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Welcome back to the deep dive. I'm your host.

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And today we are tackling a figure who is I mean,

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he's basically a walking, talking paradox. That's

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putting it lightly. We're looking at a man whose

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life really reads like a collision between a

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police blotter and a Ph .D. thesis. I mean, we're

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talking about a vagabond, a petty thief, a repeat

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offender facing a life sentence who just becomes

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this celebrated literary icon of the 20th century.

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Without even really changing. Exactly. That's

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the thing. There's no redemption arc, is there?

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No, not in the traditional sense. Usually you

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get the story of the criminal who sees the light,

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you know, and becomes a saint. Yeah. But our

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subject today, Jean Genet. He didn't do that.

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Not at all. He became a saint by doubling down

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on being a sinner. Yes. He's the man who wrote

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about the dazzling beauty of betrayal, yet he

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ends his life as this fiercely loyal political

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ally to marginalized groups. The Black Panthers,

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the Palestinians. It's a messy, complicated,

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and frankly, it's an explosive stack of sources

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we have today. It really is. We're pulling from

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several biographies, his own novels, which are

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incredibly dense, and then historical accounts

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of his activism. from the 40s all the way through

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the 80s, plus the literary criticism. Can't forget

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the heavy hitters. Oh yeah, John Paul Sartre

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especially. So our mission today is really to

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unpack this specific question. How did a self

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-proclaimed criminal child manage to dismantle

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societal values just by writing about them? And

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why does his work still feel so relevant? Why

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is he still the touchstone for understanding

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power? masks, the concept of the outsider. To

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get there, I think we have to look at the masks

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he wore. Absolutely. The thief, the writer, the

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activist. It's all performance in a way. Okay,

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so here's our roadmap for the steep dive. We're

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going to break his life into four distinct phases.

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Phase one, the biography of an outcast. You know

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how a foster kid becomes a career criminal. And

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why that was maybe a choice. Right. Then phase

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two. the literary explosion him writing these

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absolute masterpieces from a prison cell which

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is just an incredible story in itself then phase

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three the theater of illusion he moves to the

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stage and that's where he really starts to deconstruct

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power rituals and masks and finally phase four

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the radical activist his uh really surprising

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turn as a revolutionary figure in the U .S. and

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Middle East. It's a wild trajectory. He goes

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from solitary confinement to, I mean, the absolute

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center of global politics. It's an unbelievable

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life. So let's start at the very beginning. Paris,

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1910. Because the circumstances of his birth,

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really, they set the stage for everything that

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followed. They really do. December 19th, 1910,

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Jean Genet is born. And that theme of rejection

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is stamped on him. I mean... His mother was a

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prostitute. She keeps him for seven months and

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then she gives him up for adoption. He becomes

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a ward of the state. And usually when we hear

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abandoned child of a prostitute in early 1900s

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France, you know, we immediately picture this

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Dickensian nightmare. Oh, absolutely. Gruel,

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beatings, sleeping in a coal shed, that whole

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thing. Right. The tragic childhood trope. We

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want to believe that society failed him. So he

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failed society. It's a neat, clean story. But

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the sources, they paint a very different and

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I think a much more interesting picture. Genet

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was sent to a provincial town, a place called

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Elenion Morven. Okay. And his foster family,

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headed by a carpenter, was, well, they were fine.

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They were better than fine, weren't they? The

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sources say they were quite good to him. They

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were, by all accounts. And his main biographer,

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Edmund White, confirms this. They were loving

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and attentive. This wasn't a house of horrors.

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And not only that, Genet was a star pupil. He

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got excellent grades. Excellent grades. He was

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the altar boy. He was smart. He was supported.

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He was, you know, religious. The opposite of

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the cliche. This is the part I find so fascinating.

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If you have a loving home and you're getting

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straight A's, where does the thief come from?

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Why turn to crime? That is the million -dollar

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psychological question, isn't it? Because despite

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all that support, he started running away. He

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started stealing. Small things at first. Yeah,

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petty theft. Money from the house, items from

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local shops. And there's a strong argument to

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be made here that this was an existential choice.

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An existential choice. What do you mean by that?

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He decided to be bad. In a way, yeah. I mean,

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think about it. He knows he's a foundling. He

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knows his brave mother abandoned him. He feels

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that at his core, by birth, he is already outside

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the social order. OK, so he's already marked.

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He's already marked. So if society says be good

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and you feel society has already rejected you,

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compliance just feels fake, you know. But if

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you choose evil, if you choose to be the thief,

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you're taking control. You're not just a victim

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of abandonment anymore. You're the active villain

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in your own story. That is such a powerful reframe.

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It's almost like he's saying, you didn't cast

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me out. I walked out first. Precisely. He's taking

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ownership of his narrative. And boy, did he commit

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to it. By age 15, after repeated acts of vagrancy

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and misdemeanors, the system had finally had

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enough. And that's when he's sent to Metre. Metre

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Penal Colony. The name even sounds heavy. This

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wasn't just a juvenile hall, was it? No. Metre

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was infamous. It was a legendarily harsh place.

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He was there from 1926 to 1929, so for nearly

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three years. What was it like? It was a brutal

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military -style institution. Hard labor, really

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strict discipline. But, and here is that paradox

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again, for Genet, this wasn't just a prison.

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It was a university. The university of crime.

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The university of identity. This period is so

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crucial. It forms the entire basis of his later

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novel, Miracle of the Rose. He didn't look back

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on Maitre with horror. He mythologized it. He

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romanticized it. Completely. He saw the hierarchy

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of the tough older inmates and the younger weaker

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ones as a sort of royal court. He transformed

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the squalor and the violence into a hierarchy

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of saints and sinners. So he's, what, 15, 16

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years old, locked up in this terrible place.

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And instead of being broken by the experience,

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he's actively world building. He's turning the

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bullies into kings. It cemented his identity

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as a prisoner. He realized that this dark underworld

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had its own codes, its own beauty, its own aesthetic.

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And he wanted to be a part of it. He wanted to

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understand it. So he gets out at 18. He's young.

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He has a record. What's the next move for someone

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like that? Well, he tries to escape the penal

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system by joining the ultimate institution for

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lost souls. Let me guess. The Foreign Legion.

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The French Foreign Legion. The classic runaway

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and join the army move. How did that work out

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for a guy who clearly hates authority? About

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as well as you'd expect. He joined at 18, but

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it didn't last long. He was eventually given

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a dishonorable discharge. For what? The official

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reason was indecency. He was caught engaged in

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a homosexual act with another soldier. OK, so

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let's just recap here. He's maybe 18 or 19 years

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old. He has no family. He's a convicted juvenile

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delinquent. And now he's been kicked out of the

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army for being gay in the 1930s. He is like zero

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for three on the social acceptance scoreboard.

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And this is what kicks off what we can call the

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vagabond era. The next several years, he just

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wanders across Europe. Where to go? Spain, Italy,

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Poland, Czechoslovakia, all over. He's living

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the life of a drifter. He's a petty thief. He's

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a prostitute. He's a beggar. He's using false

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papers to cross borders. It sounds kind of adventurous

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in a movie sort of way, but the reality must

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have been incredibly grim. Just cold, hungry,

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constantly looking over your shoulder. It was

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absolutely grueling. But again, with Sinead,

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he isn't just suffering through this. He's observing

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it. He's taking notes. These experiences became

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the raw material for the Thies journal, which

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he published in 1949. And in that book, he recounts

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this life of wandering, not with shame, but with

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pride. With a kind of sacred pride. And that's

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a key distinction I really want to drill into.

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Most people, if they lived that life selling

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their body for a sandwich, stealing from churches,

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they would either hide it or they would write

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a misery memoir. Look how terrible my life was.

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Please pity me. Right. Genet does the absolute

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opposite. He refuses your pity. He wants your

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envy, or at least your awe. He actively mythologized

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his own degradation. He took the mud of his life,

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the theft, the prostitution, the lice -infested

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cells, and he sculpted it into something he considered

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beautiful. He calls it the splendor of the outcast.

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Which brings us perfectly into phase two, the

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literary explosion. He returns to Paris in 1937,

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and he's stuck in this revolving door of prison.

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Right. He's in and out constantly. Theft, false

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papers, lewd acts. He's a known nuisance to the

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Paris police at this point. But during one of

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these stints in prison, I believe it was Fransny

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Prison, something shifts. He doesn't just sit

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there and do his time. He starts writing. The

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creative spark ignites. It's an amazing moment.

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He writes his first poem, Le Condamné Amour,

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The Man Sentenced to Death. Yeah. And get this

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detail. He believed in it so much that he had

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it printed at his own cost. While in prison.

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While he was a penniless thief. He somehow finds

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the money to print his own poetry. That is some

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serious dedication. He's betting on himself.

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And then comes the big one. The novel. Our Lady

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of the Flowers, written in prison in 1944. I've

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read excerpts of this. Intense is not the word.

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It's not a standard linear story at all. It feels

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more like a fever dream. That's a great way to

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put it. It's a journey through the prison underworld,

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but it's filtered through this incredibly poetic,

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almost hallucinatory lens. And it has this fictional

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alter ego, right? Divine. Yes, divine. And divine

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is surrounded by these characters, other prisoners,

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drag queens, pimps. With names that are just

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fantastic. Give you some examples. Mimosa I,

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Mimosa II, First Communion, and my favorite,

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the Queen of Romania. The Queen of Romania. You

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have to love the campiness of it. It is camp,

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but it's gritty camp. It explores the specificity

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of homosexual gestures, the secret coding of

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that subculture, and the brutal hierarchy of

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the prison. He's describing a world that 99 %

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of the reading public knew nothing about. And

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he's describing it with the language of a cathedral.

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Precisely. The language of sainthood and martyrdom.

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So he's writing these masterpieces on, what,

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brown paper bags or whatever scraps he can find

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in jail. How does it get out? How does the sophisticated

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Parisian literary world find out about this,

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for lack of a better term, dirtbag genius? He

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sought out Jean Cocteau. The Jean Cocteau. The

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famous filmmaker, poet, the darling of the avant

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-garde. Very same. Genet somehow managed to get

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his work to Cocteau. And Cocteau was just...

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Blown away. He saw it right away. Immediately.

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He recognized that this wasn't just prison scribbles.

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This was high art. This was something new. So

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Cocteau used his massive network of contacts

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to get the novel published. So he has a champion.

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A very powerful champion. But there is a ticking

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clock here, right? Genet is still committing

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crimes he hasn't stopped. Exactly. The writing

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doesn't stop the thieving. By 1949, Genet had

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accumulated 10 convictions. And under an old

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French law at the time, once you hit that 10th

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conviction, you were automatically facing a life

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sentence of preventive detention. A life sentence.

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It's basically three strikes and you're out.

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But for France. Right. So the literary career

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he just started was about to be conducted entirely

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from a cell forever. But then this rescue mission

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happened. And this is honestly one of the most

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remarkable moments in all of literary history.

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A group of prominent figures got together. A

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supergroup. Jean Cocteau, Jean -Paul Sartre,

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and Pablo Picasso. Just pause on those names.

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Sartre, Cocteau, Picasso. That is the Mount Rushmore

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of European culture at the time. You couldn't

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assemble a more powerful cultural team. And they

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petitioned the president of the republic to set

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aside the sentence. And what was their argument?

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They argued that Genet's talent was so significant,

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so important to French culture, that he should

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be pardoned. that his art transcended his crimes.

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Imagine that happening today. Yes, Mr. President,

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this man is a habitual thief, but have you read

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his prose? It's magnificent. It really speaks

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to the immense power of the intellectual class

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in France at that time. And it worked. It worked.

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The president granted the pardon. Jean Genet

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never returned to prison after that moment. He's

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free. The thief is now a celebrated author. So

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let's talk about the content of these books that

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saved his life. We mentioned Our Lady of the

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Flowers, but there's also Funeral Rites and Corelle

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of Brest. Funeral Rites seems particularly shocking,

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even for him. Funeral Rites is a tough read for

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many people. It was written for his lover, Jean

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de Carnon, who was a resistance fighter killed

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by the Germans in World War II. So on the surface,

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it's a tragic love story, a tribute. Well, it's

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Genet, so it's never that simple. He grieves

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for his lover, yes. But the book explores love

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and betrayal across political divides in a way

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that is just jarring. He writes about the enemy

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with a strange kind of erotic charge. He does.

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And we have to address the elephant in the room

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here. Sinead's relationship with France and with

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the Nazis. Right. I saw in the notes that later

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in life he admitted to something pretty damning.

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He did. In a BBC interview in 1985, just a year

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before he died, he admitted that during the occupation

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of Paris, he was happy to see the French army

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defeated. He said he supported the Nazis when

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they invaded. Whoa. Okay. We need to parse this

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very carefully. Was he a fascist? Did he believe

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in the master race ideology? Most scholars and

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the evidence in his work would say no, not ideologically.

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It wasn't about anti -Semitism or Aryan supremacy

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for him. What was it about? It was about his

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hatred of the French state. Remember, the French

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state was the entity that took him from his mother,

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put him in Maitre, and threw him in prison repeatedly.

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So for him, he operated on the principle that

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the enemy of my enemy is my friend. Even if that

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enemy was the Third Reich? Even then. It's an

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extreme, almost pathological contrarianism. And

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that's the tension in funeral rites. Exactly.

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He elevates violent criminals, even Nazi collaborators,

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to the status of icons, of saints. He celebrates

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beauty and evil. He forces you, the reader, to

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confront your own morality. He's asking, if I

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can write a sentence so beautiful that it makes

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you admire a monster even for a second, what

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does that say about you? What does that say about

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art? It's a trap. He's trapping the reader in

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their own aesthetic appreciation. He's showing

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you that your sense of beauty can be weaponized

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against your sense of morality. Precisely. He's

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showing that beauty and morality are not synonyms.

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They are often at war with each other. So he

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becomes the bad boy of French literature. He's

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famous. He's free. And then something incredibly

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ironic happens. He gets Sartred. Ah, yes. The

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Sartre effect. In 1952, Jean -Paul Sartre, who

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was then the high priest of existentialism, wrote

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a massive analysis of Genet. It was called Saint

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-Genet. Saint -Genet. It sounds like a canonization,

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and in a way it was. How long was this book?

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It was a 600 -page philosophical tome. I mean,

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huge. Sartre analyzes Genet's every move, every

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word. He explains Genet's existential development

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from vagrant to writer. He basically takes Genet

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apart like a clock to show the world how he works.

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And how did Genet take that? I can't imagine

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having a genius explain you to yourself is a

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comfortable experience. He hated it. Or maybe

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it's more accurate to say it paralyzed him. He

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was so deeply affected by being explained. by

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being turned into a philosophical object, a case

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study, that he got severe writer's block. He

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stopped writing. He didn't write fiction for

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the next five years. That is the ultimate irony,

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isn't it? Sartre helps save him from a literal

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prison, but then imprisons him in a book. Genet

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himself said he felt stripped naked. He felt

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like he had been buried by Sartre. Once the mystery

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of the artist is dissected and explained, can

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you still create the illusion? He didn't think

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so for a while. So he goes quiet, but he doesn't

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stay quiet forever. When he comes back, he shifts

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gears entirely. He moves from novels to the stage.

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This brings us to phase three, the theater of

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illusion. Right. And if the novels were about

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excavating his own past, the plays were about

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the structures of power itself. He became obsessed

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with ritual, with mirrors, with masks. Let's

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talk about The Maids. This is one of his most

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famous plays, and he actually wrote it earlier

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in 1947, but it really gained traction later.

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The maids is a perfect example of this. It's

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an intense study in role play and identity. You

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have two maids, Solange and Claire. And when

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their mistress is away, they perform this elaborate

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ritual. What do they do? They take turns playing

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the mistress and the maid. They wear her clothes.

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They imitate her voice. They abuse each other

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in character. They fantasize about killing the

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real mistress. So it's like Downton Abbey on

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a heavy dose of acid. That's one way to put it.

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It's all about social identity. Who are you when

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you're wearing the uniform versus when you take

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it off? Is the mistress only powerful because

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the maids agree to play the role of the oppressed?

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It's about the performance of class. And then

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he follows that up with the balcony in 1957.

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This one sounds even more trippy. The balcony

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is a masterpiece of the absurd. And it's so politically

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sharp. It's set in a brothel. There's not a normal

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brothel. How so? It's a house of illusions. Clients

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don't come there for sex in the usual way. They

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come there. to simulate roles of power. So you

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go there to pretend to be important. Exactly.

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A gas man comes to pretend he's a bishop. He

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wears the robes. He hears confessions. He forgives

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sins. Another man comes to be a judge, a general.

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They're surrounded by mirrors, and they essentially

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rent authority by the hour. That feels incredibly

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relevant to the social media age, doesn't it?

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Curating an avatar of who you want to be. It's

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extremely prescient. But here's the brilliant

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twist in the play. Outside the brothel. A real

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revolution is happening. The regime falls. The

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real bishop, the real judge, and the real general

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are all killed or have fled. So there's a power

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vacuum. Total power vacuum. So the chief of police

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comes to the brothel and begs the clients, the

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fake bishop, the fake judge, to go out onto the

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balcony and face the crowd. They have to become

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the figures they were only pretending to be in

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order to save the system. That is brilliant.

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It completely blurs the line between fantasy

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and political reality. It suggests that power

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is just a costume that anyone can wear. Jeanette

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is saying that all authority is a performance.

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If you wear the robe and speak the lines convincingly

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enough, the crowd will bow. And then we get to

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the blacks in 1958. Now, this sounds like his

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most direct and maybe most controversial work

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regarding race. It is. It's a critical dramatization

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of negritude, which was the black identity movement.

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The play presents a group of black actors who

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are performing a ritualistic murder of a white

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woman. And they're doing this before a court

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of white authority figures. OK. But. And here's

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the classic Jeanette twist. The white court is

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played by black actors wearing white masks. So

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there are no white actors on stage? None. It's

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layers upon layers of performance. Yeah. He's

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exploring the mask that black people were forced

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to wear in a white -dominated society, but he's

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also deconstructing it from the inside. He wasn't

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trying to speak for black people so much as he

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was exposing the complete absurdity of the racial

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hierarchy itself. And I read that the production

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history of this was huge in New York. This wasn't

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some obscure arthouse play. It was massive. The

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1961 New York production ran for 1 ,408 performances.

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It was the longest -running off -Broadway non

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-musical of the entire decade. And the cast.

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My God, the cast. It was in it. James Earl Jones,

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Louis Gossett Jr., Cicely Tyson, Maya Angelou.

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Charles Gordon. That is a Hall of Fame lineup.

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That's unbelievable. It was a powerhouse production.

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And it shows that Genet's work, despite being

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very French and very avant -garde, resonated

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so deeply with the American civil rights struggle.

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Yeah. They saw their own fight reflected in his

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Hall of Mirrors. Which leads us perfectly into

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phase four. Because Genet didn't just write about

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these struggles from a cafe in Paris. He actually

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went to the front lines. This is the part of

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the story that always surprises people. The radical

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activists. The shift really happens after May

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1968. You know, the student uprisings in Paris.

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Genet, who had been relatively quiet for a while,

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suddenly woke up politically. He felt the energy

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of the moment. He did. He started with an homage

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to Daniel Cohn -Bendit, the student leader. He

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started looking at the terrible living conditions

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of immigrants in France. And then in 1970, he

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gets this really unexpected invitation. From

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the Black Panthers. From the Black Panthers,

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yes. The Revolutionary Black Power Organization

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in the U .S. invited this elderly white French

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gay writer to come and visit them. And he went.

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He didn't just go for a photo op. He stayed for

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three months. He toured the United States. He

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gave lectures at universities to raise money

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for their legal defense funds. He attended the

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trial of Huey Newton. He wrote articles for their

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journals like Here and Now for Bobby Seale. He

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was all in. I have to ask about the logistics

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here. He's a convicted criminal in France. The

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U .S. in 1970 wasn't exactly handing out visas

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to radical ex -cons who wanted to hang out with

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the Black Panthers. Oh, he was absolutely refused

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a visa. He had been expelled or refused entry

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back in 1968. So in 1970, he just ignored it.

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What do you mean he ignored it? He flew to Canada

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and crossed the border illegally. That is so

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perfectly Genet. The law says, no, I'll just

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find a backdoor. It's the thief's mentality applied

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to international travel. It's exactly that. And

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he felt this incredibly deep solidarity with

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the Panthers. He saw the police brutality against

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black Americans and recognized the exact same

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machinery of oppression that he had faced as

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a poor youth in France. He wrote very bluntly

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about it. He said the Americans kill off blacks.

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He saw it as a systemic extermination. And his

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activism didn't stop in the U .S. After this,

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he went to the Middle East. Later in that same

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year, 1970, he went to Jordan and he spent six

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months living in Palestinian refugee camps. Six

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months, not just a visit. He was living there,

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sleeping in tents. Living with the fedayeen,

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the fighters, learning their struggle from the

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inside. He even secretly met Yasser Arafat near

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Amman. He was totally immersed in that world.

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What was he looking for there? Was this just

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some kind of radical tourism? I don't think so.

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I really think he was looking for a new kind

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of outcast community. In the refugee camps, he

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found a people who were displaced, who were rejected

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by the world, living on the margins, just like

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the prisoners he used to live with. But with

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a key difference. A key difference. Unlike the

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prisoners, these people had a collective political

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purpose. They weren't just individuals surviving.

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They were a nation fighting for a homeland. And

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this commitment, it lasted until the end of his

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life, right? He was in Beirut in 1982 during

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a truly horrific event. September 1982. The Sabra

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and Shatila massacre. The Falangist militia,

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while the area was under Israeli control, massacred

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hundreds, perhaps thousands, of Palestinian Lebanese

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Shiite civilians in the refugee camps. And Jene

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was in Beirut when this happened. He was in the

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city. And he was one of the very first Westerners

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to enter the camp after the killing stopped.

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My God, that must have been a vision of hell.

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He described it that way. Walking through streets

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piled with bodies. Swollen corpses, flies everywhere.

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The smell. And he did what he does best. He bore

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witness. He wrote an essay called Four Hours

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in Chatila. And it's not journalism. It's not

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standard journalism at all. It's a poetic witnessing

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of horror. He describes the strange, almost theatrical

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positioning of the bodies, the smells, the textures

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of death. He forces you to look at the decay,

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at the abject. It's almost like his entire life,

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his entire artistic project prepared him for

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that moment. He had spent decades finding the

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humanity or the beauty in the abject, in the

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dark corners of life. And now he was applying

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that same unflinching gaze to a war crime. I

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think that's exactly right. He later read this

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text at a public event. in Vienna in 1983. It

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was one of his last major public appearances.

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And all of this culminated in his final book,

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right? Prisoner of Love. Published posthumously

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in 1986. Prisoner of Love is a memoir, but it

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has this very different documentary tone. It

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chronicles his time with both the Panthers and

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the Palestinians. He wasn't inventing Divine

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or the Queen of Romania anymore. He was documenting

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the real life saints of the revolution as he

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saw them. We should also mention he kept up the

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fight in Europe, too. He supported Angela Davis,

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wrote the intro to George Jackson's prison letters,

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Soledad Brother. And back in France, he worked

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with Michel Foucault and Sartre to protest police

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brutality against Algerians. This was deeply

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personal for him. He remembered the 1961 Paris

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Massacre, where Algerian protesters were beaten

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by police and their bodies thrown into the Seine

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River. Chenet never forgot that kind of state

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violence. He even expressed solidarity with the

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Boeder -Meinhof group, the Red Army faction in

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Germany, in 1977. Which again shows his consistency,

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as unsettling as it can be. If the state called

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them terrorists, Jeunet was immediately interested.

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He wrote an article called Violence and Brutality,

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arguing that the violence of the revolutionary

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is always a response to the pre -existing brutality

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of the state. OK, let's move into our final section,

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what we can call controversy, cinema and pop

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culture, because Jeunet didn't just exist in

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highbrow literature and radical politics. He

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bled into the, you know, the cool factor of pop

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culture. Absolutely. And we have to start with

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his own film, Ashonda Moore, A Song of Love,

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which he directed in 1950. I've heard of this.

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It was banned for decades, wasn't it? For a very

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long time. It's a 26 minute black and white silent

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film. It depicts two male prisoners in adjacent

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cells. They can't see each other, but they find

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ways to communicate. They share cigarette smoke

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through a straw pushed through a hole in the

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wall. They swing a garland of flowers on a string

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between their barred windows. It's incredibly

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erotic, very explicit for its time, and stylistically

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just gorgeous. It sounds like a music video before

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music videos even existed. It totally does. And

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it influenced a huge amount of queer cinema.

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Later, you have great directors adapting his

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work. Rainer Werner Fathbender's final film was

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Querelle, based on Genet's book Querelle of Breast.

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And Todd Haynes' first feature, Poison, from

00:26:06.619 --> 00:26:10.119
1991, is deeply based on Genet's writings. And

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speaking of music... We have to talk about David

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Bowie. It's a Jean Genie. I honestly never made

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the connection until I read these notes. Jean

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Genie? Jean Genet? It's so obvious now that you

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see it. Bowie confirmed it himself in his book

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Moonish Daydream. He called it a clumsy pun on

00:26:24.200 --> 00:26:26.500
Jean Genie. He was absolutely channeling that

00:26:26.500 --> 00:26:28.839
same androgynous pretty boy criminal energy.

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And it didn't stop there. The Libertines, Pete

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Doherty, that whole mid -2000s indie sleaze aesthetic.

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Oh, totally. Pete already cites Jene as a main

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influence. He references Miracle of the Rose

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directly in his lyrics. The cover of his collected

00:26:43.660 --> 00:26:46.059
journals is even inspired by the first edition

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of Our Lady of the Flowers. That whole romanticized,

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poetic, junkie -slash -criminal aesthetic is

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pure Jene. Even Dire Straits referenced him in

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their song Less Boys. He really became a symbol,

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a kind of shorthand for gritty, intellectual

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rebellion. He was the patron saint of the bad

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boy artist, the ultimate outlaw. Before we wrap

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up with his death and legacy, we have to touch

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on that BBC interview one last time, the one

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from 1985 with Nigel Williams. It's a fascinating

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watch. It was just a year before his death, and

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he's so combative. He completely refuses to play

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the role of the nice old writer looking back

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on his life. He compared the interview itself

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to a police interrogation. He did. He was provocative,

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difficult, and brilliant to the very end. So

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how does the story end for him? Well, Jeanne

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developed throat cancer. He was quite ill. And

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he was found dead on April 15, 1986. Where? In

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a hospital. A nice chateau in the countryside.

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No. At Jack's Hotel in Paris. A modest, simple,

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one -star hotel near the Gare de Lyon. There

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is something so poetic and fitting about that.

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He started his adult life as a vagabond, and

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he died in a transient hotel room. It seems he

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fell during the night and hit his head, which

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was likely the fatal injury. And the hotel, to

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this day, still keeps his photograph and books

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there. As a small shrine. And his burial. Did

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France finally claim him for the Pantheon alongside

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their other literary giants? Not a chance. This

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is his final act of rejection. He is buried in

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the La Roche Christian Cemetery in Morocco. Facing

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the sea. In a land that was once a French colony,

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surrounded by the marginalized people he spent

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his later years supporting. It was the only fitting

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resting place for a man who never felt at home

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in France. So let's try to land the plane here.

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We've covered the crimes, the books, the plays,

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the Panthers, the camps. What does it all mean?

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Why does Jean Genet still matter today? I think

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Genet matters because he forces us to confront

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the other. Not just the concept of it, but the

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reality of it. He doesn't just ask us to tolerate

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the outcast. He asks us to admire them, to find

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the sacred in them. He completely challenges

00:28:50.799 --> 00:28:53.380
the foundation of our moral compass. Completely.

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He suggests that in betrayal... In crime, in

00:28:57.130 --> 00:28:59.890
the absolute refusal to conform, there is a kind

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of holiness. Now, you don't have to agree with

00:29:02.349 --> 00:29:04.109
him. In fact, his statements about the Nazis

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make it very hard to agree with him wholesale.

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But you cannot ignore the mirror he holds up

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to society. He shows us that the people we lock

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away have voices. And that sometimes those voices

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are more eloquent, more profound, and more beautiful

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than our own. That's a powerful takeaway. He

00:29:19.049 --> 00:29:21.769
finds the saint in the sinner. And just as importantly,

00:29:21.990 --> 00:29:24.170
the sinner in the saint. I want to leave our

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listeners with one final provocative thought

00:29:26.289 --> 00:29:29.029
to chew on. You mentioned his essay on the sculptor

00:29:29.029 --> 00:29:31.829
Alberto Gicometti. And there's this incredible

00:29:31.829 --> 00:29:35.130
quote from Jeannette about Gicometti's thin spectral

00:29:35.130 --> 00:29:37.990
statues. He said they should be offered to the

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dead and that they should be buried. It's such

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a haunting idea. Art that isn't for the living,

00:29:42.609 --> 00:29:45.529
but for the dead. Kind of funerary offering.

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It makes me wonder about Jeannette's own work.

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Was he really writing for us, the living audience

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in the bookshops and theaters, or was he creating

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these monuments, these novels, these plays, to

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be buried alongside his own dead? Was funeral

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rites really for us, or was it a grave good for

00:30:01.579 --> 00:30:04.339
his lover, Jean de Carnon? Were all his books

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just monuments to the ghosts of Maitre? That

00:30:07.200 --> 00:30:09.480
is a beautiful and provocative thought. Perhaps

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we are just grave robbers reading texts that

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were meant for the ghosts. Something to mull

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over. Thank you for joining us on this deep dive

00:30:16.940 --> 00:30:19.380
into the complex, contradictory, and brilliant

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life of Jean Genet. My pleasure. It was a fascinating

00:30:21.980 --> 00:30:23.839
journey. And to our listeners, keep reading,

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keep questioning, and we'll see you on the next

00:30:26.059 --> 00:30:26.539
deep dive.
