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March 28, 2024. Most people probably don't have

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that date circled on their calendar, but in the

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timeline of financial history, that was the asteroid

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impact. That was the day the gavel finally came

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down in a Manhattan courtroom and the sentence

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was read out 25 years. And let's not forget the

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forfeiture order. Eleven billion dollars. Right.

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Eleven billion. It's a number so large it just

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it turns into an abstraction. You can't even

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visualize eleven billion dollars. Yeah. But you

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can visualize a 25 year sentence. That is a quarter

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of a century. And what really struck me about

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that day wasn't just the finality of it. It was

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the absolute the starkness of the contrast. The

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contrast between the inmate and the icon. Exactly.

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I mean, you just rewind the clock two years before

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that. Sam Bankman free at SBF. He wasn't just

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some rich guy. No, he was phenomenal. He was

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the 41st richest American. He was on the cover

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of Forbes, Fortune, you name it. He was sitting

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on panels with Bill Clinton and Tony Blair. He

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was sold as the white knight of crypto. The one

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who is going to bridge this gap between the chaotic

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digital frontier and the serious world of Washington

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regulation. And then just like that. Snap. He's

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standing there in a beige prison jumpsuit, listening

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to Judge Cackling completely dismantle his entire

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existence. It's the ultimate Icarus story, isn't

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it? But I think people get the Icarus metaphor

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wrong in this context. How so? Icarus flew too

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close to the sun because he was reckless. He

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was high on the thrill of it. SBF wasn't just

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reckless, as we're going to get into. This was

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a calculated, almost mathematical deconstruction

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of the rules. Right. Because he truly fundamentally

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believed the rules didn't apply to him. That's

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the key distinction, isn't it? This wasn't some

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kind of accident. And that is what we are unpacking

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today. We are doing a proper deep dive into the

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rise and the catastrophic fall of SBF and FTX.

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And I don't want to just recycle the headlines

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everyone saw on Twitter. We have a massive stack

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of sources here, biographical records, the raw

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court transcripts from United States via Bankman

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Freed, the bankruptcy filings, and even the prison

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incarceration logs. Honestly, the source material

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is darker and weirder than the headlines ever

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captured. When you really dig into the mechanics

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of the fraud, the specific lines of code they

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wrote to steal the money, and the psychological

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environment they built around themselves, it's

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genuinely terrifying. Our mission today is to

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really understand those mechanics. How do you

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actually steal $8 billion without the auditors

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noticing? What is the psychology of a guy who

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plays video games while pitching Sequoia Capital?

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And wins. And wins. And then how does that same

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brain adapt to, you know, trading fish packets

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in a federal penitentiary? It is quite the arc.

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So let's start at the very beginning, because

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usually when we hear about financial fraudsters,

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there's this narrative of the scrappy outsider,

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the guy who wanted to break into the club but

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wasn't invited. He, you know, he kicked the door

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down. Right. That is not Sam Bankman Freed. Not

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even close. He was born inside the club. March

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5, 1992, Stanford, California. I mean, his parents,

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Joseph Bankman and Barbara Freed, are both tenured

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professors at Stanford Law School. At Stanford

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Law. And we aren't talking about obscure academics

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here. They are titans in the fields of tax law

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and legal ethics. Which adds a very thick layer

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of irony to this whole story. It does, but I

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think you have to look at what they taught. His

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mother, Barbara Freed, is a prominent consequentialist.

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Okay, let's pause there. Consequentialist. For,

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you know, for the listener who hasn't touched

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a philosophy textbook since college, break that

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down for us because I have a feeling this is

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the root of the whole problem. It's a huge part

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of it. So consequentialism is the ethical theory

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that the morality of an action is determined

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solely by its consequences. So the ends justify

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the means. In a nutshell, yes. If the outcome

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is good, the action itself is good. It stands

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in direct contrast to, say, deontology which

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says there are certain hard rules like do not

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lie or do not steal that you must follow regardless

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of the outcome so if i lie to you But that lie

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ends up saving five people from a burning building.

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A consequentialist would say the lie was not

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just acceptable, but it was the moral thing to

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do. Exactly. Now, imagine growing up in a household

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where that is the dinner table conversation.

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Yeah. Where rigid rules are viewed as sort of

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irrational and everything is just a calculation

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of utility. Right. SBF didn't just learn this.

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He breathed it. He grew up in a world of. high

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-level intellectual debate where you could basically

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argue your way out of anything if the math on

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your side worked out. It explains so much about

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his later defenses in court. Mistakes were made,

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but my intentions were good. Precisely. So that's

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the home environment. And then you move on to

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his education. He goes to the Kennedy USA math

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camp. This isn't just summer school. No. This

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is for the outliers, the kids who see the matrix.

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Yeah, the real prodigies. And that nationally

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funneled him right into MIT. He graduated in

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2014, physics major, math minor. But I think

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the most telling part of his MIT experience wasn't

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the classroom. It was where he lived. Epsilon

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theta. Epsilon theta. Yeah. I've read about this

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place. It sounds less like a frat house and more

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like a... A social experiment or something. That's

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a great way to put it. It was a co -ed group

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house and they prided themselves on being very

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distinct from the frat bro culture is intensely

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intellectual, you know, heavily focused on games,

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puzzles, high level debate. But they also had

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this culture of what's been called polycule adjacent

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living. Very few boundaries, lots of shared intimacy,

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sleep piles, that sort of thing. Which effectively

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became the blueprint for the FTX corporate housing

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later on in the Bahamas. Precisely. He never

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really left Epsilon Theta. He just recreated

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it in the Bahamas with a billion dollar budget.

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He learned that you could blend your work life,

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your social life, and your romantic life into

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one indistinguishable blob. and that there were

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no real boundaries. So he leaves MIT. He has

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the math brain. He has this consequentialist

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ethical framework. And he lands at Jane Street

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Capital. Now, we need to spend some time here

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because... Every profile mentions Jane Street,

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but they usually just say it's a high -frequency

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trading firm. But Jane Street is a very specific

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type of beast, isn't it? Well, it is. It's almost

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like a cult of rationality. Jane Street is a

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proprietary trading firm. That means they trade

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their own money, not clients' money. They are

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famous, absolutely famous, for their obsession

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with one concept, expected value, or EV. EV.

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Okay, this is the concept that seems to drive...

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everything SBF did. Explain how that mindset

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works in practice at a place like Jane Street.

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So at Jane Street, they would bet on anything,

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literally anything. What's the weather going

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to be in an hour? Will this person walk through

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that door in the next 60 seconds? They are constantly

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calibrating their probability assessments. The

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core idea is this. If you offer me a bet where

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I have a 51 % chance of winning a dollar and

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a 49 % chance of losing a dollar, I should take

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that bet every single time. Because over a thousand

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flips, the expected value is positive. Even if

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the downside of losing is really painful in the

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short term. That's the catch. In pure EV theory,

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if the math is positive, you take the risk. Jane

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Street teaches you to be completely risk neutral.

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You don't fear loss, you just fear bad math.

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SBF absorbed this completely. There's a now famous

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anecdote where he discussed a theoretical coin

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flip. Heads, the world becomes twice as good

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as it is now. tales, the world is completely

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destroyed. And he said he would take that flip.

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He said he'd keep flipping it. He'd take the

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50 % risk of total annihilation over and over

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because the expected value of creating a paradise

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world was technically infinite. That is a dangerous

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way to operate a civilization. And it turns out,

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a terrible way to run a bank. It completely desensitizes

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you to catastrophe. If you go bankrupt, you just

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say, well, the math was right. I just got unlucky

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on the variant. Exactly. And that brings us to

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his exit from Jane Street. He leaves in 2017

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to start Alameda Research. And this is where

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the legend really begins. The kimchi premium.

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The kimchi premium. This is the origin story.

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It's the started in a garage moment for crypto.

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But I feel like people gloss over how hard this

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actually was. They just say, oh, Bitcoin was

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more expensive in Japan, so he bought low and

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sold high. If it was that easy, why wasn't everyone

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doing it? That is exactly the right question

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to ask. The arbitrage opportunity itself was

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obvious. You know, Bitcoin might be trading at

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$10 ,000 in the U .S. and $11 ,000 in Japan or

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Korea. That's a free 10 % spread. Yeah, free

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money. But the friction. The real world friction

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was immense. The Japanese and Korean banking

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systems are notoriously insular and bureaucratic.

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You can't just wire $10 million into a Japanese

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bank account as a foreigner without triggering

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every single money laundering alarm bell in Tokyo.

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So the hard part wasn't the crypto side of it.

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It was the fiat currency. It was getting the

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dollars and yen moved around. It's always the

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fiat. SBF's genius here, and it was a form of

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genius. was navigating that bureaucracy. He set

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up this incredibly complex web of intermediaries

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and local directors to satisfy the Japanese banks.

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He essentially built a logistical pipe that allowed

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him to move up to $25 million a day out of Japan.

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And that's where the boy genius myth crystallized,

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right? He wasn't just another coder. He was this

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guy who could hack the real world banking system.

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It validated his entire worldview. He proved

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he could solve a problem that stumped the rest

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of the market. And he made an absolute fortune

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doing it. This gave him the capital and, more

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importantly, the confidence to launch FTX in

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2019. But before we get to FTX, we have to talk

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about the motivation he presented to the world.

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Because SPF wasn't buying Ferraris. He was driving

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a Toyota Corolla. He was famous for sleeping

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on beanbags. He claimed this was all for a philosophy

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called effective altruism. Yay. earning to give.

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We touched on his utilitarian upbringing, but

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EA takes it a step further. It's not just about

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doing good. It's about optimizing good, right?

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Right. It's about maximizing your impact. The

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classic example is, you know, if you work at

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a soup kitchen, you help maybe 50 people a day.

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That's nice. Feels good. But if you become a

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billionaire trader and donate that money to,

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say, mosquito net distribution in Africa, you

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could save 50 ,000 lives. So therefore, the most

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moral imperative is to get as rich as humanly

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possible. Exactly. But there's a darker, more

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extreme side to EA that SBF fully subscribed

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to called long -termism. Okay, this is crucial.

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This is crucial. Long -termism posits that the

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lives of the trillions of humans who will potentially

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live in the future, thousands, even millions

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of years from now, are just as valuable, if not

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more valuable, than the people alive today. So

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your priority shouldn't be fixing poverty now

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or curing cancer now. No. It should be preventing

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a future AI apocalypse or a meteor strike that

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could wipe out the entire future of the human

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species. And this creates a terrifying moral

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license. Because if your stated goal is to save

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a trillion future humans from a rogue AI, then

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stealing from a million current humans is, what,

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a rounding error? It's a justifiable sacrifice

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in that framework. Exactly. If you truly believe

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you are the Messiah for the future of the species,

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then standard everyday ethics like don't commit

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wire fraud look like petty, irrational hurdles.

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Wow. SBF viewed himself as a soldier fighting

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for the future, which allowed him to rationalize

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the crimes of the present. So with that mindset

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that he is basically the protagonist of reality.

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He builds FTX and he builds it incredibly fast.

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Unbelievably fast. Founded in 2019. And by September

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2021, he's moving the whole operation from Hong

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Kong to the Bahamas. And it wasn't just one company.

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No, it was over 130 affiliated companies by the

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end. A complete labyrinth designed to be confusing.

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And he needed to sell this labyrinth to investors.

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Which brings us to the image. The cargo shorts,

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the wild, unkempt hair. For a long time, people

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just thought, oh, he's just too busy and brilliant

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to care about his appearance. But that wasn't

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true, was it? No, not at all. Caroline Ellison,

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his ex -girlfriend and the CEO of Alameda, testified

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in court that the look was completely calculated.

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SBF realized early on back at James Street that

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if he looked a little crazy, people thought he

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was smarter. So it's a costume. It was absolutely

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a costume. He believed he got better bonuses

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at Jane Street when his hair was at its messiest.

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It's the Einstein effect, right? If you look

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like you don't know how to use a comb, you must

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be too busy contemplating the unified field theory

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to be bothered. And Silicon Valley eats that

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up. They don't want a guy in a Brooks Brothers

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suit. That looks like old finance. They want

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a disruptor. The most famous example, of course,

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is the pitch to Sequoia Capital. Oh, God, the

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League of Legends pitch is legendary. He is on

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a Zoom call. pitching one of the most prestigious,

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powerful venture capital firms on the planet

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for hundreds of millions of dollars. And during

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the call, he is audibly playing the video game

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League of Legends. You can hear the mouse clicking.

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And the craziest part is not that he did it,

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but that it worked. It worked like a charm. Sequoia

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wrote this glowing profile on him, which they

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have since scrubbed from the Internet, where

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they gushed about it. They said things like,

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we're talking to a future trillionaire. It was

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a power move. Yeah. It signaled, I don't need

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your money. I'm barely paying attention to you.

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And you're still going to write me a $200 million

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check. It establishes dominance. And it allowed

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him to expand his web of influence so aggressively.

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They weren't just buying up crypto assets. They

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were trying to buy legitimacy. That's the perfect

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word for it. They bought a 7 .6 % stake in Robinhood.

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Why Robinhood? That was strategic. Robinhood

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is the bridge to the mainstream retail stock

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trading world. If FTX could merge with or acquire

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Robinhood, they become this all -in -one financial

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super app. And then there was the whole episode

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with Elon Musk and the Twitter purchase. Yeah,

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SBS advisor texted Musk's team saying Sam was

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good for up to $5 billion to help take Twitter

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private. Musk, to his credit, seemed pretty skeptical.

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He asked his advisor, does he actually have $5

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billion in liquid cash? And the answer, as we

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now know, was a definitive no. Not even close.

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And then the wildest one of all, the island of

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Nauru. This brings us right back to that survivalist,

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long -termist paranoia. This was a real project.

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They actually looked into buying Nauru, a sovereign

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island nation in Micronesia. To do what with

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it? The plan was to build a bunker. sort of doomsday

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shelter for the effect of altruists to survive

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a global catastrophe and repopulate the earth

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with rational utilitarian thinkers. It sounds

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like a James Bond villain plot. I will buy a

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sovereign nation to restart civilization in my

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own image. It just shows how detached from reality

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they had all become. Well, you have billions

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of dollars, even if it's just monopoly money

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on a spreadsheet. And absolutely no one in your

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life is telling you no. Your wildest fantasies

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start to look like legitimate business plans.

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Okay, so we have the motive, the image, and the

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sprawling empire. Now we need to look under the

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hood. We need to talk about the fraud itself,

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because this wasn't just, oops, we lost some

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money in a bad trade. This was structural theft

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from day one. This is section three, the mechanics

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of the fraud, and it all centers on the relationship

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between FTX, the exchange, And Alameda Research,

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the hedge fund. And just to be clear for the

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listener, normally an exchange and a trading

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firm are supposed to be like church and state.

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They should be completely separate. Absolutely.

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100 % separate. If you deposit money into an

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exchange like Coinbase or Kraken, that money

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is supposed to sit there. It's your money. The

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exchange makes its profit on transaction fees.

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They should never, ever be gambling with your

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deposits. But Alameda was gambling. And they

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were gambling with FTX customer money. On a massive

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scale. So how did they physically get the money

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from point A to point B? Because as I understand

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it, there were two main ways, two big buckets

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of fraud. Two main buckets is right. The first

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was what you could call the fiat processing loophole.

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In the early days of FTX, traditional banks were

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still very wary of crypto. They wouldn't give

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FTX a corporate bank account. Right. It would

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seem it's too risky. But Alameda Research, being

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a trading firm. already had established bank

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accounts. So SBF came up with a solution. He

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told customers, if you want to fund your account

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on the FTX exchange, just wire your US dollars

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to this bank account here. And that bank account

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was owned by Alameda Research. Exactly. So you,

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the customer, think you're funding your FTX trading

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account, but you're actually wiring your life

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savings directly to a completely separate high

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-risk hedge fund. Wow. And for years, SBF claimed

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in public that that money was just sitting there.

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segregated and safe. But in reality, Alameda

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was spending it on risky trades, venture investments,

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political donations, everything. We are talking

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about $8 billion of customer deposits that never

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even touched FTX's own corporate structure. It

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went straight to the casino. That's the first

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bucket. But the second mechanism is even more

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damning because it involved deliberately tampering

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with the platform's software itself. The code

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tweak. This is the smoking gun. This is what

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you can't explain away as an accident. Gary Wang,

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the CTO and co -founder of Guy SBF, had known

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since MathCamp testified under oath that SBF

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ordered him to add a special feature to FTX's

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code just for Alameda. OK, now you've looked

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at the technical details of this. What exactly

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did this line of code do? So every crypto exchange

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has something called the liquidation engine,

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an automated piece of software. If you borrow

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money to make a trade leverage and your position

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drops below a certain value, the engine automatically

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sells your assets to pay back the loan. It's

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a safety feature. It protects the exchange from

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going bankrupt if traders lose too much. It's

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a critical safety feature. It's ruthless and

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it happens in milliseconds. It protects the entire

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system. Unless you're Alameda. Unless you're

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Alameda. Gary Wang added a flag in the database.

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Literally a single line of code. A Boolean setting.

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Allow negative. For Alameda and only for Alameda,

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this setting was switched to true. The liquidation

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engine was turned off for them. So they could

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borrow infinite money, lose it all, go billions

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and billions of dollars into debt to the exchange,

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and the system would just never stop them. Exactly.

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It was an essentially unlimited line of credit,

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backed by their own customers' funds. At one

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point, Alameda had a negative balance of $65

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billion on the FTX exchange. The code was hardwired

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to look the other way. That's not negligence.

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That's not I lost track of the spreadsheets,

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which was his defense. That is a deliberate,

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premeditated engineering decision to bypass the

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most fundamental safety protocol on the entire

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platform. And that's why the I didn't know defense

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completely fell apart at trial. You don't accidentally

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write a specific code exemption for your own

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personal hedge fund. It's impossible. But they

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had to hide this massive $65 billion hole. And

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to do that, they needed to buy protection. They

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needed friends in high places. Which brings us

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to the political machine they built. SBF wasn't

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just donating out of the kindness of his heart.

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Not even slightly. He was trying to buy the referee.

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He was pushing very hard for a specific bill

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in Congress, the Digital Commodities Consumer

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Protection Act. And what would that have done?

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It would have given the CFTC the Commodity Futures

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Trading Commission, primary oversight over the

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crypto industry. And why did he want the CFTC

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instead of, say, the SEC? Because the CFTC is

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generally seen as a smaller agency, perhaps a

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little more manageable than the much larger and

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more aggressive SEC. He was trying to handpick

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his own regulator. And to do that, he needed

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to buy influence on both sides of the aisle.

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The numbers here are just staggering. In the

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2022 midterm elections, he was the second largest

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individual donor to the Democrats, dropping nearly

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$40 million. And that's just what the public

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saw. That was the on -the -book stuff. But later,

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after the collapse, SBS admitted in an interview

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that he gave just as much, if not more, to Republicans.

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But he did it through dark money channels. Exactly.

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He used 501c4 organizations and other political

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vehicles where donor names aren't disclosed to

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the public. He explicitly told a reporter that

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he did this because he knew the media is super

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liberal and he didn't want the bad PR that would

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come from being a Republican mega donor. So he

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was hedging his political bets just like it was

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a financial trade. A perfect hedge. If Democrats

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win, he has a seat at the table. If Republicans

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win, he calls in the dark money favors he's owed.

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It's cynical perfection. And then you have the

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raw nepotism, his brother, Gabriel Bankman Freed.

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Gabriel ran a lobbying group called Guarding

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Against Pandemics, a very noble sounding cause.

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Sounds great. They received $35 million from

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SBF and Alameda. And look, maybe they had some

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good intentions, but a lawsuit filed by the bankruptcy

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estate later alleged they did nothing to prevent

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pandemics. It looked for all the world like a

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slush fund to employ family and buy influence

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in D .C. under the guise of altruism. And the

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parents. This is where it gets really uncomfortable.

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The bankruptcy estate sued them. to recover $32

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million in cash and real estate that was given

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to them by FTX. They were gifted a $16 million

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home in the Bahamas. Wait, a $16 million vacation

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home for two law professors? Not bad work if

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you can get it. They denied knowing about the

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fraud, of course. Right. It just shows how the

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customer money was leaking out of the company

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in every conceivable direction. Real estate,

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politics, family handouts, you name it. Speaking

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of real estate, we have to talk about the penthouse.

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The now infamous Orchid Penthouse. The $40 million

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dorm room. This was the headquarters. SBF, Caroline

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Ellison, Gary Wang, Nishad Singh, the whole inner

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circle lived there together in this massive five

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-bedroom luxury apartment. This goes right back

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to the Epsilon Theta days at MIT. It's exactly

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that. They were running a multi -billion dollar

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global conglomerate, but they were living like

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college students in a group house, sleeping with

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each other, breaking up, having intense drama,

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all while eating vegan food delivered by private

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chefs and, according to testimony, popping stimulant

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medication to stay awake for days on end. It

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creates a complete echo chamber. If everyone

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you work with is also your roommate and in some

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cases your romantic partner, there is no outside

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voice. There is no one to say, hey, maybe we

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shouldn't steal $8 billion from our customer.

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It was a hermetically sealed bubble of delusion

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floating on an ocean of stolen money. Until the

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bubble popped. Yeah. Section 5. The Collapse.

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November 2022. It is hard to overstate how fast

00:22:35.519 --> 00:22:37.299
this happened. It felt like watching the Soviet

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Union collapse in a single weekend. It all started

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with a leak. CoinDesk, a crypto news site, got

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its hands on a copy of Alameda's balance sheet.

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When people who understood finance actually looked

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at it, they gasped. Why? What was so shocking

00:22:49.799 --> 00:22:52.519
on it? Well, it was full of FTT. FTT was the

00:22:52.519 --> 00:22:54.700
digital token that FTX had just invented themselves.

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They literally printed it out of thin air. Alameda's

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balance sheet was showing billions of dollars

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in assets, but most of it was this magical internet

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money that only had value because FTX and SBF

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said it did. It's completely circular logic.

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I am rich because I own a billion dollars of

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bankman bucks, which are valuable because I,

00:23:12.240 --> 00:23:15.079
a rich person, say they are. Exactly. And the

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market realized in an instant that if FTX ever

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got into trouble, those FTT tokens would be worth

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zero. The emperor had no clothes. And then came

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the tweet. The tweet that killed an empire from

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Changpeng Zhao, CZ, the CEO of Binance. SPF's

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arch rival. Yeah. CZ saw the Coindesk report

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and tweeted that Binance, which held a lot of

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FTT from an earlier deal, was going to sell all

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of his holdings due to recent revelations. And

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that was the signal. That was the fire alarm

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in a crowded theater. Everyone ran for the exits

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at once. A classic bank run. Numbers were insane.

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Six billion dollars in withdrawal requests in

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just 72 hours. And because Alameda had stolen

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all the liquid. cash, FTX couldn't pay. The vault

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was empty. SBF tried to bluff his way through

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it. He sent out that tweet. FTX is fine. Assets

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are fine. That tweet is going to go down in history

00:24:05.130 --> 00:24:07.390
as one of the most expensive and blatant lies

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ever told. He knew they weren't fine. Behind

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the scenes, he was frantically calling investors,

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calling the Saudis, calling anyone he could think

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of for a bailout. But the hole was just too deep

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to fill. November 11th, 2022. He files for Chapter

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11 bankruptcy. SBF resigns. And the handcuffs

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come out. And the trial was a complete spectacle.

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United States v. Bankman freed. The defense strategy

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from the start was to paint him as this sort

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of unlucky math nerd. I'm just a physicist. I

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don't understand accounting. I got overwhelmed.

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Right. I was trying to save the world. The market

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crashed. Mistakes were made. But there was no

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intent to defraud anyone. But the prosecution

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didn't just have documents and spreadsheets.

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They had the roommates. This must have been just

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surreal for him, watching his ex -girlfriend,

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Caroline Ellison, walk to the witness stand to

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testify against him. Her testimony was the absolute

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nail in the coffin. She was composed. She was

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credible. She was incredibly detailed. She told

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the jury about the seven spreadsheets. The seven

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spreadsheets? What was that? When Alameda's lenders

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started getting nervous and asked to see their

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balance sheet, the real one looked terrible.

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It showed the massive hole. So SBF directed her

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and the team to prepare seven different alternative

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versions of the balance sheet, each one hiding

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the loans and the risk in a different way. Oh,

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my God. And then he looked at all seven options

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and personally picked alternative seven to send

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to the lenders. That one act completely destroys

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the argument of I made a mistake. You don't accidentally

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create seven different fake balance sheets. SBF

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ended up taking the stand himself. Which is something

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defense lawyers almost always tell their clients

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never to do. It was a Hail Mary pass, and he

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fumbled it spectacularly. He thought he could

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outsmart the prosecutor. He thought he could

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talk his way out of it with philosophical arguments,

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just like he talked his way into Sequoia's wallet.

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But a courtroom is not a VC pitch meeting. No.

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In a court, facts matter. He said, I don't recall.

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or some version of that, over 140 times. He came

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across as evasive, slippery, and arrogant. The

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jury absolutely hated him. And the verdict came

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back, guilty on all seven counts. Swiftly and

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unanimously. So now we enter the final chapter

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of this saga, the aftermath. The boy king who

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wanted to buy the island of Nauru is now an inmate

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in a federal prison. And the details of his life

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behind bars are, well, they are a deep dive in

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and of themselves. It's a fascinating study and

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adaptation. First, he was held at MDC Brooklyn,

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the Metropolitan Detention Center. It's a notoriously

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rough place. Ghislaine Maxwell was held there,

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for instance. And he had the immediate dietary

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issues. Right. He's a committed vegan. His lawyers

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were in court almost immediately, complaining

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that he was being forced to survive on bread,

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water, and peanut butter because the prison wasn't

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providing him with adequate vegan meals. They

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argued he couldn't prepare for his trial because

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he was wasting away. But then he adapted to the

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internal prison economy. The mackerel. The mack.

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This is my favorite detail of the whole story

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because it connects so perfectly back to the

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kimchi premium arbitrage. How so? In federal

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prison, you can't use cash. The currency used

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to be cigarettes. But now those are banned in

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most facilities. So the stable currency, the

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accepted medium of exchange, is the pouch of

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mackerel fish fillets from the commissary. It

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has utility. It's non -perishable. It has a standard

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agreed upon value. It's a commodity currency.

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Exactly. And so SBF, the vegan who doesn't even

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eat fish, started acquiring and trading macks.

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There's a credible report that he paid a fellow

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inmate four packets of mackerel to give him a

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haircut before his trial. It's the same skill

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set. It's arbitrage. identifying a market inefficiency.

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I have a surplus of fish. You have a surplus

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of barbering skill. And he's executing the trade.

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He's running a localized version of Alameda research

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inside the cell block. It proves that his brain

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is just hardwired this way. It doesn't turn off.

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He is a transactional creature, whether it's

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a global crypto markets or prison barter. He

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is always, always calculating the expected value.

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And his cellmates. I mean, the writers of this

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reality show are just working overtime. As of

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late 2024, reports came out that he was being

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housed in a dormitory -style unit with none other

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than Sean Combs. Diddy. You can't be serious.

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Diddy and SBF. Just picture that conversation.

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The crypto nerd who thinks in probabilities and

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the hip hop mogul who built an empire on image

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sitting there on their bunks trading Macs for

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commissary snacks. Both of them having fallen

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from these massive heights, both facing serious

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federal time. It's a bizarre and powerful leveling

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mechanism. There really is. But SBF couldn't

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just stay quiet and do his time. He tried one

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more leverage play. The Tyker Carlson interview.

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This was in March of 2025. It was completely

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unsanctioned. He somehow got a message out or

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arranged a phone call. The details are still

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murky. But he did an interview with Tucker Carlson,

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basically making a pitch for a pardon from Donald

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Trump. What was his argument? He went right back

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to the dark money argument he made before. He

00:29:02.650 --> 00:29:05.690
basically said, hey, remember, I secretly donated

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to Republicans, too. I'm not who you think I

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am. I'm a victim of the liberal media and the

00:29:10.349 --> 00:29:13.190
woke mob. Let me out. And how did that work out

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for him? It worked in the sense that he got a

00:29:15.710 --> 00:29:19.529
lot of attention. But. The prison warden didn't

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appreciate it. He got thrown in solitary confinement

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for a while and then transferred clear across

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the country to FCI Terminal Island in Los Angeles.

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So he's in L .A. now. But here is the final and

00:29:31.150 --> 00:29:33.349
maybe the most confusing twist for the listener.

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The money. We spent this whole hour talking about

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how we lost $8 billion of customer money. But

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recent reports from the bankruptcy estate say

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the customers might get all their money back.

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How is that even possible? This is what some

00:29:45.670 --> 00:29:48.630
people are calling the anthropic miracle. Back

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during the wild spending street days, SBF invested

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about $500 million of customer money into an

00:29:54.490 --> 00:29:57.150
AI startup called Mpropic. The company that makes

00:29:57.150 --> 00:30:00.650
the Claude AI model. Yes. And as we all know,

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AI completely exploded in value after FTX collapsed.

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That $500 million stake became worth billions

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and billions of dollars. The bankruptcy estate,

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which is being led by John J. Ray III, the same

00:30:13.980 --> 00:30:16.819
guy who cleaned up the Enron disaster, sold that

00:30:16.819 --> 00:30:20.240
stake at a huge profit. Wow. And that, combined

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with clawing back political donations and other

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assets, means they now have enough cash to potentially

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pay customers back over 100 % of their claim

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value. in dollar terms. So does that mean no

00:30:31.430 --> 00:30:33.430
crime was committed? Is the defense no harm,

00:30:33.450 --> 00:30:36.170
no foul? Absolutely not. And this is a very dangerous

00:30:36.170 --> 00:30:39.150
misconception. If I steal your car, drive it

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to Las Vegas, put your entire life savings on

00:30:41.130 --> 00:30:42.769
red at the roulette wheel and happen to win,

00:30:42.970 --> 00:30:45.569
I still stole your car and I still illegally

00:30:45.569 --> 00:30:47.750
gambled with your money. Right. The fact that

00:30:47.750 --> 00:30:50.109
the gamble paid off after I was arrested doesn't

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retroactively authorize the initial theft. The

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crime was the risk. The crime was taking the

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choice away from the customer without their consent.

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Precisely. The customers didn't sign up to be

00:30:59.569 --> 00:31:01.930
angel investors in a speculative AI startup.

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They thought their money was sitting in a digital

00:31:04.089 --> 00:31:07.549
vault, safe and sound. SBF gambled it. He just

00:31:07.549 --> 00:31:09.390
happened to get very, very lucky on one of his

00:31:09.390 --> 00:31:11.630
bets after he was already in handcuffs. It's

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a hell of a story. From a physics lab at MIT

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to a penthouse in the Bahamas to a prison yard

00:31:16.950 --> 00:31:20.390
in L .A., when you look at this entire arc, What

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is the one thing that sticks with you the most?

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What is the core lesson here? For me, it goes

00:31:25.750 --> 00:31:27.609
right back to that expected value philosophy

00:31:27.609 --> 00:31:29.650
we talked about at the beginning. We live in

00:31:29.650 --> 00:31:31.789
a world, especially in tech and finance, that

00:31:31.789 --> 00:31:34.569
worships disruption. We love the people who break

00:31:34.569 --> 00:31:37.470
the rules. The mantra is move fast and break

00:31:37.470 --> 00:31:39.970
things. But sometimes the things you break are

00:31:39.970 --> 00:31:42.569
federal laws and people's entire life savings.

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SBF is the ultimate logical product of a system

00:31:46.269 --> 00:31:48.920
that says, if you are smart enough. and your

00:31:48.920 --> 00:31:51.799
stated goal is big and noble enough, you don't

00:31:51.799 --> 00:31:53.460
have to follow the same speed limit as everyone

00:31:53.460 --> 00:31:56.140
else. He truly thought he was the protagonist

00:31:56.140 --> 00:31:58.599
of the universe. He thought ethics were, and

00:31:58.599 --> 00:32:00.640
this is a direct quote from him, a dumb game

00:32:00.640 --> 00:32:03.319
we woke Westerners play. That quote just haunts

00:32:03.319 --> 00:32:06.220
me. It should. Because he wasn't alone in that

00:32:06.220 --> 00:32:09.240
thinking. There are plenty of other founders

00:32:09.240 --> 00:32:11.480
and visionaries out there right now who believe

00:32:11.480 --> 00:32:14.500
the same thing. They think they are saving the

00:32:14.500 --> 00:32:17.859
world so they can cut a few corners today. SPF

00:32:17.859 --> 00:32:20.700
just took that logic to its absolute catastrophic

00:32:20.700 --> 00:32:23.680
limit. It's a powerful reminder that if someone

00:32:23.680 --> 00:32:25.700
tells you they are going to save humanity, you

00:32:25.700 --> 00:32:27.559
should probably check to see if they are holding

00:32:27.559 --> 00:32:29.779
onto your wallet while they say it. And check

00:32:29.779 --> 00:32:31.680
if they have a backdoor written into the code.

00:32:31.819 --> 00:32:34.480
Always check the code. And maybe check the market

00:32:34.480 --> 00:32:36.539
price of mackerel while you're at it. Always

00:32:36.539 --> 00:32:39.660
check the fish arbitrage. That is going to do

00:32:39.660 --> 00:32:43.160
it for this deep dive. A tragedy, a farce, and

00:32:43.160 --> 00:32:45.220
a very potent warning all wrapped up in one.

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We'll catch you on the next one. Stay curious.

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And stay skeptical. See ya.
