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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. I have to be honest

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with you, looking at the stack of research we

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have on the desk today, I am feeling a distinct

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sense of inadequacy. Oh, I know that feeling.

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Usually we tackle a subject that fits into a

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nice tidy category. You know, we do a history

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dive or a science dives or a music appreciation

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session. We stay in our lane. And today, the

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lane is gone. We are off -roading. We are completely

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off the map because if we tried to categorize

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today's subject, we'd be here all day just listing

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the labels. It's almost impossible. We're talking

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about a 12th century Benedictine nun. But if

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I just say nun, you picture someone praying quietly

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in a corner, and that is not this woman. Not

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even close, no. If you look at her CV, it reads

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like a fever dream of productivity. It's almost

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unbelievable. It really is. We are talking about

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a mystic visionary, a composer of music that

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is, I mean, still on the charts today. Which

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is wild to think about. It is. And then a philosopher,

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a medical writer, a practitioner of holistic

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medicine, a linguist who invented her own language

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just for the fun of it, and a poet. And a political

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consultant to the most powerful men in Europe.

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Let's not forget that. Exactly. I mean, she was

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a universal genius centuries before the Renaissance

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even gave us a term for it. We are talking, of

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course, about Hildegard of Bingen, the Sybil

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of the Rhine. And the mission for this deep dive

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is pretty specific. We want to understand how.

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How does a sickly 10th child who is literally

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locked into a stone cell at age eight become

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one of the loudest, most influential voices of

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the Middle Ages? And not just influential. And

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that's the mission part that intrigues me. Why

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is she influential now? Right. Why are techno

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DJs in Berlin sampling her chants? Why are feminist

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scholars dissecting her letters? Why are holistic

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healers selling Hildegard stones? It's true.

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She seems to be everywhere all of a sudden. She

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is this massive. multifaceted prism and everyone

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sees a different color when they look at her.

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So let's go back to the source of the light.

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We need to start with the origin story. And it

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really does feel like a superhero origin story,

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doesn't it? Starting with the tragic backstory.

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It really does. It's 1098. the very end of the

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11th century. Yeah, the First Crusade is kicking

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off. Europe is in the state of, you know, aggressive

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expansion and religious fervor. And in the Rhineland,

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in the service of the Count of Sponheim, a girl

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is born to a noble family. Hildebert and Mechtild

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are her parents. And immediately, we hit a concept

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in the sources that stopped me in my tracks.

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The tithe. It's a heavy concept. It's not something

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we really think about in human terms anymore.

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Most people know a tithe as, you know, 10 % of

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your paycheck you might put in the church offering

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plate. Yeah. But the sources suggest her parents

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tithed her. That's the tradition, yes. It's a

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fascinating window into the medieval noble mindset.

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The tradition holds that Hildegard was the 10th

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child. The 10th. And just as you owe God 10 %

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of your harvest or 10 % of your coin, these parents

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believe they owed God 10 % of their human output.

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Well, just hear God. We had 10. This one is yours.

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Essentially, yes. It was viewed as a pious act,

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a way to accrue spiritual capital for the family.

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It was a good look, so to speak. But there's

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a practical side to it, too, isn't there? Oh,

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absolutely. We have to be realistic about the

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economics of feudalism, too. Having 10 children

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is expensive. You have to split the inheritance

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for the sons. You have to find substantial dowries

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for the daughters. That's a huge financial burden.

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So sending a child to the church was also a way

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of balancing the family books? It was a career

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path and a financial relief valve. Though I should

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add a footnote here. Historians debate the 10th

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child claim. Yeah. We only have records for seven

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older siblings. So it's possible 10th was added

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later to make her sound more biblically significant,

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like a perfect offering. A bit of retroactive

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PR. You could say that. But whether she was the

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10th or the 8th, the result was the same. She

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was marked for the church from the cradle. And

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she wasn't exactly a prime candidate for strategic

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marriage anyway, was she? The sources are pretty

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clear on that. No. She was described as sickly

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from birth. She was frail. She had trouble walking.

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In a brutal physical world, she wouldn't have

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survived the rigors of running a castle or, you

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know, enduring 10 childbirths of her own. The

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convent was, in a way, a survival strategy. A

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safe harbor. A very specific kind of safe harbor,

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yes. But while her body was weak... Her mind

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was doing something. Yeah. Unexplained. She wrote

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about this much later when she was 77 years old,

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looking back. Yeah, in her autobiography. She

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said she started seeing things at age three.

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Three years old. Just imagine that. A toddler.

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She called it the shade of the living light,

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umbra viventis lucis. And I want to be really

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specific here because when we say visionary or

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mystic, I think we tend to picture someone having

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a seizure. or fasting until they hallucinate

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or dreaming. Right, the ecstatic state. You leave

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your body and God enters. That's the classic

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model. But that's not what she described. No,

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Hildegard was adamant that this was not what

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happened to her. She was very precise about it.

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She wrote, I do not hear them with my outward

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ears, nor do I perceive them by the thoughts

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of my own heart, but in my soul alone while my

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outward eyes are open. So she's sitting at the

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dinner table, fully awake, maybe holding a spoon,

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looking at her parents, and simultaneously she

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is seeing. An augmented reality. That's exactly

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how I think of it. It's an AR overlay on reality.

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She described a light that was brighter than

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a cloud carrying the sun. And within that light,

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she saw architectural forms, people. writing,

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symbols. It was a constant dual consciousness.

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He was living in two worlds at once. All the

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time. That sounds terrifying for a toddler. It

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was isolating. I mean, how could you explain

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that? There's a famous anecdote where, as a very

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young child, she looked at a pregnant cow and

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described the color of the calf inside the womb.

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No way. Yes. And her nurse was freaked out. Hildegard

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realized very quickly that other people didn't

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have this second sight, and she learned to shut

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up about it. She hid it. So she has this secret.

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She's sickly. She's tithed. And then comes the

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enclosure. This is the part of the story that

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gave me genuine claustrophobia reading about

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it. Oh, it's intense. She is sent away to Dizzy

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Bodenberg. A male monastery that had a small

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annex for women of frown clothes. And she is

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placed in the care of Jette von Sponheim. Who

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is Jette? Judah is a key figure. You can't understand

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Hildegard without understanding Judah. She was

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the daughter of a count, beautiful, wealthy,

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about six years older than Hildegard. And she

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decided to reject the world entirely. She chose

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to become an anchoress. We need to define anchoress

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because it's not just a nun. It's a whole other

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level. A whole other level. A nun lives in a

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community, works in the garden, serves the poor.

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An anchoress is an anchor. She is literally walled

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into a cell attached to the church for life.

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Literally walled in, like with bricks and mortar.

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Often, yes. There was a formal ceremony called

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the rite of enclosure. It was essentially a funeral

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service for a living person. Oh, my God. The

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bishop would read the office of the dead. The

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anchors would lie on a beer like a corpse. They

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would sprinkle dust on her and then they would

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walk her into the cell, lock the door and sometimes,

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yes, seal it with stone. She was dead to the

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world, alive only to God. An eight -year -old

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Hildegard goes into that cell with her. That's

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the setting. A hermitage. Just a stone room with

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one small window looking into the church so they

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could hear mass, and one window looking out to

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the world to receive food. For 30 years. Roughly,

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yes. From about 1112 to 1136. Just imagine the

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psychological pressure cooker of that. Two women,

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one a charismatic ascetic, one a sickly visionary

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child trapped in a stone box. But it wasn't just

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staring at the wall. This is where Hildegard

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gets her education. such as it was right judah

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taught her to read the psalter the book of psalms

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and this is crucial the psalms are the heartbeat

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of benedictine life they would recite them constantly

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constantly they recited all 150 psalms every

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single week so hildegard absorbed the rhythm

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the poetry the imagery of the psalms into her

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bones that's why her later writing sounds so

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biblical she was marinating in it for decades

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and she learned music yes judah taught her to

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play the psaltery a 10 stringed instrument sort

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of like a zither so in the In the darkness of

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that cell, there was language and there was music.

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Fast forward. It's 1136. Jida dies. The cell

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has actually grown into a small convent by this

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point because so many other women were inspired

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by Jida and wanted to join them. Right, the community

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had grown around them. And Hildegard, now in

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her late 30s, is elected magistra. She's the

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boss. She's in charge. But she's still hiding

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the big secret, the visions. She's only told

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Jida and a monk named Volmar about the full extent

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of them. Ah. Volmar. He's the third character

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in this early drama. He's her tutor, her secretary,

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her confessor. And her greatest cheerleader,

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her biggest supporter. He's the one who kept

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telling her, you aren't crazy, this is a gift

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from God. He believed her. He did, which was

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essential. But then comes the year 1141. Hildegard

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is 42. And the living light changes. It stops

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being a passive movie she watches and becomes

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an active command. This is the moment everything

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pivots. She receives a vision she describes as

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a stream of fire entering her brain, and a voice

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says, write down that which you see and hear.

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And her reaction is so relatable. It's not, yes,

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Lord, I've been waiting for this. It's panic.

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Absolute terror. She writes, I refuse to write.

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Not out of stubbornness, but out of humility

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and the doubt of unworthiness and the fear of

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gossip. The diversity of human words, as she

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put it. Exactly. She was terrified of being labeled

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a heretic, a woman writing theology, a woman

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claiming to speak for God. That's how you get

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investigated. That's how you get burned at the

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stake. So she resists. She says no. And then.

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and this is the pattern that defines her life

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the divine strike happens yes she falls physically

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ill and not just i have a headache she describes

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being paralyzed bedridden in agony. It's psychosomatic

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in the most extreme sense. Well, Hildegard would

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say the body and soul are completely connected.

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If the soul resists its God -given purpose, the

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body breaks. She explicitly attributed this illness

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to her disobedience. It was a battle of wills

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between her fear and Graz command. And the pain

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wins. Eventually, she can't take it anymore.

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She calls for Volmar. She calls for one of her

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nuns, a close friend named Richardus von Stade,

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and she says, okay, all right. And the moment

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she picks up the wax tablet to start dictating,

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She recovers. Just like that. Just like that,

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the illness lifts. And that brings us to section

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two, the visionary theology. Because she doesn't

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just write a diary. She writes civius. Civius,

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which means know the ways. It took 10 years to

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complete. It's a massive volume documenting 26

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major visions. But here's the problem. You can't

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just publish a book like that in 1147. You need

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a permit, right? You need the church to say,

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this is legit. Especially as a woman. If she

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had released this on her own, she would have

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been silenced immediately. Or worse. But providence,

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or maybe some clever maneuvering, intervened.

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Pope Eugenius III was nearby at a synod in Cher.

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This is the high -stakes moment. The abbot of

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Dissabodenburg, a man named Cuno, realizes, hey,

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this nun might be famous. This could be good

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for us. He sees an opportunity. He takes a chunk

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of the unfinished book to the pope. Picture the

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scene. A room full of cardinals, bishops, the

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pope himself, all men, all highly educated in

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formal dogma. And they are reviewing the wild,

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rambling, fiery writings of an uneducated nun

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from a backwater convent. It could have gone

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so wrong. So wrong, they could have declared

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it heresy on the spot. But the pope reads it.

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He has it read aloud to the entire assembly.

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And he is moved. He sends a letter back to Hildegard,

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giving her his apostolic blessing and commanding

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her to write more. That is the golden ticket.

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It changed everything. It gave her instant credence.

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She was no longer just some strange nun. She

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was a prophetess. She had the pope a seal of

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approval. That made her untouchable. So what's

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in the book? I've seen the illustrations from

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the Rupertsburg manuscript. Yeah. They are, well.

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Trippy is the only word that comes to mind. They

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are incredibly complex. She describes the universe,

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for instance, as a cosmic egg. A literal egg.

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Yes. An oval structure. The outer shell is bright

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fire. Then there's a layer of black fire. Then

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pure ether, watery air, and so on. It's a complete

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cosmology. She's trying to explain how the physical

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universe is held together by God's power, all

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visualized in this one image. And the art style,

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there are these strange, jagged lines, stars

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that look like fortifications or walls, figures

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with eyes all over their wings. It's very distinctive.

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Those specific visual details, the shimmering

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lights, the zigzag lines, the fortress shapes,

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led to a very famous modern theory about what

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was going on. Right. This is where the science

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comes in. Yes. In the 20th century, the neurologist

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Oliver Sacks analyzed her descriptions and the

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art. And he had a diagnosis. He proposed that

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Hildegard suffered from severe migraines with

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aura. For listeners who haven't experienced that.

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What exactly does an aura look like? It's a neurological

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event that can precede the headache. The visual

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cortex basically goes haywire. You see scottamata

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blind spots, you see shimmering lights, and you

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see fortification spectra expanding zigzag patterns

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that look exactly like the crenellated walls

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in Hildegard's drawings. Which tracks perfectly

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with her description of the living light. It

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matches the clinical description almost perfectly.

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Sachs argued that the sickness she battled her

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whole life, the illnesses that struck her down

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were likely these chronic debilitating migraines.

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Now, does that explain it away? Does that mean

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she wasn't a mystic, just a headache sufferer?

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No. And Sachs was very clear about this. And

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I agree with him. It explains the mechanism,

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not the meaning. That's a great distinction.

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Hildegard was a genius. She took these debilitating

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neurological events and interpreted them through

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the lens of her profound faith. She didn't just

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suffer. She built a cathedral out of her pain.

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To her, the aura was God speaking. That's a beautiful

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way to put it. She didn't stop at Sivius though.

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She wrote two more massive theological works.

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Right. Liber Vitae Meritorum, the Book of Life's

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Merits. This is where she gets into moral psychology.

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It's structured as this dramatic debate between

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the virtues and the vices. And this is where

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she helps invent purgatory. Or at least popularize

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it. She's one of the early architects of the

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concept as we know it. Before this, the astral

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life was a bit more binary. You know, heaven

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or hell. Hildegard describes a place of purging

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where souls work off their temporal debts before

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entering heaven. And her descriptions of the

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punishments are grotesque. Give us a taste. Well,

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if you were a liar in life, your soul might be

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punished by being gnawed on by toads and snakes

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for a while. If you were a seducer, you might

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find yourself standing in a lake of fire up to

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your loins. That is specific and vivid. It's

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medieval horror. But the point was pastoral.

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It was meant to scare people straight. And then

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her final great work, written in her 70s, Liber

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Divinorum Operum, the Book of Divine Works. This

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is the Grand Unified Theory. This is her masterpiece.

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She connects the microcosm and the macrocosm.

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The classic, as above, so below. Exactly. The

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human body, the microcosm, is a perfect mat of

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the universe, the macrocosm. The winds of the

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world correspond to our breath. The rivers correspond

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to our veins. The structure of the cosmos is

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mirrored in the structure of man. It's this beautiful

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holistic view where physics and theology are

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the same thing. They are completely intertwined.

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There is no separation. It's amazing to think

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of her in her 70s, still trying to solve the

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riddle of the universe. But she wasn't just a

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writer locked in her room. She was a politician.

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And section three of our outline is titled The

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Politician and the Founder. Because this is where

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Hildegard stops being polite. I'm not sure she

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was ever very polite, to be honest. But yes,

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this is where she fights for her independence.

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Okay, so she's at Dissabodenburg. She's famous

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now. Pilgrims are coming to see the visionary.

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The monastery is making money off her fame and

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the donations. Right. She's a major asset. And

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she decides she wants to move. She wants to take

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her grand community of nuns and found a new independent

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convent at a place called Rupertsburg. Why? I

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mean, Disabodenburg was established. It was comfortable.

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Rupertsburg was a ruin on a hill. It was about

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autonomy. At Disabodenburg, she was under the

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thumb of the abbot. The monks controlled the

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finances, the property, and the sacramental life

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of the nuns. Hildegard wanted a space where women

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were self -governing. She wanted to be the abbess

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in truth, not just in title. But Abbot Kuno wasn't

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going to let his golden goose fly the coop. No,

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he refused. He said, absolutely not. You stay

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here. He probably didn't want to lose the prestige

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or, more importantly, the income. And this is

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where we see Hildegard the tactician. She doesn't

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just write a letter of complaint. She invokes

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the divine strike again. She falls ill. But this

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time, the description is frightening. Her biographer

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writes that she became paralyzed and so heavy

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that she could not be lifted from her bed. Supernaturally

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heavy. Is that the claim? That's the claim. The

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abbot tries to physically move her or have her

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moved and she is like lead. She is immovable.

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She claims that God is pinning her down until

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the abbot relents and lets her community go.

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It's a standoff. The immovable nun versus the

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greedy abbot. And the nun wins. The abbot realizes

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he looks terrible. The people are on her side.

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The pope is on her side. And apparently gravity

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is on her side. He caves. He gives in. So in

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1150, she moves to Rupertsburg. She oversees

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the construction. She secures property rights.

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She proves she's a CEO as well as a mystic. Absolutely.

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And once she has her own base of power, she starts

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to project that power outwardly. She undertakes

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preaching tours. We have to pause on how wild

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this is. St. Paul said, I do not permit a woman

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to teach. For centuries, women were not allowed

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to preach in public. It was strictly forbidden.

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But Hildegard went on four major tours up and

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down the Rhine. She spoke in cathedrals, in public

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squares, to huge crowds of clergy and laity,

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an old nun traveling by boat and cart, commanding

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the attention of the entire region. And she wasn't

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giving nice, gentle homilies about love and forgiveness.

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Oh, no. She was roasting them. She attacked the

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clergy for corruption. She attacked simony, the

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buying and selling of church offices. She called

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the priest. dogs who do not bark. Dogs who do

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not bark. That is a savage insult. A watchdog

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that doesn't warn of danger. It is. She told

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them, you are failing God. You are corrupt. So

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God has sent me a weak, poor woman to tell you

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how to do your job. That weak woman rhetoric

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again. So clever. It was her shield. She called

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herself a poor little female figure. By constantly

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emphasizing her own weakness, she made the argument

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that her strength must be supernatural. If a

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man spoke like that, it would be arrogance. If

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a weak woman spoke like that, it was a miracle.

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It's brilliant reverse psychology. And she used

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it on emperors, too. She wrote to Frederick Barbarossa.

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The Holy Roman Emperor. The most powerful man

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in the Christian world. They were friends, or

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at least correspondents for a while. But when

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he supported a rival, Pope and anti -Pope Hildegard

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turned on him. Did she send a polite letter of

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disagreement? No. She wrote a letter that essentially

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said, you are acting like a madman and a child.

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Watch out because the king of kings is watching

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you and he will crush you. She threatened the

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emperor with God's wrath to his face. And she

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survived. Anyone else would have been executed

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for treason. But Hildegard was too respected.

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She had too much moral authority. Barbarossa

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didn't dare touch her. But she wasn't entirely

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invincible. Section three ends with the excommunication

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crisis. And this happens at the very end of her

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life. She's 80 years old. It's her final battle.

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A nobleman who had been a benefactor to the convent

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died. Hildegard allowed him to be buried in the

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convent cemetery. Standard procedure, right?

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Except the clergy in Mainz, the big city nearby,

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claimed this guy had been excommunicated before

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he died. Therefore, his body was unclean. They

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ordered Hildegard to dig him up and throw his

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body out of consecrated ground. It is gruesome.

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What does she do? She refused. She insisted he

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had reconciled with the church before death.

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She refused to violate the sanctity of his grave.

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In fact, she went out to the cemetery with her

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staff and erased all the grave markings so the

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men from Mainz couldn't find the body to dig

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it up themselves. An 80 -year -old nun playing

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a shell game with a corpse to protect a man's

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soul. That is punk rock. The clergy's were furious,

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absolutely livid. They placed her entire convent

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under interdict. Explain what that means for

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the nuns. What are the consequences? It's a collective

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punishment. It's a lockdown. No mass could be

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said. No sacraments could be administered. And

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crucially for Hildegard, no music. They were

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forbidden to sing the divine office. Silence.

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For a community that believed singing was the

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language of angels, that must have been a form

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of torture. It was devastating, but she didn't

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fold. She wrote a blistering letter to the prelates

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of Mainz. She argued that music is the highest

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form of praise. It's the harmony of heaven. And

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by silencing her nuns, they were the ones doing

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the devil's work. She completely flipped the

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script on them. She warned them that God would

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judge them for silencing his praise. And eventually,

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after months of this, they blinked. The interdict

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was lifted in March 1179. She died six months

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later. She won her final fight. Speaking of the

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silence being torture, let's talk about the noise

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she made. Section 4. The composer. Because this

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is probably how most people know her today, even

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if they don't know they know her. She's the most

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recorded medieval composer in history, by a wide

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margin. If you type medieval music into Spotify,

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Hildegard is the first thing you see. What makes

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her music so distinctive? To my untrained ear,

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chant is chant. It's monks humming in unison.

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Standard Gregorian chant is very restrained.

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It's beautiful. but it's functional it moves

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in small steps up a note down a note it stays

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within a pretty narrow melodic range it's meant

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to be calming not exciting exactly hildegard's

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music which she collected in a cycle called symphonia

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is ecstatic it's emotional how so what does that

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sound like the range first of all her melodies

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swoop from the very bottom of the register to

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the very top sometimes over two octaves it's

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incredibly athletic and demanding for the singers

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and it's melismatic Define melismatic for us.

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So syllabic singing is one note per syllable.

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Think twinkle, twinkle little star. Melismatic

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singing is when you take one vowel like the O

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in Gloria and you sing 30, 40, 50 notes on that

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one single sound. So it's like a jazz run or

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a diva moment in a pop song. That's a great modern

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analogy. It creates this feeling of timelessness,

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of floating, of divine inspiration just pouring

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out. It's meant to induce a trance state, to

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lift you out of the ordinary. And she wrote the

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lyrics to the poetry. Yes, and the lyrics are

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just incredible. Feather on the breath of God,

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the blood of the rose that blossoms in the thorn.

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It's rich, sensory, almost psychedelic imagery.

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She also wrote what is arguably the first opera,

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the Ordo Virtutum. The play of the virtues. It's

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a musical drama, a morality play. That's the

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plot. It's an allegory. The main character is

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Anima the soul. She is struggling. She is tempted

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by the world but wants to reach heaven. She is

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surrounded by the virtues personified as women

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like humility, charity, chastity, and she is

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stalked by the devil. And there is a fascinating

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theological detail in how the music works in

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this play. This is one of those things that just

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makes you go, whoa. This is my favorite aha moment

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in all of Hildegard's work. In the play, the

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soul sings, the virtues sing in beautiful, harmonious

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planchon, but the devil. He does not sing. You

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can't carry a tune. Is that it? He is incapable

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of music. In the manuscript, his lines are written

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without any musical notation. The instructions

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say he must shout, grunt, or speak discordantly.

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Why? What's the theology there? Because for Hildegard,

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music is divine harmony. it is the order of the

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cosmos it is the echo of god's voice from before

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the fall the devil is the spirit of discord of

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chaos of separation by rebelling against god

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he lost the ability to harmonize he is purely

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noise that is profound to be evil is to be unmusical

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to be without harmony exactly and practically

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it must have been quite a scene in the convent

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you have the nuns dressed in beautiful robes

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singing like angels and then volmar the poor

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monk playing the devil just stand standing there

00:24:52.109 --> 00:24:54.130
shouting and grunting at them. It brings the

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theology to life in a way a sermon never could.

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But Hildegard wasn't just concerned with the

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soul's harmony. She was concerned with the body's

00:25:01.589 --> 00:25:04.869
harmony, too. Which takes us to Section 5, The

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Scientist and Healer. This is the side of her

00:25:07.150 --> 00:25:09.049
that gets you into the health food store. She

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wrote two major scientific texts, Physica, which

00:25:12.230 --> 00:25:14.930
is a book of natural history, and Causae Cure,

00:25:15.049 --> 00:25:18.750
or Causes and Cures. Where did she learn medicine?

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Was she reading Galen and the Greek texts? She

00:25:21.869 --> 00:25:24.410
read some Latin texts, sure. She was well -read.

00:25:24.690 --> 00:25:26.970
But mostly she learned in the garden and the

00:25:26.970 --> 00:25:29.690
infirmary. Monasteries were the hospitals of

00:25:29.690 --> 00:25:32.410
the Middle Ages. The nuns grew the herbs. They

00:25:32.410 --> 00:25:34.450
treated the sick locals who came to the door.

00:25:35.069 --> 00:25:37.430
Hildegard was a practitioner. She had dirt under

00:25:37.430 --> 00:25:39.970
her fingernails. And there's a central concept

00:25:39.970 --> 00:25:43.870
here that ties everything together for her. Viriditas.

00:25:43.870 --> 00:25:46.410
Viriditas. It's one of her favorite words. It's

00:25:46.410 --> 00:25:48.650
a Latin term that is really hard to translate

00:25:48.650 --> 00:25:52.109
perfectly. It means greenness, greening power,

00:25:52.430 --> 00:25:56.269
vitality. It sounds like virility mixed with

00:25:56.269 --> 00:25:59.609
verdant. That's exactly the root. To Hildegard,

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viriditas is the life force that comes from God.

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It flows through nature, making plants green

00:26:03.990 --> 00:26:06.430
and moist and alive, and it flows through humans.

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If you are healthy, you are green and moist.

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If you are sick or sinful or melancholic, you

00:26:11.930 --> 00:26:14.569
are dried out. You are withered. So health is

00:26:14.569 --> 00:26:16.569
essentially a kind of spiritual hydration and

00:26:16.569 --> 00:26:19.230
photosynthesis. In a spiritual sense, yes. She

00:26:19.230 --> 00:26:21.069
saw a direct link between the health of the soul

00:26:21.069 --> 00:26:23.450
and the health of the body. Sin dries you out.

00:26:23.630 --> 00:26:26.069
Grace makes you green again. She categorized

00:26:26.069 --> 00:26:30.039
everything. Plants, stones, animals. And she

00:26:30.039 --> 00:26:32.119
had some specific theories. She used the humoral

00:26:32.119 --> 00:26:33.859
theory, right? That was the standard model. That

00:26:33.859 --> 00:26:36.059
was the standard science of the day. The body

00:26:36.059 --> 00:26:39.740
has four humors. Blood, phlegm, yellow bile,

00:26:39.859 --> 00:26:42.619
black bile. Sickness is caused by an imbalance.

00:26:42.839 --> 00:26:45.380
You need to keep them balanced. Hildegard accepted

00:26:45.380 --> 00:26:48.250
this. But she gave it a biblical twist. Of course

00:26:48.250 --> 00:26:50.170
she did. Everything gets a biblical twist. She

00:26:50.170 --> 00:26:52.069
said that Adam and Eve were perfectly balanced

00:26:52.069 --> 00:26:55.029
in Eden. They had healthy bodily fluids. But

00:26:55.029 --> 00:26:57.730
the fall of man threw the humors out of whack.

00:26:57.970 --> 00:27:00.650
It turned those healthy fluids into poisonous

00:27:00.650 --> 00:27:03.890
phlegmata. So disease is literally a result of

00:27:03.890 --> 00:27:06.130
original sin. But she also had some surprisingly

00:27:06.130 --> 00:27:09.339
practical cures. let's talk about beer this is

00:27:09.339 --> 00:27:11.500
her claim to fame in the brewing world she is

00:27:11.500 --> 00:27:13.700
credited with the first written reference to

00:27:13.700 --> 00:27:16.380
using hops in beer as a preservative before that

00:27:16.380 --> 00:27:18.539
what was in beer a mixture of herbs called groot

00:27:19.119 --> 00:27:21.420
But it spoiled quickly. Hildegard noted that

00:27:21.420 --> 00:27:23.759
the bitterness of hops stopped putrefaction.

00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:26.640
It made the beer last longer. So in a way, she

00:27:26.640 --> 00:27:29.299
helped invent the IPA. I've seen Hildegard, patron

00:27:29.299 --> 00:27:31.920
saint of craft breweries. I love it. She also

00:27:31.920 --> 00:27:34.759
recommended boiling river water before drinking

00:27:34.759 --> 00:27:37.079
it. She didn't know about bacteria, obviously.

00:27:37.359 --> 00:27:41.259
She had no concept of germ theory. But she observed

00:27:41.259 --> 00:27:44.460
that people who drank raw water got sick, and

00:27:44.460 --> 00:27:47.250
people who drank boiled water... didn't that

00:27:47.250 --> 00:27:50.589
simple observation probably saved thousands of

00:27:50.589 --> 00:27:53.230
lives in her care but not all her advice was

00:27:53.230 --> 00:27:56.230
great by modern standards she was big on bloodletting

00:27:56.230 --> 00:27:58.769
oh yeah Bloodletting was the aspirin of the Middle

00:27:58.769 --> 00:28:01.750
Ages. Everyone did it for everything. But Hildegard,

00:28:01.829 --> 00:28:04.750
being Hildegard, was meticulous about it. She

00:28:04.750 --> 00:28:06.950
said you have to look at the moon phases. You

00:28:06.950 --> 00:28:09.390
should only bleed during a waning moon when the

00:28:09.390 --> 00:28:11.869
humors are less agitated. And she had a very

00:28:11.869 --> 00:28:14.549
specific unit of measurement for how much blood

00:28:14.549 --> 00:28:16.250
to take. This one grossed me out when I first

00:28:16.250 --> 00:28:18.470
read it. Me too. She said to take the amount

00:28:18.470 --> 00:28:21.369
that a thirsty person can swallow in one gulp.

00:28:21.849 --> 00:28:24.809
That is such a visceral, horrifying unit of measurement.

00:28:24.910 --> 00:28:27.490
But also, you know exactly what she means. It

00:28:27.490 --> 00:28:30.009
is. But it's practical. It's brilliant in its

00:28:30.009 --> 00:28:32.329
own way. Everyone knows what a gulp looks like.

00:28:32.349 --> 00:28:34.230
It's better than saying 50 milliliters when you

00:28:34.230 --> 00:28:37.109
don't have a beaker. It's folk science. It shows

00:28:37.109 --> 00:28:39.029
her mind at work. She's trying to standardize

00:28:39.029 --> 00:28:41.650
medicine. She's trying to find order in chaos.

00:28:42.349 --> 00:28:45.609
Which brings us to section six, the linguist.

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Because apparently, writing theology, composing

00:28:49.009 --> 00:28:51.730
music, running two convents, or curing the sick

00:28:51.730 --> 00:28:54.730
wasn't enough. She had to invent a language.

00:28:55.130 --> 00:28:57.930
The lingua ignota, the unknown language. Why?

00:28:58.009 --> 00:29:00.869
Just why? What was the point? That is the million

00:29:00.869 --> 00:29:02.769
-dollar question that scholars are still arguing

00:29:02.769 --> 00:29:05.269
about. We have a glossary of about a thousand

00:29:05.269 --> 00:29:09.009
words she invented, and an alphabet of 23 strange

00:29:09.009 --> 00:29:12.029
-looking letters called literae ignotae. Give

00:29:12.029 --> 00:29:13.769
us some examples. What does it sound like? God

00:29:13.769 --> 00:29:21.130
is Agon's. It sounds a bit like a mashup of Latin

00:29:21.130 --> 00:29:23.309
and German with a lot of Zs thrown in. It has

00:29:23.309 --> 00:29:25.369
a phone aesthetic quality. It sounds mysterious

00:29:25.369 --> 00:29:27.869
and ancient. But the purpose is debated. Theory

00:29:27.869 --> 00:29:30.490
one, it was a secret code. Right. A way for the

00:29:30.490 --> 00:29:32.130
nuns to talk to each other without the monks

00:29:32.130 --> 00:29:34.430
or visitors understanding. A clubhouse language

00:29:34.430 --> 00:29:37.089
to build solidarity and a sense of special identity.

00:29:37.490 --> 00:29:39.829
Like Twinspeak, but for a whole convent. I can

00:29:39.829 --> 00:29:42.599
see that. Exactly. But theory too is deeper.

00:29:42.920 --> 00:29:45.380
Scholar Sarah Higley suggests it was a theological

00:29:45.380 --> 00:29:48.420
project. Hildegard believed the world was fallen.

00:29:48.720 --> 00:29:51.220
Maybe she believed human language was fallen

00:29:51.220 --> 00:29:54.819
too imprecise, dirty, corrupted. Maybe she was

00:29:54.819 --> 00:29:57.180
trying to create a pristine language, a language

00:29:57.180 --> 00:30:00.339
fit for angels, to describe divine things without

00:30:00.339 --> 00:30:03.259
the baggage of everyday Latin or German. So it

00:30:03.259 --> 00:30:05.740
wasn't just a game. It was an attempt to fix

00:30:05.740 --> 00:30:08.319
the Tower of Babel on a small scale. Possibly.

00:30:08.359 --> 00:30:11.079
Today, she's considered a pioneer of conlangs

00:30:11.079 --> 00:30:13.500
-constructed languages. She's the spiritual grandmother

00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:16.119
of J .R .R. Tolkien's Elvish and the Klingon

00:30:16.119 --> 00:30:18.299
language. She really did do everything. It's

00:30:18.299 --> 00:30:20.200
staggering. But we have to remember, beneath

00:30:20.200 --> 00:30:23.259
the genius, she was a human being. And Section

00:30:23.259 --> 00:30:25.880
7 brings us to the personal side, the emotional

00:30:25.880 --> 00:30:28.119
vulnerability. You can't talk about Hildegard

00:30:28.119 --> 00:30:29.799
without talking about Richard Esfand's state.

00:30:30.079 --> 00:30:32.380
Richards was the nun who helped her write Sivius.

00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:34.980
Her secretary. She was much younger, a noble

00:30:34.980 --> 00:30:37.440
woman. She was Hildegard's assistant, her secretary,

00:30:37.700 --> 00:30:40.000
her confidant, her protege. They worked side

00:30:40.000 --> 00:30:42.380
by side for 10 years. Hildegard called her the

00:30:42.380 --> 00:30:44.460
light of my eyes. But then politics intervened,

00:30:44.460 --> 00:30:47.920
as it always does. In 1151, Richardus' powerful

00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:50.819
family arranged a promotion for her. She was

00:30:50.819 --> 00:30:53.019
elected abbess of a different, more prestigious

00:30:53.019 --> 00:30:55.500
convent. It meant she had to leave Rupertsburg.

00:30:55.660 --> 00:30:57.720
And Hildegard did not handle this well. She had

00:30:57.720 --> 00:31:01.180
a meltdown. A complete and total meltdown. She

00:31:01.180 --> 00:31:03.599
wrote desperate letters. She wrote to Richardus'

00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:06.339
mother, begging her to intervene. She wrote to

00:31:06.339 --> 00:31:08.980
the Pope, claiming the move was not God's will.

00:31:09.220 --> 00:31:11.880
She used the God card again. But it sounds different

00:31:11.880 --> 00:31:14.339
this time. It does. It feels less like a prophet

00:31:14.339 --> 00:31:16.700
speaking from on high and more like a heartbroken

00:31:16.700 --> 00:31:18.599
woman trying to keep her dearest friend from

00:31:18.599 --> 00:31:21.299
leaving. It feels intensely personal. Did it

00:31:21.299 --> 00:31:24.339
work? No. The Pope ordered Richardus to go to

00:31:24.339 --> 00:31:27.559
her new post. She left. And then... The tragedy.

00:31:27.980 --> 00:31:30.579
One year later, Richardus died suddenly. Oh,

00:31:30.660 --> 00:31:33.099
that is just gut -wrenching. After all that.

00:31:33.319 --> 00:31:35.579
It crushed Hildegard. We have a letter she wrote

00:31:35.579 --> 00:31:37.900
to Richardus' brother after her death. It is

00:31:37.900 --> 00:31:41.359
full of raw, unfiltered grief. She writes, I

00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.880
loved the nobility of her conduct, and I loved

00:31:43.880 --> 00:31:46.039
her. And this has led to some modern interpretation.

00:31:46.839 --> 00:31:48.880
Queer medieval scholars look at this relationship

00:31:48.880 --> 00:31:51.799
and see something significant. It is significant.

00:31:52.200 --> 00:31:54.680
Now, we have to be careful not to just slap a

00:31:54.680 --> 00:31:57.460
21st century label like lesbian on a 12th century

00:31:57.460 --> 00:32:00.339
nun. Identity and relationships worked very differently

00:32:00.339 --> 00:32:02.519
then. Of course. But the emotional intensity,

00:32:02.819 --> 00:32:05.799
the language of divine love she used, the physical

00:32:05.799 --> 00:32:08.740
distress at the separation, it clearly fits within

00:32:08.740 --> 00:32:11.480
a queer reading of history. Whether it was sexual

00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:14.500
or not is almost beside the point. It was a profound

00:32:14.500 --> 00:32:17.359
romantic same -sex bond that defined her emotional

00:32:17.359 --> 00:32:20.099
life. It humanizes her. She wasn't a stone statue

00:32:20.099 --> 00:32:23.299
of a saint. She loved deeply, and she lost deeply.

00:32:23.759 --> 00:32:25.640
There's also some discussion about her art in

00:32:25.640 --> 00:32:27.380
this context, right? Right. If you look at the

00:32:27.380 --> 00:32:29.720
Sivius Illuminations, particularly the way she

00:32:29.720 --> 00:32:32.640
depicts the side wound of Christ, well, it's

00:32:32.640 --> 00:32:35.160
a diamond shape. It's often red. To a modern

00:32:35.160 --> 00:32:37.240
eye, it looks very ionic. It looks like a vulva.

00:32:37.339 --> 00:32:40.000
Is that intentional? Or is that just us projecting

00:32:40.000 --> 00:32:42.400
modern sensibilities onto it? It's probably a

00:32:42.400 --> 00:32:45.309
bit of both. Formally, it's likely a mandorla

00:32:45.309 --> 00:32:48.029
in almond shape used in medieval art to signify

00:32:48.029 --> 00:32:51.269
holiness. But Hildegard's theology was radically

00:32:51.269 --> 00:32:53.730
feminine. She talked about God as a mother. She

00:32:53.730 --> 00:32:56.230
talked about the church as a bride. She saw the

00:32:56.230 --> 00:32:58.750
feminine as a source of divine creative power.

00:32:59.009 --> 00:33:02.690
So using imagery that evokes birth and life makes

00:33:02.690 --> 00:33:05.349
perfect sense in her theological system. It just

00:33:05.349 --> 00:33:07.650
adds another layer to her complexity. So we come

00:33:07.650 --> 00:33:11.529
to section eight, the legacy. She died in 1179.

00:33:12.259 --> 00:33:14.740
The Chronicles say two rainbows crossed in the

00:33:14.740 --> 00:33:17.000
sky when she took her last breath. A fitting

00:33:17.000 --> 00:33:19.740
end, don't you think? It really is. But she wasn't

00:33:19.740 --> 00:33:22.400
officially a saint for a long, long time. This

00:33:22.400 --> 00:33:25.579
is a classic case of Vatican red tape. The canonization

00:33:25.579 --> 00:33:28.039
process started almost immediately, but documents

00:33:28.039 --> 00:33:30.700
got lost, committees dragged their feet, the

00:33:30.700 --> 00:33:33.000
Reformation happened and threw everything into

00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:35.960
chaos. For centuries, she was a saint by popular

00:33:35.960 --> 00:33:37.920
tradition, but not on the official list. When

00:33:37.920 --> 00:33:40.890
did it finally happen? Not until May 2012. Pope

00:33:40.890 --> 00:33:43.690
Benedict VI finally used a process called equivalent

00:33:43.690 --> 00:33:46.150
canonization to basically say, look, everyone

00:33:46.150 --> 00:33:48.329
has treated her as a saint for 800 years. Let's

00:33:48.329 --> 00:33:50.250
just make it official. And then he gave her an

00:33:50.250 --> 00:33:53.549
even rarer title a few months later, Doctor of

00:33:53.549 --> 00:33:56.309
the Church. That is a huge deal. There are only

00:33:56.309 --> 00:33:59.150
about 37 doctors of the church in all of history.

00:33:59.710 --> 00:34:02.509
You're talking Augustine, Aquinas, Teresa of

00:34:02.509 --> 00:34:04.990
Avila. It means your teachings are considered

00:34:04.990 --> 00:34:07.950
universally important and orthodox. It's the

00:34:07.950 --> 00:34:10.730
hall of fame of theology. For a woman who called

00:34:10.730 --> 00:34:14.349
herself unlearned, that is the ultimate vindication.

00:34:14.489 --> 00:34:16.829
Absolutely. But her legacy isn't just in the

00:34:16.829 --> 00:34:18.730
church. As you said earlier, it's in the club.

00:34:18.909 --> 00:34:21.210
This is my favorite part of the story, the pop

00:34:21.210 --> 00:34:24.070
culture revival. It started in the 80s and 90s

00:34:24.070 --> 00:34:26.929
with the chant craze, but then electronic artists

00:34:26.929 --> 00:34:30.070
found her. The British band Orbital sampled her

00:34:30.070 --> 00:34:32.829
track O Eucharist for their classic ambient song

00:34:32.829 --> 00:34:35.269
Belfast. I listened to that track this morning.

00:34:35.309 --> 00:34:38.170
It works so well. It works perfectly. Her music

00:34:38.170 --> 00:34:40.789
is floating, timeless, unmoored from a strict

00:34:40.789 --> 00:34:43.710
rhythm. It fits ambient techno like a glove.

00:34:43.949 --> 00:34:46.610
The artist Grime cites her as a major influence.

00:34:46.889 --> 00:34:49.809
The artist Lingua Ignota took her name from Hildegard's

00:34:49.809 --> 00:34:52.329
language. She is the patron saint of the avant

00:34:52.329 --> 00:34:54.989
-garde. And the New Age movement loves her. Oh,

00:34:55.030 --> 00:34:57.550
of course. The crystals, the herbs, the healing

00:34:57.550 --> 00:35:00.710
stones, the green power. She fits perfectly into

00:35:00.710 --> 00:35:03.070
the holistic wellness trend. And there's even

00:35:03.070 --> 00:35:04.909
a reincarnation theory. You have to tell me about

00:35:04.909 --> 00:35:07.090
this. Rudolf Steiner, the mystic philosopher.

00:35:07.329 --> 00:35:10.610
In 1924, he claimed that a Russian philosopher

00:35:10.610 --> 00:35:13.650
named Vladimir Soloviev was the reincarnation

00:35:13.650 --> 00:35:16.269
of a nun who fit Hildegard's description perfectly.

00:35:16.610 --> 00:35:19.150
Sure. Why not? At this point, she is everything

00:35:19.150 --> 00:35:21.750
to everyone. That's a thing. She is a mirror.

00:35:22.639 --> 00:35:25.880
Feminists see a feminist icon who broke the patriarchy.

00:35:26.260 --> 00:35:29.199
Catholics see a doctor of the church. Musicians

00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:32.780
see a compositional genius. Healers see a pioneer

00:35:32.780 --> 00:35:35.860
of holistic medicine. She's big enough to hold

00:35:35.860 --> 00:35:38.900
all of it. So let's wrap this up. We've covered

00:35:38.900 --> 00:35:41.320
the mystic, the politician, the artist, the scientist.

00:35:41.639 --> 00:35:44.539
What is the final takeaway? What is the thread

00:35:44.539 --> 00:35:47.670
that ties the 12th century to the 21st? For me,

00:35:47.690 --> 00:35:49.989
the keyword is connection. Hildegard didn't believe

00:35:49.989 --> 00:35:52.309
in boxes. She didn't see music and medicine and

00:35:52.309 --> 00:35:54.909
theology and botany as separate subjects. She

00:35:54.909 --> 00:35:56.710
saw them as different languages for describing

00:35:56.710 --> 00:36:00.130
the same divine truth. The cosmic egg. It all

00:36:00.130 --> 00:36:02.980
fits together. Exactly. The mathematical interval

00:36:02.980 --> 00:36:05.760
in a song is the orbital mechanics of the stars,

00:36:05.800 --> 00:36:08.239
is the balance of humors in the blood. It's all

00:36:08.239 --> 00:36:11.619
one interconnected web. We live in an age of

00:36:11.619 --> 00:36:14.659
hyper -specialization. You are a biologist or

00:36:14.659 --> 00:36:17.400
a poet. You're a data scientist or a musician.

00:36:18.719 --> 00:36:21.280
Hildegard challenges us to see the whole picture.

00:36:21.519 --> 00:36:24.320
And that concept of viriditas, that greening

00:36:24.320 --> 00:36:27.550
power. feels incredibly urgent right now, doesn't

00:36:27.550 --> 00:36:29.889
it? We are facing a climate crisis. We are facing

00:36:29.889 --> 00:36:33.210
epidemic levels of burnout. The idea that we

00:36:33.210 --> 00:36:36.150
need to tend to the garden, both the planet and

00:36:36.150 --> 00:36:39.030
our own bodies and souls, is a powerful message.

00:36:39.349 --> 00:36:41.449
She believed the world and the body were a garden

00:36:41.449 --> 00:36:43.570
that needed tending. If she were alive today,

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I don't think she'd be locked away in a convent.

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I think she'd be a climate scientist, a protester,

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and an experimental musician all at once. And

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she'd probably be sending very angry, prophetically

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worded emails to world leaders. Oh, absolutely.

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She'd be in their DMs telling them they are madmen

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if they don't fix the climate. And honestly,

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knowing her track record, they might just listen.

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That is Hildegard of Bingen, a medieval powerhouse

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who is somehow 800 years later still ahead of

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her time. Thank you for listening to this deep

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dive. Go listen to some of her music, maybe the

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remix, maybe the original drink and IPA in her

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honor, and find your own greening power. Sticky

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Curious. See you next time.
