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OK, let's unpack this. I want you to imagine

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a person who somehow manages to inhabit two completely

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contradictory worlds at the exact same time.

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And I don't mean they have a day job and a hobby.

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I mean, they are a titan in one world and a legend

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in the other. And the rules of those two worlds.

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Oh, they usually do not mix. We are talking about

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the oil and water of the intellectual life, aren't

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we? It's that gap between rigorous, logic -driven

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moral philosophy and the messy, chaotic, emotional

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world of fiction writing. Right. Exactly. Usually

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you get one or the other. You get the philosopher

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who sits in a quiet room and thinks about truth

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with a capital T. And their writing is, let's

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be honest, it's dry, it's precise, and frankly,

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often pretty boring. It can be, yeah. Or you

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get the novelist, the person who lives in the

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muck of human relationships, dealing with affairs,

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jealousy, the smell of the sea, the taste of

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bad wine. Yeah. All the sensory stuff. But today

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we are talking about the woman who did both.

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At the highest possible level, she was a double

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threat in a way that almost no one else in the

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20th century was. We're talking about Dame Jean

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Iris Murdoch. And... Honestly, the more I read

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about her for this deep dive, the more I felt

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like I was reading about a fictional character.

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I mean, try this on for size. Imagine a friend

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who writes these incredibly dense, serious, philosophical

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tracks about the importance of goodness, about

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suppressing your ego, about basically being a

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saint. Okay. But then the same friend lives a

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bohemian life that would make a rock star blush.

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It's a life full of wild affairs, turbulent relationships,

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and a marriage that just... It defies any modern

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categorization. And then she turns around and

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writes 26 novels. Yeah. Bestsellers, Booker Prize

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winners that are basically about the absolute

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chaos she sees around her and lives inside of.

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That is the hook. She's the saint and the artist.

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She's the moralist and the bohemian. And our

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mission today isn't just to list her achievements.

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We want to figure out how she saw the world.

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We want to get inside her head. And we have a

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great stack of sources to help us do that. We're

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looking at her biography, obviously, but we're

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also diving into her major philosophical work,

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The Sovereignty of Good, which is a tough read.

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It's dense, but we're going to break it down.

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Yeah, we'll make it make sense. We're looking

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at her fiction, specifically The Sea, The Sea,

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and her first novel, Under the Net. And perhaps

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most interestingly, we're looking at the memoirs

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written by the people who knew her, specifically

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her husband, John Bailey. We are going to try

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to answer the question, how do you live a life

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of attention, and that's a key word for her,

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in a world that is constantly trying to distract

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you? Because if there is one thing Murdoch hated...

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It was a distraction. She wanted to see the truth

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of things. And that really is the why for everyone

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listening. We live in the age of distraction.

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We live in the age of the fat, relentless ego,

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as she so brilliantly called it. What a phrase.

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Isn't it? Murdoch's philosophy is almost an antidote

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to the 21st century, even though she died just

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before it really kicked off. We're going to decode

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her concept of unselfing, which sounds painful,

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but is actually incredibly liberating. We are

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definitely going to talk about that marriage.

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43 years. 43 years of complexity, yeah. So let's

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start at the very beginning. To understand the

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dual mind, we have to look at the dual origin.

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Where does a brain like Iris Murdoch's even come

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from? Well, she was born in Finsborough, Dublin

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on July 15th, 1919. And we can't just gloss over

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that date or that place. It's hugely important.

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No, 1919 in Dublin is not a quiet time. Not at

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all. It's the middle of the Irish War of Independence.

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The city is a powder keg. There's violence in

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the streets. There's a massive cultural upheaval

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happening. She is born right into the thick.

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of this identity crisis for the entire nation.

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And her own family seems to embody a bit of a

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contradiction too, right? Her father, Wills John

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Hughes Murdoch, comes from this very grounded

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background. Right. He was a civil servant, but

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his roots were in County Down from a line of

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Presbyterian sheep farmers. So you have this

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very practical, earthbound, stoic lineage on

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one side. Salt of the earth. Very much. And he

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had served as an officer in the Royal Dublin

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Fusiliers during the First World War, so he'd

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seen the reality of conflict up close. He's not

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an abstract thinker. And then the mother. Completely

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different. Irene Ellis. She was a trained singer.

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She came from a middle -class Church of Ireland

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family in Dublin. So you have the sheep farmer's

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son and the singer. The pragmatic and the artistic

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right there in the household. It feels like her

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entire personality was set up right there in

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the DNA. The grounding of the father and the

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soaring artistic temperament of the mother. But

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she didn't grow up in Dublin, did she? They moved.

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No, and this is crucial for her identity. When

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she was just a few weeks old, the family moved

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to London because her father joined the Ministry

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of Health. So she grows up in Chiswick. She's

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an only child educated at these very proper progressive

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private schools like the Frobel Demonstration

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School and then Badminton School in Bristol.

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So she's Anglo -Irish. She's living in England.

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She sounds English. She's educated in the English

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system. But she has this shadow identity, this

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Irish birthright that she carries with her. And

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she felt that duality intensely. Later in life,

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she talked about feeling like an exile in both

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places. You know, too English for the Irish and

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too Irish. for the English. That sense of being

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an outsider looking in is really, really important

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for a novelist. You need that distance to observe

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people properly. She eventually heads to Oxford

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in 1938, Somerville College, and she decides

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to study greats. Now, I know we throw that term

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around when we talk about British intellectuals,

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but I think we need to explain what that actually

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means. It's not just introduction to philosophy

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101. Oh, absolutely not. Greats, or... Literae

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Humanioris is the intellectual equivalent of

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Navy SEAL training for the mind. It is a grueling

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four -year course that combines Latin and Greek

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language and literature, ancient history, and

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both ancient and modern philosophy. So you're

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not just reading translations. No, no. You are

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translating Thucydides and Plato from the original

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Greek and Tacitus from the Latin while simultaneously

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critiquing their logic and historical accuracy.

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It is designed to be punishing. It sounds exhausting.

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It is. It trains you to think with incredible

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precision. And Iris didn't just survive it, she

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crushed it. She took first class honors in 1942.

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But again, look at the year, 1942. She is sitting

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her final exams, translating Greek philosophy,

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while the Luftwaffe is bombing London. The world

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is burning down around her. That contrast is

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the key to her entire life. It's always there.

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She's in this ivory tower, engaging with the

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highest forms of human thought, while the basest

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forms of human destruction are happening just

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a few hundred miles away. And she doesn't stay

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in the tower. That's the important part. This

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is the part of her resume that I think surprises

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people who only know her as a novelist. She didn't

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go straight into a Ph .D. or a teaching gig.

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She went into the wreckage of the war. She did.

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Initially, she worked for the U .K. Treasury

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as an assistant principal, which was essential

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war work, but fairly bureaucratic. But then in

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June 1944, she joined the U .N .R .A. The United

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Nations Relief and Rehabilitation Administration.

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Exactly. This is the organization tasked with

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putting Europe back together. And putting back

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together is a very polite way of saying trying

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to keep millions of displaced, starving, traumatized

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people alive. And where did they send her? She

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was stationed in London, then Brussels, then

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Innsbruck, and finally Graz, Austria, working

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with refugees. I want to pause on Graz because

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we're talking about 1945, 1946. The war has just

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ended. Austria was a part of the Third Reich.

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The infrastructure is gone. There are refugees

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flooding in from the east. What is a young woman

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from Oxford seeing when she steps off the train

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in Graz? She's seeing total moral and physical

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collapse. She's seen displaced persons, camps,

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VP camps. These are people who have lost their

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homes, their families, their citizenship. They're

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stateless. And the conditions must have been?

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Appalling. It's hunger. It's cold. It's mud.

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It's disease. It's the sheer logistical nightmare

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of human suffering on a mass scale. In the outline,

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it mentions she called this the thinginess of

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life. I love that. Yes. That's a very Murdochian

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phrase. Yeah. When you were in a classroom in

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Oxford, you can talk about the good or justice

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as these beautiful abstract concepts. Yeah. But

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when you were in a refugee camp in Graz looking

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at a family that has walked a thousand miles

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with nothing but the clothes on their backs,

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life becomes very thingy. Right. It's about bread.

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It's about blankets. It's about a visa stamp

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that can mean the difference between life and

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death. Goodness is not an idea. It's a bowl of

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soup. It strikes me that this experience must

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be where her philosophy actually starts to form.

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You can't be a moral relativist when you're standing

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in a refugee camp. You can't look at that suffering

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and say well morality is just a matter of opinion.

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I think you've hit the nail on the head. That

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experience lightly inoculated her against the

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kind of dry academic philosophy that was becoming

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popular at the time. She saw that human beings

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aren't just rational agents making choices in

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a vacuum. No, they're vulnerable. They are vulnerable,

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fleshy creatures who can be destroyed. And she

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saw that the act of helping someone, of seeing

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them as human amidst the rubble, was a real tangible

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force in the world. It wasn't just a word. It

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was an action. It's interesting. She also briefly

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met Ludwig Wittgenstein during this post -war

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period, right? Sure. At Cambridge. Yes. After

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UNRA, she won a scholarship to Vassar in the

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U .S., but was denied a visa, which we'll get

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to. So instead, she went to Newnham College,

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Cambridge, as a postgraduate from 1947 to 1948.

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And Wittgenstein is there. Wittgenstein is the,

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I mean, the heavyweight champion of 20th century

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philosophy. She didn't hear him lecture formally

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because he had resigned his professorship, but

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she was in his orbit. She met him. Talk about

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intimidating. Incredibly. Wittgenstein was known

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for his intensity, his almost religious devotion

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to the precision of language. He would trowel

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around the room demanding absolute clarity, even

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though Murdoch would eventually rebel against

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a lot of the analytic tradition he spawned. That

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exposure to his rigor, that demand for absolute

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honesty and thought definitely shaped her. So

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we have the foundation. She has the classical

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education from Oxford, the real -world trauma

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of the war relief work, and the exposure to the

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greatest philosophical minds of the era. She

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becomes a fellow at St. Anne's College, Oxford,

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in 1948. She is set up to be a brilliant academic.

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She is. Her path seems set. But then we have

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to talk about the other side of the coin, the

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personal life, the part that wasn't so neat and

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tidy. The life that fueled the novels. Exactly.

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Enter John Bailey. They met in Oxford in 1954.

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He was a literary critic, a professor at St.

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Anthony's College, and a novelist himself, though

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not as famous as she would become. They married

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in 1956. Now, if you look at the photos of them

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or read the basic bio, it looks like the perfect

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match. Two Dons, two intellectuals, a life of

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books and tea and quiet conversation in a dusty

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house full of papers. And in many ways, that

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was their life. It was a partnership of the mind.

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They had this incredible intellectual connection,

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but the romantic and sexual dynamic. That is

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where it gets incredibly complicated. This is

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the part that feels like a Rorschach test for

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relationships. Some people look at it and see

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a disaster. Others see something evolved and

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complex. John Bailey has this famous quote, and

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I still can't believe he said this. He thought

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that sex was quote, inescapably ridiculous. Chuckles

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lightly. It's a very distinct perspective. And

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if that is your baseline for intimacy, that it's

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inherently silly and ridiculous, you're going

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to have a very specific kind of marriage. Especially

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when your wife is Iris Murdoch. Because everything

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I've read suggests she did not find it ridiculous.

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She found it essential, powerful, maybe even

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dangerous. She was a person of immense passion.

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The sources are clear on this. She had multiple

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serious affairs throughout her marriage, and

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these weren't just flings. These were intense,

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emotional, sometimes turbulent relationships

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with both men and women. We have to name names

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here to understand the scope. She had a long,

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very complex relationship with the writer Brigid

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Brophy. Which was a very intellectual, very intense

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connection. Lots of letters, lots of arguments,

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a real meeting of minds as well as everything

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else. And then there's Elias Kennedy. He was

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a Nobel Prize winner, a writer, and by all accounts,

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a massive, overpowering personality. Kennedy

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is crucial. He was a dominant, almost demonic

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figure. He was charismatic, controlling, and

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sexually demanding. He is the archetype for what

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Murdoch called the enchanter. The enchanter.

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Let's define that. This is a figure that shows

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up in her books over and over again. It's the

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charismatic, powerful male who walks into a room

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and just bends reality to his will. He sucks

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the oxygen out of the room and makes everyone,

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men and women, fall in love with him or fear

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him. even if he's destroying them in the process.

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A kind of psychological vampire. In a way, yes.

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And she experienced that dynamic firsthand with

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Kennedy. She knew what it felt like to be under

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the spell of a powerful, ego -driven personality.

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And instead of letting it destroy her marriage,

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she seemingly compartmentalized it, or maybe

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integrated it. It's hard to say. But Bailey knew,

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right? He wasn't the clueless husband sitting

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at home while she was out having these intense

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relationships. He knew, absolutely. You referred

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to them as discomposing occasions. Discomposing

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occasions? That is the most British understatement

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I have ever heard in my entire life. My wife

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is with her Nobel Prize winning lover. How discomposing.

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It is remarkably understated. But I think this

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speaks to why the marriage lasted 43 years until

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her death. Bailey offered her something the Enchantress

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couldn't. Which was what? He offered her a safe

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harbor. He offered her a childlike, undemanding

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acceptance. With Kennedy, she had to be on. She

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had to be the intellectual equal, the lover,

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the combatant. It was exhausting. With Bailey,

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she could just be Iris. She could be messy and

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difficult, and he would still be there. It's

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that contrast again. The storm and the harbor.

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And she needed both. If she only had Bailey,

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maybe she would have been bored to death. If

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she only had Kennedy, she might have burned out

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completely. And this tension is exactly what

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fuels her fiction. It's the raw material. When

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you read her novels, they are populated by these

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exact types of people. You have the quiet, observant

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characters, often like Bailey, and you have the

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dangerous, charismatic wrecking balls like Kennedy.

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She wasn't inventing these dynamics. She was

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reporting from the front lines of her own life.

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Which brings us to the engine room. We've talked

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about the life, but we need to talk about the

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thinking. Because Murdoch wasn't just writing

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novels about affairs. She was trying to build

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a philosophical system that explained why we

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behave the way we do, why we fall under these

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spells. This is the aha moment. This is where

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we dive into her philosophy, specifically her

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collection of essays, The Sovereignty of Good.

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To understand why her philosophy was so radical,

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so rebellious, we have to understand what she

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was fighting against. You mentioned earlier that

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she hated the dominant philosophy of her time.

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What was going on in Oxford in the 50s and 60s

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that made her so angry? It was the heyday of

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analytic philosophy, specifically a branch of

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moral philosophy that included emotivism and

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later prescriptivism. The big names were people

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like A .J. Ayer and R .M. Hare. Okay, lay it

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out for us. What did they believe? What was the

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core idea? In simple terms, they believed that

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facts and values were completely separate things.

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A fact is something you can prove scientifically,

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like water boils at 100 degrees Celsius. That's

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a real verifiable statement about the world.

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Right. But a value, a statement like stealing

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is wrong or kindness is good, isn't a fact in

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the same way. It's just an expression of a feeling

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or a command. So if I say murder is wrong, I'm

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not stating a truth about the universe. According

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to the emotivist, no. You are basically just

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saying boo to murder. You are expressing a personal

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distaste. Or for the prescriptivist, you're saying

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don't murder, like a command. But you are describing

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a reality. There's no property of wrongness floating

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in the universe that you're pointing to. That

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feels empty. It makes morality feel like it's

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just about my personal preference, like choosing

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vanilla ice cream over chocolate. I prefer not

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being murdered. That is exactly why Murdoch hated

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it. She called it an uncriticized conception

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of science, dominating all of thought. She felt

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it reduced human beings to these isolated, lonely

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wills. In that worldview, we are just standing

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in a featureless void, pointing at things and

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saying, I like this or I command that. There's

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no connection to a deeper reality, no sense of

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discovery. So what was her alternative? She called

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herself a moral realist. What does that mean?

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It means she went back to Plato. She argued that

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good is a real thing. It's not just a word we

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use to express our feelings. It is a reality,

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almost like the sun. It exists outside of us,

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independent of our will. So it's something to

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be discovered, not invented. Precisely. And our

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job as human beings isn't to create our own values

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based on what we happen to want. Our job is to

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try to see the good. to perceive it accurately.

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This is where we get to her most famous concept,

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attention. Yes. She borrowed this from the French

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philosopher and mystic Simone Weil, who she had

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admired greatly. The idea is that morality isn't

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primarily about the moment you make a choice.

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It's not about standing at a crossroads and saying,

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I choose the virtuous path on the left. Okay.

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Morality is about what you were doing for the

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10 years leading up to that crossroads. It's

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about the quality of your consciousness. It's

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about how you habitually see the world. It's

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about the seeing, not the choosing. Exactly.

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The moral work happens before the choice. If

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you see the world clearly, if you pay just and

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loving attention to reality, you will naturally

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do the right thing when the time comes. If you

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are blinded by your own ego, by your own selfish

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fantasies, you will naturally do the wrong thing.

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The real work of morality happens in the scene.

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Okay, this is beautiful, but it's still a bit

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abstract. And Murdoch knew that, which is why

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she gave us the parable of M and D in her essays.

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I love this story because it is so mundane, so

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domestic, yet it explains everything. It is the

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perfect example. It brings it right down to earth.

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So let's set the scene. You have a mother -in

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-law, M, and you have a daughter -in -law, D.

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A tale as old as time. The classic setup for

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drama. Chuckles, indeed. Now, M is a bit of a

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snob. She's educated. She's refined. She looks

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at D, her son's wife, and she is not impressed.

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What does she see when she looks at D? She sees

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a girl who is common. She thinks D is cheap,

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undignified, maybe a bit noisy and vulgar. Her

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internal monologue is just full of judgment.

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She thinks, my son has married beneath him. But

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here's the catch, and this is so important. M

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is very well behaved on the outside. She's a

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proper English lady. Right. If you were watching

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M on a hidden camera, you wouldn't know she felt

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this way. She treats D perfectly well. She is

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polite. She smiles. She helps out with the dishes.

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She never says a single mean word. So, according

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to the analytic philosophers, the Buhare guys

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is a perfectly moral person in this situation.

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She is performing all the right actions. Her

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outward behavior is flawless. Exactly. If morality

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is just about public choices and observable actions,

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M is a saint. But Murdoch says no, absolutely

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not. Murdoch says that M's internal state matters.

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The fact that she is secretly despising D matters

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morally. Her consciousness is full of ugliness

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and illusion. So what happens in the parable?

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Does M just stay a secret hater forever? No.

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M decides to do the work. Maybe she realizes

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she's being unfair, or maybe she just wants to

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be a better person. She decides to look again.

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She applies attention. She tries to suspend her

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own prejudices, her own jealousy, her own snobbery.

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She tries to, in Murdoch's term, unself. She

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takes off the ego glasses. She tries to see what's

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actually there. She cleans the lens. And gradually

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over time, her vision shifts. She looks at D

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doing the exact same things as before. D is still

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the same person. But where M used to see vulgarity

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and noise, she now sees spontaneity and joy.

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Where she used to see commonness, she now sees

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freshness. a naive simplicity. She has re -described

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Dee in a more just, more loving way. And the

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crucial point is that Dee hasn't changed. Dee

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is exactly the same person she was at the beginning.

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The only thing that has changed is what is happening

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inside Em's head. And for Murdoch, that internal

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shift is a moral act. It might be the most important

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moral act Em has ever performed. She has moved

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from illusion seeing Dee through the fog of her

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own selfish ego to reality seeing Dee justly.

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as she truly is. That is such a heavy idea if

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you really apply it to your own life. It means

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that what I think about the guy who cuts me off

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in traffic matters, even if I don't honk at him

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or flip him off. It means my internal monologue

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is a moral battleground. That's it. That's the

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whole game for her. Murdoch believed that the

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fat, relentless ego, that's her phrase, and it's

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just brilliant, is constantly creating illusions

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to protect itself. The fat, relentless ego. It's

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such a visceral image. It sounds like a monster

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living in your chest. In a way, it is. And it's

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constantly weaving stories. We tell ourselves

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stories where we are the hero and everyone else

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is an idiot or a villain or an obstacle. Morality

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is the painful, difficult work of popping that

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bubble and seeing other people as real, separate

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entities with their own centers of being. Great

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art was one of the few things that could help

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us kill that ego, or at least quiet it down.

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Yes. When you look at a truly great painting,

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or read a great novel, or even just look at a

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kestrel hovering in the sky, you forget yourself

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for a moment. You are pulled out of your own

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head and forced to pay attention to something

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else, something real and detailed, and not you.

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That moment of selfless awe is a moral training

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ground. Which is the perfect transition to her

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other career. Because if art is the tool we use

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to learn how to see, then writing novels is basically

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building a gymnasium for the soul. Exactly. She

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published 26 of them. And she didn't view them

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as separate from her philosophy at all. They

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were the laboratory where she tested these ideas

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with fictional human beings. She started with

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Under the Net in 1954, which is actually really

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funny. It's a picaresque, it's a comedy about

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a... Charming but feckless writer in London.

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It is. It's light. It's fast -paced. It was selected

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by Modern Library as one of the 100 best English

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language novels of the 20th century. But as she

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got older, her books got denser, darker, and

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philosophically more complex. And we have to

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talk about the big one, the one that won the

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Booker Prize, The Sea. The Sea, published in

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1978. This book is a masterpiece of psychological

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horror in a way, but it is also a terrifying

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look at what happens when you fail the M &amp;D test

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on a grand dramatic scale. Let's break it down.

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Who is the main character? Charles Araby. He

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is a famous, successful, celebrated London theater

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director who has just retired. He is wealthy,

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he is cultured, and he is an absolute monster

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of ego. The fat, relentless ego with a name and

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a bank account? 100%. He moves to this isolated,

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ugly house by the sea he calls Shruff End. He

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wants to write his memoirs. He wants to be alone

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with the waves and his own brilliant thoughts.

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The book is his diary, and he describes his meals

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in excruciating detail. Anchovy paste, boiled

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eggs. Cheap wine. He is utterly obsessed with

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his own sensory experience. It's all about him.

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Everything. Yeah. But then, one day, he sees

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a ghost from his past in the village. Hartley?

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Mary Hartley Fitch. She was his childhood sweetheart,

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the one who got away. He hasn't seen her in decades.

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She is now an elderly woman, frumpy, with a difficult

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adopted son, married to someone else, living

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this quiet, unassuming life in the same village.

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And most people would say, oh wow, small world,

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and maybe have an awkward cup of tea. But not

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Charles. Charles decides that this is destiny.

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It's fate. He decides that Hartley is miserable,

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that her husband is abusive, and that he, Charles,

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is her savior. He convinces himself that she

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is secretly, tragically still in love with him.

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He starts writing this narrative in his head,

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the same way he would direct a play. I am the

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night, she is the damsel in distress. And he

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acts on it. He stalks her. He engineers encounters.

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He eventually, essentially kidnaps her. Or at

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least... holds her prisoner in his house under

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the guise of rescuing her from her life. It becomes

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a claustrophobic horror story of obsession. And

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the tragedy is the reader can see what Charles

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can't see. Because we're reading his diary, we

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see his delusions, but we also see through them.

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We can see that Hartley is just... Tired. She's

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confused. She's old. She doesn't want to be rescued.

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She just wants to go home. Exactly. Charles refuses

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to see her. He refuses to pay attention to the

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real woman in front of him. He looks at her and

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sees his own fantasy, his own lost youth, a character

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in his psychodrama. He imposes his will on her

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reality. It is the ultimate failure of love.

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He is the enchanter gone wrong. He is trying

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to force the world to follow his script because

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he's a director. But real people aren't actors

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you can just give lines to. And the novel absolutely

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destroys him for it. By the end, his illusions

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are shattered in the most violent and humiliating

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ways. It is a brutal demonstration of Murdoch's

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philosophy. If you do not see people justly,

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if you do not unself, you will destroy them and

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you will destroy yourself. It makes you wonder

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how much of herself she put into Charles. She

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knew she had a big ego. She's a famous writer.

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Was she afraid of becoming him? I think every

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creative person has a bit of Charles Aroby in

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them. the desire to control the narrative to

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make the world conform to your vision i think

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she wrote him as a warning to herself and to

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us There is a critique, though, isn't there?

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The literary critic James Wood pointed this out.

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He said that for all her talk about creating

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free characters like Tolstoy did, for all her

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praise of seeing others as real, Murdoch's own

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characters often feel trapped by her. It's the

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puppet master critique, yeah. Wood argued that

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because she had such a strong philosophical agenda,

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her characters sometimes feel like they're just

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acting out her theories. They don't always breathe

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and surprise you in the way that, say, Tolstoy's

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characters do. They feel like chess pieces in

00:26:01.650 --> 00:26:04.440
a moral... game she is playing. Sometimes. It's

00:26:04.440 --> 00:26:06.920
a fair critique. The plots can be a bit creaky

00:26:06.920 --> 00:26:09.960
and melodramatic. But even when her characters

00:26:09.960 --> 00:26:13.279
are puppets, they are fascinating, articulate,

00:26:13.599 --> 00:26:17.759
messy puppets. And the world she builds are so

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immersive and intelligent. Let's zoom out again.

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We've covered the philosophy and the fiction,

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but we can't ignore the politics, because just

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like her love life, her political life went through

00:26:26.779 --> 00:26:29.579
some wild swings. She didn't start out as a quiet

00:26:29.579 --> 00:26:32.779
Oxford don. Oh, massive swings. If you go back

00:26:32.779 --> 00:26:35.859
to 1938, when she started at Oxford, she was

00:26:35.859 --> 00:26:37.859
a card -carrying member of the Communist Party

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of Great Britain. Which, to be fair, was almost

00:26:39.900 --> 00:26:41.579
a fashion statement for intellectuals in the

00:26:41.579 --> 00:26:44.240
30s. It was the thing to do. It was. It was the

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era of the Spanish Civil War, the rise of fascism

00:26:46.700 --> 00:26:48.940
across Europe. If you had a heart and a brain,

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And you leaned left. Yeah. But Murdoch didn't

00:26:51.359 --> 00:26:54.380
just lean. She joined. She was a committed member.

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But it didn't last. No. She left the party in

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1942. Yeah. And her disillusionment was profound.

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She later said that the experience taught her

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how strong and how awful Marxism is in its organized

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institutional form. Strong and awful. That is

00:27:10.259 --> 00:27:13.920
such a specific and telling phrasing. It acknowledges

00:27:13.920 --> 00:27:16.759
the power of the idea. the desire for justice,

00:27:16.940 --> 00:27:20.000
the critique of capitalism. But it condemns the

00:27:20.000 --> 00:27:22.400
reality, the crushing of the individual, the

00:27:22.400 --> 00:27:25.559
dogmatism, the lies. And this haunted her professionally.

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For years, she was denied visas to the United

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States because of the McCarran Act. She was on

00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:32.799
a blacklist. Absolutely. She had to get special

00:27:32.799 --> 00:27:35.819
waivers just to visit. Her youthful radicalism

00:27:35.819 --> 00:27:37.839
had real -world consequences for a long time.

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And then there is the Irish question. We started

00:27:40.299 --> 00:27:43.170
with her birth in Dublin. As the troubles escalated

00:27:43.170 --> 00:27:45.309
in the later 20th century, how did she relate

00:27:45.309 --> 00:27:47.529
to that part of her identity? This is where her

00:27:47.529 --> 00:27:50.210
commitment to truth over tribalism really shows

00:27:50.210 --> 00:27:52.849
up. Her biographer, Peter Conradi, notes she

00:27:52.849 --> 00:27:55.529
had as valid a claim to Irishness as most North

00:27:55.529 --> 00:27:58.289
Americans have to American -ness. But she grew

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to despise the romantic nationalism that she

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felt fueled the IRA. There is a quote in the

00:28:03.430 --> 00:28:04.970
source material where she talks about hearing

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Irish voices. It's from a private letter, and

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it's quite shocking. She wrote, The sounds of

00:28:10.009 --> 00:28:12.210
all those Irish voices made me feel privately

00:28:12.210 --> 00:28:15.750
sick. A mad, bad world. Privately sick. That

00:28:15.750 --> 00:28:18.589
is visceral. That is a rejection of her own tribe,

00:28:18.650 --> 00:28:21.569
in a way. Because she saw what that tribalism

00:28:21.569 --> 00:28:23.970
was doing. She saw that the narrative of the

00:28:23.970 --> 00:28:26.529
cause was being used to justify murder and violence.

00:28:26.789 --> 00:28:29.690
For her, it was another form of the fat, relentless

00:28:29.690 --> 00:28:32.789
ego, but a collective one. Our side is good.

00:28:32.930 --> 00:28:35.170
Your side is bad. Therefore, we can kill you.

00:28:35.740 --> 00:28:38.359
She hated anything that blinded people to the

00:28:38.359 --> 00:28:40.720
concrete humanity of others. So whether it was

00:28:40.720 --> 00:28:42.839
a jealous mother -in -law, a selfish theater

00:28:42.839 --> 00:28:45.240
director, or a political movement, the enemy

00:28:45.240 --> 00:28:48.099
was always the same. Blindness, self -centered

00:28:48.099 --> 00:28:51.119
illusion. Exactly. The enemy is the refusal to

00:28:51.119 --> 00:28:53.299
see reality clearly. We have to talk about the

00:28:53.299 --> 00:28:55.880
end. Because for a woman who lived entirely in

00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.099
her mind, who prized consciousness and attention

00:28:58.099 --> 00:29:00.680
and nuance above everything else, the end of

00:29:00.680 --> 00:29:03.420
her life was a particularly cruel irony. It is

00:29:03.420 --> 00:29:05.019
the most heartbreaking chapter of the story.

00:29:05.299 --> 00:29:08.000
In 1997, after a couple of years of what she

00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:09.920
called a writer's block that was clearly something

00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.799
more, Iris Murdoch was diagnosed with Alzheimer's

00:29:12.799 --> 00:29:15.920
disease. The fading of the light. The great mind

00:29:15.920 --> 00:29:18.640
unraveling. She described it to her husband as

00:29:18.640 --> 00:29:22.680
being in a very bad, quiet place. She lost her

00:29:22.680 --> 00:29:25.769
words. She lost her ability to write, to read.

00:29:26.410 --> 00:29:28.670
The woman who had translated Plato and written

00:29:28.670 --> 00:29:31.390
The Sea, The Sea eventually sat in front of the

00:29:31.390 --> 00:29:34.250
Teletubbies on TV, pointing at the screen, unable

00:29:34.250 --> 00:29:36.650
to articulate what she saw. And her husband,

00:29:36.710 --> 00:29:39.589
John Daly, the man who found sex ridiculous,

00:29:39.710 --> 00:29:42.250
the man who stayed in the harbor all those years,

00:29:42.470 --> 00:29:45.269
he became her primary caretaker. He did. And

00:29:45.269 --> 00:29:46.930
he did something very public and very controversial.

00:29:47.230 --> 00:29:50.890
He wrote a memoir, Iris. A memoir later retitled

00:29:50.890 --> 00:29:53.299
Elegy for Iris. He published the first part of

00:29:53.299 --> 00:29:55.160
it while she was still alive, and the full book

00:29:55.160 --> 00:29:57.700
came out shortly before she died in 1999. And

00:29:57.700 --> 00:30:00.259
people had strong feelings about this. Very strong

00:30:00.259 --> 00:30:02.460
feelings. The book was a sensation. It was adapted

00:30:02.460 --> 00:30:04.519
into that famous movie with Judi Dench and Kate

00:30:04.519 --> 00:30:07.539
Winslet. But in the literary world, it caused

00:30:07.539 --> 00:30:10.460
a scandal. Some people felt Bailey was exploiting

00:30:10.460 --> 00:30:12.619
her. They felt he was revealing her indignity,

00:30:12.619 --> 00:30:14.680
the incontinence, the confusion, her vulnerability

00:30:14.680 --> 00:30:17.480
for his own fame and profit. Wow. One critic

00:30:17.480 --> 00:30:19.859
called it mischievously revelatory. Like he was

00:30:19.859 --> 00:30:22.359
finally taking control of the narrative after

00:30:22.359 --> 00:30:25.460
all those years of being the quiet one. The enchanter

00:30:25.460 --> 00:30:27.960
is gone. Now I'm the writer. There is that interpretation.

00:30:28.180 --> 00:30:30.099
Yeah. That he was settling some kind of score,

00:30:30.180 --> 00:30:31.859
but there is a kinder one, and I think it's the

00:30:31.859 --> 00:30:34.640
more accurate one, which is that in those final

00:30:34.640 --> 00:30:37.900
years, Bailey was finally passing the ultimate

00:30:37.900 --> 00:30:41.119
M &amp;D test. How so? Explain that. He was looking

00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:44.119
at her. Not as the famous genius, not as the

00:30:44.119 --> 00:30:46.539
wandering unfaithful wife, not as the intimidating

00:30:46.539 --> 00:30:49.440
intellect, but as a vulnerable, broken human

00:30:49.440 --> 00:30:52.000
being in front of him who needed care. And he

00:30:52.000 --> 00:30:54.440
loved her. He fed her, he dressed her, he sat

00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.220
with her. The memoir is a record of him paying

00:30:57.220 --> 00:30:59.259
attention to her when she could no longer pay

00:30:59.259 --> 00:31:01.289
attention to anything at all. That is beautiful.

00:31:01.430 --> 00:31:03.730
It turns the controversy into a final act of

00:31:03.730 --> 00:31:06.609
love, a final moral act in her own terms. It

00:31:06.609 --> 00:31:09.369
does. It shows that in the end, the simple, ridiculous

00:31:09.369 --> 00:31:11.430
husband was the one who could see her justly,

00:31:11.450 --> 00:31:13.750
who could love the reality of her, not the idea.

00:31:14.029 --> 00:31:16.009
So what does this all mean? We've looked at the

00:31:16.009 --> 00:31:18.650
war, the affairs, the philosophy, the books,

00:31:18.730 --> 00:31:21.569
the disease. When we put it all together, what

00:31:21.569 --> 00:31:24.430
is the legacy of Iris Murdoch? I think her legacy

00:31:24.430 --> 00:31:27.230
is that she built a bridge. She built a bridge

00:31:27.230 --> 00:31:30.000
between the inner life. The secret thoughts we

00:31:30.000 --> 00:31:31.900
have in the shower, the jealousies, the fears,

00:31:32.019 --> 00:31:36.279
our private mental landscape, and the real world

00:31:36.279 --> 00:31:39.259
of moral action. She didn't let us off the hook.

00:31:39.319 --> 00:31:41.240
She didn't let us say, well, my actions were

00:31:41.240 --> 00:31:43.960
fine, so I'm a good person. No, she demanded

00:31:43.960 --> 00:31:47.079
more from us. She demanded that we purify our

00:31:47.079 --> 00:31:50.259
vision. She taught us that we are all pilgrims

00:31:50.259 --> 00:31:52.460
trying to see through the fog of our own selfishness.

00:31:52.740 --> 00:31:56.299
And she gave us the tools. art, beauty, nature,

00:31:56.500 --> 00:32:00.019
love, to help clear that fog even for a moment.

00:32:00.160 --> 00:32:01.640
I want to leave the listener with a final thought.

00:32:01.720 --> 00:32:03.200
It's a quote of hers, and I think it sums up

00:32:03.200 --> 00:32:04.559
everything we've talked about today. She said,

00:32:04.720 --> 00:32:07.700
love is the extremely difficult realization that

00:32:07.700 --> 00:32:11.380
something other than oneself is real. It sounds

00:32:11.380 --> 00:32:13.380
so simple, like something on a greeting card.

00:32:13.700 --> 00:32:16.980
But try doing it. Try really, truly believing

00:32:16.980 --> 00:32:19.339
and acting on that for a whole day. It's the

00:32:19.339 --> 00:32:21.740
hardest work in the world. So here is the challenge

00:32:21.740 --> 00:32:24.519
for you listening right now. Next time you feel

00:32:24.519 --> 00:32:27.480
that flash of irritation or judgment or jealousy

00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.960
towards someone, maybe it's your own version

00:32:29.960 --> 00:32:33.119
of the daughter -in -law D or a rival at work

00:32:33.119 --> 00:32:36.200
or just a stranger on the Internet, ask yourself

00:32:36.200 --> 00:32:38.559
a question. Ask yourself, is the problem with

00:32:38.559 --> 00:32:42.339
them or is my lens dirty? Is it a failure of

00:32:42.339 --> 00:32:44.680
my own vision? Can I look again? Can I unself

00:32:44.680 --> 00:32:46.960
just for a second and try to see them justly?

00:32:47.759 --> 00:32:50.059
That's the Murdoch challenge. And it's a lifelong

00:32:50.059 --> 00:32:52.319
project. You never really finish. It certainly

00:32:52.319 --> 00:32:54.759
is. Thanks for taking this deep dive with us

00:32:54.759 --> 00:32:56.880
into the mind of Iris Murdoch. It's been a pleasure.

00:32:57.059 --> 00:32:57.819
See you next time.
