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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are taking

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on a giant. I don't use that word lightly. No,

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not at all. We are talking about a name that

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is practically synonymous with luxury, with France,

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and with a very specific kind of effortless,

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intimidating cool. We're talking about Gabrielle

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Coco Chanel. It is a massive topic. You would

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be hard pressed to find a brand with more global

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recognition. Right. The double C logo, the number

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five perfume, the quilted bags with the chain

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straps. It is part of the cultural furniture.

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It's, you know, it's the uniform of a certain

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type of success. Exactly. But the mission for

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today's deep dive is a little different. We aren't

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just here to talk about hem lengths or, you know,

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the price of a handbag. Not just that. We are

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here to look at the massive, sometimes incredibly

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uncomfortable gap between the brand, which is

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all about this polished. minimalist, perfect

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elegance, and the reality of the woman who created

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it. Because when you dig into these sources,

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and we have a stack of them today, including

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biographies, business histories, and crucially

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declassified intelligence files, the reality

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is messy. Messy is a very polite way of putting

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it. It is dark. It is complicated. And it is

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filled with contradictions. It really is. I think

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the central tension we need to explore today

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is this. Coco Chanel is the only fashion designer

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listed on Time magazine's list of the 100 most

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influential people of the 20th century. That's

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a huge deal. It's a huge accolade. It puts her

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up there with Einstein and Gandhi. She liberated

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women from corsets. She changed how we smell.

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She changed how we view a suntan. But her legacy

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is also... deeply marred by betrayal, by ruthless

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ambition, and, as we will get into later, by

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active wartime collaboration with the Nazis.

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It's a study in branding versus reality, right?

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How one woman's personal trauma and her prejudices

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shaped the way women dress today. Absolutely.

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And how a brand can sort of sanitize that history.

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So let's unpack this. We have to start at the

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beginning, or at least the beginning that she

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tried so desperately to hide. Yes. Because one

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of the things that stands out immediately in

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the research is that Chanel was a compulsive

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liar. about her own past. She was a myth maker

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from day one. If you asked Chanel about her childhood,

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the story shifted constantly depending on who

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she was trying to impress or what narrative she

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was trying to spin. So what was the official

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story she told? Well, she claimed she was born

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a decade later than she actually was, which is

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a classic vanity move, sure. But she went deeper.

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She told people her father sailed to America

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to seek his fortune in the wine trade. Right.

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A romantic, adventurous father. She painted this

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picture of a somewhat tragic but comfortable

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upbringing with wealthy aunts in a country estate.

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It was all fiction. But the documents tell a

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completely different story. A completely different

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story. The reality was grim and, frankly, Dickensian.

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Gabrielle Chanel was born in 1883, and she wasn't

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born in a comfortable home. She was born in a

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charity hospital in Saumur. Which was really

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a poor house. It was a poor house, essentially.

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Her mother, Jeanne, was a laundry woman who was

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constantly sick. Her father, Albert, was an itinerant

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street vendor who peddled work clothes and undergarments

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from a cart. They lived a nomadic, hand -to -mouth

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existence traveling from market town to market

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town. There's this one detail from her birth

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certificate that I found fascinating because

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it really encapsulates her relationship with

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her own identity. The name. The name. Her name

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is misspelled on the official record. That's

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right. It's recorded as Chasnell with an S. C

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-H -A -S -N -E -L. It was a clerical error. And

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how did that happen? Her mother was too ill to

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attend the registration, and her father was.

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Well, he was likely traveling or just absent,

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avoiding the cost or responsibility. So some

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clerk just wrote it down wrong. But here's the

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telling part. Gabrielle never corrected it. Never.

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Because to correct it legally would have meant

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admitting where she was born. Would mean producing

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the document that said hospice. It would reveal

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the poverty. Exactly. She would rather live with

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a typo on her legal documents for her entire

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life than reveal the shame of her birth. She

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took that secret to her grave. That sets the

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stage for everything that follows. It's this

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deep, deep shame about where she came from. And

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things didn't get better. No, they got much worse.

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Her mother died young, right? Yes, her mother

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died of tuberculosis at age 32. Gabrielle was

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only about 11 or 12 years old. And this is the

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moment of the great abandonment. The abandonment.

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Her father, the street peddler, didn't even try

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to keep the family together. He sent his two

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sons off to work as farm laborers, which was

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effectively indentured servitude. And the daughters.

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He took the three daughters, Gabrielle, Julia

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Bertha, and Antoinette, to the convent of Abazine.

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This is the orphanage. Correct. It was run by

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the Congregation of the Sacred Heart of Mary.

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It was an orphanage founded to care for the poor

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and rejected. A stark, frugal, strictly disciplined

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life. And her father just left them there. He

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dropped them off, promised he would come back

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for them, and never saw them again. Just imagine

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the psychological impact of that. The abandonment

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issues must have been off the charts. Completely.

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And it forged this incredible self -reliance

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in her, but also this profound... But here is

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where it gets really interesting for us, looking

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back at her designs. You can actually trace the

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DNA of the Chanel brand directly back to this

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dark, cold orphanage. Absolutely. If you look

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at the aesthetic of Abazine, it's all grays,

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blacks, and whites. It's austere. It's clean

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lines. There's no clutter, no fuss. It's the

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Chanel color palette. It is. That environment,

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which she hated and tried to hide, seeped into

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her visual vocabulary. And of course, it's also

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where she learned to sew. The nuns taught her

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the trade that would make her millions. But it

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was more than just the sewing, wasn't it? It

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was a whole philosophy. I think so. The philosophy

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of less is more likely started there. It wasn't

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minimalism as a chic choice. It was minimalism

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as a necessity. It was the only reality she knew

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for six years. And the visual cues are so specific.

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So specific. The nuns wore black habits with

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white wimples. That high contrast, black and

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white, became the signature Chanel. look. The

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patterns on the stone floors of the abbey are

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said to have inspired the interlocking sea logo.

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No way, really. It's one of the strongest theories.

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The stained glass windows had these interlaced

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patterns. And even later in life, when she built

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her luxurious villa, La Pausa, the architecture

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included staircases and patio elements that were

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direct references to the Romanesque architecture

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of that orphanage. So she was constantly trying

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to escape her past, yet she kept rebuilding it

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in her designs. She was processing it through

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her work, consciously or not. It's fascinating.

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So she leaves the convent at 18. She moves to

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a boarding house in Moulin, and this is where

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we get the birth of Coco. Right. She didn't start

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as a designer. Right. She wanted to be a performer.

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She did. She had aspirations for the stage. She

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worked as a seamstress by day at a tailor shop.

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But at night, she sang in a cabaret in Moulin

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called La Rotonde. And what was this place like?

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It was a café concert, a rowdy venue frequented

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by cavalry officers stationed nearby. This is

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a crucial detail, the military presence. She

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was surrounded by men with status and, more importantly,

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money. But she wasn't a star, though. She was

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what they called a possess. A possess. What does

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that entail? Basically, a performer who entertained

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the crowd between the main acts. You sang a song

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or two while the headliner changed costumes,

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and then you walked through the crowd passing

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a plate to collect money. So it was correct.

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Yeah. Not glamorous. Not at all. It was humiliating

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work, really. It was begging with a song. And

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the name Coco, where does that come from? There

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are two main theories, and both are interesting.

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Theory A is that it came from the songs she sang.

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She had a limited repertoire that included these

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catchy, silly songs like Coco Rico, which mimicked

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a rooster crowing, and Kikavu Coco, which translates

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to Who Has Seen Coco, a song about a girl who

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lost her dog. So the officers would call out,

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Coco, Coco, when they wanted her to sing. And

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Theory B? Theory B is a bit darker, but linguistically

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plausible. It's an allusion to the French word...

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Cocotte, which means a kept woman or a courtesan.

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Given the environment of the cabaret where women

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were often looking for wealthy protectors among

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the officers, the nickname likely carried a double

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entendre. It was playful, but it marked her social

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status. And I assume she didn't make it as a

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singer. No. She tried to get a gig in Vichy,

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which was a more upscale resort town with a proper

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stage, but her voice was described as marginal.

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She realized pretty quickly that she wasn't going

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to be the next great Chanteuse. She didn't have

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the talent for the stage. So the stage door closes

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and the bedroom door opens, if we can be that

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blunt. We can. Because her entry into high society,

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and really her entry into the world of luxury,

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comes through men. She realized early on that

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men were the key to the door she wanted to open.

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It does. She becomes the mistress of Etienne

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Balsam. He was a wealthy textile heir and an

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ex -cavalry officer she met at the cabaret. So

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he was her ticket out. He was. At 23, she moves

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into his estate, the Chateau Royal Lou. And this

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is a massive shift. She goes from the poorhouse

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and the seamstress shop to a world of horses,

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hunting, and pure decadence. This is where she

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sees what the rich life actually looks like.

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Exactly. And it's not just observing it. She's

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participating in it. Balsan showered her with

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diamonds, pearls, and dresses. But the interesting

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thing is, she... projected a lot of the fussy

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fashion of the other courtesans. She starts borrowing

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from the men's wardrobe. She starts wearing equestrian

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gear. She realizes she can't ride a horse aggressively

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in a restrictive dress, so she wears trousers

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or dodpers. She takes his tweed jackets, his

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ties. She's adapting. She's adapting for comfort

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and function. And she starts designing hats as

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a diversion, just something to do while living

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this life of leisure. She would take the hats

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of the other women, which were covered in fruit

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and stuffed birds, and strip them down, making

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them simple, stark straw boaters. The Chanel

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aesthetic is already there. It's bubbling up.

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But she doesn't stay with Balsan forever. She

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leaves him for his friend, which is a bit of

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a scandal in itself. Yes, enter Arthur Boy Capel.

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He is arguably the love of her life. Chanel famously

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said of this time, She's very unsentimental about

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it. Very. It shows how transactional she viewed

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these relationships, even the most important

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one. Capelle was English, from a wealthy industrial

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family, and had a very different style than the

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French aristocrats. He wore blazers. He used

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jersey fabrics for his sports gear. He was a

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polo player. And he puts his money where his

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mouth is. He finances her. He sees her talent

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with the hats and believes in her. He sets her

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up. He pays for her first shops in Paris and

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Deauville. But his influence goes way beyond

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the bank account. You mean his style? His personal

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style. His wardrobe inspired the Chanel look,

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the blazers, the clean lines, the androgyny.

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There is even a theory that the iconic square

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design of the Chanel No. 5 bottle was adapted

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from his toiletry bottles or his whiskey decanter.

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That is wild. You look at that perfume bottle

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today and you see the epitome of feminine luxury.

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But it might just be a whiskey decanter from

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her. English lover. It shows how she absorbed

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everything around her. She was a sponge for style

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cues that she could then refine and sell. But

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this relationship ends in tragedy. A terrible

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tragedy. Capelle died in a car accident in 1919.

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It devastated her. She told a friend, in losing

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Capelle, I lost everything. She never really

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got over it, did she? It doesn't seem so. She

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reportedly commissioned a roadside memorial at

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the site of the crash. It hardened her. It fueled

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her ambition. But it also left her very alone

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at the top. She never married. And crucially,

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she never relied on a man financially again after

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that. Before he died, though, they had already

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started the revolution. They opened boutiques

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in Deauville and Biarritz. Right. And this is

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where the brand really starts to take shape.

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It wasn't haute couture initially. It was...

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Deluxe casual clothing. And the timing was perfect.

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Timing is everything. She opens in Deauville

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in 1913. This is a seaside resort for the rich

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right before and then during the start of World

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War I. Women's lives were changing. And she used

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her family as marketing. Brilliant marketing.

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She used her sister Antoinette and her aunt Adrienne

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as living mannequins. They would walk the boardwalks

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in Deauville wearing her simple, chic creations.

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Everyone asked, who are those girls and where

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did they get those outfits? And she opens in

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Biarritz in 1915, which was neutral territory

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during the war. Yes. A villa opposite a casino.

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It was a huge success. The wives of rich industrialists

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from Spain and other neutral countries flocked

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to her. The business was so massive, she reimbursed

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Capell's entire investment within a year. By

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1919, she is officially a registered couturier.

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And the clothes themselves were radically different.

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Let's talk about jersey. Today, we think of jersey

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as just t -shirt material. But back then, using

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jersey for women's clothing was... Insane. It

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was scandalous. Before Chanel, jersey and tricot

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were used almost exclusively for men's underwear.

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Men's underwear. Yes. It was considered an ordinary

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fabric. It was difficult to handle it, unraveled

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if you cut it wrong, and it didn't hold a rigid

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structure. Couture was all about structure boning,

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taffeta, stiffness. Jersey was the opposite of

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that. So why did she use it? Two reasons, and

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both are classic Chanel. Functionality and cost.

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Remember, she was cost -conscious in the beginning.

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Jersey was cheap. She bought surplus stock from

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a manufacturer named Rodier. But the bigger reason

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was the aha moment about what women needed. Exactly.

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The changing world. World War I meant women were

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working. They were nurses. They were in factories.

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They were volunteering. They couldn't be strapped

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into corsets. They needed to move. They needed

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to ride bicycles. They needed to be able to dress

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themselves without a maid because the maids were

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working in munitions factories. So she takes

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this cheap underwear fabric and turns it into

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high fashion because it allows women to actually

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breathe and live. Precisely. She liberated the

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body. She made the poor look expensive. It's

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the ultimate subversion. She takes the fabric

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of the working class and sells it to the aristocracy.

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She basically said luxury must be comfortable.

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Otherwise, it is not luxury. And speaking of

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subversion, we have to talk about the suntan

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because this is another thing we take for granted

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now. But she basically invented the concept of

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the fashionable tan. She did. And you have to

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understand what a massive cultural shift this

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was. Historically, pale skin was the mark of

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the upper class. Right. It meant you didn't have

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to work in the fields. A tan was for peasants.

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It was a sign of labor. But Chanel goes to the

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Riviera, she spends too much time on a yacht

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with the Duke of Westminster, she sunbags, and

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she comes back to Paris bronzed. And because

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she is Chanel, suddenly a tan becomes a symbol

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of leisure. It means you have the time and money

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to sit on a yacht in the Mediterranean. She completely

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flipped the script on class markers, just with

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her own skin color. The power she had is just

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staggering. And then, of course, the little black

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dress. The LBD. 1926. Vogue publishes a drawing

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of a simple black Chanel dress. They called it

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the Ford of fashion, referencing the Model T

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Ford. Which doesn't sound like a compliment for

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high fashion, but it was. It was a massive compliment.

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It meant it was the new standard. It was modern,

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accessible, and ubiquitous. Before Chanel, black

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was for mourning or for servants. She made it

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chic. And I bet the establishment hated it. The

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male journalists hated it. They complained that

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there was no more bosom, no more stomach, no

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more rump. They said she was erasing. the female

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form. But Chanel didn't care. She said, I imposed

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black. It's still going strong today. And she

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was right. And it also became practical during

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the Depression. Absolutely essential. It was

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affordable elegance. You could have one good

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black dress and change the look with accessories.

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It was democratizing style. So by the late 20s

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and 30s, she is the queen of fashion. But she

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wants more. She wants into the perfume game.

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Yes. And this leads us to what I call the perfume

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war. This is a business saga that spans decades

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and gets incredibly nasty. This is the seed of

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the darkness that comes later. In 1921, she creates

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Chanel No. 5 with the perfumer Ernest Beaux.

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It was revolutionary, the first perfume to use

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aldehydes, which gave it that sparkle. But she

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couldn't make it and sell it on her own, not

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at scale. No, she didn't have the manufacturing

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or distribution network to sell it globally.

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So in 1924, she strikes a deal with the Wertheimer

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brothers, Pierre and Paul. And who were they?

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They were the directors of the Bourgeois Perfume

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House, the biggest cosmetic company in France

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at the time. They had the factories, the supply

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chains, the global reach. And the breakdown of

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this deal is infamous. It is. The Wertheimers

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put up all the capital. They handle production,

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marketing, distribution, everything. For taking

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on all that risk and for providing all that infrastructure,

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they take 70 % of the profits. Okay. The broker

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who introduced them, Theophile Bader, who founded

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the Galleries Lafayette, he takes 20%. And Chanel.

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She gets 10%. 10%. Now, at the time, 10 % of

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zero was zero. So maybe it seemed okay. At the

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time, she probably thought, I put in no money.

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I do no work. I get a check. It was passive income.

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But once None 5 became the biggest selling perfume

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in the world, that 10 % nodded. her. She felt

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cheated. She felt completely cheated. She referred

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to Pierre Wertheimer as the bandit who screwed

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me. She spent the next 20 years obsessed with

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getting control of the company back. She hired

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lawyers. She sued them. She smeared them in the

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press. And that obsession leads us directly into

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the darkest chapter of her life, World War II.

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Yes. This is where the story shifts from a business

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drama to a war thriller. So 1939, war breaks

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out. What does Chanel do? She closes the couture

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house. Immediately. She fires 4 ,000 employees,

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putting them out on the street at the beginning

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of a war. What was her reasoning? The official

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line might have been, it's not a time for fashion,

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but sources suggest this was retaliation. There

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had been a general labor strike in 1936, where

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workers demanded higher wages and better conditions,

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and they locked her out of her own shop. Chanel

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never forgave him. So she saw the war as an opportunity

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for revenge. It seems so. She saw it as a chance

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to shut it all down and put those women out of

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work as punishment. That is incredibly petty.

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But what she does next is, well, it's treasonous.

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She moves into the Hotel Ritz. The Ritz was the

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headquarters for the German military staff in

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Paris. It was the epicenter of the occupation.

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She didn't just live there. She lived there comfortably

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in a luxury suite alongside the highest ranking

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German officers. And she takes a lover. Baron

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Hans Gunther von Dinklage, known as Spatz. Yes,

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Spatz. Tell us about him. He wasn't just some

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German aristocrat with a fancy title. He was

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an operative in military intelligence, the Abwehr.

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He had been a spy since the 1920s. He reported

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directly to Berlin. He was a professional intelligence

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officer. And he was her ticket to a comfortable

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life during the war. He was. He eased her life

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at the Ritz. He protected her. He was her ticket

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to safety and luxury while the rest of Paris

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was starving and freezing. And she decides to

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use the Nazi occupation to finally settle the

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score with the Wertheimers. This is truly damning.

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She attempts to use the Nazi Aryanization laws

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to seize the perfume company. Explain what those

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laws were. These were laws designed to strip

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Jews of their property, their businesses, their

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homes, their art, and hand it all over to Aryans.

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The Wertheimers were Jewish. So she weaponized

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anti -Semitism for business. She did. She petitions

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the German officials, writing that the company

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Parfums Chanel is still the property of Jews

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and claiming her indisputable right to sole ownership.

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She tries to use the Holocaust, essentially,

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to get a better business deal. That is chilling.

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Does it work? No. The Wertheimers were smart.

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They saw this coming. Before they fled to the

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U .S. in 1940, they legally transferred control

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of the company to a Christian friend, a French

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businessman named Felix Amiot. And who was Amiot?

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Amiot supplied aircraft to the Germans, so he

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was untouchable. He was a collaborator himself,

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but a useful one. So when the Germans looked

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into the perfume company, it was technically

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Aryan -owned. He was outmaneuvered? Completely.

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Amiot held the company for them throughout the

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war and then gave it right back to them afterward.

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Chanel was outmaneuvered by the very people she

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tried to destroy. But she didn't stop at trying

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to steal the business. She actually became an

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operative. We have the documents now. We do.

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Declassified files from the French Defense Ministry

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released after her death show she was listed

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as an agent for German military intelligence,

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the Abwehr. Her agent number was F7124. And her

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codename was Westminster. Codename Westminster.

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Why that name? It was a nod to her previous affair

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with the Duke of Westminster, who was one of

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the wealthiest men in Britain. It again shows

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this bizarre mixing of her social life and her

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espionage. She treated international espionage

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like a social club. So what did Agent Westminster

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actually do? Her big mission was called Operation

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Model Hut. Which means Model Hat. Model Hat.

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This was late in the war, 1943 into 1944. The

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Germans were losing. Some of the SS leadership,

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specifically Walter Schellenberg, who was high

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up in the intelligence service, wanted to broker

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a separate peace with Britain to avoid total

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annihilation. And Chanel thought she could help

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with this. She proposed that she could use her

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personal connection to Winston Churchill, who

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she knew from her days with the Duke of Westminster,

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to act as an intermediary. She thought she could

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just walk up to Churchill and end the war. Her

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ego was that big. She believed her charm and

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her connections could solve World War II. She

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travels to Madrid with her SS. And what happened?

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The whole plan collapsed immediately. She traveled

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with a woman named Vera Bate Lombardi, who was

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also connected to Churchill. But Lombardi, upon

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arriving in Madrid, realized she was being used

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as a pawn for the Nazis and promptly denounced

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Chanel as a spy to the British embassy. So the

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mission fails, the war ends, the Nazis are defeated,

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collaborators are being shaved bald and marched

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through the streets of Paris, or worse, executed.

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How on earth does Chanel escape justice? She

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is interrogated by the Free French Purge Committee

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in 1944, but she is released within a few hours.

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How is that possible? There was no documented

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evidence available at that moment to hold her.

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The files we have now were still hidden in German

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archives. But the rumors and her own claims persist

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that she played her trump card, Winston Churchill.

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She told people Churchill had me freed. Why would

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Churchill protect a Nazi agent? That is the million

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-dollar question. The prevailing theory is that

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Churchill wasn't protecting Chanel. He was protecting

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the British aristocracy and even members of the

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royal family. How so? Chanel knew everyone's

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secrets. She knew which powerful British figures

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had been sympathetic to the Nazis before the

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war. A public trial would have aired all that

00:23:06.170 --> 00:23:09.680
dirty laundry. It's very likely Churchill intervened

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to keep a quiet and prevent a massive scandal

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for the crown. So she goes into exile in Switzerland.

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Yeah. She's safe, but she's out of the game.

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For a while. She spends almost a decade in Switzerland

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living off her perfume money. But she's watching.

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She sees fashion changing. The 1950s come around

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and Christian Dior launches the new look. And

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she hates it. She loathes it. The new look was

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everything she fought against. It was cinched

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waist, padded hips, structured busts. It was

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the return of the corset, essentially. It was

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heavy. It was restrictive. What did she say about

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it? She called it illogical. She said, Dior doesn't

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dress women. He upholsters them. She couldn't

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stand seeing her life's work of liberation being

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undone by a man. So in 1954, at over 70 years

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old, she decides to make a comeback. But she

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needs money. And this is the part that blows

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my mind. Yes. Who pays for the comeback? This

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is the ultimate irony. Pierre Wertheimer. The

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man she called a bandit. The man she tried to

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use the Nazis to destroy. He finances her return.

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Why? Why on earth would he do that? Business.

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Pure pragmatism. He owned the perfume. The perfume

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was still a cash cow, but the Chanel brand needed

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the glamour of the couture house to stay relevant.

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If Chanel faded into obscurity, the perfume might

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too. So he needed her name to sell his product.

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He needed her name. So they made a new deal,

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a much better deal for her this time. She got

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her wartime profits, which were huge, about $9

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million in today's money, plus 2 % of global

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matcher, five sales for life, and Wertheimer

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agreed to pay all her living expenses. Talk about

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failing upwards. She tried to ruin him, and he

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ended up paying her rent for the rest of her

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life. It's an incredible business story. So she

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opens her comeback show, 1954. What's the reaction?

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The French press destroyed her. They hadn't forgotten

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the war. They called the collection old -fashioned

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and made pointed references to her collaboration.

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They sat on their hands in silence. It was a

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disaster in Paris. But... The Americans and the

00:25:08.039 --> 00:25:10.299
British loved it. They didn't care as much about

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the politics. They cared about the clothes. Vogue

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US hailed it as a breakthrough. They loved the

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youthful elegance and the comfort. And an editor

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bought a suit, right? Yes. Bettina Ballard, a

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Vogue editor, bought a suit for herself right

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after the show. And that sparked the sales in

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the US. The American market saved her. And this

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is when we get the icons that we know today.

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The definitive versions. Yes. The comeback gave

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us the Chanel suit as we know it. And again,

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this is about engineering as much as style. The

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jacket was cut on the straight grain so it didn't

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buckle or pull. No stiffening. No shoulder pads.

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And the chain and the hem. The famous gold chain

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sewn into the silk lining of the hem just to

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make it hang perfectly flat. It was all about

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function. I read about the bus test. Yes. She

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would make models step up onto a platform as

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if they were climbing the high step of a bus

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or bend down like they were getting into a low

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sports car. If the skirt hiked up too much or

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the armhole restricted movement, she would rip

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it apart and start over. It had to work for modern

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life. And the bag? The 2 .55? Launched in February

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1955. Hence the name, 2 .55. And this bag is

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an autobiography in leather. How so? The shoulder

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strap. She was tired of holding clutches at parties.

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She wanted her hands free for a drink and a cigarette

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like a soldier's bag. Okay, that makes sense.

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The chain strap. It echoes the chalains, the

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keychains, worn by the nun caretakers at the

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orphanage. The burgundy lining, that was the

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color of the convent uniforms. The quilting,

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inspired by the jockey jackets she saw in her

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days with Etienne Balsan. She literally carried

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her entire history on her shoulder. And sold

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it to the world as the ultimate status symbol.

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Let's touch on the jewelry before we wrap up

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the legacy. Yeah. Because she had a very specific

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philosophy there, too. She revolutionized jewelry

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by mixing the real with the fake. She would wear

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massive ropes of faux pearls mixed with real

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gemstones from her aristocratic lovers. Her attitude

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was, it's disgusting to walk around with millions

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around the neck. I only like fake jewelry because

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it's provocative. She made costume jewelry chic.

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She made it a statement. She decoupled value

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from preciousness. It was about style, not just

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wealth. So in her final years, she's rich, she's

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successful, the brand is back on top. Was she

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happy? By all accounts, no. She became tyrannical,

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bitter, and incredibly lonely. She worked constantly.

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She was a habitual morphine user, a habit she'd

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had since 1935. Morphine? Yes. She would inject

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herself to sleep. she died in 1971 at the ritz

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the same hotel she lived in with the nazis her

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home for over 30 years her final words to her

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maid were you see this is how you die wow Stark

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to the end. It is. So let's try to synthesize

00:27:52.750 --> 00:27:55.670
this. We have this woman who is a genius of design,

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a pioneer of feminism and fashion, but also a

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collaborator, a liar, and a generally difficult

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human being. How do we reconcile that? I think

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we have to view her through the lens of functionalism

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and survival. She was a functionalist in her

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clothes pockets, comfortable fabrics, freedom

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of movement, but she was also a functionalist

00:28:12.509 --> 00:28:14.990
in her morals. She did whatever worked. Whatever

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she needed to do to survive and to win. Exactly.

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When she was poor, she used men to get rich.

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When she needed fabric, she used cheap jersey.

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When the Nazis occupied Paris, she used them

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to stay in the Ritz and try to crush her business

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partners. She was utterly ruthless about her

00:28:31.180 --> 00:28:33.779
own survival and comfort. You can't separate

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the genius from the darkness. The 2 .55 bag literally

00:28:38.420 --> 00:28:41.579
carries the memories of the orphanage. The perfume

00:28:41.579 --> 00:28:44.890
bottle might be a lover's whiskey decanter. The

00:28:44.890 --> 00:28:47.029
business empire exists because she made a deal

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with the devil and then another deal with the

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people she tried to destroy. Exactly. And she

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died thinking she had controlled the narrative

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that she had won. But here's a final provocative

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thought for our listeners. When she died, she

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had plans for a monumental state funeral in Paris.

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She wanted to be celebrated as a French icon.

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And what happened? As soon as she passed, French

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intelligence released some of those damaging

00:29:08.250 --> 00:29:10.609
documents we talked about. The files on Agent

00:29:10.609 --> 00:29:13.569
Westminster. Suddenly, the truth was out. The

00:29:13.569 --> 00:29:16.210
funeral plans were quietly scaled back. The state

00:29:16.210 --> 00:29:18.849
stayed away. She was buried quietly in Switzerland.

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The truth always catches up eventually. It does.

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So here is the question for you listening today.

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Next time you walk through a department store

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and you see that white box with the black edges

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or you see the double C logo on a handbag. Does

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knowing the origin of the brand, the attempt

00:29:35.369 --> 00:29:38.170
to use Nazi laws to seize the business, the spy

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number F7124. Does that change how you see the

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luxury? Or is the brand now bigger than the woman?

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Has it successfully outlived her sins? That is

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the question. Thanks for diving deep with us.

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We'll see you in the next one.
