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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. I want to start

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today by asking you to visualize a specific image.

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It's probably one of the most ingrained images

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in our collective education. You're back in high

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school. The room smells like pencil shavings

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and, I don't know, floor wax. There's a chalkboard

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in front of you covered in white dust, and right

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in the center is a right -angled triangle. And

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next to it, the formula. A squared plus B squared

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equals C squared. Exactly. The Pythagorean theorem.

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And the man behind it, Pythagoras, is etched

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in our minds as the ultimate logo of logic. Yeah,

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he's the guy. The grandfather of geometry. The

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grandfather of geometry. The man of cold, hard,

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rational facts. If you were casting a movie about

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the history of science, he's the serious, beard

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-stroking academic in the first scene. Which

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is why the reality of the historical figure is

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so incredibly jarring to people. Because that

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image, it is barely scratching the surface. In

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fact, it might be actively misleading. That is

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the tension we are going to explore today. Because

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the more you dig into the actual sources, not

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the textbooks, but the ancient accounts, The

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more you realize that Pythagoras wasn't really

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a math teacher. Or at least not just a math teacher.

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Right. He was a mystic. He was a cult leader.

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He was a miracle worker who reportedly spoke

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to rivers and had a thigh made of solid gold.

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It creates this fascinating paradox right at

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the heart of Western civilization. We like to

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think that the Western tradition is built on

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logos, on reason, science, proof. But the man

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who laid the foundation for that tradition was

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steeped in mythos, in ritual, magic, and the

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supernatural. It's like finding out that Isaac

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Newton was actually a high -ranking wizard. Which,

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oddly enough, isn't too far from the truth either,

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but that's a deep dive for another day. A whole

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other can of worms. So today our mission is to

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peel back these layers of legend. We want to

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find the human being underneath the golden thigh.

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To find the historical figure. The man who influenced

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Plato, Copernicus, and basically everyone who

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has ever thought about the structure of the universe.

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And to do that, we have to navigate a labyrinth

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of sources. And this is really the first hurdle

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we have to clear. If you want to study Caesar,

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you read Caesar. If you want to study Marcus

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Aurelius, you read his meditations. Right, you

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go to the primary source. But if you want to

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read Pythagoras, you can't. Because he never

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wrote anything down, is that it? Or if he did,

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not a single scrap of it survived. We have zero

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primary texts, nothing written by his own hand.

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That is wild to consider the most famous name

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in mathematics. And he's a ghost. So everything

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we know is hearsay. Essentially, yes. We are

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relying on secondary and tertiary sources, and

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we have to categorize them very carefully to

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understand what we're looking at. Imagine trying

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to write a biography of a celebrity today, but

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your only sources are a few tweets from their

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enemies and a fan fiction novel written 800 years

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from now. There's a rough mix. So who are the

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tweets from enemies in this scenario? Those would

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be his contemporaries or near contemporaries

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writing in the 6th and 5th centuries B .C. People

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like Heraclitus or Xenophanes. And reviews is

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a polite way to put it. They weren't fans. They

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were often satirical. Heraclius, who was known

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as the weeping philosopher because he was so

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pessimistic, famously called Pythagoras the prince

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of impostors. Ouch. Prince of impostors. That's

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harsh. It is. He accused him of polymathy, which

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today sounds like a compliment. You know, someone

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who knows a lot. Right. A Renaissance man. But

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Heraclitus meant it as an insult. He meant Pisagoras

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collected facts but lacked understanding. He

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was basically saying, sure, this guy knows a

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lot of trivia, but he doesn't have wisdom. So

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the early buzz was pretty negative. What about

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the fan fiction you mentioned, the stuff written

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centuries later? These are the biographies from

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late antiquity writers like Diogenes Laertius,

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Porphyry, and Iamblichus. They were writing around

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the 3rd century AD. So there's an 800 -year gap.

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An enormous gap. That is like me. writing a biography

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of Genghis Khan today, relying mostly on oral

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legends and magic stories. These authors weren't

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trying to be historical in the modern sense.

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They were writing hagiography. Hagiography. So

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the lives of saints. They wanted to portray him

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as a divine figure. Exactly. A sage, a saint,

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someone touched by the gods. So we have to sift

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through the insults of his rivals and the hero

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worship of his fans to find the real guy. Yeah.

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That is where modern scholarship comes in, right?

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Right. Scholars like Walter Burkert have done

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incredible work trying to separate the man from

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the school. They tried to distinguish what Pythagoras

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the person actually said versus what his followers,

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the Pythagoreans, attributed to him over the

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centuries. And as we're about to see. That line

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is very, very blurry. But let's tease some of

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the wildest details we're going to get into.

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We already mentioned the golden thigh. Oh, yeah.

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And the talking river. A river that literally

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greeted him by name. There's also a deadly field

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of fava beans and a bear that he convinced to

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swear an oath of nonviolence. I can't wait to

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get to the bear. But let's start at the beginning.

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Let's drop into the world of, what, around 570

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BC? We are in the Eastern Agency on the island

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of Samos. It's a lush, wealthy island right off

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the coast of modern -day Turkey. And this wasn't

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some sleepy backwater. Samos was a hub. It was

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a powerhouse, a major trading center, which means

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it was a place where ideas collided. You had

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ships coming in from Egypt, from Phoenicia, from

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the Greek mainland. It was an intellectual pressure

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cooker. This is the era of the Ionian Enlightenment,

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right? It is. Thinkers like Anaximander and Anaximenes

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were just a boat ride away in Miletus asking

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these huge questions about what the world is

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made of. Is it water? Is it air? It was a revolutionary

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time for thought. And into this world, Pythagoras

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is... born. We know his father, Misharkas, was

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likely a gem engraver or maybe a merchant. A

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respectable background, but the legends, of course,

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need more than that. They need him to be special

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from day one. This is where the hagiography kicks

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in immediately. Right away. The story goes that

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his parents visited the oracle of Belphie the

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Pythia. The Pythia was the voice of the god Apollo.

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The most important oracle in the ancient world.

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The most important. And she prophesied that his

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mother, Pythias, was already pregnant, which

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apparently was news to them, and that she would

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give birth to a man who would be supremely beautiful,

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wise, and beneficial to humankind. Beneficial

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to humankind. That is a heavy burden for a baby.

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And the name Pythagoras actually links to this

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story, doesn't it? It does. Later followers interpreted

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Pythagoras to mean he who spoke the truth no

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less than the Pythian Apollo. Oh, wow. From the

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Pythia and Agoras from Agorwen to speak. He was

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framed from birth as the mouthpiece of the god

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of light and reason. So he grows up on Samos.

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He's brilliant. He's beautiful. But he doesn't

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stay there. This is where we get into the famous

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gap year period, or really, a gap decade, the

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travels. This is a staple of the Pythagorean

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legend. It's this idea that Greek wisdom wasn't

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enough for him. To truly understand the universe,

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he had to go to the source. So the biographies

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send him on a grand tour of the ancient world.

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Let's break down this itinerary because it is

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exhaustive. First stop. Egypt. Egypt was the

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gold standard for ancient wisdom. If you were

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a Greek intellectual, Egypt was like going to

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Harvard or Oxford. It was the ancient revered

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source of knowledge. Absolutely. The stories

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say he learned the Egyptian language from the

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Pharaoh Amasis II and then spent years, maybe

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decades, studying with the priests at Thebes

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in Memphis. And this wasn't just, you know, a

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study abroad program. The claim is that he was

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initiated into their secret rites. Exactly. He

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supposedly had to undergo circumcision to enter

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the inner sanctuaries. He would have studied

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their geometry, which was highly practical, used

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for measuring land after the Nile flooded every

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year. Right. Redrawing property lines. Precisely.

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And he would have learned their intricate theology

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and their obsession with ritual purity and secrecy.

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The Egyptian priests were notoriously protective

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of their knowledge. This idea of a secret doctrine,

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that's very Egyptian. So he picks up geometry.

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and secrecy in Egypt. Then, according to the

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legends, things go wrong. Right. The Persian

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Empire invades Egypt and Pythagoras is taken

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as a prisoner of war to Babylon. Which, conveniently

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for the legend, is the next stop on his wisdom

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tour. Exactly. This opens up the second major

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chapter of his education. Babylon in the 6th

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century BC was the world's center of astronomy

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and mathematics. The Chaldeans, the Babylonian

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stargazers, had data sets going back centuries.

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We aren't just talking about looking at the moon.

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We are talking about serious data science for

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the ancient world. It's high -level pattern recognition.

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They could predict eclipses. They understood

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the cycles of the planets with incredible precision.

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If Pythagoras was there, he would have been exposed

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to a level of mathematical sophistication that

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simply didn't exist in Greece yet. And what else

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I read he also studied with the Magi. The Magi,

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yes. The Zoroastrian priests. This is where the

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philosophy gets really interesting. Zoroastrianism

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is all about the cosmic battle between good and

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evil, light and dark. Dualism. Exactly. That

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concept of a binary universe order versus chaos,

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limit versus unlimited, odd versus even, that

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becomes a core part of Pythagorean thought. He

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may have picked that up in Babylon. And the list

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just goes on. Some sources say he went to Phoenicia

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for arithmetic. maybe even to India to meet the

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gymnosophists, the naked philosophers. Even the

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Celts and Iberians are mentioned. He basically

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went everywhere. But we have to pause here and

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apply our critical lens. Did he actually go to

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all these places? Modern scholarship is pretty

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skeptical, right? Very skeptical. It sounds a

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bit too perfect. Like a greatest hits album of

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ancient wisdom. It's an appeal to authority,

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isn't it? That's the perfect way to put it. in

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the hellenistic period when these biographies

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were written it was very fashionable to claim

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that great greek ideas actually came from the

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older wiser civilizations of the east you wanted

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an exotic origin story you did if you wanted

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to legitimize pythagoras you didn't say he thought

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this up while walking on the beach in samos you

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said The high priest of Memphis taught him this

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in a secret chamber under a pyramid. Like Herodotus

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claiming Pythagoras got the idea of reincarnation

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from Egypt. Right, which Herodotus got completely

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wrong. The Egyptians had complex views on the

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afterlife, but they didn't believe in the transmigration

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of souls reincarnation in the specific way Pythagoras

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taught it. That's more likely an idea with roots

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in Thracian or even Indian thought. So while

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he almost certainly traveled, I mean, Samos was

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a trading hub, he would have been around foreigners.

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Oh, for sure. He probably went to Egypt in the

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Near East. But the idea that he collected wisdom

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like stamps and a passport is likely a later

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invention to bolster his resume. Okay, so whether

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it's real or exaggerated, he eventually comes

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back to Samos, a changed man. But he doesn't

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stay. Why leave home again? Politics. Samos had

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fallen under the control of a tyrant named Polycrates.

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Now, Polycrates was a successful ruler. He built

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a powerful navy, great temples, but he was a

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tyrant. And Pythagoras wasn't a fan of tyrants.

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According to the stories, he found the lack of

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freedom stifling. He couldn't teach or live the

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way he wanted to. There's also the suggestion

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that he was just too popular, the burden of celebrity.

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Yes, exactly. He was constantly being dragged

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into public duties, forced to advise on politics,

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and he had no time for his real work, for his

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philosophy. I love the detail about the cave.

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Yes. Before he left, he supposedly tried to set

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up a school in a public place called the Semicircle,

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but he found it distracting. He preferred to

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retreat to a secret cave outside the city to

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do his real thinking and teach his inner circle.

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The Batcave of Philosophy? So around 530 BC,

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at the age of 40, he packs his bags and presumably

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his geometry notes and heads west. To Italy.

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Specifically to Croton. This was part of Magna

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Graecia, Great Greece. Southern Italy was heavily

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colonized by Greeks. It was a new world, a place

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of opportunity, kind of like the American frontier.

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This is where the school is born. But we need

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to be really careful with that word school. When

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I hear school, I think of enrollment forms, tuition,

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and lectures. But that's not what this was. Not

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at all. It was much closer to a monastery or

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honestly a cult -like commune. When Pythagoras

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arrived in Croton, his charisma was apparently

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off the charts. He made a huge first impression.

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A massive one. He gave these incredible speeches

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to the city elders, to the young men, to the

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women and children. He convinced the people of

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Croton, who were known for being a bit decadent,

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to turn away from luxury and corruption and embrace

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a purer, more disciplined way of life. And for

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those who wanted to go all in to become Pythagoreans,

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the lifestyle was extreme. It wasn't just attending

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a seminar. It was a total life overhaul. It was

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a brotherhood, a society. The core maxim was

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all things in common among friends. So they practiced

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a form of communism. Strict communism. When you

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joined, you handed over all your property, all

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your money to the community. You lived together,

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ate together, and worshipped together. You were

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bound by vows to Pythagoras and to each other.

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And the entry requirements were brutal. Let's

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talk about the silence. The five -year silence.

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I want to just... Pause on that for a second.

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Can you imagine the psychology of that? You join

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this group. You're surrounded by people. You're

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supposedly learning these mind -blowing truths

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about the universe. But for five years, you cannot

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utter a single word. It is a profound psychological

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tool. It breaks down the ego. You can't justify

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yourself. You can't argue. You can't try to sound

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smart. You can't complain. You just have to listen.

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You become a vessel. You are forced to listen,

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to observe, to absorb. It turns you into a pure

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receptacle for the master's voice. Only after

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five years of silent listening were you deemed

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worthy to actually see Pythagoras face to face.

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It's basically active listening taken to a torture

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level. And this hierarchy created a split in

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the group, didn't it? The listeners versus the

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learners? It did. This is the famous split between

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the akusmatikoi and the mathematikoi. Okay, break

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those down for us. The akusmatikoi, the listeners,

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were the outer circle. They were the ones who

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focused on the rules, the maxims, the akusmata,

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or things heard. So they followed the dogma.

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Yes. They didn't ask why, they just obeyed. Don't

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poke fire in the sword. Okay, put your right

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sandal on first. Got it. They were the religious

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hardliners, the keepers of the tradition. And

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the mathematikoi? The learners. Mathema in Greek

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just means that which is learned. This was the

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inner circle. They were the ones interested in

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the geometry, the astronomy, the music theory.

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They wanted to know the why behind the rules.

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So they were the scientific wing. You could say

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that. They wanted the rational proofs and the

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philosophical understanding. The akousmatikoi

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cared about the ritual. The mathematicoi cared

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about the reason. It's fascinating because this

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split foreshadows the entire future of Pythagoras'

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legacy. You have the religious mystics and the

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scientific rationalists all under one roof, claiming

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to follow the same man. And scholars debate whether

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this split existed during Pythagoras' lifetime

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or developed later, but the tension was clearly

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there from the beginning. Eventually, the two

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factions would turn on each other, each claiming

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to be the true heirs. But in the beginning, it

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was a unified community. And we have to mention

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one other really radical aspect of this community,

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the women. Yes. This is one of the most surprising

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and, frankly, progressive things about the school

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for its time period. Ancient Greece wasn't exactly

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known for gender equality. Not at all. Women

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were generally confined to the domestic sphere,

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with very few rights. Exactly. But in the Pythagorean

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community, women were not only allowed, they

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were active members. We have records of female

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philosophers, scholars in their own right. Theano

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is the big name, right? Theano is the most famous.

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Depending on the source you read, she was either

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Pythagoras' wife or his most gifted student,

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or both. She was a respected mathematician and

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philosopher. But she wasn't the only one. I read

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that Iamblichus, one of the biographers, lists

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17 famous female Pythagoreans by name. He does.

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Names like Maya and Eregnote. They wrote books.

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They taught. They were intellectuals. It seems

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Pythagoras believed that since the soul was the

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only thing that mattered and the soul was genderless,

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women were just as capable of achieving wisdom

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as men. It was a radical idea. So we have this

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commune, men and women. living in silence, sharing

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property, but what were they actually believing?

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What was the central theology? The bedrock of

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the belief system, the one thing scholars are

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about 99 % sure the historical Pythagoras actually

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taught, is metempsychosis. Which is a fancy Greek

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word for reincarnation. Transmigration of the

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soul. It's the idea that the soul is immortal.

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It is a divine spark that is trapped or imprisoned

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in a mortal body. When the body dies, the soul

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doesn't disappear. It moves on. It gets shuffled

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into a new body. And not necessarily a human

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body, which is key. That's the key part. You

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could come back as another human, or you could

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come back as a dog, or a lion, or a fish, or

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even a bean plant, as we'll see. This leads directly

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to the famous anecdote with the puppy. Right,

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the one from the satirist Xenophanes. He tells

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this story to make fun of Pythagoras. What's

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the story? He says Pythagoras was walking down

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the street and saw a man beating a puppy. Pythagoras

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runs over and screams, Stop! Do not beat it!

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For it is the soul of a friend that I recognized

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when I heard its voice. Don't hit that dog. That's

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my old buddy Steve. It sounds like a punchline.

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Xenophanes definitely meant it as a joke. He

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was mocking him. But like all good satire, it

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points to a genuine belief. Pythagoras really

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did believe that all living things were kindred.

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There was a universal brotherhood of souls connecting

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humans and animals. claimed to have proof of

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this because he could remember his own past lives.

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This wasn't just a theory for him. He had the

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receipts, so to speak. He had the memories. This

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was his ultimate trump card. He claimed that

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in a past life, he was a hero named Ethelades,

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who was the son of the god Hermes. Okay. Hermes

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offered Ethelades any gift except immortality,

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so he asked for the one thing that could approximate

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it, to retain his memory, his consciousness.

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Through the cycle of death and rebirth. That

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is a very clever choice. A brilliant choice.

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So he remembered being Athelides. Then he came

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back as Euphorbus, a hero who fought and died

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in the Trojan War. Embea. Then he was Hermonimus,

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a philosopher. Then Pyrrhus, a simple fisherman

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from Delos. He even claimed to have been a beautiful

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courtesan at one point. He had this whole CV

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of past selves. I love the story about how he

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proved he was Euphorbus with the shield. Ah,

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yes. This was his great magic trick to prove

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his identity. He was traveling and went into

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the Temple of Hera near Mycenae. There were old

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shields hanging on the wall as votive offerings

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from past wars. He walked through, looked them

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over, and then pointed to a rotting rusty one

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and said, That one. That is the shield I carried

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when I was Euphorbus, before Menelaus killed

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me at Troy. That's quite a claim. The priests

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were skeptical, of course, but they took it down,

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scraped off the centuries of rust and decay,

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and supposedly, on the inside, they found the

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name Euphortus inscribed. That is some David

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Blaine -level street magic. Yeah. But it solidified

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his authority. If he can remember what happened

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500 years ago, you're going to listen to what

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he has to say about everything else. Absolutely.

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And this belief in the soul's journey dictated

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their entire way of life. the goal of being a

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pythagorean was purification or catharsis but

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purify the soul to purify the soul so it could

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escape the grievous wheel of rebirth and finally

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return to the divine realm where it belongs and

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this purification was achieved through study

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through music and through a very very specific

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set of rules and this brings us to the symbol

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of the rules or the akusmata the things heard

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if you want to purify your soul apparently you

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have to follow some incredibly specific and frankly

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bizarre instructions this is where the cult vibe

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really takes over these weren't just ethical

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guidelines like don't steal these were ritual

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taboos things you must or must not do for example

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do not poke fire with a sword Okay, let's analyze

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that. Is that practical advice? Like, don't ruin

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your nice sword by sticking it in the fire. Well,

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that's one interpretation, but Aristotle, who

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studied the Pythagoreans, seemed to think these

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were literal ritual taboos. Like, the fire has

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a spirit, the sword has a spirit, and you don't

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want to bring them into violent conflict. It's

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a form of defilement. But later philosophers

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tried to pretty them up, right? Yes. The Neoplatonists,

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like Porphyry, came along centuries later and

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were a bit embarrassed by all the superstitions.

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So they reinterpreted them as philosophical metaphors.

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So what did don't poke fire with a sword mean

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to them? For Porphyry, it meant do not provoke

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an angry person with sharp words. You know, don't

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poke a fiery temper with the sword of your tongue.

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That sounds an awful lot like a retcon. Like

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they were trying to make it sound deep after

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the fact. What are some of the other rules? Oh,

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there are so many. Do not pick up what has fallen

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from the table. Do not break bread. When you

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get out of bed, smooth out the impression of

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your body in the sheets. Why that one? The idea

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was to not leave a trace of yourself behind for

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spirits or bad magic to latch onto. Another one

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is do not wear images of the gods on rings. So

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no religious jewelry. Right, because it was seen

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as trapping the divine in a material prison.

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And my personal favorite, put the right sandal

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on before the left. The sandal one is fascinating.

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It implies a constant state of mindfulness. You

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can't just groggily get dressed in the morning.

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You have to be aware, OK, it's the right foot

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first. It turns every tiny action into a ritual.

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It creates a distinction between the sacred and

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the profane in every moment. The right side was

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associated with the good, the odd numbers, the

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masculine, the light. The left was the bad, the

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even, the dark. So you must always begin with

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the good. But the most famous rule. The one that

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has dogged his legacy for two and a half thousand

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years is the diet. There's a lot of debate about

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meat, but everyone agrees on one thing. The beans.

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The absolute prohibition of fava beans. We have

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to dig into this. Why beans? Of all the things

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in the ancient world to forbid, why is the fava

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bean the ultimate enemy? There are two main theories

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here, and they offer a great window into the

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two sides of Pythagoras, the mystic and the scientist.

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The first theory is purely mystical and has a

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few parts. Okay, let's hear the mystic side.

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One idea was that fava beans look like human

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genitalia, so they were connected to sex and

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generation, which were things the soul needed

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to transcend. Another was that they caused gas,

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which disturbed the tranquil state of the soul.

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But the most powerful belief was about their

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connection to the dead. Fava bean plants have

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a hollow stem. It was believed that this stem

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was a ladder connecting directly to Hades, the

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underworld. So there were conduits for souls.

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There were conduits for souls. There was a folk

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belief that if you chewed a fava bean and left

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it in the sun for a certain number of days, it

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would start to smell like human blood or flesh.

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And there was the saying, eating beans is like

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eating the heads of one's parents. Exactly. Because

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if souls transmigrate and a bean can house a

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soul. That bean salad you're eating might literally

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contain the soul of your grandmother. So to eat

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a bean is a form of cannibalism. That is the

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mythos explanation. It's why. But I was reading

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about the medical theory and this actually blew

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my mind. It connects to a condition called favism.

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Yes. This is the scientific or proto -scientific

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explanation, and it's very compelling. Favism

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is a genetic condition, specifically a G6PD enzyme

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deficiency. And it's common in the Mediterranean.

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Very common, especially in areas where malaria

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was once endemic because the gene seems to offer

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some protection against malaria. Okay, so if

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you have this genetic deficiency and you eat

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fava beans or even just inhale the pollen from

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the flowers, what happens? It triggers a severe

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reaction. your red blood cells rupture. It's

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called acute hemolytic anemia. It can cause severe

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jaundice, kidney failure, and especially in children,

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it can be fatal. So if Pythagoras is running

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a commune in southern Italy and he just flat

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out bans fava beans, he is effectively stopping

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a percentage of his followers from triggering

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a deadly genetic reaction. Precisely. It looks

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like a bizarre superstition. The beans are ghosts.

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But it functions like a very effective public

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health directive. It's possible he observed the

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correlation. He saw people eating beans and getting

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sick or dying and not knowing about genetics.

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He created a powerful religious taboo to protect

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them. It's a survival mechanism wrapped in dogma.

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It's a fascinating possibility. There is a story

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about him talking to a bull about beans, right?

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Yes, another one of his animal encounters. He

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saw an ox grazing in a field that contained fava

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beans. He supposedly went up to the bull and

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whispered in its ear for a long time, persuading

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it to abstain. And did it work? The story goes

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the bull never touched a bean again and lived

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to a ripe old age as a sacred animal at the Temple

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of Hera. The Dr. Doolittle of Antiquity. Okay,

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so we have the mystic rules, but we can't ignore

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the reason most people know his name, the math,

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the mathematical side of the school. All is number.

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That was the motto, the fundamental principle

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of reality. But we need to clarify something

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huge here right at the top. The Pythagorean theorem,

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T dollars plus B2 equals C22. Did he discover

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it? Almost certainly not. I feel like I need

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to write a letter of complaint to my eighth grade

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geometry teacher. You and everyone else. The

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Babylonians had this knowledge a thousand years

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before Pythagoras was born. The Indians had it

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in their Sulba Sutras. We have Babylonian clay

00:25:33.710 --> 00:25:36.309
tablets that list Pythagorean triple sets of

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numbers that fit the equation, like three, four,

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five, with perfect accuracy. So if he didn't

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discover it, why on earth is his name on it?

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That is the million -dollar question. The best

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guess is about the difference in approach. The

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Babylonians were practical. They wanted the answers

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so they could build a wall or measure a field.

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They were engineers. They didn't care why it

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worked, just that it did. But the Greeks were

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different. The Greeks, and specifically the Pythagoreans,

00:26:01.269 --> 00:26:03.549
were obsessed with the proof. They wanted the

00:26:03.549 --> 00:26:06.029
abstract, logical demonstration that it must

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be true in all cases, for all right -angled triangles,

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everywhere in the universe, forever. They took

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it from a tool to a universal philosophy. Exactly.

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And Pythagoras was the figurehead of the school

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that championed this new way of thinking. In

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his brotherhood, all discoveries were attributed

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to the master. Ipsidix it. He himself said it.

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So even if a student 50 years later worked out

00:26:28.160 --> 00:26:31.380
the formal proof, it was credited back to Pythagoras.

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That's the theory. He gets the brand name because

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he inspired the movement. But for them, math

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wasn't just homework. It was worship. It was

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the language of God. We have to talk about the

00:26:41.680 --> 00:26:44.940
detractors. Ah, the sacred symbol, the key to

00:26:44.940 --> 00:26:47.500
the universe. Okay, visualize this for me. You

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said it's a triangle of dots. But why is a little

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triangle of 10 dots so important? Because it's

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not just a shape. It's a process. It's a map

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of creation. Imagine a triangle made of 10 dots.

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The top row is a single dot. That's the monad,

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unity, the origin of everything. Right, a single

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point. It has no dimension. The second row has

00:27:07.519 --> 00:27:09.900
two dots. Connect those two points and you get

00:27:09.900 --> 00:27:12.160
a line. Now you have one dimension. The third

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row has three dots. Three points, if they're

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not in a line, define a plane, a flat surface,

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like a triangle. Two dimensions. Length and width.

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And the bottom row has four dots. Four points

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define a tetrahedron, a pyramid, a solid object.

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Three dimensions. So in one simple symbol, you

00:27:29.009 --> 00:27:31.650
go from a single abstract concept, the number

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one, to physical 3D reality. Exactly. And when

00:27:35.769 --> 00:27:38.150
you add up the dots, one plus two plus three

00:27:38.150 --> 00:27:43.089
plus four, you get ten. The decade. For the Pythagoreans,

00:27:43.130 --> 00:27:45.289
ten was the perfect number, the basis of the

00:27:45.289 --> 00:27:47.990
cosmos. They swore their most sacred oaths by

00:27:47.990 --> 00:27:50.329
the Tetractys. And this idea that numbers are

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the literal building blocks of reality leads

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to their most poetic and famous theory. The music

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of the spheres. Musica universalis. This is the

00:27:58.900 --> 00:28:01.039
idea that the planets make a sound as they move,

00:28:01.119 --> 00:28:04.220
right? It's the grand unification of math, music,

00:28:04.339 --> 00:28:07.380
and astronomy. Pythagoras, or the Pythagoreans,

00:28:07.460 --> 00:28:09.740
made the revolutionary discovery that musical

00:28:09.740 --> 00:28:12.400
pitch is determined by mathematical ratios. This

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is the famous blacksmith story. That's legend.

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It says he walked by a blacksmith shop, heard

00:28:16.599 --> 00:28:18.380
hammers of different weights striking an anvil,

00:28:18.460 --> 00:28:20.039
and realized the different notes they produced

00:28:20.039 --> 00:28:22.119
were related to the simple whole number ratios

00:28:22.119 --> 00:28:24.019
of their weights. No, I read that the physics

00:28:24.019 --> 00:28:26.150
of the hammer story is actually wrong. It is.

00:28:26.150 --> 00:28:27.970
The physics of hammer weights doesn't work that

00:28:27.970 --> 00:28:31.009
way. It works with string length or pipe length.

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But the core concept is one of the most important

00:28:34.670 --> 00:28:37.589
discoveries in Western science. Okay, so explain

00:28:37.589 --> 00:28:39.670
it with a guitar string. Think of a guitar string.

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You pluck it, it makes a note. That's your fundamental.

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Now press your finger down exactly in the middle

00:28:45.190 --> 00:28:47.289
of that string. You have halved its length. The

00:28:47.289 --> 00:28:50.089
ratio is 2 to 1. Pluck it again. It's the same

00:28:50.089 --> 00:28:53.940
note, just higher. An octave. Precisely. If you

00:28:53.940 --> 00:28:56.700
take two thirds of the string's length, the ratio

00:28:56.700 --> 00:28:59.019
is three to two. That gives you a perfect fifth.

00:28:59.259 --> 00:29:01.200
If you take three fourths, you get a perfect

00:29:01.200 --> 00:29:04.240
fourth. He realized that harmony... The sound

00:29:04.240 --> 00:29:07.220
that we perceive as beautiful and consonant is

00:29:07.220 --> 00:29:09.160
actually just simple whole number of mathematics

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:12.240
in action. He quantified beauty. He turned aesthetics

00:29:12.240 --> 00:29:14.759
into an equation. Yes. And then he made the great

00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:17.299
leap of faith. He extrapolated that to the sky.

00:29:17.539 --> 00:29:20.819
He reasoned that the planets and stars are massive

00:29:20.819 --> 00:29:23.819
objects moving in perfect circular orbits. So

00:29:23.819 --> 00:29:25.759
they must produce a sound. They must produce

00:29:25.759 --> 00:29:29.200
a sound. A hum. And because their orbits and

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:30.980
speeds are governed by the same mathematical

00:29:30.980 --> 00:29:34.140
laws, their combined sounds must be harmonious.

00:29:34.299 --> 00:29:37.140
The entire universe is playing a symphony. But

00:29:37.140 --> 00:29:39.259
we can't hear it. Porphyry's explanation was

00:29:39.259 --> 00:29:40.859
that we can't hear it because it's always there.

00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:43.900
We are born into this cosmic music, so we tune

00:29:43.900 --> 00:29:45.819
it out. It's like living next to a waterfall.

00:29:45.940 --> 00:29:48.279
After a while, you don't notice the roar. Only

00:29:48.279 --> 00:29:50.880
Pythagoras, with his purified soul, was able

00:29:50.880 --> 00:29:53.599
to hear it. That is an incredibly beautiful idea.

00:29:54.380 --> 00:29:57.319
But... There's a dark side to this obsession

00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.000
with perfect whole numbers. We have to talk about

00:30:00.000 --> 00:30:02.400
the scandal, the crisis of the irrational. The

00:30:02.400 --> 00:30:04.759
skeleton in the Pythagorean closet. Because their

00:30:04.759 --> 00:30:07.039
whole worldview, their entire religion, was based

00:30:07.039 --> 00:30:09.140
on the idea that everything in the universe can

00:30:09.140 --> 00:30:12.339
be expressed as a ratio of whole numbers, integers.

00:30:13.049 --> 00:30:15.349
Clean, beautiful fractions. Everything was rational.

00:30:15.549 --> 00:30:17.549
And then they applied their own theorem, the

00:30:17.549 --> 00:30:19.490
one that bears their name, to the simplest possible

00:30:19.490 --> 00:30:22.329
shape. A square. A square, where each side is

00:30:22.329 --> 00:30:25.529
one unit long. Draw a diagonal line across the

00:30:25.529 --> 00:30:27.890
middle, from corner to corner. How long is that

00:30:27.890 --> 00:30:32.269
diagonal? Well, $8 plus B2 equals C22. So $12

00:30:32.269 --> 00:30:35.309
plus 12 plus 12 plus C22. 1 plus 1 is 2. So the

00:30:35.309 --> 00:30:37.450
diagonal is the square root of 2. And what is

00:30:37.450 --> 00:30:41.410
the square root of 2? It's 1 .41421356. Hmm.

00:30:41.960 --> 00:30:44.140
It just goes on forever. It never ends and it

00:30:44.140 --> 00:30:46.779
never repeats. It is irrational. It cannot be

00:30:46.779 --> 00:30:49.380
written as a fraction of two whole numbers. It

00:30:49.380 --> 00:30:51.759
defies the rule that all is number, at least

00:30:51.759 --> 00:30:53.839
as they understood it. And this terrified them.

00:30:53.920 --> 00:30:56.039
It was a cosmic flaw. It broke their universe.

00:30:56.099 --> 00:30:58.400
It meant that there was something messy, infinite,

00:30:58.539 --> 00:31:01.180
and unknowable right at the heart of their perfect

00:31:01.180 --> 00:31:04.559
rational geometry. And legend says they didn't

00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:06.519
take this discovery well. The legend is very

00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:09.539
dark. It says that a Pythagorean named Hippasus

00:31:09.539 --> 00:31:11.519
was the one who revealed this terrible secret,

00:31:11.720 --> 00:31:14.339
or perhaps discovered it himself. And the others

00:31:14.339 --> 00:31:16.640
were so horrified, so threatened by this truth,

00:31:16.759 --> 00:31:18.539
that they took him out on a boat and drowned

00:31:18.539 --> 00:31:21.059
him at sea. Talk about a harsh peer review process.

00:31:21.539 --> 00:31:24.079
Your math implies chaos, so we're going to murder

00:31:24.079 --> 00:31:26.500
you. It shows that, at the end of the day, this

00:31:26.500 --> 00:31:29.640
was a religion first and a science second. When

00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:32.400
the facts contradicted the dogma, they chose

00:31:32.400 --> 00:31:34.940
the dogma. And they enforced it with violence.

00:31:35.160 --> 00:31:37.240
So we've seen the math, the cult, the rules.

00:31:37.460 --> 00:31:39.400
But they weren't just staying in their commune.

00:31:39.400 --> 00:31:41.319
They got deeply involved in politics, didn't

00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:44.000
they? Oh, yes. They effectively took over the

00:31:44.000 --> 00:31:47.019
city of Croton. They became a political aristocracy.

00:31:47.259 --> 00:31:49.980
Why? What was their political philosophy? They

00:31:49.980 --> 00:31:52.819
believed that just as the universe is a cosmos

00:31:52.819 --> 00:31:56.099
and ordered hierarchical system, so society should

00:31:56.099 --> 00:31:59.700
be. The best should rule. And the best, in their

00:31:59.700 --> 00:32:03.099
view, were, of course, them, the purified, enlightened

00:32:03.099 --> 00:32:05.660
philosophers. They were successful for a while,

00:32:05.700 --> 00:32:08.579
too. They led Croton to a major military victory

00:32:08.579 --> 00:32:10.440
against the neighboring city of Sabaris. They

00:32:10.440 --> 00:32:13.039
did. Sybaris was famous for being the opposite

00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:16.059
of Pythagorean Croton. It was known for its extreme

00:32:16.059 --> 00:32:18.460
luxury and decadence. That's where we get our

00:32:18.460 --> 00:32:21.099
word Sybarite. A city of pleasure seekers. Exactly.

00:32:21.519 --> 00:32:25.819
And in 510 BC, the disciplined ascetic Pythagoreans

00:32:25.819 --> 00:32:28.480
led the army of Croton and crushed the luxurious

00:32:28.480 --> 00:32:30.819
Sybarites in battle. They then did something

00:32:30.819 --> 00:32:33.359
incredibly brutal. They wiped it off the map.

00:32:33.539 --> 00:32:35.980
Literally. They diverted the course of a nearby

00:32:35.980 --> 00:32:38.900
river to flow over the ruins, burying the city

00:32:38.900 --> 00:32:41.680
of Sybaris in mud and silt. That's a powerful

00:32:41.680 --> 00:32:44.240
statement. But this victory was actually the

00:32:44.240 --> 00:32:46.259
beginning of their undoing, wasn't it? It was.

00:32:46.559 --> 00:32:48.900
People tolerate eccentrics. They don't tolerate

00:32:48.900 --> 00:32:51.759
tyrants. After the war, the general populace

00:32:51.759 --> 00:32:54.220
of Croton wanted a more democratic constitution,

00:32:54.559 --> 00:32:57.119
a greater share of the power and the new land.

00:32:57.359 --> 00:33:00.019
And the Pythagoreans said no. They rejected it.

00:33:00.319 --> 00:33:02.579
They wanted to maintain their aristocratic control.

00:33:02.880 --> 00:33:05.640
This created huge resentment, and that resentment

00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:08.680
found a leader, a man named Ceylon. And Ceylon

00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:10.940
had a personal grudge against Pythagoras, right?

00:33:11.000 --> 00:33:13.740
Ah, very personal grudge. Ceylon was a wealthy,

00:33:13.880 --> 00:33:16.359
powerful noble. He had tried to join the Pythagorean

00:33:16.359 --> 00:33:19.180
school earlier in his life, but Pythagoras had

00:33:19.180 --> 00:33:22.039
rejected him. He failed the vibe check. Pythagoras

00:33:22.039 --> 00:33:24.859
reportedly used his quasi -divine insight to

00:33:24.859 --> 00:33:28.119
see that Ceylon was violent, arrogant, and tyrannical

00:33:28.119 --> 00:33:31.019
in character. So he said, you can't sit with

00:33:31.019 --> 00:33:34.180
us. Cylon never forgave him. So when the political

00:33:34.180 --> 00:33:36.880
tide turned against the Pythagoreans, Cylon was

00:33:36.880 --> 00:33:39.980
there to lead the mob. He was. He and another

00:33:39.980 --> 00:33:43.359
politician named Ninon stoked the popular anger

00:33:43.359 --> 00:33:46.099
and it erupted into violence. And this leads

00:33:46.099 --> 00:33:48.380
to the dramatic finale. Yeah. The attack on the

00:33:48.380 --> 00:33:51.069
school. Yes. The Pythagoreans were gathered in

00:33:51.069 --> 00:33:53.170
a meeting house. Some sources say it was the

00:33:53.170 --> 00:33:56.269
house of Milo the Wrestler, the famous Olympian

00:33:56.269 --> 00:33:59.190
who was one of Pythagoras' followers. The mob,

00:33:59.289 --> 00:34:01.990
led by Cylon, surrounded the house and set it

00:34:01.990 --> 00:34:05.069
on fire. And the story of Pythagoras' death is

00:34:05.069 --> 00:34:07.230
a bit of a... choose -your -own -adventure tale.

00:34:07.410 --> 00:34:10.130
There are multiple versions. There are. In some

00:34:10.130 --> 00:34:12.409
versions, he isn't even there. He's away on the

00:34:12.409 --> 00:34:14.829
island of Delos, tending to his dying teacher,

00:34:15.030 --> 00:34:18.150
Phariseides. But the more dramatic versions put

00:34:18.150 --> 00:34:20.050
him right in the middle of the fire. There's

00:34:20.050 --> 00:34:22.190
the human bridge version. Yes, it's an incredible

00:34:22.190 --> 00:34:24.630
image of loyalty. His students realize their

00:34:24.630 --> 00:34:26.829
master is trapped by the flames, so they lie

00:34:26.829 --> 00:34:29.329
down in the fire side by side, forming a bridge

00:34:29.329 --> 00:34:31.469
with their own bodies so that Pythagoras can

00:34:31.469 --> 00:34:33.789
walk over them to safety. That is horrifying

00:34:33.789 --> 00:34:36.449
devotion. So in that version, he escapes. He

00:34:36.449 --> 00:34:39.989
escapes. But in one telling, he is so heartbroken

00:34:39.989 --> 00:34:42.849
by the sacrifice of his students that he loses

00:34:42.849 --> 00:34:45.849
the will to live. He takes refuge in a temple

00:34:45.849 --> 00:34:48.289
and starves himself to death. But then there

00:34:48.289 --> 00:34:50.530
is the bean field version. Yeah. The one that

00:34:50.530 --> 00:34:52.989
feels like a cosmic joke. This is the most famous

00:34:52.989 --> 00:34:56.210
legend, the one told by Diogenes Laertius and

00:34:56.210 --> 00:34:58.730
others. It's the most ironic and in a way the

00:34:58.730 --> 00:35:01.829
most Pythagorean. Set the scene for us. He escapes

00:35:01.829 --> 00:35:15.420
the burning house. Not a river. Not a cliff.

00:35:15.900 --> 00:35:18.440
A field of fava beans. A field of fava beans

00:35:18.440 --> 00:35:21.500
in full bloom. He stops dead in his tracks, he

00:35:21.500 --> 00:35:23.260
looks at the beans, then looks back at the men

00:35:23.260 --> 00:35:25.599
coming to kill him, and he makes a choice. He

00:35:25.599 --> 00:35:28.360
refuses to cross the field. He refuses. He declares

00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.360
something like, better to be captured than to

00:35:30.360 --> 00:35:32.300
trample these beans, better to be slaughtered

00:35:32.300 --> 00:35:34.960
than to speak of our histories. He refuses to

00:35:34.960 --> 00:35:37.260
violate his own sacred law, even to save his

00:35:37.260 --> 00:35:39.599
own life. The mob catches up to him and cuts

00:35:39.599 --> 00:35:41.460
his throat right there at the edge of the field.

00:35:41.679 --> 00:35:44.500
He died for the beans. It's the ultimate irony.

00:35:45.070 --> 00:35:47.269
But it's also perfectly consistent, isn't it?

00:35:47.309 --> 00:35:49.829
He lived by the code. He died by the code. It

00:35:49.829 --> 00:35:51.949
cements him as a martyr for his own philosophy.

00:35:52.230 --> 00:35:55.409
So the man dies. The school in Croton is burned

00:35:55.409 --> 00:35:58.889
and destroyed. But the legacy, it's just getting

00:35:58.889 --> 00:36:01.869
started. It goes nuclear. The survivors of the

00:36:01.869 --> 00:36:04.489
massacre scatter across the Greek world, spreading

00:36:04.489 --> 00:36:07.289
the teachings. And eventually those ideas reach

00:36:07.289 --> 00:36:10.269
a young, brilliant aristocrat in Athens, a guy

00:36:10.269 --> 00:36:12.980
named Plato. And Plato is the conduit. He's the

00:36:12.980 --> 00:36:15.219
one who takes these ideas and bakes them into

00:36:15.219 --> 00:36:17.599
the foundation of all Western philosophy. Plato

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is basically a Pythagorean fanboy. His dialogues,

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especially the Timaeus, which is his creation

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myth, are drenched in Pythagoreanism. What are

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some of the specific ideas he took? The idea

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that the soul has three parts, reason, spirit,

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and appetite, that's Pythagorean. The idea that

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the physical world we see is just a shadow, an

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illusion, and the real world is the world of

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eternal forms, or for Pythagoras, numbers. That's

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Pythagorean. Cicero, the Roman order said. They

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say Plato learned all things Pythagorean. And

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through Plato, these ideas flow into everything

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that comes after. They influence Aristotle, the

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Stoics, and then they get picked up by early

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Christian theologians. The idea of the body as

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a prison for the immortal soul, that has a huge

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influence on Gnosticism and Christian asceticism.

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And then let's fast forward through the Middle

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Ages. The Renaissance and the scientific revolution

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arrive, and suddenly Pythagoras is everywhere

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again. He becomes a hero for the new scientists.

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We see it in architecture like the Pantheon in

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Rome, which was designed with Pythagorean numerology.

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But the big names are Copernicus and Kepler.

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Right. How did Copernicus use him? This is a

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great example of branding. When Copernicus proposed

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the heliocentric model that the earth goes around

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the sun, he knew he was in for a fight with the

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church. He needed an ancient, respected precedent

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to protect himself. So he name -dropped Pythagoras.

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He cited the Pythagoreans explicitly in his book.

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He pointed to Philoas, a later Pythagorean, who

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had proposed that the Earth moved around a central

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fire. Copernicus essentially used the Pythagorean

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mystique to sell the biggest scientific shift

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in history. He claimed he wasn't inventing something

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new and heretical. He was just restoring the

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lost wisdom of the great Italian school. And

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Johannes Kepler. Kepler was a true believer.

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He wasn't just doing astronomy. He was consciously

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trying to prove the music of the spheres. His

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masterwork is called Harmonices, Mundi, the Harmonics

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of the World. And he actually worked out the

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notes. He literally wrote down the musical notation

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for each planet based on its orbital speed. He

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thought Saturn hummed a low, deep note because

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it moved slowly, and Mercury and Venus sang a

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high soprano. The whole project was a search

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for God's divine geometry. It was a Pythagorean

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quest. And even today, I mean, you look at modern

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physics, string theory. It's purely Pythagorean.

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The idea that the fundamental particles of the

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universe aren't particles at all, but tiny vibrating

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strings, and their frequency, their note, determines

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whether they appear as an electron or a quark.

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That is the blacksmith story with a PhD. And

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what about the simulation hypothesis? The popular

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idea that the universe we live in is actually

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just code running on a giant computer. That is

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the ultimate expression of all is number. If

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you could look beneath the matrix of reality

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and see the raw code, the ones and zeros, you

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would be seeing what Pythagoras saw in the Tetractys.

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The belief that reality is, at its root, a mathematical

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structure. And we can't forget the vegetarians.

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Right. This is a fun piece of trivia. For over

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2 ,000 years, if you didn't eat meat, you weren't

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called a vegetarian. That word didn't exist until

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the 1840s. So what were you called? You were

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called a Pythagorean. The Pythagorean diet meant

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a meat -free diet. So if I'm in London in 1810

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and I order a salad at a restaurant, I'm eating

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a Pythagorean meal. Exactly. The Roman poet Ovid

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wrote a long, passionate speech for Pythagoras

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in his epic poem, The Metamorphoses, where he

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pleads for the lives of animals based on the

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doctrine of reincarnation. And that speech was

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hugely influential. Hugely. It inspired Percy

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Shelley, Lord Chesterfield, Henry David Thoreau,

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Leo Tolstoy. The modern animal rights and vegetarian

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movements trace their intellectual DNA directly

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back to that madman who stopped a man from beating

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a puppy. It is incredible to think about. We

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started this whole deep dive with the dusty classroom

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triangle. And we've ended up with a golden -thighed

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shaman who influenced everything from quantum

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mechanics to the veggie burger. It is the great

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paradox, isn't it? We like to think of science

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and reason as the opposite of religion and mysticism.

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But the roots of our scientific tradition, that

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fundamental faith that the universe makes sense,

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that it is order, that it can be described with

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a simple, elegant formula, that faith was born

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in a cult. He looked at the chaos of the world,

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the tyrants, the wars, the confusing beings,

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and he said, no, underneath all this, there is

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a pattern, there is a harmony, there is a song.

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And whether he personally proved the theorem

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or not, that fundamental insight that the world

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is intelligible, that we can understand it through

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reason and math, that is arguably the most important

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idea in the history of human thought. So here

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is a thought to leave you with. If Pythagoras

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believed the universe was made of numbers, and

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today we are building artificial intelligences

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made of code, and we describe the fabric of space

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-time itself with mathematical equations, did

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the mystic from Samos actually get it right?

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Maybe the universe really is just music and after

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2 ,500 years we are finally learning how to hear

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it. Next time you look up at the night sky, try

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to listen for the hum. Thanks for diving deep

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with us. See you next time.
