WEBVTT 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:03.779 It is Saturday, January 24th, 2026, and I have 00:00:03.779 --> 00:00:06.360 to be honest with you, looking at the absolute 00:00:06.360 --> 00:00:08.779 mountain of documents we have on the desk today, 00:00:08.939 --> 00:00:12.800 I feel a very specific kind of exhaustion. It's 00:00:12.800 --> 00:00:15.070 a heavy stack. And it's not just the physical 00:00:15.070 --> 00:00:17.730 weight of the paper. No. It's the weight of the 00:00:17.730 --> 00:00:20.989 subject itself. Exactly. It's the fatigue. If 00:00:20.989 --> 00:00:22.370 you were listening to this right now, you probably 00:00:22.370 --> 00:00:25.589 feel it too. It feels like we have been, I don't 00:00:25.589 --> 00:00:28.589 know, about to find out the truth regarding Jeffrey 00:00:28.589 --> 00:00:31.429 Epstein for what? For what, seven years? Ten 00:00:31.429 --> 00:00:34.689 years? And yet here we are, six years after his 00:00:34.689 --> 00:00:38.670 death, and late 2025 just decided to dump an 00:00:38.670 --> 00:00:41.170 entirely new puzzle on our laps. It really was 00:00:41.170 --> 00:00:43.439 a chaotic end to the year. I mean, if you had 00:00:43.439 --> 00:00:45.939 told me five years ago that in 2026 we'd still 00:00:45.939 --> 00:00:47.359 be parsing through new evidence, I would have 00:00:47.359 --> 00:00:49.280 said you were crazy. Oh, absolutely. But look 00:00:49.280 --> 00:00:51.219 at just the last six months. You had the release 00:00:51.219 --> 00:00:53.859 of the first 50 years birthday book in September. 00:00:54.020 --> 00:00:56.740 Right. Which just completely reignited the whole 00:00:56.740 --> 00:00:59.399 social network debate. And the FBI finally and 00:00:59.399 --> 00:01:02.479 I mean finally releasing the jail footage in 00:01:02.479 --> 00:01:05.519 July. The so -called glitch footage. Yeah. Which 00:01:05.519 --> 00:01:07.000 we are definitely going to spend some time on 00:01:07.000 --> 00:01:09.640 later because the implications of that are just 00:01:09.640 --> 00:01:11.719 staggering. Staggering. And then, of course, 00:01:11.780 --> 00:01:15.430 the. political football of the client list that 00:01:15.430 --> 00:01:17.069 just keeps getting punted back and forth. And 00:01:17.069 --> 00:01:20.189 back and forth. It feels like we are drowning 00:01:20.189 --> 00:01:23.870 in data, but starving for actual context. That's 00:01:23.870 --> 00:01:25.930 the perfect way to frame it. We have millions 00:01:25.930 --> 00:01:30.290 of data points, but no single narrative that 00:01:30.290 --> 00:01:32.629 makes sense of them all. For most people, Epstein 00:01:32.629 --> 00:01:34.969 is just a collection of headlines. Yeah, he's 00:01:34.969 --> 00:01:37.530 a meme. He's the island. He's the plane. He's 00:01:37.530 --> 00:01:41.489 the suicide or not controversy. It was all noise. 00:01:42.510 --> 00:01:44.810 Our mission today is to cut through that noise. 00:01:45.170 --> 00:01:47.849 We aren't doing another true crime rehash. I 00:01:47.849 --> 00:01:50.469 don't want to talk about the lurid details just 00:01:50.469 --> 00:01:52.909 for the shock value. I want to understand the 00:01:52.909 --> 00:01:55.329 mechanism. The mechanism is key because when 00:01:55.329 --> 00:01:57.909 you look at the source material, I mean, really 00:01:57.909 --> 00:01:59.870 look at it. Epstein doesn't come across like 00:01:59.870 --> 00:02:02.510 a criminal mastermind in the traditional sense. 00:02:02.769 --> 00:02:06.230 He looks like a ghost in the machine. He's a 00:02:06.230 --> 00:02:09.939 study in how the systems we trust. Finance, academia, 00:02:10.300 --> 00:02:13.219 intelligence, the Justice Department. They all 00:02:13.219 --> 00:02:15.879 have back doors. And he found every single one 00:02:15.879 --> 00:02:19.180 of them. So let's test that theory. We need to 00:02:19.180 --> 00:02:21.400 go back way before the island, before the jet, 00:02:21.539 --> 00:02:23.979 before the billions. I'm looking at this timeline 00:02:23.979 --> 00:02:26.139 we built out. And the first real anomaly is right 00:02:26.139 --> 00:02:30.379 here. 1974. The Dalton School. The Upper East 00:02:30.379 --> 00:02:33.060 Side. Very elite. The kind of place where the 00:02:33.060 --> 00:02:35.099 tuition costs more than most people's salaries. 00:02:35.539 --> 00:02:37.520 Extremely elite. And here is Jeffrey Epstein, 00:02:37.699 --> 00:02:41.060 age 21. He is teaching calculus and physics to 00:02:41.060 --> 00:02:43.939 the children of the Manhattan aristocracy. Right. 00:02:44.180 --> 00:02:47.400 But looking at his resume here, he's a dropout. 00:02:47.419 --> 00:02:49.139 He went to Cooper Union, dropped out, went to 00:02:49.139 --> 00:02:51.759 NYU, dropped out. Right. He has no degree. He 00:02:51.759 --> 00:02:53.360 has no credentials. In fact, he didn't even have 00:02:53.360 --> 00:02:55.900 a teaching license. So let's just pause and really 00:02:55.900 --> 00:02:58.599 look at this. How does a college dropout with 00:02:58.599 --> 00:03:01.639 no degree get hired to teach physics at one of 00:03:01.639 --> 00:03:03.500 the most prestigious prep schools in America? 00:03:04.180 --> 00:03:05.879 You can't just walk in off the street and say, 00:03:05.919 --> 00:03:08.370 trust me, I know math. Well, this is where the 00:03:08.370 --> 00:03:10.909 mechanism starts to show itself right away. The 00:03:10.909 --> 00:03:13.210 headmaster of Dalton at the time was a man named 00:03:13.210 --> 00:03:17.469 Donald Barr. Barr. Wait, as in Bill Barr. The 00:03:17.469 --> 00:03:21.110 former attorney general. His father. Now, we 00:03:21.110 --> 00:03:22.830 have to be really precise with the source material 00:03:22.830 --> 00:03:25.069 here because this is where Internet conspiracies 00:03:25.069 --> 00:03:27.189 usually just go completely off the rails. OK. 00:03:27.349 --> 00:03:30.370 Donald Barr actually left Dalton just a few months 00:03:30.370 --> 00:03:33.310 before Epstein started teaching. So there isn't 00:03:33.310 --> 00:03:36.629 a signature on a contract that says. donald barr 00:03:36.629 --> 00:03:39.530 hired jeffrey epstein got it so he didn't directly 00:03:39.530 --> 00:03:42.849 hire him likely not directly but barr had established 00:03:42.849 --> 00:03:45.430 a very very specific culture there he was an 00:03:45.430 --> 00:03:48.409 iconoclast he wrote science fiction space operas 00:03:48.409 --> 00:03:52.030 actually no way yeah he believed in talent over 00:03:52.030 --> 00:03:55.250 credentials he liked hiring unconventional people 00:03:55.250 --> 00:03:57.870 who he thought were geniuses regardless of a 00:03:57.870 --> 00:04:00.310 piece of paper and the administration that followed 00:04:00.310 --> 00:04:03.469 him kept that ethos for a while So Evsky fits 00:04:03.469 --> 00:04:05.569 the profile of a bar hire, even if Barr himself 00:04:05.569 --> 00:04:07.969 didn't sign the contract. He just walked in, 00:04:08.050 --> 00:04:10.349 charmed the right people, and projected this 00:04:10.349 --> 00:04:13.909 aura of unconventional genius. Exactly. And even 00:04:13.909 --> 00:04:16.769 then, at 21, the behavior pattern was already 00:04:16.769 --> 00:04:19.810 visible. We have accounts from students, verified 00:04:19.810 --> 00:04:22.870 accounts, that he was blurring lines immediately. 00:04:23.189 --> 00:04:24.970 Like what? Showing up at student parties on the 00:04:24.970 --> 00:04:27.949 weekends, flirting with the girls. In 2026, that 00:04:27.949 --> 00:04:30.569 gets you fired and arrested within a week. In 00:04:30.569 --> 00:04:35.209 1974. In 1974, in that specific circle, it was 00:04:35.209 --> 00:04:38.250 just eccentric. He was the cool, young teacher. 00:04:38.430 --> 00:04:40.509 Wow. And he didn't get fired for the inappropriate 00:04:40.509 --> 00:04:43.170 behavior, oddly enough. He was eventually dismissed 00:04:43.170 --> 00:04:45.389 for poor performance. So he just wasn't a good 00:04:45.389 --> 00:04:48.250 teacher. Apparently not. But by then, it didn't 00:04:48.250 --> 00:04:50.269 matter. He had already extracted what he needed 00:04:50.269 --> 00:04:52.689 from Dalton. He didn't need the salary. He needed 00:04:52.689 --> 00:04:55.089 the Rolodex. He needed a specific parent. And 00:04:55.089 --> 00:04:57.550 this is the pivot point in his entire life. He 00:04:57.550 --> 00:04:59.649 was tutoring the daughter of Alan Greenberg. 00:04:59.850 --> 00:05:02.910 Ace Greenberg. Yeah. The CEO of Bear Stearns. 00:05:03.360 --> 00:05:06.379 A Wall Street legend. A titan. Epstein charms 00:05:06.379 --> 00:05:08.579 the daughter, helps her with her calculus, and 00:05:08.579 --> 00:05:11.160 eventually meets the father. He impresses Greenberg 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:14.579 with his, quote, mind for numbers. And suddenly, 00:05:14.720 --> 00:05:17.240 the fired physics teacher is a junior assistant 00:05:17.240 --> 00:05:20.040 at an investment bank. Talk about failing upward. 00:05:20.420 --> 00:05:22.980 He gets fired from a school and lands on a trading 00:05:22.980 --> 00:05:25.120 floor. But wait, because this is where people 00:05:25.120 --> 00:05:27.459 usually gloss over the details. They just say 00:05:27.459 --> 00:05:31.089 he went to Wall Street and got rich. Right. But 00:05:31.089 --> 00:05:34.769 look at the speed. He joins Bear Stearns in 1976. 00:05:35.470 --> 00:05:39.370 By 1980, just four years later, he is a limited 00:05:39.370 --> 00:05:41.490 partner. Is that normal? I mean, that sounds 00:05:41.490 --> 00:05:44.810 fast. It's virtually impossible, especially for 00:05:44.810 --> 00:05:47.790 a guy with no MBA, no degree, and no prior experience. 00:05:48.209 --> 00:05:50.649 It usually takes a decade of grinding to get 00:05:50.649 --> 00:05:52.910 there, if you ever do. So what was he doing? 00:05:53.259 --> 00:05:55.399 It suggests he wasn't just doing grunt work. 00:05:55.519 --> 00:05:58.720 He wasn't a quant genius analyzing charts in 00:05:58.720 --> 00:06:01.680 a back room. He was a salesman. What was he selling? 00:06:01.939 --> 00:06:04.879 Tax avoidance. He figured out early on that the 00:06:04.879 --> 00:06:06.980 one thing which people care about more than making 00:06:06.980 --> 00:06:09.139 money is not losing money to the government. 00:06:09.639 --> 00:06:11.939 He made himself a fixer for wealthy clients. 00:06:12.180 --> 00:06:15.040 He identified loopholes. Okay, but if he was 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:17.120 so good at it, why did he get fired in 1981? 00:06:17.699 --> 00:06:19.420 I'm looking at the reason here and it says Reg 00:06:19.420 --> 00:06:21.519 D violation. We need to translate that because 00:06:21.519 --> 00:06:23.339 it sounds like boring compliance stuff, but I 00:06:23.339 --> 00:06:25.110 have a feeling it's important. Oh, it's very 00:06:25.110 --> 00:06:29.129 important. Regulation D is an SEC rule. Basically, 00:06:29.350 --> 00:06:31.629 it allows companies to sell private investments 00:06:31.629 --> 00:06:33.970 without registering them as public securities. 00:06:34.170 --> 00:06:36.670 But you have to follow very strict rules. OK. 00:06:36.769 --> 00:06:40.649 You can usually only sell to accredited investors, 00:06:40.990 --> 00:06:43.430 people who can afford to lose the money. And 00:06:43.430 --> 00:06:45.329 you have to follow strict disclosure protocols. 00:06:45.670 --> 00:06:48.129 And Epstein. Epstein just ignored the rules. 00:06:48.389 --> 00:06:50.889 He gave his own money to a friend to invest in 00:06:50.889 --> 00:06:53.509 a deal, effectively trying to skirt the regulations 00:06:53.509 --> 00:06:56.209 to get in on a hot opportunity. He thought he 00:06:56.209 --> 00:06:58.029 was smarter than the compliance department. He 00:06:58.029 --> 00:07:00.889 thought rules were suggestions. Exactly. And 00:07:00.889 --> 00:07:03.389 when Bear Stearns caught him, they cut him loose. 00:07:03.490 --> 00:07:05.509 They didn't want the liability. So now he's out 00:07:05.509 --> 00:07:08.129 on his own. And this enters his most mysterious 00:07:08.129 --> 00:07:11.550 phase. The bounty hunter years. I honestly thought 00:07:11.550 --> 00:07:13.870 this was an internet myth until I saw the documents 00:07:13.870 --> 00:07:16.870 on the Obregon case. This feels like a movie 00:07:16.870 --> 00:07:19.509 script that got rejected for being too unbelievable. 00:07:19.910 --> 00:07:23.529 It sounds like fiction. From 1982 to around 1986, 00:07:23.990 --> 00:07:26.490 he sets up this thing called the Intercontinental 00:07:26.490 --> 00:07:29.910 Assets Group. He calls himself a financial troubleshooter. 00:07:30.050 --> 00:07:32.850 A troubleshooter. He's traveling to Europe, carrying 00:07:32.850 --> 00:07:35.329 a gun or claiming to, anyway, helping people 00:07:35.329 --> 00:07:38.310 recover stolen money. He helped the Spanish actress 00:07:38.310 --> 00:07:41.189 Ana Obregón. Right. Her father's money. Yes. 00:07:41.250 --> 00:07:43.389 Her father had lost millions in a real estate 00:07:43.389 --> 00:07:46.470 scam. Epstein trapped the money down. He played 00:07:46.470 --> 00:07:48.310 the part of the heavy. He recovered the funds. 00:07:48.569 --> 00:07:51.990 It's giving. International man of mystery, but 00:07:51.990 --> 00:07:55.410 very, very low budget. It's shady. But it bridges 00:07:55.410 --> 00:07:59.029 the gap between banker and criminal because this 00:07:59.029 --> 00:08:01.870 work led him directly to Stephen Hoffenberg. 00:08:01.990 --> 00:08:04.439 Towers Financial. The biggest Ponzi scheme in 00:08:04.439 --> 00:08:07.500 history until Bernie Madoff came along. And this 00:08:07.500 --> 00:08:09.819 is really where Jeffrey Epstein gets his Ph .D. 00:08:09.839 --> 00:08:11.759 in fraud. Okay, and this is what I struggle with. 00:08:12.100 --> 00:08:14.899 Stephen Hoffenberg went to prison for this. He 00:08:14.899 --> 00:08:18.459 stole $450 million. Epstein was his right -hand 00:08:18.459 --> 00:08:21.339 man, right? They're inseparable. In 1987, Epstein 00:08:21.339 --> 00:08:24.980 is making $25 ,000 a month. In 1987 dollars? 00:08:25.120 --> 00:08:29.029 That's like, what, $70 ,000 a month today? More? 00:08:29.149 --> 00:08:31.910 Plus bonuses. They are flying on private jets. 00:08:32.009 --> 00:08:33.830 They're trying to execute a hostile takeover 00:08:33.830 --> 00:08:36.629 of Pan Am. They are living like kings. But here's 00:08:36.629 --> 00:08:39.549 the mechanism again. Towers Financial was a fraud. 00:08:39.750 --> 00:08:42.570 They were selling bonds to investors, promising 00:08:42.570 --> 00:08:45.629 these huge returns, and then paying off the old 00:08:45.629 --> 00:08:48.769 investors with a new investor's money. A classic 00:08:48.769 --> 00:08:52.210 Ponzi. Classic. And Hoffenberg later claimed 00:08:52.210 --> 00:08:55.950 explicitly that Epstein was the architect of 00:08:55.950 --> 00:08:58.629 the whole scheme. He said Epstein was the one 00:08:58.629 --> 00:09:00.610 who figured out how to manipulate the balance 00:09:00.610 --> 00:09:04.110 sheets. So why didn't Epstein go to jail in the 00:09:04.110 --> 00:09:07.110 90s? Hoffenberg did. Timing. It all comes down 00:09:07.110 --> 00:09:09.649 to timing. Epstein left the company in 1989. 00:09:10.210 --> 00:09:12.610 The house of cards didn't collapse until 1993. 00:09:13.090 --> 00:09:15.330 So by the time the feds came knocking. He was 00:09:15.330 --> 00:09:17.730 already gone. He had distanced himself. He was 00:09:17.730 --> 00:09:19.809 never charged. He walked away with the money, 00:09:19.929 --> 00:09:22.110 the connections, and none at the prison time. 00:09:22.309 --> 00:09:24.990 It's the Teflon effect starting to form. He learns 00:09:24.990 --> 00:09:26.730 that if you leave the room right before the bomb 00:09:26.730 --> 00:09:29.049 goes off, you don't get blamed for the explosion. 00:09:29.549 --> 00:09:31.950 Precisely. And that money, which was essentially 00:09:31.950 --> 00:09:34.350 stolen, money laundered him into his next phase, 00:09:34.529 --> 00:09:37.029 the phase where he captures a whale. Leslie Wexner, 00:09:37.149 --> 00:09:39.649 the billionaire behind Victoria's Secret and 00:09:39.649 --> 00:09:42.250 The Limited. This relationship is the cornerstone 00:09:42.250 --> 00:09:45.389 of Epstein's wealth. Without Wexner, there is 00:09:45.389 --> 00:09:48.309 no Jeffrey Epstein as we know him. I want to 00:09:48.309 --> 00:09:50.289 drill down on the financial relationship here 00:09:50.289 --> 00:09:52.860 because the word advisor. Feels way too soft. 00:09:53.019 --> 00:09:54.820 You have notes here about power of attorney. 00:09:55.000 --> 00:09:58.500 Yes. In 1991, Epstein gains full power of attorney 00:09:58.500 --> 00:10:01.279 over Wexner's personal and financial life. Okay, 00:10:01.360 --> 00:10:03.460 for the non -lawyers listening, that doesn't 00:10:03.460 --> 00:10:05.500 just mean he gives advice. That means he can 00:10:05.500 --> 00:10:08.159 sign checks, he can buy property, he can hire 00:10:08.159 --> 00:10:10.940 and fire people. He is essentially acting as 00:10:10.940 --> 00:10:14.509 Leslie Wexner. It is total encapsulation. Wexner 00:10:14.509 --> 00:10:16.450 severed ties with his other longtime advisors. 00:10:16.669 --> 00:10:19.070 He moved his assets into trusts that Epstein 00:10:19.070 --> 00:10:21.470 controlled. And over the years, Epstein received 00:10:21.470 --> 00:10:24.330 something like $200 million in fees from Wexner. 00:10:24.570 --> 00:10:27.590 $200 million? For what? Beating the S &P 500? 00:10:27.889 --> 00:10:30.509 No. In fact, the source material we have suggests 00:10:30.509 --> 00:10:33.110 Epstein's actual trading returns were mediocre 00:10:33.110 --> 00:10:35.330 at best. He wasn't Warren Buffett. He wasn't 00:10:35.330 --> 00:10:37.250 a wizard of the stock market. So what was Wexner 00:10:37.250 --> 00:10:39.789 paying for? For lifestyle management and problem 00:10:39.789 --> 00:10:42.610 solving. Epstein bought the Manhattan mansion, 00:10:42.909 --> 00:10:45.309 the largest private residence in the city, from 00:10:45.309 --> 00:10:48.210 Wexner. He got the private jet from Wexner. It 00:10:48.210 --> 00:10:51.110 sounds less like an employee and more like, well, 00:10:51.250 --> 00:10:53.230 I don't know what it sounds like. But the level 00:10:53.230 --> 00:10:56.649 of dependency is staggering. And he secured that 00:10:56.649 --> 00:10:59.250 dependency by saving Wexner money in other ways. 00:11:00.129 --> 00:11:02.490 We have to talk about the Virgin Islands setup. 00:11:02.690 --> 00:11:06.029 The tax haven. This was the big pitch. Epstein 00:11:06.029 --> 00:11:08.370 moves his operation to the U .S. Virgin Islands. 00:11:08.509 --> 00:11:12.129 He sets up the Financial Trust Company. By doing 00:11:12.129 --> 00:11:14.629 this, thanks to local economic incentives designed 00:11:14.629 --> 00:11:16.690 to bring businesses to the islands. Right. They 00:11:16.690 --> 00:11:17.990 want the investment. They want the investment. 00:11:18.090 --> 00:11:20.730 So he drops his effective tax rate from nearly 00:11:20.730 --> 00:11:24.549 40 percent down to roughly 4 percent. So he saves 00:11:24.549 --> 00:11:27.029 his clients Wexner, another billionaire, Leon 00:11:27.029 --> 00:11:29.889 Black. Tens of millions, maybe hundreds of millions 00:11:29.889 --> 00:11:31.909 of dollars in taxes. And that buys you a lot 00:11:31.909 --> 00:11:34.110 of forgiveness. You can be eccentric. You can 00:11:34.110 --> 00:11:36.529 be creepy. You can be a college dropout. As long 00:11:36.529 --> 00:11:38.730 as you are saving the billionaire more money 00:11:38.730 --> 00:11:41.830 than you cost him. Money is the ultimate detergent. 00:11:41.990 --> 00:11:44.649 It scrubs everything clean until it doesn't. 00:11:44.929 --> 00:11:47.850 Which brings us to part two, the network. Yeah, 00:11:47.909 --> 00:11:50.309 because he didn't just want to be rich. He wanted 00:11:50.309 --> 00:11:53.090 to be respected. Or at least he wanted people 00:11:53.090 --> 00:11:55.940 to think he was smart. He had a deep, gnawing 00:11:55.940 --> 00:11:58.700 insecurity about his lack of education. I think 00:11:58.700 --> 00:12:01.220 that dropout status haunted him. He didn't just 00:12:01.220 --> 00:12:04.120 buy cars and planes. He bought scientists. He 00:12:04.120 --> 00:12:06.460 collected them like trophies. I'm looking at 00:12:06.460 --> 00:12:09.919 the list here. Stephen Hawking, Marvin Minsky 00:12:09.919 --> 00:12:12.500 from MIT, Nobel Prize winners. He was throwing 00:12:12.500 --> 00:12:15.759 money at Harvard. at the MIT Media Lab. He hosted 00:12:15.759 --> 00:12:18.179 the MindShift conference on his private island. 00:12:18.519 --> 00:12:20.840 But if you look at what he was interested in, 00:12:20.899 --> 00:12:23.960 it gets dark very, very quickly. He wasn't funding 00:12:23.960 --> 00:12:26.740 climate change research or basic biology. Eugenics. 00:12:26.840 --> 00:12:29.279 Eugenics and transhumanism. He was obsessed with 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:32.039 DNA. He told scientists he wanted to seed the 00:12:32.039 --> 00:12:35.039 human race with his own DNA. The baby ranch concept. 00:12:35.120 --> 00:12:36.960 That sounds like something out of a sci -fi movie. 00:12:37.240 --> 00:12:40.820 Yes. He reportedly had a plan to use his Zorro 00:12:40.820 --> 00:12:44.080 ranch in New Mexico to impregnate women on a 00:12:44.080 --> 00:12:47.059 massive scale. He wanted his head and his penis 00:12:47.059 --> 00:12:50.879 frozen after death. This is a God complex in 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.940 its purest form. He genuinely believed his genetics 00:12:53.940 --> 00:12:56.600 were superior. And the scientists, they just 00:12:56.600 --> 00:12:58.519 nodded along. They took the money. They took 00:12:58.519 --> 00:13:00.779 the checks. We have emails where they joke about 00:13:00.779 --> 00:13:03.299 his weird theories, but the money cleared. It's 00:13:03.299 --> 00:13:06.279 the exact same pattern as the bankers. Moral 00:13:06.279 --> 00:13:08.700 questions tend to fade when the funding is generous. 00:13:09.019 --> 00:13:10.779 OK, we have to talk about the political names. 00:13:11.080 --> 00:13:13.179 And I want to be careful here because, as we 00:13:13.179 --> 00:13:16.139 saw in 2025, this topic is basically a weapon 00:13:16.139 --> 00:13:18.279 now. It feels like every time a document drops, 00:13:18.460 --> 00:13:20.860 one side shouts, ha, gotcha, and the other side 00:13:20.860 --> 00:13:23.759 shouts, fake news. It's radioactive. But we have 00:13:23.759 --> 00:13:26.279 to be neutral reporters here. The reality is 00:13:26.279 --> 00:13:29.379 Epstein was an equal opportunity infiltrator. 00:13:29.460 --> 00:13:31.899 Let's look at the two big ones. Trump and Clinton. 00:13:32.019 --> 00:13:33.919 We've all seen the photos. We've heard the quotes. 00:13:34.330 --> 00:13:36.129 But what does the new evidence actually say? 00:13:36.350 --> 00:13:39.110 Let's take Trump first. They were neighbors in 00:13:39.110 --> 00:13:41.929 Palm Beach. Socially, they were very close in 00:13:41.929 --> 00:13:44.629 the 90s and early 2000s. You have that famous 00:13:44.629 --> 00:13:47.549 2002 quote where Trump calls him a terrific guy 00:13:47.549 --> 00:13:49.870 and notes he likes women on the younger side. 00:13:50.070 --> 00:13:52.470 Which, knowing what we know now, just makes your 00:13:52.470 --> 00:13:55.190 skin crawl. It does. But then there is a rift. 00:13:55.330 --> 00:13:57.929 Around 2004, they have a falling out over real 00:13:57.929 --> 00:14:01.669 estate. The Maison de la Mitié mansion in Palm 00:14:01.669 --> 00:14:04.169 Beach. Trump outbid him. Trump. Trump outbid 00:14:04.169 --> 00:14:06.970 him. Epstein was furious. Yeah. And they seemingly 00:14:06.970 --> 00:14:09.490 stopped hanging out after that. But the 2025 00:14:09.490 --> 00:14:12.570 releases really muddied the water on this rift. 00:14:12.610 --> 00:14:15.669 They did. That first 50 years birthday book that 00:14:15.669 --> 00:14:17.909 was released last September contained a letter 00:14:17.909 --> 00:14:20.289 attributed to Trump that seemed very warm, written 00:14:20.289 --> 00:14:22.629 well after the supposed fight. Right. Trump's 00:14:22.629 --> 00:14:24.600 team immediately claimed he didn't sign it. That 00:14:24.600 --> 00:14:26.620 was a forgery. And now there are legal challenges 00:14:26.620 --> 00:14:28.539 about its authenticity. And then we have the 00:14:28.539 --> 00:14:31.120 tapes released in 2024 where Epstein is just 00:14:31.120 --> 00:14:33.700 bragging. He's on tape claiming to be Trump's 00:14:33.700 --> 00:14:36.960 closest friend. But we have to remember, Epstein 00:14:36.960 --> 00:14:39.580 was a pathological liar. He lied about his degree, 00:14:39.779 --> 00:14:42.259 lied about his money. Was he lying about his 00:14:42.259 --> 00:14:44.320 access to the president to impress a 19 -year 00:14:44.320 --> 00:14:46.700 -old girl he was talking to? It's entirely possible. 00:14:46.899 --> 00:14:49.799 It's very possible. OK, what about Clinton? The 00:14:49.799 --> 00:14:53.059 flight logs are infamous. The hard evidence is 00:14:53.059 --> 00:14:57.139 27 flights on Epstein's plane. 27. And visits 00:14:57.139 --> 00:15:00.059 to the White House by Epstein in the early 90s. 00:15:00.200 --> 00:15:02.899 The connection through Ghislaine Maxwell was 00:15:02.899 --> 00:15:05.779 incredibly strong. But Clinton's defense has 00:15:05.779 --> 00:15:08.120 always been very specific. I never went to the 00:15:08.120 --> 00:15:10.200 island. And surprisingly, the Secret Service 00:15:10.200 --> 00:15:12.620 records that were released back in 2017 actually 00:15:12.620 --> 00:15:15.600 back that up. They show him on the plane, but 00:15:15.600 --> 00:15:17.580 they don't show agents deploying to Little St. 00:15:17.679 --> 00:15:20.120 James. So technically, he might be telling the 00:15:20.120 --> 00:15:22.629 truth about the island. while lying by omission 00:15:22.629 --> 00:15:24.850 about the depth of the entire relationship. It 00:15:24.850 --> 00:15:26.509 seems like Epstein didn't care about the party 00:15:26.509 --> 00:15:28.809 platform. He just cared about the power. He collected 00:15:28.809 --> 00:15:32.029 power. Party affiliation was irrelevant. You 00:15:32.029 --> 00:15:34.250 have Bill Gates, who met with him after the 2008 00:15:34.250 --> 00:15:36.269 conviction. That's the one that just baffles 00:15:36.269 --> 00:15:39.549 me. It's 2011. Epstein is a registered sex offender, 00:15:39.590 --> 00:15:41.970 and Bill Gates is taking meetings with him. Gates 00:15:41.970 --> 00:15:44.750 called it a huge mistake later on, but it just 00:15:44.750 --> 00:15:47.409 shows how Epstein managed to launder his reputation. 00:15:47.809 --> 00:15:50.330 He convinced powerful people he was some kind 00:15:50.330 --> 00:15:52.669 of victim of the system rather than a predator. 00:15:52.929 --> 00:15:54.789 It wasn't just Gates either. What about Noam 00:15:54.789 --> 00:15:58.289 Chomsky? That was another 2025 revelation. Financial 00:15:58.289 --> 00:16:02.629 transfers of about $270 ,000 and meetings well 00:16:02.629 --> 00:16:05.529 after the conviction. And Hewitt Barak, the former 00:16:05.529 --> 00:16:08.389 Israeli prime minister. A frequent visitor and 00:16:08.389 --> 00:16:10.710 a business partner in a company called Carbine. 00:16:11.289 --> 00:16:14.289 The network was wide and it was deep. Which brings 00:16:14.289 --> 00:16:16.470 us to the deep dive part of this episode, the 00:16:16.470 --> 00:16:19.350 intelligence angle. For years, this was dismissed 00:16:19.350 --> 00:16:22.529 as just a crazy conspiracy theory. Yes, he was 00:16:22.529 --> 00:16:26.429 a spy, he was Mossad, he was CIA, all of that. 00:16:26.629 --> 00:16:29.389 Right. But the deeper we dig into some of these 00:16:29.389 --> 00:16:32.009 business deals, and especially the Acosta comments, 00:16:32.309 --> 00:16:36.070 it stops looking like a theory and starts looking 00:16:36.070 --> 00:16:38.340 like a business model. It really does. Let's 00:16:38.340 --> 00:16:40.019 break down that Acosta comment because that is 00:16:40.019 --> 00:16:42.519 the smoking gun for a lot of people. OK, so remember 00:16:42.519 --> 00:16:45.220 Alexander Acosta? He was the U .S. attorney in 00:16:45.220 --> 00:16:47.299 Florida who signed that sweetheart plea deal 00:16:47.299 --> 00:16:49.600 in 2008. The deal we'll get to in a second. Right. 00:16:49.720 --> 00:16:52.000 When Acosta was being vetted for labor secretary 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:55.639 years later, he was asked why on earth he gave 00:16:55.639 --> 00:16:58.419 Epstein such a light sentence. His answer was 00:16:58.419 --> 00:17:01.320 chilling. He said he was told Epstein belonged 00:17:01.320 --> 00:17:04.259 to intelligence and was above his pay grade. 00:17:04.400 --> 00:17:07.279 A U .S. attorney was told to back off because 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:10.500 a child predator was an intelligence asset. That 00:17:10.500 --> 00:17:12.559 is the direct implication of his statement. And 00:17:12.559 --> 00:17:14.440 then you have to look at the House. the setup 00:17:14.440 --> 00:17:17.019 in the New York mansion, the media room. The 00:17:17.019 --> 00:17:19.299 wiring. I read about the wiring. Sources who 00:17:19.299 --> 00:17:21.359 worked on the house described a system of pinhole 00:17:21.359 --> 00:17:24.140 cameras in the bathrooms, in the bedrooms. The 00:17:24.140 --> 00:17:26.480 feeds all ran to a central server room. That's 00:17:26.480 --> 00:17:28.500 not just for perversion. That is a compromise 00:17:28.500 --> 00:17:31.440 factory. Exactly. If you invite Bill Gates or 00:17:31.440 --> 00:17:33.700 Prince Andrew or a senator or a president to 00:17:33.700 --> 00:17:36.200 your house and you catch them in a compromising 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:40.220 position, you own them. The 2025 email releases 00:17:40.220 --> 00:17:42.519 showed Epstein acting as a back channel between 00:17:42.519 --> 00:17:45.279 Israel and Saudi Arabia. He wasn't just a party 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:48.359 host. He was a geopolitical messenger. It explains 00:17:48.359 --> 00:17:50.859 the untouchable status he seemed to have for 00:17:50.859 --> 00:17:54.180 decades. He had insurance policies on powerful 00:17:54.180 --> 00:17:57.140 people. Until he became too toxic to keep. So 00:17:57.140 --> 00:17:59.039 let's talk about the actual crimes in that deal. 00:17:59.140 --> 00:18:02.289 Part three. Because before all the intelligence 00:18:02.289 --> 00:18:04.470 theories and the power brokers, they were actual 00:18:04.470 --> 00:18:07.369 victims, real teenage girls. And we have to be 00:18:07.369 --> 00:18:09.769 clear about the system he built. It wasn't random. 00:18:09.829 --> 00:18:12.849 It was an industrial operation. Recruiters like 00:18:12.849 --> 00:18:15.089 Ghislaine Maxwell would find vulnerable girls, 00:18:15.329 --> 00:18:18.069 often from broken homes, often needing money, 00:18:18.250 --> 00:18:21.289 and bring them into this world of massages. It 00:18:21.289 --> 00:18:24.910 was a pyramid scheme of abuse. And in 2005, the 00:18:24.910 --> 00:18:27.269 Palm Beach police actually did their job. They 00:18:27.269 --> 00:18:29.730 did. A police chief named Michael Ryder. They 00:18:29.730 --> 00:18:31.549 raided the house. They found the cameras. They 00:18:31.549 --> 00:18:34.049 found the photos. They were ready to charge him 00:18:34.049 --> 00:18:35.650 with multiple felonies that would have put him 00:18:35.650 --> 00:18:37.890 away for life. They had him dead to rights. And 00:18:37.890 --> 00:18:40.069 then the feds stepped in. The non -prosecution 00:18:40.069 --> 00:18:43.900 agreement. The NPA. This document is It's a legal 00:18:43.900 --> 00:18:46.279 unicorn. I've been studying legal cases for a 00:18:46.279 --> 00:18:48.000 long time, and I have never seen anything like 00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:50.599 it. It granted federal immunity not just to Epstein, 00:18:50.680 --> 00:18:53.839 but to any potential co -conspirators. Wait, 00:18:53.880 --> 00:18:56.160 any potential co -conspirators? Named or unnamed. 00:18:56.299 --> 00:18:59.680 Imagine robbing a bank, making a deal, and the 00:18:59.680 --> 00:19:02.980 prosecutor says, OK, you and anyone who helped 00:19:02.980 --> 00:19:05.440 you drive the car or hold the gun, even people 00:19:05.440 --> 00:19:07.779 we don't know about yet, are all safe forever. 00:19:08.039 --> 00:19:10.319 It's a blanket amnesty for the entire criminal 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:13.460 enterprise. And they kept this deal. secret from 00:19:13.460 --> 00:19:16.299 the victims which a federal judge later ruled 00:19:16.299 --> 00:19:18.640 was illegal it violated the crime victims rights 00:19:18.640 --> 00:19:22.180 act but the damage was done the result was he 00:19:22.180 --> 00:19:25.440 served 13 months and i struggle to even use the 00:19:25.440 --> 00:19:28.440 word served It was a complete joke. He slept 00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:31.339 in a private wing of the county jail. But for 00:19:31.339 --> 00:19:34.200 12 hours a day, six days a week, he was on work 00:19:34.200 --> 00:19:36.400 release. So he just went to the office. He went 00:19:36.400 --> 00:19:38.240 to his office in West Palm Beach. He had his 00:19:38.240 --> 00:19:40.740 driver. He met with lawyers and young women. 00:19:40.980 --> 00:19:42.880 And didn't he hire the jail deputies? I remember 00:19:42.880 --> 00:19:45.869 reading that. Yes. He paid the off duty deputies 00:19:45.869 --> 00:19:48.390 to act as his private security guards and receptionist 00:19:48.390 --> 00:19:50.529 while he was at the office. The police were on 00:19:50.529 --> 00:19:53.029 his payroll. It was a hallucination of justice. 00:19:53.430 --> 00:19:56.210 But the hallucination finally ended in 2019. 00:19:56.849 --> 00:19:59.869 The Miami Herald investigation reignited the 00:19:59.869 --> 00:20:02.589 case. The public outrage was just too loud to 00:20:02.589 --> 00:20:04.940 ignore. He gets arrested again. And this time 00:20:04.940 --> 00:20:07.180 it was different. It was federal. They raided 00:20:07.180 --> 00:20:10.059 the Manhattan townhouse. They found $70 ,000 00:20:10.059 --> 00:20:14.119 in cash, diamonds, and crucially, a fake Austrian 00:20:14.119 --> 00:20:16.980 passport. And what was on the passport? It had 00:20:16.980 --> 00:20:19.279 his picture, a different name, and it listed 00:20:19.279 --> 00:20:22.180 a Saudi residence. Which screams flight risk. 00:20:22.380 --> 00:20:25.319 Which is exactly why he was denied bail. He was 00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:27.279 looking at federal sex trafficking conspiracy 00:20:27.279 --> 00:20:30.299 charges. The walls were finally, finally closing 00:20:30.299 --> 00:20:33.299 in. He was facing 45 years to life. And then? 00:20:33.849 --> 00:20:37.150 August 10th, 2019, the death. The official narrative, 00:20:37.410 --> 00:20:40.230 suicide by hanging. Okay, and this is where we 00:20:40.230 --> 00:20:42.289 need to be really careful and separate the internet 00:20:42.289 --> 00:20:45.369 frenzy from the forensic reality because the 00:20:45.369 --> 00:20:47.170 anomalies are real. We aren't making them up. 00:20:47.269 --> 00:20:49.190 They are very real. First, just the protocol 00:20:49.190 --> 00:20:51.470 failures. He had been taken off suicide watch 00:20:51.470 --> 00:20:53.430 shortly before his death. Which makes absolutely 00:20:53.430 --> 00:20:55.569 no sense for a high -profile inmate who had just 00:20:55.569 --> 00:20:57.670 tried to hurt himself weeks earlier. His cellmate 00:20:57.670 --> 00:20:59.710 was transferred out at the last minute, leaving 00:20:59.710 --> 00:21:02.630 him alone. The two guards assigned to his unit 00:21:02.630 --> 00:21:04.869 admitted to falsifying logs. They fell asleep 00:21:04.869 --> 00:21:07.130 and didn't check on him for at least three hours. 00:21:07.410 --> 00:21:09.650 And the cameras, the camera that were pointing 00:21:09.650 --> 00:21:12.690 at his cell. Two cameras outside the cell malfunction. 00:21:13.210 --> 00:21:15.809 It just reads like a bad spy novel. Oh, sorry, 00:21:15.950 --> 00:21:17.529 the cameras broke and the guards fell asleep 00:21:17.529 --> 00:21:19.950 at the exact same time. It strains credulity. 00:21:20.089 --> 00:21:22.289 But let's look at the forensics, the hyoid bone. 00:21:22.430 --> 00:21:24.869 This is the detail everyone latched onto and 00:21:24.869 --> 00:21:27.329 for good reason. Explain that for us. What is 00:21:27.329 --> 00:21:30.109 the hyoid bone and why is it so important? It's 00:21:30.109 --> 00:21:32.430 a small U -shaped bone in the neck that supports 00:21:32.430 --> 00:21:36.109 the tongue. Dr. Michael Baden, the famous pathologist 00:21:36.109 --> 00:21:39.029 hired by the Epstein family to observe the autopsy, 00:21:39.150 --> 00:21:42.230 noted the hyoid was broken. Not just broken, 00:21:42.309 --> 00:21:46.009 but fractured in three places. Now, in hangings, 00:21:46.009 --> 00:21:48.930 especially typical suicides, this happens in 00:21:48.930 --> 00:21:52.509 about 6 % of cases. 6%, so it's very rare. It's 00:21:52.509 --> 00:21:54.910 very rare. However, in strangulation homicide, 00:21:55.329 --> 00:21:57.829 it's extremely common. It's almost a signature 00:21:57.829 --> 00:22:00.019 of someone being manually strangled. So it's 00:22:00.019 --> 00:22:03.420 possible it was suicide. But statistically, the 00:22:03.420 --> 00:22:05.660 evidence points much more strongly towards murder. 00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:08.819 It raises a massive red flag. Dr. Baden was very 00:22:08.819 --> 00:22:10.480 clear that the injuries were more consistent 00:22:10.480 --> 00:22:13.140 with homicide or a very violent struggle. But 00:22:13.140 --> 00:22:15.259 here is where it gets really interesting, especially 00:22:15.259 --> 00:22:19.680 for us here in 2026. Last year, in July 2025, 00:22:20.259 --> 00:22:22.940 the FBI finally released the surveillance footage 00:22:22.940 --> 00:22:24.940 from that night. And this was supposed to put 00:22:24.940 --> 00:22:27.079 all the conspiracy theories to bed. Instead, 00:22:27.279 --> 00:22:29.140 it poured gasoline on them. Because of the glitch. 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:32.640 The video has a jump. A literal time jump. The 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:35.799 clock on the footage goes from 11 .58 .58 to 00:22:35.799 --> 00:22:39.400 12 .000000. So wait, nearly three minutes are 00:22:39.400 --> 00:22:41.960 just gone. Gone. Erased. Right at the critical 00:22:41.960 --> 00:22:44.519 moment. And it gets worse. The metadata, the 00:22:44.519 --> 00:22:46.400 digital fingerprint of the file shows the video 00:22:46.400 --> 00:22:48.500 was modified despite the FBI claiming it was 00:22:48.500 --> 00:22:51.980 raw, unedited footage. CBS News even cited an 00:22:51.980 --> 00:22:54.180 official saying an unedited version exists somewhere. 00:22:54.359 --> 00:22:56.700 So let's just lay this out. We have a high value 00:22:56.700 --> 00:22:59.500 prisoner connected to intelligence agencies who 00:22:59.500 --> 00:23:02.500 dies in a cell where the cameras break, the guards 00:23:02.500 --> 00:23:05.259 sleep. And the footage that is released six years 00:23:05.259 --> 00:23:08.140 later has a suspicious cut right at the critical 00:23:08.140 --> 00:23:11.619 moment and has been digitally altered. It means 00:23:11.619 --> 00:23:14.119 that whether it was suicide or murder, the official 00:23:14.119 --> 00:23:17.319 story is incomplete at best and a cover -up at 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:20.380 worst. It fuels the conspiracy not because people 00:23:20.380 --> 00:23:23.759 are crazy, but because there is documented incompetence 00:23:23.759 --> 00:23:26.640 or tampering by federal agencies. It feels like 00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:29.359 gaslighting on a national scale. It is. It forces 00:23:29.359 --> 00:23:32.240 you to ask, who benefits from the silence? Who 00:23:32.240 --> 00:23:34.259 benefits from the trial never happening? Which 00:23:34.259 --> 00:23:37.380 brings us to the aftermath. We are now in 2026. 00:23:38.119 --> 00:23:41.039 What is the legacy of all this? Fatigue. I think 00:23:41.039 --> 00:23:43.140 that's the main word, list fatigue. Oh, absolutely. 00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:45.059 We've been promised the client list for years. 00:23:45.259 --> 00:23:47.259 It's always just around the corner. And every 00:23:47.259 --> 00:23:49.019 time something is released, it's redacted or 00:23:49.019 --> 00:23:51.720 it's just known associates or it's widely misinterpreted. 00:23:52.000 --> 00:23:55.319 Trump's DOJ, under Pam Bondi, claimed in 2025 00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:58.500 there was no list. Which, I'm sorry, nobody believes. 00:23:59.119 --> 00:24:01.059 And then you have the political weaponization. 00:24:01.099 --> 00:24:03.579 You have claims from people like James O 'Keefe 00:24:03.579 --> 00:24:06.400 and Mark Epstein, Jeffrey's brother, that Democrats 00:24:06.400 --> 00:24:08.380 are scrubbing Republican names and Republicans 00:24:08.380 --> 00:24:10.480 are scrubbing Democratic names from the documents. 00:24:10.740 --> 00:24:12.599 It's just become a culture war artifact. You 00:24:12.599 --> 00:24:15.559 have the Epstein didn't kill himself meme, which 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:17.220 is basically a permanent fixture of the Internet 00:24:17.220 --> 00:24:20.259 now. You had that bizarre statue on the National 00:24:20.259 --> 00:24:22.900 Mall last year, the best friends forever statue 00:24:22.900 --> 00:24:25.359 of Trump and Epstein. Which the police removed 00:24:25.359 --> 00:24:28.220 almost immediately. But it shows how deeply this 00:24:28.220 --> 00:24:30.700 has embedded itself in the national psyche. It's 00:24:30.700 --> 00:24:33.500 a symbol of total elite corruption. And sadly, 00:24:33.599 --> 00:24:35.920 in all of this, the victims so often get lost. 00:24:36.099 --> 00:24:39.500 They do. The estate paid out over $125 million 00:24:39.500 --> 00:24:42.339 between the victim's fund and the U .S. Virgin 00:24:42.339 --> 00:24:44.980 Islands settlement. But because the criminal 00:24:44.980 --> 00:24:47.140 case was dismissed when he died, there was no 00:24:47.140 --> 00:24:49.640 trial. There was no public reckoning. The money 00:24:49.640 --> 00:24:53.140 is a quiet settlement, not justice. So as we 00:24:53.140 --> 00:24:55.640 wrap up this deep dive, how do we synthesize 00:24:55.640 --> 00:24:57.900 all of this? What's the takeaway? I think we 00:24:57.900 --> 00:25:00.119 have to look at Epstein not as an anomaly, but 00:25:00.119 --> 00:25:03.099 as a symptom. He was a symptom of a system where 00:25:03.099 --> 00:25:05.680 wealth and connections can literally bend reality. 00:25:06.279 --> 00:25:09.119 He bent the financial system with offshore accounts. 00:25:09.440 --> 00:25:12.539 He bent the legal system with the MPA. He bent 00:25:12.539 --> 00:25:15.099 the social system by buying his way into Harvard 00:25:15.099 --> 00:25:17.599 and the White House. And the deep dive takeaway 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.160 here is that the story isn't just about what 00:25:20.160 --> 00:25:22.539 happened in that jail cell on August 10th. It's 00:25:22.539 --> 00:25:25.079 about how he stayed out of a cell for 30 years. 00:25:25.240 --> 00:25:28.599 Exactly. The mechanism of his rise is every bit 00:25:28.599 --> 00:25:31.799 as important as the mystery of his fall. I want 00:25:31.799 --> 00:25:34.220 to leave you with one final provocative thought. 00:25:34.559 --> 00:25:36.980 We know about the edited tapes. We know about 00:25:36.980 --> 00:25:39.079 the fake passport. We know about the broken bone. 00:25:39.440 --> 00:25:41.400 But the biggest question, the one that underpins 00:25:41.400 --> 00:25:45.059 everything, remains. If the blackmail tapes really 00:25:45.059 --> 00:25:47.859 existed, the ones implied by Maxwell, the ones 00:25:47.859 --> 00:25:50.099 hinted at in the black book, where are they now? 00:25:50.430 --> 00:25:52.390 And more importantly, who is currently sleeping 00:25:52.390 --> 00:25:54.789 soundly at night because they haven't been released? 00:25:54.990 --> 00:25:57.430 That is the question. Thank you for listening 00:25:57.430 --> 00:25:59.009 to The Deep Dive. See you next time.