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You know, we talk a lot on this show about disruptors.

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And usually that word, it makes you think of

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Silicon Valley, right? Guys in hoodies, lines

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of code that change how we hail a taxi or order

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a pizza. But today, I want to talk about a disruptor

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who did it with a silk tie. Yeah. A guy who looked

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at the American class system, which was, I mean...

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pretty rigidly defined in the mid -20th century

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and said, I'm going to hack this. It really is

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a hack, isn't it? It's a social hack. Exactly.

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We are looking at a man who essentially invented

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an entire aesthetic. And I don't just mean a

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style of shirt. I mean the whole world. All world.

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A world of manicured lawns, roaring fireplaces,

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vintage convertibles, and this very specific,

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very golden version of the American dream. It's

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a world that feels old, you know, like it's been

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there since the Mayflower. But the reality. and

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this is what we are here to unpack, is that it

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wasn't inherited. It was built. It was manufactured

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from scratch by one man in his lifetime. It's

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a masterclass in storytelling, branding, and

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pure, unadulterated business grit. We are diving

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deep today into the life and the massive business

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empire of Ralph Lauren. And the timing is, well...

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It's perfect. As we look at the landscape here

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in May 2025, Ralph Lauren is 86 years old. 86.

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He is sitting on a net worth estimated at 11

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.9 billion U .S. dollars. And just a few months

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ago, in January 2025. He became the first fashion

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designer to ever receive the Presidential Medal

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of Freedom. Which, just to pause there, is a

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massive deal. That is the nation's highest civilian

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honor. Right. When you look at the list of recipients,

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it is usually statesmen, scientists, civil rights

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activists. For a fashion designer to break into

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that tier, it says something profound about his

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impact. He didn't just dress America. He helped

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define how America sees itself. He sort of curated

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the national image. And that is the hook for

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me. Because if you look at the glossy ads, you

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see this image of old money, of aristocracy.

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But the man behind it, he started out working

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from a single drawer in the Empire State Building.

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Not an office. Not an office, a drawer. And he

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was delivering the goods himself. It is the ultimate

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contrast. And that is our mission for this deep

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dive. We are going to unpack the business of

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this dream. We aren't just looking at the polo

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shirts or the color palettes. We are looking

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at how a kid from the Bronx built a lifestyle

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empire. how he revolutionized retail architecture,

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how he amassed one of the most valuable car collections

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on the planet, literally worth hundreds of millions,

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and how he stepped in to save the actual Star

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Spangled Banner. I love that story about the

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flag. It feels like the perfect metaphor for

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his life. But we have to start at the beginning.

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Yeah. Because before he was Ralph Lauren, the

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global icon, he was a kid named Ralph Lischitz.

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That's right. Born October 14, 1939, the Bronx,

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New York. His parents, Frida and Frank. were

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Ashkenazi Jewish immigrants from Pinsk, Belarus.

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And just to set the scene, because context is

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everything here. Right. This wasn't the country

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club life he would later depict in his ads. Not

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at all. This was the Bronx in the 40s and 50s.

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His dad wasn't playing polo. He was an artist

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and a house painter. Ralph was the youngest of

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four siblings. It was a very grounded immigrant

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upbringing. And that immigrant experience is

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crucial. If you don't understand that, you don't

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understand the brand. You have this intense desire

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to assimilate, to become American, whatever that...

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meant at the time. For that generation of Jewish

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immigrants in New York, there was a palpable

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pressure to fit in to smooth out the edges of

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the old country. And for Ralph, that desire manifested

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in a very specific and frankly, a very painful

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way around the age of 16. The name change. Now,

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this is often the first thing people bring up

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about him. Sometimes cynically they say, oh,

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he changed his name to sound fancy. Yeah, that's

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the common take. But the source material paints

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a much, much darker picture. It does. Look, we

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have to be real about this. His last name was

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Lipschitz. Right. He's a teenager in an American

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high school in the 1950s. The name contains a

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literal obscenity in English. He wasn't changing

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his name because he had a grand vision of a fashion

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label yet. He was changing it because he was

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getting hammered. Bullying. Relentless bullying.

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The notes were explicit about this. And he wasn't

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even the first in his family to make the change.

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Oh, I didn't realize that. Yeah, his older brother,

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Jerry, had already changed his surname to Lauren.

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Why? Because he had been bullied while serving

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in the U .S. Air Force. Wow. Think about that.

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You are serving your country, wearing the uniform,

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and you are still a target because of your name.

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So when Ralph and his brother, George, decided

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to change their name from Lifshitz to Lauren

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at age 16... It wasn't an aesthetic choice. It

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was a survival tactic. Exactly. It was a protective

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measure. But here is the fascinating psychological

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pivot. By changing his name, he essentially learned

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the first lesson of branding. What's that? The

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label on the package changes how people treat

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the contents. Whether that package is a boy from

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the Bronx or a necktie, the name dictates the

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value perception. He rebranded himself before

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he ever branded a product. That is a brilliant

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insight. He realized he could edit his own story.

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And he wasn't alone in that environment, was

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he, in the Bronx at that time? Not at all. He

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attended the Manhattan Talmudical Academy and

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then DeWitt Clinton High School, graduating in

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1957. And if you look at his cohort, it's actually

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staggering. He was part of this incredible generation

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of... design leaders raised in the Jewish community

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in the Bronx. Like who? You had Calvin Klein.

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You had Robert Denning. What was in the water

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in the Bronx back then? It's the outsider's perspective.

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That's what I think it is. When you are on the

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outside looking in at the good life, at the WASPy

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culture, the Ivy League world, you observe it

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more. continually than the people actually living

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it. You study it. You study it. You deconstruct

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it. Ralph Lauren, Calvin Klein, they were analyzing

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American style with a forensic eye because they

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wanted to be part of it. So he graduates high

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school, goes to Baruch College to study business.

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Briefly. Right. Very briefly. He drops out after

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two years. And then he joins the army. From 1962

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to 1964. I think this period is often overlooked

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in the biographies. But for a young man in that

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era, military service was another layer of that

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Americanization process. It puts you in a uniform.

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It creates a sense of belonging to the national

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identity. It's the ultimate equalizer. So he

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comes out of the army and this is where the hustle

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really begins. And I want to spend some time

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here because people think Ralph Lauren and they

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think instant success. But he didn't jump straight

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into designing couture. No way. He went into

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the trenches of sales. And this is the best training

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ground for any entrepreneur. He worked as a sales

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assistant at Brooks Brothers. Then he became

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a salesman for a necktie company called Rivets.

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Okay. This is critical. He learned the floor.

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He learned what people bought. He learned the

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tactile reality of the business. He wasn't in

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a design studio sketching fantasy dresses. He

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was seeing what guys were actually willing to

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pull their wallets out for. But he wasn't satisfied

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just selling other people's stuff. And he certainly

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wasn't satisfied with the style of the time.

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No. And here's the spark. He is 28 years old.

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He is working for a tie manufacturer called Bo

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Brummel. Now, in 1967, what did a tie look like?

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Skinny, right? Very narrow. Skinny. It was dark.

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It was conservative. It was, frankly... Boring.

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It was the Mad Men era uniform, but the tail

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end of it where it had lost its soul. And Ralph

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wanted to do something different. Radical, actually.

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He wanted to make ties wide. He wanted opulent

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fabrics. He wanted them to look like something

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an English duke would wear on a hunting trip.

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Right. He convinces the company president, Beau

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Brummel, to let him start his own line. In 1967,

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the Ralph Lauren Corporation launches. And it

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starts with just ties. It ties. This leads us

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to that famous drawer story I mentioned in the

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intro. And I want you to paint the picture for

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us because this is the definition of starting

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lean. It's a great image. 1968, he launches his

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first full menswear line, which he names Polo.

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But he doesn't have a glitzy headquarters. He

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doesn't have a receptionist. He is working out

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of a single drawer in his showroom in the Empire

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State Building. Single drawer? I mean, imagine

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that. You are in one of the most famous buildings

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in the world, a symbol of American power, but

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your entire business footprint fits in a piece

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of furniture. And he wasn't sitting back waiting

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for orders. The source material notes that he

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made deliveries to stores himself. Wow. That

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is the grit behind the glamour. He is hauling

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doxes of ties and shirts through the streets

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of New York, probably sweating through his suit,

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dealing with loading docks and inventory managers.

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And there's a story about Bloomingdale's here

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that I think defines his business character.

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The source material touches on his breakthrough

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there. But the context is that he initially faced

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rejection. He did. And this is the business of

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the American dream lesson right here. When he

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first pitched his wide ties to Bloomingdale's,

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they said yes. OK, so they liked them. They liked

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them, but with a condition. They said, we'll

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take them, but you have to make them narrower

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and you have to take your name off the label.

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We want to put the Bloomingdale's house brand

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on them. That's a standard retailer move. We

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own the customer. You're just the manufacturer.

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Exactly. And most young entrepreneurs, desperate

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for cash, working out of a drawer, would have

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said, yes, absolutely. Where do I sign? Of course.

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It's Bloomingdale's. It's the Holy Grail. Yeah.

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But Ralph. What'd he do? He walked away. He said

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no. He closed the sample case and walked out

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of the biggest account in the city. He refused

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to compromise the product integrity or his brand

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identity. Six months later, Bloomingdale's came

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back to him and said, OK, fine, we'll do it your

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way. That takes nerves of steel. It really does.

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And it paid off. By 1969, Bloomingdale's didn't

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just buy the ties. They gave him a shop -and

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-shop boutique. And I want to dig into that term,

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shop -and -shop, because it sounds like retail

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jargon, but it was actually a revolution. It

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was a total paradigm shift. Before this, if you

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were a designer selling to a department store,

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your shirts went on the shirt rack next to 10

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other brands. Your pants went on the pants rack.

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You were a commodity. Right. Ralph realized that

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his product wasn't just a shirt. It was a vibe.

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It was a context. If you put his wide, expensive

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tie next to a cheap, skinny tie, it looks out

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of place. But if you put it next to a mahogany

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shelf, a leather chair, and a picture of a cricket

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match, suddenly it makes sense. So he demanded

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his own real estate inside the store. He demanded

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control. He controlled the lighting, the fixtures,

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the wood paneling. He created a hermetically

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sealed environment within Bloomingdale's where,

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for five minutes, you weren't in a department

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store in New York. You were in Ralph's world.

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Wow. This shifted the power dynamic from the

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retailer to the designer forever. And once he

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proved that worked, he took the next logical

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step. In 1971, he opens a store on Rodeo Drive

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in Beverly Hills. Which was the first freestanding

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store for an American designer. Think about that.

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Before this, American designers were wholesalers.

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They sold to stores. They didn't have stores.

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Ralph Lauren changed the retail model. He said,

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no, I need my own temple. And speaking of temples

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and symbols, we have to talk about the logo,

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the polo player. It is arguably one of the most

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recognizable symbols in global commerce today.

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Oh, for sure. It's up there with the Nike swoosh

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or the golden arches. It is. But here is the

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aha moment from our research. The first time

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that emblem appeared. It wasn't on a men's polo

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shirt. Wait, really? I assumed it started on

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the chest of the men's mesh shirt. No. It was

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1971. He introduced a line of tailored shirts

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for women, menswear -inspired shirts for women.

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And that is where the polo player emblem made

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its debut, right there on the cuff of the women's

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shirt. That is fascinating. So the symbol of

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masculine sport actually debuted in womenswear.

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It did. And the famous mesh... Polo shirt. Yeah.

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The one that is in everyone's closet. That came

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a year later in 1972. The signature cotton mesh

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polo shirt. Okay. And this is where his marketing

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genius really went into overdrive. He didn't

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just put out a shirt. He launched it with a campaign

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that had a tagline. Every team has its color.

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Polo has 17. Every team has its color. That is

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so clever. It implies you are part of a team

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just by wearing it. Exactly. It implies belonging.

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It's tribalism. I wasn't selling a garment. He

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was selling membership. It cemented the shirt

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as the emblem of the preppy look. It democratized

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the country club aesthetic. You didn't need a

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membership to the club. You just needed the $20

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shirt. And then Hollywood came calling. And this

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really supercharged the brand's visibility. It

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took it from fashion to culture. The 1970s were

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the decade where Ralph Lauren became the costume

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designer for the American imagination. First,

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you have The Great Gatsby in 1974. The Robert

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Redford movie, which makes total sense. It makes

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perfect sense. Ralph Lauren outfitted the male

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cast, and specifically, he designed a pink suit

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for Robert Redford's Jay Gatsby. The pink suit,

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of course. Now, let's pause and look at the meta

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-narrative here. Jay Gatsby is a character who

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reinvented himself, who changed his name, who

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built a luxurious world to cover up humble beginnings

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to win over the girl and the society. It is almost

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autobiographical. Ralph Lauren is Jay Gatsby.

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The parallels are impossible to ignore. A poor

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boy who changes his name and builds a castle.

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That's the story. And by dressing Redford in

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that movie, Lauren wasn't just doing a job. He

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was solidifying the visual language of his own

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brand. He was saying, this 1920s grandeur, this

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belongs to me now. And then a totally different

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vibe, but equally influential. Annie Hall in

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1977. Yes. Diane Keaton and Woody Allen wearing

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Lauren's clothes. But specifically Diane Keaton.

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That look, the menswear inspired womenswear,

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the ties, the vests, the baggy trousers, the

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fedora. Iconic. That became iconic. It influenced

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an entire generation of how women dressed. And

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it was all Ralph. He showed that women could

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look powerful and sexy in men's clothes. So he

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conquers menswear, he conquers womenswear, he

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conquers Hollywood. What is left to conquer the

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invisible? Fragrance. And again, he breaks the

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mold here. In 1978, he launches his fragrances.

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But he doesn't just do a women's perfume and

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wait to see if it sells. What does he do? He

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launches a men's cologne and a women's perfume

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simultaneously. Polo for men in the green bottle

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and Lauren for women in the red cube. Correct.

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And the source material points out that this

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was the first time a designer had ever introduced

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two fragrances at once. It reinforced this idea

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that Ralph Lauren wasn't just a brand for him

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or for her. It was a world for us. It was a complete

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lifestyle. You could look like him and now you

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could smell like him. And that world just kept

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getting bigger and more physical. We talked about

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the Rodeo Drive store, but in the 80s, he really

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leveled up with the Rhinelander Mansion. 1986,

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Madison Avenue and 72nd Street. This wasn't just

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a store innovation. He bought this old, incredible

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mansion. And working with a young design consultant

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named Naomi Leff, he didn't modernize it. He

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went back in time. He recreated the building's

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original opulence mahogany staircases, velvet

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drapes, oil paintings. It is an incredible space.

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If you have ever walked in there, it doesn't

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feel like a retail store. It feels like you are

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trespassing in someone's private, very wealthy

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home. And that was the point. He was awarded

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Retailer of the Year by the CFDA in 1986 specifically

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for this, for transforming the cinematic feel

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of his clothing into a physical environment.

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He understood that retail is theater. It's pure

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theater. When you buy a shirt there, you aren't

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just buying cotton. You are buying a souvenir

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from the play. He also took this show on the

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road, international expansion. Huge. 1981, he

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opens on New Bond Street in London, the first

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freestanding store for an American designer in

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the West End. Right. And think about the audacity

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of that. He is taking this American vision. which

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is heavily borrowed from the British gentry,

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and he is selling it back to the British. That

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is a great point. He's selling the British look

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to the British, but with an American twist. And

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it worked because he sold them the fantasy version

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of themselves. Yeah. The version with better

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teeth and better lighting. And then he moved

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into hospitality because if you wear the clothes,

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you need a place to be seen in them. Exactly.

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RL Restaurant in Chicago opened in 1999, then

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Ralph's in Paris in 2010, and the Polo Bar in

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New York in 2015. The Polo Bar is notoriously

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hard to get a reservation at, even today. And

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that's by design. It creates that exclusivity.

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It completes the circle. You dress in Ralph Lauren,

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you eat at Ralph Lauren, you live in Ralph Lauren.

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And purely on a business level, the company grew

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into a behemoth. It did. They went public on

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the New York Stock Exchange on June 12, 1997.

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and the brand diversification was relentless.

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So what did it look like? You had Polo Sport

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in 1992, tapping into the activewear market before

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it was cool. Purple Label in 1995, which was

00:16:51.090 --> 00:16:53.129
his answer to Italian luxury, the ultra high

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-end stuff. Ralph Lauren in 1996 for the department

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store market. And they were early to the internet

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too, right? Surprisingly so. They launched Polo

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.com in 2000. Originally, it was a joint venture

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with NBC called RL Media. which is an interesting

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little historical footnote. Barrel Media. Yeah,

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he understood that media and commerce were merging.

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Later, in 2007, Ralph Lauren acquired the NBC

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share and relaunched it as RalphLauren .com.

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And we can't skip the massive JCPenney deal.

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This one always fascinated me because it seems

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like a risk to the luxury image. American Living,

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launched in 2008. This was a massive cross -category

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launch exclusively for JCPenney. And yes, it

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was a risk. This is the Mastige strategy, mass

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prestige. He showed that while he had the purple

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label for the elite, he never lost sight of the

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mass market. He wanted everyone to have a piece

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of the dream. He understood that you can sell

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a $5 ,000 suit and a $50 towel as long as the

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story connecting them remains consistent. Fast

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forward to 2018, the 50th anniversary. A spectacle.

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Yeah. Held at Bethesda Terrace in Central Park.

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The guest list was a who's who of American culture.

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Oprah Winfrey, Hillary Clinton, Kanye West, Robert

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De Niro. It was a coronation, really. Wow. It

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was the culture bowing down to the creator. Okay,

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so we have established the empire. We see the

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stores, the ads, the billions. But let's look

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at the man living inside it. We know he came

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from humble beginnings, but what about his personal

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life? How does the man himself navigate this

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world he built? Well, in an industry known for

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volatility and short -lived relationships, consistency

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is the key word here. He married Ricky -Ann Loebier

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on December 20th, 1964. They have been married

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for over 60 years. That is where in general,

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but in the fashion world, that is basically a

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statistical anomaly. It is. And the meet cute

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story is charmingly normal. They met in a doctor's

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office. That's doctor's office. Yeah. She was

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working as a receptionist. And on alternate days,

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she was teaching dance. And Ricky isn't just

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in the background. She is an author. She is his

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muse. The Ricky bag is one of their most famous

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products. Absolutely. She wrote The Hamptons,

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Food, Family and History. They have three children,

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Andrew, David and Dylan. Dylan Lauren, the candy

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mogul. That's right. Dylan's candy bar. Yeah.

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She took her father's retail genius and applied

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it to sugar. And David Lauren is heavily involved

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in the company, leading the innovation and marketing.

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Right. And there is a fascinating political connection

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there, too. In 2011. David married Lauren Bush.

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The niece of President George W. Bush. Yes. So

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pause on that for a second. You have the son

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of the Bronx immigrant fashion designer marrying

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the niece of a president and granddaughter of

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another president. It's incredible. It is the

00:19:31.440 --> 00:19:33.539
quintessential American merging of families.

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It's the final step of that assimilation journey

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we talked about at the beginning. The Lifshitz

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family and the Bush family are now one tree.

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Despite all the success, it hasn't been entirely

00:19:44.609 --> 00:19:47.569
smooth sailing. In the late 80s, there was a

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significant health scare that I think shaped

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his perspective on legacy. April 1987, Ralph

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Lauren underwent surgery to remove a brain tumor.

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Wow, that stops you in your tracks. It was benign,

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and he made a full recovery. But for a man building

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an empire, that has to be a moment of reckoning.

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When you face your own mortality, you stop thinking

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about next season's collection and start thinking

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about what you leave behind. It humanizes him.

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He isn't invincible. And while the marriage has

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been long and stable, the source material does

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mention some controversy in the 90s. We should

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address that because it speaks to how the brand

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manages its image. Yes, we have to be thorough.

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In the early 1990s, there were reports of an

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extramarital affair with a model named Kim Nye,

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who was actually featured in the Safari Fragrance

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campaign. And how did Loren handle that? Well,

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reports say he sought to remove these details

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from biographies. He wanted to protect the image,

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both his personal image and the brand's image.

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Because remember, the brand is family values.

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Right. The brand is the happy couple on the lawn.

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A scandal like that threatens the core narrative.

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But these things tend to come out, and it was

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documented in unauthorized biographies later

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on, like Genuine Authentic by Michael Gross.

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It reminds us that behind the polished ad campaigns,

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these are real people with real complications.

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Exactly. But let's talk about where he spends

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his time and his money, because his real estate

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portfolio is just as curated as his stores. Oh,

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I have seen photos of the ranch. It looks like

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a John Wayne movie set. The Double RL Ranch in

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Ridgeway, Colorado. 17 ,000 acres. 17 ,000. It

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is a working cattle ranch, but it is also the

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physical embodiment of his Western aesthetic.

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He didn't just buy a house in the mountains.

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He bought the mountains. And then he has a 17

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,000 square foot manor. in Bedford, New York.

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But for me, and I know for a lot of our listeners

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who are into design and engineering, the real

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jaw -dropper is the cars. The car collection.

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This isn't just a rich guy buying Ferraris. This

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is a curated archive of industrial design. We

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are talking about 100 automobiles. And these

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aren't just nice cars. These are museum pieces.

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Quite literally. His collection has been displayed

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at Boston's Museum of Fine Arts and the Musée

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des Arts Décoratifs in Paris. When a museum asks

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to borrow your garage contents, you know you're

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on another level. Let's list a few of the crown

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jewels mentioned in the source, because the names

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alone sound expensive. I want you to describe

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them for us. Okay, buckle up. First, the 1938

00:22:14.059 --> 00:22:18.390
Bugatti Type 57 SC Atlantic. That is the black

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one with the riveted spine running down the middle,

00:22:20.329 --> 00:22:22.349
right? It looks like something Batman would drive

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if Batman lived in 1938 Paris. That is the one.

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It won Best of Show at Pebble Beach in 1990.

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There are only a couple of them in the world.

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It is considered one of the most valuable cars

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in existence. Estimates often float around $40

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million or more. $40 million for one car. It's

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Art Deco Speed. What else? A 1930 Mercedes -Benz

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SSK Count Trasi, also a Pebble Beach winner.

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This car is a beast. It's black, sinister, incredibly

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long hood. It looks like a villain's car in the

00:22:51.910 --> 00:22:55.809
best way possible. Then a 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO,

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the holy grail of Ferraris. And he has modern

00:22:58.690 --> 00:23:02.349
stuff, too. Oh, yes. Three 1996 McLaren F1s.

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And note that he has three. Three of them. The

00:23:04.769 --> 00:23:06.670
McLaren F1 was the fastest car in the world for

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a long time. He has an ultra -rare LM model and

00:23:09.450 --> 00:23:11.990
a Lamborghini Rivington Roadster. And in 2017,

00:23:12.190 --> 00:23:15.269
he actually used the cars as the backdrop for

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a fashion show, right? He did. New York Fashion

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Week. What? He held the show in his garage in

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Bedford. And the context here is wild. The collection

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surrounding the runway was valued at $600 million.

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$600 million just sitting in the garage while

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models walk by. But again, look at it through

00:23:32.980 --> 00:23:35.299
the lens of the brand. These cars represent speed,

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style, beauty, engineering. They are the ultimate

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accessories to the lifestyle he sells. He is

00:23:42.500 --> 00:23:45.079
saying, my clothes belong next to this Bugatti.

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It elevates the clothing by association. Now,

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we have talked about what he has accumulated.

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Let's talk about what he is giving back. Because

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his philanthropy is significant, particularly

00:23:55.410 --> 00:23:58.730
in one specific area. Cancer research. This is

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a major pillar of his legacy, and it started

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with a personal connection. In 1989, he co -founded

00:24:04.029 --> 00:24:06.069
the Nina Hyde Center for Breast Cancer Research

00:24:06.069 --> 00:24:08.670
at Georgetown. Okay. Nina Hyde was a fashion

00:24:08.670 --> 00:24:10.609
correspondent and a close friend of his. When

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she got sick, he didn't just send flowers. He

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started a center. And that led to the Pink Pony

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campaign. Right. Launched in 2000. You've probably

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seen the shirts. The polo player is pink. The

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Pink Pony campaign is about reducing disparities

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in cancer care. It focuses on awareness, prevention,

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and treatment, especially in underserved communities.

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He also did a lot of work right in New York City.

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In Harlem. In 2003, he established the Ralph

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Lauren Center for Cancer Care and Prevention.

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It was a collaboration with Memorial Sloan Kettering

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and North General Hospital. This was about bringing

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world -class care to a neighborhood that was

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historically underserved. And internationally,

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too. Yes. He partnered with the Royal Marsden

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in Europe to fund a breast cancer research facility.

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And the source mentions this was inspired by

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his friendship with Princess Diana. I didn't

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know they were friends. They were. She presented

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him with the Nina Hyde Center's first humanitarian

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award in 1996. So there was a genuine connection

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there. It fits the brand perfectly, royalty and

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philanthropy. Now, earlier you teased the...

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story about the Star Spangled Banner, this is

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one of my favorite facts about him because it

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circles back to that patriotism we talked about.

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It is a great story of patriotism meeting preservation.

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In 1998, Ralph Lauren contributed $10 million

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to the Save America's Treasures campaign. And

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what was that money for? It was specifically

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to preserve the original 1813 flag. The actual

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physical tattered flag that flew over Fort McHenry

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and inspired Francis Scott Key to write the national

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anthem. That is incredible. The literal star

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-spangled banner. It was deteriorating. It was

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falling apart. It needed massive, expensive conservation

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work to save it for future generations. And Ralph

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Lauren stepped up to fit the bill. There is something

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so poetic about that. The son of immigrants who

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changed his name to sound American ends up being

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the one to save the most potent symbol of America.

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It's the ultimate thank you to the country that

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allowed him to invent himself. He's preserving

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the symbol of the dream. He also helped out the

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French, right? He did. In 2013, he committed

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to restoring the École des Beaux -Arts in Paris.

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So he is preserving culture on both sides of

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the Atlantic. He sees himself as a custodian

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of Western civilization's aesthetics. And the

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world has certainly recognized him for all of

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this. The list of awards in the source material

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is exhausting. It is a mile long. Cody Awards

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in the 70s. The CFDA Lifetime Achievement Award

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in 1992. Presented by Audrey Hepburn, no less.

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That is some serious star power. Audrey Hepburn

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is the ultimate seal of approval for elegance.

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He was made an honorary knight commander of the

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Order of the British Empire, a KBE, in 2017.

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Prince Charles presented that to him. So he's

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Sir Ralph. So he is technically an honorary knight.

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Honorary Sir Ralph. Honorary Sir Ralph. I like

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it. And then, as we mentioned at the very top,

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the pinnacle. January 4th, 2025. The Presidential

00:27:03.390 --> 00:27:05.690
Medal of Freedom from President Joe Biden. The

00:27:05.690 --> 00:27:07.829
first fashion designer to ever receive it. It

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really cements his place in history. Not just

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fashion history, but American history. It acknowledges

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that what he built wasn't just a clothing company.

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It was a contribution to the national identity.

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So let's try to synthesize all of this. We have

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gone from the Bronx to Buckingham Palace, from

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a drawer in the Empire State Building to the

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White House. It is an extraordinary journey.

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And it is worth noting that while he is still

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very much the face and soul of the brand, he

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has transitioned his role. He stepped down as

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CEO in 2015, handing the reins to Stefan Larson

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initially, though that was a rocky transition.

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But he remains the executive chairman and chief

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creative officer. He's the guardian. He is still

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the guardian of the dream. So what does this

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all mean? When we look at the legacy of Ralph

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Lauren, what is the big takeaway? You know, it

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brings me back to that idea of self -invention.

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Ralph Lauren didn't just sell clothes. He sold

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a dream of American aristocracy to the world.

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And the irony, or perhaps the beauty, is that

00:28:02.319 --> 00:28:04.920
he started with nothing. He wasn't born into

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the polo playing class. He created the class.

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In a way, yes. In a world where fashion trends

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change weekly, where things are in one day and

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out the next, how did a brand built on 1920s

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nostalgia and English gentry aesthetics manage

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to stay relevant for over 50 years? That is the

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question. Perhaps the most American thing about

00:28:22.960 --> 00:28:25.500
Ralph Lauren isn't the polo shirt or the flag

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sweaters or the denim. It is the self -invention

00:28:28.000 --> 00:28:31.059
of the man himself. He looked in the mirror.

00:28:31.420 --> 00:28:33.779
didn't see Ralph Lipschitz, and decided to become

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someone else. And he did it so convincingly with

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such commitment to detail and quality that the

00:28:40.000 --> 00:28:42.880
whole world believed him. And eventually, the

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world didn't just believe him. They gave him

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a knighthood and the Medal of Freedom for it.

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That is a powerful thought to leave us with.

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The ultimate American invention was Ralph Lauren

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himself. Indeed. Thank you all for joining us

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on this deep dive. We will catch you on the next

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one.
