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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are tackling

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a subject that is, well... It's quite literally

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too big to ignore. It's everywhere. It really

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is. We're talking about a legacy that's visible

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in pretty much every corner of the globe and

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certainly every corner of the United States.

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You see the blue vests. You see that Spark logo.

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You see the massive parking lots. It's part of

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the physical landscape now. Absolutely. It's

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just woven into the fabric of daily life. But

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the machinery behind that landscape, it's arguably

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the most efficient economic engine ever built.

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by a single human being. It's a legacy that defines

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modern retail. Yeah. I mean, it didn't just participate

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in global commerce. It effectively rewrote the

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rules. It absolutely did. But before we get into

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the stores and the trucks and the, you know,

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the supply chains, I want to throw some numbers

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at you, because when we talk about this specific

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family, the numbers just they kind of stop making

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sense to the average human brain. Oh, yeah. They're

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abstract. Yeah. It creates a distortion field

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almost. The wealth is so vast. It's just hard

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to comprehend on a human scale. Exactly. So let's

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just look at the bank account for a second. As

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of January 2025, the family behind this empire,

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the Waltons, they remain the richest family in

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the United States. Still. After all these years.

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Still. We are talking about a collective net

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worth of approximately $440 .6 billion. That

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is just a staggering amount of capital concentrated

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in one lineage. To put that in perspective for

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you, that's a GDP larger than many mid -sized

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nations. Wow. It's wealth that generates its

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own gravity, you know. And the company itself,

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it grew to be the world's largest corporation

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by revenue. And not just that, it is also the

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biggest private employer on the planet. Which

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means the decisions made inside that company,

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don't just affect shareholders, but even close.

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They affect labor markets, global supply chains,

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and local economies everywhere. In what way?

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Well, think about it. If they decide to change

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a policy on, say, cardboard packaging, the entire

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global packaging industry has to pivot. That

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is the level of influence we're discussing here.

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Precisely. And honestly, when you hear Walmart...

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You probably have a very specific image in your

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head. Maybe it's the greeter at the door. Maybe

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it's the rollback smiley face. Or maybe it's

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just the sheer convenience of buying, I don't

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know, tires and milk in the same trip. Right.

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It's a brand. It's a fixture. But today we aren't

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just talking about the brand. We're going back

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to the source. We're asking a very simple yet

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incredibly confusing question. How does a farm

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boy from Kingfisher, Oklahoma, who grew up milking

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cows during the Great Depression, build an engine

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that literally changes the global economy? It

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is the story of Sam Walton. All right. And to

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understand the empire, you really have to understand

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the man because the DNA of Walmart is, for all

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intents and purposes, the DNA of Sam Walton.

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It's his neuroses, his drive, his values. All

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of it just scaled up to a global level. Samuel

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Moore Walton, born 1918, died in 1992. And the

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contrast between how he started and how he finished

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is, it's what really gets me. It's dramatic.

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We have this image of him near the end of his

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life. He's 74. He's in a hospital bed in Little

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Rock, Arkansas. He's got bone cancer. He is literally

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days away from dying. And most people in that

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situation are, you know, saying their goodbyes.

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They're sleeping or maybe watching TV. But not

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Sam. No. According to his son, Rob, he's in that

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bed reviewing sales data. In the hospital bed.

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Days before he died. Yeah. He's got the spreadsheets

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for the entire chain spread out. He wants to

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know how the stores are doing. That is a level

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of obsession that I think we really need to unpack

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because you just don't get from milking the family

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cow to reviewing billions in sales data on your

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deathbed without a very specific and very intense

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personality type. That isn't just hard work.

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That's something else. That's a fundamental inability

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to switch off the engine. And that really is

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the mission of this deep dive. We want to move

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past the logo and the storefronts. We want to

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analyze the specific strategic pivots, the failures.

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And believe me, there were significant failures.

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failures and the logistical innovations that

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Sam Walden pioneered. Yeah. We're going to talk

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about something later called the Newport lease

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disaster, which it sounds like a legal thriller,

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but it's actually the origin story of his entire

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business philosophy. It was a catastrophe for

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him at the time, a total disaster, but it was

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a necessary one. It was his real world MBA moment

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before he ever really got started. And we're

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also going to talk about the Meiser influence

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and how Walton wasn't always the brilliant inventor,

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but he might have been the best copycat in business

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history. Hey, adaptation is its own form of genius.

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And he knew that better than anyone. So buckle

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up. This is a story of resilience, obsession

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with detail. And what happens when you apply

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a certain kind of rural strategy to global capitalism?

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Let's start at the very beginning. Section one,

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the foundation. And context is everything here.

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Sam Walton wasn't born into retail royalty. He

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wasn't some dynasty kid. He was born in 1918

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to Thomas and Nancy Walton in Kingfisher, Oklahoma.

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In 1918. That's upside. That sets him up to grow

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up right alongside the Great Depression. His

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formative years are defined by it. Exactly. And

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the family dynamic was, well, it was interesting.

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They lived on a farm initially, but farming in

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the early 20s in Oklahoma wasn't exactly a goldmine.

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It just didn't provide enough money to raise

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the family. So his father, Thomas Walton, had

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to pivot. He did. He went into farm mortgaging.

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He started working for his brother's company,

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the Walton Mortgage Company, which was an agent

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for Metropolitan Life Insurance. Okay, so he

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goes from working the land himself to handling

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the paper for the land. And it was a grim job,

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especially then. This was the depression. His

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father was the guy who had four clothes on farms

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when people couldn't pay. Oof. That has to shape

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a kid's perspective on money and stability. I

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mean, watching your dad have to take farms away

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from neighbors, people you probably know because

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they couldn't make their payments. It certainly

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instills a sense of the fragility of success,

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doesn't it? Yeah. You see firsthand that hard

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work isn't always enough if the wider economy

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turns against you. And because of this work,

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the family moved constantly. That's another piece

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of it. They moved from Oklahoma to Missouri,

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just hopping from one small town to another trying

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to scrape by. It's a really important detail.

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He didn't have one single hometown growing up.

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Not really. He had to learn to adapt to new places

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constantly. He had to learn to read rooms, make

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friends fast. And figure out the social hierarchy

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of a new school instantly. He got good at it.

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Eventually they did settle in Columbia, Missouri.

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But that scrappiness was just baked into him

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from a very early age. And there's this philosophy

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he talked about later in life, this idea of being

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a giver versus taker. Yes. This comes from his

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childhood chores, right? I read that he wasn't

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just doing chores for pocket money. It was way

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more serious than that. He was contributing to

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the family's actual survival. It was essential

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labor. It wasn't optional. He milked the family

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cow, but he didn't just milk it for the kitchen

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table. He bottled the surplus milk. And drove

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it to customers. He was a dairy delivery man

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as a kid. He was running a tiny distribution

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network at like age 10. And a paperboy. He had

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a paper route for the Columbia Daily Tribune.

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And on top of that, he sold magazine subscriptions.

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So he was just hustling on multiple fronts from

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day one. He said later in life that he learned

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from a very early age that it was important for

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kids to help provide for the home, to be givers,

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not takers. That work ethic wasn't just about

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earning his keep. It was about contributing to

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the survival of the family unit. That's a subtle

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difference, but it's a big one. It's the difference

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between I want some money for candy and I need

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to help put food on the table. That has to wire

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your brain differently about the value of a dollar

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and the purpose of work. Precisely. And that

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drive didn't just manifest in labor. He was incredibly

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achievement -oriented in his social and academic

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life, too. I mean, if there was a badge to earn

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or a title to win, Sam Walton wanted it. Yeah,

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I was looking at his list of accolades from when

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he was young. It's almost annoying how good he

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was at everything. You know that kid in school

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who's good at sports gets straight A's and is

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also, like, super nice and popular? That was

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him. He was just highly, highly driven. In the

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eighth grade, when he was living in Shelby and

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Missouri, he became the youngest Eagle Scout

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in the state's history at that time. The youngest

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in the whole state? In eighth grade? That's intense.

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That requires a level of organizational discipline

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that most adults don't have. It is. And it wasn't

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a fluke. Later in life, he actually received

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the Distinguished Eagle Scout Award from the

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Boy Scouts of America, which is a huge honor.

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But it wasn't just scouting. In high school,

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at David H. Hickman High School in Columbia,

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he was voted... Most versatile boy. Most versatile

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boy. I love that. It sounds like a superlative

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that doesn't exist anymore, but it fits him perfectly,

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doesn't it? He wasn't just the smart kid or the

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jock. He was the guy who could do it all. And

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that versatility just continued right into college.

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He went to the University of Missouri. He was

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an ROTC cadet. He waited tables in exchange for

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meals again. That constant necessity to work.

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He wasn't coasting on family money. He was literally

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working for his supper, even in college. Not

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at all. He joined the Beta Theta Pi fraternity.

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He was tapped by QEBH, which was this secret

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society, honoring the top senior men on campus.

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And he was in the Military Honor Society, scabbard

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and blade. He was a joiner. He was a leader.

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But here's the one that really stands out to

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me. Looking back at his future career, leading

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a massive organization. He served as president

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of the Burrell Bible class. What is that exactly?

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It sounds huge. It was. It was a large class

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made up of students from both the University

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of Missouri and the nearby Stevens College. We're

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talking about leading a massive volunteer group

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of his peers. OK, so that requires charisma.

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That requires real organization. You can't just

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order people to do things in a situation like

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that. You have to inspire them. It's community

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organizing, basically. And it tells you something

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that when he graduated in 1940 with a degree

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in economics, his classmates voted him. Permanent

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president of the class. Permanent president.

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That implies he was the guy everyone looked to.

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The natural leader of the pack. He just had that

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magnetic quality. He wasn't just a grinder. He

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was a leader of people from a very early age.

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So he graduates in 1940. The world is on the

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absolute brink of chaos with World War II. But

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before the war fully pulls him in, he gets his

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first real taste of corporate retail. He does.

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Three days after graduation, he joins JCPenney

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as a management trainee. In Des Moines, Iowa.

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Yep. Three days. He didn't take a gap year or

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a summer off. He went straight to work. And the

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pay, what was he making? $75 a month. $75 a month.

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Wow. I know inflation is a thing, but even back

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then, that's humble. That is starting at the

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absolute bottom of the ladder. It was a starting

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wage. Yeah. But this is where he learns the system.

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JCPenney was a machine. They had manuals. They

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had procedures. They had protocols for everything.

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And Sam just soaked it all up. How long was he

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there? He spent about 18 months there. But then,

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you know, history calls. He resigned in 1942,

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anticipating he'd be inducted into the military

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for the war effort. And this is where that logistics

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brain starts to get some formal high -stakes

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training, I imagine. He wasn't on the front lines

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charging beaches, was he? No. Due to a minor

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heart irregularity, he wasn't cleared for combat.

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So he joined the U .S. Army Intelligence Corps.

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He ended up reaching the rank of captain. And

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what was his role? His job was supervising security

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at aircraft plants and prisoner of war camps.

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For instance, he served for a time at Fort Douglas

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in Salt Lake City, Utah. Okay, stop and think

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about that. Supervising security at an aircraft

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plant during wartime. That is all about systems,

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details, preventing loss, monitoring the flow

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of people and materials. Exactly. Intelligence

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work requires a meticulous, almost obsessive

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attention to detail. You have to understand vulnerabilities

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in a system. You have to understand choke points.

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You have to look for the cracks in the wall before

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someone else exploits them. Those are skills

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that are 100 % directly transferable to retail

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logistics and loss prevention. If you can secure

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an aircraft plant, you can probably secure a

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supply chain. It's the same mindset. So the war

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ends. It's 1945. Captain Sam Walton is a civilian

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again. He's married now to Helen Robson. They

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married in 43. And he's got this idea. He wants

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to start his own business. He's ready to build

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something for himself. He said he realized while

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he was in the Army that retailing was what he

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wanted to do. He's 26 years old. 26. OK. So this

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brings us to section two, the Newport Crucible.

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This is where the rubber really meets the road.

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This is the origin story, but it's also kind

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of a tragedy. He takes over his first store.

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It's a Ben Franklin variety store, a franchise

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in Newport, Arkansas. And the financing of this

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is really interesting. It highlights the importance

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of family capital. Yeah, the whole self -made

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man myth often kind of... conveniently skips

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the part about the loan. Right. So he had $5

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,000 that he had saved from his time in the Army,

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which in itself is pretty impressive. That's

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disciplined saving on a captain's pay. That's

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a lot of saved pay, yeah. But the store cost

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more than that. So he got a $20 ,000 loan from

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his father -in -law, Leland Robson. Which is

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a massive boost. That's the seed money. That's

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the rocket fuel to get off the ground. It is.

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It's everything. The store was a franchise of

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the Butler Brothers chain. And right away, Walton

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starts testing his theories. He had this specific

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insight about hometown shopping. What was the

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theory? What was the prevailing wisdom he was

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fighting against? Well, the assumption back then

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was that if you lived in a small town like Newport

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and you wanted a good deal or a wide selection,

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you got in the car and you drove four hours to

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the city. Small town stores were almost always

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more expensive because of lower volume. Okay,

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that makes sense. Walton wanted to flip that

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on its head. He believed that if he offered prices

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that were as good as or even better than the

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stores in the big cities, people would choose

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to shop at home. It sounds so obvious to us now,

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but back then that was a revolutionary thought.

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He was betting that convenience plus price would

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always win. Exactly. So he hustled. He ensured

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shelves were consistently stocked with a huge

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range of goods. He'd drive to other states to

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buy inventory cheap. He was relentless. And it

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worked, right? Oh, it worked spectacularly. In

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just three years, he grew the annual sales from

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$80 ,000 to $225 ,000. Wow. That's nearly tripling

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the business. He must have felt like a genius.

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He's the king of Newport retail. He's figured

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it out. He probably did. But, you know, success

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attracts attention. And this is where the Newport

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lease disaster happens. The MBA moment. The villain

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enters the story. The landlord. A man named P

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.K. Holmes. He noticed that this young, ambitious

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guy, Sam Walton, was making an absolute fortune

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in his building. And Holmes had a family history

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in retail. And more importantly, he had a son.

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Oh, I think I see where this is going. Nice little

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store you've built there. It'd be a shame if

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someone else took it over. That's pretty much

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it. Holmes decided he wanted the successful store

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for his own son. He wanted the Ben Franklin franchise

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rights back for that location. But can he just

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do that? Can he just take it? He could. Because

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26 -year -old Sam Walton had made a rookie mistake,

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a fatal error really. In his eagerness to get

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the store and get started, he had failed to secure

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a renewal option in his lease. Oh, Sam. And not

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only that, but the rent he'd agreed to was a

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prohibitively high 5 % of sales. So as he got

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more successful, his rent just skyrocketed. So

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Holmes basically just had to wait for the lease

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to run out and then say, I'm not renewing, get

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out. That's what happened. He built the business.

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He proved the concept. He did all the hard work.

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And then he got evicted because he didn't read

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the fine print. Right. Or more accurately, he

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didn't negotiate the fine print. That has to

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be absolutely devastating. You're young. You're

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on top of the world. And you lose it all because

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you didn't control the real estate. It was the

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defining failure of his early career. And almost

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every analysis of Walton points to this moment

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as the thing that fueled his lifelong obsession

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with control. He swore he would never, ever be

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vulnerable on real estate again. So he's kicked

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out of Newport. He's got $50 ,000 in his pocket

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from selling the inventory and fixtures to homes.

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He has a wife, a young son, and a very bruised

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ego. What's the next move? He rebounds, and this

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leads us to Section 3, the Bentonville rebound.

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Bentonville, Arkansas, which is now, of course,

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the global headquarters of Walmart, the center

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of the retail universe. But back then, it was

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just another small town. A very small town, even

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smaller than Newport. And Walton is under a lot

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of pressure. His wife, Helen, is pregnant with

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her second child. He has limited time to find

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a new source of income. He needs to get something

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going fast. He finds a spot on the downtown square,

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right? A little variety store. He does. He negotiates

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for a small discount store. But remember the

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lesson from Newport. Never again. No short leases.

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Control the property. Exactly. So he didn't ask

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for a five -year lease. He didn't ask for a 10

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-year lease. He demanded. A 99 -year lease. 99

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years. He went from, oops, I forgot a renewal

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option, to I'm going to be here until the next

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century. That's an overcorrection if I've ever

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seen it. He was not taking any chances. But there

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was a catch. To really make the store work, to

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get the volume he needed, he had to expand into

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the shop next door. He needed more space. And

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the neighbor said yes. The neighbor refused.

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Six times. Six times. So Walton is stuck. He's

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found the perfect town. He's got the lease terms

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he wants for the main store, but he can't get

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the expansion space he needs. The whole deal

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is about to fall apart. He had all but given

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up on Bentonville. He was looking at other towns.

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But then his father -in -law, Leland Robson,

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steps in again. And this is the secret deal.

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What did he do this time? Without telling Sam

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at first, Leland Robson went and paid the neighboring

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shop owner a visit. and he paid him $20 ,000

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just to secure the lease. He just walked in and

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handed him $20 ,000 to sign the paper. Essentially,

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it was what they called key money. It was a bribe,

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practically, or at least a very, very aggressive

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incentive. Wow. And Sam had just enough left

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from the sale of the Newport store, that $50

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,000, to close the deal and reimburse Helen's

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father. So once again, that family capital saves

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the day. But this time, it got him the location

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and the terms he wanted. It did. They opened

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Walton's Five and Dime on May 9, 1950. They had

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a huge one -day remodeling sale to kick things

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off. And the numbers. Did his success from Newport

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translate? Immediately. The previous owner had

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been doing about $72 ,000 a year in sales. In

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his first year, Walton hit $105 ,000. The next

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year, $140 ,000. Then $175 ,000. He just has

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the Midas touch. He walks in, applies his system

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of low prices and high volume, and the revenue

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just explodes. But now he has a new problem.

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A good problem. The model is working so well

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that he wants to expand. He starts opening other

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Ben Franklin franchises in the region. And managing

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multiple stores across multiple states in the

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1950s is not a simple task. No, especially when

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they're hundreds of miles apart. Driving everywhere

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was just eating up all his time. And this brings

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us to one of the coolest images in American business

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history. The pilot strategy. Yes, the airplane.

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He just decides driving is too slow, I'll fly.

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He bought a small second -hand airplane, a little

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two -seater. And he didn't just hire a pilot.

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He learned to fly it himself. And his brother,

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James Bud Walton, who was a pilot in the war,

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he joined the business around this time, too.

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He did. And so you have this image of the two

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Walton brothers flying this tiny little plane

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all over Arkansas, Missouri, and Kansas. Imagine

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looking up from your farm in rural Arkansas in

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the 1950s and seeing this little plane circling

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your town over and over again. It's the Walton

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brothers looking for real estate. That's exactly

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what they were doing. They used the plane to

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scout locations. They could see the layout of

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towns. They could see the traffic patterns. They

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could spot where the town was growing. It was

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an incredible aerial advantage. It's like Google

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Earth before Google Earth existed. Exactly. And

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it allowed them to spot opportunities way faster

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than any competitor who was stuck on the ground

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in a car. But even with a plane, you can't be

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in all those stores at once. So he has to learn

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to delegate. He has to trust other people to

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run his stores. And this leads to another critical

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managerial innovation. He didn't just want to

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hire managers. He wanted to create partners.

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He encouraged them to invest in the business.

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To put their own money in. Yes. He strongly encouraged

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his managers to take an equity stake, often as

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much as $1 ,000, which was a lot of money then,

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in their own store. or in the next outlet to

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open. That is absolutely brilliant because if

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I put $1 ,000 of my own hard -earned money into

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the store I'm managing, I'm not just an employee

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anymore. I'm an owner. I'm a partner. It created

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an ownership mentality. It motivated his managers

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to sharpen their skills, to watch every penny

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because their own capital was at risk and their

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own reward was directly on the line. If you have

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skin in the game, you make sure the floor is

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swept and the customers are happy. You do. And

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with that model, by 1962, he and Bud owned 16

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stores across Arkansas, Missouri, and Kansas.

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He's a very successful regional franchise owner.

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He's rich. He could have just coasted right there.

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He could have, but he saw the landscape changing.

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He saw the future of retail, and it wasn't variety

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stores. It was something bigger. And that brings

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us to Section 4, the birth of Walmart. 1962,

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the year everything changed. He makes the big

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pivot. He does. True Walmart opened on July 10,

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1962 in Rogers, Arkansas, and it was called Walmart

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Discount City. Discount City. It sounds like

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a theme park for bargains. I love it. It essentially

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was. The core philosophy from day one was a determined

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effort to market American -made products. He

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wanted to find U .S. manufacturers who could

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supply his entire chain at prices low enough

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to compete with and beat foreign competition.

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Now, was this whole discount superstore idea

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purely original? Did a light bulb just go off

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in his head one day? Not entirely. And Walton,

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to his credit, was the first to admit it. He's

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a great observer, and he was heavily influenced

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by the Meijer chain. Meijer, like the grocery

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and general merchandise stores in the Midwest.

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Yes. As the Meijer chain grew, it really caught

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Walton's attention. He later acknowledged that

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his whole one -stop shopping center format was

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based directly on Meijer's original innovative

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concept. I love that he admitted it. He wasn't

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trying to pretend he was this lone genius inventor.

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He was a pragmatist. He was looking for what

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worked and how he could do it better. He was

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a master of borrowing good ideas and then refining

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them, perfecting them. But he added a twist that

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was purely, uniquely Walton. The rural strategy.

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This is the contrarian thinking. This is where

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he goes against the entire industry. Absolutely.

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The prevailing wisdom, the rule book at the time,

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was that big discount stores belong in big cities.

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You need population density. You need millions

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of people to support that kind of volume. Right.

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You put the store where the people are. That's

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retail 101. It's the most basic rule. Walton

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said, now, I'm going to do the opposite. I'm

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going to put my giant stores in small towns.

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Why? I mean. On the surface, that seems incredibly

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risky. For two very specific reasons. First,

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the competition was limited, or in many cases,

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non -existent. In a small town, you might have

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a few mom -and -pop shops, but you didn't have

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a Kmart or a Sears. Okay, so you get to be the

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big fish in a very small pond. Second, and this

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is the real strategic genius of it, was creating

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what he called the moat. The moat. Break that

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down for us. What does that mean? His theory

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was this. If a store was large enough and offered

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prices low enough to control the retail business

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in a town and its surrounding areas, it would

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actively discourage other big merchants from

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even trying to enter that market. Ah, it's a

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preemptive strike. If I build a massive Walmart

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in a town of, say, 10 ,000 people, there isn't

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enough market share left for a Kmart or a Target

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to move in later. I've already eaten the whole

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pie. Exactly. You lock down the market before

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your competitors even notice it exists. You build

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protective wall, a moat, around the town by soaking

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up all the retail demand. It was brilliant. But

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to make this work, to service all these stores

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out in the middle of nowhere, you need world

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-class logistics. We're back to the systems.

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You can't just open a giant store in a cornfield

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and hope the trucks show up with enough merchandise.

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So Walton established a non -negotiable rule.

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Every single store must be within a single day's

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drive of a regional warehouse. A day's drive.

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That is the tether. That's the radius of the

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empire. And he didn't rely on third party logistics

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companies. He built his own fleet, Walmart's

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own trucking service. This gave him complete

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control and allowed them to buy an absolutely

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massive volume and distribute it with incredible

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efficiency. So he's buying name brand merchandise,

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but because he's buying trainloads of it and

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moving it himself, he can sell it for cheaper

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than the local guy who's just buying a few cases

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at a time. And that model fueled the explosive

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growth. It went from 190 stores in 1977 to 800

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stores in 1985. That is just exponential. 190

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to 800 in only eight years. It was a rocket ship.

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It was a retail conquest of rural and suburban

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America. So while he is building this absolute

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rocket ship of a company, what's happening in

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his personal life? Let's look at Section 5. He

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can't just be working all the time. Well, he

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mostly was working all the time. But yes, he

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remained married to Helen Robson his whole life.

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They had their four children, Rob, John, Jim,

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and Alice. And despite the rapidly growing fortune,

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they really stayed grounded in Bentonville and

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in certain values. Very much so. They were very

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active in the First Presbyterian Church in Bentonville.

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Sam was an elder in the church. He taught Sunday

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school. Can you even imagine that? You drop your

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kid off at Sunday school, and the teacher is,

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by this point, the richest man in America. He

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taught the high school age students. And this

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religious context is actually pretty important

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for understanding the company's official culture.

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Walton integrated the concept of service leadership

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into the corporate structure. Service leadership.

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What does that look like in a boardroom or on

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a store floor? It's based on the Christian concept

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of serving others. He emphasized that leaders

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should serve their teams and their customers.

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It wasn't just a poster on the wall. It was a

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structural philosophy. The home office serves

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the stores, the manager serves the associate,

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and the associate serves the customer. It's an

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inverted pyramid. Now let's talk about the wealth,

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because by the 1980s, the secret was out. You

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can't hide 800 stores and billions in sales.

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No, you can't. Forbes magazine ranked him the

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richest person in the United States every year

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from 1982 to 1988. Number one, he was beating

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everyone, beating the old money Rockefellers,

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the tech guys, everyone. He only lost that top

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spot in 1989 because Forbes made an editorial

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decision to start splitting the family fortune

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among him and his four children for the list.

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So he was still the richest, technically. The

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money was just being counted in different buckets

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for the sake of the magazine. Correct. But even

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with all that money and success, he started to

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face some significant personal health battles.

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Yeah. This is the part that kind of humanizes

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him again after all the talk of billions and

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business strategy. In 1982, he was diagnosed

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with hairy cell leukemia, which is a rare type

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of blood cancer. And later? Later, in 1990, he

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was diagnosed with bone cancer. He went through

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radiation, chemotherapy. He was being treated

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at MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. But

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he didn't stop working, did he? Never. As we

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mentioned right at the top of the show, just

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a week before his death in April of 1992, he

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was in his hospital bed looking at sales data.

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He died at 74. He did. The news of his death

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was relayed by the company's satellite system

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to all 1 ,960 stores simultaneously. Think about

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that for a second. 1 ,960 stores. That's the

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scale of the morning. That's a small nation of

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employees hearing the news at the same time.

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And at the time of his death, the company employed

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about 400 ,000 people. The annual sales were

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approaching $50 billion. And that really brings

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us to the legacy section six, the world after

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Sam Walton. And you can't talk about his legacy

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without talking about the Walmart effect. It's

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an actual term economists use, right? It's not

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just a casual phrase. Oh, absolutely. It's a

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subject of serious academic study. It describes

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the significant impact, both positive and negative,

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on any region where a Walmart store establishes

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itself. So what does that look like? Well, it

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changes local economies in profound ways. It

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dramatically lowers prices for consumers, which

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is a huge benefit for working class and low income

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families. But on the other side, it puts immense

00:28:45.769 --> 00:28:48.809
downward pressure on local wages and, of course,

00:28:48.869 --> 00:28:50.990
on competing businesses. It can wipe out entire

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main streets. It's a force of nature. It's like

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an economic weather event that moves into a town.

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And the global footprint today is just massive.

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They have operations in countries ranging from

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Argentina and China to Zambia and the United

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Kingdom. And the family remains deeply involved.

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Yes. The ownership was left to his wife and children.

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His eldest son, Rob Walton, became chairman of

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the board. John was a director until his tragic

00:29:14.779 --> 00:29:17.559
death in a plane crash in 2005. And his youngest

00:29:17.559 --> 00:29:19.940
son, Jim Walton, is the chairman of Arvis Bank,

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which is the family's regional bank. I remember

00:29:22.140 --> 00:29:24.380
reading that at one point the family held five

00:29:24.380 --> 00:29:27.180
of the top ten spots on the richest people list.

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They did. Up until about 2005. Five out of ten.

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Half the list was just one family. It really

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is a modern dynasty. So we've unpacked a lot

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here. From the cow milking in the Depression

00:29:39.019 --> 00:29:42.059
to the airplane scouting in the 50s to this globe

00:29:42.059 --> 00:29:44.500
-spanning empire. It's a journey from a lost

00:29:44.500 --> 00:29:48.019
lease in Newport, a single devastating mistake.

00:29:48.589 --> 00:29:51.710
to total world dominance. When you boil it all

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down, what's the aha moment for you? What's the

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central insight? For me, it's that it wasn't

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just about low prices. I mean, everybody wants

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low prices. The aha. moment is realizing that

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the prices were a result of something else they

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were the result of logistics of real estate control

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and of the sheer courage to bet on small towns

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when every other expert was looking at the big

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cities he zagged when the entire world zigged

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and he built the infrastructure the warehouses

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the trucks to support that zag that's the key

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i agree so here's my final thought for you listening

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at home we talked about his philosophy of service

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leadership This idea rooted in his faith of serving

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others. How does that philosophy reconcile with

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the aggressive, often destructive market dominance

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of the Walmart effect? That is the central paradox

00:30:39.019 --> 00:30:41.500
of Sam Walton, isn't it? Can you be a servant

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leader and a market dominator at the exact same

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time? I think in his own mind, there was no contradiction.

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He truly believed that by lowering prices and

00:30:50.180 --> 00:30:52.519
making goods more accessible, he was serving

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the community. He was raising the standard of

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living for the American working class. Whether

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the ultimate cost of that service was too high,

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well, that's for history and for all of us to

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decide. Next time you drive past a Walmart, don't

00:31:05.460 --> 00:31:07.200
just look at the store. Look at the trucks pulling

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in and out. Look at the logistics of it all.

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And remember the farm boy who just wanted to

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beat the prices in the big city. Thanks for listening

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to The Deep Dive. See you next time.
