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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. We are doing something

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a little different today. Usually we look at

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things out there, you know, history, technology,

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economics. But today we're kind of turning the

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lens inward. Way inward. Yeah, we are tackling

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a figure who is, I think it's fair to say, one

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of the most important, but maybe also the most

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intimidating thinkers of the 20th century. We

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are talking about Edmund. hustle intimidating

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is definitely the word i mean if you walk into

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a philosophy library and you pull a book like

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logical investigations or god forbid ideas pertaining

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to a pure phenomenology off the shelf right your

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first instinct is probably to just slide it right

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back in the language is so dense the sentences

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go on for like a full page and the concepts feel

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incredibly abstract. I've heard his work described

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as mathematics for the soul, which, you know,

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frankly, sounds like a complete nightmare for

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anyone who struggled with algebra. It really

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can feel that way. But the irony, and this is,

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I think, what we really need to land on today,

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is that Husserl's entire mission, the whole reason

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he wrote thousands of these impossible to read

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pages, was to get us back to simplicity. Simplicity.

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That feels... counterintuitive it does but his

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goal was to strip away all the complex theories

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all the scientific baggage and just look to look

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at the world as it actually appears to us I've

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also seen him described not just as a philosopher,

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but as a radical scientist of the mind. That

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is the perfect description. And radical is the

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key word there. He wasn't just trying to, you

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know, tweak psychology or something. He was trying

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to rebuild all of human knowledge from the ground

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up. Because when we think of science, we usually

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think of test tubes, telescopes, measuring things,

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external things. Objectivity. Right, objectivity.

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But Husserl seemed obsessed with a totally different...

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problem, a problem that sounds really simple,

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but it's actually kind of terrifying when you

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stop and think about it for a second. How do

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we know anything is actually real? Exactly. I

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mean, think about the time he was living in.

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This is a late 19th, early 20th century. You've

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got this massive explosion of scientific objectivity,

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physics, chemistry, biology. They were mapping

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the physical world with this incredible new precision.

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But Husserl looked at all this progress and he

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asked a very, very uncomfortable question. Where

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is the human being in all of this? Right. Like

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you can measure the wavelength of light until

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you're blue in the face, but that doesn't explain

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my actual experience of seeing the color red.

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Precisely. How do we account for the subjective

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experience of the scientist who is doing the

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measuring in the first place? If you strip away

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the conscious mind that's having the experience,

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does the objective world even make sense anymore?

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So he's saying we're building this giant skyscraper

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of science on a foundation that we don't understand

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at all. Which is our own conscious life. That's

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it. It's the classic if a tree falls in the forest

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question, but on steroids. On steroids and with

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rigorous mathematical logic applied to it. You

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got it. And that is what we're going to unpack

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today. We've got a massive stack of sources here,

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extensive biographical records, his major works

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like Logical Investigations, Ideas, and his later

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stuff like The Crisis of European Sciences, plus

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accounts of his very dramatic and frankly tragic

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personal life. And we're going to get into how

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he went from being a mathematician to a philosopher,

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how he founded this whole school of thought called

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phenomenology. And yeah, the incredibly high

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personal stakes of his later years. We have to.

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The drama is a huge part of the story. The rise

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of the Nazis, his, well, his betrayal by his

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star student, Martin Heidegger. It's not just

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abstract theory. It's a tragedy. A Shakespearean

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tragedy, it sounds like. It really is. But let's

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start at the beginning. You mentioned he started

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in math. And I think that's surprising for a

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guy known for studying feelings or consciousness.

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You expect a poet, not a calculator. Well, it

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is absolutely essential to understanding it.

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If you don't get the math part, you don't really

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get hustle. So Edmund Hussle was born in 1859

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in Prusnitz -Moravia, which was part of the Austrian

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Empire back then. Okay. He was born into a Jewish

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family. He was the second of four kids. And his

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father was a milliner. A hat maker. A hat maker.

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Yeah. Or practical trade. And I think that's

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interesting because Husserl wasn't, you know,

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born into the high aristocracy of German academia.

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He came from a background of making things, of

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practical, solid reality. But his mind. His mind

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was somewhere else entirely. It was in the stars.

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His early academic path was strictly hard sciences.

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He went to the University of Leipzig, then Berlin,

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studying mathematics, physics, and astronomy.

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So he wasn't sitting around in cafes discussing

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the meaning of life. He was crunching numbers.

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He was crunching numbers at the highest possible

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level. I mean, look at who his mentor was, Karl

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Weierstrass. I remember that name from the briefing.

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For those of us who haven't touched a calculus

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textbook in, let's say, a decade or two, remind

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us who Weierstrass is. He is essentially the

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father of modern analysis. Before Weierstrass,

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calculus was a bit... Lucy goosey. You know,

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people played fast and loose with concepts like

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infinitesimals. Wierstrass was the guy who came

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in and brought absolute ironclad, rigorous logic

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to calculus. He was all about precision, definition,

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removing any ambiguity whatsoever. So Husserl

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is trained in this environment where there is

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a right answer, a wrong answer, and a logical

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proof for everything. There's no room for, well,

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that's just, you know, your opinion, man. None.

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Zero. He is a logic nerd through and through.

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He gets his PhD in mathematics in 1883. But here's

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the pivot. While he's in Leipzig, he starts wandering

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into some philosophy lectures just for fun. And

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then later in Vienna, he attends lectures by

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a man named Franz Brentano. Brentano. Okay, this

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is a name that keeps popping up in the history

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of psychology and philosophy. He was a force

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of nature. Brentano was this former Catholic

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priest who had left the church because he couldn't

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accept the doctrine of papal infallibility. Wow.

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So he was intense, he was charismatic, and he

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was teaching this new idea of descriptive psychology.

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He believed you could study the mind with scientific

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rigor. So you've got Wierstrass on one shoulder,

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the cold, rigid logician, and then you have Brentano

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on the other, the fiery, passionate psychologist.

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And poor Husserl is stuck right in the middle.

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Brentano is the one who plants the seed in his

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mind. What if we could be just as rigorous about

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consciousness as we are about math? What if we

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could find the fundamental laws of the mind?

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And that attempt to bridge that gap, that leads

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to his first big, well, his first big farrier,

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right? Or at least his first big rethink, his

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book, The Philosophy of Arithmetic. Yes, published

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in 1891. This was his first major attempt to

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square that circle. And frankly, looking back,

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it was a bit of a disaster. He tried to explain

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mathematics psychologically. He wanted to figure

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out how does the mind actually count? OK, let

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me unpack this, because to me, counting just

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seems like something we do. I see three apples

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on the table. I say three. Why is that a deep

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philosophical problem? Because Husserl was fascinated

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by the mechanism of it. He made this distinction

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between what he called proper and improper presentation.

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Proper and improper. It sounds like table manners.

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Don't use the improper fork for your salad. Eh,

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not quite. Think of it more in terms of direct

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versus indirect. Let's say you're standing in

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front of a house. You're looking right at it

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with your own eyes. You have a proper presentation

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of the house. It's there, physically present

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to your senses. You're experiencing houseness

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directly. Okay, got it. Direct experience. But

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now, let's say you're looking for a friend's

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house, and all you have is the address. written

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on a piece of paper, 123 Maple Street. You are

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thinking about the house. You're trying to find

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the house. But the house itself isn't present

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to you. You're using a symbol, signs, words,

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numbers, to point to something that isn't here.

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That is an improper presentation. I see. So the

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address is like a pointer. It's not the thing

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itself. It's just a pointer. And Husserl realized

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that... Most of mathematics is improper in this

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sense. When we talk about the number 1 ,000 or

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1 billion, we aren't actually visualizing 1 billion

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individual dots in our heads. No, of course not.

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Our brains can't hold that. Right. We're using

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a symbol. We're manipulating signs that stand

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in for that quantity. And Husserl tried to read

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all of this in psychology. in how the brain groups

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things together and performs these mental acts

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to create these concepts. So he publishes this

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book. He's feeling pretty good about it. He thinks

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he solved the puzzle of math by explaining it

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through brain processes. And then the sledgehammer

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drops. The sledgehammer named Gottlob Friege.

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I love that name, Gottlob Friege. It sounds like

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a villain in a silent movie or something. To

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Husserl at the time, he probably felt like one.

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Frege was this brilliant logician who wrote a

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review of Husserl's book. And it wasn't just

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a bad review. I mean, it was a complete demolition.

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Ouch. Frege essentially said, Edmund, you are

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a very smart man, but you have made a catastrophic

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error. And what was that error? Psychologism.

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That's the technical term for it. Frege argued

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that if mathematics is just psychology, if it's

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just how the human brain happens to count, then...

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math becomes subjective. It becomes relative.

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Wait, I want to make sure I get this. Because

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my brain works pretty much like your brain. So

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wouldn't our math be the same? It still feels

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objective to me. Maybe. But what if we encountered

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an alien species and their brains were, I don't

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know, silicon -based and wired completely differently?

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Would 2 plus 2 still equal 4 for them? Wow. Yes,

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of course it would. 2 plus 2 is 4. It doesn't

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matter who or what is doing the counting. Exactly.

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That was Frege's entire point. Yeah. But if Husserl

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was right, and math is just a biological process

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of the human brain, then math is contingent on

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our specific biology. If the human species died

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out, the number four would cease to exist, Preach

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said. No, the number five is an objective fact.

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It is an eternal truth. It isn't a brain state

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any more than the planet Jupiter is a brain state.

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That is a heavy, heavy hit. Because if Husserl

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is right, then truth itself is just a matter

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of opinion or, you know, biology. And that leads

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directly to skepticism. If truth is just how

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we happen to think, then there is no absolute

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truth. There's just my truth and your truth and

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the alien's truth. And Hussle, at his core, was

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a man who believed in absolute truth. He took

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this criticism incredibly seriously. So this

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is the crisis point. Most people, I think, would

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probably double down and defend their books.

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They'd write an angry letter back saying, you

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just don't get it, Frege. But Hussle didn't do

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that. No. And that is the mark of his profound

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intellectual honesty. He went silent. He barely

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published anything for nearly a decade. He went

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back to the drawing board entirely. He realized

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he had made a huge mistake. He needed a way to

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save the objectivity of logic but without just

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ignoring the mind that perceives it. Yet to thread

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an impossible needle. He had to invent a completely

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new way of seeing. And this leads to his great

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breakthrough work around 1900, The Logical Investigations.

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He completely reverses his position. He starts

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arguing that logical laws are ideal, they're

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objective, they exist independently of the human

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mind, almost like platonic forms. But wait, if

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they exist outside the mind, then how do we access

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them? Isn't he just back to being a pure mathematician

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again, ignoring the mind? Ah, that's the brilliance

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of his pivot. He decides that we need a new way

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to study the mind itself, not as a biological

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organ that creates fuzzy subjective logic, but

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as the instrument that is capable of grasping

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these ideal objective truths. Oh, he changes

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the question. He completely changes the question.

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He stops asking, how does the brain create logic?

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And he starts asking, how does consciousness

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experience logic? And this, my friend, is the

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birth of phenomenology. Okay, cue the dramatic

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music. This is the big moment. He invents a science

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of essences. A vis and season shaft. I am definitely

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not going to try to pronounce that. But let's

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get into the how, because this is where Husserl

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goes from being a math nerd to a radical scientist.

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He says we have to start by moving beyond something

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he calls the natural attitude. Yes, the natural

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attitude. I love this term. It sounds like something

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a teenager has. You'd better lose that attitude.

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But what did Husserl mean by it? The natural

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attitude is our default mode of existence. It's

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how you and I and everyone listening goes through

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99 .9 % of our day. We just assume the world

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is out there. This microphone is real. The table

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is real. The traffic outside is real. We take

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it for granted. Completely. We assume we are

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just biological entities moving through a pre

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-existing physical space. We assume that our

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perception just passively mirrors reality. We

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don't question how the world is appearing to

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us. We just accept that it is. It's being on

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autopilot. It's like being in the Matrix before

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you take the red pill. You just accept the simulation

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as reality because you don't know anything else.

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That's a great analogy. Husserl says that for

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the practical business of living our lives, the

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natural attitude is fine. You need it to drive

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a car or make a sandwich. But for a philosopher

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or for anyone who wants to find real foundational

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truth, it's fatal. Because it takes everything

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for granted. Exactly. If we want to really know

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what's true, we have to suspend that attitude.

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We have to stop just assuming the world exists

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out there and turn our gaze inward to look at

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the experience itself. And this brings us to

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the famous toolkit. If we're going to do this

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phenomenology, what are the tools we need? The

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first big one is something he got from Brentano,

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right? Intentionality. Yes, intentionality. This

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is the absolute core, the bedrock of all of phenomenology.

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And we have to be really careful here because

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in everyday English, intentionality means doing

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something on purpose. Right. I intended to go

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to the gym, but then I ate a whole pizza instead.

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I had good intentions. Exactly. In phenomenology,

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intentionality has nothing to do with purpose

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or willpower. It means aboutness. It comes from

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the Latin word intender, which means to aim at

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or to stretch toward. Okay. Hustle and Brentano

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before him realized that the single defining

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feature of consciousness is that it is always

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of something or about something. Can you give

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us a concrete example of that? Sure. Try right

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now to just believe. Don't believe in something.

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Just believe. I can't. My brain immediately asks,

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believe what? I have to believe that it's raining

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or believe that you're right about this. Exactly.

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Or try to fear. You can't just have generic objectless

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fear floating in your head. If you're a spider,

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or you fear failure, or you fear the dark, consciousness

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is like a directional arrow. It is always shooting

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out from you towards an object. You cannot have

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a thought without an object of thought. Okay,

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that makes a lot of sense. My mind isn't just

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an empty bucket. It's always actively grabbing

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onto something or pointing at something. And

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this changes everything. Because it means you

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can't study the mind in a vacuum in isolation,

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like the psychologists wanted to. And you can't

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study the world in a vacuum in isolation, like

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the physicists wanted to. You can only study

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the connection, the intentional arc that links

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the two. So if intentionality is the arrow, what

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is the apache? This is another one of those big

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hustle terms, bracketing. The apache is the specific

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method we use to break out of the natural attitude.

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It comes from an ancient Greek skeptic term meaning

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suspension of judgment. So we just stop judging

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things. We stop judging reality. When we perform

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the apache or when we bracket. the world we don't

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deny that the world exists we aren't saying oh

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nothing is real it's all an illusion that's not

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it at all okay so what are we doing we are just

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setting the question of its reality aside we

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are putting it in brackets just like in a math

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equation where you deal with the stuff in the

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brackets first we're temporarily ignoring the

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question of whether it's really there Walk me

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through this. Let's say I'm looking at this coffee

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cup on the desk right now. How do I bracket it?

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Okay. In the natural attitude, you look at it

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and you think, that is a ceramic cup filled with

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coffee. You assume it has mass, it's made of

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atoms, and that it will fall and smash if I push

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it off the desk. Right. Standard cup stuff. Now

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bracket it. Suspend your belief that the cup

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is a physical object made of atoms. Suspend your

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knowledge of ceramics or gravity or the coffee

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trade. Just focus strictly, and I mean strictly,

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on how it appears to you in your consciousness

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right this very second. Okay. I see a curved

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white shape. I see a dark brown circle inside

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it. I see a grip of light from the overhead lamp

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reflecting on the room. I can smell something

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roasted. Good. Now, can you see the back of the

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cup? No. But you assume it's there. You assume

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it has a back. Yes, of course. In the apache,

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you don't just assume it. You notice that you

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are assuming it. You realize, ah, my consciousness

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is presenting this object to me as a complete

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three -dimensional whole, even though I am only

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ever seeing one two -dimensional side of it at

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a time. So I'm watching my own mind construct

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the object. You're watching the construction

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process. You aren't studying the cup anymore.

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You are studying your experience of the cup.

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So it's about becoming hyper -aware of the experience

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itself rather than the object that's supposedly

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causing the experience. It feels a little like

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meditation or mindfulness. It is very, very similar

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to mindfulness. It's a fundamental shift from

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the what to the how. And once you learn to do

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that, Husserl says, you can perform the phenomenological

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reduction. You can start moving from the specific

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messy fact to the general pure essence. And he

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had a very specific way of getting to that essence,

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right? A kind of mental workout he called eidetic

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variation. This is a fascinating exercise. And

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it's his answer to the question of how we can

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know things for sure without running a scientific

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experiment. Let's try it. The classic example

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is always a triangle, which is a bit easy, but

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let's start there. So imagine a triangle. Okay.

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I'm picturing a triangle in my head. It's an

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isosceles triangle, since you asked. Perfect.

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Now, in your mind, I want you to start varying

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its features. This is the variation part. Make

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one of its sides much longer. Is it still a triangle?

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Yes. Just a weirder looking one. Change its color

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to bright blue. Is it still a triangle? Yes.

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Imagine it's made of wood instead of just being

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a line drawing, still a triangle. Yep. Okay.

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Now add a fourth side to it. No. Now it's a square

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or a rectangle or some kind of quadrilateral.

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It is definitely not a triangle anymore. Exactly.

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Through this eidetic variation, just by playing

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with the features in your imagination, you have

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discovered the essence, the eidos. of a triangle

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you found the invariant feature the thing that

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cannot be changed without destroying the object

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which is having three straight sides that connect

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you stripped away all the non -essentials like

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color material size and you found the core truth

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okay that works for geometry but Husserl wanted

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to do this with everything right with perception

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with justice with love yeah that seems a whole

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lot harder it is much much harder but the method

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is the same Let's try it with something more

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complex. Let's try it with the concept of a promise.

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What is the essence of making a promise? Okay.

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A promise is when I say I'll do something in

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the future. Okay, let's vary it. Imagine you

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say, I promise I will fly to the moon tomorrow

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using only my arms. But you know you can't possibly

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do it. Is that a genuine promise? No, that's

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either a lie or a joke. So sincerity or maybe

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capability has to be part of it. Good. Now imagine

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you say to someone, I promise I'm going to rob

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that bank for you. Is that a valid promise in

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the same way? We'd probably call that a threat

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or a conspiracy, not a promise. A promise feels

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like it should be about something good or at

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least neutral. Ah. So maybe a promise implies

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some kind of benefit to the person being promised,

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or at least that it's not a malevolent act. Maybe.

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Or at least it has to be part of a shared moral

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framework. Okay, one more. Imagine you make a

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promise to yourself. It feels less binding. It's

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more like a resolution. A real promise seems

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to involve another person. See what we are doing

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here. We're crashing the concept against all

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these different imaginary scenarios to see where

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it breaks, to see what its essential components

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are. Husserl believed that if we did this rigorously

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enough for everything, we could map out a kind

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of periodic table of human consciousness. We

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could understand the fundamental essence of law,

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of religion, of art, of everything. That is unbelievably

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ambitious. He wanted to create a complete map

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of the geography of the mind. That's a great

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way to put it. And to do that, to make his map

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more precise, he introduced two more key technical

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terms, noesis and noema. These sound like the

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names of Greek gods or something. They're Greek

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terms. Noesis, from the word nos for mind, is

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the act of thinking so, the perceiving, the judging,

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the remembering, the fearing. It's the inking

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part. Noema is the object of thought, the thing

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that is being perceived or remembered or judged.

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Well, wait a minute. Didn't we just say that

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we've bracketed the object? Yeah. We don't care

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if it's really there. This is the crucial distinction,

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and it's a little tricky. The noema is not the

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physical object out there in the world of atoms

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and molecules. It is the object as it is perceived

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by the mind. Okay. So if I remember a favorite

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toy from my childhood, the physical toy might

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be long gone. It could be in a landfill somewhere,

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totally disintegrated, it doesn't exist anymore.

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But the Noema, the toy, as remembered, with all

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its specific colors and the feelings and meanings

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attached to it, exists perfectly in my consciousness

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right now. The Noema is the meaning object. So

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the noema is like the internal avatar of the

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object, the file for it in my head. That is a

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very good way to put it. It holds the sense of

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the object and it includes all the different

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modes like possible or doubtful or existent.

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If I see a vague figure in the fog, the noesis

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is my act of straining to see. The noema might

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be a possibly scary person. Then I get closer

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and I realize, oh, it's just a tree. The physical

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atoms of the tree didn't change, but the noema

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in my mind shifted dramatically from person to

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tree. This is getting really deep. So he's building

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this massive, intricate, almost architectural

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structure of how the mind builds up reality from

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experience. But then around 1913, in his book

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Ideas, he takes a turn that apparently freaks

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some of his own students out. The transcendental

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turn. Yes. In Ideas, I, as it's known, Husserl,

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goes full on transcendental idealism. He starts

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to argue that the world is actually constituted

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by consciousness. Okay, that sounds trippy. Constituted?

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What does that mean? Like we literally create

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the world with our minds. Is this like the secret

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manifest reality? Hey, no, it's not magic. He's

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not saying you can just close your eyes and wish

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for a Ferrari to appear in your driveway. But

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he did argue that the only way the world has

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any meaning, any structure, any objectivity at

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all is through the structuring activity of what

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he called the transcendental ego. The transcendental

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ego. This isn't Edmund Hussle, the guy with the

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big beard. And it's not host, speaker, the podcaster.

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This is the pure, absolute, anonymous self that

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is the ultimate observer of the world. It's the

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eye that is doing the looking, the center point

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of all experience. And this is where it gets

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super controversial, because if the world depends

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on my eye to exist, that sounds dangerously close

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to solipsism. His students, people like Roman

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Ingarden, started getting very, very nervous.

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They thought, wait a minute, is he saying only

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the mind exists? That the physical world is just

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a dream? Is he becoming a solipsist? Solipsism,

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the ultimate philosophical trap. The idea that

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I am the only conscious being that truly exists

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and everyone and everything else is just a figment

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of my imagination. It's the black hole of philosophy.

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Because if I perform the Apoche and I bracket

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the entire world, and I focus only on my consciousness,

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how do I ever prove that you exist? I can see

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your body. I can hear your voice. But those are

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just phenomena happening in my visual field and

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my auditory field. How do I know there's actually

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a light on? inside your head. That seems like

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a pretty gigantic problem for a guy who's trying

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to explain all of reality. If he can't even prove

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that other people exist, his whole system fails.

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It was a huge problem. Yeah. And Hussle spent

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a lot of his later career wrestling with it,

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particularly in a series of lectures called the

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Cartesian Meditations. He tries to solve the

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problem of other minds. So how does he do it?

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How does he prove that I'm not just a sophisticated

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robot in his dream? He starts from within what

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he calls the sphere of onus. That's my private

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reduced first -person experience. He says, okay,

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within my field of vision, I perceive various

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bodies. I perceive my own body, you know, my

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hands, my legs, which I experience from the inside.

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And I also see your body over there. Okay. But

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I perceive your body differently than I perceive

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a mannequin or a stone. Because I move. Because

00:24:28.359 --> 00:24:30.700
I talk. Because of a process he calls pairing

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or analogy. So I basically project my own experience

00:24:51.869 --> 00:24:55.049
of being an ego onto you. Exactly. I recognize

00:24:55.049 --> 00:24:58.410
you as an alter ego, another I. It's a kind of

00:24:58.410 --> 00:25:01.320
empathy, but it's a structural... perceptual

00:25:01.320 --> 00:25:03.400
empathy. It's not just a feeling. It's a fundamental

00:25:03.400 --> 00:25:05.640
way I constitute the world. So he says we recognize

00:25:05.640 --> 00:25:07.519
the other. We recognize the other. And this is

00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:10.119
the absolute key to solving the problem. Once

00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.299
I recognize that you are another subject, another

00:25:12.299 --> 00:25:14.559
point of view on the world, I realize that the

00:25:14.559 --> 00:25:16.819
world isn't just my world. It is our world. A

00:25:16.819 --> 00:25:19.059
shared reality. Precisely. This is what he calls

00:25:19.059 --> 00:25:22.369
intersubjectivity. The coffee cup is real and

00:25:22.369 --> 00:25:25.049
objective, not because it's atoms exist in some

00:25:25.049 --> 00:25:26.990
void, but because I know that if you were to

00:25:26.990 --> 00:25:28.769
walk over here and look at it from your angle,

00:25:28.869 --> 00:25:30.829
you would see it too, just from a different perspective.

00:25:31.569 --> 00:25:33.930
We triangulate reality between our different

00:25:33.930 --> 00:25:37.470
consciousnesses. Objectivity for Hustle is actually

00:25:37.470 --> 00:25:39.650
just shared subjectivity. That's actually a really

00:25:39.650 --> 00:25:42.109
beautiful idea. Reality is the thing that we

00:25:42.109 --> 00:25:44.210
all agree on because we experience it together.

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It is. But as beautiful and intricate as these

00:25:47.829 --> 00:25:51.730
ideas were, The real objective historical world

00:25:51.730 --> 00:25:54.569
was about to crash in on Husserl in the most

00:25:54.569 --> 00:25:57.329
devastating way possible. And to understand that,

00:25:57.349 --> 00:25:59.009
we have to talk about the shadow of history.

00:25:59.230 --> 00:26:02.470
Yes. We absolutely cannot talk about Husserl

00:26:02.470 --> 00:26:04.390
without talking about the rise of the Nazis and

00:26:04.390 --> 00:26:06.549
specifically his relationship with Martin Heidegger.

00:26:06.630 --> 00:26:08.450
This part of the story feels like a movie plot.

00:26:08.609 --> 00:26:11.130
The master and the apprentice. It really is.

00:26:11.660 --> 00:26:13.640
And to understand the pain of what happened,

00:26:13.759 --> 00:26:15.720
you have to understand the depth of the initial

00:26:15.720 --> 00:26:18.539
relationship. Martin Heidegger wasn't just another

00:26:18.539 --> 00:26:21.380
student. He was the prince. That's what called

00:26:21.380 --> 00:26:24.400
him his phenomenological child. He was the chosen

00:26:24.400 --> 00:26:26.500
one. I read that Husserl didn't have a great

00:26:26.500 --> 00:26:28.619
relationship with his own biological sons. Is

00:26:28.619 --> 00:26:31.779
that right? It was complicated, yes. But Heidegger,

00:26:31.900 --> 00:26:35.319
Heidegger was the heir apparent. He was Husserl's

00:26:35.319 --> 00:26:39.059
personal assistant from 1920 to 1923. Husserl

00:26:39.059 --> 00:26:41.720
absolutely adored him. When Assur retired from

00:26:41.720 --> 00:26:44.099
his chair at the University of Freiburg, he thought

00:26:44.099 --> 00:26:46.079
to make sure that Heidegger was the one who succeeded

00:26:46.079 --> 00:26:48.460
him. He thought, I have built the foundation,

00:26:48.720 --> 00:26:50.880
and Martin will be the one to build the skyscraper.

00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:53.279
And Heidegger seemed to reciprocate that, at

00:26:53.279 --> 00:26:55.920
least at first. Initially, yes. When Heidegger

00:26:55.920 --> 00:26:57.599
published his own philosophical masterpiece,

00:26:58.019 --> 00:27:01.660
Being and Time, in 1927, he dedicated it to Husserl

00:27:01.660 --> 00:27:04.180
in grateful respect and friendship. It was a

00:27:04.180 --> 00:27:06.460
huge public acknowledgement. So what went wrong?

00:27:06.519 --> 00:27:08.480
Where did it all fall apart? Well, first, the

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:11.160
philosophy went wrong. And this is important.

00:27:11.339 --> 00:27:14.180
As Husserl read Being and Time more closely,

00:27:14.380 --> 00:27:17.119
he started to realize that Heidegger wasn't actually

00:27:17.119 --> 00:27:19.220
doing phenomenology the way Husserl intended

00:27:19.220 --> 00:27:22.799
it. How so? Husserl was interested in pure consciousness,

00:27:23.119 --> 00:27:26.119
the transcendental ego, the abstract, timeless

00:27:26.119 --> 00:27:29.359
structures of the mind. But Heidegger, he was

00:27:29.359 --> 00:27:33.259
interested in Dasein, which means roughly. being

00:27:33.259 --> 00:27:35.819
there. He was interested in the concrete, messy,

00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:38.319
anxious experience of being a human being thrown

00:27:38.319 --> 00:27:40.599
into the world facing death. So Heidegger made

00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.460
it gritty. He took the clean, sterile laboratory

00:27:43.460 --> 00:27:45.700
of phenomenology and dragged it out into the

00:27:45.700 --> 00:27:48.019
mud of real life. He did. And Husserl saw this

00:27:48.019 --> 00:27:51.099
as a profound intellectual betrayal. He thought

00:27:51.099 --> 00:27:53.019
Heidegger was slipping back into what he called

00:27:53.019 --> 00:27:56.140
anthropology, just studying humans as a particular

00:27:56.140 --> 00:27:58.619
species of animal rather than studying the pure

00:27:58.619 --> 00:28:01.700
essence of mind itself. For Husserl, it felt

00:28:01.700 --> 00:28:03.900
like a return to the very psychologism he had

00:28:03.900 --> 00:28:06.400
fought so hard to escape. But that intellectual

00:28:06.400 --> 00:28:09.019
betrayal was, in the end, nothing compared to

00:28:09.019 --> 00:28:13.039
the political one. Nothing. 1933. Hitler comes

00:28:13.039 --> 00:28:15.380
to power. Now, we have to remember, Husserl was

00:28:15.380 --> 00:28:17.779
born into a Jewish family. He had converted to

00:28:17.779 --> 00:28:21.039
Lutheranism way back in 1886, and he considered

00:28:21.039 --> 00:28:24.490
himself a fiercely loyal German patriot. He was

00:28:24.490 --> 00:28:27.089
politically conservative. He loved Germany. His

00:28:27.089 --> 00:28:29.730
son, Wolfgang, had been killed in World War I

00:28:29.730 --> 00:28:32.490
fighting for Germany. Another son, Gerhardt,

00:28:32.490 --> 00:28:35.509
had been badly wounded. So he had paid the ultimate

00:28:35.509 --> 00:28:37.250
price for his country. He had given his country

00:28:37.250 --> 00:28:39.990
a son. He had. But to the Nazis, none of that

00:28:39.990 --> 00:28:43.140
mattered. He was just a Jew. In April 1933, the

00:28:43.140 --> 00:28:46.119
new racial laws began to bite. And this is where

00:28:46.119 --> 00:28:48.400
the story gets just heartbreaking. Husserl is

00:28:48.400 --> 00:28:50.900
living in Freiburg, this quiet university town

00:28:50.900 --> 00:28:53.299
he had helped make world famous. And suddenly,

00:28:53.400 --> 00:28:56.000
overnight, he's a pariah. There's a famous story

00:28:56.000 --> 00:28:58.140
about him being banned from the university library.

00:28:58.519 --> 00:29:00.259
We need to be careful with this because there

00:29:00.259 --> 00:29:02.480
are a lot of rumors and there are facts. Did

00:29:02.480 --> 00:29:04.599
Heidegger, his former student who is now a big

00:29:04.599 --> 00:29:06.720
shot at the university, personally ban him from

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.059
the library? Okay. So the records are clear on

00:29:09.059 --> 00:29:11.059
this. Husserl was banned from using the University

00:29:11.059 --> 00:29:14.759
of Freiburg Library in April of 1933. This was

00:29:14.759 --> 00:29:16.539
done by the university administration applying

00:29:16.539 --> 00:29:19.640
the new state laws. It was a blanket ban on all

00:29:19.640 --> 00:29:23.420
non -Aryan faculty. Right. Now, there was a huge

00:29:23.420 --> 00:29:26.660
public outcry from abroad. Husserl was a global

00:29:26.660 --> 00:29:28.900
figure, and the ban was actually rescinded about

00:29:28.900 --> 00:29:32.599
a week later. But the damage was done. The insult

00:29:32.599 --> 00:29:35.299
was profound. He wrote in a letter that he felt

00:29:35.299 --> 00:29:37.559
he had been struck directly in the heart. And

00:29:37.559 --> 00:29:39.359
where was Heidegger in all of this? What was

00:29:39.359 --> 00:29:41.359
his role? Well, Heidegger was elected rector

00:29:41.359 --> 00:29:43.420
of the university just a few weeks later, at

00:29:43.420 --> 00:29:47.339
the end of April 1933. And on May 1st, Heidegger

00:29:47.339 --> 00:29:50.460
officially joined the Nazi party. Oof. It gets

00:29:50.460 --> 00:29:53.000
worse. While there is no direct evidence that

00:29:53.000 --> 00:29:54.779
Heidegger personally signed the order banning

00:29:54.779 --> 00:29:57.400
Husserl from the library, his silence is damning.

00:29:57.929 --> 00:30:01.029
He was now the rector. He's the boss. He did

00:30:01.029 --> 00:30:02.950
nothing to stop the notsification of the university.

00:30:03.170 --> 00:30:04.829
He didn't visit Husserl. He didn't write a letter

00:30:04.829 --> 00:30:07.089
saying, Edmund, my old friend, I'm sorry, my

00:30:07.089 --> 00:30:09.650
hands are tied. He just goosted him. That's a

00:30:09.650 --> 00:30:12.269
very specific kind of cruelty, isn't it? It's

00:30:12.269 --> 00:30:14.470
the banality of evil right there in the university

00:30:14.470 --> 00:30:16.650
hallway, just looking the other way. And then,

00:30:16.670 --> 00:30:18.430
of course, there's the matter of the book dedication.

00:30:18.710 --> 00:30:22.539
In being in time. Right. The 1927 edition had

00:30:22.539 --> 00:30:25.019
that glowing dedication to Husserl. But in the

00:30:25.019 --> 00:30:27.359
1941 edition, published during the height of

00:30:27.359 --> 00:30:30.680
the war. Let me guess. It's gone. The dedication

00:30:30.680 --> 00:30:33.380
page was removed. It just wasn't there. Now,

00:30:33.400 --> 00:30:35.140
after the war, the publisher claimed this was

00:30:35.140 --> 00:30:37.099
done to avoid the book being banned entirely

00:30:37.099 --> 00:30:39.740
by the Nazi authorities. And it's true that a

00:30:39.740 --> 00:30:41.480
footnote acknowledging Husserl remained deep

00:30:41.480 --> 00:30:45.059
inside the text. But the symbolism is just stark

00:30:45.059 --> 00:30:47.559
and horrifying. The student erasing the teacher

00:30:47.559 --> 00:30:49.500
from the public record. And so Husserl was just.

00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.420
Isolated. Completely. He resigned from the Deutsch

00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:57.000
Academy in 1933. He just sat in his home in Freiburg,

00:30:57.099 --> 00:31:00.059
completely ostracized by the very academic community

00:31:00.059 --> 00:31:02.039
he had helped to build. We have letters from

00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.500
him during this time. He sounds utterly heartbroken.

00:31:04.559 --> 00:31:07.119
He talks about the complete social vacuum around

00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:09.819
him. Former colleagues and students would literally

00:31:09.819 --> 00:31:11.759
cross the street to avoid having to say hello

00:31:11.759 --> 00:31:13.900
to him. But he didn't stop working. And this

00:31:13.900 --> 00:31:16.259
leads to one of the most incredible stories in

00:31:16.259 --> 00:31:19.000
the entire history of philosophy, the rescue

00:31:19.000 --> 00:31:21.700
of his manuscripts. Because when he died in 1938,

00:31:22.079 --> 00:31:24.900
he left behind a mountain of paper. A literal

00:31:24.900 --> 00:31:28.279
mountain. 40 ,000 pages of unpublished notes,

00:31:28.500 --> 00:31:31.180
manuscripts, and lectures. And it wasn't just

00:31:31.180 --> 00:31:33.759
regular writing. He wrote almost everything in

00:31:33.759 --> 00:31:37.319
Gabelsberger stenography, an obsolete, very difficult

00:31:37.319 --> 00:31:39.539
form of German shorthand. So it was basically

00:31:39.539 --> 00:31:42.420
written in code. To the untrained eye, yes. It

00:31:42.420 --> 00:31:44.539
looks like chicken scratch. And with the Nazis

00:31:44.539 --> 00:31:46.799
in power, these manuscripts were in grave danger

00:31:46.799 --> 00:31:48.960
of being seized and destroyed. They were Jewish

00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.279
writings. If the Gestapo ever found them, they

00:31:51.279 --> 00:31:53.859
would have been burned. Enter Herman van Breda.

00:31:53.960 --> 00:31:56.039
The hero of the story. The absolute hero. He

00:31:56.039 --> 00:31:58.200
was a young Franciscan priest from Belgium, a

00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:01.599
PhD student, just 27 years old. He came to Freiburg

00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:04.579
in 1938, hoping to study Husserl's papers for

00:32:04.579 --> 00:32:07.240
his dissertation. When he arrived, he found Husserl's

00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:10.430
widow. Malvin, living in constant fear. He immediately

00:32:10.430 --> 00:32:12.829
realized the danger the papers were in, and he

00:32:12.829 --> 00:32:14.890
decided on the spot, I have to get these out

00:32:14.890 --> 00:32:17.710
of Germany. A Catholic priest smuggling banned

00:32:17.710 --> 00:32:20.549
philosophy papers out of Nazi Germany. That is

00:32:20.549 --> 00:32:23.769
a movie waiting to happen. It truly is. This

00:32:23.769 --> 00:32:27.670
was late 1938, early 1939. War was imminent.

00:32:28.369 --> 00:32:31.009
Van Breda used his status as a priest and a foreigner.

00:32:31.170 --> 00:32:33.509
He got the Belgian embassy involved to create

00:32:33.509 --> 00:32:37.150
a diplomatic pouch. He packed the 40 ,000 pages

00:32:37.150 --> 00:32:39.809
of manuscripts plus Husserl's entire personal

00:32:39.809 --> 00:32:42.529
library into suitcases and trunks and smuggled

00:32:42.529 --> 00:32:44.809
them across the border to Leuven in Belgium.

00:32:45.009 --> 00:32:47.750
He even smuggled Malvin Husserl out to safety

00:32:47.750 --> 00:32:50.750
in a convent. He established the Husserl archives

00:32:50.750 --> 00:32:53.579
in Leuven where they are today. If it were not

00:32:53.579 --> 00:32:55.799
for Father Van Breda, we would have lost the

00:32:55.799 --> 00:32:58.019
vast majority of Husserl's life's work. It would

00:32:58.019 --> 00:32:59.839
have gone up in smoke. That is just incredible.

00:32:59.920 --> 00:33:02.000
And it's a very good thing they were saved. Because

00:33:02.000 --> 00:33:04.119
Husserl's final work, the stuff he was writing

00:33:04.119 --> 00:33:06.259
in those dark, isolated years, was some of his

00:33:06.259 --> 00:33:09.140
most important and influential, The Crisis of

00:33:09.140 --> 00:33:11.839
European Sciences. Yes, published in 1936 in

00:33:11.839 --> 00:33:13.119
Belgrade, because of course he couldn't publish

00:33:13.119 --> 00:33:15.480
in Germany anymore. This is Husserl in his late

00:33:15.480 --> 00:33:18.000
70s, looking at a Europe that is tearing itself

00:33:18.000 --> 00:33:20.720
apart at the seams. And he asks us a fundamental

00:33:20.720 --> 00:33:24.140
question. Why has science failed us? Which is

00:33:24.140 --> 00:33:26.819
a bold question to ask. Considering science was

00:33:26.819 --> 00:33:29.099
advancing more rapidly than ever, we were splitting

00:33:29.099 --> 00:33:31.660
the atom, building airplanes, inventing radio.

00:33:32.119 --> 00:33:34.160
But Husserl argued that science had become too

00:33:34.160 --> 00:33:37.299
abstract. It had lost its way. It had forgotten

00:33:37.299 --> 00:33:40.839
its roots. And this brings us to his final great

00:33:40.839 --> 00:33:45.640
concept, the life world. Lee Levenswelt. Lee

00:33:45.640 --> 00:33:48.099
Levenswelt. Now, this is the concept that feels,

00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:51.359
to me, the most relevant to us today. What is

00:33:51.359 --> 00:33:53.859
it? The life world is the world of immediate

00:33:53.859 --> 00:33:57.480
pre -scientific lived experience. It is the world

00:33:57.480 --> 00:33:59.259
we actually live in before we start applying

00:33:59.259 --> 00:34:01.799
formulas and theories to it. It's the world of

00:34:01.799 --> 00:34:04.259
colors and textures and relationships and hunger

00:34:04.259 --> 00:34:06.299
and love and disappointment. So it's kind of

00:34:06.299 --> 00:34:08.559
like the natural attitude world again. Yes, but

00:34:08.559 --> 00:34:10.889
viewed with a newfound respect. In his early

00:34:10.889 --> 00:34:12.670
work, he wanted to bracket the life world to

00:34:12.670 --> 00:34:15.449
get to the pure essences. In his late work, he

00:34:15.449 --> 00:34:17.650
realized that objective science, physics, chemistry,

00:34:17.849 --> 00:34:20.349
geometry is actually built upon the life world.

00:34:20.409 --> 00:34:22.269
It grows out of it. Well, think about something

00:34:22.269 --> 00:34:25.250
as abstract as geometry. It didn't just fall

00:34:25.250 --> 00:34:27.969
from the sky in a perfect logical form. It started

00:34:27.969 --> 00:34:30.809
with ancient land surveyors in Egypt measuring

00:34:30.809 --> 00:34:33.989
actual fields of mud and grass along the Nile.

00:34:34.380 --> 00:34:37.039
It started with carpenters and builders. It started

00:34:37.039 --> 00:34:40.280
in the messy practical life world. Then over

00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:43.719
centuries, we abstracted it into pure ideal formulas.

00:34:43.980 --> 00:34:46.679
So the abstract formula always comes from the

00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:49.659
messy lived reality. Exactly. But Hussle said

00:34:49.659 --> 00:34:52.039
we've forgotten that. We have started to think

00:34:52.039 --> 00:34:54.480
that the formula is the only reality and that

00:34:54.480 --> 00:34:57.179
our messy lived experience is just a kind of.

00:34:57.960 --> 00:35:00.559
illusion, or a source of error. He called this

00:35:00.559 --> 00:35:03.360
the surreptitious substitution. We have substituted

00:35:03.360 --> 00:35:06.159
the map for the territory. And when you do that,

00:35:06.239 --> 00:35:08.940
science loses its meaning for actual human life.

00:35:09.099 --> 00:35:11.340
Right. Think about modern medicine. You go to

00:35:11.340 --> 00:35:13.420
the doctor because you're in pain. That is your

00:35:13.420 --> 00:35:15.699
life world reality. It hurts when I breathe.

00:35:15.880 --> 00:35:17.719
That's real. That's as real as it gets for me.

00:35:17.860 --> 00:35:21.019
But the doctor looks at the MRI scan, the chart,

00:35:21.159 --> 00:35:23.989
the blood work numbers. If all the numbers on

00:35:23.989 --> 00:35:26.349
the chart say you are fine, the doctor might

00:35:26.349 --> 00:35:28.010
be tempted to say there's nothing wrong with

00:35:28.010 --> 00:35:31.050
you. Gaslighting by science. The data says you're

00:35:31.050 --> 00:35:34.329
fine, so therefore your pain isn't real. Exactly.

00:35:34.889 --> 00:35:37.489
Husserl saw this coming a mile away. He said

00:35:37.489 --> 00:35:39.789
we have let what he called the garment of ideas,

00:35:40.070 --> 00:35:43.190
the math, the charts, the data, completely cover

00:35:43.190 --> 00:35:45.110
up and replace the living body of experience.

00:35:45.489 --> 00:35:48.500
We trust the map more than the territory. And

00:35:48.500 --> 00:35:51.360
in the 1930s, he saw where this leads politically.

00:35:51.760 --> 00:35:54.219
If you start to see human beings as just data

00:35:54.219 --> 00:35:56.639
points, as just biological variables to be managed,

00:35:56.739 --> 00:35:59.519
it becomes very, very easy to manipulate them

00:35:59.519 --> 00:36:02.219
or to delete them if they don't fit the model.

00:36:02.320 --> 00:36:04.880
That is absolutely chilling because if I'm just

00:36:04.880 --> 00:36:06.739
a data set, I don't have rights. I just have

00:36:06.739 --> 00:36:09.039
variables that can be optimized. And that is

00:36:09.039 --> 00:36:11.159
why he wrote The Crisis. He wasn't just trying

00:36:11.159 --> 00:36:13.780
to fix some obscure problem in philosophy. He

00:36:13.780 --> 00:36:15.760
was trying to save European civilization from

00:36:15.760 --> 00:36:19.539
its own cold calculus. objectifying logic. He

00:36:19.539 --> 00:36:21.880
wanted to re -inject the human soul back into

00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:24.440
the scientific machine. He wanted to ground reason

00:36:24.440 --> 00:36:27.099
back in the Levin's world in shared human experience.

00:36:27.719 --> 00:36:30.840
That is a powerful, powerful message. And it

00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:34.099
feels so relevant today with algorithms and big

00:36:34.099 --> 00:36:37.099
data basically running everything. We are constantly

00:36:37.099 --> 00:36:39.599
being told what we like, who we are, and what

00:36:39.599 --> 00:36:42.119
is true by these black box algorithms. Extremely

00:36:42.119 --> 00:36:44.539
relevant. And that is a huge part of his massive

00:36:44.539 --> 00:36:46.440
legacy. Let's talk about that legacy. We still

00:36:46.440 --> 00:36:49.019
got some time left. Who did Husserl influence?

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It seems like pretty much everyone in 20th century

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thought. It is a massive and incredibly diverse

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family tree. I mean, first you have the existentialists.

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Jean -Paul Sartre. Sartre was a young man when

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he read Husserl, and it completely blew his mind.

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There's a famous story of him sitting in a cafe

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in Paris, and his friend Raymond Aron tells him,

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you see, if you are a phenomenologist, you can

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do philosophy about this cocktail. And Sartre

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apparently turned pale with excitement. Because

00:37:15.460 --> 00:37:17.760
he realized he could analyze the experience of

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the cocktail. The cocktail as perceived. Exactly.

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Sartre basically took Husserl's method. described

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the lived experience, and he applied it to freedom,

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to anxiety, to what he called the look of the

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other person. But he stripped out the transcendental

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ego. Sartre didn't believe in some pure, abstract

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self. He famously believed that existence precedes

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essence. And then there's Simone de Beauvoir.

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She took that same method and applied it to gender.

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She asked, what is the lived experience of being

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a woman in this society? Not the biology, not

00:37:48.000 --> 00:37:50.659
the theory, but the experience. And that investigation

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led directly to her monumental book, The Second

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Sex. And what about in ethics? You mentioned

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Emmanuel Levinas. Levinas was actually a student

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of Husserl's in Freiburg. He was deeply influenced

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by that whole idea of recognizing the other and

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intersubjectivity. But Levinas took it in a radical

00:38:06.980 --> 00:38:09.320
new direction. He said, the face of the other

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person makes an absolute ethical demand on us.

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Before we even think, before any philosophy,

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we are fundamentally responsible for the other.

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He shifted the focus of phenomenology from knowledge

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or epistemology to pure ethics. And we can't

00:38:23.510 --> 00:38:25.650
forget the most unlikely one, Pope John Paul

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II. Yes. Before he was pope, he was a serious

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philosopher. He wrote his doctoral thesis and

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a major book called The Acting Person, where

00:38:36.010 --> 00:38:38.650
he tried to synthesize traditional Catholic Thomism

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with Husserlian phenomenology. He was fascinated

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by the subjective experience of the moral agent

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who was making a choice. So you have a direct

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line from Husserl's study in Freiburg right to

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the Vatican. And finally, what about someone

00:38:50.289 --> 00:38:53.409
like Jacques Derrida, the father of deconstruction?

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Derrida is a fascinating case. He literally started

00:38:56.699 --> 00:38:59.519
his career by translating and writing a long,

00:38:59.559 --> 00:39:01.559
critical introduction to one of Husserl's minor

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works. His entire idea of deconstruction actually

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began as a way of taking apart Husserl's ideas

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about presence and meaning and speech. You really

00:39:10.159 --> 00:39:12.670
cannot understand postmodernism. without understanding

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the hustle that it is constantly reacting against.

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It's just amazing this guy who started out as

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a math nerd in Moravia ended up shaping everything

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from Catholic theology to French atheism to postmodernism.

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And even cognitive science today. The debates

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we are having right now about artificial intelligence.

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Can a computer ever truly be conscious? These

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are fundamentally Husserlian debates. How so?

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Well, look at something like ChatGPT. It can

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process syntax with incredible skill. It can

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manipulate symbols. It can give you a perfect,

00:39:39.610 --> 00:39:42.170
improper presentation of a house. You know, a

00:39:42.170 --> 00:39:45.010
text description. But does it have a proper presentation?

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Does it have a living swell? Yeah. Does it feel

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the warmth of the coffee cup or see the redness

00:39:49.829 --> 00:39:52.730
of the sunset? No. It's just predicting the next

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most probable word in a sequence. Hustle would

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say. If it has no life world, it has no meaning.

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It's just syntax without semantics. It's the

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old Chinese room argument. It can simulate thinking

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perfectly, but it isn't thinking because there

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is no intentionality, no I that is directing

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the arrow of consciousness toward a world. So

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Husserl saves us from the robots, too. Maybe.

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Or at least he gives us the vocabulary to understand

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why we are fundamentally different from them.

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So as we wrap up here, let's try to summarize

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this incredible journey. We went from the rigid

00:40:24.659 --> 00:40:28.159
objective logic of math to the fluid first -person

00:40:28.159 --> 00:40:30.539
exploration of consciousness, from the solitary

00:40:30.539 --> 00:40:33.219
ego to the shared world, from the heights of

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academic fame to the absolute tragedy of the

00:40:35.519 --> 00:40:37.800
Nazi era. It's a journey of trying to find a

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firm footing in a world that was falling apart.

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Husserl lived in a time when everything was being

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thrown into question. Traditional religion was

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fading for many, science was exploding, but also

00:40:47.719 --> 00:40:50.300
becoming dehumanizing, and politics was becoming

00:40:50.300 --> 00:40:53.679
terrifyingly radical. He wanted to find a place

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to stand, a point of absolute certainty. And

00:40:57.500 --> 00:40:59.559
he found it not in the stars or in old books

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or in God, but in the undeniable reality of the

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structure of consciousness itself. To the things

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themselves. That was his famous motto, right?

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Don't rely on theories. Don't rely on assumptions.

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Just look. Look at the experiences it's given

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to you. So what's the so what for our listener

00:41:16.289 --> 00:41:18.889
today? Why should someone driving to work or

00:41:18.889 --> 00:41:21.949
doing the dishes care about transcendental phenomenology?

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I think the so what is about reclaiming your

00:41:24.210 --> 00:41:27.469
own experience. We live in an age of data overload.

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We are constantly being told what is real by

00:41:30.889 --> 00:41:34.389
algorithms, by news feeds, by scientific studies

00:41:34.389 --> 00:41:36.210
that contradict each other every other week.

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We are told our feelings are just chemicals in

00:41:38.769 --> 00:41:40.809
our brain. Our choices are just the result of

00:41:40.809 --> 00:41:42.920
our conditioning. Yeah, it's very easy to feel

00:41:42.920 --> 00:41:45.840
like you are just a cog in a machine, a spectator

00:41:45.840 --> 00:41:47.760
in your own life whose experience doesn't really

00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.519
count unless it can be measured. And Hussle's

00:41:50.519 --> 00:41:53.500
work is a powerful reminder that everything starts

00:41:53.500 --> 00:41:55.800
with the subjective experience. The scientific

00:41:55.800 --> 00:41:58.699
data means nothing without a consciousness there

00:41:58.699 --> 00:42:01.360
to interpret it. The algorithm doesn't exist

00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:04.280
without the human mind that built it. Phenomenology

00:42:04.280 --> 00:42:06.380
is a way of saying my first person experience

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matters. It is not an illusion. It is the foundation

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of all truth. It restores a fundamental dignity

00:42:13.139 --> 00:42:16.400
to your perspective on the world. That's a very

00:42:16.400 --> 00:42:19.019
empowering thought. It's a kind of defense of

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humanity in an increasingly mechanical world.

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Absolutely. It's giving yourself permission to

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trust your own eyes again. I want to leave the

00:42:25.300 --> 00:42:27.460
listener with a provocative thought then. We

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talked about the Lebenswelt, the life world,

00:42:29.460 --> 00:42:32.239
the world of walking, talking, touching, smelling.

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Husserl warned that if our science and our culture

00:42:35.239 --> 00:42:37.420
forget the life world, they become hollow and

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dangerous. Today, we spend more and more of our

00:42:40.019 --> 00:42:42.739
time in digital worlds, in metaverses, on social

00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:46.300
media, in remote work environments. We are abstracting

00:42:46.300 --> 00:42:49.199
ourselves from physical reality more than at

00:42:49.199 --> 00:42:51.599
any point in human history. So the question is,

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is, in an age of algorithms and objective data,

00:42:54.769 --> 00:42:56.929
have we already completely lost touch with the

00:42:56.929 --> 00:43:00.130
Lebenswelt? And if we have, if our world is now

00:43:00.130 --> 00:43:02.489
mostly made up of improper presentations and

00:43:02.489 --> 00:43:05.110
symbols on screens, is our knowledge actually

00:43:05.110 --> 00:43:07.670
baseless? Are we building a skyscraper on a cloud?

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That is the question. If we lose the ground of

00:43:10.449 --> 00:43:12.530
lived experience, do we ultimately lose the truth

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itself? Something to chew on. This has been the

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Deep Dive on Edmund Husserl. Thanks for listening.

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Thank you. We'll see you next time.
