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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are doing

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something a little different. We are setting

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the time machine back a good long way. We're

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heading to the 14th century. A fascinating and

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I would say an incredibly turbulent time. It's

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a period that feels almost alien to us now. Absolutely.

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It feels like a different planet. And we are

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focusing on a man who has this incredibly poetic,

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almost cinematic nickname. History remembers

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him as the morning star of the English Reformation.

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Stella Matutina. The Morning Star. Exactly. John

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Wycliffe. Now, usually when people think of the

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Reformation, you know, breaking away from the

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Pope, translating the Bible, shaking up the church

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hierarchy, they think of Martin Luther, right?

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Oh, absolutely. They think of the 1500s, the

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hammering on the door in Wittenberg. They do.

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Luther is the headline act for most people. He's

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the rock star of the movement. But our mission

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today is to unpack how this Oxford professor,

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nearly two centuries before Luther, was already

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doing all of that. He was the prototype. He really

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was. He was challenging the pope, was taking

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off the friars, and he was fundamentally redefining

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what authority meant in the Middle Ages. You

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can't really understand the explosion of the

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Protestant Reformation without understanding

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the fuse that Wycliffe lit in the 1300s. I mean,

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he built the intellectual scaffolding that everyone

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else climbed on later. And what I love about

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this deep dive is that we're going to separate

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the man from the myth because there is a lot

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of myth. I mean, the Wycliffe Bible is famous.

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It's iconic. But as we look through the source

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material, there's this massive aha moment waiting

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for us regarding that book. It's a bit of a shock

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for people. Yeah. Modern scholarship suggests

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that while it bears his name, Wycliffe himself

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might not have translated much of it or perhaps

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any of it personally. Which is wild. It's like

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finding out Steve Jobs didn't actually solder

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the chips in the first iPhone. That is a very

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apt analogy. He was the architect, the driving

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force, the inspiration. But the hands on work.

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That's a much more complex story involving a

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team of people. So we have a stack of sources

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here. His biography, historical accounts, and

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his own heavy -hitting writings like De Civili

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Dominio and De Veritate Sacrae Scripturae. We

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are going to dig into the mind of this guy. Yeah,

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let's do it. But before we get to the man, we

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have to set the scene. Because the world Wycliffe

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lived in was, well, it was falling apart. Crisis

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is almost too late a word. If you look at the

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14th century in England, it is apocalyptic. You

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have to put yourself in the mindset of someone

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living then. We're talking about the Black Death,

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primarily. The Black Death. Wycliffe is at Oxford

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University around 1345. He's a young, promising

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scholar. Then the plague hits England in the

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summer of 1348. I can't even imagine being a

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student in that environment. Oxford is a tight

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-knit community, crowded halls, shared meals.

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It must have been a petri dish. It was devastating.

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We're talking about a mortality rate that wiped

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out perhaps a third to half of the population

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in some areas. That's almost impossible to comprehend.

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So for Wycliffe, this isn't just an abstract

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problem. He's living through it. Oh, he's in

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the middle of it. And for him, it wasn't just

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a health crisis. It was a theological crisis.

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It shaped his entire worldview. Sources tell

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us he developed a very gloomy view of humanity

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in the future. Gloomy seems like an understatement.

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If half my neighborhood died in a year, I'd probably

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be a bit pessimistic, too. He actually believed

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the world was going to end at the close of the

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14th century. He thought he was living in the

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final days, the end times. Wow. And when you

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look around at what the plague did, you can understand

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why. It felt like judgment. It felt like God

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had turned his back on the world. And it wasn't

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just that people were dying. It changed the church,

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right? The actual structure of the institution

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was damaged. Drastically. The mortality rate

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among the clergy was incredibly high. Think about

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it. Priests were the ones visiting the sick,

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doing last rites, leaning in to hear confessions

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of the dying. They were on the front lines. Absolutely.

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So they were dying in droves. Yeah. And you have

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all these vacant positions. The church needed

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to replace them and fast. You can't have empty

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pulpits. But you can't just conjure up a trained

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theologian. Exactly. But you can't train a theologian

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overnight. So they lowered the standards. They

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had to. Wycliffe saw these replacements. Men

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who are often uneducated, illiterate, or disreputable,

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as the sources say, taking over holy offices.

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So young Wycliffe looks around and sees the world

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ending and the people supposed to be saving souls

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are, well, they're the B team or the C team.

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Yeah, even the F team in some cases. He viewed

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the plague as an indictment. God was judging

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an unworthy clergy. That seed of resentment,

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or rather that... Critical eye toward the church

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hierarchy starts right there. He's seeing incompetence

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where there should be holiness. And just to add

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fuel to the fire, you have the papal schism happening

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later on. It's not just the local priest who

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is incompetent. The head of the snake is confused.

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The chaos of rival popes. This is the Western

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schism. You eventually have one pope in Rome

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and another pope in Avignon in France. Both are

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claiming to be the vicar of Christ. The one and

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only. Both are holding the keys to the kingdom

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of heaven. And they aren't getting along. Not

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at all. They are excommunicating each other.

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They are calling each other the Antichrist. If

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you are a logical man like Wycliffe, looking

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at this chaos, you have to start asking questions

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about authority. Right. Who do I listen to? If

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Pope A says Pope B is a devil and Pope B says

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Pope A is a devil, well, maybe they're both right.

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That is a terrifying thought for a medieval Christian.

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But okay, so let's get to the man himself. He's

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at Oxford. What kind of reputation does he have?

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Is he a radical bomb thrower from the start?

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Not at all. That's the irony. He is the establishment.

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He is the ultimate insider. He becomes the master

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of Balliol College in 1361. Later, he's the warden

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of Canterbury Hall. So he's a big deal academic.

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He's not on the fringes. A massive deal. Henry

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Knighton, a chronicler of the time who actually

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really disliked Wycliffe's later theology, still

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had to admit that Wycliffe was second to none

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in philosophy and incomparable in scholastic

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discipline. So by all accounts, he was the smartest

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guy in the room. Unquestionably. I always find

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that fascinating. The biggest revolutionaries

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often come from the very top of the system they

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eventually try to tear down. They know where

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the bodies are buried because they helped build

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the cemetery. It gives them the tools to dismantle

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it. They know the logic. Yeah. And for Wycliffe,

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his tool was logic. He was a philosopher before

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he was a reformer. Specifically, he was a realist.

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OK, let's unpack this. We're not talking about

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realist in the modern sense of being pragmatic

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or down to earth. This is deep medieval philosophy.

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Right. This is the big debate of the age. Realism

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versus nominalism. We need to get this right

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because it explains everything he does later.

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So break it down for us. What's nominalism? Right.

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This is the heavy stuff, but it's crucial. The

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dominant trend at the time was nominalism, championed

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by people like William of Ockham. Nominalists

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argued that universal concepts like humanity

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or the church. don't really exist in some higher

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reality. They're just names nomina that we give

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to groups of individual things. So for anomalous,

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the church is just the collection of people,

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buildings, and laws that we see right now. What

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you see is what you get. Exactly. It's very practical,

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very earthly. But Wycliffe disagreed vehemently.

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Wycliffe was a realist. He believed that universals

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exist really. They're eternal ideas derived directly

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from God. They exist in God's mind before they

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exist in the world. So there is a divine blueprint.

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Yes. There is a perfect church in the mind of

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God, an ideal eternal reality. And the church

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we see on earth is supposed to be a reflection

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of that. Why does that matter to the average

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person in the pew? Or rather, why does it matter

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so much to Wycliffe? It matters because of how

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you view the institution. If you're a nominalist,

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the messy, corrupt church you see is the only

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church there is. You have to deal with it. You're

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stuck with it. Right. But if you are a realist

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like Wycliffe, you can look at the visible pope

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and the visible bishops and compare them to the

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ideal church in God's mind. I see where this

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is going. Gives you a standard to judge them

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by. Exactly. And if the pope or the bishops aren't

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living up to that divine ideal, then they aren't

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the real church. They are imposters. His philosophy

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gave him the license to judge the visible institution

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against an invisible divine standard. That is

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a powerful starting point. It transforms philosophy

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into a weapon. He believed human thoughts and

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logic. bore God's image. So studying logic wasn't

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just an academic exercise. For him, it was a

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way to understand the mind of God. And that leads

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us to his big idea, the one that really started

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getting him in trouble. Dominium. Lordship. Right.

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De civili dominio. Civil dominion. Break this

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down for us. What is Wycliffe arguing here? He's

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asking a fundamental question. Who has the right

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to rule? Who has the right to own property? And

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his answer is radical. He argues that all dominium,

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all authority is conferred directly by God. Okay,

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that sounds like the standard divine right of

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kings. God picks the king, so we have to listen

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to the king. It starts that way. It sounds very

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orthodox. But then he adds the condition, the

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catch. There's always a catch with Wycliffe.

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There is. He argues that this authority is conditional

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on being in a state of grace. A state of grace,

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meaning you're not in sin. Specifically, mortal

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sin. Wycliffe argued that dominion is founded

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in grace. If a leader, whether it's a king, a

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duke, or a pope, is in a state of mortal sin,

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they forfeit their divine right to rule. Forfeit

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it. They forfeit their right to own property.

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In God's eyes, they are stripped of their authority.

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Wow. That is, that's a loaded gun. It's a nuclear

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weapon in the 14th century. Because everyone

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sins. If I'm a peasant and I think my lord is

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a greedy glutton, does that mean I don't have

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to pay my taxes? Theoretically, yes. But Wycliffe

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was careful. He applied this primarily to the

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church. He looked at the wealth of the church,

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the massive estates, the gold, the palaces, and

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he said, this is sin. The church has fallen into

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sin through wealth. Therefore. Therefore, they

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don't really own it? They have forfeited their

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right to it. Wycliffe argued the clergy should

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live in radical poverty. like the apostles he

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thought the church should look like jesus not

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like caesar i can imagine the bishops in their

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palaces hearing this and choking on their wine

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but here's the kicker he didn't just say the

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church should give it up he said someone had

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the right to take it yes state intervention he

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argued that if the church wouldn't divest itself

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of this ill -gotten wealth the state meaning

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the king and the nobility had not just the right

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but the duty to seize it and suddenly I understand

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why he had powerful friends. Precisely. That

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is the key to his survival for so long. This

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wasn't just theology. This was a fundraising

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opportunity for the government. The English government

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was broke. You have to remember that this is

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the time of the Hundred Years' War. They were

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fighting expensive campaigns in France. Right.

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Wars are not cheap. And they were tired of sending

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tax money to Rome. especially when the Pope was

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sitting in Avignon under the thumb of the French

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king, their enemy. And here comes the smartest

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man at Oxford saying, hey, you know all that

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land the church owns? God wants you to take it

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back. Talk about music to their ears. It's the

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perfect justification for a cash grab. And this

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brings us to John of Gaunt. The Duke of Lancaster.

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King Edward III's son. Essentially the most powerful

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man in England at the time because the king was

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old and senile and the heir, the Black Prince,

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was dying. Gaunt ran the show. He becomes Wycliffe's

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protector. Patron and protector. He saw Wycliffe

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as a weapon. He could use Wycliffe's theology

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to justify seizing church wealth to fund the

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military and the government. It was a perfect

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political alliance. It's so cynical, though,

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isn't it? I mean, Wycliffe is this pious scholar

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wanting a pure church, and Gaunt is just this

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power -hungry duke who wants cash. History is

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full of strange bedfellows. I doubt Gaunt cared

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one bit about realism or universals, but the

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argument worked for him, and it elevated Wycliffe.

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In 1374, Wycliffe was actually sent to Bruges

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as a diplomat to negotiate with the Pope's envoys.

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Wow, so he's on the national stage now. He's

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not just a professor anymore. He's a player on

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the international stage. Imagine Wycliffe at

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that table. The austere academic versus the slick

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papal lawyers. It must have been a clash of cultures.

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But it solidified his position as the king's

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man. But being a player means you make enemies.

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And Wycliffe made some big ones. The bishops

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weren't just going to roll over and give up their

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estates. He certainly did make enemies. The church

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hierarchy decided they had to shut him up. Let's

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talk about the trial at St. Paul's. 1377. This

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scene is incredible. It plays out like a movie

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script. It is high drama. Wycliffe is summoned

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by the Bishop of London, William Courtenay. Now,

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Courtney is a powerful figure, an aristocrat.

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He wants to crush this upstart priest who is

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threatening his property and his power. So Wycliffe

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goes to St. Paul's Cathedral. But he doesn't

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go alone. He doesn't go like a humble penitent.

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No. He rolls up with John of Gaunt, the Duke

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of Lancaster, and the Earl Marshal Henry Percy.

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and they bring armed supporters. They force their

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way through the crowd. It's like a mob boss walking

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into a courtroom with his muscle. It really was.

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Yeah, and the cathedral is packed. There's a

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hostile crowd because Londoners generally hated

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John of Gaunt. They thought he was a tyrant.

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Tensions are sky high, and the trial, well, it

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never actually happened. Why not? Because they

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got into an argument about a chair. A chair.

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You're kidding. Yes, a chair. Wycliffe walks

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in into the Lady Chapel, and Lord Percy, the

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Earl Marshal, tells Wycliffe to sit down. He

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says something like, You have much to answer

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for. You need a soft seat. Okay, that sounds

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polite, but in that context, that's a power move.

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It's a massive insult to the bishop. In a church

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court, the accused stands. The judge sits. By

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telling him to sit, Percy is saying, you are

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equal to the bishop. This court has no authority

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over you. And Bishop Courtney explodes. He goes

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ballistic. He says, no. Criminals stand before

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their judges. He refuses to let him sit. And

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then? And then John of Gaunt jumps in. He starts

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shouting at the bishop. Sources say he threatened

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to humble the pride of the bishop. He even reportedly

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mumbled that he would drag the bishop out of

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the church by his hair. That is distinctively

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undiplomatic. It turned into a shouting match

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between the most powerful secular lord and the

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powerful bishop. It completely devolved. That's

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where Wycliffe. He's just standing there. He

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barely got a word in. He's the eye of the hurricane.

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The whole assembly broke up in a riot. The London

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crowd heard Gaunt threatening their bishop, and

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they rushed the stage. So they had to flee. Gaunt

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and Wycliffe had to flee for their lives. No

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formal charges were stuck that day. But it shows

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how political this had become. It wasn't about

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theology anymore. It was about power. It was

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state versus church played out in a shouting

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match. Exactly. But the church wasn't done. Pope

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Gregory XI strikes back in May 1377. He issues

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a papal bull. Actually, he sends five copies

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of it. Covering his bases. He sends them to the

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king, the archbishop, the University of Oxford.

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He wants everyone to know. And he condemns 19

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of Wycliffe's theses. What was the core of the

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condemnation? Was it the church shouldn't own

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property thing? That was the main thrust. They

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cited de civili dominio. They were furious about

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the idea that the church shouldn't own property.

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this is interesting, that excommunication shouldn't

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include imprisonment. Wait, explain that. That

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sounds like a civil rights issue. It kind of

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was. Wycliffe argued that excommunication was

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a spiritual penalty. Right. It meant you were

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cut off from the sacraments. That's bad enough.

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Right. But the church was using it as a legal

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weapon. If you were excommunicated, after 40

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days, the church could signal the state and you

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could be thrown in prison. Wycliffe said, no.

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That's an abuse of power. The Pope can't use

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the king's jails to enforce his spiritual will.

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So the Pope condemns him. Erroneous and dangerous.

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Does Wycliffe back down? Does he apologize? Not

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even a little bit. In fact, he gets lucky. The

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bull arrives late in December. By that time,

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King Edward III has died. The political landscape

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is shifting. So there's a power vacuum. A bit,

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yes. The new king, Richard II, is just a boy.

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The government is in flux. And Wycliffe advises

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the king's council that legally they can just

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ignore the pope's demand for money. He's doubling

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down. He's telling them the pope is wrong. Keep

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the cash. He is. And this is where his rhetoric

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starts to get really heated. He starts defining

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his enemies clearly. The friars and the pope.

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The friars. These are the wandering monks, right?

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Franciscans, Dominicans. They were supposed to

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be the good guys, the poor ones. Right. Originally,

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Wycliffe admired them. He wanted to reform them.

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But by this point, his language changes. He wants

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their extinction. Extinction. That's harsh. He

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called them pests of society, enemies of religion.

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Why the change of heart? He felt they were hypocrites.

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They took vows of poverty but were obsessed with

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temporal gain. They were preaching for money,

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telling entertaining stories to get donations

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rather than teaching scripture. He saw them as

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peddlers of fake religion. And the Pope. This

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is the biggest shift. Early in his career, Wycliffe

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respected the office of the Pope. But as the

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schism dragged on, with two Popes fighting and

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the attacks on him increased, he came to view

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the Pope not just as wrong, but as the Antichrist.

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That's the Antichrist. That is a point of no

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return. You can't really negotiate with the Antichrist.

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It is. He argued that the claims of the papacy

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were unhistorical. He looked at the Bible and

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said, I don't see a Pope here. I don't see cardinals.

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I don't see this hierarchy. I see Peter. I see

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Paul. But I don't see a prince of the church

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living in a palace. So up until now, Wycliffe

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has survived because he's useful to the state.

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He's attacking the church's money, which the

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state likes. But then he pivots. He moves from

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politics to pure theology. And that's where he

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loses his safety net. This is part three of our

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story. The theological pivot. This is where he

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decides to go after the Eucharist. The doctrine

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of transubstantiation. The central miracle of

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the medieval mass. The belief that when the priest

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blesses the bread and wine, They literally substantially

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transform into the body and blood of Christ.

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So they might look like bread, taste like bread.

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But they are flesh and blood. That was the doctrine.

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And Wycliffe says no. He says no. Starting around

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1380, he attacks this. He argues for what we

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might call consubstantiation or remnants. Remnants.

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That's a good word. Meaning the bread remains.

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Correct. He argued the bread is very God in form

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of bread, but it remains bread substantially.

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It keeps its earthly nature while gaining a spiritual

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dignity. Why did he care so much? This seems

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like such a fine theological point. Why not just

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let people believe the miracle? Because of his

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realist philosophy? It offended his logic. He

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thought it was a logical impossibility for an

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accident, the appearance of bread, to exist without

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the substance of bread. So for him, it was a

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philosophical error. And worse, he thought it

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was idolatry. He said people were worshiping

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a piece of baked dough. He thought it was a lie

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invented by priests to increase their own power.

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OK, so why is this the line in the sand? Why

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did this make John of Gaunt say, OK, I'm out?

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Because denying transubstantiation was heresy.

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Pure and simple. Attacking the church's wealth.

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That's politics. That's business. Kings do that

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all the time. Right. But attacking the mass,

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that's attacking the very mechanism of salvation

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that the church controlled. It's attacking the

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magic. It's touching the third rail. Precisely.

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And for the nobility, this was too much. They

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didn't want a heretic. They wanted a tax break.

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John of Gaunt actually traveled to Oxford specifically

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to tell Wycliffe to shut up about it. Did he?

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He refused. Wycliffe was isolated. He lost his

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powerful friends. But he wouldn't stop. He was

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committed to the truth as he saw it, regardless

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of the cost. And that leaves to the earthquake

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synod of 1382. I love the name of this event.

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It sounds like a wrestling match. It's one of

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those moments where history writes the script

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a little too perfectly. Archbishop Courtney,

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his old enemy from the shouting match at St.

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Paul's, is now the Archbishop of Canterbury.

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So he's got more power now. He calls a meeting

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to finally crush Wycliffe. They gather at Blackstriers

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in London. And just as they're sitting down to

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deliberate... The ground shakes. A massive earthquake

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hits London. Walls crack. Stones fall. People

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are terrified. I assume Wycliffe's side had something

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to say about that. Oh, absolutely. They said,

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look, God is angry at you for judging his servant,

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Wycliffe. The earth is trembling at your injustice.

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But the archbishop had a different spin. Courtney

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was clever. He calmed the assembly down. He said,

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no, no, this is a good sign. The earth is purifying

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itself. Just as the earth is expelling wind and

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fumes during a quake, the church must expel this

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erroneous doctrine. He compared the earthquake

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to the earth farting out heresy. Essentially,

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yes. He turned a terrifying omen into a confirmation

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of his mission. That is incredible spin doctoring.

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You have to admire the quick thinking. It worked.

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The earthquake synod condemned 24 of Wycliffe's

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propositions. 10 were declared heresy. 14 were

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declared erroneous. So what happens to Wycliffe?

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Is he burned at the stake right then and there?

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That's usually how these stories end. Surprisingly,

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no. He is expelled from Oxford. He's banned from

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teaching. But he isn't executed. He retires to

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his parish in Letterworth. Why wasn't he killed?

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He still had enough residual support. And perhaps

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the church didn't want to create a martyr just

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yet. And remember, the schism was still happening.

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The church was distracted. And Wycliffe wasn't

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leading an army. He was just a very loud, very

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annoying professor. So he's in Letterworth. He's

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kicked out of the university. This should be

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the end of his career. But in a way, this is

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where he becomes the morning star. Because now

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he turns his attention to one thing. The Bible.

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De Veritate Sacre Scripture, on the truth of

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Holy Scripture. This is where he lays down the

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foundation for the Reformation. Sola Scriptura.

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Scripture alone. Wycliffe argued that the Bible

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is the only authoritative guide for the Christian.

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If it's not in the Bible, like the papacy or

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monks or the complex mass, it's not valid. It's

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a human invention. Now, you mentioned earlier

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that Wycliffe was a realist philosopher. How

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does that connect to his view of the Bible? This

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is fascinating. Yeah. He believed the Bible was

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one unified word of God, and because it was from

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God, who was truth itself, it had to be literally

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true. Literally true, like every single word.

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Yes, even the parables. He believed that when

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Jesus spoke in parables, he was reporting actual

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events that had happened. He couldn't accept

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that Jesus would use fiction to teach truth.

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That is extreme. It led him to some very strange

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places. There's the famous worm example. Please

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tell me about the worm. I need to hear this.

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So in Psalm 22, verse 6, there's a line that

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says, I am a worm and no man. Christians have

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always interpreted this as a prophecy of Christ's

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suffering and humiliation on the cross. Right.

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It's metaphorical. But Wycliffe read this literally.

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He asked, why would Christ call himself a worm?

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He went to his medieval biology books. Now, in

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the 14th century, people believed worms were

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generated spontaneously from the earth. They

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thought they appeared without sexual contact,

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without parents. Okay. I think I see where this

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is going. So Wycliffe argued that this verse

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was proof of the virgin birth. Christ calls himself

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a worm because, like a worm, According to medieval

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science, he was born without sexual union. That

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is a level of literalism I have never heard before.

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It's taking bad science and applying it to theology

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to prove a point. It shows how his mind worked.

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He tried to harmonize everything in scripture

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with science and logic as he understood it. He

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needed everything to fit into one perfect system.

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But the biggest barrier to the Bible wasn't interpretation.

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It was language. It was in Latin, and normal

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people spoke English. Exactly. And this is Wycliffe's

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most famous legacy, the Wycliffe Bible. He believed

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the laity, the common people, should have access

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to God's law in their own tongue. He said, Christ

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taught the people in the language they understood.

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Why shouldn't we? But we established in the intro

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that he might not have written it himself. The

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Wycliffe Bible refers to two distinct versions,

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the early version and the late version. The tradition

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says Wycliffe did the translation, but modern

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analysis of the writing style suggests it was

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a team effort. Who was on the team? Nicholas

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of Hereford is a big name associated with the

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early version. We actually have manuscripts where

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the handwriting changes mid -sentence, suggesting

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someone else took over, possibly because Hereford

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was summoned to Rome to stand trial. What was

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the early version like? It was. Rough. It was

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a very literal, word -for -word translation from

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the Latin Vulgate. So it was clunky. You couldn't

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just read it like a story. Incredibly clunky.

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It kept the Latin word order. So instead of saying,

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the boy hit the ball, it might say, the ball

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hit the boy, if that was the Latin order. It's

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very difficult to read. And the late version?

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That appeared around 1388, after Wycliffe died,

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actually. It was likely revised by John Purvey,

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Wycliffe's secretary. This one flowed much better.

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It was good, idiomatic English. It was made to

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be read aloud. So Wycliffe was like the project

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manager, the visionary. He was the inspiration.

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He created the environment where this could happen.

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He provided the intellectual cover. And despite

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the church banning these translations later,

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making it a capital offense to own one, they

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were hugely popular. How popular? Over 200 manuscripts

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still exist today. That's amazing for a banned

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book in the days before the printing press. Every

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single one had to be handwritten. That's incredibly

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expensive and time consuming. It shows the hunger

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people had. They wanted to know what the book

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actually said. They were risking their lives

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to read it. So Wycliffe is in Letterworth translating

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or supervising translations and writing tracts.

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But he's not just writing. He's organizing. Let's

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talk about the Lollards. The poor priests. Wycliffe

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realized that if the friars were corrupt, he

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needed an alternative army. So he sent out itinerant

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preachers, often laymen. not ordained priests.

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They walked from village to village, barefoot,

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clad in simple russet robes, preaching God's

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law. And they're called lollards. Where does

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that name come from? It started as an insult.

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It likely comes from a Dutch word, lollen, meaning

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to mumble. The idea was that they were just mumbling

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prayers or nonsense. But like many insults in

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history, like Methodist or Quaker, they wore

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it as a badge of honor. They did. And the lollards

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became a genuine movement. They spread Wycliffe's

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ideas into the countryside. They preached in

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churchyards, in markets, anywhere people would

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listen. But ideas have consequences, and sometimes

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those consequences are violent. We have to talk

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about 1381, the Peasants' Revolt. A massive social

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upheaval. The peasants of England rose up against

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their lords. They demanded an end to serfdom,

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lower taxes, and the redistribution of wealth.

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Was Wycliffe responsible for this? It's the million

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-dollar question. Wycliffe disapproved of the

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revolt itself. He was a scholar. He believed

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in order. He didn't want anarchy, but. But. But

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he had spent years telling everyone that unrighteous

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lords forfeited their right to rule. He had spent

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years railing against the wealth of the mighty.

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You can see how a peasant hearing a Lollard preacher

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say, God hates rich, sinful masters, might pick

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up a pitchfork and say, okay, let's fix it. Right.

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The bishop is in sin, so his property isn't really

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his. Okay, I'll take it. Exactly. His preaching

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against wealth and nobility was blamed for sparking

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the fire. In fact, during the revolt, the Archbishop

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of Canterbury, Simon Sudbury, was dragged out

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of the Tower of London and beheaded by the mob

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on Tower Hill. Beheaded? Yes. And some of Wycliffe's

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more radical followers justified it. They said

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Sudbury was a sinner and an oppressor and got

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what he deserved. That must have horrified Wycliffe.

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It likely did. But it also terrified the establishment.

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It confirmed their worst fears. Wycliffe's theology

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leads to anarchy. It leads to dead archbishops.

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So we're nearing the end of his life. He's in

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Letterworth. He's managed to stay out of prison,

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but his name is Mud in high society. Yes, and

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his health is failing. On New Year's Eve, 1384,

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he's attending Mass, which is ironic given his

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views on it, and he suffers a fatal stroke. He

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loses his speech. He dies a few days later. And

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he's buried in consecrated ground, so he died

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inside the church. Technically, yes. He was never

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excommunicated while he was alive. He died a

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priest. But the church has a long memory. They

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don't forgive and forget. A very long memory.

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Fast forward to 1415, the Council of Constance.

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This is over the 30 years after his death. This

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is the same council that dealt with Jan Hus,

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right? Yes. Jan Hus was a Czech reformer who

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was deeply influenced by Wycliffe's writings.

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Wycliffe's Latin works had traveled all the way

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to Bohemia. Hus was essentially a Wycliffeite.

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The council condemned Hus and burned him at the

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stake. And they decided they weren't done with

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Wycliffe either, even though he was already dead.

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No. They declared Wycliffe a heretic, they banned

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his writings, and then they ordered a gruesome

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finale, a damnatio memoria, a condemnation of

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his memory. 1428. Bishop Richard Fleming is ordered

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to exhume Wycliffe's body. They went to the churchyard

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in Letterworth. They dug up his bones. After

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more than 40 years in the ground, they burned

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them to ash. Why? What is the point of burning

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a skeleton? It was to deny him a Christian burial,

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to remove him from consecrated ground, to say,

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this man is erased. He does not belong with the

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faithful. It was a symbolic act of ultimate rejection.

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And they threw the ashes into the river. The

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River Swift, which flows through Letterworth.

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It's such a visceral image, trying to wash him

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away. But as many historians have noted, the

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symbolism backfired. How so? There's a famous

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observation that comes from the church historian

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Thomas Fuller that captures it perfectly. He

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wrote that the River Swift bore his ashes into

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the Avon, the Avon into the Severn, the Severn

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into the narrow seas, and the seas into the main

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ocean. So by trying to disperse him, they essentially

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symbolized the spread of his doctrine to the

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whole world. Exactly. You can burn the bones,

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but you can't burn the idea. By the time they

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burned him, the Reformation was already unstoppable.

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Before we wrap up, I want to do a quick doctrine

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check. We've covered a lot, but let's crystallize

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what he actually believed at the end. Because

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some of it is very Protestant, but some of it

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is still very medieval. True. Let's break it

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down. First, predestination. He believed in double

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predestination. God authors everything. The elect

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are predestined to be saved, and the others are

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predestined to be lost. It's very strict. Very

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Calvinist before Calvin. Second, the church.

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He believed the true church is invisible. It's

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the body of the elect, known only to God, the

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visible Catholic institution. That's just a shell.

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It might contain the true church, but it isn't

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identical to it. And third? Papal fallibility.

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The Pope could be wrong. In fact, the Pope might

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not even be one of the elect. He could be predestined

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for damnation. That's the heavy one. The idea

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that the Pope might be one of the damned. It

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completely undermines the hierarchy. If the Pope

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isn't one of the elect, then he has no spiritual

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authority whatsoever. He's just a man in a funny

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hat. So what does this all mean? When we look

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back at the Morning Star, what do we see? We

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see a man of contradictions. He was a high -ranking

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academic who championed the poor. He was a man

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who sought the king's help, a political operator.

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but eventually alienated the entire nobility.

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He wanted to save the church by stripping it

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of everything it owned. He was a medieval scholastic,

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using medieval logic to dismantle the medieval

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world. He didn't set out to start a new religion,

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he wanted to purify the old one. But his logic

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was a battering ram that eventually broke the

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whole thing open. It's fascinating that he died

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naturally, in his bed, while his spiritual successor,

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Jan Hus, burned, and later Tyndale and others

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would burn. He was the lucky one who got away

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with it. He was the first. The crack in the dam.

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Everyone who came after him owed him something.

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Here is a final provocative thought for you to

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take with you. Wycliffe's concept of the invisible

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church is really unsettling if you think about

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it. How so? Well, Wycliffe argued that since

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we don't know who is pre -Justin for salvation,

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only God knows the list, we can never really

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know if the pope or the bishop or your pastor

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is actually a member of the church. Right. They

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could be an imposter. They could be a wolf in

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sheep's clothing in the most spiritual sense.

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It creates a profound uncertainty. You can't

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trust the robes. You can't trust the title. Right.

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It forces you to stop looking at the person and

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start looking at the text. It shifts the burden

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of discernment onto you, the individual believer.

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You have to check the work. Which is the essence

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of the modern age. Skepticism of authority. Individual

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responsibility. Exactly. So the next time you

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see a leader, political or religious. Just remember

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Wycliffe and ask yourself, are they real or are

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they just wearing the hat? And maybe think about

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the worm in Psalm 22 differently, too. Yes, the

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worm in the virgin birth. Never forget the worm.

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Thanks for listening to The Deep Dive. We'll

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catch you in the next century.
