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Okay, let's just dive right in. I want you to,

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for a second, just visualize a map of North America.

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Unless you're driving, of course. Please don't

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close your eyes if you're driving. Right. But

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for everyone else, picture the East Coast, the

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Canadian North. What names just, you know, jump

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out at you? Well, you can't miss them, really.

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There's the Hudson River slicing right past Manhattan.

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A pretty big landmark. Huge. And then you have

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the colossal Hudson Bay, which just dominates

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the map of Canada. Then, of course, the Hudson

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Strait, Hudson County, the Henry Hudson Bridge.

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His name is everywhere. It's like it's literally

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carved into the bedrock of the continent. It

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is. You can't navigate the geography or the history

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of the Western Hemisphere without tripping over

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his name. But this is where the story gets...

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Incredibly strange. Yeah. And honestly, it's

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a little unsettling. The man himself. He's a

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ghost. A complete ghost. It's one of the most

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profound ironies in the history of exploration.

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I mean, we're talking about a figure who is just

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monumental. Yeah. Geographically, commercially.

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Culturally. Absolutely. And yet, if you try to

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find Henry Hudson, the person, you know, what

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drove him, his background, even what he looked

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like, he just evaporates. We have no portrait

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of him. We don't really know where he was born.

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And the ending of his story. See? It's not the

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typical hero returns home to a parade narrative,

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to put it mildly. No, this is a mystery. It's

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a story about obsession. And ultimately, it's

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this terrifying story about a very cold, very

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lonely end. It really is. It's the story of this

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brilliant, maybe obsessive navigator who is cast

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adrift by his own men. In a tiny open boat. In

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the middle of the frozen Arctic, never to be

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seen by Europeans again. That image, just the

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sheer silence of it, has always stuck with me.

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So our mission for this deep dive is to try and

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track down this lost navigator. We're going to

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look at how his obsession with the Northwest

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Passage, and the Northeast Passage for that matter,

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how it accidentally redrew the map of the world.

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And we're going to have to dig into the ship

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laws, the court testimonies, and all the modern

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analysis to figure it out. Not just what he found,

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but maybe why he lost everything. And we have

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to be really careful with those sources, right?

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Because as we'll see, the people telling this

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story had a... a very vested interest in making

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Henry Hudson look bad. Or at least, you know,

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deserving of his fate. Exactly. History is written

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by the survivors, even if the survivors are mutineers.

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So let's start at the beginning. Or I guess the

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lack of a beginning. You said he's a ghost. What

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do we actually know about Hudson before he steps

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onto a ship in 1607? Almost nothing. It is genuinely

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bizarre. I mean, usually with figures of this

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magnitude, think Drake or Raleigh or Columbus.

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We have birth records. We have family letters,

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something. Right. There's a paper trail. There

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is. With Hudson, he enters the historical record

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in 1607 as a fully formed middle -aged man. He's

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already a captain. He's already experienced.

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He just pops into existence at age 40. Essentially,

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yes. Historians speculate he was born around

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1565, probably in London. There's this persistent

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theory that his father might have been a wealthy

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alderman, a founding member of the Muscovy Company.

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Ah, which would explain the connections. It would

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explain a lot. But it's all circumstantial. We

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don't know his education. We don't know where

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he learned to sail. But he must have had some

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serious credentials. I mean, you don't just walk

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up to a major trading conglomerate like the Muscovy

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Company and say, hey, give me a ship. I want

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to go sail to the North Pole. Precisely. When

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he first appears, he's being hired by the Muscovy

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Company of London. And this was, you know, one

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of the most powerful joint start companies in

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the world. They wouldn't trust a novice with

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that kind of capital. So what was the mission?

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Because this is the part of the research that

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really stopped me in my tracks. The plan wasn't

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just go explore north. No, it was much more specific.

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frankly, scientifically wild. They wanted to

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sail right over the top of the world. Yes. The

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goal was to reach Catheso, China, and the Spice

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Islands by sailing directly across the North

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Pole. Now, to a modern listener, that sounds

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insane. We know the North Pole is, or at least

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it was, a permanent ice cap. Why on earth did

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a group of wealthy, educated London merchants

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think you could sail a wooden ship across it?

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Well, this is where we have to kind of get into

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the headspace of 17th century science. They weren't

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stupid. They just had a different understanding

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of physics. Okay. There was a prevailing theory

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championed by cartographers like Robert Thorne

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that the Arctic was only frozen at the edges.

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Like a ring of ice. Exactly. And the logic was

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based on the midnight sun. They knew that during

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the Arctic summer, the sun doesn't set for months.

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It's shining 24 hours a day. Right. So they theorized

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that this constant solar energy would generate

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enough heat to melt the ice at the high latitudes.

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So they thought if you could just punch through

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that outer rim of ice, you'd sail into a warm,

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maybe even tropical polar sea. That was the dream.

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A polinia, an open polar sea. They believed the

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constant friction of the ocean currents and the

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relentless sun would keep the top of the world

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open. can see why it was so seductive. Oh, absolutely.

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A direct route to China, shaving off thousands

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of miles. A straight line north. It would change

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the world economy overnight. It's a beautiful

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theory. Logically sound, if you just ignore thermodynamics.

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Right. So Hudson buys into this. He takes a ship,

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the Hopewell. Which was not a large vessel. Oh,

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tiny. About 80 tons. He takes a crew of 10 men

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and one boy, his own son, John. And on May 1st,

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1607, they set sail to test this open polar sea

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theory. They head straight for the ice. They

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reach the coast of Greenland in mid -May. And

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this is where we start to see Hudson the Explorer

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at work. He's meticulous. He's mapping. He's

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naming things. He names a Young's Cape and a

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Mount of God's Mercy. Mount of God's Mercy sounds

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like the name you come up with when you're already

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in serious trouble. It really does. It implies

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they were navigating through some pretty dangerous

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waters. For sure. They pushed further north,

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reaching what they called Newland, which we now

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know is Spitsbergen or Small Bard. They made

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it incredibly far north. He even named a spot

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Hold With Hope. Hold With Hope. Wow. The names

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alone really tell the psychological story of

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the crew. They do, and they managed to reach

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roughly 80 degrees north latitude. Hudson himself

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estimated they went even higher, maybe 82 degrees.

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Which was probably a bit of an exaggeration.

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Modern analysis suggests he was slightly off,

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you know, due to the primitive instruments. But

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it doesn't matter. Getting an 80 -ton wooden

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boat to 80 degrees north is an incredible feat

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of seamanship. You have to imagine the conditions.

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Fog, shifting pack ice, the rigging freezing

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solid. It's terrifying. But the theory, the big

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beautiful theory, was just wrong. Completely

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wrong. As they pushed north, the ice... didn't

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thin out. It got thicker. They finally hit the

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polar ice pack. There was no warm sea. There

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was just a wall of white. So the mission to cross

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the pole is a failure. But this voyage isn't

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a total loss, is it? Because in his logs, Hudson

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mentioned something else, something he saw in

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the water. Yes. While he's dodging all these

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icebergs, he notes that the waters around Spitsbergen

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are teeming with whales. Great numbers of whales

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is how he puts it in the log. And that one little

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sentence basically launches an economic gold

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rush. It does. Hudson didn't find spices, but

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he found oil. His report, and the credit is sometimes

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debated between him and another explorer, a guy

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named Jonas Poole, but his report effectively

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kickstarts the Arctic whaling industry. Within

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a few years, the Dutch, the English, the French,

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the Spanish, they're all swarming those waters.

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They nearly hunt the bowhead whale to extinction

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in that region. It's the law of unintended consequences.

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He goes looking for a shortcut to silk and spices,

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and instead he lights up the street lamps of

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London with whale oil. Exactly. And that brings

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us to the end of the 1607 voyage. He returns

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to England, having failed to find the passage,

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but having proven he could navigate the ice better

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than almost anyone else alive at the time. Which

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buys him another shot. So 1608, he's back in

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the same ship, the Hopewell. Right. And the Muscovy

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Company is still backing him, but they've kind

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of cooled on the whole North Pole idea. I'd imagine

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so. The over -the -top theory is busted. So they

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pivot. They pivot to the Northeast Passage. The

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idea is to sail east, over the top of Scandinavia

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and Russia, and then come down into the Pacific

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that way. Which, spoiler alert, is also incredibly

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difficult. It's the Northern Sea Route. Even

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today, with nuclear icebreakers, it's not exactly

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a leisure cruise. And in a wooden sailing ship.

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It was brutal. Hudson made it to Novaya Zemlya,

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which is a long archipelago in the Arctic Ocean,

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just north of Russia. But just like the year

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before, they hit the ice. I feel like a pattern

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is emerging here. Hudson is a very capable, technical

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sailor. He gets the ship to the very edge of

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the known world. But he keeps running into the

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physical reality that the world is much, much

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colder than the investors in London think it

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is. The ice always wins in this era. He tried

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everything. He tried to ram the ice. He tried

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to sail along the edge of it. But by July, it

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was clear there was no way through. He had to

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turn back. Now, there's a weird footnote about

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this 1608 voyage. You see it in some older history

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books. This claim that Hudson discovered Jan

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Mayen Island. Right. You'll see references to

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a place called Hudson's Touches. But this is

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almost certainly a myth. Why do you say that?

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Well, if you actually plot his course from the

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1608 logs, hitting Yan Mayan would have required

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a massive, completely illogical detour that he

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just didn't have time for. Plus, his own journal

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doesn't mention it at all. So it's just people

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wanting to credit him with everything they could.

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I think so. He was becoming a celebrity explorer.

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It's like how every witty quote gets attributed

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to Mark Twain or Winston Churchill. Every island

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in the north got attributed to Hudson for a while.

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So 1608 is another bust. He comes back to London

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and the Muscovy Company, I'm guessing they're

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done right. They've spent a lot of money for

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two trips that went nowhere. They lose faith.

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They basically tell him, look, Henry, you're

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a great sailor, but this just isn't working.

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They cut his funding. But Hudson isn't the kind

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of guy who just retires to a cottage. He's obsessed.

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And this leads to what I think is the most fascinating

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pivot in his career. The 1609 voyage. The rogue

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voyage. Exactly. Because he doesn't sail for

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England this time. No. He crosses the channel.

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He goes to the rivals. He gets hired by the VOC,

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the Dutch East India Company. And we really need

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to contextualize the VOC for a second. This isn't

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just a company. This is like Google, Amazon and

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the U .S. Navy all rolled into one. They were

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the first global megacorporation. They had their

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own army, their own currency, the power to wage

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war. And they were in a fierce trade war with

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England. So for Hudson and Englishmen to go work

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for them. It was borderline craziness. It certainly

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wasn't looked upon kindly back in London. But

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the Dutch hire him. They give him a new ship,

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the famous half -mean, the half -moon. And what

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are his orders? This is critical. His contract

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was very, very specific. The VOC directors in

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Amsterdam were conservative. They told him, try

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the Northeast Passage again. Go back to the place

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where you just failed last time. Essentially,

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yes. Go back to Novaya Zemlya. Try to find the

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route over Russia. So Hudson sets off in April

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1609. He gets near the North Cape of Norway,

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and surprise, surprise, he hits ice. Heavy storms.

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The crew, which was a mix of Dutch and English

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sailors who couldn't even understand each other,

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they start getting mutinous. So most captains

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in this situation have two choices. Go home and

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face the music or keep banging their head against

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the ice. But Hudson takes option C. He goes rogue.

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He commits what is essentially grand larceny

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and corporate disobedience. He ignores his orders.

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He proposes a new plan to the crew. He turns

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the half moon around. But instead of heading

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back to Amsterdam, he points the ship west. Across

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the Atlantic. Right. Towards North America. He

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just decides to freelance. He had been corresponding

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with his friend Captain John Smith. Yes, the

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John Smith from Jamestown. No way. Yes. And Smith

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had sent him a map and some rumors that there

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was a passage through the North American continent

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somewhere around 40 degrees latitude. So he bets

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his life, his crew, and a stolen Dutch ship.

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on a rumor from John Smith. It was a massive

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gamble. If he found the passage to Asia, the

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Dutch would forgive him. He'd be a hero. If he

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failed, well, he'd be a mutineer who stole a

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company asset. So they crossed the Atlantic.

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They reached the Grand Banks of Newfoundland

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in July. And this is where we need to talk about

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Hudson's leadership style, especially with the

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indigenous people they meet, because the logs

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came to a pretty disturbing picture. They do,

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and it often gets glossed over in the heroic

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explorer narrative. They land near what is now

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Le Havre in Nova Scotia to repair a broken mast.

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The indigenous people there, likely the Mi 'kmaq,

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were actually quite accustomed to Europeans.

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They had been trading with French fishermen for

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decades. So they came out to the ship ready to

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trade beaver pelts. So this wasn't a hostile

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first contact. It was a business opportunity.

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It started that way. But Hudson's crew was on

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edge. And on July 25th, the log records a really

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shocking escalation. Hudson's mate writes that

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they took the ship's boat, loaded it with 12

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men armed with muskets and a murderer. Which

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is type of small cannon, right? A small cannon,

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yes. And they went ashore. They assaulted the

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village, drove the people into the woods and

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stole their boat and all their goods. That is

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just straight up piracy. Why? Why did they do

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that? The log is vague. It suggests they feared

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the natives were stealing from them. But the

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response is so disproportionate. It really shows

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that Hudson either had very little control over

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his men or he condoned this kind of violence.

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And that lack of discipline that's going to come

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back to haunt him. Big time. So they loot the

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village and they flee south. They cruise down

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the coast past Cape Cod all the way to the Chesapeake

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Bay. And then they turn back north looking for

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this magical passage Smith told him about. And

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on September 3rd, 1609, they find it. A massive

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break in the coastline. A huge river estuary.

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The Hudson. The Hudson. Now, he wasn't the first

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European to see it. Verrazzano spotted it in

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1524. But Hudson is the one who actually sails

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into it. And you can see why he got so excited.

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Oh, yeah. The river is wide. The water's salty.

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The tides are strong. Well, it looks like a straight.

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It looks like the way to the Pacific. But again,

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the violence follows them. Just days after arriving,

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they have a skirmish with the Lenape people.

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Yes, a small boat crew was returning to the half

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moon when they were attacked. A sailor named

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John Coleman was shot in the neck with an arrow

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and died. Which should have been a sign to maybe,

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you know, leave. You'd think. But Hudson presses

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on. And strangely, the relations with the local

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people fluctuate wildly. One day they are shooting

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at each other. The next day, Hudson is going

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ashore, drinking with the chiefs, trading knives

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for oysters and beans. It sounds completely chaotic.

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Yeah. But they keep sailing upriver, past Manhattan,

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past the Palisades, all the way up to where Albany

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is today. And this is the heartbreak moment of

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the 1609 voyage. As they sail north, the river

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starts to narrow. The water, which was salty

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at Manhattan, turns brackish, and then it turns

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fresh. And fresh water means? It means it's a

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river. It's draining a continent, not cutting

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through it. It's a dead end. Wow. Imagine the

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mood on that ship. They've risked everything.

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Crossed an ocean, fought battles, sailed 150

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miles inland, only to realize they were in Albany,

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not China. It must have been crushing. On September

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23rd, they turn around. Hudson has failed to

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find the passage again. But this is the key for

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the listener. Even though he considered it a

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failure, this voyage changed the world. Absolutely.

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Hudson noted the rich land, the timber, and most

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importantly, the furs. The beaver pelts. When

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the Dutch finally got his logs, they didn't care

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about the route to China anymore. They saw a

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commercial empire. Exactly. Because of Hudson's

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failure, we get New Netherland, we get New Amsterdam,

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and eventually we get New York City. History

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is so weird. He fails to do what he wanted, but

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he accidentally founds the capital of the modern

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world. It's failing up on a geopolitical scale.

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So he sails back. But he doesn't go back to Amsterdam,

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does he? No, and this is a bit suspicious. He

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lands in Dartmouth, England. Some historians

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think the English sailors on the crew forced

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him to land there. Others think Hudson was just

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done with the Dutch. Either way, the English

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authorities immediately detain him. They ground

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him. They say, you are an Englishman. You should

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not be sailing for foreign powers. They forbade

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him from leaving the country. But his maps and

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logs still made their way back to the Dutch.

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they did which secured their claim but now hudson

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is back in london and the english merchants the

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virginia company the british east india company

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they look at his logs and they think okay he

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failed but he found something interesting they're

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ready to roll the dice one more time and this

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sets the stage for the final act the fatal journey

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of 1610 they give him a ship The Discovery. The

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Discovery. It's a small ship, right? Very small.

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About 55 tons. And he assembles a crew. But this

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crew, there are some bad apples in the barrel

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right from day one. Who are the key players we

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need to know about? Well, there's Robert Jewett,

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the elderly mate who had been with him on the

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half moon. He was cynical, bitter, and had already

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shown signs of being insubordinate. Okay. And

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then there's Henry Green. Green is a character

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straight out of a Dickens novel. He was a young

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man from a good family, but he was a bit of a

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scoundrel. Hudson apparently knew his family

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or had taken pity on him. Green wasn't a sailor.

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He was more of a clerk or a guest on the ship.

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And Hudson protected him. He did. Gave him a

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good bunk. Treated him almost like a son. Which

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makes his eventual betrayal even more hideous.

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So they sail in April 1610. They head northwest.

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They round the tip of Greenland and enter the

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furious waters of what we now call the Hudson

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Strait. And this is a nightmare stretch of water.

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It's narrow, the currents are violent, and it's

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just choked with ice. Most captains would have

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turned back. But not Hudson. Hudson forced the

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discovery through. He was absolutely relentless.

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And then... The breakthrough. On August 2nd,

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the ship bursts out of the strait and into this

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vast, open body of water. To the west, the horizon

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is just water. They must have thought, this is

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it. The Pacific Ocean. They were ecstatic. They

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turned south, sailing into this massive inland

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sea. They spent months exploring the eastern

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shore, expecting to find palm trees or a route

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to Japan any day. But it wasn't the Pacific.

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It was Hudson Bay. A giant cul -de -sac. The

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biggest dead end in the world. And as they sailed

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south into what's now James Bay, the days got

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shorter. The temperature just plummeted. They

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were running out of time. And in November, the

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trap snapped shut. The ice formed around the

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ship. They were frozen in. They had to haul the

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discovery onto the shore or risk it being crushed

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by the ice. They were stranded in the Canadian

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subarctic for the winter. We have to talk about

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the psychology of this. It's dark for months.

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It's 40 degrees below zero. They're living in

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a wooden hut. covered in moss what happens to

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the minds of these men he turns toxic scurvy

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sets in their teeth are falling out their joints

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are swelling they're running out of food and

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they start to blame hudson for everything and

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hudson doesn't handle it well no he hoards some

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of the food he accuses men of stealing he demotes

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his loyal officers and promotes the troublemakers

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he just completely loses control and splits the

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crew into factions and loses the room completely

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and as spring finally approaches the big question

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becomes What do we do when the ice melts and

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the crew just wants to survive? They want to

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go home. We ardently desire to return, as the

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record says. But Hudson. Hudson is still chasing

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the ghost. He still believes that if they just

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sail a little further west, they'll find the

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passage. He starts talking about restocking supplies

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and continuing the search. And for the crew,

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that's a death sentence. It is. They look at

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this man who has led them into this frozen hell,

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and they decide he is going to kill every last

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one of them if they don't stop him. So, June

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1611. The ice breaks up. The ship is afloat again.

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And the whispers start. The plot is hatched by

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Henry Green, the young man Hudson had saved from

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the streets, and Robert Jewett, the bitter old

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mate. The betrayal. How did it actually go down?

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It was early in the morning. Hudson comes out

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of his cabin. And the mutineers grab him immediately.

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They bind his arms behind his back. Did anyone

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try to fight for him? A few did. The ship's carpenter,

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a man named Philip Staff, is the real hero of

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this story. He wasn't on the mutineers list to

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be marooned, but he looked at them and basically

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said, I'd rather go down with the captain than

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live with you lot. Wow. He voluntarily got into

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the boat with Hudson. That is just incredible

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integrity. So they lower the small open boat.

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into the water and they throw in hudson they

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throw in his teenage son john and then they throw

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in the sick men the ones suffering from scurvy

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who were useless to the crew a truly brutal move

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what did they give them I mean, do they just

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toss them out there with nothing at all? It was

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a weirdly specific inventory. Prickett, the survivor

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who wrote the only journal we have, says they

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gave them a fouling piece, like a shotgun, some

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powder, and shot a few pikes and an iron pot.

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The iron pot. That detail always gets me. It's

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such a domestic, mundane object. Like, here,

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you can boil some water while you freeze to death.

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It's a gesture that feels like it's born from

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kilt. See? We aren't murdering you, we're giving

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you a chance. But it was murder. So the Discovery

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pulls up its anchor, and the shallop is in the

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water. And this is the most chilling part of

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the entire account. The men in the shallop, they

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start rowing. They try to keep up with the big

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ship. They are literally chasing their only hope

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of survival. But the mutineers don't wait. No.

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They unfurl the topsails. The Discovery catches

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the wind and just pulls away. Prickett writes

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that they watched the shallop until it was just

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a speck on the horizon, and then it was gone.

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And... That is the last time Henry Hudson was

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ever seen by a European. Silence just returns

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to the bay. Okay, now we need to put on our detective

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hats. Because everything we just described, the

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mutiny, the items in the boat, their final chase,

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it all comes from one main source. A backup Prickett's

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journal. And Prickett is not an unbiased observer.

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Not even close. He's a guy who is trying to save

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his own neck. Right. You have to remember the

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legal context here. Mutiny is a capital offense.

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In England, you hang for it. So when the Discovery

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finally limped back to London, crude, by just

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a handful of starving skeletons, they knew they

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were walking into a trial for their lives. So

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Prickett writes a journal that conveniently blames

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everything on the two guys who are already dead.

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It's the perfect defense. Oh, it was Henry Green

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and Robert Jewett. They were the ringleaders.

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They forced us to do it. And where were Green

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and Jewett? Dead. Green was killed in a fight

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with Inuit further north on the journey home.

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And Jewett died of starvation just days before

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they reached Ireland. How convenient. Incredibly

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convenient. The ringleaders are dead, so the

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survivors can all say we were just innocent bystanders.

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And it worked. They were put on trial, but no

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one was ever executed for the mutiny. No one.

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Why? Was it just a lack of evidence? Partly.

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But frankly, the London merchants were pragmatic.

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These men had just been to the Hudson Bay. They

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knew the route. They knew where the furs were.

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Executing them would mean losing that intellectual

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property. They were too valuable to hang. It's

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cynical, but it's practical. But this leaves

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us with the big question. Prickett says they

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left them and they just vanished. But are there

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other clues? Clues that the story didn't end

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right there in the bay? There are. And this is

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where we get into the realm of speculation, but

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it's fascinating. There is the captive scone.

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Tell me about this stone. It was found in the

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1950s by a road crew near Deep River, Ontario,

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which is about 600 kilometers south of where

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Hudson was marooned. That's a long way. It's

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a huge distance. And it's this massive slab of

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rock with crude carvings on it. What does it

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say? It has the initials HH. Year 1612 and the

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single word captive. 1612. That's a full year

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after the mutiny. And captive suggests he wasn't

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free. Now, I have to be the skepticism police

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here. Of course. The authenticity of this stone

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is heavily, heavily debated. The Geological Survey

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of Canada analyzed it. And while the weathering

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looks consistent with age, there's no way to

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carbon date a chisel mark. It could be a very

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elaborate hoax. But if it's real? If it's real,

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it implies Hudson, or at least someone from that

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boat, survived the winter, traveled hundreds

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of miles south down the river systems, and was

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being held by a local tribe. It paints a picture

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of a desperate struggle for survival that lasted

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much longer than we think. And there's another

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source, isn't there? One that's maybe even more

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compelling. The Inuit oral history. Yes. This

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is, to me, just incredible. In the 1990s, a researcher

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named Dorothy Harley Eber interviewed Inuit elders

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in the region, and they shared stories that had

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been passed down for nearly 400 years. What was

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the story they told? They spoke of a small boat

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arriving with strange men, and specifically,

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they describe an old man with a long white beard

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and a young boy. That has to be Hudson and his

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son, John. The description is uncanny. The Inuit

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had never seen white men before? The story goes

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that the men were starving. The Inuit took them

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in. They fed them. So they didn't die immediately

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on the water. According to this oral history,

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no. But the ending. It's tragic in a whole different

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way. The story says the old man eventually died

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of illness or exhaustion. And the boy. What happened

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to the boy? The Inuit adopted him, but they were

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afraid he would try to run away and die in the

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snow. So what did they do? The story says they

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tethered him to the lodge. Like a pet or... Or

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a precious object they didn't want to lose? That

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is. That's haunting. A teenage English boy, alone

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at the end of the world, tied to a post while

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his father lies dead nearby. It's a heartbreaking

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image, and while we can't prove it 100%, it aligns

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with the timeline and the location better than

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any other theory we have. What a heavy legacy.

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The man appears from absolutely nowhere, and

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he disappears into the snow, leaving only these

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faint, tragic echoes. And a map. Right. Let's

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zoom out for the takeaway. Hudson failed, right?

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By every metric his employers set for him, he

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was a disaster. He lost ships. He alienated crews.

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He never found the passage to Asia. A perfect

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record of failure. And yet, he is arguably one

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of the most consequential explorers of the millennium.

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Because he opened the door. His failure in New

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York created the Dutch foothold that became the

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economic engine of America. His failure in the

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North opened up Hudson Bay, which led directly

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to the Hudson's Bay Company. And that company

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dominated the fur trade for two centuries and

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effectively drew the borders of modern Canada.

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He was the ultimate disruptor. He broke everything

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he touched, but the pieces landed in a way that

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built the modern world. He died searching for

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a shortcut, completely unaware that his name

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would be immortalized on the maps of two nations.

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He wanted to find China. Instead, he found New

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York and Canada. I want to leave the listener

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with that final image. The discovery sailing

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away. The sails filling with wind. The distance

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growing between the big ship and that tiny, tiny

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shallop. And the question of what was said in

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those final moments. If Prickett was lying to

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save his own neck. If the true didn't just sail

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away cleanly. What really happened on that deck?

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Was there a fight? Did Hudson beg? Or did he

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just sit there, stern and silent, watching his

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command, his son, and his entire world disappear

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over the horizon? That is the secret the ice

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keeps. Indeed. Thanks for diving deep with us

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today. This has been The Deep Dive. Catch you

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on the next one.
