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Welcome back to the Deep Dive. We are so glad

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you're here because today we are looking at a

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figure who is, and I mean this quite literally,

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everywhere in Mexico. Everywhere. If you have

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been to Mexico, you have definitely handled his

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face. He is on the 20 peso note. He is on the

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500 peso note. You might have flown into an airport

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named after him in Mexico City. You could have

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walked down a street named after him. And, you

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know, not just in Mexico either. There are statues

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of him in Chicago, in Washington, D .C. I think

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there's even a street named after him in New

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Delhi, India. There's even a species of snake

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named in his honor. It is genuinely hard to find

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a corner of the Mexican map or really Latin American

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history that doesn't bear the mark of Benito

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Juarez. Exactly. But the thing is, when someone

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becomes that ubiquitous, when they become like

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a marble statue or just a face on a crumply bill

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in your pocket. Yeah. We tend to forget the actual

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human story underneath. Right. We forget there

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was a person there. And in this case, the story

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is almost impossible to believe. I mean, if you

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pitch this as a movie script, Hollywood would

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probably tell you it's just too unrealistic.

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It really, really defies the logic of the time

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period. We are talking about a monolingual Zapotec

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shepherd boy from a tiny village of maybe 200

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people who didn't speak a word of Spanish until

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he was 12 years old. And he somehow rises to

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become the president of Mexico, defeats a European

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empire and completely redefines his nation's

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identity. It's a trajectory that, frankly, shouldn't

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have been possible in the 19th century. If you

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look at the caste system, the economic structures,

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the racial hierarchies of the time. Everything.

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Everything was designed to keep a person like

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Benito Juarez in that village forever. And today

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we are going to look at the sources, you know,

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extensive biographical records, historical accounts

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of the Reform War and the French. intervention

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to try and understand how on earth he did it.

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So the mission today is to move past the statue.

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We want to understand the man who famously said,

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among individuals as among nations, respect for

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the rights of others is peace. We're going to

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unpack his impossible rise, his radical reforms,

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and the brutal wars he fought to defend the Constitution.

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Okay, so let's start at the very beginning. Where

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does a story like this even start? It starts

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in the mountains of Oaxaca, specifically in a

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village called San Pablo, Guelito. And when we

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say humble beginnings, we really need to emphasize

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what that meant in 1806. Right. This wasn't a

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town. No, not at all. This was a settlement of

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maybe 200 people, tops, mostly living in straw

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and mud huts. It was incredibly isolated. It

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was located on the edge of a mountain pond known

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as La Laguna Encantada, the Enchanted Pond. That

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sounds incredibly picturesque, almost like something

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out of a fable. The Enchanted Pond. It does sound

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lovely, but the reality was just incredibly harsh.

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This was subsistence living. Benito Juarez was

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born there on March 21st, 1806, to Zapotec peasant

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parents, Marcelino Juarez and Brigida Garcia.

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And he described his parents later in his own

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writings as, I think, Indians from the primitive

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race of the country. He did. But the tragedy

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is that he barely knew them. They both died when

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he was just three years old. So he's an orphan

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in a remote village almost immediately. That

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is, that's a rough start. It gets rougher. His

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grandparents took him in for a bit, but they

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died shortly after that. So he was eventually

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raised by an uncle, Bernardino Juarez. And his

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life was defined entirely by labor. There was

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no school, no real playtime. He worked in the

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cornfields and he worked as a shepherd until

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he was 12. And this is the part, the crucial

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detail that just sets the stakes for this whole

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story. Go on. Up until the age of 12, Bernardino

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Juarez was illiterate. And he could not speak

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Spanish. He only knew Zapotec. That's the fact

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that always floors me. Me too. 12 years old.

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In 1818, if you are a 12 -year -old indigenous

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boy in the mountains who doesn't speak the colonial

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language, your life path is usually set in stone.

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Absolutely. You are going to live and die in

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that village. So what was the catalyst? How do

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you get from shepherding in the mountains to

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the state capital? Well, history often pivots

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on a mix of necessity and luck. There is a famous

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legend, you'll probably hear it if you take a

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tour in Mexico, that he lost a sheep and ran

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away because he was afraid his uncle would beat

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him. The lost sheep theory. Right. But the more

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likely driver, based on the historical records,

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was actually his sister. She had already moved

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to Oaxaca City to work as a cook. In 1818, Juarez

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left the village to find her. He literally walked

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out of the mountains. He did. It's about a 40

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-mile trek over rough terrain. He walked into

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the city with the goal of attending school. He

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found his sister, and she was working in the

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household of a wealthy family, the Mazas. And

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this is where that luck part comes in, right?

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He gets a job there. He does. He becomes a domestic

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servant. He's tending the animals, cleaning.

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But he also finds a patron. He started working

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for a man named Antonio Salenueva. Okay. Who

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is he? Salenueva was a bookbinder and a lay Franciscan.

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And he saw something in this young boy intelligence,

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a spark, some kind of potential, and he decided

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to sponsor him. So the classic patron -protege

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dynamic. Yeah. But given that Solon Reva was

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a lay Franciscan, I mean, very religious man,

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you have to assume the path he laid out for Juarez

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wasn't president of the republic. Oh, definitely

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not. It was the priesthood. Of course. That was

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the only real ladder available back then. If

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you were poor and wanted an education in Mexico

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in the 1820s, you joined the church. So Juarez

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entered the seminary in 1821. And note the timing

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on that. That is the same year Mexico finally

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wins its independence from Spain. A great point.

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The country is being born just as Juarez is beginning

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his formal education. He studied theology for

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six years. He learned Latin. He learned philosophy.

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But, and this is the first major pivot in his

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life, he realized he did not want to be a priest.

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Which, in 1820s, Mexico was a huge decision.

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Walking away from the church was walking away

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from guaranteed stability, right? It was. He

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wrote later that he felt a cruel distaste for

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theological studies. But luckily for him, the

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world was changing. The state legislature in

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Oaxaca had founded a new institution in 1826

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called the Institute of Arts and Sciences. A

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secular institution. Exactly. The conservatives

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at the time called it a house of prostitution

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for the mind because it taught things like science

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and law without a religious filter. Juarez transferred

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there in 1827 to study law. So this was the moment

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he stepped out of the religious sphere and into

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the secular political world. Precisely. By 1834,

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he was a graduated lawyer admitted to the bar.

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OK, so he is a lawyer now. But let's just pause

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and contextualize this. An indigenous Zapotec

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man practicing law in the 1830s. He isn't just

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taking on corporate contracts, I assume. No,

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not at all. He goes back to his roots almost

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immediately. And this early career period is

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so vital for understanding his later politics.

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What did he do? One of his first major actions

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as a lawyer was representing indigenous villagers

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from Loxicha. They were denouncing a priest who

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they accused of abuses, things like charging

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excessive fees for masses and baptisms. That

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is an incredibly bold move. A young indigenous

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lawyer challenging the church in the 1830s. Very

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bold. And it had immediate consequences. Juarez

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didn't win. In fact, he was thrown into jail

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along with the community members he was representing.

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Wait, he was the lawyer and they threw him in

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jail? Yes, for inciting the people. He later

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wrote that this experience, seeing the collusion

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between the church and the state authorities,

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it strengthened his resolve. He realized that

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the game was rigged. He wanted to destroy what

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he called the pernicious power of the privileged

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classes. So that jail cell was basically the

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incubator. For his entire political philosophy.

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He saw firsthand that the playing field wasn't

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just uneven. It was two different fields entirely.

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Exactly. He realized that as long as the church

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and the military had their own special courts

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and privileges, what were called fueros, there

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could be no equality before the law. But despite

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that setback, his career continued to rise. He

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became a judge. And then in 1843, he made a very

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significant match in his personal life. He married

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Margarita Maza. Maza, wait, let's connect the

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dots here. That's the family his sister worked

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for, the house where he was a servant. The very

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same. She was the adoptive daughter of his sister's

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patron. Margarita was 20 years younger than him

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and part of Oaxaca's upper class European descended

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society. So for an indigenous man, a former fervent

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in that very household, to marry the daughter

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of the family was a massive social leap. It just

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defied all the unwritten rules of the caste system.

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It sounds like something out of a novel. Did

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the family object? The record suggests it was

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accepted, though it was certainly viewed as unusual

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by society at large. Margarita famously said

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of him, he is very homely, but very good. Oh,

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I love that. And it turned out to be a partnership

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of incredible strength. She wasn't just some

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trophy wife. She would become a pillar for him

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during the incredibly difficult years ahead,

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managing the family while he was in exile or

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fighting wars. So he has the education, the career,

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and now the social standing. And eventually this

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path takes him to the governor's palace in Oaxaca

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in 1847. Yes. And his time as governor is really

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the proof of concept for his administrative ability.

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He didn't just give speeches. He took over a

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state with chaotic finances. He balanced the

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budget. He built roads and schools. Education

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was always his top priority. Always. And he created

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a civil and penal code. Oaxaca became known as

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a model state. He proved that a civilian secular

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government could actually work and work efficiently.

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But in 19th century Mexico, you couldn't just

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be a good administrator and live happily ever

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after. The national politics were just so volatile.

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You had this internal struggle between the liberals

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and the conservatives. We really need to break

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this down for the listener because these terms

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mean something very specific in this context.

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Right. We shouldn't map modern American or European

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politics onto this. Not at all. To simplify it,

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liberals, like Juarez, wanted a secular state.

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They looked to the United States and France for

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inspiration. They wanted individual rights, capitalism,

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and equality before the law. And the conservatives.

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They generally wanted to maintain the old Spanish

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colonial hierarchy. They believed that the Catholic

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Church should be the supreme authority in education

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and spiritual life, and that the military should

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enforce order. Basically, they believed Mexico

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was too chaotic for democracy and needed a strong

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hand. So it's a battle between the past and the

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future, essentially. And Juarez was firmly on

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the liberal side. which meant that when the conservatives,

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specifically the dictator Santa Ana, came back

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into power in 1853, Juarez was in deep trouble.

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Big trouble. Santa Ana was the perennial bad

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penny of Mexican history. He just kept turning

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up. And when he returned in 1853, he had not

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forgotten that Juarez had denied him refuge in

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Oaxaca years earlier. Santa Ana was petty. Very.

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He had Juarez arrested, confined in the fortress

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of San Juan de Ulua, a truly horrific dungeon,

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and eventually exiled. Where did he go? Paris?

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London? New Orleans. New Orleans. I love this

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detail. The future president of Mexico living

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in the American South in the 1850s. What on earth

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was he doing there? He was rolling cigars. He

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found a job in a tobacco factory. He lived in

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exile for about 18 months, and it was not glamorous.

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He was struggling to make ends meet, living in

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cheap boarding houses. And his wife Margarita

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stayed in Mexico. She did. She looked after their

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children and sent him whatever funds she could

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scrape together. But New Orleans wasn't just

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a place to hide. It became a meeting ground.

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He met other radical exiles there, like Melchor

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Ocampo. So you have these brilliant Mexican minds

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sitting in New Orleans, hands covered in tobacco

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leaf, plotting the future of their country. Exactly.

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It was an ideological pressure cooker. They were

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refining the ideas that would become La Reforma.

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They were asking, why is Mexico failing? And

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their answer was... Because we are still a colony

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in every sing but name. The church owns half

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the land. The army is above the law. We need

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to break the system. And when the dictatorship

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of Santa Ana was finally ousted by the plan of

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Ayutthaya in 1855, Juarez returned to Mexico.

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He returned not just as a lawyer, but as a man

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with a mission. And he didn't waste any time.

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He became the minister of justice. And this is

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where we get the first of the big reform laws,

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right? The Lake Waters. Yes. The Lee Waters was

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revolutionary. It goes right back to his time

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in that jail cell. It abolished the Fueros, those

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special privileges for the clergy and the military

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regarding civil crimes. So all citizens were

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equal before civil law. That was the idea. If

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a priest committed a civil crime, like theft

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or fraud, he would face a civil judge, not a

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church court. It was a direct attack on the colonial

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structure. It stripped the state within a state

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of its legal armor. And then came the Ley Lerdo.

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Right. The Ley Lerdo was an economic reform.

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It forced the sale of church and communal lands.

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The idea was to stimulate the economy by creating

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a class of small property owners. Basically,

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trying to create a middle class similar to what

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the liberals saw in the United States. But this

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one backfired a bit, didn't it? This is a nuance

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we really need to get into. It did. And it's

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a tragic part of the story. The law didn't just

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target the church. It targeted all corporate

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loan holdings. And in the legal language of the

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time, indigenous communal lands, the ejidos,

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were considered corporate holdings. Oh, no. Yeah.

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So the law forced indigenous villages to break

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up their communal land and sell it to individuals.

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The liberals thought they were freeing the land

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for individual ownership. But in practice, wealthy

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speculators bought up most of the land. So the

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unintended consequence was that. Many indigenous

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communities lost the territories that had sustained

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them for centuries. Exactly. It paved the way

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for the massive haciendas that would later be

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a cause of the Mexican Revolution in 1910. It

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is a profound irony that the first indigenous

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president oversaw a law that really hurt indigenous

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land tenure, even if that wasn't his intention.

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It's a very complex legacy. But these laws were

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all codified into the Constitution of 1857. This

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was the document that was supposed to modernize

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Mexico. Religious freedom, civil rights. But

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the conservatives were not just going to accept

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this lying down. Not at all. The backlash was

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massive. You have to understand, the church told

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people that if they swore allegiance to this

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Constitution, they were going to hell. Literally.

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The pope condemned it. The country was on the

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brink of civil war. And the moderate president

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at the time, Ignacio Comanford, He got cold feet.

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He looked at the chaos and thought, we went too

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fast. He staged a self -coup, basically. He tried

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to suspend the very constitution he had sworn

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to uphold. And he imprisoned his own cabinet,

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including Juarez, who was then the chief justice

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of the Supreme Court. Talk about a toxic workplace.

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The president arrests his own team. But then

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Cominfor realized he had unleashed a monster

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he couldn't control. He realized. The conservatives

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didn't want him. They wanted a full rollback

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of all the reforms. And the liberals were in

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revolt against his betrayal. So in a moment of

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panic, Commonfort released Juarez from prison

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and then fled the country. And here is where

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the legal machinery clicks into place. According

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to the Constitution of 1857, who succeeds the

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president if he resigns? The chief justice of

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the Supreme Court. Benito Juarez. Benito Juarez.

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So suddenly, this cigar -rolling lawyer from

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Oaxaca is the legitimate president of Mexico.

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But he doesn't have a capital. He doesn't have

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an army. And the conservatives hold Mexico City.

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And that sets the stage for the War of the Reform

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or the Three Years War, a brutal civil war. Juarez

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and his cabinet were essentially a government

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on the run, nomads. They had to flee to Guanajuato,

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then to Guadalajara. And it was in Guadalajara

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where we get one of the most cinematic moments

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in Mexican history. If you're visualizing this,

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picture a chaotic palace, smoke shouting. This

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is... The brave men do not assassinate moment.

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Let's unpack that. It is an incredible scene.

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So Juarez was in the government palace in Guadalajara.

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A garrison of soldiers mutinied. They switched

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sides to the conservatives. They stormed the

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room and took Juarez and his minister's prisoner.

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The situation was chaotic and the commander of

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the mutineers, a Colonel Landa, ordered the prisoners

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to be shot. So Juarez is standing there facing

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a firing squad. The rifles are raised. This is

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it. It should have been. The soldiers raised

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their rifles. They were aiming at his chest.

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But then the liberal poet and minister, Guillermo

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Prieto, who was in the room with him, he jumped

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in front of Juarez. He physically put his body

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between the president and the guns. Yes. And

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he shouted at the soldiers, brave men do not

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assassinate. Los valientes no asesinen. He just

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started speechifying to them about their duty

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as patriots. and it worked it worked the soldiers

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hesitated maybe they were moved by the courage

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or maybe just confused by the sudden poetry slam

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in the middle of a mutiny but they lowered their

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weapons wow juarez was saved and eventually they

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were allowed to leave the city it just gives

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you chills if those soldiers had pulled the trigger

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modern mexico would look completely different

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absolutely Juarez survived, but they had to keep

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moving. They eventually made their way to Veracruz,

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the port city on the Gulf Coast. And this was

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crucial because holding the port meant they could

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collect customs revenue taxes on trade, which

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gave them the money they needed to fund the war.

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And while he was holed up in Veracruz, looking

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out at the ocean, Juarez didn't moderate his

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position. He actually doubled down, didn't he?

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He did. He decided that there was no going back.

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This is when the laws of reform became truly

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radical. In 1859, from Veracruz, he decreed the

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nationalization of all church property. Not just

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a forced sale nationalization. Total nationalization.

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He established civil marriage and the civil registry

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of births and deaths. He secularized the cemeteries.

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Basically, he stripped the church of its role

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as the gatekeeper of life and death. Exactly.

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Before this, the church recorded your birth,

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married you, and buried you. If you weren't a

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Catholic, you legally didn't exist and couldn't

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be buried in a proper cemetery. Juarez said,

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no, the state does that. The state records your

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existence. It was a complete separation of church

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and state. Now, we do have to address a controversial

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moment from this period in Veracruz, the McLean

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-Ocampo Treaty. This is often used by Juarez's

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critics to say he was willing to sell out the

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country to the Americans. What was the deal there?

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It's a very sensitive topic. You have to remember

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Juarez was desperate. The conservatives were

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winning on the battlefield and he needed U .S.

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recognition and funds. So his government negotiated

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a treaty that would have granted the United States

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perpetual transit rights across the Isthmus of

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Tehuantepec. A route between the Atlantic and

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Pacific Oceans. Right. And crucially, the right

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to intervene militarily to protect that transit.

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That sounds huge. perpetual transit rights. That

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is a massive concession of sovereignty. It was.

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It shows just how desperate the situation was.

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He was willing to risk U .S. influence to defeat

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the conservatives. However, and this is the key

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historical footnote, the treaty was never ratified.

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The U .S. Senate rejected it. Why would the U

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.S. Senate reject that deal? Because the U .S.

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was about to have its own civil war. The northern

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senators did not want to give the South, the

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slave states, more territory or influence in

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Mexico. So the treaty died. But it remains a

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point of debate about how far Juarez was willing

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to go. But in the end, the liberals turned the

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tide. They won on the battlefield. And in January

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1861, Juarez reentered Mexico City. The war was

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over. The Constitution was safe. Time to relax.

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Right, right. If only. The country was in ruins.

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The treasury was completely empty. The infrastructure

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was destroyed. And this financial ruin led directly

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to the next even greater crisis. The debt crisis.

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Yes. In July 1861, Juarez suspended payments

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on all foreign debt for two years. He just said,

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we can't pay right now. We need to eat. We need

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to rebuild. And the European powers, Britain,

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Spain, and France did not take that well. No.

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They signed the Convention of London and sent

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fleets to Veracruz to demand payment. It was

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essentially a debt collection agency with battleships.

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But Britain and Spain eventually negotiated.

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They did. Juarez's diplomats convinced them that

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Mexico would pay eventually. They realized Mexico

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was broke and that whore wasn't worth it. So

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they went home. But France, France had other

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ideas. Enter Napoleon III. Napoleon III saw a

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huge opportunity. He didn't just want his money

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back. The United States was distracted by its

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own civil war, so they couldn't enforce the Monroe

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Doctrine. He had these grand imperial ambitions.

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He wanted to establish a monarchy in Mexico that

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would serve as a client state and a buffer against

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U .S. expansion. He used the debt as a pretext

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to launch a full -scale invasion. And this brings

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us to the famous Cinco de Mayo. Right. May 5th,

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1862. The French army, considered the best in

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the world at the time battle, hardened, well

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-equipped to march on the city of Puebla. They

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expected an easy walkover. They literally brought

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their dress uniforms to wear for the parade in

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Mexico City. They did. But the Mexican forces

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under General Zaragoza repelled them. It was

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a stunning victory. It's so important to clarify,

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though, Cinco de Mayo didn't win the war. wasn't

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the end. No, not at all. It delayed the French

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advance by about a year. But the morale boost

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was incalculable. It showed that the Republic

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could fight. It created this national myth of

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resistance. But the French were serious. Very.

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Napoleon sent reinforcements, 30 ,000 troops.

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They eventually took Puebla. And by 1863, they

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took Mexico City. So Juarez is on the run. Again.

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Again. But this time, the enemy isn't just a

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domestic political party. It's a foreign superpower

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backed by Mexican conservatives. And they brought

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in an emperor. Maximilian of Habsburg. Yes. A

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European prince, the brother of the Austrian

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emperor Franz Josef. The Mexican conservatives

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went to Europe and pitched him the throne. They

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told him the people of Mexico were clamoring

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for a savior. And he believed them. He did. He

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was a bit of a romantic, maybe a bit deluded.

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He arrived in 1864 with his wife Charlotte, or

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Carlotta. They set up court in Chapultepec Castle.

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So while Maximilian was playing emperor, organizing

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balls, and writing etiquette manuals, what was

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hard as doing? This is the period of the Wandering

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Republic. This is really the core of the Juarez

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legend. He refused to surrender. He refused to

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leave the country. He moved his government north,

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city by city, San Luis Potosi, Saltillo, Monterey,

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Chihuahua. I have read descriptions of this time

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where the entire government of Mexico was essentially

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contained in a black carriage. Juarez carrying

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the National Archives, the seal of the nation,

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just moving through the desert dust. And that

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image is so powerful because it was true. He

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argued that the republic wasn't a place. It was

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the law. It was the Constitution. As long as

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he, the constitutional president, was on Mexican

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soil, the republic lived. He eventually ended

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up in Paso del Norte, right on the border with

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the U .S., a place we now call Ciudad Juarez.

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He was literally at the edge of the map. He couldn't

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go any further north without leaving the country,

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and he was facing internal threats, too. Being

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on the run creates power vacuums. Right. One

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of his own generals, Gonzales Ortega, argued

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that Juarez's term had technically expired during

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the war and that he should step down. And technically

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it had. But Juarez used emergency powers to extend

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his own presidency. He argued, quite rationally,

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that you can't hold an election when half the

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country is occupied by a foreign army. He said,

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I will hold the office until we can have a vote.

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It was controversial. Some called it dictatorial.

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But he held the line. He kept the resistance

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united under his command. So what turned the

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tide? How does a government in a carriage defeat

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an empire backed by France? Geopolitics shifted

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again. In 1865, the U .S. Civil War ended. The

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Union won. And suddenly... the United States

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could look south again. And they were not happy

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about a French puppet state on their border.

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Not at all. They began supplying arms to Juarez

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and massing troops on the Rio Grande. They cited

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the Monroe Doctrine. No European empires in the

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Americas. That puts massive pressure on Napoleon.

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Huge pressure. And Napoleon was also facing the

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rise of pressure back in Europe. He needed his

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troops back home, so he cut his losses. He began

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withdrawing French troops in 1866. Maximilian

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was left alone. And Maximilian had a chance to

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leave, didn't he? He did. The French urged him

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to abdicate. But he felt the sense of honor,

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a delusion perhaps, that he should stay and share

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the fate of his supporters. And he also made

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a fatal mistake back in 1865. He signed the Black

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Decree. What was that? It was a decree that ordered

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the summary execution within 24 hours of anyone

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found with arms fighting for the Republic. It

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treated the Republican soldiers not as prisoners

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of war, but as bandits. So thousands were shot

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under this order. Thousands. And that enraged

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the Republicans and made the war deeply personal.

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It meant that when the tables turned, there would

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be no mercy. Republican forces besieged Maximilian

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at Querétaro. He was captured in May 1867. And

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the world watched this. European monarchs, Victor

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Hugo, the Pope, they all wrote to Juarez pleading

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for Maximilian's life. He's a prince. Spare him.

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Just exile him. But Juarez was immovable. Utterly.

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And this is so important. He wasn't killing Maximilian

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out of personal spite. He believed he needed

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to send a message that would echo through history.

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He said, I must demonstrate that Mexico is a

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sovereign nation. Any foreigner who tries to

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conquer it will pay with their life. He wanted

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to end the cycle of foreign interventions once

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and for all. So on June 19, 1867, Maximilian

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and his top generals were executed by a firing

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squad on the Hill of Bells. A harsh justice,

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but it effectively ended the era of European

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intervention in Mexico. In July 1867, Juarez

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returned to Mexico City. The republic was restored.

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This period is called the Restored Republic.

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Juarez is back in the National Palace. But the

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story doesn't end with a happily ever after montage.

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The last few years were actually quite difficult,

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weren't they? They were. There's a saying that

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you campaign in poetry, but you govern in prose.

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And the prose was very dry and very difficult.

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Governing is harder than fighting. Much harder.

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Juarez had to reconstruct a shattered nation.

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He focused heavily on agitation. He appointed

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a man named Gabino Bereda to reform the school

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system based on positivist ideals, science, and

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logic over religious dogma. He tried to stabilize

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the economy. He reduced the size of the army.

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Which made a lot of soldiers angry. Very angry.

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And his personal life took a massive hit. Right.

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Margarita Maza, his partner through all the exile

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and war, died of cancer in January 1871. It was

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a devastating blow to him. They had already lost

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five of their children young. And now he lost

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her. He was a man who had won the war but was

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losing his personal world. And politically, the

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hero shine started to wear off. It happens to

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all long -serving leaders. He ran for re -election

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in 1867, which was expected. But then he ran

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again in 1871. By then, he had been in power

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either as president or de facto leader for over

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a decade. And many liberals, including his old

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general, Porfirio Diaz, felt he was becoming

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autocratic. Right. The slogan of the liberals,

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the very slogan they used against Santa Ana,

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had been, Effective suffrage, no re -election.

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And here was Juarez re -electing himself. Exactly.

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Porfirio Diaz actually launched a revolt, the

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Plan de la Noria, accusing Juarez of holding

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onto power indefinitely. And it is a profound

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irony because Diaz would later become a dictator

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who stayed in power for 30 years. But at that

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moment, in 1871, he was the one calling Juarez

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a tyrant. He was. Juarez suppressed the revolt,

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but his health was failing. Yeah. On July 18,

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1872, Benito Juarez died of a heart attack in

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the National Palace. And there's this moving

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detail that he was working until the very end.

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He had chest pains, but he was still reading

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dispatches, trying to manage the country. A quiet

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end to a truly thunderous life. He was given

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a state funeral, and his legacy was almost immediately

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cemented. Even his rival, Porfirio Diaz, eventually

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helped build the Juarez myth to legitimize his

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own rule. He became the Benemerito de las Americas,

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the distinguished of the Americas. So when we

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look back at this incredible arc from the ship

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pasture in Guadalupe to the presidency, what

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is the key takeaway? Why does he still matter

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so much today? I think it's the triumph of the

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concept of the rule of law over the rule of men.

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Before Juarez, Mexico was run by carios, by charismatic

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generals on horseback, by the church. It was

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about personal power. Juarez wasn't a military

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leader. He was a civilian lawyer in a black suit.

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Exactly. He believed that the law, the Constitution,

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was the only thing that could make a nation out

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of a chaotic collection of regions and classes.

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He proved that the Mexican state could exist

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independently of the church and independently

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of Europe. He forced the world to take Mexico

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seriously as a sovereign entity. Precisely. And

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he proved that an indigenous man could lead that

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nation, shattering the colonial caste system

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that had said otherwise for 300 years. embodies

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the idea that the nation belongs to its citizens,

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not to a crown or a cross. But there is that

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lingering question from his later years, isn't

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there? That friction. There is. And it raises

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a really provocative thought. When does the necessary

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man become an obstacle to the democracy he saved?

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Juarez saved the Constitution by keeping a tight

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grip on power during the war, but he struggled

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to let go of that grip when the peace came. It's

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a tension that runs through all of political

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history. knowing when the battle is over and

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when it's time to step aside. It really is. That

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is a thought worth holding on to. Next time you

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look at a 20 -peso bill, don't just see the face.

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See the cigar maker in New Orleans, the prisoner

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facing the firing squad in Guadalajara, and the

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man in the black carriage refusing to surrender

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a republic. Thanks for listening to this deep

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dive into Benio Juarez.
