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Canada, it's a word we all know. You hear it

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and you picture this vast country, right? Second

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largest in the world. Maple leaves, the whole

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thing. A G7 nation, multicultural cities, immense

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forests. It's a word with a huge modern meaning.

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Exactly. But if you peel back all of that history,

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all that modern context, the word itself comes

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from, well, a mistake. It's a misunderstanding

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of a Huron -Iroquois word. It means village.

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Just village. It's incredible. It might just

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be the most successful typo in history. Think

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about it. A word for a small group of houses

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ends up on a map covering almost 10 million square

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kilometers. And the man who made that mistake,

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Jacques Cartier, he didn't even want a village.

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He was looking for something much, much bigger.

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He was looking for China. For the Spice Islands,

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he was part of that great European push west,

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trying to find a shortcut to the riches of Asia.

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Canada was, to him, just an obstacle. And that's

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what we're getting into today. We're doing a

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deep dive into the source material around Jacques

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Cartier, his own ship logs, contemporary accounts,

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and the historical context of 16th century France.

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Our mission here is to really unpack the story

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of his three big voyages. This is a man who promised

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his king gold, diamonds, and a route to Asia.

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And what he delivered was... a really big river

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some shiny rocks and one of the worst winters

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imaginable it is a perfect story of expectation

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just colliding head -on with reality but when

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you look at the logs what really comes through

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is the psychology of it all What do you mean?

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The psychology of the explorer. You see how desperate

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they were to find what they were sent to find?

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They would look at a frozen Canadian river, completely

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impassable, and convince themselves it was the

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highway to Shanghai. And it's not just a story

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about getting lost. It's about the human element.

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We're going to get into the kidnappings, the

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fool's gold, and the... incredibly complex and

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often tragic relationship with the indigenous

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peoples he met. It is a messy, messy story. Cartier

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gets held up as this great discoverer. But the

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sources show us a man who is often in way over

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his head, frequently improvising and making some

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really questionable moral choices. So let's start

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at the beginning. Before he's got a bridge, the

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name on a bridge or a park who was Jacques Cartier,

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the notes put him in Saint -Malo, which I understand

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was a bit of a... A rough and tumble place. Oh,

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absolutely. Understanding Saint -Malo is key

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to understanding Cartier. It's this granite fortress

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of a city on the coast of Brittany. And in the

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16th century, it wasn't just a fishing town.

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It was a nest of corsairs. So pirates. State

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-sanctioned pirates, which is an important distinction.

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Privateers. These were sailors who were legally

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allowed by the king to raid enemy shipping. So

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if you grew up in St. Paul, you grew up in a

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culture of very aggressive, very skilled seamanship.

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You had to be tough. But Cartier himself wasn't

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a corsair, was he? The records make him sound

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a bit more respectable. He was. He was born in

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1491, not into nobility, but he was a striver.

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He was ambitious. The real turning point for

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his social status was his marriage in 1520 to

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a woman named Mary Catherine de Grange. And her

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family was a step up. A big step up. They were

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aristocratic. It was the classic move of marrying

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into a higher social class, and it worked for

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him. If you look at the local records from Sam

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Lowe after that, his name starts popping up all

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over the place as a godfather, as a witness at

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important events. He's becoming a man of influence.

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Exactly. He's building a reputation as a respectable,

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trustworthy mariner. And in that world, that

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trust was the currency you needed to get command

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of a ship, let alone a royal expedition. So how

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does he make that jump? From trusted local guy

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in Saint -Malo to standing in front of the king

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of France, Francis I, asking for ships, that's

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a huge leap. He had a patron, a man named Jean

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Levenor, who was the bishop of Saint -Malo and

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an abbot at Mont Saint -Michel. A very powerful

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man. He basically arranged the introduction.

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He went to the king and vouched for Cartier.

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And what was his pitch? Levenor told the king

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that Cartier was an experienced navigator who

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had already been to the New World, probably on

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fishing trips to Newfoundland or even as far

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as Brazil. And he said Cartier was the man who

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could find the fabled Western Passage to Asia.

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You have to remember the context here. It's 1534.

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Spain is just drowning in wealth from the Americas.

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They're literally hauling silver and gold out

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of Mexico and Peru by the shipload. Fleets of

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it. And France is just watching this, feeling

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completely left out. A massive case of national

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FOMO. That's the perfect way to put it. Francis

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I famously complained that he wanted to see the

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clause in Adam's will that divided the world

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between Spain and Portugal and left France out.

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He wanted his share. So the commission he gives

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Cartier is very specific. Very. It wasn't go

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and map some new lands for science. The orders

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were crystal clear. Find a western route to the

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wealthy markets of the east. End quote. Discover

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certain islands and lands where it is said that

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a great quantity of gold and other precious things

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are to be found. Gold and spices. That's the

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engine of the whole enterprise. That's it. So

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Cartier sets off on his first voyage, April 20th,

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1534. And when you look at the log, he just flies

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across the Atlantic. How fast are we talking?

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20 days. Yeah. Which is astonishingly fast for

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a 16th century wooden ship. It really shows you

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he was a master of the North Atlantic winds and

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currents. This is not his first time out there.

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So he arrives off Newfoundland, sails through

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the Strait of Belle Isle, and enters the Gulf

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of St. Lawrence. And this is where we get one

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of those details from the logs that just makes

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you stop and shudder a bit. The Islands of the

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Birds. Yeah, yes. What are now called the Roche

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-aux -Oiseaux. The crew is low on fresh meat.

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They see these islands just covered in birds.

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Great ox, we now know. Flightless, defenseless

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birds. And the crew goes ashore. And they just

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unleash a slaughter. The log is very matter -of

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-fact about it. It says they killed about a thousand

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of them. A thousand. They filled two long boats

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with bird carcasses in under half an hour. Then

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they salted barrels and barrels of them for the

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rest of the voyage. To them, this wasn't an act

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of cruelty. It was just... stocking the pantry.

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It's just such a stark image of how they saw

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this new world, not as an ecosystem, but as a

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warehouse of resources there for the taking.

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The concept of conservation or ecological limits

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was completely alien to them. They saw an abundance

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that they assumed was infinite. Of course, we

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know the Great Auk is now extinct. So they stock

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up on birds and continue on, looking for people

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who can point the way to China. And they have

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a few encounters. On the north side of Shalura

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Bay, They meet a group, probably Micmac. There's

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some cautious trading. But the whole mood of

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the voyage changes when they sail into Gaspé

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Bay. This is where they meet the St. Lawrence

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Iroquoians. Yes. A large group of about 200 people

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who had come down from their main settlements

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upriver to fish for mackerel for the summer.

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Their leader is a chief named Donna Kona. And

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at first, things are okay, right? They are. The

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log describes some singing and dancing, gifts

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being exchanged. It's wary, but it's not hostile.

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But then, on July 24th, Cartier does something

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that completely changes the dynamic. He plants

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the cross. A massive one, 10 meters high that's

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over 30 feet. And he attaches a shield to it

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with the French fleur -de -lis and carves the

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words, Vive le roi de France. Long live the king

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of France. Now, did he think they wouldn't understand

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what that meant? Was it naive or was it a provocation?

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Oh, he knew what he was doing. And what's really

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fascinating is that Don Acona knew exactly what

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he was doing, too. He didn't need a translator

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for that symbol. Not at all. He saw this giant

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foreign totem being planted on his people's land.

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The sources say he got in his canoe, came out

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to Cartier's ship dressed in an old bearskin,

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and just let him have it. He made this long speech,

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pointing at the cross and then at the land around

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them, making it clear, this is ours. You can't

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just put up a big stick and claim it. And Cartier's

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response is, less than honest? It's pure deception.

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He invites them aboard, gives them food and drink,

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and tells them the cross is no big deal. It's

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just a landmark, a navigational beacon to help

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them find the harbor when they come back. Which

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is a complete lie. A total lie. But it calms

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the situation down enough for him to get close

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to Donacona's two sons, Domogaya and Tagadny.

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And this is where the first kidnapping takes

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place. He just grabs them. It's a bit more complex.

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He dresses them in French clothes, gives them

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gifts, and then essentially coerces their father

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into letting him take them to France. The deal,

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as Donacona understood it, was that they would

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be brought back the following year with a shipload

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of European goods. But just imagine being one

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of those sons. You've lived your whole life in

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a village on the St. Lawrence River, and now

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you're on this creaking wooden ship, sailing

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into a world you can't even conceive of. It had

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to be utterly terrifying. But for Cartier, they

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were his proof of concept. He could go back to

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the king, show him these two men, have them learn

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French, and get them to tell the king about the

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great river that led west. They were his ticket

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to a second voyage. And it worked like a charm.

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Because in May of 1535, he's back. And this time,

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he's not just exploring. He means business. This

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is voyage number two, a much bigger expedition.

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Three ships this time, the Grand Armine, the

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Petit Armine, and the smaller Amérien. He has

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a crew of 110 men. And crucially, he has his

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two guides. And this is the voyage where he actually

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sails up the river. This is it. This is the first

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documented European navigation of the St. Lawrence

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River. Guided by the two sons, he sails past

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Anticosti Island and realizes this isn't just

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a bay. This is a massive waterway leading deep

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into the continent. And this brings us to the

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name, the Canada. Mistake. I just love this part

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of the story. It's a perfect example of two cultures

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completely talking past each other. As they're

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sailing upriver, they're heading for the Iroquoian

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capital, a place called Statacona. Which is near

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modern -day Quebec City. Exactly. And the two

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guides are pointing ahead, and they use their

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word, Kanata. Meaning, village. Right. They're

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just saying, the village is just ahead. But Cartier

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hears Kanata, and on his charts, he writes it

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down as the name for the entire region. He thinks

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that's what the whole country is called. He does,

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and the name just sticks. First it reflected

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that small area, then it expanded to the whole

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north shore of the river, and eventually, centuries

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later, it becomes the name for the second largest

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country on Earth. All from one little misunderstanding.

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So they get to Staticona, they meet Donacona

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again. The reunion must have been tense. I imagine

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so. But also, a relief for Donacona, seeing his

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sons returned. But Cartier isn't satisfied with

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Staticona. He has gold fever. He's hearing stories

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from the locals about another, bigger settlement.

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further upriver, a place called Hochelaga. And

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Donacona doesn't want him to go. No, Donacona

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tries everything to stop him. He probably wanted

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to control the French and monopolize any trade.

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He tells Cartier the river is too dangerous,

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that there are monsters. He even has three men

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dress up as devils with long horns and blackened

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faces to try and scare the French away. That's

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a theatrical. It is, but Cartier isn't buying

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it. He accuses them of trickery and says his

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god will protect him. He leaves his two main

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ships and most of his men at Staticona and pushes

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upriver in the smallest vessel, the Emerion.

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To Hochelaga, which is basically in Montreal.

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It's on the island of Montreal, yes. And when

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he gets there, the place is much more impressive

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than Staticona. It's a large, fortified village

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with a triple palisade, surrounded by vast fields

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of corn. The log says a crowd of over a thousand

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people came out to greet them. He's a celebrity!

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He is. They carry him on their shoulders. They

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bring their sick for him to touch, as if he's

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a healer. He reads in the Gospel of John. It's

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this moment of incredible cultural collision.

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But Cartier has one thing on his mind. China.

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China. He is led to the top of the mountain that

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dominates the island. He names it Mount Royal,

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which is where we get the name Montreal. And

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he looks out to the west over the Ottawa River,

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and he's expecting the Pacific Ocean. He's expecting

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to see a clear path, a waterway that will take

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him to Asia. He is so close he can taste it.

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And instead, what he sees is just water, but

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it's white. It's frothing. Rapids. Vicious, impassable

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rapids. And you have to understand, for a 16th

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century sailing ship, rapids are not an inconvenience.

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They are a brick wall, a dead end. Hitting a

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rock in that current would be the end of the

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ship and everyone on it. Instantly. So he's standing

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there. on Mont Royal, and his entire dream of

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a Northwest Passage just dies right in front

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of his eyes. The disappointment must have been

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absolutely crushing. But the irony, and I love

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this part, the irony is that he was so convinced

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that China was just on the other side of that

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white water that the area eventually got a nickname.

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It did. The Rapids and the town that grew up

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near them became known as Lachine. The China

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Rapids. It's a joke that's literally carved into

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the map of Canada. It's a permanent monument

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to his stubborn delusion. He couldn't accept

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that this was a new continent with its own geography.

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He had to force it into his pre -existing mental

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map. So he hits this wall. He has to turn back.

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He sails back downriver to Staticona. But there's

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a problem. He's been upriver too long. He has.

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By the time he gets back, it's mid -October.

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And as anyone who's spent time in Quebec can

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tell you, winter doesn't ask for permission.

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It just arrives. And Carquier, a man from the

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relatively mild maritime climate of Brittany,

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has absolutely no idea what he's in for. He is

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about to face a full -blown Canadian continental

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winter. And it's going to destroy his expedition.

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This part of the log, it reads like a horror

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story. They haul their ships into a small tributary,

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build a makeshift fort, and then the world just

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freezes around them. The river freezes solid.

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The log says the ice was more than two fathoms

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thick. That's over three and a half meters. The

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ships were locked in place. The snow on the shore

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was over a meter deep. They are trapped. Completely

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trapped. And they're living in the hulls of these

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ships, which are basically frozen wooden caves.

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He writes that the inside walls were covered

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in ice four fingers thick. It's dark. It's cramped.

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The food is spoiling. And then the disease starts.

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Scurvy. We know today it's just a simple vitamin

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C deficiency. But to them, it was a terrifying,

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mysterious plague. They had no idea what caused

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it or how to stop it. The descriptions are just

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gruesome. They are. Cartier writes about how

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his men's legs would swell up and turn black

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and purple like they were brewed. Their gums

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would rot away, becoming so putrid that their

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teeth would just loosen and fall out. Just fall

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out of their heads. Yes. And strangest of all,

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old wounds, scars from years before, would suddenly

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reopen and start to fester. It was like their

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bodies were just falling apart from the inside

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out. It's a nightmare how many men were affected.

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Pretty much everyone. By mid -February, Cartier

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writes that out of his 110 men, there weren't

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even 10 who were healthy enough to care for the

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others. Men were dying every day. They stopped

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trying to bury them because the ground was frozen

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solid. They just hid the bodies in snowdrifts

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around the fort. It's so grim. There's a note

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on an old Spanish map from around that time.

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It points to that very spot and says simply,

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here many French died of hunger. They were facing

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total annihilation. They were all going to die

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there, frozen in the ice. And the only reason

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they didn't is the Iroquois. The very people

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he had been, you know, manipulating and lying

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to. Exactly. Cartier noticed that Domagaya, one

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of the sons he'd kidnapped, had been sick with

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the same symptoms, but had suddenly made a full

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recovery. He was walking around healthy. So Cartier,

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in complete desperation, goes and asks him for

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the secret. He does. And Domagaya tells him about

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a specific tree, which he calls a netta. We think

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it was probably eastern white cedar, maybe a

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type of spruce. And what did they do with it?

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Domagaya teaches them to boil the bark and the

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needles to make a tea, a decoction. It would

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have been incredibly rich in vitamin C and also

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ascorbic acid. It's the miracle cure. It was.

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Carty writes that at first his men were suspicious.

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They didn't want to drink this strange tree bark

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tea. But two or three of them tried it, and within

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a day or two, they started to feel better. And

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then it was a frenzy. A complete frenzy. He says

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they stripped a tree as large as any I ever saw,

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completely bare in less than a week. And it worked.

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It just worked. The scurvy was cured. The irony

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is just staggering. The man he kidnapped is the

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only reason his expedition survived. It's a powerful

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lesson in interdependence. But Cartier, being

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Cartier, repays this incredible act of humanity

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in a very characteristic way. Let me guess. It

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involves another kidnapping. You guessed it.

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Spring finally arrives. The ice breaks up. It's

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time to go home. But what does he have to show

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for it? He lost 25 men. He didn't find a passage

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to China. He didn't find any gold. A story about

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a miracle tree isn't going to impress the king.

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Not enough to fund a third voyage. He needs something

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more spectacular. He needs a story about gold.

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And he decides the best person to tell that story

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is the chief himself, Donna Kona. So this is

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where the mythical kingdom of Saguenay comes

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into play. What was that exactly? That's the

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million -franc question. The Iroquoians, Donna

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Coney included, have been telling Cartier stories

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about a wealthy kingdom to the north, up the

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Saguenay River. a place where people were as

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white as in France, wore woolen clothes, and

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had vast amounts of gold, rubies, and other precious

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metals. Was any of it true? It's hard to say.

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One theory is that it was a garbled description

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of a real indigenous trade network. Maybe they

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were describing copper from the Great Lakes,

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and Carquier, in his gold -obsessed mind, just

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heard gold. Or they were just telling him what

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he wanted to hear. That's the other more cynical

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theory, that the Iroquois were smart. They figured

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out what these strange bearded men wanted more

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than anything. It was this yellow metal. So they

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said, oh, the gold. Yeah, lots of it. But it's

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not here. It's way over there. You should go

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look for it. Who bothered the people in Saguenay?

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Precisely. It was a clever way to try and get

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rid of them. But Cartier bought it. Hook, line,

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and sinker. He needed it to be real. So he decides

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to take Donnacona back to France to tell this

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story to the king himself. He hashes a plot.

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He pretends to be having a celebration, lures

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Donnacona, the two sons, and several other headmen

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into his fort, and then he seizes them. He captures

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the entire leadership of Statacona. And sails

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for France. He promised the people he'd bring

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them back in a year. A promise he had no intention

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of keeping. None of them ever saw their home

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again. They all died in France within a few years.

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But Donnacona did his job first. He did. Before

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he died, he was presented at court. And he told

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King Francis the first incredible tales of the

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kingdom of Saguenay. Fantastical stories of one

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-legged men, people who could fly, and a kingdom

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overflowing with gold. And the king believed

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it. The king was hooked. This was exactly what

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he wanted to hear. He immediately began planning

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a third voyage. But this time, the entire objective

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had changed. It's now 1541. Five years have passed.

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The goal is no longer just exploration or finding

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a passage. The king's orders are for colonization.

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He wants to build a permanent French settlement,

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claim the territory, and find and exploit the

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riches of Saguenay. But there's a catch for Cartier.

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A big one. A very big one. He's the expert. He's

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the only one who really knows the St. Lawrence.

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But the king doesn't put him in charge of the

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whole enterprise. Who gets the job? A nobleman,

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a courtier, and a soldier named Jean -Francois

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de la Roque de Roberval. He's named lieutenant

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general of Canada. Cartier is demoted to chief

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navigator. Ouch. That must have stung. It was

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a class thing. Colonization was seen as a military

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and aristocratic venture. Cartier was a commoner,

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a sailor from Saint -Malo. He wasn't considered

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high status enough to lead it. But this decision

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effectively doomed the mission from the start

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because Cartier and Roberval did not get along.

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And their coordination was a mess from day one.

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A total mess. Roberval was delayed, waiting for

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artillery and more supplies. He told Cartier

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to sail on ahead with five ships and about 1

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,500 people. Cartier left in May 1541. 1 ,500

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people? That's not an expedition. That's an invasion

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force. It is. It includes settlers, soldiers,

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even livestock. This is meant to be permanent.

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So Cartier arrives back at Statacona. He has

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to face the Iroquoians, now led by a new chief,

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Agona. And he has to explain what happened to

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Donacona and the others. And again. He lies.

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He tells them Donnacona died in France, which

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was true. But he claims the other chiefs had

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become great lords, married French women, and

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had chosen to stay in France and live in luxury.

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Did anyone believe him? Not for a second. The

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log says Agona pretended to be happy about it,

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probably because Donacona was his political rival.

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But the trust was completely shattered. The French

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were now seen as kidnappers and liars. So Staticona

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is no longer a safe place for them. No. Cartier

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recognizes the danger. The Iroquois are openly

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hostile. So he abandons Staticona and sails a

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few miles upriver to a high cliff at the mouth

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of the Cap Rouge River. And there... He builds

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the first fortified European settlement in what

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is now Canada. He calls it Charlesburg Royal.

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And they actually try to make a go of it. They

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plant crops. They do. The log says they planted

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cabbage, turnip, and lettuce, which grew well.

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They built two forts, one at the base of the

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cliff and one at the top. They were settling

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in for the long haul. And then the men started

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finding something in the rocks. Here we go. The

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gold fever returns. With a vengeance. They find

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these shiny yellow specks in the slate cliffs.

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And down by the river, they find loads of these

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hard, clear stones that glitter in the sun like,

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well... Diamonds? Diamonds. Karkarchi is beyond

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excited. He is convinced he's finally found it.

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The wealth of Saguenay. He packs barrels and

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barrels of the stuff. He believes he's about

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to become the richest man in France. But while

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they're digging for diamonds, the situation outside

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the fort is getting worse. Much worse. They are

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essentially living under siege. The Iroquoians,

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who now vastly outnumber them, refuse to trade.

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They begin a campaign of guerrilla warfare, attacking

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any small group of French who wander too far

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from the fort. We don't have Cartier's full log

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for that winter, do we? No, it's lost to history.

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But later accounts from sailors on the voyage

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tell us that at least 35 of the settlers were

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killed in these skirmishes. It was a brutal...

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Terrifying winter. And Cartier is stuck there.

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He's got his barrels of treasure, but he's surrounded

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by enemies. Winter is setting in, and his boss,

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Roberval, is nowhere to be seen. So he makes

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a decision. He decides to cut his losses and

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run. In early June of 1542... He makes the call

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to abandon Charlesburg Royal. He packs up all

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his gold and diamonds, loads everyone onto the

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ships, and flees for France. And this leads to

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maybe the most dramatic scene in the entire story.

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He's sailing home. He pulls into the harbor at

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St. John's, Newfoundland to get supplies. And

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who should be sailing in? His boss, Jean -Francois

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de Roberville, finally arriving from France with

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his three ships and 200 more settlers. That has

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to be the most awkward meeting in the history

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of exploration. Oh, hello, boss. Funny seeing

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you here. I was just... quitting. Roberval is

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absolutely furious. He's just crossed the Atlantic

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and his chief navigator is running away. He holds

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a council and formally orders Cartier to turn

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his ships around and sail back to the colony

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with him. A direct order from his commanding

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officer? Yes. But Cartier thinks he has an ace

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up his sleeve. He has the diamonds. He has the

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gold. He believes he is carrying a fortune that

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will make the king forgive any act of insubordination.

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So he disobeys the order? In the most flagrant

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way possible. During the night, he has his sailors

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quietly weigh anchor, and under the cover of

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darkness, he slips his ships out of the harbor.

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He deserts his commander and his mission. He

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ghosts him. That's unbelievable. That's a court

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martial offense. Treason, even. It is. But he's

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betting everything on that cargo. He sails back

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to France, he gets his audience with the king,

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he presents his barrels of treasure, and the

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royal assayers get to work. And the verdict comes

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in. The gold is iron pyrite. Fool's gold. The

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diamonds are quartz crystals. They're all completely,

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utterly worthless. Oh, the humiliation. You abandon

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a colony. You defy your commander. You risk everything

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for a boatload of gravel. The failure was so

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total. So spectacular that it actually became

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a part of the French language. For centuries

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after, there was a common proverb, faux comme

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les diamants du Canada. As false as Canadian

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diamonds. Exactly. If you wanted to say something

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was a complete fraud, a total sham, you compared

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it to Cartier's great discovery. And what happened

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to Rob Reval, the guy he abandoned in Newfoundland?

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Rob Reval, to his credit, carried on. He sailed

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to the abandoned fort at Charlesburg Royal, reestablished

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the colony, and tried to stick it out for the

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winter. How did that go for him? It was a catastrophe.

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The winter was just as brutal. Scurvy came back

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with a vengeance. Fifty settlers died from it,

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and the attacks on the Iroquois were relentless.

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By the spring of 1543, he gave up, backed up

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the survivors, and sailed home. So the whole

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colonization effort was a complete failure. An

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expensive and deadly failure. And because of

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it, France completely lost interest in Canada.

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They basically wrote it off as a frozen, worthless

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wasteland full of hostile people and fake diamonds.

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They wouldn't make another serious attempt at

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colonization for more than 60 years until Samuel

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de Champlain arrived in the early 1600s. And

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Cartier, what becomes of him after all this?

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He retires in disgrace to his estate near Saint

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-Malo. He lives out his days quietly, occasionally

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working as a Portuguese interpreter for the local

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courts. He dies in 1557 during an outbreak of

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typhus, a pretty anticlimactic end for the man

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who named Canada. But the story doesn't quite

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end there, because for centuries, the exact location

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of that failed colony, Charlesburg Royal, was

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lost. That's right. People knew it was near Cap

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Rouge, but the precise spot was a mystery until...

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Very recently. 2006, I think. Yes, in 2006, a

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team of Canadian archaeologists finally found

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it. They uncovered the remains of the timber

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forts, blacksmith forges, and most tellingly,

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a very specific piece of pottery. A fragment

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of a beautiful, ornate Italian ceramic plate.

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It's called Fononza Istoriata Ware, made between

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1540 and 1550. This wasn't the kind of thing

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a common sailor or a farmer would own. This was

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high -end... Luxury dinnerware. It had to belong

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to an aristocrat. It almost certainly belonged

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to Robert Ravel himself. It's this tiny, tangible

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piece of the French Renaissance court found shattered

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and buried in the Canadian soil. It's the proof.

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It's the whole story real. It's amazing. It connects

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that whole grand, doomed enterprise right back

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to a single person eating his dinner while a

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Canadian winter howled outside. And dreaming

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of Saguenay. So when we zoom out and look at

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the whole picture, how do we assess Jacques Cartier?

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He was looking for Asia. He found a river. He

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wanted gold. He found quartz. He heard the word

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for village and thought it was a country. It's

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a legacy of failure that somehow became a success.

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He failed at every single one of his stated objectives.

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He didn't find the passage. He didn't find any

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wealth. His colony was a disaster. But in failing,

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he was the first European to penetrate. map,

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and describe the gateway to the North American

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continent. Uh -huh. The St. Lawrence River. He

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put it on the map. He gave the place its name.

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Without Cartier's voyages and charts, Champlain

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would have had nowhere to start. Cartier opened

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the door, even if he couldn't see what was on

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the other side. And his treatment of the Iroquois.

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The kidnappings. That set a tone, didn't it?

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It did. It set a precedent for deceit and mistrust

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that poisoned relations for a long time. He was

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a brilliant navigator. He never lost a ship at

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sea, which is remarkable. But his diplomacy was

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dishonorable, even by the standards of his own

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time. So he's not the discoverer of Canada? We

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know Vikings and Basque fishermen were there

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long before him. No, but he is the first to systematically

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explore and map the interior waterway. That's

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his real lasting contribution. It all comes back

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to mistakes, doesn't it? A story of mistaken

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geography with China, mistaken geology with the

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diamonds, and a mistaken translation with the

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name Canada. Which brings us to a final thought

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to leave you with. Cartier kidnapped a chief

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to have him tell the king a story about a mythical

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kingdom of gold called Saguenay. Was Saguenay

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just a tall tale the Iroquoians told to get the

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French to leave them alone? Or was it a genuine

00:28:19.609 --> 00:28:22.630
misunderstanding of a real trade network? And

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think about this. The false diamonds of Canada

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became a proverb for a sham. They were forgotten.

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But the false name for the country, Canada, the

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village, that mistake became a nation. What does

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it say about how history works? That sometimes

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the errors are the things that last the longest?

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A question worth thinking about. On that note,

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thank you for joining us for this deep dive into

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the river to nowhere. It's been a fascinating

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and very complicated journey.
