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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. Today we are starting

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with the fact that it sounds like it was invented

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by a novelist, but it's actually just a bizarre

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geographic reality. It really does. It's one

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of those things you couldn't make up. Exactly.

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Picture the year 1867. We are in Sicily, just

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outside the ancient city of Agrigento. There

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is a specific suburb, a rough, craggy area, and

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the locals have a name for it. They call it Caus.

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Which, of course, translates directly to chaos.

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Right. And I don't mean chaos in the metaphorical

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sense of, you know, a messy bedroom. I mean the

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primordial void. And it was right there in a

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place explicitly named chaos that Luigi Pirandello

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was born. It feels like the universe was engaging

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in a bit of heavy handed literary foreshadowing,

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doesn't it? It really does. Pirandello himself

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was completely obsessed with this. He saw it

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as his destiny. Oh, absolutely. He spent his

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entire life obsessing over that coincidence.

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He famously wrote, I am a child of chaos, not

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metaphorically, but in reality. For him, it wasn't

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just a funny anecdote about his birth certificate.

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It was the fundamental truth of his existence.

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He believed he was born into a formless, confused

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reality and that everything human beings do.

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Building societies, taking names, wearing clothes,

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adopting roles is just a desperate attempt to

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impose order on that original chaos. And that

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struggle between the raw chaotic flux of life

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and the rigid forms we try to trap it in. That's

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the engine of everything we're discussing today,

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isn't it? It is. It's the core tension in all

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of his work. We're looking at a man who is. well,

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arguably the most important Italian playwright

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of the 20th century, a Nobel Prize winner, and

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the guy who essentially invented the tragic farce.

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He's the bridge. He is the bridge between the

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19th and 20th centuries. He took the solid, reliable

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storytelling of the Victorian era and just smashed

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it into pieces to show us the anxiety and fragmentation

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of the modern world. Yeah, that's a great way

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to put it. I mean, if you've ever felt like you're

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playing a role at work that is totally different

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from who you are at home, or if you've ever questioned

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whether you really know the people around you,

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you are living in a Pirandellian world. You really

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are. His ideas have seeped into the very fabric

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of how we think about ourselves. We have a massive

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stack of sources to get through today. We've

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got his biographies, his letters, the critical

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analysis of his plays, like six characters in

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search of an author, and extensive historical

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context on the unification of Italy and the rise

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of fascism. A lot to unpack. A lot. And our mission

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is pretty clear. We want to understand how a

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wealthy... comfortable Sicilian sun transformed

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into the master of disillusionment. We need to

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unpack his philosophy on identity, this terrifying

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idea that we don't actually exist as solid individuals.

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And we need to navigate the very real, very messy

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political life he led. Including the topic that

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often gets, you know, glossed over in high school

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literature classes, his membership in the fascist

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party and his complicated relationship with Mussolini.

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Which is a paradox wrapped in a reel. Yeah. But

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before we get to the politics and the riots in

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the theaters, let's go back to the map. You mentioned

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the name Cass. I was digging into the etymology

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in the notes, and it's actually quite grounded,

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which I found funny. It comes from the Sicilian

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dialect word causi. Right, which means trousers

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or pants. Trousers. It seems less philosophical

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when you put it that way. It does. It referred

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to the shape of a ravine nearby that's split

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in two, looking like a pair of legs or trousers.

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But language is fluid, you know? Yeah. Cousy

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sounded enough like the Greek cows. and given

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the history of the area exactly given the intense

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creek history of sicily i mean remember agrigento

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was acragas a massive greek colony the association

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just stuck it became chaos a much better story

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it's a much better story and speaking of greek

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roots pirandello's own name has a history there

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His surname wasn't originally Pirandello. No.

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The family traced its lineage back to the name

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Parangelos. He was of Greek descent, and this

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wasn't just trivia to him. In a 1934 interview,

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specifically regarding his Nobel Prize, he highlighted

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this. He felt a deep connection to classical

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tragedy, to the ancient world that was literally

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buried in the soil under his feet. He saw himself

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as a Sicilian, yes, but specifically a Sicilian

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with that tragic ancient Greek DNA. So we have

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this boy. Born in chaos, with the weight of Greek

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tragedy in his name, but his immediate reality

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was very 19th century industrial. His father,

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Stefano, wasn't a philosopher. Not at all. He

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was a businessman in the sulfur trade. And from

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what I read about the Sicilian sulfur industry

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in the 1800s, this was not a gentle line of work.

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It was brutal. Sulfur was known as the gold of

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Sicily, but extracting it was hellish. We're

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talking about deep, hot, dangerous mines often

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worked by children, the Carusi, who were essentially

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enslaved. Wow. And Stefano Pirandello was a leaseholder

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of these mines. He was a big, robust, physically

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imposing man who made a fortune in this rough

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industry. And his mother, Caterina Ricci Grimito,

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came from a very different background. Very different.

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She was from the bourgeois professional class,

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but there's a political thread that ties both

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families together, and I think this is absolutely

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crucial for the listener to understand. Okay.

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Both the Pirandellos and the Ricci Grimittos

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were fierce patriots. They were anti -bourbon.

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They were pro -unification. So to understand

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Pirandello's cynicism later in life, you have

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to understand the idealism of his parents. This

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was the era of the Risorgimento, the resurgence.

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Exactly. For decades, Italy had been a collection

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of fragmented states and foreign -controlled

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territories. The Bourbons controlled the South.

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The dream was a unified, democratic Italy. A

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noble dream. A very noble dream. Stefano Pirandello

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fought with Garibaldi. Caterina's family suffered

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for the cause. Her father was a target of the

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monarchy, and she was forced into exile in Malta

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when she was just 13. 13. So they were true believers.

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They thought that once the Red Shirts won and

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Italy was one nation, it would be a utopia of

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justice and liberty. Precisely. And then 1861

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happened. Unification was achieved, and almost

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immediately the Great Disappointment set in.

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Let's drill down into that Great Disappointment,

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because it feels like this is the moment the

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seed of Pirandello's worldview was planted. What

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exactly went wrong? Well, the reality of the

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new Italy was starkly different from the romantic

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dream. Instead of a brotherhood of free Italians,

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the South felt like it had simply been conquered

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by the North, by Piedmont. Right, it wasn't a

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union, it was an acquisition. That's how it felt.

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The new government was viewed as incredibly bureaucratic,

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corrupt, and distant. Taxes went up. Conscription

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was enforced. The poverty in Sicily didn't go

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away. In some ways, it got worse. So Pirandello

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grows up in a house full of people who sacrificed

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everything for a great ideal only to watch that

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ideal turn into a corrupt, paper -pushing nightmare.

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That is the generational trauma. He watched his

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parents, particularly his mother, become bitter.

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The lesson he learned at the dinner table was

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that big ideals are often illusions. He calls

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this the sense of disproportion between ideals

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and reality. And that's a phrase that comes up

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again and again. It's key. If the greatest, most

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noble cause of your parents' generation turned

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out to be a lie, or at least a hollow disappointment,

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How can you trust any truth with a capital T?

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It creates a fundamental skepticism. And it wasn't

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just the politics that were failing to live up

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to the hype. The domestic situation in the Pirandello

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household was also, let's call it complicated

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and understating. The relationship between his

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mother and father was a major source of tension.

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It was incredibly fraught. Stefano, the father,

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was a man of the minds, rough. authoritative,

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and prone to what we might call extracurricular

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activity. Right. Luigi discovered early on that

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his father was having affairs. He did, and that

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has to be devastating for a sensitive child.

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You have this mother who is already politically

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disillusioned, and now she's being betrayed in

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her own home. It created a deep, permanent rift

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between Luigi and his father, didn't it? It did.

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He viewed his father as a source of brute force

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and hypocrisy. But inevitably, this pushed him

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closer to his mother. He developed a veneration

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for her that bordered on the obsessive. She became

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his saint. The long -suffering saint. Yes. And

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I read about the novella he wrote, After She

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Died, colloquy con i personaggi, conversations

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with characters. It sounds almost ghost -like.

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It is. He writes about trying to keep her spirit

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alive, conversing with her. This dynamic. The

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suffering saintly woman and the domineering,

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unfaithful or simply incomprehensible husband

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became a blueprint for his fiction. You see it

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over and over again. So the family unit in Pirandello's

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work is rarely a place of comfort. Never. It's

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a trap. It's a place where people are forced

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to wear masks to survive each other. OK, so we

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have. The chaos of his birth, the great disappointment

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of politics, and the betrayal of the father.

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Young Luigi is a smart kid, obviously. He starts

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writing early. He writes his first tragedy at

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age 12. But his dad, being the practical sulfur

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businessman, wants him to go to technical school.

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Right. Stefano wanted a successor for the mines.

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He don't want a poet. But Luigi managed to maneuver

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his way into a classical education, finishing

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high school in Palermo. And it's there that he

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fell in love with his cousin, Lina. And this

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wasn't just a puppy love situation, right? This

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was serious. Oh, very serious. It was intense

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enough that Lina's family demanded he stop his

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studies and go work in the sulfur mines so he

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could afford to marry her immediately. Wow. And

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he did it. He did. And surprisingly, given his

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hatred for his father's business, he actually

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did it. In 1886, he spent time working in the

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mines of... I think that period in the minds

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is crucial context. Yeah. We think of Pirandello

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as this high -minded philosopher. But he saw

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the sweaty, dangerous reality of labor. He did.

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He saw the carusi, the child laborers. He saw

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the brutality. This experience informed works

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like Ciala Scopri la Luna, Ciala Discovers the

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Moon. It grounded his existentialism in dirt

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and rock. Yeah. He knew that for many people,

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life wasn't an abstract concept. It was a struggle

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to breathe. But eventually, the marriage plans

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with Lena were postponed and he returned to academia.

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He went to the University of Rome in 1887. And

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here we go with the great disappointment, part

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two. He arrives in Rome, the eternal city. He's

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probably expecting marble statues, heroes, the

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glory of the Caesars, and the Risorgimento. And

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he finds rain. Mud. A total letdown. There's

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a specific quote about his arrival in Rome that

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I think perfectly encapsulates his developing

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personality. The desperate laugh. That's the

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one. He said, That is the desperate laugh. Bookmark

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that because it is the key to his entire artistic

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philosophy. He realized in that moment, that

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when reality is overwhelmingly disappointing,

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when the tragedy is so absurd that tears aren't

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enough, the only authentic reaction is to laugh.

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But it's not a funny laugh. It's not ha -ha.

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I know. It's a defensive reflex. It's a spasm.

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It's the laugh of someone seeing the cosmic joke.

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Rome wasn't grand. It was petty. He stayed with

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an uncle who was a graying and exhausted functionary.

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And this uncle had been a patriot, a fighter.

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Exactly. And now he was just... pushing paper

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in a dim office. Rome was a monument to decadence

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and mediocrity for him. His time at the University

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of Rome didn't end well either. He got into a

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fight with a Latin professor. A very serious

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dispute. It was significant enough that he was

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effectively expelled or forced to leave. But

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this turned out to be a blessing in disguise.

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He transferred to the University of Bonn in Germany

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to finish his doctorate. And this German period

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seems like the missing link in understanding

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his brain. He wasn't just soaking up Italian

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culture. He was getting a heavy dose of German

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philosophy. Absolutely. In Bonn, he was reading

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the German romantics, Götze, Heine, Teek. He

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was absorbing a different kind of thinking, one

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that was deeply concerned with the nature of

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the self, irony, and the grotesque. So it was

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in Germany that he began to formulate his theories

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on humorism. That's right. He was translating

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Dutta. He was stepping outside the Sicilian mental

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box and looking at his own culture from a distance.

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So he gets his doctorate on the dialect of Agrigento,

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ironically returning to his roots, and comes

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back to Rome in the 1890s. He's in his 20s. He's

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writing. He's mingling with the literary crowd

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like Luigi Capuano. And the topic of marriage

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comes up again. Yes. The affair with his cousin

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Lina had fizzled out. In 1894, his father, Stefano,

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stepped in to arrange a marriage. The bride was

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Maria Antonietta Portilano. An arranged marriage.

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This was essentially a business merger, wasn't

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it? In many ways, yes. Antonietta was the daughter

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of a business associate. She was a shy, withdrawn

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girl raised in a very sheltered environment by

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nuns. And she had a substantial dowry. A very

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substantial dowry, which Stefano Pirandello invested

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into his business. So Luigi marries her. They

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settle in Rome. And for a while, on the surface,

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it looks like the standard bourgeois life. They

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have three kids, Stefano, Rosalia, and Fausto.

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Luigi is teaching, writing essays, getting published.

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It was a deceptive stability. There were cracks.

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Antonietta didn't really understand his heart.

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She wasn't an intellectual partner. But they

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were comfortable, and then came 1903. The year

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the floor fell out. A catastrophe. It sounds

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like a plot twist that a writer would reject

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for being too dramatic. A literal flood. A flood

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in the sulfur mines of Aragona. And we have to

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understand the financial mechanics here to see

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why this was total ruin. Stefano Pirandello hadn't

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just invested his own money. He had invested

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Antonietta's entire dowry, her financial security,

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her identity as a woman of status into those

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mines. So the water rushes in, destroys the mines,

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and the money vanishes. Instantly. The Pirandello

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family went from wealthy to effectively bankrupt

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overnight. But the loss of money was just the

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trigger. The real explosion was psychological.

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This is where we need to talk about Antoniana.

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How does she take the news? She was the one who

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opened the letter announcing the disaster. The

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shock was so profound that it induced a physical

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collapse. She was paralyzed for a time. And when

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she emerged from that paralysis, her mental landscape

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had completely shattered. And it wasn't just

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depression or sadness. It manifested as a very

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specific, aggressive paranoia. It was a monomania.

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Pathological jealousy. She became convinced with

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absolutely no evidence that Luigi was cheating

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on her. She believed he was hiding wealth from

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her, that he was conspiring against her. She

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would scream. She would become physically violent.

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Think about the irony here. Yeah. Luigi grew

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up hating his father for being a cheater. He

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prided himself on being a dedicated family man.

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And now he is trapped in a house where he's being

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accused day and night of the very sin he despises

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most. It was a pressure cooker. A complete nightmare.

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He was teaching extra classes to make ends meet,

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writing furiously to sell stories, and then coming

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home to a wife who might attack him or scream

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at him for hours. He later admitted he contemplated

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suicide during this period. He did. He looked

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out the window and thought about ending it. But

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he didn't. And this is the pivot point of his

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life. Instead of killing himself, he wrote the

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late Mattia Pascal. Which is famously a book

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about a man who fakes his death. You can see

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the wish fulfillment dripping off the page. It

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is raw autobiography in the form of fantasy.

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He sat by his wife's bedside, writing while she

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slept or raved, and he imagined a character,

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Matia Pascal, who is trapped in a miserable marriage

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and a dead -end job. Right. Matia wins some money

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at a casino, and on his way home, he finds out

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that the authorities have found a body in a mill

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race and identified it as him. Matia is officially

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dead. And his reaction is joy. Pure joy. He thinks,

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I'm free. I can go anywhere. I can be anyone.

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He changes his name to Adriano Mice. He travels.

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He tries to start over. But this is where Pirandello

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pulls the rug out. Yeah. Because Matia or Adriano

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realizes that being free is actually... A nightmare.

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Exactly. He tries to fall in love, but he can't

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marry because he has no papers. He is robbed,

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but he can't go to the police because Adriano

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Maez doesn't exist. He realizes that outside

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of the mask of society, the name, the tax ID,

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the marital status, a human being is a non -entity.

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A ghost. He is a ghost floating through the world.

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The freedom was an illusion. So what happens?

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The freedom was a form of death. Mattia eventually

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has to fake his own suicide as Adriana Mice,

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and then he goes back to his old village. But

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his wife has remarried, so he ends up living

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in a library, visiting his own grave. He is the

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late Mattia Pascal. He is neither alive nor dead.

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This book, published in 1904. changed everything

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for Pirandello. It was a massive hit. It was

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an international success. It was translated into

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German. It was acclaimed. It gave him the financial

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footing to keep going. But philosophically, it

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established his core theme, the mask. We complain

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about the masks we wear, father, employee, citizen,

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but without them, we dissolve. This brings us

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to his theoretical masterpiece. In 1908, he publishes

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the essay Lumerismo Humorism. And we need to

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be really careful with this word because in English,

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humor means jokes. Right. It means stand -up

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comedy. That is not what Pirandello means. Not

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at all. He makes a crucial distinction between

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the comical and the humorous. Right. And it's

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a brilliant distinction. Walk us through that.

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Okay, the comical is the warning of the contrary.

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The example he gives is an elderly lady who has

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dyed her hair neon blonde, is wearing heavy makeup,

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and is dressed in clothes meant for a teenager.

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Okay. When you see her, you laugh. Why? Because

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she is the opposite of what an old lady should

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be. That immediate perception of the opposite

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is the comic. It's the surface -level reaction.

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She looks ridiculous. All right, but now Pirandello

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says apply reflection. Think about why she is

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doing that. Maybe she has a younger husband who

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is losing interest in her. Maybe she spends her

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nights weeping, terrified of being abandoned,

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and she wears those clothes as a desperate, pathetic

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attempt to hold on to love. And suddenly you

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can't laugh anymore. Or if you do, the laugh

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is bitter. That shift from the warning of the

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contrary to the feeling of the contrary is humorism.

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It's when you see the tragedy inside the comedy.

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It's a mix of pity and amusement. It destroys

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the ability to judge the character as a villain

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or a hero. You just see a suffering human being

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dealing with the absurdity of life. Exactly.

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And this wasn't just an academic theory for him.

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This was his daily life with Antonietta. Of course.

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A neighbor hearing Antonietta scream might think

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she was a monster. That's the comic or superficial

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view. But Pirandello, living with her, saw the

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humorous truth. She was a terrified woman whose

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mind had broken under the weight of trauma. He

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couldn't just hate her. He had to understand

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the tragedy within her madness. This ability

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to hold two opposing truths in his head at the

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same time, she is my tormentor and she is a victim,

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leads us to the concept that I think is most

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relevant to us today. The concept of one, no

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one, and 100 ,000. Uno, Nessuno, e 100 ,000.

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It is the title of his last novel, and it's the

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summary of his entire existence. The premise

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of this book is so simple, it's maddening. The

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protagonist, the Tangelo Mascarda, is standing

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in front of a mirror, and his wife casually says,

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you know, your nose tilts a little to the right.

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Mascarda is stunned. He has looked at his face

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every day for his entire life and he never noticed

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his nose tilted. He realizes in that split second

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that the Mascarda he knows, the one in his head,

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is completely different from the Mascarda his

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wife sees. And if his wife sees a different version

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than his friends see another version and the

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bank teller sees another, the list goes on. We

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are one to ourselves. But we are 100 ,000 to

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the people around us. Every person you meet constructs

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a version of you in their mind. You are the nice

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guy to one, the jerk to another, the competent

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employee to a third. And because there are 100

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,000 versions of you floating around, you are

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ultimately no one. There is no solid, immutable

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core. If you stripped away all the reflections,

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all the relationships, all the perceptions, there

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is nothing left but flux. Let's apply this to

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the modern listener. I mean, think about social

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media. You have your LinkedIn profile. That's

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a mask. You have your Instagram, another mask.

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You have the way you talk in a group chat with

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your college friends versus the family WhatsApp

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group. Pirandello is asking, if you deleted all

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those accounts and you sat alone in a dark room,

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who was there? And his answer is terrifying.

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Nobody is there. Or rather, a constantly changing

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stream of consciousness is there, but not a fixed

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self. We are built by the gaze of others. This

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philosophy was forged in the fire of his home

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life. We have to talk about the progression of

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Antonietta's illness. He kept her at home for

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a long time. He did. For over 15 years. He refused

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to institutionalize her. He believed it was his

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duty. But the violence escalated. The paranoia

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became dangerous for the children, especially

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their daughter Lieta, who Antonieta targeted

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aggressively. That's just awful. It was untenable.

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Finally, in 1919, he makes the call. He places

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her in a private clinic. Yes. It was supposed

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to be temporary. He wrote letters saying he hoped

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to bring her back, but she never left. She remained

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there until her death in 1959. long after Pirandello

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himself had died. But this proximity to madness,

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living with it for decades, gave him a unique

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perspective for the stage. In most plays before

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this, a mad character was a plot device. They

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were just crazy. Right, a caricature. But Pirandello

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treats madness differently. How so? He treats

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madness as a valid epistemological stance. Look

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at his play, Henry IV. A man falls off a horse

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during a costume party and hits his head. He

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wakes up believing he is the Holy Roman Emperor,

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Henry IV. He lives in a castle. He makes his

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servants dress up in period clothing. 20 years.

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Right. But the twist is that at a certain point,

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he regains his sanity. He realizes he isn't the

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emperor, but he looks at the sane world, a world

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of treachery, aging and pain. And he decides,

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no, thanks. He chooses to pretend to stay mad.

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Yes. He chooses the mask of the emperor because

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it is stable. It is safe in that role. Time has

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stopped. Nothing can hurt him. So the madman

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is actually the only one making a rational choice

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to control his reality. Precisely. Pirandelle

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is asking who is really crazy. The man who plays

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one role perfectly forever or the same people

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who lie, cheat, wear makeup to hide their age

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and change their opinions every five minutes.

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It's a profound question. And it brings us to

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1921. The year Pirandello decided to break the

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theater. Six characters in search of an author.

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This is the big one. If Mattia Pascal was his

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novelistic breakthrough, six characters was the

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earthquake that shut Western drama. Let's set

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the scene. It's the premiere at the Val Theater

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in Rome. The audience is seated. They're expecting

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a play. And what do they see? Nothing. The curtain

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is up. The stage is bare. There is no set. A

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group of actors walks out in their street rehearsal

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clothes and they start chatting, warming up.

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They're acting like they're about to rehearse

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a Pirandello play. So the audience is already

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confused. Did the show start? Is this a mistake?

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Utter confusion. And then from the back of the

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theater or a side entrance, six figures appear.

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They are dressed in black, looking pale and intense.

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These are the characters. A father, a mother,

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a stepdaughter, a son, and two younger children.

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And their claim is mind -bending. It really is.

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They say, we are characters created by an author

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who imagined us but then decided not to write

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our story. We are unfinished. We need you to

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act out our drama so we can exist. the theater

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thinks they're lunatics. Of course. But the father

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argues brilliantly that characters are more real

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than living people. He says, a character has

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truly a life of his own. He is always somebody.

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But a man. A man may be nobody. Because Hamlet

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is always Hamlet. He never changes. He never

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disappoints you. A human being changes every

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second. Exactly. So the play becomes a battle

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between the characters who want their tragic

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story told with absolute truth and the actors

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who try to perform it but inevitably fake it.

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The stepdaughter screams at the leading lady,

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that's not how I laughed, you're doing it wrong.

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It's metatheater. It's a play about the failure

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of plays to capture reality. But the audience

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at the premiere... They didn't appreciate the

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philosophy. It was pandemonium. It wasn't just

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booze. It was a riot. People were shouting, Manicomio!

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Manicomio! Madhouse! Asylum! They felt insulted.

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They thought Pirandello was mocking them. There

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were fistfights in the stalls. Actual fistfights.

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And I read that Pirandello and his daughter Lieta

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had to escape through a side door to avoid being

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physically attacked. People were throwing coins

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at them. Wow. What a disaster. It was a disaster.

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He went home devastated. But here's the vindication.

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Mere months later, the play opened in Milan.

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And it was a triumph. A total reversal. Then

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London. Then New York. Then Paris. It swept the

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world. Why the turnaround? Why did the rest of

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the world get it when Rome didn't? I think the

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timing was perfect. This is the 1920s, post -World

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War I. The old world had collapsed. The old certainties

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of religion, empire, and logic had been blown

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apart by trench warfare. People were ready for

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it. They were ready for a type of art that said,

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reality is broken, truth is subjective. Pirandello

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gave form to the anxiety of the modern age. Okay,

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so by the mid -1920s, Pirandello is a global

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superstar. He is touring the world. But now we

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have to navigate the minefield. The fascist paradox.

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This is the elephant in the room. And we have

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to be precise here. In 1924, shortly after the

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Mattiotti crisis, which was a political murder

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that nearly brought down Mussolini's government.

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A huge scandal. A huge scandal. Pirandello sends

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a public telegram to Mussolini asking to join

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the National Fascist Party. The timing is baffling.

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Most intellectuals were fleeing the party or

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keeping their heads down. Pirandello, the man

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who questions everything, signs up right when

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the regime is showing its most brutal face. Why?

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I mean, what's the thing? Was it just opportunism?

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He needed money for his theater company, the

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Tetrodarts, right? That is the cynical interpretation.

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And it's partially true. He needed state funding

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to realize his dream of a national theater. Mussolini

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gave him that funding. But I don't think we can

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write it off purely as greed. There is a philosophical

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angle. Remember the chaos and the great disappointment.

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Pirandello despised the weak, corrupt democracy

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of liberal Italy, the system that had failed

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his parents. He might have seen fascism as a

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force of will, a way to impose form on the chaos.

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A strong hand to create order. Perhaps. He once

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said, I am a fascist because I am Italian, as

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if it were the only authentic choice. But at

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the same time, he described himself as apolitical

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and only a man in the world. That's the contradiction.

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He joined the party, but he refused to behave

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like a good party member. Not at all. The fascists

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didn't trust him. The secret police, the OVRA,

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kept a file on him. They spied on his mail. They

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tracked his movements. There's the story about

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the party card. Yes. In 1927, he apparently got

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into an argument with a fascist official about

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the censorship of art or theater management.

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In a rage, he tore his party membership card

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to pieces in front of the official. In 1927,

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Italy, that could get you sent to internal exile

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or worse. He was protected by his international

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fame. Mussolini couldn't just disappear a Nobel

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caliber author. But the relationship was cold.

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Pirandello realized that the fascist order he

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might have hoped for was just another mask, a

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particularly ugly hollow mask. And then we have

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the incident with the Nobel Prize medal. This

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one really confuses people. In 1935, Italy invades

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Ethiopia. The League of Nations imposes sanctions.

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Mussolini asks Italians to donate their gold

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to the state, the gold to the fatherland campaign.

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And Pirandello donates his Nobel medal to be

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melted down. That feels like a full endorsement

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of the war. How do you square that circle? You

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almost can't. It looks like a full endorsement.

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But look at what he was writing at the same time.

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He was working on The Giants of the Mountain.

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In that play, a group of poetic actors is destroyed

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by the servants of the giants. Industrial, powerful

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brutes who care nothing for art. The Giants of

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the Fascists. That is the standard reading. So

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physically, he hands his gold to the regime.

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Artistically, he writes a play about how the

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regime murders art. It is the ultimate dissociation.

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He was living one, no one, and 100 ,000 in his

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own political life. Completely. He was wearing

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the fascist badge, but the man underneath was

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screaming in the opposite direction. It's a tragedy

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in itself. He died before he could resolve it.

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He did. He won the Nobel Prize in 1934. Guglielmo

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Marconi nominated him. The committee cited his

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bold and ingenious revival of dramatic and scenic

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art. But by 1936, he is dying. And his death.

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Even his funeral arrangements were a final act

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of rebellion against the fascists. This is my

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favorite part of his story. It's so perfectly

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him. Mussolini wanted a state funeral. He wanted

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the pomp, the black shirts, the speeches, the

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glory of a fascist hero passing away. And Pirandello

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left a will that said essentially, over my dead

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body. He wrote, and I quote, dead let me not

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be clothed let me be naked as soon as possible

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let a hearse of the lowest class that of the

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poor transport me and let no one accompany me

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neither relatives nor friends the hearse the

00:29:20.700 --> 00:29:23.480
horse the driver and nothing more let me be naked

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After a lifetime of analyzing masks, he wanted

00:29:26.380 --> 00:29:28.859
to leave the world without one. Exactly. No uniform,

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no medal, no suit, just the man. And he requested

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cremation, which was shocking for Catholic Italy.

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He wanted his ashes taken back to Sicily to Kaus.

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But the journey of the ashes is a story in itself.

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It didn't happen right away. No, it was a whole

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saga. Because of the war, the ashes stayed in

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a vase in Rome for years. Finally, in 1947, after

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the war, they were transported to Sicily. But,

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and this is very Pirandellian, the vase was too

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big for... the crate they had you're kidding

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i'm not the american pilot refused to take it

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they had to pour his ashes into a simple cardboard

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box to fly him home a cardboard box after all

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that and then when they got to sicily they transferred

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them into a greek vase but the local bishop refused

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to bless a cremation urn It was a whole bureaucratic

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farce. Finally, they buried the ashes under a

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pine tree near his childhood home. Back to chaos.

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Morphic circle. When we look at his legacy today,

00:30:20.349 --> 00:30:22.529
it's everywhere. You mentioned the theater, the

00:30:22.529 --> 00:30:25.529
absurd earlier. You literally cannot have Samuel

00:30:25.529 --> 00:30:28.490
Beckett without Pirandello. Waiting for Godotu

00:30:28.490 --> 00:30:30.430
guys, waiting for something that never comes,

00:30:30.490 --> 00:30:33.190
debating their existence. That is Pirandello's

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DNA. Harold Pinter, Edward Albee. They all stand

00:30:36.130 --> 00:30:38.470
on his shoulders. The idea of language as a tool

00:30:38.470 --> 00:30:41.559
to hide, not to reveal. The uncertainty of identity.

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That's all him. And Jean -Paul Sartre. The French

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existentialists. Oh, absolutely. Sartre's entire

00:30:47.950 --> 00:30:51.349
concept of bad faith, the idea that we lie to

00:30:51.349 --> 00:30:53.529
ourselves to avoid the terrifying responsibility

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of freedom, is pure Pirandello. When Sartre says,

00:30:57.630 --> 00:31:00.329
hell is other people, he is echoing Pirandello's

00:31:00.329 --> 00:31:02.710
idea that other people are the ones who trap

00:31:02.710 --> 00:31:04.730
us in false identities with their perceptions

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of us. He really was the turning point. He took

00:31:07.569 --> 00:31:10.690
the heavy, dusty furniture of 19th century realism

00:31:10.690 --> 00:31:13.599
and he blew it up. He showed us that the truth

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isn't an object you find. It's a story you tell.

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And usually it's a story you tell to protect

00:31:18.500 --> 00:31:20.920
yourself. So we've covered the chaos of his birth,

00:31:21.039 --> 00:31:23.200
the betrayal of his ideals, the madness of his

00:31:23.200 --> 00:31:25.960
wife, the invention of metatheater, and the paradox

00:31:25.960 --> 00:31:29.119
of his politics. It is a life defined by the

00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:32.079
refusal to accept easy answers. It is the triumph

00:31:32.079 --> 00:31:34.700
of the desperate laugh. He looked into the void,

00:31:34.799 --> 00:31:36.759
saw nothing, and decided to build art out of

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it. I want to leave the listener with a thought

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today. A little homework for the commute or the

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gym. Think about one. No one and 100 ,000. Think

00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.440
about the you that exists in your boss's mind.

00:31:47.680 --> 00:31:50.319
The you in your partner's mind. The you in your

00:31:50.319 --> 00:31:52.279
parent's mind. They are all different. They might

00:31:52.279 --> 00:31:54.740
even be contradictory. And the you in your own

00:31:54.740 --> 00:31:57.539
mind changes every time you learn something new

00:31:57.539 --> 00:32:00.180
or forget something old. So the question is,

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if you are a different person to everyone you

00:32:02.880 --> 00:32:04.779
meet and a different person to yourself every

00:32:04.779 --> 00:32:11.009
day, do you actually exist? Or... Are you just

00:32:11.009 --> 00:32:13.009
a collection of reflections in other people's

00:32:13.009 --> 00:32:15.230
eyes? And if you were alone on a desert island

00:32:15.230 --> 00:32:18.150
with no mirrors, would you be anyone at all?

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Deep stuff to chew on. Thanks for diving into

00:32:20.990 --> 00:32:23.210
the chaos with us. A pleasure as always. We'll

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catch you on the next deep dive.
