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OK, let's get into this. I want you to, for a

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second, just imagine Mexico City, but not the

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one you see in a travel show. I want you to picture

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the Distrito Federal, the DF, right at the turn

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of the millennium. We're talking late 90s, early

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2000s. It's just a sea of humanity. I mean, you

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have something like 20 million people all living,

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working and breathing in this one massive, sprawling

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metropolis. It's organized chaos, really. Absolutely.

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And the city back then is in this huge period

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of change. It's modernizing like crazy, but you

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know, the social safety nets that are supposed

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to catch people, they're stretched incredibly

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thin. There are cracks everywhere. Big cracks.

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And it was inside those cracks that something

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really, really dark started to grow. We've got

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a whole stack of material here today, police

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reports, journalistic deep dives, court records,

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and they all tell the story of this wave of fear.

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And it wasn't a citywide panic, which is what's

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so interesting. It was targeted. It was very

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specific and frankly, an often invisible part

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of the population. Elderly women, specifically

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elderly women who were living on their own. Exactly.

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The grandmothers, the abuelitas, all of a sudden

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they were being found dead in their apartments.

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And this wasn't, you know, old age or sickness.

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This was violent. No, this was a predator. A

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very calculated, very patient serial killer was

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actively hunting in the capital. And the media,

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well, they just ran with it. They gave the killer

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a name that became infamous. La Mata Viejitas.

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The little old lady killer. Which, I have to

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say, it sounds almost... I don't know, like a

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character from a Grimm's fairy tale. It sort

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of diminishes the horror of it. It does sound

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like a caricature, but the reality was terrifying.

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And our mission today with this deep dive is

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to really get behind that name. and unpack the

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story of the person responsible. We're going

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to be talking about Juana Barraza. And this is

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where the story veers from, you know, your standard

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true crime narrative into something that feels

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like fiction. If you wrote this as a movie script,

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I swear the studio would send it back and say

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it was too unbelievable. The contradiction at

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the heart of it is just staggering. On the one

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hand, you have the killer's method, a cold, manipulative

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predator who gains trust by pretending to be

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a social worker. Right. Quiet. Methodical. On

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the other hand. By night, this exact same woman

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is a professional wrestler, stepping into the

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lucha libre ring. It's just, it's mind -blowing.

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Her stage name was La Dama del Silencio. The

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Lady of Silence. You cannot make this up. A wrestler

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called the Lady of Silence is moonlighting as

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a serial killer who preys on the elderly by posing

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as a government aid worker. So today, that's

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our goal. We need to understand how. How did

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she maintain this double life? And looking through

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these police files, how on earth did the investigation

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get it so wrong for so long? Oh, there's so much

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to get into. We have to talk about the victims,

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of course, but also the gender stereotypes that

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just completely derailed the police investigation.

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We'll get to the whole man in a dress theory

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later. In the childhood. I mean, her backstory.

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It redefines the word tragic. It doesn't excuse

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what she did, not for a second. But it shines

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a light on where all that rage came from. And

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we can't forget the painting. The French painting,

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yes. The boy in a red waistcoat. That is a bizarre

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detour that you will not believe. It's a whole

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mystery in itself. But let's start at the beginning

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with the crimes themselves. The foundation of

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this deep dive has to be understanding who exactly

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Lamatav Yajitas was hunting. Well, to really

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get the scope of the crimes, you had a lot to

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start with the victim profile. It was incredibly

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consistent. Juana Barraza was targeting women

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exclusively age 60 and over. But it wasn't just

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about age, right? It was their living situation

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that made them a target. That's the crucial detail.

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These weren't women living in those big multi

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-generational family homes you often associate

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with Mexican culture, with kids and grandkids

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running around. No. No. And that's a really key

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sociological point. In a city as dense and crowded

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as Mexico City, you can be profoundly isolated.

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These were often widows or women whose children

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had grown up and moved away, maybe to the suburbs,

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maybe they'd emigrated to the U .S. for work.

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They were living alone in these older, often

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rent -controlled apartments. They were part of

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the city's fabric, but they were invisible. Which,

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from a predator's point of view, makes them low

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-risk. There's nobody else in the house to fight

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back or be a witness. Low -risk, exactly. But

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also potentially high reward if robbery is part

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of the motive. Yeah. An older generation, they

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don't always trust banks. They might keep cash,

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jewelry, valuable religious items right there

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in the home. And the sheer scale of this. I was

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looking at the numbers in these reports and it's

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just staggering. It's horrific. The authorities,

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when they finally connected all the dots, estimated

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that the total death toll could be anywhere from

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42 to 48 victims. 48. 48 women. That is a massive

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number for a single serial killer operating in

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one city over a few years. It's almost unheard

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of. Now, to be clear, Barraza was ultimately

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convicted on 16 counts of murder. But the investigation,

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her modus operandi, it was linked to dozens more.

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So how does she do it? How does a person get

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close enough to kill that many people without

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raising alarm bells everywhere? I mean, she's

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not breaking down doors in the middle of the

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night. No, and that's what's so insidious about

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it. It wasn't about brute force to get in. It

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was all about deception. She used a disguise

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that was practically tailor -made to work on

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this specific demographic. She posed as a government

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official. A social worker, to be precise. Which

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is just... It's diabolically clever. Evil, but

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clever. Very. The investigators' reports detail

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how she'd show up at their doors, often with

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a clipboard and some official -looking documents.

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She'd tell them she was there to help them sign

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up for new government welfare programs, maybe

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a pension increase or food aid. And I want to

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just pause on that for a second because you have

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to understand why that works so well. Imagine

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you are one of these women. You're 80 years old.

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You're living on a tiny pension. You're lonely.

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Maybe you feel like the world has forgotten you.

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Right. And then there's a knock on the door.

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And it's a woman which feels less threatening.

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And she's holding a badge or an ID card. And

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she says, I'm from the government and I'm here

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to help you. You're going to open that door.

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100 % of the time. It's an exploitation of trust

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and need. Barraza weaponized the social safety

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net. She preyed on their financial vulnerability

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and their loneliness. When someone in a position

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of authority offers help, your guard just, it

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plummets. We're all conditioned to trust the

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person in the uniform, the nurse, the social

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worker. She twisted that instinct into a weapon.

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She absolutely did. And once she was inside the

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apartment, the mask came off. And the violence

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described in these files, it wasn't subtle. Not

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at all. The cause of death was almost always

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bludgeoning or strangulation. This was up close,

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physical, hands -on violence. It was brutal.

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And she often used items from inside the home.

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Here's another key detail. The reports mentioned

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things like telephone cords, the victim's own

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stockings, scarves, even a stethoscope in one

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case. So she's not walking in with a murder kit.

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It's not like she has a bag with a hammer and

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a rope. She's improvising. It implies a certain

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level of confidence, doesn't it? She was either

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improvising or she was so sure of her own physical

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strength that she knew she could find whatever

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she needed to get the job done right there at

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the scene. And on the surface, at least initially,

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this all looked like robberies that went wrong,

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correct? That was the most obvious motive. She

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would kill them and then rob them. She'd take

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small amounts of cash, maybe some jewelry, religious

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icons from their little altars. things she could

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easily carry and sell. But if it were just about

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money, there are a million easier ways to be

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a thief. You don't usually become a serial killer

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just to steal a few pesos and a silver crucifix.

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Exactly. Burglary doesn't escalate to serial

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murder on this scale unless there's a powerful

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psychological driver behind it. And that's where

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the profiling got really complex. Authorities

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later came to believe the motive wasn't financial

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at all. Not really. There's something else going

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on. A signature. A deep psychological signature.

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The prevailing theory among profilers was that

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Barraza was projecting. She associated these

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elderly, vulnerable women with her own mother,

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and in her deeply twisted logic, she believed

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she was helping society by killing them. Helping

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society? I just, that's a terrifying rationalization.

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That's how a person sleeps at night after doing

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something so monstrous. It points to a profound,

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deep -seated hatred. It wasn't about the women

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themselves. They were just stand -ins. They were

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symbols of the person she truly wanted to hurt.

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Which, of course, brings us to the investigation.

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Because when you have a killer leaving a trail

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of bodies this long over several years in a major

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capital city, you'd assume the police would be

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closing in fast. But reading through this timeline,

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they were looking for the wrong person entirely.

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This is a, I mean, it's a textbook example of

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how bias can completely blind an investigation.

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The initial profile was put together by Bernardo

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Batiz, who was the chief prosecutor for Mexico

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City at the time. And he described the killer

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as, what, clever? He said the killer had a brilliant

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mind, was clever, and careful. Which, to be fair,

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was accurate. She evaded capture for years. Okay,

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so far so good. But where did they go wrong?

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They went wrong on the most fundamental question

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of all. The gender of the killer. The authorities,

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the media, the public, everyone just assumed

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the killer was male. And this was because of

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the physical nature of the crimes, the strangulation?

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Yes, entirely. The assumption was rooted in the

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perceived strength required. Strangling a person,

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a resisting adult, is not like it is in the movies.

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It takes incredible upper body strength, grip

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strength, and sustained force for several minutes.

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So the thinking was, a woman couldn't do this.

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That was the prevailing theory. It was seen as

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a crime of brute force and therefore it had to

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be a man. It's a massive oversight rooted in,

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frankly, machismo and outdated gender stereotypes.

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They literally could not imagine a female perpetrator

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being capable of this kind of violence. But what

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about witnesses? I mean, with a crime spree this

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long, someone must have seen something. Someone

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leaving an apartment building, walking down the

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street. They did. They had witnesses. And this

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is where the story goes from a simple oversight

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to just. A painful case of confirmation bias.

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Multiple witnesses reported seeing a masculine

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-looking woman leaving the crime scenes. A masculine

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-looking woman. Or they would describe a large

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woman, someone with broad shoulders, maybe wearing

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a red blouse, which was a recurring detail. So,

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okay, the witnesses are literally telling them

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it was a big, strong woman, and the police heard,

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what? They heard, it must be a man in disguise.

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You have to be kidding me. I wish I was. The

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official police hypothesis became that the killer

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might be a man dressed as a woman. Or perhaps

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a transgender person? They were so locked into

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their male killer theory that they invented a

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scenario to make the evidence fit instead of

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the other way around. And this wasn't just a

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theory they kicked around the office. This had

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real -world consequences for people, didn't it?

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Horrible consequences. This flawed theory led

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to what journalists at the time called ham -fisted

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police swoops. They started rounding up and harassing

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Mexico City's transvestite sex workers. So they're

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out there arresting and terrifying a community

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that's already marginalized, all because they

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couldn't fathom that a biological woman might

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be the killer. That's essentially what happened.

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They wasted an enormous amount of investigative

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time, manpower, and resources. They drew heavy

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criticism from human rights groups. They were

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terrorizing innocent people, while the real killer...

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Juana Barraza, a cisgender woman, was continuing

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her spree completely undetected. It's just, it's

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infuriating. It's a tragedy layered on top of

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a tragedy. You have the victims of the killer

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and then you have the victims of the deeply flawed

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investigation. And the police were getting so

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lost, so confused, that even wilder theories

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started to emerge. At one point, they were floating

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a two -killers theory that maybe it was a team.

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Okay, I could see how they might get there. Then

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it gets even stranger. The police started checking

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the fingerprints of unidentified bodies in morgues.

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Why would they be doing that? It was their suicide

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theory. The killings would sometimes stop for

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a few weeks or a month, and the police started

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to think that maybe La Montevigites had committed

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suicide to escape being caught. They were completely

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at sea. Grasping at any straw they could find?

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Any straw at all. Because their primary profile,

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the male killer, was yielding absolutely nothing.

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And then, as if it wasn't confusing enough, the

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red waistcoat comes into play. When I read this

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part of the file, I had to stop and make sure

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I wasn't reading a Dan Brown novel. It's one

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of those details that's just stranger than fiction.

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It's the kind of bizarre coincidence that can

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send an entire investigation down a rabbit hole

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for months. So, set the scene. What is this painting?

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Okay, it's a piece by an 18th century French

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artist, Jean -Baptiste Grosse. The painting is

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called Boy in a Red Waistcoat. It was painted

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sometime around 1775, maybe 1780. A classic piece

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of French portraiture. What in God's name does

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that have to do with a serial killer in Mexico

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City in the early 2000s? Well, detectives on

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the case started noticing something very odd.

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They found prints. Cheap reproductions of this

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specific painting hanging on the walls in the

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homes of at least three of the victims. Three.

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Three different victims in a city of 20 million

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people all happen to own a print of the same

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obscure 18th century French painting. Exactly.

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And you can just imagine what that did to the

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investigation. They were already lost and now

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this. They thought it had to be a signature,

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a calling card left by the killer. Of course

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they did. I would too. It feels like a code.

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Was the killer targeting people who own this

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specific print? Was it a clue to their identity?

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Maybe they worked in an art museum or something?

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It was a massive red herring. It completely distracted

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the detectives. They spent valuable time investigating

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this link, talking to art dealers, looking for

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patterns in the art world that just weren't there.

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And in reality, what was it? In all likelihood,

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it was just a bizarre statistical anomaly. A

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complete coincidence. How is that possible? Well,

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think about it. Maybe a popular department store,

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like a Woolworth's equivalent, had a sale on

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these prints five years earlier. Maybe a street

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vendor who was popular in those neighborhoods

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had a stack of them one day. Or it was the cover

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of a popular calendar one year. So it meant absolutely

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nothing. As far as anyone can tell, it had zero

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connection to the killer's identity or motive.

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It was just a strange, random pattern that made

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a messy investigation even messier. Wow. So the

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police are out there. chasing transvestites,

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analyzing 18th century French art, and checking

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morgues for a suicide that never happened. And

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all the while, Juana Barraza is living this unbelievable

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double life right under their noses. And this

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is where we have to pivot and really look at

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who she was. Because her other life, her night

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job, is the key to understanding why the police

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were so wrong about the physical strength component.

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She was a professional wrestler, a luchadora.

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That's right. She was a fixture in the lucha

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libre circuit. Her ring name, as you said, was

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La Dama del Silencio, the Lady of Silence. Which,

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knowing everything we know now, just sends a

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chill down your spine. The Lady of Silence. The

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irony is profound. Now, for anyone who doesn't

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follow Lucha Libre, it's more than just wrestling.

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It's a spectacle, a form of theater. And in that

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theater, you have very clearly defined roles.

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You have the technicos. The good guys, the heroes.

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They're flashy. They do high -flying moves. They

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play by the rules. And then you have the rudas,

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the rough ones. The villains. The heels, as we'd

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call them in American wrestling. They're the

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brawlers, the rule breakers. They're there to

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be booed. And Juana always fought as a Ruta.

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She was cast as the villain in the ring. So just

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picture this for a moment. On a Friday night,

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she's in a wrestling ring, maybe in a sequined

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outfit and a mask, body slamming her opponents,

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playing the bad guy for a roaring crowd. And

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then on Tuesday morning, she's putting on a plain

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blouse, grabbing a fake ID card, and going out

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to murder a grandmother. The duality is just...

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It's hard to process. In the ring, she's performing

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violence. It's loud. It's theatrical. It's for

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entertainment and applause. But in her private

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life, she's committing this incredibly intimate,

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silent, real violence. And the wrestling explains

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the whole it must be a man theory, doesn't it?

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It explains it completely. To be a professional

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wrestler, you have to be incredibly strong. It

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requires immense core strength, grip strength,

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leverage, and a high pain tolerance. She was

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a trained athlete. A combat athlete. So the masculine

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strength the witnesses saw. Was her strength.

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The broad shoulders they described were the shoulders

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of a wrestler who spent hours in the gym. She

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had literally trained her body to be a weapon.

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And the police, in their biased view, simply

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failed to consider that a woman could achieve

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that level of physical power. But people aren't

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just born this way. They aren't born serial killers.

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There's almost always a story, a trauma, something

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that breaks a person. And Juana's backstory.

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I have to give a warning here. It is profoundly

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disturbing. It doesn't excuse a single thing

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she did. But it does help explain the rage. It's

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one of the most harrowing backstories I've ever

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come across in these cases. You have to go back

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to her childhood. She was born in a small rural

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town called Epazayucan in the state of Hidalgo,

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north of Mexico City. Her mother's name was Jesus

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Amperio. And by all accounts, the mother was

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an alcoholic. A severe alcoholic. And the central

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trauma of Juana's life, the event that seems

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to be the poison well from which everything else

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flows, happened when she was just a young girl.

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According to the court records and her own testimony,

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her mother, Justa, exchanged her for three beers.

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I just, I need to stop you there because we need

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to let that sink in. Her own mother traded her,

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sold her daughter to a man for three bottles

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of beer. That is the account. She handed her

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child over to a man in exchange for alcohol.

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It's the ultimate betrayal. The one person on

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earth whose job it is to protect you commodifies

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you for a drink. And what happened to her with

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that man? The abuse was unimaginable. She was

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repeatedly and brutally raped while in this man's

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care. She actually became pregnant by him and

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gave birth to a son while she was still, by any

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definition, a child herself. My God. It's just,

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it's a complete failure of family, of community,

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of everything. It is. And the tragedy just kept

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following her. She would go on to have four children

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in total, but her eldest son... The one who was

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born from that horrific abuse was later killed.

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He died from injuries he sustained in a street

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mugging. So her entire life is just bookended

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by violence. Violence from her mother, sexual

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violence from men, the violence of the streets

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that takes her son. Precisely. And if you draw

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a line from that past to the present of her crimes,

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the motive becomes terrifyingly clear. Barraza

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admitted in her interrogations that her motivation

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was a lingering resentment. about how her mother

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had treated her so every time she walked into

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an elderly woman's apartment she was walking

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into her mother's apartment she was killing her

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mother over and over and over again these victims

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were surrogates for her rage she saw these vulnerable

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older women and instead of seeing a person to

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be cared for she saw the person who had sold

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her for beer which makes that helping society

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comment even more twisted in her own broken mind

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she might have genuinely believed she was ridding

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the world of bad mothers it's a very disturbing

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but psychologically coherent possibility. It

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completely recontextualizes the crime spree.

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It was never just about robbery. It was about

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revenge. So she's out there killing for years.

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The police are chasing their tails with paintings

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and flawed theories. How does it all finally

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come to an end? Because eventually the luck runs

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out. It does. It all ends on January 25, 2006.

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Okay, take us to that day. Where are we? We're

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in the Venustiano Carranza borough of Mexico

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City. And the final victim is an 82 -year -old

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woman named Ana Maria de los Reyes Alfaro. And

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the method of killing? She was strangled with

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a stethoscope. A stethoscope, which fits the

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whole medical professional social worker disguise

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perfectly. It does. But this time, something

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went wrong for Barraza. Things didn't go as smoothly

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as they usually did. Barraza would later claim

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that she strangled Alfaro after they got into

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an argument. An argument about what? Her story

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was that it was a dispute over payment for house

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cleaning. For maid services. Wait, maid services.

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So she had switched up her disguise from social

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worker to maid that day. It's hard to know if

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that was the truth or just a story she concocted

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after she was caught. But whatever the reason,

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the result was the same. She murdered her. But

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this time, she didn't just melt back into the

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city. A neighbor saw her. Saw her leaving the

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apartment. A tenant in the building saw her fleeing

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the victim's home and immediately suspected something

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was wrong. He chased after her and managed to

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flag down some police who were patrolling nearby.

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So she was caught, basically, red -handed. As

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red -handed as it gets. The police intercepted

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her just down the street. And when they searched

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her, the evidence was damning. She was carrying

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the stethoscope used in the murder. She had pension

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forms. She had a fake social worker ID card.

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The complete toolkit of her deception right there

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on her person. And this is the real aha moment

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for the police. The moment where the stomach

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must have just dropped out of every detective

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on that case. When they finally got her back

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to the station and looked at her, really looked

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at her, they realized she was a near perfect

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match. Had a composite sketch they'd had for

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years. The one based on witness descriptions

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that they'd been ignoring? The very same one.

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The close cropped hair dyed blonde. The prominent

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facial mole. The broad, strong features. It was

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her. The sketch had been accurate all along.

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But because their minds were locked on finding

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a man, they'd looked right past the truth that

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was staring them in the face. They had her face.

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They just had the wrong gender attached to it

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in their heads. That's it exactly. So she's finally

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in custody. The press must have gone absolutely

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insane. The little old lady killer is a famous

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wrestler. That's a headline from a fever dream.

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It was a media firestorm. It was the biggest

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story in Mexico for months. It completely shocked

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the nation. But then, of course, came the legal

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process, starting with the interrogation. And

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did she confess to everything? It was. Yeah.

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Complicated. She immediately confessed to murdering

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Ana Maria Los Reyes Alfaro. I mean, she was caught

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right there. And she admitted to three other

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murders. Okay, so she gives them four. But they

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suspect her of what? Close to 50? Exactly. She

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flatly denied any involvement in the other killings

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that were attributed to La Mataviejitas. She

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tried to draw a line in the sand. It was like

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she was saying, yes, I do these specific things,

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but I am not that monster from the newspapers.

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But the physical evidence tells a different story.

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The physical evidence doesn't lie. Prosecutors

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were able to link her fingerprints to at least

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10 of the murder scenes, maybe more. The forensic

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evidence was overwhelming, regardless of what

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she was willing to admit. So we fast forward

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to the verdict. This was in 2008. Yes. The trial

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concluded in the spring of 2008. She was ultimately

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found guilty on 16 counts of murder and aggravated

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burglary. 16 convictions. And the sentence for

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that. The judge handed down a sentence of 759

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years in prison. 759 years, which is obviously

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a symbolic number. It is. In the Mexican legal

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system, there's no death penalty, and there aren't

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life without parole sentences in the way the

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U .S. has them. The maximum effective sentence

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a person can serve is capped. At the time, I

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believe it was 60 years. So for a woman who was

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in her late 40s when she was sentenced, 60 years

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is a life sentence. It's a life sentence. She

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will die in prison. There's no question about

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that. So justice is served. The case is closed.

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The city can breathe a sigh of relief. Officially,

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yes. The authorities formally closed the Matavihides

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investigation after her conviction. But, and

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it's a very big but, that left over 30 unresolved

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cases that were initially linked to the same

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killer profile. So what happens to those families?

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Do they just get told, well, we're pretty sure

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she did it, but we can't prove it. So that's

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that. That's essentially what happens. It leaves

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this lingering cloud of ambiguity for dozens

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of families who may never get legal closure.

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And you have to remember, Barraza wasn't the

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only suspect ever arrested. At one point in 2005,

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the police arrested two other people, a man and

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a woman, and the media even identified them as

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the killer for a time. So it was a messy investigation

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from start to finish. A very messy conclusion

00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:31.650
to a very messy case. But there was no doubt

00:24:31.650 --> 00:24:33.869
that Barraza was the one. She fit the profile,

00:24:34.109 --> 00:24:36.609
the fingerprints, the timeline, and the sheer

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scale of the crimes. So where is the Lady of

00:24:39.329 --> 00:24:41.990
Silence today? She's serving her sentence at

00:24:41.990 --> 00:24:44.309
the Santa Martha Acatitl Women's Prison in Mexico

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City. And her life behind bars is, well, it's

00:24:48.809 --> 00:24:51.089
surprisingly mundane. Mundane, after all that

00:24:51.089 --> 00:24:53.509
violence and chaos. According to reports from

00:24:53.509 --> 00:24:55.789
inside the prison, she works as a gym instructor

00:24:55.789 --> 00:24:58.109
for the other inmates. Well, I guess that makes

00:24:58.109 --> 00:24:59.650
sense. She's the wrestler. She knows her way

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around a gym. And she also runs a small business.

00:25:01.809 --> 00:25:04.029
She sells tacos to other prisoners. I'm sorry.

00:25:04.089 --> 00:25:07.329
She sells tacos in prison. She runs a small taqueria

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inside the prison to earn money to support her

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family on the outside. It's this bizarre return

00:25:12.569 --> 00:25:14.710
to domesticity. She's cooking. She's serving

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food. She even got married while in prison to

00:25:17.130 --> 00:25:18.730
another inmate, though they divorced a couple

00:25:18.730 --> 00:25:21.829
of years later. It's just... It is so hard to

00:25:21.829 --> 00:25:24.289
wrap your head around that. This person who brutally

00:25:24.289 --> 00:25:27.089
murdered at least 16 elderly women with her bare

00:25:27.089 --> 00:25:29.829
hands, and now she's known for her tacos and

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for running a fitness class. It brings you right

00:25:32.369 --> 00:25:34.849
back to the deep irony of her wrestling name,

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La Dama del Silencio. The Lady of Silence. She

00:25:39.339 --> 00:25:42.319
chose a name that evokes quiet and mystery. Yet

00:25:42.319 --> 00:25:45.240
she created more noise, more panic, more media

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hysteria than almost any other criminal in modern

00:25:48.539 --> 00:25:51.059
Mexican history. And that contrast between the

00:25:51.059 --> 00:25:53.700
absolute banality of her prison life, now selling

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tacos, and the sheer monstrosity of her crimes.

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Yeah. It's jarring. It's a powerful reminder

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that monsters don't usually look like monsters.

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They look like people. They have jobs and hobbies

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and relationships. And sometimes they sell tacos.

00:26:06.160 --> 00:26:08.029
So let's try. to pull this all together. If we're

00:26:08.029 --> 00:26:09.869
looking for the key takeaways from this whole

00:26:09.869 --> 00:26:12.470
dark saga, what are they? I think first, you

00:26:12.470 --> 00:26:14.529
have to start with the sheer audacity of the

00:26:14.529 --> 00:26:17.809
deception. A professional wrestler convincingly

00:26:17.809 --> 00:26:21.009
posing as a caring social worker. It's a masterclass

00:26:21.009 --> 00:26:23.549
in manipulation and reading people's vulnerabilities.

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And second, you absolutely cannot overlook the

00:26:26.650 --> 00:26:29.329
failures of the investigation. The gender bias

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was not just a small mistake. It was the central

00:26:32.109 --> 00:26:34.690
flaw that allowed Barraza to keep killing for

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years. It led to the harassment of an innocent

00:26:37.750 --> 00:26:40.630
community and let the real killer walk free.

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And finally, there's that tragic, vicious cycle

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of violence. A story that starts with a little

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girl being sold for three beers. That trauma

00:26:50.240 --> 00:26:52.279
doesn't just disappear. It's festered and it

00:26:52.279 --> 00:26:55.160
mutated and it turned into a rage that she then

00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:57.140
unleashed upon the most vulnerable people she

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could find. It's just a tragedy from every single

00:26:59.819 --> 00:27:02.039
angle for the victims, for their families, and

00:27:02.039 --> 00:27:04.319
in a very different way for the abused child

00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.740
the killer once was. Exactly. It's a story with

00:27:06.740 --> 00:27:08.460
no light in it, really. Before we wrap this up,

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I want to leave you, our listeners, with one

00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:12.519
final thing to think about. We talked about that

00:27:12.519 --> 00:27:14.980
painting, the boy in a red waistcoat. The great

00:27:14.980 --> 00:27:17.480
red herring. Yeah. The official line is that

00:27:17.480 --> 00:27:20.759
it was a random coincidence. Right. But I keep

00:27:20.759 --> 00:27:23.640
coming back to it. Three victims in a city of

00:27:23.640 --> 00:27:27.319
millions all owned a print of the same obscure

00:27:27.319 --> 00:27:30.680
18th century painting. It does nag at you, doesn't

00:27:30.680 --> 00:27:32.519
it? It feels too neat to be random. It really

00:27:32.519 --> 00:27:36.119
does. So was it truly just a statistical fluke?

00:27:36.410 --> 00:27:39.049
Or could it suggest something deeper, a pattern

00:27:39.049 --> 00:27:41.730
in the victim's socioeconomic status or their

00:27:41.730 --> 00:27:43.769
taste or even their generation that the killer

00:27:43.769 --> 00:27:46.750
was subconsciously drawn to? Maybe she saw that

00:27:46.750 --> 00:27:48.789
kind of art as a signifier of a certain type

00:27:48.789 --> 00:27:51.769
of lonely older woman. It raises a much bigger

00:27:51.769 --> 00:27:54.730
question, which is how many other patterns in

00:27:54.730 --> 00:27:57.069
unsolved cases have been missed because they

00:27:57.069 --> 00:27:59.490
were dismissed as mere coincidence? And the most

00:27:59.490 --> 00:28:02.019
chilling thought of all? How many other cases

00:28:02.019 --> 00:28:04.359
are out there right now anywhere in the world

00:28:04.359 --> 00:28:06.519
that remain unsolved simply because the person

00:28:06.519 --> 00:28:08.779
responsible doesn't fit the neat little profile

00:28:08.779 --> 00:28:10.480
the investigators have drawn up in their heads?

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That's the thought that will keep you up at night.
