mothers. But inside that house were also three 00:25:35.960 --> 00:25:38.619 teenagers, the children of the Quez couple. And 00:25:38.619 --> 00:25:41.420 they survived. They did. And the story they told 00:25:41.420 --> 00:25:44.349 is terrifying. The adults wanted to take the 00:25:44.349 --> 00:25:45.890 children with them. They wanted the whole family 00:25:45.890 --> 00:25:48.869 to transit together. The teenagers, who had lived 00:25:48.869 --> 00:25:51.329 on the periphery of this belief system, they 00:25:51.329 --> 00:25:53.109 effectively had to negotiate for their lives. 00:25:53.450 --> 00:25:55.609 Imagine that conversation, having to convince 00:25:55.609 --> 00:25:58.589 your parents not to kill you. It's unimaginable. 00:25:58.630 --> 00:26:01.450 And it gets worse. The adults tried to set the 00:26:01.450 --> 00:26:03.849 house on fire and kill themselves, but they failed. 00:26:04.109 --> 00:26:06.230 The timing devices didn't work, or they were 00:26:06.230 --> 00:26:08.829 too sick from the drugs they took. So they actually 00:26:08.829 --> 00:26:11.089 asked the teenagers to help them. Help them die. 00:26:11.309 --> 00:26:14.390 Yes. The teenagers, in a state of shock and likely 00:26:14.390 --> 00:26:16.990 conditioned obedience, eventually set the fire 00:26:16.990 --> 00:26:19.750 that killed their parents, as requested, and 00:26:19.750 --> 00:26:22.930 then they escaped. That is, that's an absolute 00:26:22.930 --> 00:26:24.970 nightmare, those poor kids. It just shows the 00:26:24.970 --> 00:26:27.730 absolute warping of reality that the OTS created. 00:26:28.190 --> 00:26:30.690 For the parents, asking their kids to light the 00:26:30.690 --> 00:26:33.750 fire was, in their twisted logic, a final act 00:26:33.750 --> 00:26:36.750 of love or a final instruction. For the kids, 00:26:36.990 --> 00:26:39.170 it was the only way to end the horror and get 00:26:39.170 --> 00:26:42.630 out. So, after 74 deaths, the violence finally 00:26:42.630 --> 00:26:45.369 stopped. But the questions didn't. Let's move 00:26:45.369 --> 00:26:48.009 to the aftermath. Because usually when a cult 00:26:48.009 --> 00:26:50.329 ends like this, there's no one left to prosecute. 00:26:50.410 --> 00:26:54.390 But there was one high -ranking survivor. Michelle 00:26:54.390 --> 00:26:57.569 Tabachnik. Michelle Tabachnik. He was a famous 00:26:57.569 --> 00:27:00.400 conductor. A legitimate, high -profile musician. 00:27:00.700 --> 00:27:03.000 He had been very close to DeMambro. He was the 00:27:03.000 --> 00:27:05.339 president of the old Golden Way Foundation. He 00:27:05.339 --> 00:27:07.519 had written many of the philosophical, esoteric 00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:10.079 texts used by the Order. But he didn't die in 00:27:10.079 --> 00:27:12.220 the transits. So he was put on trial. What was 00:27:12.220 --> 00:27:14.779 the charge? He was accused of criminal conspiracy. 00:27:15.299 --> 00:27:17.440 The argument from the prosecution was that his 00:27:17.440 --> 00:27:19.960 writings provided the ideological framework that 00:27:19.960 --> 00:27:22.460 made the suicides possible. That he was effectively 00:27:22.460 --> 00:27:24.920 the intellectual author of the deaths. Did it 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:28.000 stick? No. He was acquitted. Twice. The court 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:30.220 couldn't prove a direct causal link between his 00:27:30.220 --> 00:27:32.660 esoteric writings and the specific decision to 00:27:32.660 --> 00:27:35.180 commit mass suicide and murder. Toboknik argued 00:27:35.180 --> 00:27:37.740 he was just a seeker who had no idea de Mambro 00:27:37.740 --> 00:27:39.920 was planning violence. And is that believable? 00:27:40.140 --> 00:27:42.059 Whether that is true or not is still debated 00:27:42.059 --> 00:27:44.539 by those who study the case. But legally, he 00:27:44.539 --> 00:27:47.579 was cleared. And because of the wealth, the connections, 00:27:47.700 --> 00:27:50.519 the sheer weirdness of it all, the conspiracy 00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:53.160 theories must have been absolutely rampant. Oh, 00:27:53.180 --> 00:27:55.680 completely. People could not accept that a mayor... 00:27:55.839 --> 00:27:58.039 a watch executive and government officials would 00:27:58.039 --> 00:28:00.559 join a cult and kill themselves. It just didn't 00:28:00.559 --> 00:28:03.240 fit the narrative. So theories exploded. It was 00:28:03.240 --> 00:28:05.839 all a front for money laundering. It was government 00:28:05.839 --> 00:28:09.140 hits, far -right political intrigue, arms dealing. 00:28:09.420 --> 00:28:11.839 Was there any truth to any of it? Well, the official 00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.460 investigations found no evidence of massive money 00:28:14.460 --> 00:28:17.299 laundering or external hit squads. The mundane 00:28:17.299 --> 00:28:21.240 and frankly more terrifying truth is that wealthy, 00:28:21.299 --> 00:28:24.339 smart people are just as susceptible to spiritual 00:28:24.339 --> 00:28:27.140 manipulation as anyone else. But the conspiracy 00:28:27.140 --> 00:28:29.900 theories served a psychological purpose. They 00:28:29.900 --> 00:28:31.960 allowed the public to avoid facing the uncomfortable 00:28:31.960 --> 00:28:34.380 reality of how fragile the human mind can be. 00:28:34.980 --> 00:28:36.819 Culturally, though, this changed things in Europe, 00:28:36.880 --> 00:28:38.940 didn't it? This was a big deal. A huge impact. 00:28:39.259 --> 00:28:41.740 In the U .S., you had Jonestown and Waco as these 00:28:41.740 --> 00:28:44.759 reference points. In Europe, the OTS was the 00:28:44.759 --> 00:28:47.160 watershed moment. It led to something called 00:28:47.160 --> 00:28:50.299 the Gaillard Commission in France and very strict 00:28:50.299 --> 00:28:53.359 anti -cult laws in both France and Belgium. It 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:55.500 shifted the government stance from religious 00:28:55.500 --> 00:28:58.619 freedom means hands off to we need to monitor 00:28:58.619 --> 00:29:01.480 these groups to protect our citizens. The sect, 00:29:01.619 --> 00:29:04.279 the French word for cult, became a target of 00:29:04.279 --> 00:29:06.559 state surveillance in a way it hadn't been before. 00:29:06.819 --> 00:29:08.980 So as we wrap this up, let's try to summarize 00:29:08.980 --> 00:29:12.759 this, this tragedy. 74 people dead in a quest 00:29:12.759 --> 00:29:16.029 for a solar body. What is the big takeaway here 00:29:16.029 --> 00:29:18.329 for you? For me, the OTS challenges are arrogance. 00:29:18.589 --> 00:29:20.589 We like to think, oh, I'm too smart to join a 00:29:20.589 --> 00:29:22.390 cult, or I have a good job, I have a family, 00:29:22.470 --> 00:29:25.210 I'm grounded. The OTS proves that intelligence 00:29:25.210 --> 00:29:27.910 and success are not a shield against indoctrination. 00:29:28.150 --> 00:29:29.609 In fact, it might have been part of the appeal. 00:29:29.809 --> 00:29:32.430 I think so. DeMommer preyed on people who felt 00:29:32.430 --> 00:29:34.250 they were too special for the ordinary world. 00:29:34.470 --> 00:29:37.210 He sold them elitism. He sold them the idea that 00:29:37.210 --> 00:29:39.990 they were chosen superior souls. And that appeal 00:29:39.990 --> 00:29:42.849 to narcissism is a very powerful drug. So it 00:29:42.849 --> 00:29:45.029 wasn't about desperation. It was about bespiration. 00:29:45.589 --> 00:29:47.890 They wanted to be more than just successful humans. 00:29:48.009 --> 00:29:50.750 They wanted to be solar gods. Precisely. And 00:29:50.750 --> 00:29:53.470 the mechanism was a closed logic system. Once 00:29:53.470 --> 00:29:56.710 you accepted the first premise that we are reincarnated 00:29:56.710 --> 00:29:59.549 Templars, the world is ending, and Dimambro speaks 00:29:59.549 --> 00:30:02.210 for the masters, then every other terrible thing, 00:30:02.289 --> 00:30:04.789 from giving up your money to giving up your life, 00:30:04.970 --> 00:30:08.069 becomes a logical next step. It's a sobering 00:30:08.069 --> 00:30:11.250 reminder of the power of belief. I want to leave 00:30:11.250 --> 00:30:14.109 you, our listener, with a thought to mull over. 00:30:14.410 --> 00:30:17.250 We talked about the concept of transit, the promise 00:30:17.250 --> 00:30:20.329 of a perfect world somewhere else. We often think 00:30:20.329 --> 00:30:22.950 of hope as a good thing, a positive force. Right. 00:30:23.150 --> 00:30:25.549 But in the case of the solar temple, hope for 00:30:25.549 --> 00:30:28.630 a better place was weaponized. It makes you wonder, 00:30:28.769 --> 00:30:31.210 at what point does the promise of a paradise 00:30:31.210 --> 00:30:33.710 there become the most dangerous weapon against 00:30:33.710 --> 00:30:36.609 living your life here? That is the ultimate danger, 00:30:36.730 --> 00:30:38.809 isn't it? When the next world becomes more real 00:30:38.809 --> 00:30:41.430 and more important than this one, you are capable 00:30:41.430 --> 00:30:43.569 of destroying everything around you to get there. 00:30:43.750 --> 00:30:45.849 Thanks for listening to this deep dive. Stay 00:30:45.849 --> 00:30:48.589 curious, stay grounded, and we'll catch you on 00:30:48.589 --> 00:30:49.650 the next one. Goodbye.