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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are unpacking

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a figure who effectively just breaks the binary

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of 20th century music. He really does. I mean,

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usually have your high art composers, you know,

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the Stravinsky's, the Copland's sitting in their

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ivory towers. And then you have the low art rock

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stars in the stadium. Right. The two are not

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supposed to meet. But today's subject didn't

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just blur that line. He took a blowtorch to it.

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We're looking at a man who is a self -taught

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composer writing incredibly complex orchestral

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scores. And at the same time, he's this rock

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icon who famously, and I mean famously, despised

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the drug culture of the 60s. Which is already

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a contradiction. But then, to top it all off,

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this counterculture hero identified himself,

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confusingly for a lot of people, as a practical

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conservative. It is a paradox that makes your

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head spin. We're talking, of course, about Frank

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Zappa. And the mission today, well, it isn't

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just to list the albums. Oh, God, no. If we tried

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to do a track -by -track breakdown, we'd be here

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for weeks. He released 62 albums while he was

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alive. 62. And the Zappa Family Trust has released

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another 70 since he died. That number is just

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staggering. It's over 130 albums. That level

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of productivity, it doesn't even seem human.

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It's a prodigious output by any standard. But

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our goal is to look at how he did it, and maybe

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more importantly, who he was. We're going to

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analyze the chemist's son, who treated the electric

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guitar like a section of a symphony orchestra.

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And the man who took on the U .S. Senate over

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censorship. Exactly. And we need to get into

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the overarching concept he called the project

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object. And that chemist's son title, it's not

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a metaphor, it's literal. The sources all seem

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to agree that to understand the music, you have

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to start with the chemistry sets. We need to

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go back to Baltimore in 1940. That's the ground

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zero. Frank Vincent Zappa was born into an Italian

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-American household, but the environment was

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incredibly specific and, frankly, quite alarming

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by modern standards. How so? His father, Francis

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Vincent Zappa, was a mathematician and a chemist.

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But he wasn't, you know, working at a local pharmacy.

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He was working in the defense industry, specifically

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at the Edgewood Arsenal. Which, for anyone who

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doesn't know their military history, was a chemical

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warfare facility. That's it. This was the era

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of mustard gas research. The family lived in

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student housing at the Aberdeen Proving Ground,

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and the sources highlight this really chilling

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detail that sets the tone for his entire life.

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The gas masks. Gas masks. Because they lived

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so close to where the mustard gas was stored,

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the family kept gas masks in the house. Just

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ready. That is such a heavy visual for a childhood.

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I mean, most kids have a baseball bat or bicycle

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in the corner. The Zappas had gas masks on standby

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for a potential chemical leak. It creates an

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atmosphere of this invisible looming danger.

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Yeah. You're living in a domestic space that

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is constantly under threat for something you

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can't see, but you know it can kill you. And

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this probably contributed to the fact that Zappa

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was a very sickly child. Right. He had all sorts

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of health problems. Severe asthma. Constant earaches.

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Chronic sinus problems. And this is where the

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history of medicine intersects with his biography

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in a truly disturbing way. This part of the research

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just stopped me in my tracks. The treatment for

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his sinusitis. It sounds like science fiction

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horror today. A doctor decided to treat young

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Frank's sinusitis by inserting pellets of radium

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directly into his nostrils. Radium. As in radioactive

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material. up a child's nose. To shrink the adenoids,

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that was the theory. You have to remember, this

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was the 1940s. The full understanding of the

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long -term effects of radiation just wasn't public

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knowledge yet, or at least it wasn't acknowledged

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in general practice. So you have this kid who

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Zappa himself later speculated was probably sick

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from the mustard gas in the environment. Right.

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And then the cure provided by the medical establishment

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is to put a radioactive substance inside his

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head. That has to leave a mark. I don't just

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mean physically, but psychologically. Absolutely.

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It teaches you a very specific lesson very early

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in life. Authority figures, doctors, the government,

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you name it, might be doing something completely

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insane. It breeds this deep -seated skepticism.

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A profound skepticism. He learned that the people

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in charge might actually be hurting you while

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claiming to help you. That's a theme that runs

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through his entire body of work. And the chemistry

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wasn't just medical or environmental. It was...

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recreational in a way. The story about the mercury.

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Yes. His father would bring home lab equipment

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from the arsenal. One day he brought home a flask

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of liquid mercury. And Zappa recalls playing

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with it on his bedroom floor. He'd take a hammer

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and just smash the mercury to watch it splash

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into these tiny little droplets. Which we now

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know is incredibly toxic. Breathing those fumes

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is... Bad news. Highly toxic. But just think

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about the metaphor there for a second. You have

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a child playing with a substance that is fluid,

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it's dangerous, it's heavy, and it breaks apart

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into smaller perfect versions of itself when

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you hit it. And when you fast forward to his

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music. That is exactly what he does with sound.

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He smashes it apart, scatters it, and reassembles

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it into new forms. He treats sound waves like

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a physical material to be sculpted. It makes

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so much sense because his lyrics later in his

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career are just obsessed with germs, with disease,

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with the military -industrial complex. This wasn't

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some abstract political posture for him. He literally

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grew up inside it. He lived it. He was in the

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shadow of the industry. It made him skeptical

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of official narratives from day one. Now, usually

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when you have a story about a musical genius,

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you hear about them, you know, playing piano

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at age three or writing concertos by age five.

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That was not Zappa. No, not a child prodigy in

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that classical sense. He didn't have any formal

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training. He was interested in the sounds. He

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started out as a drummer. He liked the percussive

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nature of things. But the big turning point,

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and this is such a quintessential Zappa moment,

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came from a magazine article. Not from a teacher

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or a mentor. A magazine. He was reading Look

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Magazine, an article about Sam Goody's record

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store chain. And the article was basically bragging

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about the store's ability to sell obscure, difficult

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music. The subtext was, we're so good, we can

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even sell this garbage. Exactly. And the prime

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example of this garbage was an album by the composer

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Edgard Varese, specifically a piece called Ionization.

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The article described it as, and I'm quoting

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here, a weird jumble of drums and other unpleasant

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sounds. For 99 % of the population, unpleasant

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sounds is a warning label. For Frank Zappa, it

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was an invitation. It was a sales pitch. He had

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to hear it. He was compelled. He hunted for that

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record for a whole year. When he finally found

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a copy, he didn't even have enough money for

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it. But the cover photo sealed the deal for him.

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It did. He saw the picture of Perez, who looked

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like a mad scientist. Wild hair, this intense

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stare. It appealed to the chemist's son in him.

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He managed to convince the salesman to give him

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a discount, and he took the record home. That

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record, Ionization, it basically became his Bible.

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He played it until the grooves wore out. He would

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make his parents listen to it. But here is the

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absolute key to understanding Zappa's whole project

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object idea. At the exact same time, he's absorbing

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this avant -garde, dissonant, modern classical

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music. He's also listening to Top 40 radio. He's

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listening to R &amp;B. He loves doo -wop. He's obsessed

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with the jewels and Johnny Guitar Watson. So

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in his developing musical brain, Igor Stravinsky

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and 1950s doo -wop are sitting at the same table.

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They were on completely equal footing. He never

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saw the distinction between high art and low

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art. It was all just good sound to him. That

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fusion is the blueprint for everything that follows.

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He would spend the rest of his life trying to

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smash those two worlds together, creating this

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universe where a complex orchestral passage could

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just slam cut into a greasy... Okay, so let's

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move forward a bit. The family settles in California,

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partly for his health. He graduates high school,

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just barely, and he tries college. For about

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a semester. He dropped out of Chaffee College.

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He despised formal education. Why so much? He

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saw the school system as a mechanism for creating

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compliant workers, not independent thinkers.

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He famously, years later... took his own children

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out of school when they turned 15 because he

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felt the system was just about indoctrination,

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not education. So after dropping out, he gets

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into the recording world. He takes over a small

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studio in Cucamonga, PAL Recording Studio, and

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he renames it. He renames it Studio Z. And this

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is where the mad scientist really starts to experiment.

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But the locals, they didn't really see a scientist.

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They just saw a weirdo. Cucamonga in the early

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60s was not exactly a haven for the counterculture.

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It was conservative. It was suburban. And here's

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Zappa, living in the studio, working 12 -hour

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days, splicing tape, making these bizarre noises.

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He had long hair. The local press even ran this

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little hit piece on him, calling him the movie

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king of kookamonga, implying something seedy

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was going on. Which got the police interested.

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They got suspicious. They thought he was making

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pornographic films. This leads to the sting operation.

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And this whole story, it sounds like a bad movie

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plot. It's classic entrapment. Really. An undercover

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officer from the Vice Squad approaches Zappa.

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He offers him $100, which was a decent amount

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of money for a broke musician in 1965, to produce

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a suggestive audio tape for a bachelor party.

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And Zappa, needing the cash, he agrees to make

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a fic tape. Right. This is the key. He wasn't

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a pornographer. He and a female friend go into

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the recording booth. They bounce on a squeaky

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bed. They make some fake moaning sounds. They

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laugh. It wasn't explicit at all. It was a joke.

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But the police didn't see it that way. The second

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he handed over the tape, the police raided the

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entire studio. Yeah, just stripped the place.

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They took everything. 80 hours of his recorded

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music, most of which was never, ever returned.

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He was charged with conspiracy to commit pornography,

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a felony charge. For a joke tape? That seems

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incredibly disproportionate. It was. The charge

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was eventually reduced to a misdemeanor, but

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he still had to serve 10 days in jail. And those

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10 days were absolutely transformative. You can

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imagine him sitting in that cell. Just think

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about it. He's lost his studio. He's lost his

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recordings, his livelihood, all because he didn't

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fit in with the local culture. He saw the inside

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of the justice system. He saw how authority could

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be manipulated and abused to crush someone just

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because they were different. It solidified this

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permanent burning anti -authoritarian stance.

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He never trusted the police or the government

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again. So he gets out of jail. His studio is

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gone. He has to pivot. He joins a band that's

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already playing, a group called the Soul Giants.

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But he doesn't just join them. He essentially

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hijacks them. He was a natural leader or a dictator,

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depending on which band member you ask. He immediately

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takes over. He convinces them to stop playing

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cover songs and start playing his original music,

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which was way weirder than what they were used

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to. And they renamed themselves The Mothers.

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Which was, at the time, slang. It was. In the

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jazz and R &amp;B world, being a mother was a high

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compliment. It meant you were a really skilled

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musician. A bad mother. But the record labels

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didn't see it that way. No. The label, Verve,

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knew that mother was also short for a very specific

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profanity. They absolutely refused to sign a

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band with that name. So Zappa, you know, keeping

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the subversive edge but bowing to the commercial

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pressure, changed it to the Mothers of Invention.

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And in 1966, they dropped their first album,

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Freak Out. Which is just a landmark album. It

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was only the second rock double album ever released.

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Right after Dylan's Blonde on Blonde. Just after

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it. And musically, it was that exact chemical

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mixture we were talking about earlier. You had

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these sweet 50s style doo -wop harmonies sitting

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right next to experimental sound collages and

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screaming in dissonance. But the lyrics are what

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I find so interesting. He looked like a hippie,

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you know, the long hair, the weird clothes. But

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he was not singing. All you need is love. Oh,

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far from it. Freak out. It was pure satire. He

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was satirizing American consumer culture for

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sure, but he was also satirizing the freak scene

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itself. He saw the counterculture as just another

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type of uniform. He thought if you grow your

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hair long just because everyone else is doing

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it, you're still a conformist. Exactly. He was

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an equal opportunity offender. He was critiquing

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the plastic society of the mainstream, but he

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was also critiquing the plastic rebellion of

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the hippies. This seems like a good time to get

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into the core of his entire body of work, the

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project object. This isn't just some fancy term

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he made up. It's how he structured his entire

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creative life. Can you break down what that actually

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means for someone listening to his music? Right.

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Project Object. Hit his theory of conceptual

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continuity. Zappa viewed his entire output, every

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album, every song, every film, every interview,

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as one single, massive, continuous work. So it's

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all connected. It's like the Marvel Cinematic

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Universe, but for avant -garde jazz rock. That

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is actually a fantastic analogy. It's intricately

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connected. A character named, say... Susie Cream

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Cheese might appear on an album in 1966, and

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then she'll just pop up again at a completely

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different context on an album in 1975. And musical

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phrases do the same thing. Yes. A musical phrase,

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what he called an air sculpture, might be played

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by his rock band on one album and then show up

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again, reorchestrated for a symphony orchestra

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on another. For the hardcore fan, listening to

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Zappa is like solving a puzzle. Everything references

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something else within this huge, sprawling Zappa

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universe. It rewards deep attention. And to achieve

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this continuity to build this universe, he developed

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some recording techniques that were just way

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ahead of their time. The one that really stands

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out in the research is Xenocrany. Xenocrany.

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This is the mad scientist at his absolute peak.

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The word comes from the Greek. Xeno meaning strange

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and chronos meaning time. Strange time. How did

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it actually work in practice? Because we have

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to remember, this was before computers, before

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Pro Tools. This is an analog world. This was

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him physically cutting magnetic tape with a razor

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blade. It's painstaking work. Zappa would take

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a guitar solo he'd recorded live, say, from a

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concert in London in 1979. He'd isolate that

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track. Just the guitar. Just the guitar. Then

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he would take a completely separate drum and

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bass rhythm track, one that was recorded in a

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studio in maybe 1980, possibly at a totally different

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tempo and different time signature, and he would

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physically pace the old solo on top of the new

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rhythm. That just sounds like it shouldn't work.

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If the tempos don't match, it should be a train

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wreck. And technically, according to conventional

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Western music theory, they shouldn't fit. But

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Zappa had this incredible, uncanny ear for what

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he called unexpected musical relationships. By

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forcing these two different time frames together,

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he created these bizarre syncopations and rhythmic

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tensions that a human band could never play live.

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Because humans would naturally try to sync up

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with each other. Exactly. We try to find the

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one. He wanted the parts to fight each other.

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It created this floating polyrhythmic feel that

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became one of his signature sounds. So when you're

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listening to a Zappa solo on an album, you're

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often hearing a musical collage, a construction,

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not a single live performance in the traditional

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sense. That's it, exactly. You are hearing a

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construction. And speaking of his solos, we should

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probably address his guitar playing itself. He's

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often locked off those top 100 guitarists lists

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because he wasn't playing blues licks. He didn't

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sound like Clapton or Hendrix or any of his contemporaries.

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No. He approached a solo like a composer. He

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used a symphonic approach. He would introduce

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a melodic theme, create variations on it, move

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it around the neck and bring it back, all while

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improvising. Technically, he used a lot of upstrokes

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with his pick, which gave the notes a very sharp,

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almost percussive attack. It was speech -like.

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He wanted the guitar to talk. He was sculpting

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air, but... It's the biggest. Achieving this

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complex vision required a level of discipline

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that did not mesh well with the sex, drugs and

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rock and roll ethos of the era. That's the real

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friction point, isn't it? He was a demanding

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taskmaster. He was. John McLaughlin, the jazz

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fusion legend, he called Zappa a dictator. Zappa

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knew exactly what he wanted every single instrument

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to do. He wrote out the drum parts. He wrote

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out the bass lines. There was very little room

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for interpretation in the ensemble parts. And

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he had absolutely zero tolerance for drugs. Zero.

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This is the great Zappa irony. People see the

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psychedelic album covers, they hear the weird

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noises, and they assume he was tripping on acid

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204 .7. When in reality, Zappa drank coffee by

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the gallon and smoked cigarettes constantly.

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He called tobacco his favorite vegetable. but

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he would fire band members on the spot for using

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drugs. Why was he so hardline about it? It wasn't

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a moral position, was it? No, not at all. It

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was a professionalism issue. He had a great quote.

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He said, drugs do not become a problem until

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the person who uses the drugs does something

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that would affect your life. For him, drugs made

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musicians sloppy. And he couldn't have sloppy

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musicians when he was trying to get them to execute

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these incredibly complex polyrhythms. You can't

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play in 78 time against a 54 rhythm if you're

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hallucinating. You can't. It's impossible. And

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this tension really comes to a head in his relationship

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with Captain Beefheart, Don Van Vliet. They were

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high school friends, but trying to work together

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was just chaos. The famous two geniuses on ego

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trips situation. That's a perfect description.

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When they toured together, especially around

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the Bongo Fury era in the mid -70s, Beefheart

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was just completely unpredictable. There are

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these famous stories of Zappa trying to conduct

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a complex instrumental piece, and Beefheart is

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just sitting on the side of the stage drawing

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caricatures of Zappa on a sketch pad. Or just

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mumbling into the microphone at the wrong time.

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Right. It perfectly sums up the duality of Zappa's

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life. He surrounded himself with chaos and bizarre

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characters, but he tried to control it all with

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absolute mathematical precision. Now, despite

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all this complexity, the xenocrany, the dictatorships,

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the general weirdness, he did manage to have

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commercial hits, but they almost feel like they

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happened by accident. They were usually accidental,

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or at the very least, they were misunderstood.

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His first top 10 album was Apostrophe in 1974,

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and it was almost entirely driven by the song

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Don't Eat the Yellow Snow. Which is, it's a novelty

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song. It's a suite about an Eskimo named Nenuk

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fighting a fur trapper. It's a joke, basically.

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People bought the album for the funny story.

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But then they were exposed to the incredibly

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complex jazz rock instrumental San Alfonso's

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Pancake Breakfast on the same record. It was

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a Trojan horse. And then there's his biggest

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hit ever, the only one to crack the U .S. Top

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40, Valley Girl in 1982. The irony of Valley

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Girl is just, it's so thick. It's painful, almost.

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It probably was for him. He recorded it with

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his daughter, Moon Unit. They were actively mocking

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the vapid uptalk slang of teenage girls in the

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San Fernando Valley. All the gag me with a spoon,

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grody to the max stuff. They were making fun

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of that culture. But the culture did not get

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the joke. Not only did they not get it, they

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adopted it as an anthem. The song popularized

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the very slang it was satirizing. People started

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talking like that because of the song. Frank

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Zappa accidentally created a cultural trend that

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he personally despised. But, and this is an important

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point, the money from Valley Girl was crucial.

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It was. It allowed him to fund his real passion,

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his true love, orchestral music. That was always

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the end goal, wasn't it? To be seen as a serious

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composer in the classical world. It was his first

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love, going all the way back to that Varese record.

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But the classical world was incredibly snobbish

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towards a rock guy with long hair. And to be

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honest... Zappa ended up hating working with

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orchestras. Why? You would think that would be

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his dream environment, perfect players, reading

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his docs. Human error and unions. The famous

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story is the disaster with the London Symphony

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Orchestra in 1983. Zappa paid for it himself,

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out of his own pocket. He was recording some

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of his most complex pieces. But the union rules

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required frequent breaks. And during the breaks.

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During the breaks, the trumpet section went down

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to the pub next door. They came back a little

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loose. They were playing out of tune. Zappa was

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furious. He had to make something like 40 razor

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blade edits just to fix that one section so it

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was listenable. He realized that humans were

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the weak link in his music. They were. They got

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tired. They got drunk. They complained. They

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made mistakes, which drove him right into the

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arms of the machine. Enter the synclavier. This

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was his solution to the human problem. The Synclavier

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was a very early, very expensive digital synthesizer

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and audio workstation. It looked like a giant

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computer terminal with a piano keyboard attached.

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For Zappa, it was the holy grail. So it could

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play anything? It could play impossible rhythms

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with one millisecond accuracy, and it didn't

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go to the pub on its break. It didn't need a

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break? It didn't drink, it didn't complain, it

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didn't ask for a raise, and it never got tired.

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In the 80s, he shifted his focus heavily towards

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the sinclavia because it allowed him to be the

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sole creator. He could finally hear the music

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exactly as he wrote it in his head without the

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pollution of human interpretation. So while he's

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retreating into this machine musically, he's

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actually stepping out onto the national stage

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politically. We touched on his anti -authority

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streak, but... How did he actually identify himself?

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He called himself a practical conservative. And

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that phrase just confuses people today because

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he doesn't fit the modern mold of a Republican

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or a conservative at all. Not even close. You

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have to really parse his definition. He favored

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small government, low taxes, and entrepreneurship.

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He believed, and this is a direct quote, government

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exists because individual citizens given a temporary

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license to exist. That sounds very libertarian.

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It is. But at the same time, he was a vehement

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atheist. He despised the religious right. He

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had this fascinating interpretation of the Garden

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of Eden story. He saw it not as a fall from grace,

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but as a parable where God wants to keep people

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stupid and ignorant. And the serpent is the hero

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for offering knowledge. So he was fiscally conservative,

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but socially he was completely opposed to the

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whole moral majority movement. Exactly. And that

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ideological collision came to a head in 1985

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with the PMRC hearings. The Parents Music Resource

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Center. This was the group co -founded by Tipper

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Gore, who was then Al Gore's wife, and Susan

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Baker, wife of the Treasury Secretary. They wanted

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to put warning labels on records with explicit

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lyrics. The parental advisory sticker that we

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all know today. Zappa went to the Senate to testify.

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And for anyone listening who hasn't seen this

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footage on YouTube, it is absolutely essential

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viewing. It's one of the greatest moments of

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political theater I've ever seen. You have Frank

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Zappa wearing this slightly too small suit. His

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hair is a bit trimmed, but it's still long. And

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he's sitting before the Senate Commerce Committee

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and he just dismantles them intellectually. He

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doesn't just stand up and say censorship is bad.

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He had a very specific, very clever argument.

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He called their proposal an ill -conceived piece

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of nonsense. Then he dropped his most famous

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line from the hearing comparing their demand

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for voluntary ratings to treating dandruff by

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decapitation. It's so vivid. But his deeper point

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was about the money. He argued that the hearings

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were a distraction. He claimed the real goal

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of the record industry who were sort of tacitly

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supporting this was to pass a tax on blank cassette

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tapes. And they were using the PMRC hearings

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as a way to cozy up to politicians to get it

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passed. So he saw it as a financial scam wrapped

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in a cloak of moral outrage. That's it. He looked

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past the culture war and he saw the transaction.

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And he didn't just leave it in the Senate. He

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put it on a record. He sampled the hearings.

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He did. The track is called Porn Wars. On the

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album, Frank Zappa meets the Mothers of Prevention.

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He took the recorded voices of the senators and

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the other witnesses, chopped them up, and turned

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them into a rhythmic musical composition. He

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literally made art out of their attempt to censor

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art. It was the ultimate take that. And his political

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reach, strangely enough, went even further than

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the U .S. This brings us to the Václav Havel

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connection in Czechoslovakia. This story is truly

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remarkable. Václav Havel was a playwright and

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a dissident in what was then communist Czechoslovakia.

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During that era, Zappa's music was banned, but

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it was smuggled into the country on cassette

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tapes. It became a symbol of freedom for the

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artistic underground. And the most famous Czech

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rock band from that era. The Plastic People of

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the Universe. They were pivotal to the Velvet

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Revolution. And they named themselves after a

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Zappa lyric from the song Plastic People. So

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when the Iron Curtain falls and Havel, the dissident

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playwright, becomes the president. One of the

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first things he does is invite Zappa to Prague

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in 1990. Zappa arrives, and he's treated like

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a visiting head of state. There are crowds cheering

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in the streets. And Havel actually named Zappa

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Special Ambassador to the West on Trade, Culture,

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and Tourism. Frank Zappa, the diplomat. It's

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surreal. For a very brief moment, yes. But the

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U .S. political establishment still held a grudge.

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The Secretary of State at the time, James Baker,

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whose wife co -founded the PMRC, was furious.

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He reportedly told Havel, you can do business

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with the United States or you can do business

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with Frank Zappa. They made him choose. They

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made him choose. And of course, Havel had to

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withdraw the official title, though Zappa stayed

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on as an unofficial cultural attaché for a while.

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It just shows you how much the U .S. government

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actually feared Zappa's influence. He wasn't

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just a weird musician to them. He was a genuine

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troublemaker. But tragically, right around this

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peak of international recognition, the clock

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really started ticking for him. Yeah. In 1990,

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he was diagnosed with terminal prostate cancer.

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The doctors told him it had probably been developing

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unnoticed for years. He'd had urinary issues

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for a long time that were ignored or misdiagnosed.

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By the time they found the cancer, it was inoperable.

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How did that diagnosis change his output? Did

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he slow down? He stopped touring with a rock

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band. He simply didn't have the physical stamina

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anymore. But his creative energy just focused

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like a laser. He devoted everything he had left

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to his orchestral and synclavier works. He was

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in a race against time to finish the project

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object. He just wanted to get the music out of

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the machine. He said exactly that. Get the music

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out of the machine and onto the tape before it

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was too late. And this frantic period of work

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leads to his final masterpiece, The Yellow Shark.

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This was his final triumph. In 1992, he collaborated

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with a German contemporary classical group called

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the Ensemble Modern. And finally, after all those

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years of frustration with lazy or incompetent

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orchestras, he found a group of musicians who

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respected the music. They took it seriously.

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They rehearsed obsessively. They didn't go to

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the pub. They learned his most difficult, rhythmically

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complex pieces and played them with passion and

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precision. Was Zappa able to be there for the

00:26:35.799 --> 00:26:38.180
premiere? He was very ill by then, in severe

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pain. But he flew to Germany and attended the

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premiere in Frankfurt. He was too weak to conduct

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the whole show, but he got up on the podium to

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conduct the opening piece, Overture, and one

00:26:49.440 --> 00:26:52.160
of his sinclavier pieces, G -Spot Tornado. And

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the reaction from that classical audience. It

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was a 20 -minute standing ovation. It was the

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validation he had been seeking his entire career.

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The serious music establishment finally bowed

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to him. In that moment, he wasn't the weirdo

00:27:03.930 --> 00:27:06.190
rock star anymore. He was the composer. He died

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just over a year later, in December of 1993.

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He was only 52. 52 is just incredibly young,

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and he was buried in an unmarked grave. That's

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right. No monument, just the work. He didn't

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want a shrine. But the legacy, the legacy is

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so weirdly pervasive. We started this by calling

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him the chemist's son, and it turns out the scientific

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community really has embraced him as one of their

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own. They adored him. I think scientists are

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often iconoclasts, just like he was. They appreciate

00:27:33.650 --> 00:27:36.329
the precision, the complexity, and the rebellion

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in his music. So they started naming their discoveries

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after him. It's fantastic. There's a spider called

00:27:41.609 --> 00:27:44.589
Pachignatha Zappa. Why? It was named because

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the dark markings on the spider's abdomen apparently

00:27:47.829 --> 00:27:50.390
look like Zappa's signature mustache. That is

00:27:50.390 --> 00:27:52.869
just perfect. It doesn't stop there. There's

00:27:52.869 --> 00:27:56.569
a jellyfish, Phialella Zappai, a fossil snail

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called Spygori Zappania, And maybe the most fitting

00:28:00.700 --> 00:28:03.200
tribute of all, given his dark sense of humor.

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Go on. There is a gene in the bacterium Proteus

00:28:06.160 --> 00:28:08.700
mirabilis, which is a bacterium that causes urinary

00:28:08.700 --> 00:28:11.839
tract infections, named Zappa. Oh, I would have

00:28:11.839 --> 00:28:14.240
loved that. The scientists who discovered it

00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.500
explicitly thanked him in their paper for his

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inspiration. And there's even an asteroid 3834

00:28:19.440 --> 00:28:21.500
Zappa, Frank. So here it's literally orbiting

00:28:21.500 --> 00:28:23.539
the planet right now. And the music itself hasn't

00:28:23.539 --> 00:28:26.920
stopped either. No. The vault he left behind

00:28:26.920 --> 00:28:30.039
is seemingly bottomless. The Zappa Family Trust

00:28:30.039 --> 00:28:33.039
has released more albums posthumously than he

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did while he was alive. We're still getting new

00:28:35.000 --> 00:28:38.740
material. Civilization Phase 3, The Lost Episodes,

00:28:38.819 --> 00:28:41.900
Transfusion, The Project Object continues to

00:28:41.900 --> 00:28:43.759
expand. We are still discovering connections

00:28:43.759 --> 00:28:46.660
that he planted decades ago. So as we wrap this

00:28:46.660 --> 00:28:49.460
all up, how do we summarize a man like this?

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Is he the musical scientist who just... traded

00:28:52.000 --> 00:28:54.099
playing with mercury for playing with sound waves?

00:28:54.339 --> 00:28:56.980
I think Zappa's own view of himself is the best

00:28:56.980 --> 00:28:59.200
summary. He never saw himself as a rock star.

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He famously said, I'm a composer. He used a rock

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and roll band because it was the only economically

00:29:04.380 --> 00:29:07.000
viable way to get his music heard. Orchestras

00:29:07.000 --> 00:29:09.640
were too expensive and unreliable. Right. A rock

00:29:09.640 --> 00:29:11.819
band would show up, they'd go on the road, and

00:29:11.819 --> 00:29:14.380
they'd play for a salary. He was using the medium

00:29:14.380 --> 00:29:17.319
of rock music to smuggle his avant garde compositions

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into the mainstream. He was infiltrating pop

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culture to dismantle it from the inside. Precisely.

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And that leaves us with, I think, a really provocative

00:29:26.220 --> 00:29:29.500
thought for today. We live in an era of algorithms.

00:29:30.119 --> 00:29:32.940
Spotify and TikTok are designed to feed us music

00:29:32.940 --> 00:29:35.079
that sounds exactly like the thing we just listened

00:29:35.079 --> 00:29:38.299
to. It's a comfortable loop of familiarity. It's

00:29:38.299 --> 00:29:40.640
designed to keep you comfortable. And Zappa was

00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:42.640
designed to make you uncomfortable. So the question

00:29:42.640 --> 00:29:46.730
is... Could a project object as complex and demanding

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as Frank Zappa's even exist today? Could a catalog

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that requires you to listen to doo -wop and then

00:29:52.269 --> 00:29:54.809
jazz fusion and then dissonant classical music

00:29:54.809 --> 00:29:57.410
all at once, could that survive in an algorithm

00:29:57.410 --> 00:30:00.410
-driven world? Or was Frank Zappa a singular

00:30:00.410 --> 00:30:02.990
moment in time where the weirdness successfully

00:30:02.990 --> 00:30:06.029
hacked the system? In a world of curated playlists,

00:30:06.150 --> 00:30:08.349
Frank Zappa demands that you listen to the entire

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library. It's a lot to ask, but the reward is

00:30:11.029 --> 00:30:13.400
a whole universe of sound. Something to think

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about the next time you reach for that skip button.

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Thanks for diving deep with us. We'll see you

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next time.
