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Welcome back to another Deep Dive. Today we are

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dusting off some of the really heavy leather

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-bound history books to talk about a man who,

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well, he's been called just about everything

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in the dictionary. Oh, absolutely. Everything

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from a visionary genius to a repressive tyrant.

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A master manipulator, and this one is maybe the

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most cutting of all, a bit of a bore, but...

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As is usually the case when you actually peel

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back the layers of history, this guy's life is

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anything but boring. It really isn't. It's a

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massive study in contradiction. In fact, I'd

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argue he's one of the most complex characters

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we've ever covered. We are talking about Clemens

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von Metternich. Now, I know if that name just

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conjures up images of dusty treaties and guys

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in powdered wigs, just stick with us. Because

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this is the man who is known as the Coachman

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of Europe. That's such a heavy title. It is right.

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He literally drove the continent's politics for

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30 years. And it's not an exaggeration to say

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he is arguably the most important diplomat of

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the 19th century. Maybe even. Maybe even the

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most important diplomat since the concept of

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diplomacy was invented. He orchestrated the peace

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of an entire continent after the absolute chaos

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of the Napoleonic Wars. But here's the paradox.

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And this is what I really want to unpack today.

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You have this figure who. Historians, you know,

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famous ones like A .J .P. Taylor, have described

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as the most boring man in European history. Right.

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They pan him as the stumbling block to progress,

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the guy who just wanted to freeze time and stop

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anything new from happening. And yet this supposedly

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boring man was a legendary diplomat who bedded

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princesses, completely outwitted Napoleon, which,

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let's be clear, was almost impossible to do.

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Almost. And he created a geopolitical system

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that prevented a major Europe -wide war for almost

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a century. For 100 years, basically. Exactly.

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It's like calling James Bond boring because he

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has to fill out paperwork. So our mission for

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this deep dive is pretty clear. We need to figure

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out who the real Metternich was. Was he the ultimate

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peacekeeper who saved Europe from destroying

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itself? Or was he just a paranoid control freak

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who crushed freedom because he was terrified

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of change? And to understand that, we have to

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look at his system. We have to look at his absolute

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obsession with order. But most importantly, and

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I think this is where we have to start, we have

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to look at where that obsession came from. Because

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people aren't born wanting to police an entire

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continent. That's a learned behavior. So let's

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dive into the sources. We've got a stack of biographical

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accounts, historical analyses, and records that

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paint a really detailed picture of his life.

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Let's start at the very beginning. Who creates?

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a Clemens von Metternich. Well, he was born in

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1773 in Koblenz. And the context here is key.

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This is the era of the Holy Roman Empire. It's

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a messy, complicated patchwork of states. He's

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born into the House of Metternich, which is old,

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aristocratic, Rhenish nobility. I mean, these

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people have been running things for centuries.

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And the apple doesn't fall far from the tree,

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right? His dad, Franz Korkarl, was a diplomat,

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too. But the descriptions of his father in the

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source material are absolutely hilarious. They're

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brutal. Brutal. One contemporary called him a

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boring babbler and chronic liar. Which, you have

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to admit, sets a pretty low bar for Clemens.

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Right. I mean, talk about overcoming your genetics.

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Or maybe, maybe utilizing them. If your dad is

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a chronic liar, maybe you learn a thing or two

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about bending the truth early on. That has to

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come in handy in high -stakes diplomacy. It certainly

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helps to know how to bluff. But Clemens had something

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his father didn't seem to have, a truly first

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-rate education. He studied at the universities

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of Strasbourg and Mainz. But there are some really

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interesting details about his upbringing that

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stood out to me, specifically his tutor. Yes,

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this caught my eye immediately. He was a Catholic

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noble, obviously, but he had a Protestant tutor,

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John Frederick Simon. And this guy wasn't just

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teaching him Latin and Greek. No, not at all.

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He taught him swimming and horsemanship. it's

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a very specific kind of pedagogy it sounds like

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he was being prepped to be a well -rounded physical

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specimen not just a bookworm in the 18th century

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that enlightenment idea of the healthy body and

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the healthy mind was taking root He needed to

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be able to ride a horse as well as he could ride

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a treaty. And he was socially connected from

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day one. I read that he actually roomed with

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the future king of Bavaria while he was a student.

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He did. So from the time he was a teenager, he

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is embedded in the highest echelons of power.

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He isn't looking at power from the outside. He's

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sleeping in the same dorm room as it. He understands

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how princes think because he's living with them.

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But then history intervenes. And this is the

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moment that I think defines his entire psychology.

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The turning point. The French Revolution. You

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cannot overstate this, right? He's a young man.

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He's living the high life. He's got his whole

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future ahead of him as this powerful aristocrat.

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And then 1789 hits. And he witnessed the revolution

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firsthand. And for Metternich, you have to understand,

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this wasn't just some political event he read

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about in the newspapers. It was a personal catastrophe.

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The French Revolutionary armies didn't just stay

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in France. They swept into the Rhineland. And

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they annexed the Metternich family estates. in

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the moselle valley so they literally took his

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home they took his home they cut off his income

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they erased his heritage he saw the revolution

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not as this glorious uprising of the people singing

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songs of liberty but as a destructive mob that

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stole property and created absolute chaos that

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explains so much about his later policies when

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we talk about him hating liberalism Later in

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this deep dive, it's not because he read some

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philosophical book and, you know, politely disagreed

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with the arguments. It's because liberalism in

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his eyes meant a French soldier showing up at

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your door and taking your castle. Precisely.

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It fueled a lifelong trauma. He equated revolution

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with theft and disorder. He wasn't just theoretically

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conservative. He was defensively conservative.

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He felt that if you give the mob an inch, they

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will take everything you own. He also saw the

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ugly side of war early on, didn't he? He wasn't

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just sitting in a palace the whole time. No,

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he was at the siege of Valenciennes. He saw the

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interrogation of French ministers. He was close

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to the front lines. And that taught him that

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war is unpredictable, messy, and ruinous. This

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is a key pillar of his later philosophy. War

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is bad for business and it's bad for the survival

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of empires. He wanted to win by talking, not

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by shooting, because he knew what shooting looked

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like. So the family loses their estates. They

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have to retreat to Vienna and Clemens needs a

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job. or at least a way to climb back up the ladder.

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And in 18th century Austria, if you want to get

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ahead, how do you do that? You marry well. You

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marry very, very well. Enter Countess Eleanor

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von Kaunitz -Rietberg. This was a massive coup

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for him. You have to remember the name Kaunitz.

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She was the granddaughter of the famous Austrian

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Chancellor Kaunitz, who had served Maria Theresa.

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It was the golden ticket into the absolute inner

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circle of Viennese society. But reading about

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the marriage... It doesn't exactly sound like

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a fairy tale romance. It sounds much more like

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a corporate merger. It was purely a business

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transaction for him. The sources are pretty clear

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that he showed way less affection for her than

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she did for him. It was an arranged marriage.

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Eleanor bore the children. Metternich bore the

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title. And there were strings attached. I laughed

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when I read this. Her father, Prince Connitz,

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actually had a condition that Metternich couldn't

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serve as a diplomat as long as the prince was

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still alive. Which is such a weird power move

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by the father -in -law. Isn't it? You can marry

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my daughter, you can have the prestige of my

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name, but you cannot have a job until I die.

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It delayed his career slightly, but eventually

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the prince passed away and the doors opened.

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And once those doors open, we see the other side

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of Metternich emerge. The coachman starts his

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ride. He gets sent to Dresden as a diplomat in

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1801. Dresden. And it was described at the time

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as a very boring court. Not a lot of high stakes

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politics happening there. Which seems to be Metternich's

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kryptonite. If he's bored, he gets into trouble.

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Or he finds entertainment. In Dresden, he took

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a mistress, Princess Katharina Bagration. She

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was a Russian princess, very glamorous, very

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wild. She even bore him a daughter. This becomes

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a pattern, doesn't it? Throughout his life, he's

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balancing high -level statecraft with a very

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active, very complex love life. It does. But

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we shouldn't dismiss Dresden just as a place

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for affairs. This is also where he met Friedrich

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Gens. Ah, Gens. Yeah, Gens was a publicist, a

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writer, a brilliant thinker. He became Metternich's

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lifelong confidant and intellectual sparring

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partner. So amidst the affairs, he was building

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his brain trust. He was finding the people who

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would help him articulate his system. Then he

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gets sent to Berlin. And this is where the stakes

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get real. His job is to convince Prussia to join

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the coalition against Napoleon. Napoleon is rising.

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He's threatening everyone. And Austria needs

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friends. And Metternich fails. Completely. Pretty

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much. He tries everything. He uses his charm.

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He uses his logic. But Prussia, well, Prussia's

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indecisive. They end up signing a treaty with

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France instead. Ouch. That has to hurt the ego.

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It did. But this failure is crucial for his development.

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It taught him that alliances are fragile. You

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can't rely on promises. You can't rely on honor.

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You have to rely on cold, hard interests. And

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it taught him that Prussia was unreliable, something

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he would remember at the Congress of Vienna years

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later. So up to this point, he's learned that

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revolution is theft, war is chaos, and allies

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are flaky. He's building quite the cynical worldview.

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I'd call it realist. He's stripping away the

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romance of politics. And he needed that realism

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because his next assignment was the toughest

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gig in Europe. In 1806, he was appointed ambassador

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to France. Into the lion's den, Paris, the heart

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of the enemy. And ironically, Napoleon requested

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him, or at least Napoleon requested a Konitz

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because of that famous family name, and Metternich

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fit the bill. Napoleon wanted someone from the

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old aristocracy to validate his new empire. And

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Metternich lived it up. The sources say he had

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a generous salary, something like 90 ,000 florins,

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and he spent it. He was the life of the party.

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And of course, he had an affair with the wife

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of one of Napoleon's generals, Madame Junot.

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He was networking in the most intimate way possible.

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That's one word for it. But this is where he

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really takes the measure of Napoleon. He's seeing

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the emperor up close. And there's this famous

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story about Napoleon's 39th birthday that I think

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really shows Metternich's steel. Oh, yeah. August

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1808. Tensions are rising between Austria and

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France. Napoleon is holding a public reception.

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The entire diplomatic corps is there. And Napoleon

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essentially corners Metternich and just starts

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shouting at him. In public? In public. He's screaming

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about war preparations, trying to bully him in

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front of everyone. Most people would wither.

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Napoleon is the master of Europe at this point.

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He's terrifying. Metternich stood his ground.

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He didn't flinch. He answered calmly. And that

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earned him a certain level of respect from Napoleon.

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But it also confirmed to Metternich that war

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was coming and that Austria was in deep, deep

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trouble. He realized that the house of Hohenzollern

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in Prussia was sidelined. Russia was unreliable

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and Austria was vulnerable. He actually advised

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Vienna to delay the war, didn't he? He did. He

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wrote back to Vienna and said, wait. And his

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argument was fascinating. He said that Napoleon

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had no successor. If he died, the whole French

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Empire would crumble. So the best strategy was

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just to wait him out. Time was on Austria's side.

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But Vienna didn't listen. No. The war party in

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Vienna wanted glory. They went to war in 1809.

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And that leads us to the Battle of Wagram. Which

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was a disaster for Austria. A crushing defeat.

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Napoleon occupies Vienna. It's humiliating. So

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the foreign minister at the time, a guy named

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Stadion, resigns in disgrace. And who picks up

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the pieces? Metternich. He takes over in October

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1809. He is now the foreign minister of a beaten,

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bankrupt, and humiliated empire. And this is

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where the real chess match begins. This is where

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he earns his paycheck. He has a weak hand. He

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has almost no cards to play. His army is shattered.

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His treasury is empty. So what does he do? He

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sells a princess. The marriage deal. It is one

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of the most cynical and brilliant moves in diplomatic

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history. He orchestrates the marriage between

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the archduchess Marie Louise. The daughter of

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the Austrian emperor. Exactly. The emperor's

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own daughter marrying her to Napoleon. This is

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wild to think about. Napoleon, the revolutionary,

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the ogre, the usurper, marrying into the Habsburgs,

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the oldest, most prestigious royal house in Europe.

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And Metternich set it up. Metternich later claimed

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it was Napoleon's idea, you know, to distance

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himself from it because it was quite controversial.

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But at the time. He was all for it. He saw it

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as the only way to buy Austria's survival. It

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created a dynastic link. It made Napoleon the

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emperor's son in law. It's much harder to destroy

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your father in law's empire than a stranger's.

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He even stayed in Paris for six months after

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the wedding to renegotiate terms. Using the marriage

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as leverage. He's practically holding the honeymoon

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hostage. He managed to get some trading rights,

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delayed some war payments. It wasn't a total

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victory. I mean, Austria was still a vassal state,

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essentially, but it kept the heart of the empire

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beating. But then the pivot. 1812. Napoleon decides

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to invade Russia. This is the beginning of the

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end, though nobody knows it yet. And he forces

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Austria to be his ally. This puts Metternich

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in a terrible position. If he refuses, Napoleon

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invades Austria. If he agrees, he's at war with

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Russia, a potential future ally. So he pulls

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off a masterstroke of duplicity. What does he

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do? He agrees to send troops. He sends 30 ,000

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Austrian soldiers to support Napoleon. But secretly,

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through back channels, he tells Russia and Britain,

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look. We're just playing along. These troops

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are going to stay on the periphery. They aren't

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going to fight hard. Don't take it personally.

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That is incredibly risky. If Napoleon found out

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he was winking at the enemy while sending troops.

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Metternich would have been finished, executed

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probably, but he played in the middle perfectly.

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He let Napoleon march into the Russian winter

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and destroy his own army. And when Napoleon comes

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limping back, broken and defeated, Metternich

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is waiting. The Dresden meeting in 1813. This

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scene is like the climax of a movie. It was a

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nine -hour meeting. Just Metternich and Napoleon,

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nine hours locked in a room. Can you imagine

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the tension? The power dynamic is completely

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flipped. It was stormy. Metternich essentially

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told the emperor that his time was up. He told

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him that he had lost hundreds of thousands of

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men, that Europe was united against him, and

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he couldn't keep fighting the whole world. And

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how did Napoleon react? He's not used to being

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talked down to. Napoleon was furious. He was

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pacing, shouting. He reportedly threw his famous

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hat on the floor waiting for Metternich to pick

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it up, which was standard court etiquette. You

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bow, you pick up the emperor's hat. Metternich

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didn't pick it up. He just looked at it. That

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is a power move. I'm not your servant anymore.

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Exactly. It signaled that the days of Austrian

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subservience were over. Metternich left that

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meeting and brought Austria into the coalition

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against Napoleon. the War of the Sixth Coalition.

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But he didn't just join. He took charge. This

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is what impresses me. Austria was the weakest

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of the great powers militarily, but Metternich

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ends up running the show. He ensured that an

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Austrian general, Schwarzenberg, led the Allied

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armies, not the Tsar of Russia. This was crucial

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because Metternich didn't trust the Tsar, Alexander

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III. He thought Alexander was erratic and potentially

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dangerous. He wanted the war to be fought on

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Austrian terms, not Russian ones. So he's fighting

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Napoleon, but he's also managing his allies to

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make sure Russia doesn't get too powerful. He's

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playing 4D chess while everyone else is playing

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checkers. Always the balance of power. And he

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succeeded. After the Battle of Leipzig, Napoleon

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is on the run. Metternich is awarded the title

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of Prince First von Metternich. He has reached

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the pinnacle. And in classic Metternich fashion,

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while he was negotiating the fate of Europe,

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he was also carrying on another high -profile

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affair. With the Duchess of Sagan, Princess Villemin,

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the sources say she had more influence over him

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than any other mistress. He was literally writing

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love letters to her during the negotiations that

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would determine the future of France. He'd write

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a clause about borders, then write a paragraph

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about his broken heart. Prioritizing. So Napoleon

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is finally defeated. He's sent to Elba. And now

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the victors gather to divide the spoils. The

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Congress of Vienna, 1814. This is Metternich's

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masterpiece. This is what he is famous for. The

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heads of state and 216 noble families descend

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on Vienna. It is the biggest gathering of power

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in European history up to that point. And Metternich

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is the host with the most. He organized everything.

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He knew that if you want to control people, you

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have to control their environment. He organized

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vast entertainments, mask balls, fireworks displays,

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sleigh rides. The famous quote from the time

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is, the Congress does not walk. It dances. It

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was a tactic, a deliberate strategy. Keep the

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delegates, the lesser princes, and the hangers

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-on busy with champagne and dancing so they don't

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ask difficult questions. Meanwhile, he and the

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big four, Austria, Britain, Prussia, Russia,

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did the real work in the back rooms. But even

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in the back rooms, it wasn't all smooth sailing.

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There was a huge crisis over Poland. A massive

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crisis. It nearly blew up the peace before it

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started. Russia wanted to annex all of Poland.

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Prussia wanted to annex all of Saxony. Metternich

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saw this as a disaster. It would make Russia

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too strong and Prussia too dominant in Germany.

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It upset the balance. It got heated. I read that

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the Tsar of Russia, Alexander I, actually challenged

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Metternich to a duel. Can you imagine the emperor

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of Russia and the foreign minister of Austria

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shooting at each other in a field? It shows how

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personal these politics were. But Metternich

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held firm. He refused to back down. He managed

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to check Russian power and prevent Prussia from

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swallowing Saxony whole. He forged a secret alliance

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with Britain and France to pressure Russia. And

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speaking of France, Talleyrand, the French diplomat,

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managed to wheedle his way into the inner circle,

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turning the big four into the big five. Which

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Metternich eventually allowed because he realized

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he needed France. A strong... France, but not

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a Napoleonic France, was necessary to balance

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out Russia. It was all about the equilibrium.

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No one power could be allowed to dominate. But

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then the nightmare scenario. March 1815. Metternich

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is sleeping. He is woken up at 6 a .m. by a courier.

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Napoleon has escaped Elba. That must have been

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a terrifying wake -up call. The monster is loose.

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But in a strange twist, it actually helped Metternich.

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The Allies had been bickering, almost fighting

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each other over Poland and Saxony. Within hours

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of the news of Napoleon's escape, they reunited.

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The common enemy brought them back together.

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The Hundred Days Napoleon tries to make a comeback,

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gathers an army, but he's finally defeated at

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Waterloo. And this solidified what became known

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as the Concert of Europe. The idea that the great

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powers shouldn't just fight for territory. They

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should work together to maintain stability. They

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should meet regularly to solve problems before

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they become wars. This brings us to the Metternich

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system. We hear this term a lot. Let's really

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define this for the listener. What was the philosophy

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here? Stability above all else. Peace through

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order. Metternich believed that freedom without

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order was just chaos. He had seen the French

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Revolution. He didn't want to repeat. He believed

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that monarchs were the only legitimate source

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of power. So he hated two things specifically,

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liberalism and nationalism. Correct. Liberalism

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meant... constitutions, free press, parliaments,

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things that challenged the absolute power of

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monarchs. He thought these were slippery slopes

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to the guillotine. And nationalism. Nationalism

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was even more dangerous for Austria. You have

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to look at the map. The Austrian Empire was a

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multi -ethnic patchwork. You had Germans, Hungarians,

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Czechs, Italians, Poles, Croats, all living under

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one emperor. If they all started believing in

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nationalism, the idea that every people deserves

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their own state, the Austrian Empire would dissolve

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instantly. would cease to exist. So he becomes

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the policeman of Europe. He has to stop these

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ideas from spreading. Exactly. He sets up a surveillance

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gate. He was obsessed with information. He opened

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letters. He had spies everywhere. He once said

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the greatest evil and therefore the most immediate

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is the press. You really hated journalists. He

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viewed ideas as viruses. If you let them spread,

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they infect the population. So you have to quarantine

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them. You have to stop the infection at the source.

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And he had tools for this. The Carlsbad Decrees

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in 1819. This is a major moment in his repression.

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This was triggered by the assassination of a

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conservative playwright, August von Kotzebue.

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He was killed by a radical student. Metternich

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used this murder as a pretext, a perfect excuse

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to clamp down on all German universities. It's

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the classic, never let a good crisis go to waste.

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He banned student fraternities, he fired liberal

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professors, and he installed censors in the press

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across the German Confederation. He basically

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put the entire German intellectual world on lockdown.

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He also used the Congress system, these regular

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meetings of the great powers, to authorize military

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intervention. This is what makes him different

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from just a normal diplomat. He sent armies into

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other countries to stop revolutions. When revolts

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broke out in Naples, in Spain, or in Piedmont,

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Metternich argued that these weren't internal

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matters, they were threats to the system. So

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he sent Austrian troops to crush them. He was

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the fireman of Europe, rushing around, putting

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out these liberal fires wherever they sparked.

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But it worked. We have to acknowledge that. For

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decades, there was no major war between the great

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powers. The system held. But there were cracks.

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The Eastern question. This is where things get

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tricky for him. The Greek War of Independence

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in the 1820s. This was a nightmare for Metternich.

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Europe loved the Greeks. Lord Byron went there

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to fight. Everyone was pro -Greek democracy,

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seeing them as the descendants of Plato and Aristotle

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fighting the barbaric Turks. But Metternich opposed

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it. Why? Because the Greeks were rebelling against

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their legitimate sovereign, the Ottoman Sultan.

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Metternich didn't like the Turks particularly,

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but he liked legitimacy. If you allow the Greeks

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to rebel, who's next? the Hungarians, the Italians.

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Plus, he feared that if the Ottoman Empire collapsed,

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Russia would swoop in and take everything. He

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valued the balance of power over the romantic

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idea of Greek freedom. It shows how committed

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he was to his principles, even when they were

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incredibly unpopular. He was willing to be the

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bad guy if it meant keeping the map stable. Unpopular

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is an understatement. By the 1830s, he was becoming

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a relic, a dinosaur. Let's talk about his personal

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life during this time because it's actually quite

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tragic. We think of him as this cold marble figure,

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but he suffered immense loss. He did. His personal

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life was filled with grief. His first wife, Eleanor,

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died in 1825. He remarried to Antoinette, who

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was much younger. She died in 1829, just five

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days after childbirth. That is heartbreaking.

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And his children. His son, Victor, whom he adored,

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died of tuberculosis. His daughter, Clementine,

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died. He lost family member after family member.

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The man who controlled Europe couldn't save his

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own family. By the 1830s, the sources describe

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him as gray, drawn. He's complaining about everything.

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He sounds like a grumpy old man yelling at clouds.

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He had a new rival in Britain, Lord Palmerston.

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Palmerston was a liberal interventionist, the

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opposite of Metternich. Metternich famously wrote,

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Pomerson is wrong about everything. He felt like

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the world was moving away from him. He was feeling

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isolated. And at home, things were stagnating.

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Emperor Francis, his patron, died in 1835. And

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who succeeded him? Ferdinand I. And this is a

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tragedy for the Austrian Empire. Ferdinand was

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severely mentally and physically disabled. He

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couldn't really rule. There are stories of him

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being unable to sign his own name or make basic

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decisions. So a council was set up to rule in

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his place. But this meant... Metternich lost

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his absolute influence. He had to share power

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with his rival, Count Collorat. And they hated

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each other. They deadlocked the government. So

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you have a paralyzed government, a rotting system,

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censorship everywhere. And underneath, the pressure

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is building. The economy was struggling. And

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that thing he feared most, nationalism, was boiling

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over. especially in Hungary. Metternich knew

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it. He wasn't blind. When the 1830 revolution

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happened in France, he said, my whole life's

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work is destroyed. He saw the writing on the

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wall. He knew the dam was going to break. And

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break it did. 1848. The year of revolutions,

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it swept across Europe like a wildfire. France,

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Germany, Italy. Governments were falling left

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and right. And finally, it reached Vienna. March

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13th, 1848. The mob gathers. And they aren't

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just asking for lower taxes. No, they were demanding

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Metternich's resignation. He was the symbol of

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everything they hated. The censorship, the police

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state, the stagnation. There's this dramatic

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scene where the crowd is cheering the emperor,

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because they still respect the monarchy, but

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they are screaming for Metternich's head. He

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became the scapegoat. The imperial family realized

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that to save themselves, they had to sacrifice

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him. He hid in the chancellery while the mob

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raged outside. And finally, realizing he had

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no support left, not even from the archdukes,

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he resigned. His quote from that moment is devastating.

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I am no longer anybody. I have nothing more to

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do. The fall of a titan. 30 years of dominance

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ended in an afternoon. And the escape. This is

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like a spy novel. He has to flee Vienna. It was

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humiliating. He had to leave in a laundry cart

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to avoid being recognized and torn apart by the

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mob. He had a little cash in his pocket and his

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wife, Melanie. He travels across a Europe that

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is in flames, fleeing the very revolutions he

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tried to stop. He eventually makes it to England.

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Exile. He ends up living in London and Brighton.

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It's ironic he found safety in the most liberal

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country in Europe, the country he often criticized.

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And he was broke. His assets in Austria were

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frozen. He had to rely on loans to survive. But

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amazingly, he was still a celebrity. He hung

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out with the Duke of Wellington and Disraeli.

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People wanted to meet the grand old man. of europe

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but he was yesterday's man he was a museum piece

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he eventually returned to vienna in 1851 once

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the revolutions were crushed and the young emperor

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franz joseph was in charge but he didn't get

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his job back no he was a living monument He gave

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advice, he wrote memos, but they often ignored

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him. The world had changed. Real politic was

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shifting towards blood and iron, towards Bismarck,

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not Metternich's congresses. He died in 1859

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at the age of 86, the last of his generation.

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He outlived Napoleon, he outlived the Tsar, he

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outlived his rivals. He saw the world born in

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the French Revolution and he lived to see the

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Industrial Age. So let's go back to our mission.

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How do we assess Clemens von Metternich now that

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we've looked at the whole picture? It depends

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entirely on what you value. If you value liberty,

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national self -determination, democracy and the

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freedom of the press, he is the villain. Plain

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and simple. He held back progress. He created

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a police state. He jailed intellectuals. A .J

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.P. Taylor called him boring and a stumbling

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block. And from a liberal perspective, he was.

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And some argue. That by delaying reform, he just

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made the inevitable explosion worse. Like if

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you seal the lid on the pressure cooker, eventually

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it blows up harder, maybe leading to the carnage

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of World War I. If he had allowed slow reform,

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maybe Europe would have evolved peacefully. That's

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a very valid criticism. He froze the pipes and

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eventually they burst. But look at the other

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side. He gave Europe the age of Metternich. Decades

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of peace. He prevented a major war. He saved

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lives. He took a week. bankrupt Austria and kept

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it as a great power for 30 years purely through

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diplomatic skill. There's this smokescreen theory,

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right? Yes, and I think this is the most compelling

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argument for his genius. The idea is that Metternich

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knew Austria was weak. He knew the army was underfunded

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and the state was fragile. He knew he couldn't

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win a fight, so he used diplomacy, balls, treaties,

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bluffs, and pageantry as smokescreen to hide

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the cracks. He faked it for 30 years. He made

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Europe believe Austria was strong so no one attacked.

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He kept the wolves at bay with nothing but words

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and personality. It is impressive, even if you

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hate his politics. It's a high wire act that

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lasted three decades. And it raises that final

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provocative question for us today. Metternich

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believed that freedom without order is chaos.

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We live in a world now that is struggling with

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information overload, political polarization

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and rapid change. We see disruption everywhere.

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We do. We value disruption. But we also fear

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the chaos it brings. Exactly. Was he entirely

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wrong to fear the masses? Was he wrong to prioritize

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stability over everything else? Or was he just

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a man who saw the abyss of the French Revolution

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and decided he would do anything to stop the

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world from falling into it again? It's the eternal

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tradeoff. The cost of peace versus the cost of

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liberty. Metternich made his choice. And he forced

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Europe to live with it for a generation. A fascinating

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deep dive into a man who is anything but boring.

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Thanks for helping us unpack The Coachman of

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Europe. Always a pleasure. And to our listeners,

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thanks for tuning in. See you next time.
