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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today, we are

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looking at a topic that, you know, it feels like

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it should be familiar. It's about knights and

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wizards and kings. But as soon as you peel back

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that first layer, you realize you're actually

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looking at one of the biggest literary mysteries

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in history. It really is. It's a mystery wrapped

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in a history book, wrapped in, well, a fantasy

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novel. We are talking about Geoffrey of Monmouth.

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Now, for anyone listening who might not know

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the name, Geoffrey is the guy who essentially

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gave us King Arthur. He is. If you've ever pictured

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Arthur pulling a sword from a stone or Merlin

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casting a spell or the Knights of the Round Table

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gathering for a feast, you are effectively living

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inside Geoffrey of Monmouth's imagination. Wow.

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He didn't just write a book. He built an entire

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world. But here is the hook that really grabbed

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me when I was going through the research packet.

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This guy wrote a book called the Historia Regum

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Britannia, the history of the kings of Britain

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in the, what, the 1130s? That's right. And for

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literally hundreds of years, people thought it

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was true. It was the history book. It was. Absolutely.

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For centuries, it was accepted as the standard

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historical record. But today, historians look

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at it and just say, this is a forgery. Or at

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least this is mostly fiction. So you have this

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incredible tension. Was Jeffrey a historian who

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had access to some kind of lost records? Or was

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he maybe the greatest con artist in literary

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history? That is the fundamental question. And

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I think to answer it, we have to move past that

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simple binary of liar or truth teller. Yeah.

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Jeffrey is something I think. Much more complicated.

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Okay. He's an architect of mythology. And what

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we're going to do today is look at how he built

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that mythology, where he came from, and crucially

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knew. research that suggests he might have been,

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well, telling the truth a little more than we

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realized. Yeah, we are absolutely going to dig

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into the Lost Voices of Celtic Britain project

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later, which is just fascinating stuff. It is.

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But let's start with the man himself, because

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I realized reading the prep notes, I have this,

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you know, this image of a medieval monk scribbling

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in a candlelit room, but I don't actually know

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who Geoffrey was. Well, the biographical picture

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is a bit like a mosaic with a lot of missing

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tiles. We have to infer a lot. But we know he

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was born roughly between say, 1090 and 1100.

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Okay, so let's place that in time. That is just

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a generation after 1066, the Norman conquest.

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Exactly. This is the post -conquest generation.

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The Normans, the French -speaking invaders, have

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taken control of England. The old Anglo -Saxon

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order is completely gone. The whole social hierarchy

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has been reset. Right. So Jeffrey's growing up

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in a world that is still very much in flux. And

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where is he growing up? His name is Jeffrey of

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Monmouth, so I'm assuming he's from Monmouth.

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All the evidence suggests he was likely born

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there or at least raised there. And this is vital

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for understanding him. Monmouth isn't deep in

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England, and it isn't deep in the Welsh mountains.

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It's in the Welsh marches. The marches. I've

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heard that term, but can you maybe paint a picture

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of what that actually means in the 12th century?

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Sure. It's a frontier zone. It's the borderlands

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between what was then Norman -controlled England

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and independent Wales. It was a highly militarized

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society ruled by these incredibly powerful Norman

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marcher lords who had a lot of autonomy to, well.

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to fate the welsh princes so it's a war zone

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basically it could be but it was also a melting

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pot you have to imagine you would have heard

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welsh spoken in the streets probably english

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spoken by the local peasantry and then definitely

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french spoken by the ruling elite in the castles

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so jeffrey is a product of this This cultural

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collision. He's a border creature. He understands

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the other, the Welsh, but he operates entirely

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within the Norman power structure. We know that

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later in his life, between about 1129 and 1151,

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he's in the Oxford area. Oxford, okay. And we

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see his name appearing as a witness on charters.

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When you say witnessing charters, that's legal

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work, right? It's official. Yes. A charter is

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essentially a deed or a grant of rights or land.

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For his name to appear on that witness list,

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it means he was a person of some standing. And

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he's often styled as Majesty. Jeffrey. Magister.

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Master. Which implies he was a teacher. An academic.

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It implies he had a high level of education,

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yeah. Probably from one of the big cathedral

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schools, or, and this is a likely theory, he

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was teaching at St. George's College. which is

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right inside Oxford Castle. He was what's known

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as a secular canon. Help me out with secular

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canon. Does that mean he wasn't a monk shut away

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in a monastery? Correct. A monk lives in a monastery,

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cloistered from the world, following a strict

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rule like the Benedictine rule. A secular canon

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is a member of the clergy, but they live in the

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world. They might live in a house, own property,

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move in social circles. They are the intellectuals

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and the administrators of the church, not the

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hermits. Okay, so he's an ambitious academic.

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He's hanging out in Oxford. Now, I want to ask

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about his name. We call him Geoffrey of Monmouth.

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But in the notes, there's this fascinating detail

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that he is sometimes listed in documents as Galfritus

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Arturus, Geoffrey Arthur. This is a delicious

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little detail, isn't it? I mean, it feels too

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on the nose. The guy who writes the definitive

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King Arthur legend is named Arthur. What do we

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make of that? Well, there's a vigorous debate

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about this. The most, let's say, boring answer.

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is usually the right one in history. Right. Arthur

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was likely his father's name. In the Welsh naming

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convention, the patronymics, you would be Geoffrey,

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son of Arthur, or in Welsh, Gruffydd ap Arthur.

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Okay, that makes perfect sense. It's a patronym.

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It does, but historians love to speculate. And

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there is another theory that Arthur wasn't his

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father's name at all, but a nickname. A nickname,

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like a handle. Exactly. Imagine Geoffrey at Oxford.

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in the dining hall, constantly bending everyone's

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ear about these obscure British legends talking

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about this hero Arthur non -stop. Oh, I see.

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It's entirely possible his colleagues started

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calling him Jeffrey Arthur, in the same way you

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might call someone you know Scar Wars Steve,

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if they never ever stopped talking about the

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movies. That humanizes him so much. It paints

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him as this obsessed scholar even before he puts

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pen to paper. It suggests his whole identity

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was wrapped up in this figure. But this leads

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us to the bigger, more critical question of his

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identity. Was he Welsh? I just assumed he was.

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He's from Monmouth. He's writing about ancient

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British kings. Isn't he basically a Welsh patriot?

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That was the standard assumption for a very long

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time. For centuries, people read the Historia

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as a kind of nationalist text. A proud Welshman

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telling the Norman conquerors, hey, we used to

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rule this entire island and our kings were better

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than yours. But... The more recent research suggests

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otherwise. It's complicated. If you look at his

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linguistic skills, for instance, his knowledge

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of the Welsh language seems to be, well, patchy

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at best. Really? Yeah, he makes mistakes with

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Welsh place names, with etymologies. He just

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doesn't seem to have the deep native grasp of

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the language that you would expect from a genuine

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Welsh scholar of that era. So if he's not Welsh,

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then what is he? The leading counter theory,

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and it's a very compelling one, is the Breton

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theory. OK, break that down for us. Who were

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the Bretons in this context? The Bretons were

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people from Brittany, which is that peninsula

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in northwest France. Now, originally, their ancestors

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were Britons who fled England during the Anglo

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-Saxon invasions centuries earlier. So they were

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Celts, culturally related to the Welsh. They

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even spoke a language that was very similar to

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Welsh. But they were French. Politically, they

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were from France. Geographically and politically,

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yes. And crucially, they were major allies of

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William the Conqueror. A huge contingent of the

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army that invaded England in 1066 was Breton.

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Okay. And after the conquest, many of these Breton

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lords were given huge tracts of land in, you

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guessed it, the Walsh Marches. Ah, so Monmouth

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itself is actually run by Bretons. The lords

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of Monmouth were a Breton family. And what's

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more, the names Gelfridus, Geoffrey, and Arthur

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were actually quite common in Brittany at the

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time, much more so than they were in Wales. Wow.

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This flips the script entirely. If he's Breton,

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he's not an underdog fighting for the oppressed

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Welsh. He's part of the conquering elite. Precisely.

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And that changes the entire motivation for his

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book. If he is Breton, he's not writing a history

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to subvert. the Normans. He's writing a history

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of the ancient Britons to flatter his own people,

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the Bretons, and to show the Normans, look, we

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Bretons are your equals. Our ancestors were magnificent

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kings like Arthur. So the whole book becomes

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a tool for social climbing within the Anglo -Norman

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court rather than some kind of subversive Welsh

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text. Exactly. It's about securing a place for

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his people at the high table of the new Norman

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kingdom. And that makes so much sense given what

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happens to him later in life. He does eventually

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get a big promotion, right? He becomes a bishop.

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That's a very establishment role. He does. In

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1152, right at the end of his life, he is consecrated

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as the Bishop of St. Asaph. And St. Asaph is

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in North Wales. It is. But here is the tragic

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or perhaps just ironic twist in Jeffrey's life

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story. We have absolutely no evidence that he

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ever set foot in his own diocese. Wait, what?

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He's the bishop of a place he never even goes

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to? It happens more often than you'd think in

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the medieval church. But for Geoffrey, it was

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really a matter of personal safety. At that time,

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North Wales was under the control of Owain Gwynedd,

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a very powerful and very fierce Welsh prince

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who was at war with the English crown. So if

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Geoffrey, who is an appointee of the English

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king, had ridden into St. Asaph... He likely

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would have been killed or at the very least captured

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and held for a massive ransom. So he holds the

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title, he gets the prestige and probably some

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of the income, but he stays safely in London

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and Oxford. He is an absentee bishop. Yes. And

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it just reinforces that idea that while he wrote

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about Wales, he wasn't really of Wales in a political

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sense. He was always an outsider looking in.

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So let's turn to the work that made him famous,

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the Historia Regum Britannia. You said it was

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popular, but this book was a genuine blockbuster.

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It is hard to overstate how popular this book

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was. I mean, remember, this is the days before

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the printing press. Every single book had to

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be hand copied onto expensive vellum. It was

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slow, laborious, and incredibly expensive. And

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yet we have nearly 200 surviving manuscripts

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from the medieval period alone. That is an astronomical

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number for any text from that era. It was the

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Harry Potter of the 12th century. It was Harry

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Potter meets Hamilton. It was thrilling entertainment,

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but it was also profound national myth -making.

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And the book covers this massive span of time,

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something like 2 ,000 years. And it all starts

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way, way back with Brutus of Troy. I've always

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found this part completely fascinating. He claims

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Britain was founded by Trojans. Yes. He creates

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this whole narrative where Brutus, who he says

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is a great -grandson of Aeneas, the famous Trojan

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hero who fled the burning city of Troy and went

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on to found the line of Rome, was exiled from

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Italy. Okay. And after many adventures, he and

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his followers land on this island, which was

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then called Albion, and was only inhabited by

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a few giants. He defeats the giants and renames

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the island Britain after himself, Brutus. And

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his followers become the Britons. Why do that?

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Why go to all that trouble to connect Britain

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to Troy? What's the point? It's all about status.

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It's about prestige. In the medieval mind, Rome

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was the absolute peak of civilization. Every

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emerging European power wanted to claim some

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kind of connection to the classical world. So

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it's a way of looking legitimate. It's a massive

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diplomatic flex by saying, our founder comes

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from Troy. Geoffrey is telling the world, the

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Britons are cousins to the Romans. We aren't

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just some barbarians at the foggy edge of the

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world. We have a classical pedigree. It puts

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the British kings on the same level as the Caesars.

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And then the book just powers through all these

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other kings. I saw King Lear in there, which

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is Shakespeare's King Lear. It is. Shakespeare

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got the story directly from a translation of

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Geoffrey, Cymbeline too. Right. And eventually

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this grand history leads up to the main event.

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Arthur. Arthur completely dominates the central

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section of the book. And you have to understand,

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the Arthur that Geoffrey presents is not just

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a local warlord fending off Saxons. He is an

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emperor, a world -conquering hero. Right, we

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mentioned this before. In Geoffrey's version,

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Arthur invades Europe. He doesn't just invade,

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he conquers. He takes Gaul, which is modern France.

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He defeats the Roman armies sent against him.

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He's on his way to be crowned emperor in Rome

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itself when he gets the news that his nephew,

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Mordred, has betrayed him back home. It's just

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an epic fantasy of dominance. For an audience

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in the 12th century, seeing a British king totally

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humble the Roman Empire must have been incredibly

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satisfying to read. Oh, absolutely. It's a validation

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narrative. But this brings us to the elephant

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in the room. The ancient book. Because in the

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preface, Geoffrey tells us exactly where he got

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all of this incredible information. He does.

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And this is probably the most debated sentence

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in the entire history of Arthurian scholarship.

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Geoffrey claims that his friend and superior,

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Walter, the archdeacon of Oxford, gave him a

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certain most ancient book in the British language.

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The British language, meaning Welsh or something

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like it? Yes. And he says this book set out the

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history of all these kings, from Brutus to Cadwallader,

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in perfect chronological order. And Jeffrey claims

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his role is just as the translator. He's saying,

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don't look at me. I'm just translating Walter's

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book. That's his defense. I have merely turned

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it into Latin at Archdeacon Walter's request.

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So the million dollar question. Did this ancient

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book actually exist? The short answer from pretty

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much every modern historian is no. Almost certainly

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not. Why are we so sure, though? I mean. Books

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get lost all the time. Libraries burn down. Is

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it totally impossible that there was a Welsh

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manuscript history that we just don't have anymore?

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It's not physically impossible that a book could

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be lost, but it is textually and historically

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highly, highly suspicious. First, the narrative

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Jeffrey produces fits the political and cultural

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concerns of the 12th century a little too perfectly.

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It addresses exactly the questions the Anglo

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-Normans were interested in. It's suspiciously

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convenient. Very. Secondly, no one else ever

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mentions seeing this book. No other Welsh scholar,

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no other English historian ever references this

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foundational text of British history. It appears

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in Geoffrey's preface and then vanishes from

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history. It's a bit like the my girlfriend goes

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to another school situation. Chuckles. That is

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a perfect analogy. You wouldn't know her. She

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lives in Canada. Yeah. The found manuscript is

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a classic literary trope. It's a device to give

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your work authority. It says, this isn't my invention,

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this is ancient wisdom that I have uncovered.

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Okay, but here is where I get a little stuck.

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Walter the Archdeacon was a real guy. A very

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respected, powerful figure. Very real. Yes. He

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was Jeffrey's superior in the church hierarchy.

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They witnessed charters together. Their names

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are on the same documents. So if I write a book

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and I say in the preface, my boss gave me the

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secret files and I'm just completely lying. Isn't

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my boss going to say something? Isn't Walter

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going to call him out and say, Jeffrey, I never

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gave you that book. And that is the crucial nuance.

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You're absolutely right. Jeffrey couldn't have

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lied completely. If he had just invented the

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entire story about Walter out of thin air, Walter

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would have and should have exposed him as a fraud.

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So what's the middle ground? The middle ground

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and the theory most scholars lean towards is

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that Walter did give him something. Just not

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the one ancient book. Exactly. The theory is

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that Walter, who was an educated man with connections,

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probably gave Jeffrey a collection of materials.

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Maybe some Walsh genealogies, a few king lists,

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perhaps some scraps of oral poetry that had been

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written down. A disorganized pile of stuff. And

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Jeffrey took that pile of raw material and spun

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it into gold. He took the skeleton. that Walter

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provided, and he fleshed it out. He added the

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epic battles, the long speeches, the dramatic

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moments. He borrowed from Roman historians like

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Livy to describe battles. He essentially took

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a dozen different fragmented sources and wove

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them into one single seamless epic narrative.

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So the ancient book was a kind of polite fiction,

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a shield. It's a brilliant move. It allows him

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to have it both ways. He gets all the credit

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for the beautiful Latin style and the exciting

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story. But if anyone criticizes the historical

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content, he can just shrug and say, well, that's

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what was in the book Walter gave me. He blames

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his source material. It's a perfect defense.

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Speaking of criticism, not everyone bought this

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story, did they? Even back in the 1100s, there

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were some serious skeptics. Oh, the academic

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shade thrown at Jeffrey was intense. You have

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to remember, there were other very serious historians

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working at this time. men like William of Malmesbury

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and later William of Newburgh. And they were

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working from credible sources like the Venerable

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Bede or Roman accounts. And Jeffrey's story didn't

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line up? Not at all. William of Newburgh, writing

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around 1190, just did not hold back. He basically

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said, and I'm paraphrasing, it is vividly clear

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that everything this man wrote about Arthur and

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his successors is a lie, made up either by himself

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or by others. Wow. He pointed out, very logically,

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that if Arthur had really conquered most of Europe

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and defeated the Romans, surely some French or

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Roman or Italian writer would have mentioned

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it. That is a very solid point. It's hard to

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hide an emperor conquering your country. It is.

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But my absolute favorite critic is Gerald of

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Wales. We mentioned him earlier. Gerald was a

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prolific writer, a bit of a gossip, and he clearly

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had this love -hate relationship with Geoffrey's

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work. He tells an anecdote that is just. It's

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the 12th century equivalent of a savagely viral

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tweet. This is the demon story. I was hoping

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we'd get to this. It is. So Gerald tells us about

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a Welshman named Mylar who lived in the city

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of Caroleon. And Mylar was possessed by demons.

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As one is. Naturally. But these demons gave him

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a very specific and unusual power. They made

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him a human lie detector. He could see them apparently

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sitting on the shoulders of liars. Okay. And

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if he was in the presence of a lie or a book

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containing lies, the demons would get all excited

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and dance and celebrate. Right. But Gerald says

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if you place the Gospel of John on Mylar's chest,

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the demons would scream in agony and flee. They

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couldn't stand the absolute truth of the scripture.

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They would just vanish like birds. Standard exorcism

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rules. Holy book equals no demons. Got it. But

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then they decided to run an experiment. They

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took the gospel away and they replaced it with

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Geoffrey Monmouth's History of the Kings of Britain.

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I love where this is going. Gerald writes that

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the demons didn't just return, they swarmed.

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They came back in greater numbers than ever before,

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covering not just Myler's body but the book itself,

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hanging off it, sitting on it, rejoicing for

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longer and with more celebration than ever. That

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is absolutely brutal. It is the ultimate literary

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burn. He is saying, no uncertain terms, that

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Geoffrey's book is the anti -gospel. It is so

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full of lies that it acts as a magnet for the

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forces of hell. And yet, despite the demons,

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despite the academic critics, the book survived.

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It didn't just survive. It thrived. Because the

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people in power, the Norman and later Plantagenet

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kings of England, loved it. It gave them a historical

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precedent for ruling over the whole island of

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Britain. It became the official preferred version

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of history. So it was politically useful. Enormously.

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And it wasn't really until the Renaissance. with

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the rise of new humanist scholarship, that the

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bubble finally burst and people started to seriously

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say, OK, maybe Brutus of Troy wasn't a real person.

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So for 400 years, give or take, fiction became

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fact. Yes, for a very long time. But this brings

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us to the modern era. And usually this is the

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part of the deep dive where we say, so modern

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science and archaeology have proved it was all

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fake. But we have a twist. We do. And that twist

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is the Lost Voices of Celtic Britain project.

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This was a study from 2017 led by an archaeologist

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named Miles Russell at Bournemouth University.

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And their findings are fascinating because they

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suggest that Jeffrey wasn't just, you know, hallucinating

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in his study in Oxford. He was doing something

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more technical. Russell argues that Jeffrey was

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acting as a compiler. He wasn't just inventing

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names and events out of thin air. He was taking

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very old, very garbled, mostly oral traditions

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and trying to stitch them together into a coherent

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story. How did they even begin to figure that

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out? How can you prove something like that? They

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did a kind of forensic analysis. They took the

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names and events in Geoffrey's history, specifically

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from the pre -Roman section, and they compared

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them to the archaeological record of the British

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Iron Age. And they found some incredible matches.

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Give us an example. What matched up? Well, Geoffrey

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talks about a whole series of kings who supposedly

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ruled Britain long before the Romans ever showed

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up. For centuries, historians just assumed these

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names were completely made up, pure fantasy.

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But Russell's team compared Geoffrey's list of

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kings to the names that have been found stamped

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on Iron Age coins that archaeologists have dug

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up in southern England. Wait, actual physical

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coins from the first century BC? Yes, exactly.

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And the names matched. Geoffrey lists kings of

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the Kituvalani and the Trunavantes tribes. Let's

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pause on those tribes. Who were they? They sound

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important. They were the superpowers of pre -Roman

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Britain. They controlled most of the southeast,

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what is now modern -day London, Hertfordshire,

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Essex. These were the powerful kingdoms that

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actually fought Julius Caesar when he invaded.

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But after the full Roman conquest in 43 AD, their

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specific history, their king lists, were largely

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forgotten and overwritten by Roman history. But

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somehow, Geoffrey knew their names a thousand

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years later. He did. Which means he must have

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had access to sources, most likely oral traditions,

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bardic poems passed down for generations that

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preserve those names. That is an incredible,

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almost unbelievable thread of continuity. So

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Jeffrey was right. The book is true. Well, this

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is the crucial part. He was right about the names,

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but he was completely wrong about the time. And

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this is the key to understanding Geoffrey's method.

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He had all the puzzle pieces, but he didn't have

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the picture on the box lid. He didn't know the

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chronology. He didn't know what order they came

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in. Exactly. He has a story about a King Casalan

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who fights Julius Caesar. That matches perfectly

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with the historical Casalanus, who we know from

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Caesar's own writings, fought him. So, check.

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But then he has stories about other kings that

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archaeologists know, from coin distributions,

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belong in the 1st century AD or the 3rd century

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AD. He doesn't know where they fit. So what does

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he do with these names without a timeline? He

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smooths it. That's the term Russell uses. Jeffrey

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acts like a modern film editor with hours and

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hours of disjointed footage. He cuts and pastes.

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If he has a 50 -year gap in his timeline and

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he has a random King story that doesn't have

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a date attached to it, he just slots that King

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into the gap to make the story flow. He remixes

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history to create a single linear narrative.

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Precisely. He creates a kind of Frankenstein's

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monster of history. The limbs are real. They're

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based on real historical figures. But he has

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sewn them together in an order and a shape that

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never actually existed in reality. This completely

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changes how I see him. He's not a liar in that

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case. He's a preserver. I mean, if he hadn't

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done this smoothing, if he hadn't turned it into

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this epic blockbuster story, those names, the

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Ketuvallani Kings, they would have been lost

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forever, wouldn't they? That is the great paradox

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of Geoffrey of Monmouth. By corrupting the history,

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he saved it. A dry, confusing list of names would

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have been copied maybe once and then rotted in

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a library. A grand, sweeping saga about King

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Arthur and Merlin gets copied 200 times and translated

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into every language in Europe. Let's talk about

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one specific character where we can really see

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this remixing happening in real time. Merlin.

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Ah, Merlin. This is arguably Jeffrey's greatest

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singular creation. Before Jeffrey, there wasn't

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really a unified character called Merlin. There

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were Welsh legends about a prophet named Merlin,

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and there were other legends about wild men of

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the woods, but Jeffrey is the one who combines

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them. And he didn't just write about him in one

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book. He actually wrote three different works,

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and Merlin is central to at least two of them.

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That's right. He wrote the Prophetiae Merlini,

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the Prophecies of Merlin first, probably before

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1135. And he often inserted this book right into

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the middle of his main history. And what are

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these prophecies like? They are wild. They are

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just a series of obscure, cryptic, almost psychedelic

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images. The boar of Cornwall shall give his aid.

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The dragon of the West shall rise and bite the

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tail of the bear. That kind of thing. So like

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a Nostradamus prediction, vague enough to mean

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anything. Exactly like a political horoscope.

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They were incredibly popular because they were

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so vague you could apply them to any current

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event you wanted. But then years later, around

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1150, Jeffrey writes a long poem called the Vita

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Merlini, The Life of Merlin. OK. And the Merlin

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in this poem is a completely different person

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from the Merlin in the King Arthur story. Right.

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In the Arthur story, the Historia, Merlin is

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the court wizard. He's the political advisor,

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the master strategist, the magical engineer who

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builds Stonehenge. Yes. He's a high status political

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operator. He's at the center of power. But in

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the Vita Merlini. The character is called Merlinus

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Silvestris Merlin of the Woods. The wild man.

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The wild man. He's a crazed, grief -stricken

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old man who lives as an outcast in the Caledonian

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forest in Scotland. He's not building castles.

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He's talking to wolves and weeping about the

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futility of war. He has basically gone mad from

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the trauma of what he's seen on the battlefield.

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That is a much darker, much more human character.

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Why the discrepancy? Why would he write two completely

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different versions? It seems that in the years

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between writing the Historia and the Vita, Geoffrey

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discovered new source material. He likely came

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across the separate northern British traditions

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of a wild prophet named Laeloken or Merdenweldt

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in Welsh. And he realized his first version was

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incomplete. He realized, uh -oh, there is this

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whole other major tradition about a prophet,

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but it doesn't match the powerful court wizard

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I wrote about in my bestseller. He found a continuity

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error in his own literary universe. Exactly.

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So the Vita Merlini is his attempt to fix it.

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It's a synchronization effort. He writes this

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new story where he tries to explain that the

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wild man of the woods is just the court wizard

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later in his life after he suffered a breakdown.

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He's retconning the folklore to make it all fit

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into one single biography. It shows he really

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cared about the canon. He wasn't just throwing

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random stories at the wall. He was trying to

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create a unified field theory of British legend.

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He wanted it to be consistent. And he succeeded

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in the long run. The Merlin we have today, the

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one in T .H. White's The Once and Future King,

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the one in Disney's The Sword in the Stone, is

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a blend of Jeffrey's two distinct versions, the

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wise political tutor and the eccentric nature

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-loving wizard. Speaking of pop culture, the

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legacy here is just immense. We've touched on

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it, but it's worth restating it clearly. Without

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Geoffrey of Monmouth, do we even have King Arthur?

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Not in any form we would recognize. We might

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have had a few obscure references to a soldier

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or warlord named Arthur in some old Welsh poetry,

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but we would not have the king. We wouldn't have

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the grand court, the European conquest, the epic

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romance. He provides the entire narrative framework.

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And the chain reaction from that is just incredible.

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Geoffrey writes his Latin history. Then a poet

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named Weiss translates it into Norman French

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and adds the round table. Right. The round table

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isn't even in Geoffrey's original. Then another

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poet, Leamon, translates that into Middle English.

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Then centuries later, Sir Thomas Mallory compiles

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all these stories into Le Morte d 'Arthur. Then

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in the 20th century, T. E .H. White writes The

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Once and Future King. It is a direct literary

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lineage, and you can argue it goes even further.

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A show like Game of Thrones, the whole idea of

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a complex pseudo -historical struggle for a throne

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that involves magic, prophecies, and dragons,

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that narrative DNA goes straight back to Geoffrey

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of Monmouth. There is even a brilliant little

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nod to him in the BBC series Merlin from a few

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years back, isn't there? Yes. The character Geoffrey

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of Monmouth is the court librarian and historian

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in Camelot. It's a lovely, very clever meta joke

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by the writers, acknowledging that he is, in

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essence, the keeper of all these stories. So

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as we wrap this up, I'm left thinking about the

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nature of history itself. We started this deep

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dive by asking if he was a liar or a historian.

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And I think we found he is a bit of both and

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maybe something else entirely. He's a storyteller.

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I mean, we live in an age now where we have access

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to so much data. We can look up the carbon dating

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of an Iron Age hill fort. We can see the truth

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in its driest, most fragmented form. We can.

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We know the raw facts better than Jeffrey ever

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could have. But Jeffrey offered something that

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raw facts can't offer. He offered a narrative.

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He connected the dots and created a single, powerful

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story. That is the enduring power of the Historia.

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A list of dates is just data. A story about a

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noble king who rises, unites his people, conquers

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his enemies, and then tragically falls. That

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is meaning. Geoffrey understood that nations

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need meaning. They need a story to tell themselves

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about where they come from, even if that origin

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story is partly invented. He gave Britain a soul,

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in a way, even if he had to borrow that soul

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from ancient Troy. He held up a mirror to the

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people of 12th century Britain. And even though

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the reflection was enhanced, you know, made taller,

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stronger, more heroic than reality, they looked

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into it and they liked what they saw. They decided

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to believe the story because the story made them

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feel like they mattered on the world stage. So

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the final provocative thought for you to take

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away today is this. In your own life, or in how

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you view the world, how much do you value the

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messy, broken, unconnected facts? And how much

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do you crave that smooth narrative? the story

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that makes sense of it all, even if, like Jeffrey's

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ancient book, some of the connections are a little

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bit creative. It's the age -old choice between

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the truth and the legend. As they say in that

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old John Ford Western, the man who shot Liberty

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Valance, when legend becomes fact, print the

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legend. Jeffrey of Monmouth printed the legend.

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He certainly did. Thanks for diving deep with

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us today. My pleasure. We'll catch you on the

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next one.
