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okay picture the scene it is december 11th 1936

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you are sitting in a you know a drafty living

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room in london or maybe huddled around a wireless

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radio in a farmhouse in the american midwest

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the entire world has effectively stopped the

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airwaves are crackling with static and then a

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man's voice cuts through And it's a very distinct

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voice. It's a voice that belongs to the king

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of the United Kingdom, the emperor of India,

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the ruler of a dominion that covers a quarter

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of the globe. And he says something that, well,

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it basically stops the clocks on the wall. I

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have found it impossible to carry the heavy burden

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of responsibility and to discharge my duties

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as king as I would wish to do without the help

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and support of the woman I love. The woman I

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love. It is arguably the most famous resignation

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letter in human history. I think you're right.

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There's nothing else quite like it. And the woman

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he is talking about isn't a princess from a neighboring

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kingdom. She isn't a duchess with a pedigree

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going back to the Crusades. She is Wallis Simpson,

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a four -year -old American from Baltimore. And

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a divorcee, a two -time divorcee, in fact. Right.

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A woman who, depending on which history book

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you decide to open, is either the romantic heroine

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of the century or a... The villain who nearly

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destroyed the British monarchy before it even

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hit the mid 20th century. It really is the event

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against which all other royal scandals are measured.

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We think we have drama now with modern royals.

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This was the original blockbuster. This was the

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earthquake that shook the foundation of the institution

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itself. It's not an exaggeration to say it brought

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the empire to the brink of a constitutional meltdown.

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And that is exactly what we are unpacking today.

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We are doing a deep dive into the life of Wallis

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Simpson. But we aren't just going to rehash the

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fairy tale version or the, you know, the hit

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piece version. We want to know who actually was

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she. Yes. Because for a woman so famous, she

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is incredibly misunderstood. Absolutely. And

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to get to the truth, we have pulled together

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a massive stack of sources for this one. We are

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looking at definitive biographies. We combed

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through the Wikipedia archives to get the timeline

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straight, which is crucial. We're looking at

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contemporary diaries from the 1930s. which are

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just full of the most incredible gossip. And

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we're even cracking open some declassified FBI

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files that paint a much, much darker picture

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than the romance novels do. The FBI. We'll definitely

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have to get into why they were involved. Oh,

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we will. So the mission today is to move past

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the caricature. It is so easy to paint her as

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the villainous temptress, the sorceress who stole

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the king. The American Jezebel, as some called

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her. Or, on the flip side, the romantic victim

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who just fell in love and got swept away by forces

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beyond her control. But when you look at the

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actual evidence, the reality is so much messier.

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She was complex. She was ambitious. She was terrified.

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And she was contradictory. That's the perfect

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word for contradictory. We're going to trace

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that entire arc. We will go from her childhood

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as a poor relation in Baltimore, which I think

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explains almost everything about her psychology.

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I agree. That's the key right there. To the wild

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rumors of her time in China. the constitutional

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crisis that brought down a government, the incredibly

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controversial brush with the Nazis, and finally,

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those silent, lonely years in Paris. It is a

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sweeping narrative, a life lived at the absolute

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center of history. So let's start at the very

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beginning, because she wasn't born a duchess.

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She wasn't even born Wallace, really. Not as

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a first name, no. She was born Bessie Wallace

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Warfield. Bessie Wallace. That's right. June

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19th, 1896. And she wasn't born in a palace or

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even a major city. She was born in a place called

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Blue Ridge Summit, Pennsylvania. Which sounds

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lovely, but why there? Why not Baltimore, where

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her family was from? I mean, the Warfields were

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a big name in Baltimore. It was a summer resort.

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You have to remember, in 1896, there is no air

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conditioning. Baltimore in the summer is a swamp.

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It's humid. It's oppressive. The threat of diseases

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like typhoid was very real. Right. So the wealthy

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families and the Warfields, who were a very wealthy,

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prominent family, would retreat to the cool mountain

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air of Pennsylvania. It was an escape for the

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elite. The square top hotel, to be exact. Right.

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So she's born into this world of privilege, at

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least on the surface. On the surface. But even

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her birth comes with a little asterisk, doesn't

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it? There is a bit of a scandal right out of

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the gate regarding the timeline. Yes, the wedding

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date versus the birth date. There is. And this

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is the kind of detail that could haunt a family

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in that era, especially in a society as concerned

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with appearances as Baltimore's was. If you look

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at the church records, her parents, Tika Wallace

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Warfield and Alice Montague, were married on

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November 19, 1895. Okay, November 95. Wallace

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arrives in June 1896. I'm doing the mental math.

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That is seven months, a very tight seven months.

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It is a tight seven months. Now, premature babies

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happen, of course. That's entirely possible.

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But there's always been a persistent rumor that

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she was conceived out of wedlock. Which would

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have been a major stain on the family's honor.

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A huge one. And what's really telling is that

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Wallace herself, later in life, would claim her

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parents were married in June 1895, pushing the

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date back a full year to make the math look more

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respectable. So she lied about it. She did. But

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the church records don't lie. That is fascinating.

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So from day one, she is managing her image. She

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is trying to rewrite the facts to fit a respectable

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narrative. That's a theme that just never goes

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away with her. Exactly. And that insecurity,

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that need to control the story, is compounded

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by tragedy almost immediately. Her father, Teagle,

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had tuberculosis. It was the scourge of the age.

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A death sentence, really. Pretty much. He dies

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in November 1896. Wallace is barely an infant,

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five months old. She never knew him. So her mother,

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Alice, is left a widow with a baby and, crucially,

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no independent income. And this is the defining

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dynamic of Wallace's early life. This is what

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shapes her. They are Warfields. The Warfields

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are a big deal in Baltimore history, politicians,

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businessmen, very established. But Wallace and

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her mother are the poor Warfields. The ones without

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the money? The ones without any money of their

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own. They are entirely dependent on the charity

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of her father's brother, her Uncle Solomon Davies

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Warfield. Let's talk about Uncle Saul, because

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he sounds like a character straight out of a

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Dickens novel. He really is. He was a bachelor,

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incredibly wealthy, incredibly powerful. He was

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the postmaster of Baltimore, president of a trust

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company, president of a railway. He was a major

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figure. And he held the purse strings, and by

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all accounts, he held them tight. So he takes

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them in. Yes. Wallace and her mother moved into

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his four -story row house on East Preston Street.

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That sounds comfortable on paper, living in a

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mansion. I mean, four stories? It sounds grand,

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but psychologically... That has to be incredibly

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tough. I can't even imagine. It's a very specific

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kind of pressure. You are surrounded by wealth.

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You have the right last name. You go to the right

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parties. Yeah. But you have no money of your

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own. You are living there on sufferance. You're

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a guest in your own life. You have to be grateful.

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You have to be pleasant. You have to sing for

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your supper in a way. You can never step out

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of line because the roof over your head, the

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food you eat, it all depends on your uncle's

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mood. It is the poor relations syndrome. You

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are inside the club, but you are not of the club.

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You're always looking in from the outside, even

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when you're on the inside. Precisely. And I think

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this breeds two things in Wallace. First, a deep,

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gnawing insecurity. She never felt safe. And

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second, a ferocious drive. A determination. She

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decided very early on that she was never... ever

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going to be in this position of dependency again.

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She wanted her own security. She wanted security.

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And in her world at that time, security meant

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money and status. And the only way for a woman

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to get that was through marriage. But Uncle Solomon

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did come through on the education, right? He

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didn't skimp there. No. To his credit, he paid

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for her to attend Oldfield School. This was the

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most expensive, most exclusive girls' school

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in Maryland. This is where the elite sent their

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daughters. So now teenage Wallace is rubbing

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shoulders with the daughters of true tycoons.

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We are talking about people like Rene DuPont.

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The DuPonts. I mean, that's American royalty.

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OK, so she is literally in the mix with the American

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aristocracy. She is. But again, she knows the

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difference. They have trust funds. She has an

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allowance from a grumpy uncle. They have country

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estates. She lives in her uncle's house. And

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this is where we see the Wallace personality

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really begin to form. She realizes she can't

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compete on money. And honestly, she couldn't

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really compete on classic beauty either. The

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sources are quite blunt about that, aren't they?

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One biographer mentioned her jaw was too heavy

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for the standards of the time. She wasn't...

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the Gibson girl ideal. She wasn't. She didn't

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have that soft, rounded, conventional prettiness

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that was so prized, but she had distinct assets.

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She had amazing violet blue eyes, according to

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descriptions. They were apparently magnetic.

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She had a very petite, slender figure, which

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she kept her whole life, but mostly she had style

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and she had wit. She weaponized her personality.

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She did. I love the quote from her classmate

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at Oldfields. They said, she made up her mind

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to go to the head of the class, and she did.

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That sums her up perfectly. She willed herself

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into prominence. Absolutely. She was always the

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best dressed immaculately turned out. That became

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her armor. If you can't be the prettiest, be

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the most stylish. If you can't be the richest,

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be the most interesting, the wittiest. She learned

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how to focus her attention on people, especially

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men, to make them feel like they were the only

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person in the room. It was a cultivated skill.

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A highly cultivated skill. It is a survival mechanism.

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She is... optimizing herself for the marriage

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market, essentially. Crude but true. In 1910's

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Baltimore, that was the career path available

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to her, and she was determined to succeed at

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it. And succeed she did, at first. So she graduates,

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she makes her debut into Baltimore society, and

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she meets a man who seems to tick all the boxes,

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Earl Winfield Spencer Jr. Wynn. This is 1916.

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She is visiting a cousin in Pensacola, Florida.

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And Wynn Spencer is a U .S. Navy aviator. And

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we have to contextualize this. In 1916, a pilot

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was a rock star. It was dangerous. It was new

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technology. It was the absolute height of masculinity

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and glamour. It is like dating an astronaut in

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the 1960s or a tech billionaire today. Exactly.

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He was handsome, dashing, from a good family.

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On paper, he was the perfect catch. They married

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quickly. But the glamour stripped away very,

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very fast. How so? What went wrong? Well, for

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one, the danger part of aviation became very

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real to her. While she was in Pensacola, she

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witnessed two separate airplane crashes just

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weeks apart. Oh, wow. Not on a newsreel, but

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in person. In person. Saw the wreckage, saw the

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aftermath. Seeing that trauma firsthand gave

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her a lifelong crippling fear of flying, which

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is incredibly ironic considering how much she

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traveled later in life, often sedated or terrified

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on planes. But that wasn't the main problem with

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the marriage, was it? Not at all. The bigger

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problem was Wynn himself. The sources describe

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him as a heavy drinker. Heavy is putting it lightly.

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He was an alcoholic and not the fun at parties

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kind of alcoholic. He was a mean drunk. He was

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abusive, both verbally and some sources physically.

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He was known to drink even before getting into

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the cockpit. That's terrifying. Can you imagine?

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Their marriage became a cycle of fighting, him

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leaving for months on deployment, and her trying

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to cope. They moved to San Diego, then to Washington,

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D .C., but the relationship was just crumbling.

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It was toxic. And eventually, Wynne gets posted

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to the Far East. And this leads us to what I

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think is the most mysterious and mythologized

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chapter of her life, the China years. The China

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dossier. This is where the legend of Wallace

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Simpson starts to drift into, well... So she

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decides to travel to China to try and reconcile

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with him, right? Which in the 1920s, for a woman

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traveling alone, that is a serious track. It

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is a massive undertaking. She travels on a troop

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carrier, the USS Shomal. It takes weeks and weeks.

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She ends up in Hong Kong and joins Wynn. But

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the reconciliation is a complete disaster. He

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is drinking more than ever. He is erratic. Does

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she leave him? She does, but she doesn't go home.

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She doesn't go back to Baltimore with her tail

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between her legs. She goes to Beijing. And she

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spends over a year in China. And the rumors that

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came out of this period, I mean, they dogged

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her for the rest of her life. Oh, they were salacious.

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People whispered that she learned ancient sexual

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techniques in the brothels of Beijing, that she

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was running with a wild crowd of diplomats and

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warlords. It's very exoticized, isn't it? Completely.

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And the most specific and damaging rumor involved...

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Count Galeazzo Ciano. Who later becomes Mussolini's

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son -in -law and foreign minister, a major historical

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figure. Right. He was a young diplomat in Beijing

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at the time. The rumor, which was repeated for

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decades in London salons and treated as fact,

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was that Wallace had a torrid affair with Ciano,

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got pregnant, and had a botched abortion that

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left her infertile. That is an incredibly specific

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and vicious rumor. Is there a shred of truth

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to it? Based on the actual evidence, almost certainly

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not. Jianna's wife later denied it vehemently.

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The dates don't really line up with their time

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in Beijing. Historians have searched for this

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legendary China dossier that supposedly listed

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all her crimes and sexual exploits. The consensus

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is that it simply doesn't exist. It was a myth

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likely fabricated later to discredit her. It

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feels like a very specific kind of smear. It's

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like... How did this American woman with a heavy

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jaw enslave the King of England? Oh, she must

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have learned secret dark arts in the mysterious

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Orient. That is exactly what it is. It's a toxic

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mix of sexism and Orientalism. People couldn't

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accept that Edward just found her personality

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compelling, so they had to invent a sexual sorcery

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narrative to explain his devotion. They had to

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exoticize her to make sense of it. But she did

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enjoy her time in China, by your own account.

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She lived the expat life. She did. She stayed

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with friends. She went to parties. But for all

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the talk of her becoming this worldly, sophisticated

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traveler, there is a hilarious anecdote from

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Madame Wellington Koo, who was a famous Chinese

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socialite in Beijing. Okay. She claimed that

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after a full year in China, Wallace had mastered

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exactly one phrase in the local language. Let

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me guess. Was it, hello, thank you, where is

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the embassy? It was, boy, pass me the champagne.

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Boy, pass me the champagne now. That's the story.

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And if it's true, it tells you everything about

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her lifestyle there. She was living in the bubble

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of the international settlement. She wasn't immersing

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herself in the culture. She was extracting pleasure

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from it. So she eventually leaves China, returns

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to the U .S., and finally divorces Wyn Spencer

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in 1927. And then she wastes absolutely no time.

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She pivots immediately. She pivots to Ernest

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Simpson. Marriage number two. Ernest is the anti

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-Wyn. He is everything Wynn Spencer was not.

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He is an Anglo -American shipping executive.

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He served as an officer in the Coldstream Guards.

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He is stable. He is solvent. He is eminently

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respectable. And he's already married when she

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meets him. He is. He actually divorces his first

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wife to marry Wallace. They get married in London

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in 1928, almost immediately after her divorce

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from Wynn is finalized. And crucially, he takes

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her to London. This is the key. This is the goal.

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Wallace always loved the idea of England, of

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English society. To her, London was the absolute

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pinnacle. They moved to Mayfair. They get a flat

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with servants. They start entertaining. This

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is the life she has always wanted. And the timing

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is just terrible. Terrible timing. They marry

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in 1928. The Wall Street crash happens in 1929.

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Oh. It completely wipes out Wallace's small investments.

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To make matters worse, her mother dies penniless

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that same year. And Ernest's shipping business

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takes a huge hit in the Great Depression. So

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they're in trouble financially. They aren't poor,

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not by normal standards, but they certainly aren't

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Mayfair society wealthy. But, and this is classic

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Wallace, they pretend they are. Fake it till

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you make it. Exactly. They continue to live well

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beyond their means. She throws these immaculate

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dinner parties. She serves the best food, the

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best wine. Even she has to scrimp elsewhere.

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She is climbing the social ladder rung by painstaking

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wrong. And that letter eventually leads her to

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Lady Thelma Furness. It is a game of degrees

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of separation. A friend of hers is friends with

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Thelma Furness. And Thelma Furness happens to

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be the current mistress of the Prince of Wales,

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Edward. It is always the mistress who introduces

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the replacement. It's like something out of a

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Greek tragedy. It is a dangerous game. January

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1931, a weekend house party at Borough Court,

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Lady Furness's country house. And she invites

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the Simpsons. And there, Wallace is introduced

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to the Prince of Wales. Now, was it fireworks

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immediately? Did the earth move? Not really.

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The sources suggest he didn't even remember her

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after that first meeting. It was a slow burn.

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They moved in the same circles for about three

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years. The prince would come to dinner at their

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flat. They would go to his weekend retreat, Fort

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Belvedere. So she's just part of the crowd at

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this point. She is. But the shift, the pivotal

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moment, happens in January 1934. Thelma leaks

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town. Thelma Furness has to go to New York City

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for a family matter. And she turns to her good

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friend Wallace and basically says, look after

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the prince for me while I'm gone. Keep him entertained.

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Don't let him get bored. Look after him. Famous

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last words. By the time Thelma steps off the

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boat back in England, she has been completely

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erased. Wallace has taken her place. The affair

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has begun in earnest. I want to drill down on

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this because it's the question everyone asks.

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Why Wallace? Edward is the Prince of Wales. He

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is the most eligible bachelor on planet Earth.

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He could have anyone. He's dated stunning beauties,

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aristocrats. Why this 38 -year -old, not classically

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beautiful American housewife? This is the million

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-dollar question, isn't it? Yeah. And the sources

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all seem to converge on one answer. It was her

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manner. We'll know about it. Edward was surrounded

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by sycophants. Everyone bowed. Everyone curtsied.

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Everyone agreed with him. His entire life was

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a performance of deference to him. He was bored

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out of his mind. Okay. Wallace. Wallace didn't

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do that. She was irreverent. She was abrasive.

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She was domineering. She was absolutely domineering.

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She treated him like a normal person or even

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like a naughty child. She would tell him his

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tie was ugly. She would snack his hand if he

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reached for a cigar when he was trying to quit.

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She would interrupt him mid -sentence and say,

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that's a bore. Tell us something else. And he

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liked that. He loved it. His official biographer

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described him as being slavishly dependent on

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her. It seems he had a deep psychological need

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to be mothered or dominated by a strong woman.

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She provided a structure and a discipline that

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he secretly craved. He found her complete lack

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of deference totally intoxicating. So he showers

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her with gifts, jewelry, money. Enormous amounts.

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Jewels, furs, cash. He pays off her debts. He's

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completely besotted. Her husband, Ernest, is

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just sort of sidelined. pushed into the background.

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So by 1934, he is hooked. He's bringing her to

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Buckingham Palace, which is a huge no -no. A

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massive breach of protocol. You did not bring

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divorced women to court, especially not when

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the king and queen are in residence. And she

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had two living ex -husbands, well, one ex and

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one current. What did his parents think? King

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George V and Queen Mary. They were horrified,

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absolutely appalled. King George V refused to

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meet her. He was furious with his son. He famously

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predicted to Prime Minister Stanley Baldwin,

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after I'm dead, the boy will ruin himself in

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12 months. That is a chillingly accurate prediction.

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It was precise. Because in January 1936, the

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clock runs out. King George V dies. And the bored,

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besotted Prince of Wales becomes King Edward

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VIII. And suddenly, this isn't just a family

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embarrassment or society scandal. It is a constitutional

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crisis waiting to explode. The fuse has been

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lit. There is a moment right after the accession

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that symbolizes everything. The proclamation

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of the new king is being read at St. James's

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Palace. Traditionally, the new king doesn't watch

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his own proclamation. Right. It's considered

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unseemly. But Edward breaks tradition. He watches

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from a window. And who was standing right next

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to him? Wallace. Wallace. Still married to Ernest

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Simpson. Caught on camera by the press, it was

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a deliberate signal to the establishment. I am

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the king now, and she is with me. Get used to

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it. He couldn't just keep her as a mistress,

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right? Kings have had mistresses for a thousand

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years. Why couldn't he just keep her in a nice

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house in Regent's Park and visit her on Tuesdays?

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Why did it have to be marriage? Because he was

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obsessed. It wasn't just lust or affection. He

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wanted to possess her completely. He wanted her

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to be his queen. He wanted to validate her in

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the eyes of the world and in the eyes of the

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family that despised her. And that is where he

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hit a solid brick wall. Let's break down that

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wall because I think people forget the technical

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reasons why this was so impossible. It wasn't

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just a case of we don't like her. No, it was

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a trifecta of constitutional and religious blockers.

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Religion, law, and politics. Okay, take us through

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them one by one. First, religion. This is the

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big one. The king of the United Kingdom is also

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the supreme governor of the Church of England.

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In 1936, the church's doctrine was strict. Marriage

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is for life. If you divorce, you cannot remarry

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in the church while your former spouse is still

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alive. And Wallace had two living ex -husbands.

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Exactly. Win Spencer was still alive and Ernest

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Simpson was still, you know, breathing. For the

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king to marry her would be to directly defy the

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core teachings of the very church he was sworn

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to lead. It's a theological contradiction. It

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would undermine the entire institution. Completely.

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Second is the legal risk. And this is a really

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interesting, slightly obscure point that the

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government was terrified of. Okay. Wallace divorced

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her first husband. When? In the United States.

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On grounds of incompatibility. Emotional cruelty,

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basically. But in England at that time, the only

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ground for divorce was adultery. So English law

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didn't recognize American incompatibility divorces.

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There was a very real legal opinion circulating

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in Whitehall that her first divorce was not valid

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under English law. And if her first divorce wasn't

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valid, then her second marriage to Ernest was

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bigamous. Oh, wow. And if the king married her,

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he would be committing bigamy. Can you imagine

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the scandal? The king of England, a bigamist.

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It was a legal nightmare. That's a landmine.

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And the third reason. Politics. Pure and simple.

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The prime minister, Stanley Baldwin, and the

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governments of the dominions, Canada, Australia,

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South Africa, New Zealand, they all said no.

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Emphatically no. They saw her as a woman of limitless

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ambition, a political adventurer. They didn't

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trust her judgment. And they felt the British

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public would never, ever accept a twice -divorced

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American as queen. So Edward tries to find a

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loophole, right? The morganatic marriage proposal.

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He does. He's getting desperate. He proposes

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a compromise. He says, OK, I'll remain king.

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I'll marry her. But she won't be queen. She'll

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have a lesser title, like the Duchess of Cornwall.

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And any children we have won't inherit the throne.

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On the surface, that sounds like a reasonable

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compromise. Baldwin shot it down immediately.

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He went to the cabinet and they rejected it.

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He famously said, the queen is the queen. There

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is no such thing as a half queen in the British

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Constitution. The Dominion governments were consulted

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and they all rejected it too. So the walls are

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closing in. There's no way out for him. None.

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At this point, Wallace herself is panicking.

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She's filed for divorce from Ernest, citing his

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adultery with her own friend, Mary Kirk, an affair

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that was almost certainly arranged for the purpose

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of the divorce. A convenient adultery. A very

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convenient adultery. Right. But as the scandal

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breaks in the British press in December 1936,

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and it breaks like a tidal wave, Wallace realizes

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she is about to become the most hated woman in

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the empire. She has to get out of the country.

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She flees to the south of France, to the home

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of her friends, the Rogers. Reporters are literally

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chasing her car across France. It's terrifying

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for her. And under immense pressure, she releases

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a public statement saying she is willing to withdraw

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to give Edward up. She offers to end it. She

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does. She offers him an out, but Edward refused

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to take it. He was on the phone to her constantly.

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He famously said something to the effect of,

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the other end of the wicket was determined. He

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had made up his mind. If he couldn't have her

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as king, he wouldn't be king. It was Wallis or

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the throne. And he chose Wallace. He chose Wallace.

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And so we get to the broadcast, December 10th,

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1936. He sits in Windsor Castle and signs the

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instrument of abdication. He signs it. He gives

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up the throne. He becomes the Duke of Windsor.

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His stuttering, shy brother Bertie becomes King

00:24:03.390 --> 00:24:06.710
George VI. And Edward goes into exile, king for

00:24:06.710 --> 00:24:09.109
less than a year. The shortest reign for an uncrowned

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monarch. And that brings us to the next chapter,

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the Duchess of Windsor. They finally get married

00:24:13.490 --> 00:24:17.109
on June 3rd, 1937. at the Chateau de Condé in

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France, which was loaned to them by a rather

00:24:19.450 --> 00:24:22.069
controversial industrialist named Charles Badeau.

00:24:22.230 --> 00:24:24.049
Everything about them seems to have a controversial

00:24:24.049 --> 00:24:26.990
asterisk next to it. It does. And this wedding

00:24:26.990 --> 00:24:28.630
should have been a triumphant moment for them.

00:24:28.690 --> 00:24:32.109
Love conquers all. The ultimate romantic gesture

00:24:32.109 --> 00:24:35.130
is complete. But if you look at the wedding photos,

00:24:35.410 --> 00:24:38.829
there is a distinct sadness there. Why? Because

00:24:38.829 --> 00:24:41.880
no one came. No member of the royal family attended.

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Not his mother, Queen Mary. Not his brothers,

00:24:44.740 --> 00:24:46.579
the King and the Duke of Kent. Not his sister.

00:24:46.720 --> 00:24:49.599
It was a total coordinated boycott. That must

00:24:49.599 --> 00:24:52.900
have stung deeply. It was a profound humiliation.

00:24:53.259 --> 00:24:55.799
Wallace wore a beautiful dress in a color created

00:24:55.799 --> 00:24:58.660
just for her, Wallace Blue. The designer was

00:24:58.660 --> 00:25:01.140
Maine Botcher. And she had a new wedding ring.

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An emerald mount engraved with the words, We

00:25:04.380 --> 00:25:07.430
are ours now. We are ours now. That is... It

00:25:07.430 --> 00:25:10.529
is romantic, but it is also incredibly isolating.

00:25:10.710 --> 00:25:12.589
It is like saying, we have nothing else left

00:25:12.589 --> 00:25:14.890
but each other. That is exactly what it was.

00:25:15.009 --> 00:25:16.869
And the royal family made sure to twist the knife

00:25:16.869 --> 00:25:18.630
one more time, just to make sure they understood

00:25:18.630 --> 00:25:21.490
their new status. The title. The title. The new

00:25:21.490 --> 00:25:25.369
king, George VI, created Edward the Duke of Windsor,

00:25:25.390 --> 00:25:27.710
which gave him the style of his royal highness,

00:25:27.869 --> 00:25:31.740
or HRH. But the king then issued a specific legal

00:25:31.740 --> 00:25:34.599
document called Letters Patent that decreed that

00:25:34.599 --> 00:25:37.339
while Edward was a royal highness, his wife Wallace

00:25:37.339 --> 00:25:39.500
and any children they might have would not be.

00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:42.640
The famous HRH snub. So she was the Duchess of

00:25:42.640 --> 00:25:44.940
Windsor, but not her royal highness, the Duchess

00:25:44.940 --> 00:25:47.259
of Windsor. Correct. She was just her grace.

00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:50.140
And this was the one that never healed. For Edward,

00:25:50.299 --> 00:25:52.900
it was an unforgivable insult. He felt it as

00:25:52.900 --> 00:25:55.299
an illegal act, stripping a wife of her husband's

00:25:55.299 --> 00:25:57.940
rank. For Wallace, it was a daily reminder that

00:25:57.940 --> 00:26:00.400
the family considered her less than. They fought

00:26:00.400 --> 00:26:02.740
for that HRH title for the rest of their lives.

00:26:02.900 --> 00:26:04.900
And the animosity between the women. I mean,

00:26:04.900 --> 00:26:06.960
the sources describing the feud between Wallace

00:26:06.960 --> 00:26:09.160
and the new Queen, Queen Elizabeth, later the

00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:11.799
Queen Mother, are absolutely brutal. It was venomous,

00:26:11.819 --> 00:26:14.319
pure poison. The Queen Mother reportedly referred

00:26:14.319 --> 00:26:25.640
to Wallace only as And Wallace fired back. Oh,

00:26:25.660 --> 00:26:28.960
yes. Wallace had a sharp tongue. In private,

00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:31.880
she had nicknames for all of them. She called

00:26:31.880 --> 00:26:35.680
the Queen Mother Cookie, a cruel jab at her supposedly

00:26:35.680 --> 00:26:39.400
frumpy style and fondness for food. Wow. And

00:26:39.400 --> 00:26:41.619
she called the young Princess Elizabeth, our

00:26:41.619 --> 00:26:45.049
late Queen Shirley. As in Shirley Temple. as

00:26:45.049 --> 00:26:47.789
in Shirley Temple, because she was a curly -haired,

00:26:47.849 --> 00:26:50.789
precocious child who was suddenly the heir to

00:26:50.789 --> 00:26:53.089
the throne. That is next -level shade, calling

00:26:53.089 --> 00:26:55.789
the future Queen of England Shirley Temple. It

00:26:55.789 --> 00:26:57.910
just shows you the level of petty resentment.

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They were consumed by it. They felt they had

00:27:00.769 --> 00:27:02.650
been robbed of their destiny, their dignity.

00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:05.569
But if we think the scandal ended with the abdication

00:27:05.569 --> 00:27:08.839
and the wedding, we are very wrong. Because now

00:27:08.839 --> 00:27:10.460
we get to the part that makes the history books

00:27:10.460 --> 00:27:12.619
really uncomfortable, the part that's not romantic

00:27:12.619 --> 00:27:15.160
at all, the Nazi connection. This is the darkest

00:27:15.160 --> 00:27:18.079
shadow over their lives. And it's the part that

00:27:18.079 --> 00:27:20.220
really changes the story from a tragic romance

00:27:20.220 --> 00:27:22.980
to something much closer to potential treason.

00:27:23.200 --> 00:27:26.759
It is 1937. They are newlyweds. They're in exile.

00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:29.039
They need to make a splash to show they're still

00:27:29.039 --> 00:27:31.599
relevant. So where do they decide to go for their

00:27:31.599 --> 00:27:35.420
high -profile tour? Germany. Nazi Germany. To

00:27:35.420 --> 00:27:39.450
meet Adolf Hitler. I mean... Talk about reading

00:27:39.450 --> 00:27:42.730
the room wrong. In 1937, the nature of the Nazi

00:27:42.730 --> 00:27:45.750
regime was already becoming clear. It was a catastrophic

00:27:45.750 --> 00:27:48.390
error in judgment. But you have to see it from

00:27:48.390 --> 00:27:50.670
their perspective. Edward wanted to be treated

00:27:50.670 --> 00:27:53.069
like a king, and the British government was ignoring

00:27:53.069 --> 00:27:56.569
him. The Nazis. The Nazis rolled out the red

00:27:56.569 --> 00:27:58.750
carpet. They treated him like a visiting head

00:27:58.750 --> 00:28:01.130
of state. They were greeted by crowds giving

00:28:01.130 --> 00:28:03.609
the Nazi salute. And there are photos of them

00:28:03.609 --> 00:28:05.710
doing it back, or at least Edward doing it. There

00:28:05.710 --> 00:28:08.019
are photos of Edward giving the salute. They

00:28:08.019 --> 00:28:09.799
met with high -ranking officials. They toured

00:28:09.799 --> 00:28:12.599
factories. And the climax of the visit was tea

00:28:12.599 --> 00:28:15.319
with Hitler at the Berkhof, his mountain retreat.

00:28:15.619 --> 00:28:18.339
What happened at that meeting? Hitler was utterly

00:28:18.339 --> 00:28:21.140
charmed by them, especially Wallace. He reportedly

00:28:21.140 --> 00:28:23.039
told an aide after the meeting she would have

00:28:23.039 --> 00:28:25.500
made a good queen. Of course he said that. A

00:28:25.500 --> 00:28:27.980
fascist sympathizer on the British throne would

00:28:27.980 --> 00:28:30.420
have been the greatest strategic asset the Third

00:28:30.420 --> 00:28:33.180
Reich could ever hope for. Exactly. And that's

00:28:33.180 --> 00:28:35.180
how the Nazis saw them. They saw the Windsors

00:28:35.180 --> 00:28:38.859
as useful idiots, at best, or potential puppets,

00:28:38.859 --> 00:28:42.700
at worst. There was a plan, if Germany conquered

00:28:42.700 --> 00:28:45.720
Britain Operation Willie, to find the Windsors

00:28:45.720 --> 00:28:48.559
and reinstall Edward on the throne as a puppet

00:28:48.559 --> 00:28:51.700
king. And it wasn't just the trip. The declassified

00:28:51.700 --> 00:28:54.200
FBI files you mentioned earlier, they suggest

00:28:54.200 --> 00:28:56.359
Wallace might have had personal connections to

00:28:56.359 --> 00:28:59.380
the Nazi leadership long before this. The files

00:28:59.380 --> 00:29:01.440
are full of intelligence reports and informant

00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.240
gossip, so you have to take it with a grain of

00:29:03.240 --> 00:29:06.019
salt. But they repeatedly mentioned Joachim von

00:29:06.019 --> 00:29:08.359
Ribbentrop, who was the Nazi ambassador to London

00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:10.720
in the mid -30s. Right, when the affair with

00:29:10.720 --> 00:29:14.119
Edward was in full swing. Yes. There were persistent

00:29:14.119 --> 00:29:16.420
rumors that Wallace and Ribbentrop had an affair

00:29:16.420 --> 00:29:18.099
while she was in London. There were rumors about

00:29:18.099 --> 00:29:21.059
the carnations. Yes, that he sent her 17 carnations

00:29:21.059 --> 00:29:23.640
every day, supposedly representing the number

00:29:23.640 --> 00:29:25.279
of times they had slept together. That sounds

00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.579
like over -the -top gossip. It almost certainly

00:29:27.579 --> 00:29:31.160
is. But the FBI took very seriously the report

00:29:31.160 --> 00:29:34.240
from an informant that she kept a signed photograph

00:29:34.240 --> 00:29:38.200
of Ribbentrop on her bedside table. Whether they

00:29:38.200 --> 00:29:40.660
were lovers or not, it's clear they were politically

00:29:40.660 --> 00:29:44.420
aligned. Wallace was deeply anti -communist.

00:29:44.460 --> 00:29:47.440
And like many in the aristocracy, she saw fascism

00:29:47.440 --> 00:29:50.039
as a necessary bulwark against the Soviets. So

00:29:50.039 --> 00:29:52.859
the war starts in 1939. The Windsors are in France.

00:29:53.240 --> 00:29:56.400
Germany invades in 1940. They have to run. They

00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:58.630
flee south. They get out of France and make their

00:29:58.630 --> 00:30:01.410
way to Spain, then to Portugal. And this is where

00:30:01.410 --> 00:30:03.690
the British government starts to panic. Edwards

00:30:03.690 --> 00:30:05.549
is in neutral territory, talking to all sorts

00:30:05.549 --> 00:30:07.789
of questionable people, sending defeatist signals.

00:30:08.029 --> 00:30:10.130
And Wallace is doing the same. She is. She's

00:30:10.130 --> 00:30:12.329
quoted in a diplomatic cable telling the U .S.

00:30:12.349 --> 00:30:14.470
ambassador that France lost the war because it

00:30:14.470 --> 00:30:17.410
was internally diseased and hadn't organized

00:30:17.410 --> 00:30:19.910
itself properly. That is classic defeatist talk.

00:30:20.130 --> 00:30:22.710
Blaming the victim. And Edwards later admitted

00:30:22.710 --> 00:30:24.750
in an interview that he was taken in by Hitler.

00:30:25.450 --> 00:30:27.390
He thought Britain should negotiate a peace.

00:30:28.009 --> 00:30:30.670
Winston Churchill was terrified that the Nazis

00:30:30.670 --> 00:30:32.869
would either kidnap the Windsors or convince

00:30:32.869 --> 00:30:35.710
them to defect. He had to get them out of Europe.

00:30:35.890 --> 00:30:37.849
So he gives Edward a job basically to get him

00:30:37.849 --> 00:30:39.470
out of the way. He appoints him governor of the

00:30:39.470 --> 00:30:42.089
Bahamas. Which, on the surface, sounds like a

00:30:42.089 --> 00:30:45.849
nice gig son, sand, cocktails. But for them...

00:30:45.849 --> 00:30:47.750
For them, it was prison. It was the ultimate

00:30:47.750 --> 00:30:50.849
exile. wallace called it our saint helena a direct

00:30:50.849 --> 00:30:53.329
reference to the desolate rock where napoleon

00:30:53.329 --> 00:30:56.289
was banished to die she hated it she felt buried

00:30:56.289 --> 00:30:58.529
alive in a colonial backwater and her letters

00:30:58.529 --> 00:31:01.609
from this time they really peel back the veneer

00:31:01.609 --> 00:31:04.609
we see a side of her that is really truly ugly

00:31:04.609 --> 00:31:07.369
we have to address the racism It is undeniable.

00:31:07.369 --> 00:31:09.890
And it is shocking to read. In her letters to

00:31:09.890 --> 00:31:12.130
her aunt in Baltimore, she complained bitterly

00:31:12.130 --> 00:31:14.630
about the local Bahamian population. And she

00:31:14.630 --> 00:31:17.069
used appalling racial slurs. She called them

00:31:17.069 --> 00:31:20.789
lazy thriving. And she used the N -word to describe

00:31:20.789 --> 00:31:23.369
them. It reflects that old South Baltimore upbringing

00:31:23.369 --> 00:31:26.109
in the worst possible way. It does. It shows

00:31:26.109 --> 00:31:29.289
a deep and unthinking prejudice. And on top of

00:31:29.289 --> 00:31:31.630
that, she was also incredibly tone deaf about

00:31:31.630 --> 00:31:34.269
the suffering of the war. While London was being

00:31:34.269 --> 00:31:36.130
blitzed, while people were sleeping in subway

00:31:36.130 --> 00:31:39.029
tunnels and eating meager rations, Wallace was

00:31:39.029 --> 00:31:41.329
taking shopping trips to Miami and New York.

00:31:41.529 --> 00:31:44.049
Buying designer dresses and jewelry while her

00:31:44.049 --> 00:31:46.450
former subjects were being bombed. It was a PR

00:31:46.450 --> 00:31:49.089
disaster. She was criticized heavily in the press.

00:31:49.369 --> 00:31:51.589
There was also the incident with the yacht, the

00:31:51.589 --> 00:31:53.910
Southern Cross. They went vacationing on the

00:31:53.910 --> 00:31:57.490
yacht of Axel Wennergren. a Swedish industrialist

00:31:57.490 --> 00:31:59.509
who was on the British and American blacklists

00:31:59.509 --> 00:32:02.210
for being a suspected pro -German agent. Churchill

00:32:02.210 --> 00:32:04.329
must have been pulling his hair out. He was furious.

00:32:04.630 --> 00:32:07.430
He basically had to send a strongly worded telegram

00:32:07.430 --> 00:32:10.089
saying, stop hanging out with Nazi sympathizers.

00:32:10.970 --> 00:32:13.109
It is honestly amazing they survived the war

00:32:13.109 --> 00:32:15.250
with any reputation left at all. But they did

00:32:15.250 --> 00:32:18.130
survive. The war ends in 45, the governor gig

00:32:18.130 --> 00:32:21.710
is over, and they go back to France. And this

00:32:21.710 --> 00:32:24.440
leads us to the final act of their lives. The

00:32:24.440 --> 00:32:27.500
long, glittering exile. They settle in Paris.

00:32:27.839 --> 00:32:30.039
The city of Paris gives them a mansion in the

00:32:30.039 --> 00:32:32.500
Bois de Boulogne for a nominal rent, which is

00:32:32.500 --> 00:32:35.299
controversial in itself. They also buy and restore

00:32:35.299 --> 00:32:38.259
a country house, which they call the Mel, and

00:32:38.259 --> 00:32:40.200
they basically become professional socialites.

00:32:40.380 --> 00:32:42.140
What does that even mean? What did they do all

00:32:42.140 --> 00:32:44.660
day? They entertained. They traveled. They played

00:32:44.660 --> 00:32:47.559
with their pugs. They curated their image. They

00:32:47.559 --> 00:32:51.630
were famous for... Being famous, really. A precursor

00:32:51.630 --> 00:32:53.549
to our modern celebrity culture. Who were they

00:32:53.549 --> 00:32:56.369
hanging out with? A mix of old aristocrats, rich

00:32:56.369 --> 00:32:59.109
Americans, fashion designers, and the occasional

00:32:59.109 --> 00:33:02.009
political outcast. Notably, they stayed very

00:33:02.009 --> 00:33:04.930
close with Oswald and Diana Moseley, the leaders

00:33:04.930 --> 00:33:07.470
of the British Union of Fascists. That connection

00:33:07.470 --> 00:33:09.670
never really went away. And tell me about the

00:33:09.670 --> 00:33:12.109
jewelry, because the Duchess of Windsor collection

00:33:12.109 --> 00:33:14.589
is the stuff of legend. It really became her

00:33:14.589 --> 00:33:17.509
substitute for royalty. Edward... Continued to

00:33:17.509 --> 00:33:20.109
shower her with jewels. Incredible pieces from

00:33:20.109 --> 00:33:22.529
Cartier, from Van Cleef in our bowls. The famous

00:33:22.529 --> 00:33:24.769
panther bracelets, the flamingo brooch made of

00:33:24.769 --> 00:33:27.309
rubies and diamonds. If she couldn't wear a crown,

00:33:27.470 --> 00:33:29.269
she would wear everything else. It was her armor.

00:33:29.450 --> 00:33:32.650
But there was a famous theft, right? A big mystery

00:33:32.650 --> 00:33:36.329
surrounding the jewels. 1946. They were visiting

00:33:36.329 --> 00:33:39.910
England, staying at Ednam Lodge. A burglar broke

00:33:39.910 --> 00:33:43.609
in and stole a massive haul of her most precious

00:33:43.609 --> 00:33:45.980
jewels. And of course, the conspiracy theory

00:33:45.980 --> 00:33:49.279
started immediately. Instantly. Some people whispered

00:33:49.279 --> 00:33:51.920
the royal family had orchestrated the theft to

00:33:51.920 --> 00:33:54.440
steal back the royal heirlooms that Edward had

00:33:54.440 --> 00:33:56.519
taken with him. I've heard that one. Others said

00:33:56.519 --> 00:33:58.779
the Windsors staged the theft themselves for

00:33:58.779 --> 00:34:01.220
the insurance money, because for all their glamour,

00:34:01.240 --> 00:34:03.839
they were often cash poor. So what was the reality?

00:34:04.339 --> 00:34:07.700
The much more mundane reality. Years later, a

00:34:07.700 --> 00:34:10.079
career criminal named Richard Dunphy confessed

00:34:10.079 --> 00:34:13.829
to it in 1960. It was just a regular, if very

00:34:13.829 --> 00:34:16.389
successful, burglary. But with the Windsors,

00:34:16.449 --> 00:34:19.110
nothing was ever allowed to be mundane. There

00:34:19.110 --> 00:34:21.329
always had to be a conspiracy. So they lived

00:34:21.329 --> 00:34:23.690
this life of easy retirement, as one biographer

00:34:23.690 --> 00:34:26.829
called it. Dinner parties, pugs, fashion. But

00:34:26.829 --> 00:34:29.510
then time catches up. It always does. Edward,

00:34:29.690 --> 00:34:31.530
a lifelong smoker, was diagnosed with throat

00:34:31.530 --> 00:34:34.110
cancer. He died at their home in Paris in 1972.

00:34:34.429 --> 00:34:36.170
It was the end of the partnership. And Wallace

00:34:36.170 --> 00:34:38.329
went back to England for the funeral. She did.

00:34:38.980 --> 00:34:41.900
And in a gesture of reconciliation, the queen

00:34:41.900 --> 00:34:44.780
had her stay at Buckingham Palace. There are

00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:47.840
heartbreaking photos of her, a tiny, frail figure

00:34:47.840 --> 00:34:50.380
in black, looking out the window, watching his

00:34:50.380 --> 00:34:52.880
coffin pass by. But by then, she wasn't really

00:34:52.880 --> 00:34:55.639
herself, was she? The decline had already started.

00:34:55.860 --> 00:34:59.219
No. She was frail. She was confused. She was

00:34:59.219 --> 00:35:01.940
suffering from arteriosclerosis, which was affecting

00:35:01.940 --> 00:35:04.639
her mind. She was beginning to succumb to dementia.

00:35:04.980 --> 00:35:07.260
And the years after Edward's death, from what

00:35:07.260 --> 00:35:08.639
I've read, they sound like a horror movie. They

00:35:08.639 --> 00:35:10.460
were tragic. She lived for another 14 years.

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.059
But she became a complete recluse in that big

00:35:13.059 --> 00:35:15.300
house in Paris. She lost the ability to speak

00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:18.300
by 1980. And she fell under the total control

00:35:18.300 --> 00:35:20.920
of her French lawyer, a woman named Suzanne Bloom.

00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:23.480
This is a very controversial figure. Hugo Vickers,

00:35:23.659 --> 00:35:26.800
the royal biographer, called Bloom a satanic

00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:28.860
figure. That's a strong phrase, but there are

00:35:28.860 --> 00:35:31.440
serious accusations that Bloom exploited Wallace's

00:35:31.440 --> 00:35:34.039
dementia. She isolated the Duchess, kept her

00:35:34.039 --> 00:35:36.320
old friends away, and allegedly sold off her

00:35:36.320 --> 00:35:39.119
possessions, furniture, art, personal items,

00:35:39.280 --> 00:35:41.980
to Bloom's own friends at bargain prices, all

00:35:41.980 --> 00:35:44.679
while Wallace was upstairs, bedridden, and in

00:35:44.679 --> 00:35:47.059
a vegetative state. That's a sad, vulnerable

00:35:47.059 --> 00:35:49.860
end for a woman who had been so obsessed with

00:35:49.860 --> 00:35:52.539
control and her own image. The ultimate loss

00:35:52.539 --> 00:35:55.500
of control. And when she finally died, April

00:35:55.500 --> 00:35:59.039
24th, 1986. She was buried next to Edward at

00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.480
the Royal Burial Ground at Frogmore, near Windsor.

00:36:02.300 --> 00:36:06.059
Finally, back in the royal fold, in death. The

00:36:06.059 --> 00:36:09.760
Queen attended the funeral. A final, quiet peace

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was made. But the will... The will was one last

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shock to everyone. It was. Everyone expected

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the money or the jewels to go to friends or maybe

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back to the royals or to a charity she had shown

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some interest in. Instead, the entire estate,

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millions of dollars, went to the Pasteur Institute.

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A French medical research foundation. A foundation

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which she had shown zero interest in during her

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life. It was almost certainly Suzanne Bloom's

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influence. Bloom sat on the board of a connected

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charity. It was the final... Strange twist. And

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then came the auction, 1987, Sava Bees in Geneva.

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The sale of the jewels. It was a global media

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frenzy. It raised $45 million, a staggering sum

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at the time. Mohamed Al -Faid bought the Paris

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mansion and a lot of their personal effects.

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It was the final liquidation of the Windsor myth.

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So, bringing it all back, we've looked at the

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ambitious girl from Baltimore, the scandalous

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mistress, the hated duchess, the Nazi sympathizer,

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and the lonely, exploited widow. When you step

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back from all the details, what is the legacy

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here? Well, Wallace tried to write her own legacy.

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She published a memoir in 1956, The Heart Has

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Its Reasons. But critics at the time called it

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a facelift of the truth. She conveniently rearranged

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facts and timelines to make herself look better,

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more sympathetic. Of course she did. She was

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shaping the narrative until the very end. But

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I think the most poignant assessment comes from

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one of her biographers who said she experienced

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the ultimate fairy tale that went wrong. How

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so? Explain that. Think about the classic structure

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of fairy tale. The prince falls in love with

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the commoner. He defies his family. He makes

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her his queen. They rule together, happily ever

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after. But here, the script flipped. The prince

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fell in love. He defied his family. But to have

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her, he had to quit his job. He had to abdicate.

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So suddenly, you aren't the queen of England.

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You're just the wife of an unemployed duke with

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a lot of baggage and a resentful family. That's

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the tragedy, isn't it? She got the man, but she

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lost the context that made him the man she wanted.

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She didn't want Edward Windsor, private citizen.

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She wanted the king, and she got the duke. And

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Wallace herself summed it up in a moment of rare,

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brutal honesty. She once said to a friend, you

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have no idea how hard it is to live out a great

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romance. That is a heavy sentence. Living out

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a great romance as a job, a burden. It implies

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it was work. It wasn't just effortless love.

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It was a performance. She had to be the woman

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worth giving up an empire for. Every single day.

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She had to be witty. She had to be perfectly

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dressed. She had to keep him happy. Because if

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he was unhappy, then the entire colossal sacrifice

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was for nothing. That is an absolutely exhausting

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burden for any one person to carry. And that

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leads us to the final provocative thought for

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you, the listener. When you look at the whole

00:38:50.929 --> 00:38:53.369
story of Wallace Simpson and Edward VIII, was

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the throne lost for love? Or was the love just

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a consolation prize for a throne that maybe was

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never really possible for a man like him to keep

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anyway? That is the question, isn't it? Something

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to chew on. Thanks for diving deep with us. We'll

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catch you on the next one.
