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I want you to just for a second close your eyes

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and imagine the absolute worst case scenario.

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You're in a prison cell. It's damp. It's cold.

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The walls of these thick oppressive stone blocks.

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You're in the city of Pavia. in what we now call

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Northern Italy. And the year is roughly 524 AD.

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Outside that cell, the world feels like it's

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in total chaos. The Roman Empire, you know, greatest

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civilization the world had ever known. It's technically

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fallen. Barbarian kings are running the show.

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It's a genuinely terrifying time. And inside

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that specific cell, it is so much worse. You're

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completely alone. They've stripped you of your

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titles. I mean, your massive wealth, your reputation.

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Everything. Everything. You're cut off from your

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family. And you know, you know with this cold,

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hard certainty that you are going to die. And

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it's not going to be a peaceful death. It's going

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to be an execution, a brutal one. Yeah, it sounds

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like the opening scene of some kind of psychological

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horror film. Yeah. But this isn't fiction. This

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is history. And the man sitting in that cell

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is Aeneas Manlius Severinus Boethius. Now, I

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think most people in that situation, they would

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just break, wouldn't they? Oh, completely. You'd

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scream, you'd beg, or maybe you'd just stare

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at the wall in catatonic shock. But Boethius...

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He did something completely different. He did

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something extraordinary. In the face of torture

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and certain death, he didn't panic. He wrote.

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He picked up a stylus and he wrote a book that

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would go on to become one of the most influential

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texts in the entire history of the Western world.

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And that is the paradox we're exploring today

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on this deep dive. The book is The Constellation

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of Philosophy. And the man, Boethius, is someone

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you absolutely need to know. He's often called...

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The last of the Romans. And the schoolmaster

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of the Middle Ages. Those are heavy titles. The

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last Roman. I mean, it implies he was the final

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flickering candle of a world that was just going

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dark. It really does. Exactly. And our mission

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today is to unpack that. We want to understand

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how this one man served as a kind of human bridge.

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He's standing there with one foot. planted firmly

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in the classical world of Plato, Aristotle and

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the Roman Senate. And the other foot is stepping

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into the rising Middle Ages of, you know, knights

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and monks and cathedrals. And without him, that

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connection might have just snapped. So today

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we're going to explore his massive intellectual

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project. I mean, his goal was to translate all

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of Greek thought into Latin. We'll look at his

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meteoric rise to political power. Yeah, he was

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basically the prime minister of Italy. He was.

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And then his tragic... incredibly violent fall.

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And we have a serious stack of sources to help

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us do it. We're pulling from historical records

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from the Ostrogothic court. We've got biographies

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by scholars like Helen Barrett and John Moorhead.

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And of course, Boethius' own words, his treatises

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on music, arithmetic, logic, and the consolation

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itself. It's a story of genius, power, corruption,

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and ultimately of transcendence. So let's start

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at the very beginning. Who was this guy? Let's

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set the stage. Part one, The Last Roman. To really

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understand Boethius, you have to understand the

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world he was born into. So he's born around 480

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A .D. in Rome itself. Now, if you check your

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standard history textbook, it'll tell you the

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Western Roman Empire fell in 476 A .D. Right.

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That's the date everyone learns. When the last

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emperor, this kid named Romulus Augustulus, gets

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kicked off the throne by Odoacer. Exactly. So

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your first thought is, OK. Boethius is born into

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the Dark Ages. It's post -apocalyptic, right?

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Mad Max with Togus. Well, that's the popular

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narrative, but it's not really true. The fall

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of Rome wasn't like a light switch just flicking

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off. It was much more like a dimmer switch slowly

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fading over a century. When Boethius was a kid,

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Rome was still Rome. What do you mean by that?

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I mean, the buildings were there, the Colosseum,

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the Forum. The Senate was still meeting in the

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Curia. The aristocracy was still fantastically

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wealthy. They were still wearing their togas

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and holding your offices. The only real difference

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was that the man at the very top wasn't a Roman

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emperor anymore. He was a Germanic king. First,

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Odoacer, and then the man who really defines

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this whole era, the Order of the Great. King

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of the Ostrogoths. Exactly. Theoderic is this

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endlessly fascinating figure. He's a goth, a

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barbarian in the eyes of the Romans, but he was

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actually raised as a royal hostage in Constantinople.

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Oh, right. So he was educated. Deeply. He loved

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Roman culture. He admired it. He wanted to preserve

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what they called civilitist, civilized life,

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the rule of law. So for a Roman aristocrat, life.

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Well, life more or less went on. And Boethius

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wasn't just any aristocrat. He was from the gens

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Anitia. He was an Anitius. The Anitiae. That

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name just sounds important. It was the most important.

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I mean, think of, I don't know, the Kennedys,

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the Rockefellers, and maybe the British royal

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family all rolled into one. The Anitiae had been

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at the absolute... pop of Roman society for centuries.

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It produced emperors, right? Emperors and an

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endless line of consuls. To be an Anicius was

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to be part of the bedrock of Rome itself. You

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were untouchable. Or at least that's what they

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thought. But Boethius himself had kind of a rocky

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start. His father... Manlius Boethius died when

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he was just a little kid, didn't he? Yeah, very

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young. His father had just served as consul in

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487, and then he passed away. So Boethius is

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an orphan, but, you know, in that stratospheric

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layer of Roman society, being an orphan didn't

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mean you were sent to the workhouse. He was immediately

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taken in by a man named Quintus Aurelius Memmius

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Symmachus. Symmachus. We need to remember that

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name. He's a huge figure in this story. He is

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absolutely crucial. Symmachus was the head of

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another of these great ancient families. He was

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a former consul, a historian, but more than that,

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he was a serious intellectual, a true philosopher

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statesman in that old Roman tradition. He didn't

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just give Boethius a home. He mentored him. He

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saw this brilliant young mind and decided to

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cultivate it. And it became a family affair because

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Boethius eventually married Symmachus' daughter,

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Rusticiana. He did. So his mentor becomes his

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father -in -law. It's an incredibly tight circle

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of elite intellectual aristocrats. And it's in

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this environment, probably in the vast library

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of Symmachus, that Boethius develops the one

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skill that makes him so utterly unique for his

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time. He learned Greek. He mastered Greek. Okay,

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let's unpack this for a minute, because why is

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knowing Greek a superpower? Today, you know,

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being violent is great, but it's not going to

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save civilization. In 500 AD, it was everything.

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You have to remember, for the previous 500, 600

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years, every educated Roman spoke Greek. It was

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a given. Cicero, Caesar, Marcus Aurelius, they

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all read Plato and Aristotle in the original

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Greek. The entire cultural and intellectual DNA

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of Rome was Greek. It was the language of philosophy,

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of science. Of everything that mattered. But

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by the late 5th century, the West was crumbling.

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The education system was collapsing. The trade

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routes, the lines of communication with the Greek

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-speaking East. Constantinople, they were fraying.

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So people were literally forgetting how to read

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the most important books on their own shelves.

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Precisely. It was like a cultural dementia setting

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in across the Latin West. The knowledge of Greek

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was just vanishing from Italy. So Boethius was

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one of the very, very last people in the West

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who could pick up a copy of Aristotle's Physics

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and actually understand what it said. That is

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just wild to think about. He's holding the keys

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to the entire library of Western thought, and

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almost everyone else is forgetting how to unlock

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the doors. How did he get that good? Did he study

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abroad? That is the great debate among historians.

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For a long time, the standard theory, the one

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you'd see in Gibbon's Decline and Fall, was that

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Boethius must have spent his youth in Athens.

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They said, you know, 18 years in Athens. It makes

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a certain kind of sense, doesn't it? Sure. Go

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to the source. You want to learn philosophy?

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You go to the academy. But modern scholars, people

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like Helen M. Barrett, have really pushed back

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against that. They point out that, you know,

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the Athens of 500 A .D. wasn't exactly the Harvard

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of philosophy anymore. The Neoplatonic Academy

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had been closed or was in serious decline. And

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there's actually zero concrete evidence he ever

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left Italy. Really? So no student visa records

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or anything? Nothing. Well, another theory is

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that he might have gone to Alexandria in Egypt

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to study with the great Neoplatonist Ammonius

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Hermiae, because some of their writing styles

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are very, very similar. But the most likely scenario,

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championed by scholars like John Moorhead, is

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that he might have just had incredible tutors

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right there in Rome, perhaps Greek scholars who

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were fleeing the instability in the East and

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found a wealthy patron in Symmachus. So he might

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have been essentially homeschooled by the best

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minds available. But however she got the skills.

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The important thing is what he decided to do

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with them. And this brings us to part two, the

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grand intellectual project. Yes. This is where

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we see the sheer, almost terrifying scale of

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Boethius's ambition. He looked around him. He

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saw that his civilization was losing its memory.

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And he decided he personally was going to do

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something about it. He announced a project that...

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I mean, it makes me tired just thinking about

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it. What was the goal? His stated goal was to

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translate the entirety of Plato and the entirety

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of Aristotle into Latin. Every single book. Every

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dialogue. Every single word. thousands and thousands

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of pages of the most difficult philosophical

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Greek you can imagine. That's a lifetime's work

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on its own. And that wasn't even the whole plan.

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He don't just want to translate them. He wanted

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to write detailed commentaries explaining what

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they meant. And then, and this is the real holy

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grail of his project, he wanted to write a final

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synthesis demonstrating that Plato and Aristotle,

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who everyone thought were in conflict, were actually

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in perfect agreement. The Great Reconciliation.

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Showing that Plato, the idealist, and Aristotle

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the Realist were really just two sides of the

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same coin. Precisely. And... implicitly that

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their combined wisdom was perfectly compatible

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with christian theology we should probably clarify

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that boethius was a devout christian right oh

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absolutely a staunch nicene catholic he wrote

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some very complex theological tracks on the nature

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of the trinity and the incarnation his ultimate

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goal was to build this unified theory of everything

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greek reason and christian faith standing together

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supporting one another wow if he had actually

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finished that project the history of the world

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might look very different. There wouldn't have

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been a dark ages in terms of lost knowledge.

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We might have had the Renaissance about 800 years

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early. I mean, it's not an exaggeration, but

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sadly, he didn't finish. He got sidetracked by

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his political career and, well, his execution.

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But what he did manage to complete became the

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foundation for the entire medieval curriculum.

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He basically wrote the textbooks. Let's talk

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about that curriculum. He's famous for popularizing

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the concept of the quadrivium. The four ways.

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He actually coined the term. It consisted of

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arithmetic, geometry, music, and astronomy. These

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were the four mathematical arts, the higher learning

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that came after the basic trivium of grammar,

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logic, and rhetoric. And his take on these subjects

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is so different from ours. I was reading about

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his book on arithmetic, The Arithmetica. He doesn't

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treat numbers like... you know, abstract tools

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for calculation. He treats them like they have

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personalities. He really does. This is Neo -Pythagorean

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in math. It's not about calculating your taxes.

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It's about understanding the fundamental nature

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of the universe. He gets this from a Greek author

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named Nicomachus. He categorizes numbers. You

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have even and odd, sure, but also evenly even.

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Evenly odd and oddly even. What on earth is an

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evenly odd number? I know, it sounds bizarre.

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It has to do with how many times you can divide

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a number by two. But the point for him was that

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he was exploring the relationships, the ratios,

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the deep structures. He believed that God was

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a geometer, that he created the world using numbers

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as a blueprint. So for Boethius, studying number

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theory was a way of peering into the mind of

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God. And this fascination with ratios and harmony

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leads right into his work on music. The Institutione

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Musica. Now, when I first saw music on the list,

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I thought, OK, cool, he's going to teach us how

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to play the lyre. But that is not what this book

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is about at all, is it? Not even close. In fact,

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Boethius was a bit of an intellectual snob about

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actual musicians. He thought that performing

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on an instrument was mere manual labor, the work

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of an entertainer. So he looked down on the performers.

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He did. He said the true musician was the theorist,

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the philosopher who understands the mathematical

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principles behind the music. For him, music theory

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was a branch of mathematics, a key to understanding

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the ordering principle of the entire cosmos.

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He breaks all of music down into three distinct

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types. Let's go through them, because this is

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so fundamental to how the medieval mind worked.

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First up, musica mundana. The music of the spheres.

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Or the music of the world. Boethius, following

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the Pythagoreans and Plato, argues that the universe

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is made of these massive bodies, the planets,

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the stars, the sun, all moving at incredible

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speeds in perfect, predictable orbits. But then

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he adds the next logical step. We know from experience

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that motion creates sound. If I pluck a string,

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it vibrates and makes a sound. So if these massive

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celestial bodies are moving, they must be producing

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a sound. And because their motion is so perfectly

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ordered and mathematical, that sound must be

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a perfect, unchanging harmony. So the universe

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is literally a giant song, a cosmic symphony.

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Exactly. But I can't hear it. Why can't we hear

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it? That's the great question. Boethius speculates

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on it. He offers a couple of possibilities. Maybe

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the sound is just too overwhelmingly loud for

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our tiny human ears to process. Or, and this

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is the one I find more compelling, maybe it's

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because we have been hearing it constantly since

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the moment we were born. It's the ultimate background

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noise. We've just tuned it out. It's the hum

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of existence. Precisely. That's a beautiful idea.

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Okay, so that's the highest level. What's the

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second type? Musica Humana. The music of the

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human. And again, this isn't about someone singing.

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This is about the harmony within you. It's the

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perfect ratio and balance between your immortal

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soul and your physical body. It's the harmony

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of the four elements or humors in your body.

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It's the harmony between your reason and your

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passions. So when you're healthy and virtuous,

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you are literally in tune. Yes. And when you're

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sick, you're dissonant. When you allow your passions

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to override your reason, you're creating a jarring,

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ugly chord in your own soul. Being a good person

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is a musical state. And then finally, the lowest

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level of the three. Musica instrumentalis. This

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is what we actually call music. The sound produced

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by tension, like on a string, or by wind, like

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in a pipe, or by percussion. For Boethius, this

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was just a dim, imperfect, audible reflection

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of those two higher, inaudible forms of music.

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But it's still important, isn't it? oh it's crucial

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because he believed that by studying it By carefully

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measuring the length of the strings, by calculating

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the mathematical ratios that produce consonant

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intervals like the octave, the fifth, the fourth,

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we could get a glimpse of the higher truths.

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If you understand why a two -to -one ratio in

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a string's length creates a perfect octave, you've

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understood something fundamental about the structure

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of the human soul and the cosmos itself. It's

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incredible. It integrates everything. Math, music,

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ethics, cosmology. It's all one unified system.

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It is. Deep, driving desire to organize all of

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knowledge didn't stop at music. It went right

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to the heart of how we think. And we absolutely

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have to talk about Boethius the Logician. Part

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three, the logic machine. Now, I have to admit,

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logic can feel a little dry. You know, if A,

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then B, therefore C. But you've argued that this

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is actually his most impactful work. Without

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a single doubt. Because this is the part of his

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grand project that he largely completed. He translated

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Porphyry's Isagoge, which is an introduction

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to Aristotle's logic, and he translated two of

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Aristotle's core logical works, the categories,

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and Didae Interpretatione. Now that might not

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sound like much. It doesn't sound like the whole

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library. No, but for the next 600 years, from

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about 550 AD to the middle of the 12th century,

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these few translations by Boethius, along with

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his commentaries on them, were the only texts

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of Greek login available anywhere in Europe.

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Wow. So if you were a monk in, say, the year

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900 AD at a monastery in Ireland or Germany,

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and you wanted to learn how to construct a formal

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argument. You were reading Boethius. He was the

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only game in town. He single -handedly taught

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the West how to think. He gave them the vocabulary,

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the rules for defining terms, for categorizing

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concepts, for building a valid syllogism. He

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essentially wrote the source code for Western

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reasoning for half a millennium. And in doing

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so, he accidentally kicks off what might be the

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biggest philosophical debate of the entire Middle

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Ages. The problem of universals. Right. This

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is a bit abstract, but it's so important. Can

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you break it down for us? I'll try. So Boethius

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is translating this introduction by porphyry,

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and he comes across a question about genera and

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species. Let's use a simple example. We see a

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chair. We see another chair and another. They're

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all individual physical objects. But we have

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this one word, this concept, chair or chairness,

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the universal idea of a chair. Okay. The question

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is, does that universal chairness exist as a

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real thing somewhere? Is there like a perfect,

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ghostly, ideal chair floating in some platonic

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heaven? Or is chair just a word, a sound we make

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with our mouths, a convenient label we use for

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a group of objects that have similar characteristics?

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This is the fight between realism and nominalism.

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Exactly. Realism says the universal idea is real,

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maybe even more real than the physical chairs.

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Nominalism says it's just a name, a nomen. Boethius

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very carefully laid out the arguments for both

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sides. He didn't definitively solve it. He kind

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of leans towards Aristotle's more moderate position.

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But the way he framed the problem became the

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central obsession of medieval philosophy. So

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thinkers like Abelard, William of Ockham, Duns

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Scotus. They spent centuries and wrote thousands

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of pages fighting over the question that Boethius

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put on the table. It shaped everything about

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their theology and philosophy. And he also wrote

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this other book. De Topicis Differentes. Yeah.

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Which, frankly, sounds like a spell from Harry

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Potter. It really does. It's a book on topics

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or loci, which is an old term from rhetoric.

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Yeah. It's basically an advanced manual for how

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to win debates. He explains this concept of maximal

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proposition. A maximal proposition. What is that?

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It's a self -evident truth. It's a statement

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that is so obviously true it needs no proof.

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For example, the whole is greater than the part.

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Or things equal to the same thing are equal to

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each other. The building blocks of reason. Exactly.

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And Boethius explains how you can take these

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undeniable truths and use them as anchors, as

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foundations, to build arguments and prove other,

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more controversial points. He gave people the

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entire toolkit for formal argumentation. So we

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have this picture of Boethius emerging. He's

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a super genius. He's a translator, a mathematician,

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a music theorist, a logician. If he had just

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stayed in his library, he would have been remembered

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as the greatest scholar of his age, but he didn't

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stay in the library. No, he was a Roman of the

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Annici family, and for them, public service,

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a political life, was a duty. It wasn't an option.

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Which brings us to part four, the golden hour,

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his spectacular rise to political power. Boethius

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seems to have met Theoderic the Great around

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the year 500. Boethius was still very young,

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only about 20, but he must have made incredible

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impression on the king. Theodoric realized that

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this young man wasn't just a bookworm. He was

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a practical genius who could solve real -world

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problems. He became Theodoric's fixer. I love

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the list of odd jobs Theodoric gave him. It wasn't

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just, you know, writing laws or managing finances.

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No, it was highly specific technical consulting.

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There's a famous letter from Cassiodorus, Theodoric's

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secretary, where the king asks Boethes to investigate

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the paymaster of the royal bodyguards. The soldiers

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were complaining that the gold coins they were

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being paid with were light. They'd been debased

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with cheaper metals. So Theodoric says. He basically

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says, Boethius, you're the expert on arithmetic

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and geometry. You understand ratios. Go weigh

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the coins, use your science, and catch this fraud

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for me. And the water clock. That's my favorite

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one. Yes. The king of the Burgundians, a rival

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Germanic king named Gundobad, wanted a water

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clock and a sundial as a gift. Theodoric wanted

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to impress him with the superiority of Roman

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technology. So who do you call? You call Boethius.

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He says, build me a clock that will amaze these

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barbarians and show them the power of Roman learning.

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And my other favorite is when he has to find

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a lyre player for Clovis, the king of the Franks.

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It just shows his incredible range. He was the

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minister of science, the minister of culture,

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and the minister of finance all rolled into one.

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And this loyal service paid off spectacularly.

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His rise was meteoric. He was a senator by 25.

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He was made consul by the time he was 33 in the

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year 510. And then in 522 AD, he hits the absolute

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summit, the year of triumph. This is the moment.

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In 522, Theodoric names Boethius Magister Officiorum

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the Master of Offices. This is the highest civilian

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post in the entire government. He's the head

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of the civil service. He's the commander of the

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palace guard. He's the chief of protocol. He

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is, for all intents and purposes, the prime minister.

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And as if that's not enough, his two young sons

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are both named consuls. In the same year. This

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was an unprecedented honor. Usually you'd have

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one consul appointed in Rome and one in Constantinople,

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but the emperor in the east, Justin I, waived

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his right to appoint a consul just to honor Boethius.

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So both of the consulships for that year went

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to Boethius' sons. And there's this incredibly

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vivid description of this day in the consolation.

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Boethius is sitting in the circus, the great

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stadium, the crowd is roaring, his two sons are

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sitting in the curial chairs of the consuls wearing

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the ceremonial purple bordered togas, and Boethius,

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the proud father, is sitting right between them.

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He's distributing largesse to the crowd throwing

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gold coins. He writes later that he felt he had

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won the game of life. He'd restored his family's

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glory. He had wealth, immense power, wisdom,

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a beautiful family, a legacy. He felt he had

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reached the very summit of human happiness. And

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we all know what happens when you reach the absolute

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summit of a wheel. The only way to go is down.

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Part five. The wheel turns. The downfall was

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shockingly fast, and it was brutal. How does

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the most powerful man in the kingdom, besides

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the king himself, end up on death row in just

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two years? It was a perfect storm of court corruption,

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professional jealousy, and shifting geopolitics.

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First, the corruption. As master of offices,

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Boethius took his job seriously. He wasn't there

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to enrich himself. He was there to govern justly.

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And that, of course, made him powerful enemies.

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He actually names them in his book. He calls

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out a guy named Tregea. and another named Cunegast.

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Yes, Cunegast was a powerful Gothic minister.

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Boethius says he was devouring the substance

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of the poor. There was a specific very brave

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incident in the province of Campania. There was

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a famine. The corrupt court officials were trying

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to impose a coemptio basically, a forced purchase

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of all the grain at a fixed low price. Which

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would have wiped out the local farmers and starved

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the province. Completely. It was pure extortion.

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And Boethius, using the authority of his office,

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stepped in and single -handedly blocked it. So

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he saved the people of Campania, but he cost

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Cunegast and his cronies a lot of money. A fortune.

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So he has these powerful enemies in the court

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just waiting for him to make a mistake. And the

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mistake happened with what's known. as the Albinus

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Affair. You have to describe the context here.

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Why was everyone in Theoderic's court so on edge?

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You have to look at the religious and political

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map of the time. Theoderic is an Ostrogoth, and

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crucially, he's an Arian Christian. Which means

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he doesn't believe in the full divinity of Christ.

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The Catholic Church considered it a heresy. A

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major heresy. His subjects, the Roman aristocracy

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like Boethius, are all staunchly Orthodox Nicene

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Catholics. Now, for a long time, there was a

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schism, a big fight between the Catholic pope

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in Rome and the Catholic emperor in Constantinople.

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Which was great for Theodoric. It was perfect

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for him. It kept his potential enemies divided.

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But in 519, the schism ended. The pope and the

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emperor made up. Suddenly, Theoderic feels very,

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very isolated. He's an elderly Aryan king with

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no clear male heir, ruling over a vast Catholic

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population that is now religiously aligned with

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the powerful Roman emperor in the east. He becomes

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deeply paranoid. He starts seeing plots everywhere.

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And then a senator named Albinus gets caught.

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A letter is intercepted. Theoderic's secret police

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claim that Albinus was writing to the emperor

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Justin in Constantinople. They accuse him of

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treason. Albinus is hauled before the royal council,

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which is being held in Verona. And Boethius is

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there. And he makes a fateful choice. He does.

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He stands up to defend his friend and fellow

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senator. According to his own account, he says

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to the king, the charge of Cyprianus is false.

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But if Albinus did that, so also have I and the

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whole senate with one accord done it. It is false,

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my lord king. Okay, so what he was trying to

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say was, this charge is ridiculous. Albinus is

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as loyal as the rest of us senators. Exactly.

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It was a statement of solidarity. But his enemies,

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led by the chief accuser, Cyprianus, twisted

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it. Cyprianus basically jumps up and says, oh,

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you admit it. You and the whole Senate are in

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on it. Thank you for your confession. Then you

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were guilty of treason, too. It's a trap. A beautifully

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laid and sprung trap. And Boethius walked right

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into it. They immediately produced three witnesses

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against him. Men named Basilius, Opelio, and

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Gaudentius. And Boethius claims in the consolation

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that these guys were... Totally unreliable, compromised

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witnesses. He pulls no punches. He says Basilius

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had been fired from the royal service for massive

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deaths. He says Opilio and Gaudentius were known

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fraudsters who had been exiled for their crimes

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and that they were brought back to court specifically

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to perjure themselves against him. He claims

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they were bribed with immunity. But Theoderic,

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in his paranoid state, didn't care. He had the

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confession he wanted. He had his pretext. He

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needed a scapegoat from the Roman aristocracy.

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And Boethius was the most prominent one. Boethius

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was arrested on the spot. He was stripped of

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his insignia. His vast properties were confiscated.

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He wasn't even given a trial in front of the

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Senate, which was his right as a senator. He

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was condemned unheard. And shipped off to that

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prison in Pavia. And that's where we find him.

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Which brings us to part six, the masterpiece,

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the consolation of philosophy. This is the moment

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that defines his entire legacy. He's in that

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cell. He knows he's innocent. He knows he's going

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to die. He is watching his life's work, his reputation,

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his family's honor all turn to ash. Most men

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would be consumed by rage or despair. But Boethius

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turns to his oldest friends, Plato, Aristotle,

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the Stoics. He begins to write a dialogue. It's

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in a form called a prosimitrum, right? Yes. It

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alternates between prose sections and poetry.

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It begins with the character of Boethius sitting

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in his cell, weeping. He's surrounded by the

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muses of poetry, and they're helping him write

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these sad, self -pitying poems about how miserable

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he is and how unfair life has been to him. And

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then suddenly, the room changes. A majestic woman

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appears. He describes her as having eyes that

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were burning and of more than human insight.

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She seems ancient, but also full of youthful

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vector. Her height keeps changing. Sometimes

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she's normal human size, but then her head touches

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the heavens. She's wearing a dress woven by her

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own hands with the Greek letter pi for practical

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philosophy at the bottom hem and theta for theoretical

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philosophy at the top. It's Lady Philosophy herself,

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and she is not happy to see the muses. She is

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furious with them. She screams at them. The translation

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is something like hysterical sluts. She says

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they are just feeding Boethius' sickness with

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their sweet poison of self -pity. She kicks them

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out of the cell. And then she turns to Boethius

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and says, it's time for the strong medicine of

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reason. So the therapy session begins. What is

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her diagnosis of Boethius' problem? She says

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he's suffering from a kind of spiritual amnesia,

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a lethargy. He has forgotten who he truly is.

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He thinks he is just a mortal man who has lost

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his fortune and his good name. She's there to

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remind him that he is an immortal soul whose

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true home is with God. She starts with the famous

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image of the Wheel of Fortune. This is probably

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the most enduring metaphor from the entire book.

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Yes, it's the central image of the first half.

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She says to him, essentially, You are crying

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because Fortune has changed her face to you,

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but that is what Fortune does. She is a wheel.

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She is constantly spinning. One moment you're

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at the top, the next you're at the bottom. If

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you willingly choose to get on her wheel, you

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have no right to complain when it turns. It's

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a very harsh truth. You knew the rules of the

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game when you decided to play. Exactly. She relentlessly

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argues that all the things he lost... Wealth,

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power, fame, honor are not true goods. They are

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gifts of fortune. They are external to him. And

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because they can be taken away at any moment,

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they cannot possibly provide true lasting happiness

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or security. She does this brilliant takedown

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of fame. I love this part. Oh, the astronomy

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argument. It's so good. She says. You're so worried

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about your reputation. Look up at the stars.

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The entire Earth is just a tiny, insignificant

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pinprick in the vastness of the universe. And

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your fame is confined to one tiny corner of that

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pinprick. And even if you are famous across the

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whole globe, time will erase it. In 10 ,000 years,

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who will even know or care who the consul was

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in the year 522 AD? It's the pale blue dot speech.

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1 ,500 years before Carl Sagan, it's a radical

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perspective shift. So if happiness isn't money

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or power or fame, what is it? She leads him through

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this beautiful, tight, logical chain. She argues

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that all humans, by their very nature, desire

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to be happy. True happiness must be a state of

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perfect self -sufficiency, a state where you

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lack nothing. The only being that truly lacks

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nothing, that is perfectly self -sufficient,

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is the supreme good itself. And the supreme good

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is, by another name, God. Therefore, to be truly

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happy is to participate in the divine nature,

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to become godlike through virtue. But then Boethius,

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quite reasonably, hits back with the hardest

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question of all, theodicy, the problem of evil.

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He asked, okay, fine, but if God is the supreme

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good and he is running the universe, why am I,

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a good man in chains while the wicked Kunigas

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is living in luxury and running the country?

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Why does evil exist and why do the wicked prosper?

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This is where the book gets incredibly deep and

00:30:16.910 --> 00:30:19.170
challenging. Lady Philosophy's answer is that

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the wicked are actually, in reality, powerless.

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That sounds absolutely insane to a guy who's

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about to be executed by those wicked people.

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They seem pretty powerful from his perspective.

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Of course. But her argument is a philosophical

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one, she says. Power is the ability to achieve

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your will to get what you want. What does everyone,

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even the wicked, ultimately want? They want happiness.

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The good. The righteous seek that good through

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virtue and they attain it. The wicked seek that

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good through vice, through wealth, pleasure,

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power, and they fail to find it. They constantly

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miss the mark. She says they're like a drunk

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man trying to find his way home. He has the will

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to get home, but he's too incompetent to achieve

00:31:00.200 --> 00:31:02.960
it. He stumbles into a ditch instead. So they're

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not evil. They're just incompetent at being happy.

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They are impotent. They are spiritually dead.

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She argues that the wicked are like walking corpses.

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They might be moving and making noise, but they

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aren't truly existing in the fullest sense because

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they have cut themselves off from the source

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of all existence, which is the good, which is

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God. And she goes even further. She argues that

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the wicked are actually more miserable when they

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get away with their crimes. Yes. She compares

00:31:28.539 --> 00:31:31.880
vice to a disease of the soul. Punishment, then,

00:31:31.980 --> 00:31:35.319
is the medicine, the painful surgery. If a criminal

00:31:35.319 --> 00:31:37.480
is justly punished, he is being given a chance

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to be cured. If he escapes punishment, his soul

00:31:41.220 --> 00:31:43.740
is left to fester and decay in its sickness.

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So Boethius shouldn't envy his persecutors. He

00:31:47.059 --> 00:31:49.500
should pity them. They are the ones who are truly

00:31:49.500 --> 00:31:52.559
imprisoned, truly sick. It's such a radical inversion

00:31:52.559 --> 00:31:54.680
of how we normally see the world. It's deeply

00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:57.539
stoic. It's deeply platonic. But it brings us

00:31:57.539 --> 00:31:59.200
to what you've called the religious mystery of

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the book. The elephant in the room. Boethius

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is a Christian. He's written theological treatises.

00:32:03.849 --> 00:32:06.109
He's facing his own death, the ultimate test

00:32:06.109 --> 00:32:10.390
of faith. But in this entire long, profound book,

00:32:10.589 --> 00:32:13.369
he never once mentions Jesus Christ. He never

00:32:13.369 --> 00:32:15.630
quotes the Bible. He never prays to the saints

00:32:15.630 --> 00:32:18.210
or the Virgin Mary. Why? It is the great puzzle

00:32:18.210 --> 00:32:19.930
of Boethian scholarship, and people have thought

00:32:19.930 --> 00:32:22.349
about it for centuries. Is he secretly a pagan

00:32:22.349 --> 00:32:25.109
who just paid lip service to Christianity for

00:32:25.109 --> 00:32:27.430
his career? That was a theory for a while, wasn't

00:32:27.430 --> 00:32:30.809
it? The historian Arnaldo Momiliano. famously

00:32:30.809 --> 00:32:33.630
argued that Boethius' Christianity just collapsed

00:32:33.630 --> 00:32:36.430
in the face of death, and he reverted to his

00:32:36.430 --> 00:32:38.869
first and truest love, which was Greek philosophy.

00:32:39.400 --> 00:32:42.319
That was the dominant view for a time. But most

00:32:42.319 --> 00:32:45.059
modern scholars, people like C .S. Lewis or Arthur

00:32:45.059 --> 00:32:47.819
Herman, strongly disagree. They argue that Boethius

00:32:47.819 --> 00:32:50.839
was performing a very specific intellectual exercise.

00:32:50.980 --> 00:32:53.240
He was deliberately writing a work of philosophy,

00:32:53.500 --> 00:32:56.200
not theology. He wanted to see how far reason

00:32:56.200 --> 00:32:58.259
alone, without the aid of divine revelation,

00:32:58.579 --> 00:33:01.640
could take a person in distress. So he was intentionally

00:33:01.640 --> 00:33:03.940
sticking to the rules of the genre he chose.

00:33:04.259 --> 00:33:06.440
Exactly. He was trying to build a bridge, not

00:33:06.440 --> 00:33:08.730
choose a side. He wanted to show that the God

00:33:08.730 --> 00:33:10.869
of Plato and Aristotle and the God of Abraham

00:33:10.869 --> 00:33:13.690
and St. Paul were the same God. It's a work of

00:33:13.690 --> 00:33:16.269
Christian apologetics, in a way proving the reasonableness

00:33:16.269 --> 00:33:18.890
of the faith through pure logic. And clearly

00:33:18.890 --> 00:33:21.069
the medieval church saw it that way. They revered

00:33:21.069 --> 00:33:23.309
the book. They just saw lady philosophy as a

00:33:23.309 --> 00:33:25.670
handmaiden to Christian wisdom. There is one

00:33:25.670 --> 00:33:27.329
last argument in the book we have to touch on

00:33:27.329 --> 00:33:29.309
because it solves one of the biggest theological

00:33:29.309 --> 00:33:33.210
problems there is. The conflict between free

00:33:33.210 --> 00:33:36.369
will and God's foreknowledge. Yes, book five.

00:33:36.799 --> 00:33:39.839
The climax of the argument. The problem is simple

00:33:39.839 --> 00:33:43.400
to state, but incredibly hard to solve. If God

00:33:43.400 --> 00:33:45.059
knows everything that will happen, including

00:33:45.059 --> 00:33:47.700
every choice I will make tomorrow, then my choices

00:33:47.700 --> 00:33:49.980
seem to be fixed and necessary. And if they're

00:33:49.980 --> 00:33:51.940
fixed, I don't really have free will. And if

00:33:51.940 --> 00:33:53.880
you don't have free will, it's unjust for God

00:33:53.880 --> 00:33:55.960
to reward or punish you for your actions. It's

00:33:55.960 --> 00:33:58.680
a huge problem. So how does Boethius, through

00:33:58.680 --> 00:34:01.619
Lady Philosophy, solve it? He introduces a mind

00:34:01.619 --> 00:34:05.150
-bending concept, the eternal present. He argues

00:34:05.150 --> 00:34:07.009
that we are making a fundamental mistake when

00:34:07.009 --> 00:34:09.190
we think about God's knowledge. We are creatures

00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:11.889
who live in time. We experience life as a sequence,

00:34:12.150 --> 00:34:15.409
past, present, future. But God does not live

00:34:15.409 --> 00:34:18.190
in time. God lives in eternity. And eternity

00:34:18.190 --> 00:34:20.570
for Boethius isn't just a really, really long

00:34:20.570 --> 00:34:23.630
time. It is the state of possessing all of life

00:34:23.630 --> 00:34:26.590
all at once in a single, complete, and perfect

00:34:26.590 --> 00:34:29.250
moment. So God doesn't foresee the future? No.

00:34:29.670 --> 00:34:32.829
He sees it. He sees the past, the present, and

00:34:32.829 --> 00:34:35.130
the future all at once in a single, timeless

00:34:35.130 --> 00:34:38.769
glance. The analogy Boethius uses is of a man

00:34:38.769 --> 00:34:40.989
standing on a high mountain looking down at a

00:34:40.989 --> 00:34:43.429
road below. He sees a traveler coming, he sees

00:34:43.429 --> 00:34:45.010
the traveler at the midpoint, and he sees the

00:34:45.010 --> 00:34:47.309
traveler arriving at the end all in his single

00:34:47.309 --> 00:34:50.150
field of vision. His seeing the traveler arrive

00:34:50.150 --> 00:34:52.690
doesn't force the traveler to walk. He is simply

00:34:52.690 --> 00:34:55.630
an observer of a free act. God sees my future

00:34:55.630 --> 00:34:57.909
choice not as something that will happen, but

00:34:57.909 --> 00:35:00.099
as something that is happening. from his eternal

00:35:00.099 --> 00:35:02.440
perspective. Exactly. My choice remains free,

00:35:02.579 --> 00:35:06.300
but his knowledge remains perfect. It brilliantly

00:35:06.300 --> 00:35:09.380
saves both free will and God's omniscience. And

00:35:09.380 --> 00:35:11.219
this argument was picked up by Thomas Aquinas,

00:35:11.380 --> 00:35:14.219
by Dante, by C .S. Lewis. It became the standard

00:35:14.219 --> 00:35:16.199
Christian philosophical answer to the problem

00:35:16.199 --> 00:35:18.820
for more than a thousand years. So Boethius finishes

00:35:18.820 --> 00:35:21.780
his masterpiece. He has found his consolation,

00:35:21.780 --> 00:35:24.980
his peace, but he can't stop the clock. Which

00:35:24.980 --> 00:35:27.460
brings us to part seven, execution and legacy.

00:35:27.960 --> 00:35:31.360
The end came in the year 524 A .D., and it was

00:35:31.360 --> 00:35:33.380
horrific. Yeah, we should give a warning to our

00:35:33.380 --> 00:35:35.219
listeners. The historical accounts are extremely

00:35:35.219 --> 00:35:37.880
graphic. They are. The most common account says

00:35:37.880 --> 00:35:40.519
that the executioners tied a cord or a rope around

00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.219
his head, put a stick through it, and then twisted

00:35:43.219 --> 00:35:45.440
it like a pernique until the pressure forced

00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:47.980
his eyes to bulge out of their sockets. My God.

00:35:48.300 --> 00:35:51.280
And then, while he was in that state of unimaginable

00:35:51.280 --> 00:35:53.760
agony, they bludgeoned or clubbed him to death.

00:35:54.000 --> 00:35:56.559
It was a terror killing. It was designed to send

00:35:56.559 --> 00:35:59.500
a message to the rest of the Roman Senate. Don't

00:35:59.500 --> 00:36:02.400
cross me. It was, but it seems to have backfired.

00:36:02.659 --> 00:36:05.239
Theodoric himself died just two years later in

00:36:05.239 --> 00:36:08.159
526. And the legend that grew up around his death

00:36:08.159 --> 00:36:11.559
was that he died of guilt and terror. The historian

00:36:11.559 --> 00:36:13.739
Procopius tells a story that Theodoric was at

00:36:13.739 --> 00:36:16.960
dinner and a huge fish head was served on a platter.

00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.639
And Theodoric hallucinated that the fish head

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was the face of Symmachus. Boethius' father -in

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-law, who Theodoric also had executed shortly

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after Boethius. Yes. He saw Symmachus' face glaring

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at him, and the king went into a state of shock

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and died a few days later, consumed by remorse.

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Meanwhile, Boethius became an instant hero. An

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instant martyr. He was immediately venerated

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by the local church in Pavia as a Saint Severinus

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Boethius. His bones are buried in the crypt of

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the Church of San Pietro in Sildoro in Pavia.

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And St. Augustine's bones are buried in the main

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altar of the very same church. So you have the

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two great giants of the late antique Western

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mind resting together. It's incredibly fitting.

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And his book, The Consolation, it became a medieval

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bestseller for a millennium. It was the book

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after the Bible. King Alfred the Great translated

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it into Old English to educate his people. Geoffrey

00:37:09.639 --> 00:37:13.019
Chaucer translated it. Queen Elizabeth I translated

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it. It was the book that noblemen and women would

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read when they were thrown into the Tower of

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London. It was the ultimate prison literature.

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And Dante Alighieri places him in heaven in The

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Divine Comedy. He does. In the heaven of the

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sun, among the wise theologians and philosophers,

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Thomas Aquinas is the one who points him out

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and says, Now if thy mental eye thou turn to

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it. That sainted soul, which the world so darkly

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drove away, lays bare to him who will but listen

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well the world's deceit. What about his scientific

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and logical legacy? It survived. Because he translated

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those few key logic texts, the lights of reason

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stayed on in the monasteries of Europe. When

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the Vikings were raiding and civilization seemed

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to be ending, monks in isolated scriptoriums

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were reading Boethius to remember how to think

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clearly. He gave the Middle Ages its philosophical

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vocabulary. He defined words like person, substance,

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nature that became the building blocks for all

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of scholastic theology. He built the intellectual

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scaffolding for the next thousand years. There

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is even a crater on the moon named Boethius,

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which feels... Kind of perfect for the guy who

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wrote about the music of the spheres. It really

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does. He bridged the gap. He took the profound

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wisdom of the classical world, packed it into

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a kind of intellectual survival kit, and floated

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it across the dark waters of history so that

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it could reach us on the other side. So as we

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wrap up this deep dive, I want to leave our listener

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with a final provocative thought. And it comes

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from Boethius' definition of power. We live in

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a world that is obsessed with power, right? Political

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power, financial power, social media influence.

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It's what everyone seems to be chasing. Boethius,

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writing from that dungeon, argued that all of

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that is an illusion. It's fake power. He said

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the true power is only the ability to do good,

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to obtain the good. And if you are doing evil,

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you are not powerful. You are weak. You are failing

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at the one thing you actually want, which is

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true happiness. You are impotent. It completely

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redefines everything. The tyrant on his throne

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isn't the winner. He's the ultimate loser. The

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corrupt billionaire isn't successful. He's a

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failure. True power is the power to rule yourself,

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to maintain your own virtue, to keep your eyes

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fixed on the highest good, regardless of what

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the wheel of fortune is doing to your external

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circumstances. Wickedness is its own punishment.

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It's a thought that can fundamentally change

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how you navigate your own life, your own successes,

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and your own failures. Thank you for listening

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to The Deep Dive. We hope this journey into the

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mind of the last Roman was as consoling for you

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as it was for us. Keep thinking. And we'll see

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you on the next one.
